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LBP Delayed... Worldwide..

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http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/10/17/littlebigplanet-delayed-in-europe/

From PS3 Fanboy:

"Uh-oh. LittleBigPlanet was due for release next week in Europe. Looks like plans are changing. According to GI.biz, Media Molecule's game is being recalled, and a new release date will be announced shortly. "Retailers are estimating the game may be delayed by three weeks until November 14."

According to our tipster Topsu, the cause for the delay may be due to a a song in the game's soundtrack, which quotes the Quran. Use of religious text in the game may be considered insensitive to some. We're currently investigating this story, and we'll update when we find out more."

Sucks...		2008-10-17 16:01:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

It's just data feed being wrong is what I've heard. I swear though, if this gets delayed by another 3 weeks, Sony are gonna have such a bad earful, something they've never heard the likes of.

I probably won't buy it if it takes another 3 weeks. Not being funny, but I have mocks, revision, wayy too much to play some game that Sony (yet again) turned into another bloody corporate pet.		2008-10-17 16:03:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

Better not be. Nearly all our releases are already after the US ones by several days to a week. Three weeks... 2008-10-17 16:05:00

Author:
flappybat
Posts: 6

... :eek:

Blank Post.		2008-10-17 16:08:00

Author:
Unknown User

The quote from gameindustry


The game was due for release next week, October 24, but now some retailers are estimating the game may be delayed by three weeks until November 14.

However, GamesIndustry.biz understands that the title may not suffer such a long delay to retail, and a new date is expected to be announced by Sony shortly.

So we only hope that it's not going to be like this.
I won't believe anything until it's from an official source.		2008-10-17 16:08:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

Curious, would this recall affect all of Europe? In other words, will the UK be affected as well? I only ask because I was under the impression the PSN Stores were split up between the UK and then the rest of Europe. Is this the case?2008-10-17 16:09:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

It's been updated.

14th is the new date.

I quit LBP. I'm not buying it.

EDIT :

Blame this SOB :

To: Sony Computer Entertainment & Media Molecule

While playing your latest game, "LittleBigPlanet" in the first level of the third world in the game (titled "Swinging Safari", I have noticed something strange in the lyrics of the music track of the level. When I listened carefully, I was surprised to hear some very familiar Arabic words from the Quran. You can listen to part of the track here:

mt14.quickshareit.com/share/p...lip22503c0.wav


The words are:

1- In the 18th second: "كل نفس ذائقة الموت" ("kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: 'Every soul shall have the taste of death&apos.

2- Almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "كل من عليها فان" ("kollo man alaiha fan", literally: 'All that is on earth will perish&apos.


I asked many of my friends online and offline and they heard the exact same thing that I heard easily when I played that part of the track. Certain Arabic hardcore gaming forums are already discussing this, so we decided to take action by emailing you before this spreads to mainstream attention.

We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending. We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online patch, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it.

We would also like to mention that this isn't the first time something like this happened in videogames. Nintendo's 1998 hit "Zelda: Ocarina of Time" contained a musical track with islamic phrases, but it was removed in later shipments of the game after Nintendo was contacted by Muslim organizations. Last year, Capcom's "Zack & Wiki" and Activision's "Call of Duty 4" also contained objectionable material offensive to Muslims that was spotted before the release of the final games, and both companies thankfully removed the content.

We hope you act immediately to avoid any confusion and unnecessary controversy, and we thank you for making such an amazing game.

Regards,
yasser
psn id : solid08		2008-10-17 16:12:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

I love how it was made in Europe and we're getting it last. SERIOUSLY.2008-10-17 16:14:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/10/17/littlebigplanet-delayed-in-europe/

From PS3 Fanboy:

"Uh-oh. LittleBigPlanet was due for release next week in Europe. Looks like plans are changing. According to GI.biz, Media Molecule's game is being recalled, and a new release date will be announced shortly. "Retailers are estimating the game may be delayed by three weeks until November 14."


There is now an update to that story:

"Update: The game is officially delayed until November 14th, and any copies that are already at retail are most likely being called back. A post on the PlayStation forums discusses the questioned song in detail."

