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The Marvel Cinematic universe is awesome.

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Antman
Captain America 3
2012-08-08 21:08:00

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RockSauron
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I hope this gets adapted for Thor 2.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m84m8l5sj81qhr4j5o1_500.png
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m84m8l5sj81qhr4j5o2_500.png
2012-08-11 09:06:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Further proof that peanuts are the solution to all of life's woes.2012-08-11 16:33:00

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RockSauron
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http://www.examiner.com/article/s-h-i-e-l-d-coming-to-abc-television

Joss Whedon's new show featuring Shield has jsut been greenlighted.
2012-08-29 19:28:00

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RockSauron
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Gardians of the Galaxy is what I want to see the most. My favorites on the team are Star-Lord, Drax the Destroyer, and Rocket Raccoon. Ant-Man looks ok, but I'm not much of a big fan. Captain America: The Winter Soldier is what I want to see a lot too.2012-08-29 22:25:00

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amoney1999
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Yeah, Captian America: The Winter Soldier looks good, but I think the best, (besides The Avengers 2), is going to be Iron Man three. I read something about some new kind of armor that he'll have that becomes a part of him or something. If I find more on this I'll post it.2012-08-30 01:15:00

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gamerguy5432
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Yeah, Captian America: The Winter Soldier looks good, but I think the best, (besides The Avengers 2), is going to be Iron Man three. I read something about some new kind of armor that he'll have that becomes a part of him or something. If I find more on this I'll post it.

Well, the film is based off of the awesome Iron Man story, Extremis, and I remember after taking the Extremis virus that he could make the suit thing he wears before putting on his armor on his skin. He also levitates is armor pieces onto his body with his mind, and also called someone's phone through his mind (like how he does in his suit), and a new suit design (which the movie suit is based off of). Also, Guy Pearce, Ben Kingsley, and Rebecca Hall are gonna be in this.
2012-08-30 02:30:00

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amoney1999
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Necro because I want to!

So there were rumors of Phase 3 including a movie based off Planet Hulk, but Joss Whedon has deconfirmed that. Unless he's lying.

But there will be Antman and Dr Strange movies in Phase 3.

Also, Iron Man 3 is coming out in two months. So yay!
2013-03-01 02:56:00

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RockSauron
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I'm not into the entire Marvel universe, but I do like it more than DC. I was really in it for Spidey, but was disappointed that they rebooted it, I still want Spiderman 4...2013-03-04 18:05:00

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JamesDNaux
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Well, Spiderman is a completely different movie not in this universe, so yeah... OFF OPIC. BAN HAMMAH! BAN! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!2013-03-04 18:12:00

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RockSauron
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http://www.examiner.com/article/s-h-i-e-l-d-coming-to-abc-television

Joss Whedon's new show featuring Shield has jsut been greenlighted.

It's good to know Fox isn't the company in charge of it. Then again, Joss Whedon would need to be pretty stupid to trust them with this after they cancelled Firefly and Dollhouse.
2013-03-05 10:43:00

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SnipySev
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Well, Spiderman is a completely different movie not in this universe, so yeah... OFF OPIC. BAN HAMMAH! BAN! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

What are you smoking? Spiderman IS Marvel, he's like their mascot.
2013-03-05 16:46:00

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JamesDNaux
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What are you smoking? Spiderman IS Marvel, he's like their mascot.

... This thread is for the MArvel Cinematic Universe, a series of connected movies all taking place in the same universe. Spiderman does not take place in this universe due to being owned by Sony, and thus is not within the boundries of this thread.

Please, inform yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe

Speaking of which, new Iron Man 3 trailer in... ten minutes. Huzzah!

And here it is!


http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/iron-man-3/trailers/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html
2013-03-05 16:50:00

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RockSauron
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... This thread is for the MArvel Cinematic Universe, a series of connected movies all taking place in the same universe. Spiderman does not take place in this universe due to being owned by Sony, and thus is not within the boundries of this thread.



They are all still Marvel, and just because different film studios own the rights to make movies with the characters, does not make me off topic. It isn't something new that differing film studios work together on a project, hell, look at "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" Sony was actually working on getting Spidey in on the action, and despite the fact that he hasn't appeared in the "Cinematic Universe" doesn't mean that he isn't involved, he has worked with the Avengers in the comics before. You shouldn't discount him because he hasn't appeared yet, you never know what kind of deal they might strike up to have him appear in whatever crossover film comes next.
2013-03-05 17:21:00

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JamesDNaux
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They are all still Marvel, and just because different film studios own the rights to make movies with the characters, does not make me off topic. It isn't something new that differing film studios work together on a project, hell, look at "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" Sony was actually working on getting Spidey in on the action, and despite the fact that he hasn't appeared in the "Cinematic Universe" doesn't mean that he isn't involved, he has worked with the Avengers in the comics before. You shouldn't discount him because he hasn't appeared yet, you never know what kind of deal they might strike up to have him appear in whatever crossover film comes next.

... No. This topic is about the movies that make one one single universe. Your Spiderman movies do not take place in that universe, and are hence off topic. Go make another topic if you want to talk about them >_>
2013-03-05 17:28:00

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RockSauron
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... No. This topic is about the movies that make one one single universe. Your Spiderman movies do not take place in that universe, and are hence off topic. Go make another topic if you want to talk about them >_>

If you were to so much as read through the article in the link you provided me...


Sony Pictures and Disney reached an agreement to incorporate OsCorp Tower from the The Amazing Spider-Man into the climax of The Avengers, but the idea was eventually dropped because The Avengers's Manhattan skyline had already been rendered before the OsCorp building design had been completed.

Meaning that the Spiderman universe was indeed set to cross over with the rest of them, which it does anyway, since it's Marvel. While we're at it, in turn, Disney owns Marvel, and Star Wars to top off that, we might as well see a cross over between Mickey Mouse, Darth Vader, and Deadpool for all it matters.
2013-03-05 17:33:00

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JamesDNaux
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If you were to so much as read through the article in the link you provided me...



Meaning that the Spiderman universe was indeed set to cross over with the rest of them, which it does anyway, since it's Marvel. While we're at it, in turn, Disney owns Marvel, and Star Wars to top off that, we might as well see a cross over between Mickey Mouse, Darth Vader, and Deadpool for all it matters.

... Saying that they MIGHT be referenced in the future DOESN'T MEAN they are in the same universe.

they aren't in the same universe.

therefore, they are off topic.

therefore, don't talk about them in a thread dedicated to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
2013-03-05 17:36:00

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RockSauron
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... Saying that they MIGHT be referenced in the future DOESN'T MEAN they are in the same universe.

they aren't in the same universe.

therefore, they are off topic.

therefore, don't talk about them in a thread dedicated to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Fair enough. If a simple conversation about such a topic, whether Spidey is involved or not, is so "off-topic" as you claim, even though in turn I am also speaking of the Avengers, then I will leave well enough alone. I don't know what your prejudice against Spiderman is, but I will leave you to your own discussions, I do not wish to rise this from a simple debate to an argument, where we would really be getting off-topic.
2013-03-05 17:43:00

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JamesDNaux
Posts: 757


No, we can talk about the possibility of Spiderman joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe. however, your original post:


I'm not into the entire Marvel universe, but I do like it more than DC. I was really in it for Spidey, but was disappointed that they rebooted it, I still want Spiderman 4...

... implies you were talking about continuing the Sam Raimi trilogy instead of reformatting it to fit into this new universe. therefore, you were talking about Spiderman as an independent movie, which is outside of the confines of this thread.

Concerning Spiderman as part of the Cinematic Universe, I would greatly love him to be part. the problem would be that I like the Cinematic Universe because it's all interconnected. So the new reboot/ the old trilogy don't have the connections and plot relevance that the newer cinematic universe have, which is why I don't want them to shoehorn it into the same universe.
2013-03-05 17:51:00

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RockSauron
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No, we can talk about the possibility of Spiderman joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe. however, your original post
... implies you were talking about continuing the Sam Raimi trilogy instead of reformatting it to fit into this new universe. therefore, you were talking about Spiderman as an independent movie, which is outside of the confines of this thread.

Concerning Spiderman as part of the Cinematic Universe, I would greatly love him to be part. the problem would be that I like the Cinematic Universe because it's all interconnected. So the new reboot/ the old trilogy don't have the connections and plot relevance that the newer cinematic universe have, which is why I don't want them to shoehorn it into the same universe.

Ah, I understand completely, I certainly wasn't coming here to bash the Avengers or any such thing, and while I do prefer the original Spidey trilogy, I still think it would be possible to fit it in somehow. Though I can't know for sure, as I haven't seen the Avengers, I certainly want to though, I just haven't had the opportunity.

I also don't discount a reboot, it would be perfectly fine to do for the Avengers, contrary to my other statement, I don't hate the new "Amazing Spiderman" I just view it as Spidey in another universe, as they have many of in the comics. I am however still dissapointed that Spiderman 4 was canceled, but I know that was because of issues with the director and such.

I'd perfectly love to see a different Spidey show up in the next Avengers, I'd make it a point to watch the rest of the movies as well so I could be caught up on everything, I've only seen Iron Man 1 and the Hulk actually... And half of Captain America.
2013-03-05 18:14:00

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JamesDNaux
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O_o Yeah, you need to watch the other movies. I recommend it in the order it came out in:

Iron Man
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
Avengers

Even for someone like me who isn't a comic fan, it's pure geek fantasy
2013-03-05 18:15:00

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RockSauron
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I just haven't had the effort (or the money) to get to watching those, since I don't watch much of television/go to the movies often. I almost caught Iron Man 2 on TV but I completely forgot about it and missed it! Was a bit miffed at that, but ah well.

I know they'll probably be good movies, but I'm also not a big comic fan, I pretty much only deal with Spidey related stuff, which is why he's my favorite, the rest of Marvel just falls under the category of "Made by the same people as Spiderman" which is why I enjoy those as well. Other than Spidey, Deadpool comes in at a close second with Hulk and Iron Man coming in third and fourth respectively.
2013-03-05 18:23:00

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JamesDNaux
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Blasting this out of nowhere, since this is an acceptable enough topic to post this on, Captain America is my favourite avenger, though everybody disagrees with me. One thing people might find weird is that I'm no even an american.

Also, there's a new Iron Man 3 trailer. Let me see if I can find a link...

Edit:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVCsRkAFhbA
2013-03-05 20:16:00

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FreeAim
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Blasting this out of nowhere, since this is an acceptable enough topic to post this on, Captain America is my favourite avenger, though everybody disagrees with me. One thing people might find weird is that I'm no even an american.

Also, there's a new Iron Man 3 trailer. Let me see if I can find a link...

Too late, already posted But yeah, go ahead and actually embed it, lol I'll let you do that... THEN THANK YOU :kz:

Also, Captain America is, surprisingly, my favorite too. And I'm not a super-American, so it's kind of surprising.

I think it's because they just made him out to be a good guy out to stop bullies, and didn't have him go all "AMERICA! **** YEAH!"
2013-03-05 20:18:00

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RockSauron
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Silly me, well, there it is. Enjoy.2013-03-05 20:20:00

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FreeAim
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Also, Captain America is, surprisingly, my favorite too. And I'm not a super-American, so it's kind of surprising.

I think it's because they just made him out to be a good guy out to stop bullies, and didn't have him go all "AMERICA! **** YEAH!"

I also ended up liking both the character and the movie a lot more than I thought I would.

He's patriotic, but not in a douchey way. And the movie depicts the initial concept of Captain America as being just a piece of propaganda (which is exactly what his first comics were) but the movie itself isn't propaganda in the slightest. The doctor who gives Cap his powers is german, his love interest is British and his squad is a ragtag bunch of POV's of various nationalities.

Actually, Cap was a pretty decent guy in the main series of comics as well. He once berated some soldiers who were joking about the french always surrendering, and told them about the courage of the french people he witnessed during the war. It's a huge contrast to Ultimate Captain America (http://i.imgur.com/b04dT.jpg).
2013-04-25 21:30:00

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SnipySev
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Indeed so. Most indeedly!

Anyway, Iron Man 3 is out... in the UK. In America in one week.

And the trailer for Thor 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFZJ-3zNFg
2013-04-25 21:34:00

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RockSauron
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I'm happy they're giving Loki a relevant role. I think he was the most interesting part of the first Thor, and a great villain throughout The Avengers. Tom Hiddleston is an amazing actor.2013-04-25 22:15:00

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SnipySev
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I'm happy they're giving Loki a relevant role. I think he was the most interesting part of the first Thor, and a great villain throughout The Avengers. Tom Hiddleston is an amazing actor.

Agreed. Also, what I think made the first Thor movie a bit Meh was that Thor didn't travel across a bunch of realms and stuff (like in the comics). I'm just glad that at least he travels to other realms and stuff. And hopefully, there will be very few scenes on Earth.
2013-04-25 23:54:00

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amoney1999
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I think the MCU movies could have been a lot better individually if they didn't have to set up the premise of The Avengers so much.

You can see the difference with both Iron Man movies. The first one did its own thing, and it was excellent. But SHIELD and the Avengers Initiative was a huge subplot in Iron Man 2. As a result the movie felt less focused.

Same with Thor. Between Loki scheming, SHIELD meddling with stuff as usual and Thor trying to pull himself together, there wasn't as much cohesion as I'd liked.

But if the end result is The Avengers, it's well worth the investment. It's not as deep and human as the Dark Knight trilogy, but in terms of pure entertainment I don't think anything comes close.
2013-04-26 01:11:00

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SnipySev
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So, in recent news Wheedon teased at plans to introduce two members to the Avengers roster for the sequel and that the characters are going to be twins with the popular theory being the characters in question are going to be Avengers staples Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. (http://www.accesshollywood.com/avengers-2-joss-whedon-says-brother-sister-act-in-new-film-could-it-be-scarlet-witch-and-quicksilver_article_78640)

Given their ties to the X-Men franchise there is the question of character rights, though I imagine it could be addressed by just not mentioning their parentage at all. Although I am wondering whether it would be a good idea to introduce significant figures into a plot that had no previous cinematic screentime like the majority of the characters from the first Avengers movie.
2013-04-28 17:30:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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So, in recent news Wheedon teased at plans to introduce two members to the Avengers roster for the sequel and that the characters are going to be twins with the popular theory being the characters in question are going to be Avengers staples Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. (http://www.accesshollywood.com/avengers-2-joss-whedon-says-brother-sister-act-in-new-film-could-it-be-scarlet-witch-and-quicksilver_article_78640)

Given their ties to the X-Men franchise there is the question of character rights, though I imagine it could be addressed by just not mentioning their parentage at all. Although I am wondering whether it would be a good idea to introduce significant figures into a plot that had no previous cinematic screentime like the majority of the characters from the first Avengers movie.

That would be awesome, but it might not happen because Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are too common with X-Men.
2013-04-29 23:35:00

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amoney1999
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So, an update; Whedon confirmed that he did indeed plan to have Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in the Avengers sequel and Quicksilver at least will be making a cinematic debut but not in Avengers 2. (http://news.moviefone.com/2013/05/23/quicksilver-xmen-days-of-future-past_n_3328064.html)2013-05-24 02:53:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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The title of the Avengers sequel has been revealed as Avengers: Age of Ultron. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/20/the-avengers-age-of-ultron-avengers-2-comic-con_n_3629870.html)

FYI, Ultron is the evil robot who was created by longtime Avenger Hank Pym (a.k.a. Ant-Man, Giant-Man and a bunch of other aliases) and is considered by many to be the team's greatest enemy in the comics and will presumably be the main villain for obvious reasons. The "electric boogaloo" title is also based off a rather poorly received recent Marvel event, although Wheedon also states the actual plot of the movie will be original. This all begs the questions, if Ultron is featured then does it not follow an introduction by Hank Pym who has yet to appear in the cinematic universe? And if Hank Pym isn't featured, who creates it?
2013-07-22 03:04:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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Yeah, I am a bit surprised. Though we did get confirmation Thanos is in Guardians of the Galaxy.2013-07-22 03:13:00

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RockSauron
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And if Hank Pym isn't featured, who creates it?

Tony Stark.
2013-07-22 07:56:00

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Rabid-Coot
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I quite like the fact thanos won't be in the next film, it makes it feel like there's a tad more build up to the phase 3 movie scince we'll have had several years to tremble in fear of him by the time the fight actually goes down. I am getting a bit worried that there are so many characters starting to turn up mind, i can see this getting really confusing to follow as a series and the movie could end up spending too little time on each character.2013-07-22 12:02:00

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Smudge228
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Yeah, I was hoping they'd build him up.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/22/comic-con-whedon-says-no-hank-pym-in-avengers-2-and-different-ultron-origin

Ultron not made by Antman in the new thing, I'm imagining he's either made by Tony Stark or Thanos and is the next attempt on Thanos's part to invade Earth (he did that in Avengers 1 via Loki)
2013-07-22 15:32:00

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RockSauron
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I doubt that Thanos would make Ultron, since Ultron was originally good, but turned on his master (Hank Pym) to rule the world. Maybe Tony Stark makes him as a prototype, but then it gets a mind of it's own?2013-07-22 19:21:00

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amoney1999
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Stark's character arc seems to be concluded. He found his identity, learned how to be a team player, became more selfless, overcame his fears and insecurities... I doubt they'll resort to him for more character development.2013-07-22 20:10:00

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SnipySev
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Stark's character arc seems to be concluded. He found his identity, learned how to be a team player, became more selfless, overcame his fears and insecurities... I doubt they'll resort to him for more character development.

Makes sense. However, this is a comic book movie, and if there's one think I've learned from comics, its that finality has no place. They're not interested in telling a complete story; mark my word, they'll find a way to expand his arc until its so bloated it won't make sense any more.

Just the way DC/ Marvel comics are.
2013-07-22 20:14:00

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RockSauron
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RDJ is one of the best things they've got going right now of course they're going to shove Tony into the middle of the plot any way they can.2013-07-22 21:47:00

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Rabid-Coot
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RDJ is one of the best things they've got going right now of course they're going to shove Tony into the middle of the plot any way they can.

They've already confirmed RDJ is coming back for Avengers 2 and 3.

But you can bet that when they can't get him any more, whether it be for money or him being too old, they'll just replace him.

they've said exactly that.

So yeah, his plot arc isn't finished. They'll find a way to extend it, don't you worry.
2013-07-22 21:54:00

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RockSauron
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Personally not too fond of the idea of Tony Stark making Ultron; he'd be the obvious choice in a setting minus Pym, but it would feel like a huge fail for the character after the events of Iron Man 3. It would be like "Suit or no, I'm still Iron Man and I'm still great! Now stand aside while I create a mass-murdering genocidal robot!" It might also make any sort of levity that RDJ is known for injecting into the role seem really out of place.

While it doesn't seem to fit quite as well, I'd prefer if Thanos made Ultron, since it would make more sense for someone who is obsessed with Death like Thanos is to create something that wants to exterminate all organic life like Ultron typically does. And as stated already, it would contribute to building up to Thanos taking center stage later down the line.
2013-07-23 03:15:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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well I 'recon we'll see iron mans arc continue at least up until the point where marvel has put the 'civil war' story line on screen, even if it doesn't seem to make sense. it' probably also a point to make that characters don't always have only one story arc during their time on screen, this is more like an extended tv series than a movie franchise so I s'pose each 'wave' will see the characters given fresh issues to deal with.
and stark making ultron would make sense, or some random villain or corporation using starks jarvis technology. I don't really care to much about the villains origin story to be honest, we've seen those in every super hero film ever.
2013-07-23 12:10:00

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Smudge228
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I heard there was something of an Iron Man helmet being hammered into Ultron's head?

If so, I bet that Ultron was either made by Tony or by someone who stole his technology.
2013-07-23 13:10:00

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RockSauron
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I actually have a better idea of how Ultron was made: What if he wasn't made by Stark or Thanos, but by S.H.I.E.L.D? What if some of the engineers made a robot prototype, but it gets a mind of it's own, hacks every system on the Helicarrier, and attempt to make a robot army?2013-07-23 20:53:00

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amoney1999
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I actually have a better idea of how Ultron was made: What if he wasn't made by Stark or Thanos, but by S.H.I.E.L.D? What if some of the engineers made a robot prototype, but it gets a mind of it's own, hacks every system on the Helicarrier, and attempt to make a robot army?
Or what if Tony made it so he doesn't have to be Iron Man himself anymore? That's what happened in the comics and it would make sense since he already has the technology to make the suits self-operative and since he, well, destroyed all of his suits (though some say not all of them). Then again, these movies do stand on their own and apart from the story in the comics quite well, as proven by... every movie in the cinematic universe so far.

Anyway, it's official that Karen Gillan will play the villain in the Guardians of the Galaxy. She's a great actress for that role in my opinion, since she can be villainous and have the tough-chick-thing without being too... Well, too Ghostbusters.
2013-07-24 10:06:00

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FreeAim
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Well, I could see that in one part of the movie Ultron hacks into Tony's suit while he's using it, and attacks the other Avengers, making them have to stop the hacked suit without killing Tony. I've seen it happen in some of the cartoons, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's used again.2013-07-24 20:33:00

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amoney1999
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So, probable theories have been confirmed. (http://io9.com/does-an-avengers-2-casting-call-give-away-the-origins-o-959030699) Ultron will be made by Tony Stark, and I quote "unintentionally." Additionally, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are on board.2013-07-31 03:19:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


I know it's not technically the same universe but I'd like to point out that "The Wolverine" is brilliant.
Back on topic:
I'm looking forward to Thor 2, anyone else?
2013-07-31 17:20:00

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Jedi_1993
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I know it's not technically the same universe but I'd like to point out that "The Wolverine" is brilliant.
Back on topic:
I'm looking forward to Thor 2, anyone else?

NO. NO ONE.

... /raises hand

anyway, makes sense about Tony making Ultron. Wonder if it'll tie into Iron Man 3 heavily.
2013-07-31 18:18:00

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RockSauron
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I can only hope the next Thor movie has a greater sense of identity than the first. While I don't think it was a bad movie per se, I do feel as though it really didn't know what sort of movie it wanted to be (A hero's journey? A lighthearted adventure story? An epic of mythic proportions? A CGI-drenched showcase?), which largely held back its potential. I also didn't really care about the Thor/Jane romantic subplot, like at all.

And speaking of Thor, since Ultron is up to bat I can only hope, nay, I demand Whedon to do a cinematic representation of this famous Avengers moment in the sequel:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/topxx/5/topxx_5-18.jpg
2013-08-01 04:15:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


Agents of Shield airs in about four hours (in America). So, anyone going to watch it?2013-09-24 20:59:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Yeah, I'm gonna give it a chance. Of course given the amount of tv I currently watch, chances are even if its good, I won't see the entire season through.2013-09-24 23:29:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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I saw the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D last night, and I thought it was a really good show. It definitely has potential.2013-09-25 22:21:00

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amoney1999
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Yeah I liked it too2013-09-25 23:24:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Yeah, it was a pretty good opening. Better than a lot of shows. I did have the sudden urge to watch Iron Man 3 though.

- Agent Coulson is a robot. No, a clone, wait no, a ...(insert generic comic book explanation here).
- I wonder if the conspiracy theorist who joins the government agency is going to be turned into a love interest.
- Drinking game, drink at all blue light technology.
- Did he really try to say the helicarrier is not as good as the jet?
- The Car. Oh, the car.
2013-09-28 20:38:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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So, saw the pilot as well and as with many I do think it has potential. My only complaint is Skye and what's-his-name whom are obviously being set up as a couple. What's-his-name doesn't really make any sort of impression on me (as you might have guessed) and Skye's personality is just a bit too much and I don't feel like Chloe Bennett (the actress who plays her) is quite selling a lot of the lines. This is actually kind of strange, because I've seen Bennett before on Nashville, where she had a bit part but played another chipper character and I found she did that role really well (quite frankly, she's was the most normal and likable female on the show). I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt and consider it just may be the script...

While the popular theory is that he's either a clone or a robot imposter, my own theory is that he actually did die but was resurrected by magic. I base this on the simple fact that Coulson says that Tahiti as a place was "magic" and it's not as if the Marvel universe doesn't have that sort of stuff it it. It would also create a nice segway into exploring that segment of the universe (Doctor Strange, anyone?)
2013-09-29 04:31:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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I thought Coulson just faked his death to give the Avengers the motivation to fight.2013-10-01 19:03:00

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FreeAim
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Coulson didn't fake his death, Fury just lied about where the cards were at the time. He needed something conveniently symbolic to show the team so he took the Capt.A cards from Coulson's locker and pretended that Coulson had them when he died.

They did explain away Coulson's death in the first episode of shield, but the others involved had a little exchange about Coulson never being able to know something, presumably the truth behind his resurrection.

As far as the movie alone though, he did die.
2013-10-01 21:02:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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Okay! I saw Thor: The Dark World two days ago when it first came out in Finland. It's another fantastic comic-book movie by Marvel this year and it's certainly the most imaginative sci-fi this year (though not the best, as it still gets beaten by Elysium and Pacific Rim in my books). The actors returning from the last Thor movie are all fantastic. Tom Hiddleston as Loki is better than ever, Chris Hemsworth gives his best version of Thor so far, Natalie Portman is fantastic (I am beginning to get over her acting in Star Wars) and her character works great in the grand scheme of things and all the new actors are all great as well. Most notably Christopher Eccleston as the main villain is absolutely phenomenal, though I do hope they would've given him a bit more to work with to make this as good a villain as Loki was in Avengers.

The action in the movie is even better than Avengers and has possibly the most imaginative action sequence (which I won't spoil) in any movie I have ever seen. The production values are top-notch (I suggest seeing in IMAX or 2D, since 3D alone tends to blur the image a bit) and frankly every shot looks imaginative and every single set piece and costume designs is imaginative. The movie is also very funny! Not exactly Iron Man 3 funny, but more funny than the first Thor-movie was, the Avengers was or Iron Man 2 was. It's also the darkest Marvel movie I have ever seen. The narrative moves at a great pace, though it sort of forces you to get your head around it towards the end of the movie. While the plot may not be as relevant as that of Iron Man 3 or as compelling as Captain America, it's still great Marvel comic-book-movie quality.

While I don't think that this is, as a movie, as great as Iron Man 3, it's easily in the top 10 movies of the year (and judging by the looks of the rest of the year, it is likely to stay there) and one of the most inspirational pieces of sci-fi I have seen since Doctor Who - Waters of Mars ( 2008 ).

For Thor: The Dark World I give 9/10.

PS: Stay through the credits.
2013-11-01 14:24:00

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FreeAim
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PS: Stay through the credits.

Of course.

Looking foward to seeing it myself eventually.
2013-11-01 14:36:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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Sounds like I should check it out.

On a semi-related note, was there no Agents of Shield episode this week, or did my DVR just not record it?
2013-11-01 15:31:00

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Sounds like I should check it out.

On a semi-related note, was there no Agents of Shield episode this week, or did my DVR just not record it?

Last weeks preview said in two weeks, so I'm guessing there was no episode this week

Also, dunno when I'll see Thor as I want to take my girlfriend but we may be busy going to Disney...
2013-11-01 17:51:00

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RockSauron
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Last weeks preview said in two weeks, so I'm guessing there was no episode this week

Also, dunno when I'll see Thor as I want to take my girlfriend but we may be busy going to Disney...

Seeing as Disney bought Marvel, perhaps it will be playing there if they have a theater that shows Disney movies...
2013-11-01 18:50:00

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Seeing as Disney bought Marvel, perhaps it will be playing there if they have a theater that shows Disney movies...

Disney has an AMC theater at downtown Disney, but I'm not going to waste our day at Disney world going to a movie we can see back home
2013-11-01 18:59:00

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RockSauron
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Yeah, I figured, but you never know...2013-11-01 20:12:00

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DreadRandal
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Okay, I am sure you have all seen the end credits scene now. If you haven't don't open the spoilers.

Now, I have to confess that the mid-credits-scene (which is more relevant plot-wise) has got me more interested about "Guardians of the Galaxy" (2014) than the trailer for "Captain America: Winter Soldier" (2014) got me about it or the rumours of "Avengers 2: Age of Ultron" (2015) got me about it. The Collector, the Infinity Gauntlet... It has got me speculating. I do have to ask, though: who was the woman with the Collector?

"One down, five to go."
-The Collector

PS: I didn't see this here, so...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWsK1ZFunA

Not the best trailer ever, but gets one interested, at least.
2013-11-02 10:09:00

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FreeAim
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I saw Thor: The Dark World tonight and thought it was pretty good, though I do think the ending was a little abrupt and came a little out of nowhere, but nonetheless it was still a good movie.2013-11-09 05:37:00

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amoney1999
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So I'm sat there wathing Thor 2 listening to Malekith speaking his native language and all I can think of is lots of planets do have a north.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svi-fBXZzqI
2013-11-10 23:58:00

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Rabid-Coot
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What is better than a trailer? A teaser trailer!

What is better than a teaser trailer? A trailer for a teaser trailer! Only thing better than that is a teaser trailer for a teaser trailer, and that is what we have here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbFPyMOHcHQ

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY!
2014-02-18 20:09:00

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FreeAim
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It's cool they're able to do something so weird.

Latest summary does imply it'll be about another Infinity "Stone" and the race for it.

I'm looking forward to Captain America Winter Solider. Got a free movie ticket by donating blood so I'm set that way.
2014-02-18 20:20:00

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RockSauron
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Please do post any and all new trailers, if you may.2014-02-18 21:20:00

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FreeAim
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I'm curious to see how Chris Pratt does in Guardians. I've started to watch Parks and Recreation and Andy has to be my favorite character in it. I can't wait to see how he is able to pull off the role of a half-alien pilot, when I'm so used to seeing him as an idiot in Parks.2014-02-19 00:55:00

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Longer trailer can be found on YouTube. It doesn't exactly break any forum rules, as there is no nudity, gore, bad hand gestures or swear words there, but the trailer is so on-border that it might actually pass it in some sense. Also the jokes regarding these rule-breaking things are obvious as heck, so even though there is no direct swearing or other things like that, well, you get the idea.

Anyway, the song is catchy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0fOvlyv9U

"They call themselves Guardians of the Galaxy."

"What a bunch of A-holes."

Great trailer, I have to say. I especially like the details here and there. Like, on Rocket's character info when he's being booked, there is the name "Lylla" in "known associates". Lylla is basically Rocket's girlfriend. She's also an otter.

Then there's the close-up of Karen Gillan's Nebula holding a guy's throat with two blades. She looks awesome and despite the make-up, it still looks like Karen Gillan, so the little problem that was with Eccleston's make-up in "Thor 2" will no longer be present. That's cool.

Then, of course the awesome shot where Ronan the Accurser lifts up Drax the Destroyer with one hand. Awesome. I mean, this whole trailer is just so mind-blowingly amazing. The other mind-blowing thing is that they're actually doing a movie about an alien team with a raccoon by the name of Rocket and a tall tree-man by the name of Groot. The entire concept is just so amazing that it's impossible to imagine this comic book movie being made before a good DC superhero live-action movie that isn't about Batman or Superman.

Well, as long as we keep getting stuff like this from Marvel, I'm good. It's funny though, that Marvel, who lacks the movie-rights to their most famous superhero, Spider-man and to a big portion of their characters, the X-men can still make amazing series of movies that offers a realistic comic-book experience on screen, while DC who have the movie-rights to all of their characters can't even get a Wonder woman movie or a good Superman movie in the twenty-first century made. DC really seems to suck at this.