Sucks is definitely not the word I would use. But I'm sure there are filters around, so I'll just second that.

I checked on amazon.ca, and either the delay and recall will not affect Canada, or amazon has not yet been notified.

Still, I can't believe that a game such as this one would be delayed (at what cost, I ask?) because of something that should be changeable by way of a downloadable patch, if there is something to change anyway.

Please keep us posted.		2008-10-17 16:16:00

Author:
hagarthelucky
Posts: 9

I have stickied this because it is very important to all Europeans. 2008-10-17 16:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

ONLY for Europe right?2008-10-17 16:17:00

Author:
Simplton
Posts: 63

Trying to find out if this affects AU & NZ as I believe we are considered EU for release regions now.

Oh well I guess I'll get it over night from PlayAsia or Amazon if this is the case.

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-17 16:17:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

I've had it with Sony. Honest to god, I hope they declare bankrupcy right now.2008-10-17 16:18:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

Sony may be bad but

Sony > EA

God I cannot stand EA.		2008-10-17 16:19:00

Author:
Simplton
Posts: 63

EA have stopped being **** recently.

and Sony generally are alright, just SCEE fail immensely.		2008-10-17 16:22:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

This had better not be true.2008-10-17 16:24:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

SCEE are the worst run company I've ever seen.

If I didn't love my Playstation as an item, I'd sell it this instant cause I'm fed up of all the crap we put up with from SCEE.		2008-10-17 16:25:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

I'm gonna move to the US just so I can get good service for my PS3.2008-10-17 16:29:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

Guys, I just found this. Good news...

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-216499.aspx


DarkZero: As some of you may have noticed both Asda and Zavvi have recently changed their date for the Euro release of LittleBigPlanet, with the game now bearing a November 14 date instead of the October 24th date we've all being expecting.

Thankfully, it seems this is not the case at all, as Sony have confirmed to us that "the UK release date for LittleBigPlanet is confirmed as 24th October," so it seems both sites somehow got their dates mixed up.		2008-10-17 16:30:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

That was posted yesterday, all this stuff has happened today 2008-10-17 16:31:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Guys, I just found this. Good news...

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-216499.aspx

Sounds positive, but we'll just have to see in the end I guess. It doesn't make since to delay the launch when they could simply patch it... No sense at all...		2008-10-17 16:31:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Wikipedia's release dates are:


NA: October 21st
PAL: October 22nd
JP & Asia: October 30th
UK & IRL: November 14th

I wonder if this is accurate? If so, why is the UK narrowed out?

EDIT: LOL. Wow. Thanks Forsaken. 		2008-10-17 16:32:00

Author:
Unknown User

Published: 23 hours ago

It's old news 		2008-10-17 16:34:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

(witty comment goes here)(not being posted cause I'll get in trouble)2008-10-17 16:34:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

O_o Yeah I just saw it. Thanks for the heads up Crowl...Weird.2008-10-17 16:36:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

So it's not being delayed, right?

I can unsticky this? 		2008-10-17 16:36:00

Author:
Unknown User

We don't know yet. Forsaken's post is nearly 24 hours old.2008-10-17 16:39:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

So it's not being delayed, right?

I can unsticky this?

No no keep it. Apparently the thing I just linked was written 1 day ago so yeah...But it's weird how they said it was November 14th yesterday, and the same thing today.

Nothing is official yet, I guess...		2008-10-17 16:40:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

It's a bit odd that Sony would deny a delay and less then a day later delay it.

Though this could be because SCEE and the other branches don't actually send each other information.		2008-10-17 16:42:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

...