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/guardians-of-the-galaxy-leaked-footage-rocket-raccoon.gif
2014-02-19 06:56:00

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FreeAim
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I don't know this franchise, but there's an antropomorphic raccon and a huge walking tree. That's all it needed to convince me to go watch it.2014-02-19 15:19:00

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNbIW69yQQ&list=PLK5HARgNfgj9Nzu9sVTzFzn1 aPMm7aGlu&index=7&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQoNbI W69yQQ%26list%3DPLK5HARgNfgj9Nzu9sVTzFzn1aPMm7aGlu %26index%3D7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Udzfdl2xuw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0Ud zfdl2xuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf2a8zBrM4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4Rf 2a8zBrM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSnaS5BUUE0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrSn aS5BUUE0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddcpkBJ3R8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dddd cpkBJ3R8
http://i.minus.com/i7M1Cf5SuT2BA.gif
2014-02-20 22:07:00

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http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/02/27/abc-to-air-marvel-studios-special-with-avengers-age-of-ultron-sneak-peek

I'm excited
2014-02-27 21:04:00

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RockSauron
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Two things.

One, "Captain America 3" will open against "Batman Vs. Superman" and even though it probably won't win, this is awesome in so many ways. Two, "Captain America 2: Winter Soldier's" name in Europe is what? Well, it's "Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2014-03-18 12:52:00

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FreeAim
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I don't know, I think Captain America 3 has a lot of potential against the Man of Steel Sequel...

Anyway, MCU documentary in 9 hours. Whee
2014-03-18 16:03:00

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RockSauron
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Two things.

One, "Captain America 3" will open against "Batman Vs. Superman" and even though it probably won't win, this is awesome in so many ways.

One of them will most likely be delayed by the time 2016 rolls around.
2014-03-18 17:48:00

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"Captain America 2: Winter Soldier's" name in Europe is what? Well, it's "Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger."


Isn't that just a Germany thing.
2014-03-18 20:05:00

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Rabid-Coot
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http://i.imgur.com/qecODdu.jpg

Still from the first few minutes... Not much spoilers. But it makes me so excited to see it.
2014-03-19 21:20:00

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RockSauron
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Still from the first few minutes... Not much spoilers. But it makes me so excited to see it.

Well it's a dang good thing it's not a spoiler because you didn't put it into spoilers.
2014-03-19 22:09:00

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I've heard a few early reviews of Captain America 2: Winter Soldier and so far they have been positive. Then again, it is based on the also well-received Ed Brubaker run on the comic title but this also has the side effect of giving away a spoiler just through the title alone.2014-03-23 03:09:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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I've heard a few early reviews of Captain America 2: Winter Soldier and so far they have been positive. Then again, it is based on the also well-received Ed Brubaker run on the comic title but this also has the side effect of giving away a spoiler just through the title alone.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're even trying to keep it a spoiler from non comic fans, since the documentary just outed it.
2014-03-23 03:14:00

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RockSauron
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Hmm, not sure how to feel about the new Ultron...

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5744/pzra.png

Also, it seems that he's cooperating with humans. Who do you think those guys are? Former SHIELD agents, maybe?

Speculation is welcome.
2014-03-25 16:56:00

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FreeAim
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Ultron looks kinda... meh. In the comics and most other adaptations, Ultron looks super threatening. He's the kinda person you fear and cower from. This one looks like someone tried to cosplay him at a convention and failed with the mask. I mean, look at him! He looks more human than robot! Isn't he supposed to try and wipe out all the humans, yet he's mostly human himself? Hypocrite.2014-03-25 21:51:00

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I imagine Ultron will be created to protect the world after the events of the winter soldier, but will go rogue and be a Skynet tipoff2014-03-25 22:05:00

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RockSauron
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Ultron looks kinda... meh. In the comics and most other adaptations, Ultron looks super threatening. He's the kinda person you fear and cower from. This one looks like someone tried to cosplay him at a convention and failed with the mask. I mean, look at him! He looks more human than robot! Isn't he supposed to try and wipe out all the humans, yet he's mostly human himself? Hypocrite.

At this point of the conversation it'd probably be good to point out that the Ultron here is not wearing the full Ultron suit. I mean, he has trousers and a freaking rain-jacket. The Ultron parts are simply placed on top of them.
2014-03-25 23:27:00

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FreeAim
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At this point of the conversation it'd probably be good to point out that the Ultron here is not wearing the full Ultron suit. I mean, he has trousers and a freaking rain-jacket. The Ultron parts are simply placed on top of them.

That's what I mean. Ultron is a full on robot, not a guy in an armored suit like Iron Man.
2014-03-26 00:00:00

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amoney1999
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That's what I mean. Ultron is a full on robot, not a guy in an armored suit like Iron Man.

Well, it'd be easier for them to make him in a movie if he's actually there. So James Spader or whomever will be in the suit, so that they actually have some movement and stuff to make him look realistic.

But remember, we're looking at the original shot here. Remember how, in the first Cpatain America, Steve Rogers was originally really small? they didn't put Chris Evan's head on a midget, they just digitally removed pieces of him. So even though there will actually be a person inside Ultron, they can remove pieces of him in post production to make him look more machinelike.

But yeah, I have a feeling that Iron Man 3 and Tony's robot army and technology will play a huge role in ultron's construction. Probably something to do with Captain America 2, since that's supposed to be really big storywise.
2014-03-26 00:20:00

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Okay, so... Captain America: The Winter Soldier is a pretty awesome movie. Yeah, no surprise there at all. I am going to review it now, first with no spoilers at all, then with possibility of you figuring out something from what I write, but I still won't narrate anything important story-wise and then some reviewing with proper spoilers. Are we good? Good.

The thing with this movie being awesome is pretty formulaic for Marvel. That means that it invents new things while also drawing something they have already established and using it as a foundation for new stuff. No surprises here either. The movie is more heavily centered on being a good plot rather than a story, though it manages to pull out that as well. The action in the movie is spectacular, even by Marvel standards. It's not only creative in its own right, but it's also exciting, well shot (the camera-work in the movie is spectacular also) and exhausting in the correct way. There are some genuine moments where I am feeling genuine fear for the main characters.

The movie itself takes a new style for approaching its comic-book source material. While Thor: The Dark World was obvious mix-up of sci-fi and fantasy elements, this one seems to go in the direction of spy-espionage-style, but mostly in its plot. It's still a comic book action movie at heart, mostly because of the clever script-writing that takes already established world and characters and goes further with them than before, apart from maybe Avengers.

In terms of the overall plot going on in the Marvel cinematic universe, this movie goes further with establishing new tropes on the world and building it up even further. That is not to say that the personal arcs of the characters are left to the side. Steve Rogers, played brilliantly (yet again) by Chris Evans is not just a person going on an adventure that has nothing to do with him, but he is the leading cause of the story instead of a bystander.

At times, it seems like the story itself is charted a bit too much. Everything being relevant to everything may make sense, but it also risks making the world and the universe feel smaller as a result. Thankfully this is being used to do good instead of bad, as in the world opens up several new branches for the universe to go towards in the future. I especially can't wait to see what these changes to the universe add and how they tie into the personal worlds of other characters in the Age of Ultron next year.

The plot of the movie helps establish the overall story, but is also magnificently clever and deals with the themes of the concept of freedom and who one can trust, something that is not only recently relevant, but also a very clever way to approach the main characters.

I am now going to talk about the movie in a bit more detail. However, I will risk possibly spoiling something to someone in the process, not directly, but you may be able to figure out some of the film's well hidden surprises from the text. As for the scoring of the movie, as I said it's great. It's a definite step-up from Thor: The Dark World, not necessarily on the level of Iron Man 3, but still pretty dang good.

9/10

The way the movie approaches making Steve Rogers relevant in the post-Avengers world is by making him work with SHIELD. It's not a spoiler, you saw it in the trailer. Anyway, the movie feels much more like a sequel to Captain America: The First Avenger, rather than to Avengers or the Agents of SHIELD. There are several references, cameos and even quite a bit of plot relevant-stuff that draws directly from the First Avenger. That was probably the clever way to go about it.

Black Widow and Nick Fury get lots of character development in the movie as well, latter of which ends up being not only the most fun character in the entire movie, but also the most interesting one. The Flyboy is here and he is very cool, but I'm still waiting for him to justify his existence in any movies outside of this one. Talking of characters, is there someone I haven't really mentioned until now?

Oh, right. The Winter Soldier. Let's pretend you guys don't know the twist revolving around the guy. To be honest, the reason I haven't talked about him much is because there isn't much to talk about there. He is a constantly looming presence in the movie, gets one of the most scary and chilling introductions in the cinematic universe so far (beaten only by the appearance of another character in the movie, but that would be telling). While watching Captain America fight henchmen is fun, it's the fights with Winter Soldier that get really intense.

He does feel more of a henchman than a real villain, but given the universe-building done in this movie, it's probably the right way to go about it. Besides, when he is in the movie it's the coolest thing ever. Actually, the fights with him are so awesome that if he was the big villain of the movie, it would probably end up undermining the mystery-plot quite a bit. I do feel like they could've done more with him, though. He is a strong contender for the best villain in the established universe for just being so menacing and scary and strong, so they should've probably shown more cool things he can do in action scenes, especially with his metal arm, since everything to do with that ends up being one of the movie's action-highlights. That's a nitpick, yeah, but I'm completely, fully honest here. I want more metal arm.

The movie isn't really emotionally hard-hitting as a whole, but there are a couple of power-scenes quite early in the movie, which end up making up for it. For the future of the universe, though, I'd like to see a movie which really hits hard into the audience's emotional center, but I guess we still need to wait a couple of movies so they can properly do that.

Okay, if you guessed something from there, I'm sorry, but you're too clever to have fun. If you have seen the movie or don't care about spoilers, here's the movie in even more detail.

Right, so, I wasn't really surprised when the real villain was revealed. The reason is that he was the only one it could've been. That is not to say I knew it was him from the moment the movie started. In fact, I was on the edge of whether he was the villain or just someone who didn't know what was going on any better that the main character, but tried to do what was in his conception the right thing to do. Very clever writing there.

One of the emotional hitters was the scene with the love interest from the previous film (screw you, brain, for not remembering her name). When the scene started, I wasn't happy with her being alive, but when it ended I felt a whole new level of pain and sadness for someone other than me. That was powerful.

I wasn't really surprised with Nick Fury not dying, because they showed that "Looks like you're giving the orders now, Captain" line. The dialogue was very good in the movie, I felt, the highlight being especially the: "The Price of Freedom's high, but that's a price I'm willing to pay..." speech. As I mentioned earlier, the mystery plot really helps to build the universe and shows a whole new dimension the SHIELD as a whole. The appearance of HYDRA is a well-kept secret in the movie and the revelation is also the movie's scariest part. Toby Jones is a revelation as the machine-Zola, a villain so wonderfully ridiculous in concept, but due to him being the scariest thing in the movie you can't even laugh at it.

Anyway, yeah, this movie was pure, honest Marvel at its best. What did you expect?

EDIT: OH MY, THIS IS AMAZING.

New trailer for "The Guardians of the Galaxy" looks dang amazing, I tell you. Especially those final moments:

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"I am Thanos and I shall grant your world... Death."
Happy April fools, folks!
2014-04-01 10:30:00

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Saturday can't come soon enough...2014-04-01 18:24:00

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RockSauron
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Mild spoiler warning for Winter Soldier. Nothing serious, I doubt you'll guess anything from it, but we can never be sure.

Winter Soldier might be the best individual Marvel movie thus far, to be honest. If not, it's at least on the same level as Iron Man 3.

It's easily better in almost every sense than either of the two first Iron Mans, it's better than Incredible Hulk, as I don't feel like there are some big scenes lacking here and there, it is better than Thor and makes the real world more interesting place than Asgard, it's more thought-provoking than the first Captain America, it does feel like it does the same as Iron Man 3 (as in, there is a scene about midway through which ends up being a big deal in the movie, but here it also flips the tables for the entire MCU) twist-wise, it has better action than any standalone Marvel movie so far, it doesn't feel like it should be 30 minutes longer like Thor: The Dark World and it actually gets real dark at times.

No, I'm not saying the last thing makes the movie better than the rest. Being dark, realistic and grounded is one of those gimmicks in movies which fanboys of a certain movie made note-worthy for one guy's great performance drool over, whether it's any comic book movie or even any action movie in general (people getting all hyped for Godzilla, but for all the wrong reasons, to be honest). That is unfortunate, but it can also be done right.

Right examples: Iron Man 3 and Captain America: Winter Soldier. Both movies feel dark, at least darker than their predecessors but they also are the best movies (apart from Avengers) in the MCU. Why? Because the directors had made the audience know the characters prior to the movies, so when their worlds get dark, the audience feels it with the main characters.

The reason Man of Steel (for example) never quite worked as a movie was because it tried to be moody and dark without showing the polar opposite of that: being happy and vivid, prior to the movie. If it had, its dark and moody emotional tone could've been appreciated, but there it feels only so much like being dark for the sake of getting some of those Dark Knight -dollars.

Winter Soldier and Iron Man 3 are not only both great, great movies, they are built on solid foundations and the audience, even those unfamiliar with the comic book versions of the characters, can be expected to connect with the characters in the movie. They also are very similar whereas plot is concerned, though in Winter Soldier the plot twists have more effect on the story, rather than the plot. That may be one of the reasons why people can't seem to understand the twist in Iron Man 3, since it's, at least in my opinion, the better of the two. It does something which changes the direction of the entire plot so they have to justify that twist in the very same movie. While Iron Man 3 certainly does that and more, some folks seem to also be incapable of coping with the fact that they were outsmarted by the script. Also, there are some of those extremists to whom "artistic license" equals a swear-word (cases in point, The Hobbit movies, Iron Man 3, Noah).

So I can't really say whether Winter Soldier is better than Iron Man 3, but it certainly plays it safer, but on the other hand doesn't. What Winter Soldier does may be considered bad by those who can't cope with the change of story in the MCU, while Iron Man 3 was considered bad by those who couldn't comprehend the reasons behind its big plot-twist. However, Marvel has done so good of a job establishing their current universe, so that even though there's a major change to it, people are already assured that it's going to be fine, whereas the worst Iron Man 3's plot-twist could ever mean to anyone is basically (you might not like this movie).
2014-04-04 22:32:00

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FreeAim
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Finally saw it

It was about as awesome as you would imagine
2014-04-06 00:00:00

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RockSauron
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Well, it'd be easier for them to make him in a movie if he's actually there. So James Spader or whomever will be in the suit, so that they actually have some movement and stuff to make him look realistic.

But remember, we're looking at the original shot here. Remember how, in the first Cpatain America, Steve Rogers was originally really small? they didn't put Chris Evan's head on a midget, they just digitally removed pieces of him. So even though there will actually be a person inside Ultron, they can remove pieces of him in post production to make him look more machinelike.

But yeah, I have a feeling that Iron Man 3 and Tony's robot army and technology will play a huge role in ultron's construction. Probably something to do with Captain America 2, since that's supposed to be really big storywise.

So a short while ago, I ran across this Avengers 2 teaser which should go a long way in alleviating doubts on how Ultron is going to appear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr5rzSMNmRM
As you can see, the end result captures the classic Ultron jack-o-lantern face design and also supports the notion that he will be borne from Tony Stark's tech.

Personally, I hope this Ultron isn't characterized in the vein of Skynet like he was in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon. We've seen plenty of machines that turned against their creators in fiction and while this is also true for Ultron, he was unique in that this was rooted in a massive Oedipus Complex that made his conflicts with the Avengers deliciously twisted.
2014-04-06 01:32:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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I just saw Winter Soldier, and I've gotta say, it was pretty cool. I have high hopes for the next movies in the MCU.2014-04-06 02:49:00

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amoney1999
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I think the newest episode of Agents of SHIELD might be its best yet. No more needs to be said about that for now.

Since MovieBob did it, I think I should rank the Marvel movies myself as well. Of course, when we're ranking stuff it's important to remember that thing about everything being "opinions". Well, here are my rankings from weakest to the best:

Iron Man 2

When I say something, I say it for a reason. That's why I said "weakest", instead of "worst", because that'd imply that the movie in question would be bad in some way. Iron Man 2 isn't. It just isn't a really good one. It's more colourful than most other action movies end up being and it certainly has a great cast and the plot is actually quite interesting. It just doesn't move the story of the entire universe forward at all and it feels much more like a trailer for The Avengers rather than a good standalone movie. Still, I appreciate the effort.

Thor: The Dark World

Truth to be told, I was too kind to this movie at first. If you just see a few pages back, you'll see me telling it's awesome. But it isn't. It isn't even great, but Thor 2 serves as an action movie and is pretty good overall. It is just quite difficult to look over the obvious flaws, such as the poor central villain and the fact that movie feels like it's here to simply explain what happens, rather than to show the full effect of the things that do. If this movie was 30 minutes longer (assuming those 30 minutes would be filled well), it'd be much higher on the list.

Iron Man

Much like the sequel, this film mostly gets around via Robert Downey Jr's star-power and promises that are made towards the future of the cinematic universe and it's indeed notable that this movie did launch the entire MCU as a whole. However, looking back on this movie six years later one really begins to see the scratches in the surface and beneath it. The third act is non-existant, the villain is weak, the movie doesn't really work as an action movie as there isn't really that much action and Robert Downey Jr steals the show from everyone else. Once again, not bad, just not great.

Thor

The first movie on this list to be truly great. Thor is one-of-a-kind blockbuster with inspired style, great cast and it pretty much works as a way to "explain" the MCU to an outsider as a whole: yes, it's that cartoony, yes, it's that silly... but yes, it's that awesome!

Captain America: The First Avenger

I really like the First Avenger. Then again, there is a lot to like. Chris Evans is arguably the single best choice for any part in any movie in the history of ever, the whole thing feels just so dang confident in itself and comfortable in its own skin and with truly unique production values and the fact that the movie pulls off being a years-spanning World War fantasy epic, deeply personal character piece and an unarguable comic book movie, all at the same time can't be left unnoted.

The Incredible Hulk

I actually think this is the darkest of the movies in this universe so far. That, and it's also a truly great comic book monster movie that really understands the hardships and the events its characters go through to a fundamental level. I don't even feel like the complaint about the villain is well justified here. Abomination is awesome and works well as the main antagonist. The music is also absolutely stellar here. The First Avenger had the best song, but this movie had the best music of the phase 1 movies.

Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger

How good is this movie? It's so good that working together with the third Iron Man movie, it makes the entire first phase feel kind of awkward, despite the fact that it's awesome. This is the big one, the movie which turns the tables on the entire established universe, has the coolest antagonist in any of these movies and simply works as a pretty great action-espionage comic book movie. Truly fantastic.

Iron Man 3

Leave it to Shane Black to truly understand what to do with Iron Man. This movie is simply spectacular. The villains, the characters, the action, the plot, the story and the unexpected twist all work out well, resulting with the most fun and the most well realized movie out of all of the standalone movies up to date. I don't think I've ever been as satisfied with any movie before, aside from maybe... well, the number 1 of the list.

The Avengers

This is the perfect example of a perfect action movie, but it's also the perfect Avengers movie. The genuine characters and the subtext, fascinating dialogue and the stellar acting... I could go on and on about the things that this movie gets right in those ways, but I have to give credits to the movie for also being a fun-for-all action masterpiece. There is nothing I don't love about this movie. Truly special stuff, one of the greatest movies ever made, hands down the best superhero movie made since 1978's Superman (and even manages to beat that) and all around a spectacular ride from start to finish.
2014-04-15 20:48:00

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" Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger

Just call it the Winter Solider, ya commie.

Even though it wasn't really about him.

Hm.

Well anyway, Re: Incredible Hulk being the darkest: ell, of course It was done at the same time as Iron Man, so before they decided to ape Iron Man's action comedy formula. But yeah.

So Avengers 2 will have Jarvis as Vision and Scarlet Witch... Shall we get some robot on Witch action? ;o

(Cause they married in the comics. And even had kids. Though the kids were apparently demons or some stupid slab like that)
2014-04-15 21:03:00

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This is the perfect example of a perfect action movie, but it's also the perfect Avengers movie. The genuine characters and the subtext, fascinating dialogue and the stellar acting... I could go on and on about the things that this movie gets right in those ways, but I have to give credits to the movie for also being a fun-for-all action masterpiece. There is nothing I don't love about this movie. Truly special stuff, one of the greatest movies ever made, hands down the best superhero movie made since 1978's Superman (and even manages to beat that) and all around a spectacular ride from start to finish.

The Avengers was awesome, but subtext? Everything in that movie is pretty obvious and out in the open. The only subtext it had was probably the nature of the relationship between Hawkeye and the Black Widow.

She denied any kind of intimacy, but I'm pretty sure they've been doing it in secret. Did you see how they were looking at each other when they were eating in the shawarma place? No way they haven't been banging headboards.
2014-04-15 21:21:00

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I think the newest episode of Agents of SHIELD might be its best yet. No more needs to be said about that for now.


Thats not that much of an achievement, the 8 or 9 I watched set a very low bar.
2014-04-15 21:44:00

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" Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger

Just call it the Winter Solider, ya commie.

Even though it wasn't really about him.

Hm.

Well anyway, Re: Incredible Hulk being the darkest: ell, of course It was done at the same time as Iron Man, so before they decided to ape Iron Man's action comedy formula. But yeah.

So Avengers 2 will have Jarvis as Vision and Scarlet Witch... Shall we get some robot on Witch action? ;o

(Cause they married in the comics. And even had kids. Though the kids were apparently demons or some stupid slab like that)

Say what?

http://www.wewantmedia.de/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Return_of_the_First_Avenger_Logo-630x343-470x260.jpg

Anyway, since there won't be a new Hulk movie even though Hulk was the thing that made The Avengers, I think it'd be great for them to start making team up movies. Imagine if Hulk was actually an integral part of the next Iron Man movie. That'd be awesome way to give Hulk more stuff to wreck, but it'd also make for an awesome movie, assuming it's handled well.

And yes, Agents of SHIELD hasn't had many great episodes, most of them end up being simply "good" or "okay". "Turn, turn, turn", however, is the first truly great Agents of SHIELD episode. Then again, it plays off of the Return of the First Avenger, so that may have something to do with that.

Anyway, what are your favourite Marvel movies? Aside from the Avengers, of course.
2014-04-15 22:15:00

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" Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger

Just call it the Winter Solider, ya commie.

Even though it wasn't really about him.

Hm.

Well anyway, Re: Incredible Hulk being the darkest: ell, of course It was done at the same time as Iron Man, so before they decided to ape Iron Man's action comedy formula. But yeah.

So Avengers 2 will have Jarvis as Vision and Scarlet Witch... Shall we get some robot on Witch action? ;o

(Cause they married in the comics. And even had kids. Though the kids were apparently demons or some stupid slab like that)

If I remember correctly Scarlet Witch had a super realistic vision (no pun intended) of her and Vision having kids, but Professor X basically kills it off, making Scarlet Witch depressed and changing the entire form of the universe itself. Later on, the souls of her kids were put into two other teens. I forget their names but know that both are in the Young Avengers.
2014-04-15 22:22:00

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It's the Winter Solider in everywhere except Scandinavia and i think Germany. and considering the fact it's called The Winter Soldier in America, I believe that is the title it should be called.

But anyway. I don't think Disney owns the rights to solo hulk movies (Universal still does from the Ang Lee film, they gave part of the rights back since they weren't planning on doing anything) so, while Hulk can appear in team up movies he can't headline. I think that's the deal.), and I can't imagine Disney letting someone else finance and profit off of it. All this legal mumbo jumbo is complicated.

Anyway, I don't think there will be a solo Hulk movie. but I would LOVE a team up movie, preferably with Iron Man since they're already science buddies. Though I don't know if there will be another solo Iron Man movie, at least with RDJ.
2014-04-15 22:25:00

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It's the Winter Solider in everywhere except Scandinavia and i think Germany. and considering the fact it's called The Winter Soldier in America, I believe that is the title it should be called.

But anyway. I don't think Disney owns the rights to solo hulk movies (Universal still does from the Ang Lee film, they gave part of the rights back since they weren't planning on doing anything) so, while Hulk can appear in team up movies he can't headline. I think that's the deal.), and I can't imagine Disney letting someone else finance and profit off of it. All this legal mumbo jumbo is complicated.

Anyway, I don't think there will be a solo Hulk movie. but I would LOVE a team up movie, preferably with Iron Man since they're already science buddies. Though I don't know if there will be another solo Iron Man movie, at least with RDJ.
Oh, they do own the full movie rights to Hulk. In short, the only reason there is no sequel is that the first one made the least money out of phase one movies, which is sad. Marvel does also own the rights to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, but due to their mutant origins they can only feature them by name in "The Avengers" movies. Now that we're on the subject, isn't it funny how we are getting Rocket Raccoon before a properly realized on-screen version of Wonder Woman? DC own the rights to all their characters, but they just don't know what to do with them.

Anyway, I don't think I should call Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger "The Winter Soldier" because America. I mean, we Europeans did get it before you did. That's equal reason for you to call it as we do. Therefore we both call it whatever we like.
2014-04-15 22:45:00

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It's the Winter Solider in everywhere except Scandinavia and i think Germany. and considering the fact it's called The Winter Soldier in America, I believe that is the title it should be called.

But anyway. I don't think Disney owns the rights to solo hulk movies (Universal still does from the Ang Lee film, they gave part of the rights back since they weren't planning on doing anything) so, while Hulk can appear in team up movies he can't headline. I think that's the deal.), and I can't imagine Disney letting someone else finance and profit off of it. All this legal mumbo jumbo is complicated.

Anyway, I don't think there will be a solo Hulk movie. but I would LOVE a team up movie, preferably with Iron Man since they're already science buddies. Though I don't know if there will be another solo Iron Man movie, at least with RDJ.

The distribution of movie rights for Marvel characters is a bit of a mess to say the least.

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/02/tumblr_n0sbtcJKyr1qa0uujo1_1280.png

I'm wondering what the Lionsgate execs were thinking when they went shopping for character rights and decided to settle for the Man-Thing.
2014-04-16 10:07:00

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I'm wondering what the Lionsgate execs were thinking when they went shopping for character rights and decided to settle for the Man-Thing.

Did it come with some other Marvel stuff in their near bankruptcy sale but hasn't reverted back because the TV movie they did extended their rights?
2014-04-16 13:28:00

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Google seems to imply they got Man Thing to make a low budget horror movie and the rights just haven't resorted back to Marvel yet

Makes sense when you realize that, before recently, superheroes weren't considered big budget worthy, so they bought the rights to something that could be. Horror movie, which they felt was more bankable
2014-04-16 13:42:00

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Oh yeah. I have read plenty of comics for the future Marvel movies: Doctor Strange and Guardians of the Galaxy are all nice, but I think Ant-man might just be my favourite. Let's see how the movie turns out next year.

Future movies:

Phase 2:
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers 2: Age of Ultron

Phase 3:
Ant-man
Captain America 3

Phase ? (rumoured R/confirmed C):
Doctor Strange (C)
Black Panther (C)
Miss Marvel (R)
Blade (R)
Punisher (R)
The Incredible Hulk 2 (R)


There is indeed a Doctor Strange-movie coming out too. There simply isn't any knowledge on who will be the creators behind the movie, but it's supposed to come out before the third team up movie. I hope it's good.
2014-04-16 14:55:00

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Don't forget Thor 3, that was also confirmed

Be interesting to see King Loki
2014-04-16 15:53:00

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Don't forget Thor 3, that was also confirmed



I had no idea of this.

What Marvel phase was this confirmed for?
2014-04-16 17:41:00

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I had no idea of this.

What Marvel phase was this confirmed for?

I remember it was talked about shortly after Thor 2 came out. I think it was talked about for Phase 3...

Speaking of which, considering the Tesseract is in Asgard and Thanos will need it for Avengers 3 if they're doing the Infinity Gauntlet storyline (which is likely since they said Guardians of the Galaxy directly impacts Avengers 3), there would need to be some interaction between Loki and Thanos beyond the unseen implied ones in order for it to fall into Thanos' hands...
2014-04-16 18:12:00

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Will Guardians of the Galaxy belong to the MCU continuity?2014-04-16 20:03:00

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Will Guardians of the Galaxy belong to the MCU continuity?

Of course. Didn't the mid-credit scene in Thor: The Dark World explain that fully well? The Collector in that scene was also in the trailer for the Guardians of the Galaxy.

My guess/prediction/wish though, is that the end credit scene for the Guardians of the Galaxy will be something like Asgard declaring war on some other planet. That, or trailer for the Age of Ultron.

Anything works, really.

However, how do we know that Thanos will be the villain in Avengers 3? I mean, everybody thought he was the bad guy of Avengers 2, but look how that turned out. Besides, he's not the only famous Avengers-villain in the established universe. I just mention The Collector as well, so maybe he will be the villain in Avengers 3? Maybe Red Skull will return (since he didn't die in The First Avenger)?

If it has been confirmed, fine, but otherwise, I wouldn't jump to conclusions. We only have two, maybe three Infinity Stones introduced so far anyway (I'm guessing the relic in GOTG trailer is one of them, but I am not sure), so I doubt these guys are rushing it.
2014-04-16 20:32:00

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Well, they've confirmed Guardians will link directly to Avengers 3 and that the villains in Gotg are working for Thanos. So logic would imply that Thanos is involved in Avengers 3.

I was thinking the post credits scene for Gotg will be Thanos on his throne like in Avengers. I did see an article a while back saying that a popular villain was sitting on a floating throne in Gotg, I can find the link when I get home
2014-04-16 20:47:00

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For Thor 3 it's been said that it will be based around the event known as Ragnarok, which is basically the end of the world in Norse mythology. Also, it's inevitable that Thanos will be the villain of Avengers 3, since they leave the biggest villain as the last one to fight.2014-04-16 22:27:00

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For Thor 3 it's been said that it will be based around the event known as Ragnarok, which is basically the end of the world in Norse mythology. Also, it's inevitable that Thanos will be the villain of Avengers 3, since they leave the biggest villain as the last one to fight.

How do you know it's the last fight, though?
2014-04-17 05:55:00

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Of course. Didn't the mid-credit scene in Thor: The Dark World explain that fully well? The Collector in that scene was also in the trailer for the Guardians of the Galaxy.

When I go see a movie in the theater, I don't wait for the credit scenes. Ain't nobody got time for that. If they're a must-see, I eventually watch them on Youtube.
2014-04-17 12:24:00

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How do you know it's the last fight, though?

In the Avengers, when they teased him at the end you knew he was coming. I'm expecting in Guardians of the Galaxy to tease him again, letting the fans know yet again that he's coming. I've noticed that some film franchises always tease the main villain, telling the viewer that he'll be coming, and will be the main hero's final fight to complete his/her fight.
2014-04-19 01:24:00

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Um... the MCU isn't going to have a definite end, and it wn't have a final villain :/2014-04-19 01:26:00

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Um... the MCU isn't going to have a definite end, and it wn't have a final villain :/

Well, of course. What I mean is that they're saving Thanos for a later movie. It'll end their conflict with him, and they'll move on to another villain.
2014-04-19 14:25:00

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They have mentioned having plans up to 2028 http://io9.com/marvel-has-its-movies-planned-through-2028-yes-2028-1557658600

That should be enough for another 3 Avengers films after Thanos and probably bring a few more characters to mainstream popularity.
2014-04-19 17:09:00

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They have mentioned having plans up to 2028 http://io9.com/marvel-has-its-movies-planned-through-2028-yes-2028-1557658600

That should be enough for another 3 Avengers films after Thanos and probably bring a few more characters to mainstream popularity.

If that's true, then I will be still posting here in 14 years time.

EHEHEHEHE. It's not even funny because it's likely true.
2014-04-19 19:35:00

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Saw the finale to Agents of Shield. Twas good.

Also
http://i.imgur.com/HvSee4b.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cMRsyeP.gif
2014-05-16 03:02:00

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http://i.imgur.com/cMRsyeP.gif

This is my favourite thing.
2014-05-16 09:37:00

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It was especially good when I did not expect it. It was a total surprise at the end of the tunnel2014-05-16 16:25:00

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RockSauron
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AAAAA-A-AA-A-AAAAH! I'M HOOKED ON A FEELIN'!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yh3vYs-zo

Favourite line: "Ain't there no-thing like me 'xcept me." -Rocket
2014-05-19 18:48:00

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Really? My favorite line is "I Am Groot?"2014-05-19 19:35:00

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CqymRQ1uUU2014-06-18 00:49:00

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Yes... it will be a good movie :kz:2014-06-18 00:51:00

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Is it me or does Guardians look like it'll become a cult classic in the next 10-20 years? That's how it looks for me, but either way this movie looks really cool.2014-06-18 07:01:00

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If this was the first trailer out for this movie, I'd be concerned.

Now that it's the third "real" trailer, I can wait for this movie even less.
2014-06-18 08:51:00

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Personally I love the X-Men movies. We all know that they have to show an awesome thing at the end of a Marvel Movie, and I think that the ending credits for the latest X-Men movie is a tough one to beat.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

For those who have seen the ending did you recognize that amazing Super Villain at the end? I think that the next X-Men movie (nicknamed: X-Men Apocalypse) will be the best of the series. En Sabah Nur (Apocalypse) is the most powerful of (I think) any villain in the Marvel Universe. He can shape shift, fly, grow into different sizes, and lets not forget he can also change his molecular structure to mimic metals. Oh yeah did I mention he is more powerful than Hulk?!

I don't know how they are going to pull this next movie off, but if they do it well, I believe it will be the best Marvel movie ever!

Who else is excited for the next X-Men already?
2014-06-20 20:03:00

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Way to talk about the wrong movies in the wrong thread!2014-06-20 20:07:00

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Yeah, wrong thread, but no, Apocalypse is not the strongest villain in any Marvel comic book. Forgot about this guy?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111123892/3674403-2831813-galactus.jpg

He eats places where Apocalypse lives in for breakfast.

Still, yes, I have to admit. The end credits scene of the good-yet-flawed X-Men: Days of Future Past almost got me excited for the future of this franchise. If only they threw those annoying skin-tight leather-suits to the bin and got the original comic book costumes out. Also, they might want to find another reference point to action movies than Matrix. Just saying, the movie is good, but it's still nothing special in comparison to First Class and it's basically a joke in comparison to any superhero movie that hasn't been stuck in place since the 2000's.

I mean, First Class is still the best X-Men movie and honorably holds its place in my top 5 comic book movies ever and it's the only X-Men movie that has shown marks of the franchise actually evolving (not story-wise).

By the way, my personal top 5 comic book superhero-movies ever, since you were interested:

5.) The Dark Knight
4.) X-Men: First Class
3.) Captain America: Winter Soldier
2.) The Avengers
1.) Spider-man

Still, did you see that Guardians of the Galaxy TV-spot with the phrase: "We are the Guardians of the Galaxy!" ??? It was basically the same as the second trailer, only shorter and with that new bit. Anyway, the first reviews for GotG are saying it's "great", so that's a good sign. It's not getting the Winter Soldier -reception, but I'm still confident that the movie will be awesome.

It also has few plot details spoiled, but only a few. I wasn't bothered by them. Talking of spoilers, there are spoilers going around the internet for Age of Ultron. I refuse to read them, but some people were shown the 20 first minutes of the movie and they're saying that the first 20 minutes are better than those of the first Avengers movie. Not much, since those 20 minutes were mostly set-up, but still, it's beginning to sound a lot like Age of Ultron being the Empire Strikes Back of this franchise.
2014-06-20 21:25:00

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I completely forgot about Galactus, but then again he did get destroyed by his own creation, the Silver Surfer. I still believe that if Apocalypse and Galactus fought it out, Apocalypse would win even if he is defeated. Apocalypse always has a way to revive himself in another body some time later.

Guardians of the Galaxy has my interest, but there is some doubt in me that it will do well in theaters. It is a bit overhyped in my opinion and should have been brought out into the public slowly instead of bashed into our heads in almost all forms of advertisement. Maybe with the right amount of first viewers it will gradually gain more and more movie goers attention. (That's what I hope.)

BTW Rock, technically if we just limit the talk to Wolverine we will be okay because Wolverine was added to the Avengers in the comics in the late 2000's. I am hoping that he is considered to be added to the Avengers in the movie because he is so awesome! I think his "Forget you" attitude would fit right into the misfit bunch. I'm sure he would butt heads with Thor and Iron Man. In my opinion, we should send in letters to Joss Whedon and tell him to add in Wolverine. Just a thought.
2014-06-21 07:43:00

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjbRL0HdVwQ

Here's a video by WatchMojo. Apocalypse is #4, only to be defeated by Doctor Manhattan, Superman and, you guessed it, Galactus. There are reasons as to why he could be defeated by the Silver Surfer, but that has a lot to do with the identity of Silver Surfer, the plot-specific reasons and the fact that we can't have him destroy everything that has been set up in Marvel continuity. But yeah, Galactus? Still the strongest comic book being there is, with the exception of the Divine Superman, aka the Superman who has pretty much ascended into a being of infinite potential. (Also, it should be said that the thing in "The Rise of the Silver Surfer" barely at all resembles the Galactus from the comics, so if that was your reference point, then he might not come off as such a threat.)

Still, I disagree about the Guardians of the Galaxy. It has been brought into knowledge slowly for the last 5 years, with things such as team-up with the Avengers, Spider-man, (in the comics) making them appear in games and even TV cartoons ("Avengers, Earth's Mightiest Heroes", "Avengers: Assemble!", "Ultimate Spider-man"). The fact that bringing something as bluntly specific as the Guardians to screen was always going to feel sudden, so the people in the production team decided just to go with it.

Also, I have a feeling that the movie will be somewhat a hit, at least on the level of Thor: The Dark World. The thing is that its marketing is too out there to be missed and several people will see it, just for how bizarre it is and maybe for Vin Diesel and/or Bradley Cooper. In fact, it seems to be generally accepted that the movie will do good among internet nerds, mostly because of these things.

In addition, I should probably say that there's a higher chance of Spider-man showing up in this cinematic universe than there is of any Fox-owned character. Since Fantastic Four, X-Men and Deadpool are all Fox-owned, there is extremely low chance we'll ever see them here. Fox and Marvel Studios have a hate-hate relationship between one another and despite the fact that Hugh Jackman has stated that he'd love it, I doubt we will see any X-Man in this cinematic universe.
2014-06-21 10:01:00

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On first note: "Man of Steel" makes me mad. Okay now with that aside let us continue.

I didn't realize we were comparing the Heroes to the Villains but if we are, of course Superman is more powerful than "Apocalypse", I mean his only weaknesses are a rock that is sometimes hard to find on earth and magic. (Pfft...I still wonder about that weakness....)

When it comes to Guardians of the Galaxy, yes they were slowly brought out from a comic book reader's perspective, but I actually had never heard of them until the huge burst of advertisement on YouTube. I guess when it comes to movies based on something for me, I have to just go and see the movie. I get so many different opinions on movies that I just don't listen to what others say about it now. For example: "The Hunger Games" when it came out. I went to a Cinema school for about a year, so that helped me make decisions on what movies are worth seeing, but at the same time, I notice a lot more when watching a movie. It can be an annoying burden sometimes.

Your right about there not really being a chance for Wolverine to be in the Avengers, Batman probably has a better chance than Spiderman or Wolverine. Okay I shouldn't start talking about Batman.... That's a whole other subject I could talk forever on.

I think the newest Avengers movie is going to be an even bigger success than the first one. Joss Whedon really is a fantastic Writer/Director in my opinion. Mostly known for his work on Buffy, it has been an interesting journey to see him go from co-writing Toy Story to Buffy to Doll House to a Horror movie: Cabin in the Woods. I think he is the perfect fit for the Avengers. He knows his audience and has been a fan of Marvel for a very long time. I think he could be the one to take over directing a lot of different Marvel movies in the future besides Avengers.
2014-06-21 16:59:00

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Here's a video by WatchMojo. Apocalypse is #4, only to be defeated by Doctor Manhattan, Superman and, you guessed it, Galactus. There are reasons as to why he could be defeated by the Silver Surfer, but that has a lot to do with the identity of Silver Surfer, the plot-specific reasons and the fact that we can't have him destroy everything that has been set up in Marvel continuity. But yeah, Galactus? Still the strongest comic book being there is, with the exception of the Divine Superman, aka the Superman who has pretty much ascended into a being of infinite potential.

Franklin Richards says hello.


Who would have ever guessed that one of the most incredibly overpowered individuals within the Marvel Universe would be a small child? The son of Fantastic Four members Reed Richards and Sue Storm, Franklin was born a mutant due to his parents exposure to cosmic radiation. Rather than being gifted with menial powers such as elasticity or invisibility young Franklin was born with the ability to manipulate reality. Unlike the Scarlet Witch, Franklin?s powers manifested at a very early age and have grown at an incredible rate.

There are some theories that state that Franklin Richards actually controls the entirety of the Marvel universe. The character has ? on more than one occasion ? created an entire universe. Following the disaster of the Onslaught crossover Franklin created a pocket universe for the heroes that sacrificed themselves to stop the malevolent entity. During this crossover he displayed some of his greatest feats including creating a second sun that threw off Earth?s gravitational field.

Powerful characters such as Mephisto have been shown to fear the boy. Mephisto being a villain so powerful that he too can recreate the world and change reality. It has also been hypothesized that Galactus himself is a herald to Franklin, having once been summoned by him while still unborn! Franklin doesn?t even need to be consciously aware in order to use his powers having been only faintly aware of what he has done in the past such as when he created a new universe.

It is also stated that Franklin has created psionic blocks within his own mind to prevent himself from establishing his full power. These blocks have failed to prevent him from manifesting power subconsciously, and have also failed to prevent him from achieving precognition and his ability to see into other realities. It is stated when he reached maturity he will employ a vast amount of great powers including telepathy, telekinesis, energy projection, and energy and matter reconstitution on a cosmic level.

There truly has been no character more overpowered than Franklin Richards with only Sentry coming close. Franklin, however, has yet to even reach his full potential which is what makes him the most overpowered of them all.
2014-06-21 17:04:00

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If you want to talk about the X-men movies, then make a new thread, This is solely for the MArvel Cinematic Universe movies made by MArvel Studios and taking place in that universe :kz:2014-06-21 17:47:00

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I think you already mentioned something about that Rock and none of us are clearly only talking about the X-men now.... I think we're all on the same page.

Is there anything you are really looking forward to in the new Avengers movie?
2014-06-22 14:30:00

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theonlybub
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The super villain willy measuring contest probably should be spun off in to its own thread too.2014-06-22 14:46:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Rabid-Coot, these were not just supervillains we were talking about.

But anyway, to answer the question of theonlybub, I have read what happens during the twenty first minutes of the movie and I have no desire to discuss further, because I could accidentally spoil something. I do say, though, that I hope we see Wakanda play some kind of part here.
2014-06-22 14:52:00

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FreeAim
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Incidentally, when my family were watching Thor and Cap (the first ones) [on Sky Box Office], I was upstairs playing the PS3 (probably LBP). I'd come downstairs and ask what they were watching, then I'd hover at the door for a few minutes before retreating back to my room. Having only seen Iron Man 1+2 and the incredible Hulk, I hadn't even heard of the avengers was a film until after it had released!

I ended up watching it on a dodgy website with (possibly) chinese subtitles and in very low resolution. I happened to watch through the credits to see thanos (I had no idea who he was). After watching that film, I instantly became a fanboy, and started researching some of the marvel lore.

Tl;dr
I've seen Thor2 with a friend and Cap2 with a different friend (on both occasions I had to tell them to sit through the credits) having a much higher level of excitement because I actually understood the mid-credits scenes! [And actually had to explain it to them] Probably going to see GotG as well although I've only seen the original trailer. It might sound sad but the avengers has possibly changed my life in a big way, of which I won't explain in this post.
2014-06-25 23:34:00

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wally-217
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Incidentally, when my family were watching Thor and Cap (the first ones) [on Sky Box Office], I was upstairs playing the PS3 (probably LBP). I'd come downstairs and ask what they were watching, then I'd hover at the door for a few minutes before retreating back to my room. Having only seen Iron Man 1+2 and the incredible Hulk, I hadn't even heard of the avengers was a film until after it had released!

I ended up watching it on a dodgy website with (possibly) chinese subtitles and in very low resolution. I happened to watch through the credits to see thanos (I had no idea who he was). After watching that film, I instantly became a fanboy, and started researching some of the marvel lore.

Tl;dr
I've seen Thor2 with a friend and Cap2 with a different friend (on both occasions I had to tell them to sit through the credits) having a much higher level of excitement because I actually understood the mid-credits scenes! [And actually had to explain it to them] Probably going to see GotG as well although I've only seen the original trailer. It might sound sad but the avengers has possibly changed my life in a big way, of which I won't explain in this post.

I like how you TL;DR is more than half the length of your original post

Anyway, can't wait for Antman and Dr Strange. I want more Avengers, main ones, not the minor ones that didn't have their own movie. I mean, they're cool, but not the big guys

On another note, I heard reports that they say the guys playing Falcon and Agent Tripplet from Agents of Shield on set. And something about an army.
2014-06-25 23:39:00

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RockSauron
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I like how you TL;DR is more than half the length of your original post


I originally had the headings 'Backstory' and 'Further' so be grateful for what you got!
It's my obsession with brackets that does the trick.

I'm personally routing for a 2022 Planet Hulk movie
2014-06-26 00:29:00

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wally-217
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Anthony Mackie is probably in my top 5 favourite assisting-roles in this cinematic universe. Among with Hugo Weavings as the Red Skull, Sebastian Stan as Bucky, Samuel L. Jackson as Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Kingsley as Trevor Slattery. I don't think Tom Hiddleston as Loki counts as an assisting role at this point, so that's why he's not here.2014-06-26 10:58:00

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FreeAim
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE9vypfwbvk2014-07-08 14:13:00

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Rabid-Coot
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^^ Video is private? Whut is it?

And do you want to know something I realized a while ago?

Avengers: Age of Ultron releases an entire week earlier in the UK than in the US. I could see it a week earlier and post spoilers everywhere. I shall fight the typecast of the British being villains by doing something villainous myself; take that Hollywood!
2014-07-08 18:59:00

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Wally, you are a little late to the party. I have been doing that since the original Avengers movie.

Gets a little tough with Guardians, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
2014-07-08 20:39:00

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FreeAim
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http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RWi2BFRH--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zpiexbjla4oujbl4viqa.jpg


For better or worse (trust us, it's worse), his Tony Stark has devised a plan that won't require him to put on the Iron Man suit anymore, and should allow Captain America, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and the Hulk to get some much needed R&R as well. His solution is Ultron, self-aware, self-teaching, artificial intelligence designed to help assess threats, and direct Stark's Iron Legion of drones to battle evildoers instead.

So Tony Stark is going to be policing the World with his Iron Man Legion from Iron Man 3 after the fall of SHIELD in Winter Soldier. Sounds like what I wanted and expected.

I just hope Captain America isn't just a lapdog and actively argues with Tony about this. You know, since a giant robotic legion in hold of one man shouldn't really be what Captain America stands for. I expect/hope for some confrontations about this.
2014-07-16 19:27:00

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RockSauron
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Did Cap get a new haircut? I don't like it.

On another note, it does seem very out of character. If memory serves me correctly, I'm sure a similar thing happened in Iron Man 2, where the military amours got hijacked? As well as the heli-carrier fiasco in the winter soldier. Surely they've learnt their lesson by now! Not that I'm doubting Whedon's ideas. It's going to be great.
2014-07-16 21:20:00

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wally-217
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It's a Joss Whedon movie. The characters will clash.

Also, it's not out of character at all in my eyes. However, we will see how it's played out.
2014-07-19 12:00:00

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FreeAim
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So, more recent news is that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will be, and I quote, "on Team Ultron" (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/07/17/avengers-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-the-vision/) so apparently they'll remain antagonists beyond Baron Von Strucker's stint as starter villain for the movie. It makes me wonder if both Von Strucker and later Ultron will use Loki's staff to control their minds for most of the movie.

Also, some extra tidbits, in the comics Ultron did actually possess an "encephalo beam" that allowed him to control the minds of others and many also theorize that the gem inside Loki's staff is actually the MCU infinity stone equivalent of the "mind gem," which makes sense when you consider what it does and who supplied it. And if that's the case, we would be up to four infinity stones that have been revealed in the MCU, the others being the Tesseract (space), the Aether (reality presumably) and the Orb (power) that appears in Guardians of the Galaxy. This would leave only "time" and "soul" to be accounted for and presumably two more movies for the whole set.
2014-07-19 17:25:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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Also, it's not out of character at all in my eyes. However, we will see how it's played out.

I'm sure it'll be well written so I'm not worried. But everyone seemed so buddy-buddy at the end of the avengers, it's difficult for me to imagine a fall-out.
2014-07-19 17:27:00

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wally-217
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I'm sure it'll be well written so I'm not worried. But everyone seemed so buddy-buddy at the end of the avengers, it's difficult for me to imagine a fall-out.

Falling outs happen all the time in comics. It could happen again, especially for something as important as world peace. I just hope it doesn't happen so often in the movies that it loses all meaning.

Also, they've announced 3 films in 2017. Huh. That's a lot for one year.

http://screenrant.com/marvel-studios-release-dates-2017-2018-2019/

Also, good call on Ultron using the staff/ Mind Gem in the Avengers 2. Eventually, they'll have to get it back to Thanos somehow, though... As well as the tesseract, which is in Asgard... maybe that'll be a major plot point in Thor 3.

Speaking of which, I hope they don't completely forget about Loki and Thanos' relationship...
2014-07-19 19:52:00

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RockSauron
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As for the twin's, I think they will be 'bad' off their own accord, possibly changing sides later on when the avengers open up their minds or something. We already had the mind gem turning people 'bad' in the first Avengers, I don't expect Whedon to use it again. Isn't Loki's staff also powered by the tesseract? Perhaps they are using it for things that aren't mind control, a substitute power source perhaps?

Leading in a different direction:
What are your expectations for phase 3 and beyond?

Ant-Man (2015)
Captain America 3 (2016)
Doctor Strange (2016)
Untitled Film (2017) x3
Untitled Film (2018) x2
Untitled Film (2019)

Thoughts on the untitled projects? It's likely not all of them will be made anyway but Avengers 3 is a definite. I think Thor 3, Black Panther, Hulk 2, Ms Marvel/Black widow (whichever is first as I think the other would only be made if the first is successful) are the favorites to be made. Well, Hulk is still on the borderlines. Planet Hulk is unlikely but is definitely the fans' favorite choice.
2014-07-21 00:41:00

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wally-217
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Thor 3 was already announced. It even has a bit of a summary, but not much. It's basically just Ragnarok with Marvel characters from all I've heard.2014-07-21 01:40:00

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Well, I still think they should reference the fact that Loki was working for Thanos in some degree. Especially since I don't think Thanos would like that Loki failed in his mission (and seemingly lost one of the Infinity Stones in the process, assuming that the staff was one). And, since Thanos would need to go to Asgard to get the Tesseract, it'd be the perfect opportunity for some revenge by Thanos or some conniving by Loki to get on the good side of the Mad Titan.2014-07-21 01:47:00

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RockSauron
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Thor 3 was already announced. It even has a bit of a summary, but not much. It's basically just Ragnarok with Marvel characters from all I've heard.

Are you sure those aren't rumors? I saw it had been announced somewhere but Wikipedia doesn't have it as confirmed. It doesn't really matter since it's pretty likely to get made. Doctor Strange has been confirmed though.

I know your not supposed to do this but this is probably the best place to ask it.
I've made a Marvel RPG but the main menu is separate to the level. If you wouldn't mind, if any of you have someone join you when playing online, I need people to test the level links on multilayer. I just need to find out if you can enter the level links without it kicking the other players. you can queue it here (https://lbp.me/v/qsmfgxf). Thank you.

If it doesn't work I'll have to do some reconfiguring to put the menu in the same level
2014-07-23 19:44:00

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wally-217
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Are you sure those aren't rumors? I saw it had been announced somewhere but Wikipedia doesn't have it as confirmed. It doesn't really matter since it's pretty likely to get made. Doctor Strange has been confirmed though.


It was on IMDB, and Marvel has already talked about making Thor 3.
2014-07-23 20:10:00

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I don't think there's another person in the Marvel universe with the potential to show Loki the true power of the Teseract, other than the one guy who, without a doubt, knows the power of the Infinity Stones. Besides, I don't think lines of dialogue like "Who controls the would-be-king?" were in the first Avengers to mislead the audience.

Wally, the fact that Thor 3 is about Ragnar?k is already confirmed. There's arguing about the fact. If we want to argue and make wild guesses towards the future, we can always talk about the possibility of the Civil Wars story-line being implemented. In fact, I'd say we'll see some of that in Avengers 2. Not the part where there is talk about banning superheroes, but the thing where there will be a gap formed between the Avengers.

The reasons for superheroes not just teaming up and dealing with the threat in the phase two movies were all circumstancial. Tony Stark was presumed dead for the majority of Iron Man 3, Thor 2 mostly took place in other worlds and Captain America was a fugitive and the S.H.I.E.L.D. was in crisis so they were not going to team anyone up. In fact, there were Easter Eggs in The Winter Soldier about Tony gathering up folks at the Avengers Tower.

Since their teamwork will no longer work based on S.H.I.E.L.D, we are going to need some reason for them to go their separate ways, so I'm guessing the Avengers will disband in Avengers 2. Besides, part two of any trilogy (not saying Avengers will END as a trilogy, but there will certainly be a connecting element in the first three movies exclusively) is always supposed to end on a low note, so part three can be the ultimate triumph.

So yeah, Avengers will disband at the end of Avengers 2 is what I predict. Not a spoiler, since it's not confirmed. I am just guessing that's how it will be.
2014-07-24 16:18:00

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FreeAim
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It was on IMDB, and Marvel has already talked about making Thor 3.

Yes, Thor 3 is confirmed, although I wouldn't trust IMDB as a source for that, personally. Like Wikipedia, anyone can enter information in for it, although from what I've seen, it also seems less secure than Wikipedia.
2014-07-24 16:28:00

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Dragonvarsity
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Yes, Thor 3 is confirmed, although I wouldn't trust IMDB as a source for that, personally. Like Wikipedia, anyone can enter information in for it, although from what I've seen, it also seems less secure than Wikipedia.

But has anyone ever done it? I go to those sites all the time and no one ever edits something weird or off-topic into it.
2014-07-24 17:37:00

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But has anyone ever done it? I go to those sites all the time and no one ever edits something weird or off-topic into it.

Famously, 50 cent was going to voice Epona in Twilight Princess.

But yeah.


I don't think there's another person in the Marvel universe with the potential to show Loki the true power of the Teseract, other than the one guy who, without a doubt, knows the power of the Infinity Stones. Besides, I don't think lines of dialogue like "Who controls the would-be-king?" were in the first Avengers to mislead the audience.

Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt that Thanos was the one who saved Loki and made the deal. Seems kind of done and done.

However, Loki failed in that mission and went AWOL, but is now in possession of the Tesserract due to controlling Asgard, so I'd like to see that be recognized.
2014-07-24 17:41:00

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Wally, the fact that Thor 3 is about Ragnar?k is already confirmed. There's arguing about the fact.

Sorry, I wasn't arguing, I just wanted to clarify the source since I hadn't seen an official word on it. And I googled after I posted it, so I'm up-to-date.

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And I want to clear up the misconceptions about wikipedia because it's heavily moderated; if someone puts up information without a reliable source, it usually gets taken down.

Phase 2 seems to be getting better with each film, definately watching GOTG.
2014-07-24 17:52:00

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http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/07/Ant-Man-Comic-Con-poster.jpg

Yes

Also

http://screenrant.com/marvel+studios-2018-release-dates/

May 4th 2018 will also have a movie.

So three movies in 2017 and 2018.

Wow
2014-07-24 18:00:00

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RockSauron
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Hmm... seems like they are moving onto the "three-movies-a-year" thing. I won't complain, because the rumor that audiences "get fed up with superheroes" that some critics are on about it absolute bollocks. After the Avengers I think it became an unofficial truth that superhero movies are not just action movies based on old comic books, but instead their very own genre. Yes, they are part of the bigger action-movie landscape, but apart from that what is left to tell of these movies individually is anyone's guess, especially with the Guardians of the Galaxy bringing a whole new dimension into the realm of possibilities.

That's how I see it, anyway.
2014-07-25 00:03:00

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FreeAim
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I just hope they manage to maintain the delicate balance of making the movies interesting, while keeping the stories serial, while keeping the stories self contained enough. Very delicate balance, that2014-07-25 00:43:00

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RockSauron
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If Marvel owned the rights to all it's characters, I'd definitely say that Audiences wouldn't get tired, they'd be able to keep the balance as DC only seems to make one film every three years. But Marvel's going to step up production (Because it can and I'm happy) but Fox is going to follow suit, DC will attempt the same thing if it builds enough ground. + A spiderman every two years (although his future is uncertain). It would saturate the market. DAFP is a critical/commercial success (I haven't seen it) so Fox might finally start producing decent Marvel films and spiderman might stop generating money or completely disappear (possibly allowing a return to Marvel?) so it play out better than I'd expect.

This is of course, in my opinion.

Also, 2018 has to be Avengers 3
2014-07-26 10:44:00

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wally-217
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Ah, yes, DAFP. Days af Future Past was good. X-Men will probably go strong after its success, but I'm really hoping they wouldn't keep making Wolverine movies, especially without any gore (because that's just boring). Amazing Spider-man franchise will probably crash and burn sometime in the near future, especially given how little plans there are for the franchise to begin it. DC will make money of Batman V Superman, but something tells me they'll have to do some serious restructuring to keep that train going (nobody wants to wait three years between movies that don't work as films of their own).

Marvel is the only one that seems to have found a staple way of producing these movies so far. I'm guessing X-Men is next to find their ground, followed by DC (if they don't just reboot the universe again) and finally, I think Amazing Spider-mans won't go beyond the third movie, which will cause Sony to reboot it for one last time in case Marvel starts asking for its toys back. Just my thoughts.
2014-07-26 14:41:00

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FreeAim
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Speaking of Cinematic Universes, Universal is trying to do that with their monsters.

I know they did that back in the olden days already, but I can't really think about how it'd work nowadays... Would they just keep appearing in each others movies? That might not be enough for a cinematic universe... What kind of build up would they have between movies? Hm.

Also, Guardians of the Galaxy is looking to be both awesome and hilarious. Everyone loves it. EVERYONE
2014-07-26 14:45:00

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RockSauron
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So, two big news from Comic Con.

1. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was confirmed for July 2017

2. A bunch of scenes from Avengers 2 was shown. Unfortunately, it wasn't leaked online, so we have to deal with second hand reports. Speaking of which, second hand reports:

http://io9.com/avengers-age-of-ultron-footage-shatters-our-worlds-and-1611553600

So that leak from a while ago was accurate. Cool.

And the info sounds awesome and stuff.
2014-07-28 15:56:00

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RockSauron
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Awesome! Avengers 2 has to out-gross the first, surely. I'm predicting $1.8bn at the minimum.2014-07-29 02:29:00

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wally-217
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I'm actually guessing that, mostly due to the massive marketing, Guardians of the Galaxy will blast away all expectations and earn Marvel at least like so many money.2014-07-29 14:33:00

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FreeAim
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Sci-fi [Space Opera] movies tend not to gross that much at the box office though. But carrying the Marvel Label and having nearly unanimously positive reviews, I'd expect it to add a couple hundred million to it's gross. Maybe hitting $600mil, it might even out-gross The Winter Soldier.

I'd also like to add an upper limit of $2.2bn on my A2 estimate.

*EDIT*
GOTG Prediction (http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/guardians-galaxy-movie-gets-11-billion-predicted-gross)
Deadpool Test Footage (http://www.thedevilseyes.com/2014/07/deadpool-leaked-test-footage-ryan-reynolds.html)
Age Of Ultron Footage [possible Spoilers] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=u1g3Uwd2iEQ)
2014-07-29 20:58:00

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wally-217
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I've been talking about this movie's success so much that I really don't have the energy to keep repeating myself. Let's just say that once this movie's opening weekend has passed it'll be no surprise to anyone that they have already announced the sequel.2014-07-30 12:50:00

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FreeAim
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I'm off to see it at the weekend hopefully. Might also see dotpota if one of my friends is willing... I hate that title so much, even the acronym is long.2014-07-30 20:50:00

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wally-217
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I don't think there is anything quite as annoying in the life of a movie critic as having to go with the masses on few particular movies that are, for all intents and purposes, exceptionally great, especially since this causes unnamed masses to throw out the word "bias" without having the knowledge of what the word actually means in the first place. It is not my fault that Amazing Spider-man movies have been diabolical, boring and terribly poor in every sense of quality. It is also not my fault that X-Men movies fail to move forward in time and they still have characters jumping around in leather body-suits, which were maybe cool in the early 2000's. In addition, I'd like to add that just because Man of Steel was a disappointment, doesn't mean I don't look forward to Batman V Superman. I dread that movie's arrival for completely other reasons.

Then, there are Marvel studios, which keep throwing good movies into the pile and their latest addition, Guardians of the Galaxy... is probably the best of these movies to date. I say probably, because I only saw it once AND Winter Soldier's DVD won't be out till September. It was really no surprise that the movie would turn out great, given all the promotional material we've got. There are not many blockbusters that are not completely drowned in darker sub-themes with no pay-off or in which the main focus isn't a moribund life-lesson-worthy code that just exists to bring down the audience's excitement.

The main strength of this movie is the titular team itself. The characters that are in the Guardians of the Galaxy are the film's main focus and they all carry themselves well as characters. It's no exaggeration to say that Chris Pratt ranks up there with other MCU stars such as Robert Downey Junior and Chris Evans. The Star-Lord, as a character, is a ten-year-old child's fantasy of a cool space hero and Pratt is completely invested in making it work as well as it does work here. Zoe Saldana kicks butt as Gamora and gets surprisingly much out of her role, considering that her character's main trait is being introverted.

Bradley Cooper and Vin Diesel are a spectacular duo, latter of which won't probably ever get enough respect for absolutely owning the role of a sentient tree. His tone of voice and all the minor details of the voice work really bring out Groot's personality and make him a character that can stand on his own, despite the main trope of the character being that he and Rocket are a team. Oh, and that's not to undermine Cooper's Rocket, who is easily the flagship character of this movie. He's as awesome as one would expect and surprisingly it's no surprise. The surprise is David Batista as Drax the Destroyer, who starts off as a tough-guy alien person and ends up being the film's genuinely most grounded person, without losing any of the charisma and fun that other characters in the movie also have.

Most often the criticisms go to the villain duo of Ronan and Nebula and while I can see why, I don't personally think there is an issue with them. The characters are not like Malekith, where they are mainly cackling villains with no personality. Their motives are made very clear, we get a clear sense of what they can do and they have the real intensity that makes them work as the villains of this story. If I would have to pick a weak link, I honestly can't say anyone, because to be honest, there aren't any weak links as far as the acting is concerned.

If you are one of those hypocritical movie critics that can't enjoy movies that are noticeably parts of something bigger and better than themselves, but somehow can do that when the movie simply doesn't work on its own (*cough* Confused Matthew *cough*), then you probably should go back to watching the Amazing Spider-man franchise. I don't want to directly point this at anyone (except for Confused Matthew), but the fact that there is such a thing as cinematic universe doesn't mean the end of standalone cinema and there is no harm in having movies be interconnected, as long as said movies work as independent pieces of film-making. Guardians of the Galaxy does that more than well, with only few (minor) characters that appear in previous Marvel movies.

Ultimately, as far as sci-fi movies are concerned, I find it no exaggeration to think that the closest comparison point for this one is probably Star Wars (the original trilogy). I won't talk about the end credits scene myself, because its nature was spoiled for me by another critic and I know exactly how annoying it would be. As a movie, though, this is an exciting, unique ride from beginning to the very end and I feel no shame in giving this movie all the praise it could ever deserve. My only negative thing about the movie is that I can't ultimately escape all the sighs that are followed by me giving this movie the following score:

10/10
2014-08-01 21:14:00

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FreeAim
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Bias.2014-08-01 22:12:00

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Rabid-Coot
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I think I spoiled the post credits scene for myself.

I am equal parts disappointed and amazed.
2014-08-01 22:12:00

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RockSauron
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[Review]
I thoroughly enjoyed reading this as it also reflects A lot of my views.

I should probably have started by saying, I saw the movie today!
I can't actually rate the movie because there's nothing on my mind I've never seen anything like it before. When I was watching it I imagined it was how a teen/child would have felt watching the original Star Wars in the cinema back in the 70's. The visual effects got better throughout the film and the casting was nigh perfect.

I avoided all spoilers so I the post-credits scene was a pleasant surprise (I was expecting a little more) but it was nice to see that even parents were staying with their kids through the credits.
I can't believe they introduced one of the most powerful villains in the Marvel universe, I bet he's going to be the main antagonist for Avengers 3, or at least get a reboot movie.
2014-08-03 03:25:00

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wally-217
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Just wanted to say this quick, I have watched it twice, and for me Guardians of the galaxy was the best current marvel movie. For me, (I am a huge comic book reader) I am always fascinated by all those 'little things'. Without trying to spoil anything for people who haven't seen the film yet. It's amazing how far in advance they plan the other movies and tie in just single props to a character... with the collection that the collector has, it's funny seeing some key items from other famous characters prop up throughout the film...2014-08-03 19:19:00

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The Sexy Sack Man
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I saw Guardians of the Galaxy yesterday with some friends. I think it's a very well made film, and one of the best in the MCU. I'm just hoping they expand the Cosmic part and add Nova and Captain Marvel to the universe (Nova having much more of a chance since Nova Corps was already introduced in GotG). Maybe they could even do Annihilation in MCU? Just a thought.2014-08-03 20:48:00

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amoney1999
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Just saw

Was awesome.

Yes.
2014-08-03 21:29:00

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RockSauron
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So it made a little money http://variety.com/2014/film/news/box-office-guardians-of-the-galaxy-astounds-with-160-4-mil-global-debut-1201274534/2014-08-03 22:20:00

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Rabid-Coot
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I saw Guardians of the Galaxy yesterday with some friends. I think it's a very well made film, and one of the best in the MCU. I'm just hoping they expand the Cosmic part and add Nova and Captain Marvel to the universe (Nova having much more of a chance since Nova Corps was already introduced in GotG). Maybe they could even do Annihilation in MCU? Just a thought.

It could be incredible if they decided to adapt Annihilation, and a nice way to segue into a new "arc" once the Thanos one concludes; especially if both Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans really don't feel like continuing to reprise their respective roles after the latter (which would be a shame if such is the case, but understandable). I can already imagine the stinger at the end of Avengers 3 after the big, universe shaking battle with Thanos revealing a tear in deep space into the Negative Zone with Annihilus and the Annihilation Wave coming through.

We already have Thanos, the Guardians of the Galaxy, Ronan and the rest of the Kree Empire, as well as the Nova Corp already officially in the MCU and it wouldn't be hard to introduce the likes of Moondragon and Quasar to round out the cast. They could even bring Ultron into the fold if they want to do Annihilation: Conquest as well and though we don't yet know if either he or Thanos will survive their respective outings as main antagonists it's not like either hasn't died and come back in the comics multiple times.

The only problems I see in adapting these stories is that Annihilus, the Skrulls, Galactus, the Silver Surfer and the other heralds of Galactus are heavily tied to the Fantastic Four franchise, whose film rights are still owned by 20th Century Fox and not Marvel Studios/Disney. Then again, other than Annihilus, I suppose these characters aren't essential to the story and the cast would probably start getting really bloated if they actually did include everyone.
2014-08-04 03:35:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


It could be incredible if they decided to adapt Annihilation, and a nice way to segue into a new "arc" once the Thanos one concludes; especially if both Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans really don't feel like continuing to reprise their respective roles after the latter (which would be a shame if such is the case, but understandable). I can already imagine the stinger at the end of Avengers 3 after the big, universe shaking battle with Thanos revealing a tear in deep space into the Negative Zone with Annihilus and the Annihilation Wave coming through.

We already have Thanos, the Guardians of the Galaxy, Ronan and the rest of the Kree Empire, as well as the Nova Corp already officially in the MCU and it wouldn't be hard to introduce the likes of Moondragon and Quasar to round out the cast. They could even bring Ultron into the fold if they want to do Annihilation: Conquest as well and though we don't yet know if either he or Thanos will survive their respective outings as main antagonists it's not like either hasn't died and come back in the comics multiple times.

The only problems I see in adapting these stories is that Annihilus, the Skrulls, Galactus, the Silver Surfer and the other heralds of Galactus are heavily tied to the Fantastic Four franchise, whose film rights are still owned by 20th Century Fox and not Marvel Studios/Disney. Then again, other than Annihilus, I suppose these characters aren't essential to the story and the cast would probably start getting really bloated if they actually did include everyone.

There was a rumor I heard for Age of Ultron that the Avenger's couldn't kill Ultron, so instead they put him on a ship (or something), and had the Hulk project him and Ultron into space so Ultron couldn't harm the Earth. Again, it's just a rumor, but it would be interesting to see Ultron land on say Xandar or Sakaar. I also saw this rumor leak, showing possible Phase 3 and 4 films. One of them was World War Hulk, and they even had stuff like Black Panther and Inhumans on it. It even had possible names for some other films, like the third Captain America being called Fallen Son, the third Thor being called Ragnarok, the GotG sequel being called War of the Kings, and the Avengers sequel interestingly called Civil War. Again, this isn't official, and the leak was probably fake, but it's something interesting I found while browsing the internet. I will post a link once I find it.

edit: Found it: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-future-of-marvel-2014-8
2014-08-04 03:54:00

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amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Sorry for bumping into all of you nerds discussion but..

just wanted to input my two cents on GAOTG which I saw recently: I thought that, even though the Avengers had more hype and ****zle, Guardians of the Galaxy was just as good if not better.

No doubt in my mind Avengers 2 will make more money and have even better effects than GAOTG, which had mindblowing technology in it.
2014-08-04 14:38:00

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DominationMags
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Sorry for bumping into all of you nerds discussion but..

just wanted to input my two cents on GAOTG which I saw recently: I thought that, even though the Avengers had more hype and ****zle, Guardians of the Galaxy was just as good if not better.

No doubt in my mind Avengers 2 will make more money and have even better effects than GAOTG, which had mindblowing technology in it.

ONE OF US. ONE OF US

But yeah, GOTG may have been better than Avengers. And it doesn't seem to be doing too poorly for a film many people thought would bomb.
2014-08-04 16:41:00

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RockSauron
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There was a rumor I heard for Age of Ultron that...

False rumours. Numerous people have stated that a Planet Hulk/WWH isn't in development. It may come further down the line but don't expect it for phase 3 (and probably not phase 4 either). The image on the second link is fake as well, they're fan-made.


Sorry for bumping into all of you nerds discussion but..

You might like to that size 2 is the standard font size, size 1 is what you were looking for.
2014-08-04 19:05:00

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wally-217
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Saw Guardians of the Galaxy the other day, loved it loved it loved it.

No doubt in my mind that I liked it better than the Avengers. The banter and whatnot was fun and clever like in the Avengers, only they actually got things accomplished instead of "capture bad guy, bad guy stupidly escapes, fight bad guy somewhere in New York." I also just liked the freshness of it all, as well as the effects and the soundtrack, and most of the characters just genuinely seemed more interesting to me. Plus cosmic Marvel, woo.
2014-08-04 19:08:00

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Dragonvarsity
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False rumours. Numerous people have stated that a Planet Hulk/WWH isn't in development. It may come further down the line but don't expect it for phase 3 (and probably not phase 4 either). The image on the second link is fake as well, they're fan-made.


That's why I said it wasn't official. It was just an interesting look on what the future of the MCU could possibly be like. Yes, I know it's fake, but it's still cool to see what ideas Marvel could possibly have.
2014-08-04 20:08:00

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amoney1999
Posts: 1202


That's why I said it wasn't official. It was just an interesting look on what the future of the MCU could possibly be like. Yes, I know it's fake, but it's still cool to see what ideas Marvel could possibly have.

OK, sorry. I'm just... Still disappointing that Planet Hulk wasn't planned for phase four. But GOTG's doing well with it's multicolour alien cast, so my hopes are improving for the green guy.
2014-08-04 20:18:00

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wally-217
Posts: 521


Saw it again today!

Still thinking the same I did previously.

Might see it again again... if I'll grow balls and ask this girl out to the movies that is. Otherwise I probably won't see it third time, at least anytime soon.
2014-08-04 21:06:00

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FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Saw it again today!

Still thinking the same I did previously.

Might see it again again... if I'll grow balls and ask this girl out to the movies that is. Otherwise I probably won't see it third time, at least anytime soon.

Oh, Freeaim has a little crush? Bow chicka bow wow.

Well, me no good at romance so I can't tell you to do it.

But what I can say is GOTG

Also, Avengers 3.

If it has The GOTG.

We'd have the six original avengers, plus Antman and Dr. Strange, plus maybe Black Panther and Captain Marvel, plus Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, plus Vision, plus the Guardians of the Galaxy, plus the additions to the Guardians of the Galaxy we're probably getting in the sequel. that's not including maybe War Machine/Iron Patriot, Falcon, Bucky, and other people who may be in, maybe.

At any rate, it will certainly exceed 15 heroes, if not 20.

AND it would need to culminate the Infinity Stone plotline into a satisfying conclusion.

Possible?
2014-08-04 21:23:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Oh, Freeaim has a little crush? Bow chicka bow wow.

Well, me no good at romance so I can't tell you to do it.

But what I can say is GOTG

Also, Avengers 3.

If it has The GOTG.

We'd have the six original avengers, plus Antman and Dr. Strange, plus maybe Black Panther and Captain Marvel, plus Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, plus Vision, plus the Guardians of the Galaxy, plus the additions to the Guardians of the Galaxy we're probably getting in the sequel. that's not including maybe War Machine/Iron Patriot, Falcon, Bucky, and other people who may be in, maybe.

At any rate, it will certainly exceed 15 heroes, if not 20.

AND it would need to culminate the Infinity Stone plotline into a satisfying conclusion.

Possible?

Three hours. I'm guessing the following: Vision and the Maximoff twins will not be seen outside of Avengers 2. I also doubt we'll get Black Panther, so the only new heroes will be Strange and Ant-man (and maybe the Wasp). I'm also guessing that War Machine won't return as an Avenger in Avengers 3. Then, depending on how this movie universe progresses, we'll see one or the other: Bucky or Cap in the third Avengers movie, but I highly doubt we'll see both of them.

That's what I guess. People are going to die soon. Many people.
2014-08-04 23:24:00

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FreeAim
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That's what I guess. People are going to die soon. Many people.

And then come back to life because comics are stupid.

Also, I don't want Steve Rogers to die until he stands up to Thanos and saves the universe from this "bully".

Then Avengers 3 will end with Bucky donning the outfit in honor of his fallen friend.

This is my head canon and nothing can change this.
2014-08-04 23:40:00

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RockSauron
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I told my mate that "They introduce one of the most powerful villains in the marvel universe after the credits" - and he went to see it yesterday thinking that was true... Judging by the facebook messages, I'd say he's a little annoyed...

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130216073640/survivor/images/7/73/Trollface.png
2014-08-05 14:19:00

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wally-217
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http://i.imgur.com/tErcq.gif


.....


I'm sorry.
2014-08-06 04:03:00

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Dragonvarsity
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http://i.imgur.com/tErcq.gif
I'm sorry.

Someone's posted that before I'm sure of it.
2014-08-06 21:59:00

Author:
wally-217
Posts: 521


Finally caught up on all the pages...

Anyway, I saw the film Monday afternoon, and it was awesome. I really want to see it again, and I'm all ready for the sequel =D

That being said, I hope GotG is a success.
2014-08-07 11:38:00

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Raku
Posts: 292


Finally caught up on all the pages...

Anyway, I saw the film Monday afternoon, and it was awesome. I really want to see it again, and I'm all ready for the sequel =D

That being said, I hope GotG is a success.

It is. Its opening weekend became the third most successful out of all movie this year. In fact, it's probably the second most successful, since nobody knows exactly how much the folks behind Trans4mers cheated (because that film had to earn at least 100 million on its opening weekend to keep the staff members employed and apparently it didn't).
2014-08-07 12:05:00

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FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Marvel has become the epitome of quality fun films.

Their brand name is worth the price of admission, at this point.
2014-08-07 20:35:00

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RockSauron
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I am groot2014-08-07 21:19:00

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flamingemu
Posts: 1872


We Are Groot


We... Are... Groot...
2014-08-08 16:09:00

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wally-217
Posts: 521


I am groot

So what? It's not like you were open to do anything but to like this movie anyway, since you find the best character to be the one with the least expansive vocabulary.
2014-08-08 22:34:00

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FreeAim
Posts: 2462


So... Agents of Shield Season 2 soon.

whee
2014-08-08 22:38:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


So what? It's not like you were open to do anything but to like this movie anyway, since you find the best character to be the one with the least expansive vocabulary.

I... am... groot?
2014-08-08 23:56:00

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flamingemu
Posts: 1872


So... Agents of Shield Season 2 soon.

whee

Well, to be fair the show really improved in quality about halfway through the season when they had the Winter Soldier tie-in. I just hope they keep building on top of all the shakeups of the status quo and avoiding backstepping.
2014-08-10 02:59:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


Oh I agree, that's just how I talk.2014-08-10 03:02:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I... am... groot?

Is that your response to everything? Oh, boo-hoo! Grow up you stupid tree!
2014-08-10 11:45:00

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FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Is that your response to everything? Oh, boo-hoo! Grow up you stupid tree!

Vin Diesel does not approve.
2014-08-10 16:10:00

Author:
wally-217
Posts: 521


The Winter Soldier is way better than I expected, which kinda makes me regret not going to the movies to watch it. Until now I thought Captain America was the most boring Avenger besides Thor. TWS definitely changed that.

Maybe he just needed a character like Black Widow to serve as his foil. Or a storyline that wasn't a black-and-white battle between absolute good and absolute evil.

This week I'm finally going to watch Guardians of the Galaxy.
2014-08-15 00:40:00

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SnipySev
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The Winter Soldier is way better than I expected, which kinda makes me regret not going to the movies to watch it. Until now I thought Captain America was the most boring Avenger besides Thor. TWS definitely changed that.

Maybe he just needed a character like Black Widow to serve as his foil. Or a storyline that wasn't a black-and-white battle between absolute good and absolute evil.

This week I'm finally going to watch Guardians of the Galaxy.

Phase 2 movies (imo) just get better and better with each film. The Winter soldier was a superb action film without the marvel setting and Guardians of the Galaxy is just wonderfully awesome. Avengers 2 will probably be the first time I've ever seen a film twice at the cinema.

I warn you though, the first two minutes of GotG is pretty emotionally intense.
2014-08-16 01:25:00

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wally-217
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Saw Guardians today. It was pretty good. Exactly the lighthearted space opera sci-fi romp I wanted. Most sci-fi movies have gotten so darn serious and gloomy as of late, watching one that goes against the trend is pretty refreshing. I have some nitpicks, though.

What exactly was the point of the Collector? Is he a guy who collects stuff just for the sake of collecting it? What exactly was he aspiring to accomplish with the Infinity MacGuffin? I expected him to be more important. Instead we just meet him for 5 minutes, he screws up and never shows up again except for the post-credits scene.

Also, did anyone else feel like the movie went at too fast a pace for its own good? They introduced so much exposition so fast - the Kree and Nova Empires, the ravagers, the peace treaty, Ronan and Thanos, the backstory behind the Infinity Stones... It was hard to care about all that important lore when it was explained in a matter of seconds. I don't even remember how the Infinity Stones were created. Apparently it didn't matter much.

Then there's the fact that it doesn't take long for the companions to tell their life stories to complete strangers. Nor does it take very long for them to transition from wanting to kill each other to having a reluctant and fragile partnership to being buddies who'd die in battle together. That aspect could have used more character development.

Then again, I'm sure Guardians is the kind of movie that becomes much better if they make some kind of Extended Cut. Judging by the trailers, a lot of scenes were cut from the movie.

I feel like some movies as of late try to tell too much in too little time (except for the Hobbit which does exactly the opposite). And because of that they end up sacrificing something. Either character development (Guardians), action (Pacific Rim) or pacing (Man of Steel).
2014-09-04 20:41:00

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SnipySev
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Well, in the comics, the Collector is the last of his species, given immortality by Celestials in order to preserve his species. Immortality is boring, so he decided to spend the time collecting. They could have explored that a bit more here, but I'm sure they will in future movies.2014-09-04 21:53:00

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RockSauron
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I didn't have that problem; I had some knowledge of the Lore before watching it, most of what you mentioned was new to me but I took it all in quite easily, (I wish I got a longer look at the infinity stones to see what the others look like in the MCU). I don't really nitpick with films though, especially if I'm watching it in the cinema, I sink back as far as I can into the chair and just enjoy it. Godzilla is the only film I've nitpicked because it bored me to hell, the pacing was so slow I just kept scanning the entire scene in many cases. When stuff was actually happening, I did try to enjoy it but it just didn't work for me.

And the Collector is older than the universe and the last of his kind (As RockSauron said) which is why he has such a big collection. I'd heard of the Kree before (the blue alien who was used to bring back Agent Coulson was rumoured to be a Kree). I just get a warm fuzzy cloud when I remember the film so it's hard for me to say anything bad about it though. The only nitpick I had was the ending. I half-expected it so I wasn't too bothered. You have an insanely powerful Ronan who they spend a good few minutes trying to defeat without without so much as a scratch but they get the orb and 1hit-Kill him. I didn't expect anything else but it was a bit anti-climatic, for me. It was the one thing that worried me about them introducing the cosmic side and these incredibly powerful beings.
2014-09-04 23:00:00

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wally-217
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I think Chloe Bennet (who plays Skye on SHIELD) confirmed that the alien that appeared in the show was in fact a Kree. This all does make me wonder how far Marvel will take it with its cosmic stuff. Will we ever see the Celestials make a proper appearance rather than just as recorded footage or a severed head? Power amplifying artifacts aside, in the comics they're actually more powerful than Thanos, certainly as a collective, though probably individually as well.

Speaking of Thanos, considering his presence there's a high possibility that Death will show up also. On that matter, I really do hope they keep the Thanos-Death relationship the same as in the classic Starlin stories because it would make Thanos not only the gravest threat in the MCU but also give him greater depth than just about every MCU villain to date. As much as I love the MCU I can't help but find most of the villains to have rather uninteresting motives (usually a lust for power or revenge) and as much as I enjoyed Got, Ronan wasn't really different in this regard.
2014-09-06 18:32:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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I think Chloe Bennet (who plays Skye on SHIELD) confirmed that the alien that appeared in the show was in fact a Kree. This all does make me wonder how far Marvel will take it with its cosmic stuff. Will we ever see the Celestials make a proper appearance rather than just as recorded footage or a severed head? Power amplifying artifacts aside, in the comics they're actually more powerful than Thanos, certainly as a collective, though probably individually as well.

Speaking of Thanos, considering his presence there's a high possibility that Death will show up also. On that matter, I really do hope they keep the Thanos-Death relationship the same as in the classic Starlin stories because it would make Thanos not only the gravest threat in the MCU but also give him greater depth than just about every MCU villain to date. As much as I love the MCU I can't help but find most of the villains to have rather uninteresting motives (usually a lust for power or revenge) and as much as I enjoyed Got, Ronan wasn't really different in this regard.

Well, the actor playing Thanos already said that his love of Death and her banishment of him to the friendzone is what drove him to really love the character of Thanos, so I'd say it's pretty likely that they're keeping that aspect of him. It'd take some tricky writing to make it work on screen but it's probably doable.
2014-09-06 18:41:00

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RockSauron
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Well, in the end-credits scene for the Avengers, the guy speaking to Thanos says "To challenge them is to court death," with Thanos turning to smile right after. I have to assume that that was a hint about them bringing Mistress Death in.2014-09-06 19:02:00

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Dragonvarsity
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I'd like to think, at this moment in time, anything is fair game. Guardians of the Galaxy has certainly helped that (Currently tracking at $560,217,000). My only concern is Ant Man; hopefully it does well but it's my least anticipated upcoming MCU film and It's release is to close to Avengers 2 for me to want to see it. That being said, the cosmic side has proved it's worth so if Ant Man fails, we could still see more cosmics.2014-09-06 19:25:00

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wally-217
Posts: 521


At this point I believe even the least anticipated MCU movies are going to be a success.2014-09-06 22:32:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Well, in the end-credits scene for the Avengers, the guy speaking to Thanos says "To challenge them is to court death," with Thanos turning to smile right after. I have to assume that that was a hint about them bringing Mistress Death in.

It was obviously a reference to that plotline, but that doesn't necessarily mean Death will be a physical entity in the story just by that.
2014-09-09 17:29:00

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RockSauron
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Never, back in the 90s when I was reading "Thanos Quest," "The Infinity Gauntlet," "The Infinity War," and "The Infinity Crusade" did I ever think I would see a movie about the infinity gems, let alone have them tie an entire Marvel Universe series of movies together including Thanos and Adam Warlock (yes, Adam is on his way to the big screen. Did you see his cameos in Thor 2 and GotG?).

My only* disappointment is that Avengers 2 can't be Atlantis Attacks, because Namor is one of my all time favorite Marvel anti-heroes and that could have set him up as an antagonist in Avengers 2 and an Avenger in Avengers 3. Also I wish Fox would be more cooperative with Disney, because everyone wants to see a Hulk vs Wolverine movie.

Speaking of Hulk, with Banner and Stark being pals, I was disappointed that he wasn't in Iron Man 3. It felt like a missed opportunity.

*: okay, so "only" was the wrong word to use...
2014-09-11 16:28:00

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DreadRandal
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Technically, Banner WAS in Iron Man 3...

I would like a "Science Buddies" movie, though. RDJ and Mark Ruffalo have adopted that online apparently and were already friends before he became the Hulk

I just hope Thanos is defeated more climatically in this... Like, have everyone have to work together to defeat him. Have the final stand with all of the heroes against his godlike power actually work. I never read the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, but having it fail and ahving Adam Warlock fight him alone and then Nebula coming as just taking it... that sounds boring and stupid :/
2014-09-11 16:37:00

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RockSauron
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I just hope Thanos is defeated more climatically in this... Like, have everyone have to work together to defeat him. Have the final stand with all of the heroes against his godlike power actually work.
No need to worry yet, it's going to be a long way off; I expect in the 2020's, so yes, I don't think he'll be the main antagonist in GOTG2. But I've said the same thing as well, but I'll repeat myself here.

The problem with these types of villains is that there's no build up to them being defeated. One minute, they're overwhelming the protagonist(s) and the next, they're killed very quickly. I like fight scenes to be drawn out and personal in a way that shows emotion and pain. This is probably very biased but, for me, the King Kong Vs Three V-Rex's scene is a perfect example of what I mean. You can see how exhausted he is from fighting but he has no choice but to keep going because it's personal for him. I want to see Thanos weakened gradually over the fight, I want it to be devised and well crafted, I don't want some super-OP artefact/character to fall into the Avengers(or GOTG)'s possession that just annihilates Thanos instantly. Sorry for long rant.
2014-09-11 17:14:00

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wally-217
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Technically, Banner WAS in Iron Man 3...

I would like a "Science Buddies" movie, though. RDJ and Mark Ruffalo have adopted that online apparently and were already friends before he became the Hulk

I just hope Thanos is defeated more climatically in this... Like, have everyone have to work together to defeat him. Have the final stand with all of the heroes against his godlike power actually work. I never read the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, but having it fail and ahving Adam Warlock fight him alone and then Nebula coming as just taking it... that sounds boring and stupid :/

In the storyline it's actually a bit more complicated; it's established in Infinity Gauntlet that Thanos' only true weakness is self-defeatism. In spite of being strong and smart enough to accomplish almost anything he wants, Thanos knew subconsciously that he is ultimately unable to accomplish the one thing he truly desired and by association is unworthy of the power he sought to achieve it; in his own words "Who could have guessed that becoming god would prove to be such a hollow victory?"

This is also the reason why he always made fatal and completely avoidable strategic errors in his grand schemes that allowed the heroes to defeat him at all despite being completely outmatched and gave genuine justification for how someone who attained absolute power to somehow lose it in spite of everything being in his favor.

Granted, I don't really expect the films to follow this route (even later stories involving Thanos generally tended to ignore it) especially since I don't quite expect Thanos to have enough build up for it to work exactly.
2014-09-13 17:51:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gGX0ASNpqMY2014-09-16 11:09:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


So, anyone catch Agents of SHIELD earlier this week? Not a bad start and the fact that the main cast are effectively outlaws hunted by the very people they are trying to help suggests something more interesting than the sci-fi procedural last season mostly consisted of.

They also introduced a classic marvel villain, the Absorbing Man and adapted his character almost perfectly (I say almost because he actually comes off as a lot smarter than he is in the comics, where he's generally a dumb brute). The visual effects for his powers looked really good, especially when you consider its a basic cable show.

And man, seeing just how severe Fitz's damages really are was rough.

- - - - - - - - - -

So, anyone catch Agents of SHIELD earlier this week? Not a bad start and the fact that the main cast are effectively outlaws hunted by the very people they are trying to help suggests something more interesting than the sci-fi procedural last season mostly consisted of.

They also introduced a classic marvel villain, the Absorbing Man and adapted his character almost perfectly (I say almost because he actually comes off as a lot smarter than he is in the comics, where he's generally a dumb brute). The visual effects for his powers looked really good, especially when you consider its a basic cable show.

And man, seeing just how severe Fitz's damages really are was rough.
2014-09-27 21:35:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
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Yeah, I saw it. It was cool.

Never really knew too much about him before but I liked that he was smart enough to realize not to touch it with his bare hands.
2014-09-27 21:43:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Agents of Shield has gotten REALLY good

Also, they just announced the first trailer for Avengers 2 will be shown during next week's episode so yeah
2014-10-22 03:04:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Agents of Shield has gotten REALLY good

Also, they just announced the first trailer for Avengers 2 will be shown during next week's episode so yeah

Season 2 doesn't start until the 24th October (this friday) in the UK. Which is annoying. I hope it is good, the only reason I watched season 1 was because it's set in the MCU.

In other news, Guardians of the Galaxy is now Marvel's third-highest grossing film.
2014-10-22 16:24:00

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wally-217
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Agents of Shield has gotten REALLY good

Also, they just announced the first trailer for Avengers 2 will be shown during next week's episode so yeah

Why bother waiting https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By4e12DxrjXQZ3FUaE0yVFlTSlU/view?pli=1
2014-10-22 23:33:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
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Well, that was rather awesome 2014-10-22 23:39:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Well, that was rather awesome


After watching that I really, really want a Hulk Buster. :kz:


and please don't tell me Hulk will have some sort of romance... I can't imagine that turning out well.
2014-10-23 03:36:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


Here's the official version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmeOjFno6Do

Pretty cool attitude on Marvel's part. They know there's just no stopping a leak once it's out, so they went "okay then, in that case you might as well see it in the proper quality right away". More companies should learn from their example.

EDIT: Them Pinocchio quotes gave me the creeps. Is this all about Ultron's quest to become a real boy?
2014-10-23 05:19:00

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SnipySev
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This trailer makes me more excited for the film! The only down to it in my opinion is Ultron's face. It looks a little... off.2014-10-23 22:29:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


and please don't tell me Hulk will have some sort of romance... I can't imagine that turning out well. Didn't you see Romanoff and the Hulk romantically touching hands


This trailer makes me more excited for the film! The only down to it in my opinion is Ultron's face. It looks a little... off. Personally, I love the face, purely for the fact that it is creepy, it is almost-human-like, there's something off about it that makes it more menacing I think, maybe he's too clean, there's no dirt on him, he looks like he's just been in a buffer.

Anyways, Agents of Shield Season 2 Premiered here today, can someone confirm that it gets better? I'm really not 'diggin' it at the moment.
2014-10-25 03:47:00

Author:
wally-217
Posts: 521


honestly I don't think it has, as someone who loves good tv and is relatively indifferent to the marvel universe, cinematic or otherwise. it does seem there are a lot of leads and baiting for the kind of fans who are well versed in this stuff though so if that's your thing you may find it gets better. in short as tv its passable but not memorable, though as part of a larger universe it probably is more interesting if you're into it. so far it seems to actually have a plot this season too which is always a plus. if you want to try, there are maybe 5 episodes state side ahead of UK which can be found online, might be worth trying say the next one to finish up the cliffhanger and decide if its for you. all that said, the fitz subplot is actually very well done and I plan to continue watching for that character almost alone at this point.
a quick spoiler free plot synopsis so far :
they're searching for the maggufin from episode one,
skyes father (this plot is were a lot of the hints for the larger universe seem to come in)
and coulson is drawing those symbols alot,
the main plot actually hasn't really progressed much at all now i think about it...
2014-10-25 11:21:00

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Smudge228
Posts: 533


10/10 for Ultron's robotic eyebrows.2014-10-25 19:05:00

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FreeAim
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http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--at3TaUWQ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/o2mz8rcppitfah3a2vkb.jpg

http://io9.com/marvel-debuts-their-new-phase-3-movies-including-capta-1651832265

woot! And WOW

also, the Cap 3 name up there was a fake out, it's actually Captain America: civil War
2014-10-28 20:24:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Always good to see more characters getting movies.2014-10-28 20:34:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Indeed. Was a bit disappointed there weren't more movie characters in time for Age of Ultron, personally.

and they're splitting up the two Avengers, too.

And Civil War confirmed. Hm
2014-10-28 20:36:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I know civil war ism't particularly liked because as someone that doesn't read comics it has caused enough moaning for me to see the discussions but maybe someone can build a good film out of it in a smaler universe.2014-10-28 20:43:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I know civil war ism't particularly liked because as someone that doesn't read comics it has caused enough moaning for me to see the discussions but maybe someone can build a good film out of it in a smaler universe.

The idea of it was good, but from what I hear they just made it bad. Like, they made Iron Man and the pro registration side's side too much of jerks and stuff. IDK. I see no reason why they can't make it work out well, though
2014-10-28 20:46:00

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RockSauron
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The idea of it was good, but from what I hear they just made it bad [ish]...IDK. I see no reason why they can't make it work out well, though

Pretty much this. The movies have done a decent job making themselves good on their own so as long as they don't suddenly feel like the source material is sacred, they can smooth out the wrinkles a bit.
2014-10-28 22:01:00

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xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGwuoYKhqx82014-10-29 12:11:00

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Rabid-Coot
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