*jumps off skyscraper on a cliff*		2008-10-17 16:42:00

Author:
Unknown User

Haha, this is so confusing. Sony, make up your minds already. 2008-10-17 16:43:00

Author:
Unknown User

why!?! Does anyone know what song it is?2008-10-17 16:43:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

Best be joking, buddy!!!
Original Thread (Link) (
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:BuPMgf6T4UIJ:community.eu.playstati on.com/playstationeu/board/message%3Fboard.id%3D611%26message.id%3D8388+%22ta pha+Niang%22+quran&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk)		2008-10-17 16:44:00

Author:
Unknown User

Just found this: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:BuPMgf6T4UIJ:community.eu.playstati on.com/playstationeu/board/message%3Fboard.id%3D611%26message.id%3D8388+%22ta pha+Niang%22+quran&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk2008-10-17 16:47:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

Just found this: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:BuPMgf6T4UIJ:community.eu.playstati on.com/playstationeu/board/message%3Fboard.id%3D611%26message.id%3D8388+%22ta pha+Niang%22+quran&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk

Yeah I think we already know about this >_>


Also, wow. 13 members viewing this thread XD

Edit: 15!!		2008-10-17 16:48:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

I am so angry right now...2008-10-17 16:50:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Did they really do all this just because one killjoy complained? Hmmmm, I'm just wondering whats gonna happen to all the OMG FIRST WEEK ONLY content we're supposed to be getting, knowing SCEE they'll be a million problems there.2008-10-17 16:50:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

Is this the song in question? YouTube - Ananda Shankar-Dancing Drums

Ananda Shankar-Dancing Drums		2008-10-17 16:51:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

So many things I want to say.. All I have to say now is, if it's delayed, they've lost a sale.2008-10-17 16:51:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

This is the song: Tapha Niang by Toumani Diabate's Symmetric Orchestra2008-10-17 16:52:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

Come on Sony it should be out in less then a week you can't **** **** up now.2008-10-17 16:54:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Sigh... oh well I'm used to Sony giving sub-par service to Europeans at this stage... what else is new. The question is why I still buy their products...

Ah it's not all that big of a deal, for me anyway. I have no holidays until just before Christmas so I'll probably just end up getting it when I get off for the holidays instead of on release. I'll have exams and assignments and stuff up until Christmas and I'll rarely be home with my PS3 for the weekend.

Anyway importing it will be cheaper and get here quicker than waiting to buy it on release day here.		2008-10-17 16:55:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

This is the exact section of the so called offending music from the game

http://mt14.quickshareit.com/share/preview/soundclip22503c0.wav

Taken from the original post by Solid 08

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-17 16:55:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

Wait why is it just europe? What about the US version!!! Its not fair!2008-10-17 16:56:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

Same crap as everytime, most people are just too stupid to recognize the things that happen in the game ONLY HAPPEN IN THE GAME.

Welcome to Europe, the land whose games sucks		2008-10-17 17:02:00

Author:
Unknown User

http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/17/confirmed-littlebigplanet-delayed-over-quran-expressions-scee-makes-statement/

Comfirmed delay. I hope that person feels good about himself.		2008-10-17 17:03:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I think the writer of that lyrics doesn't even know that he copied words from that holy book -.-'2008-10-17 17:06:00

Author:
Unknown User

SCEE has just confirmed that LittleBigPlanet has slipped because ?the game contains two expressions that can be found in the Qur?an? in one of the licensed background tracks, but has not supplied a new release date.

Let's hope it's not that far away....		2008-10-17 17:07:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

This is horrible. Why can't they just get a patch ready right quick to take the song out, and then just make sure future copies of the game ship out without the song on the disc????2008-10-17 17:08:00

Author:
Unknown User

Europeans - import the game from here if you wish to get it before the European release date:

http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?products_id=14364

You'll get it sooner and cheaper than if you waited until Nov. 14th.

Note - Any DLC will need to be downloaded from the US store. Including paid-for content. Make sure you have the means to buy items from the US store.		2008-10-17 17:08:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

Agreed with pillay. Just import it, guys...2008-10-17 17:10:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

Those thinking of importing, remember that for DLC content, you'd probably need to download them from the US PSN store.2008-10-17 17:11:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

This religion is running our world! NOw they have gone too far 2008-10-17 17:11:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

Those thinking of importing, remember that for DLC content, you'd probably need to download them from the US PSN store.
**** that's a good point... and I have no way to buy future DLC from the US store...		2008-10-17 17:13:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

[Moronic, ignorant, cretinous, unenlightened, indefensible, and unpardonable quick to respond and thoughtless comment removed]2008-10-17 17:15:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I'm done with it.

SR2 or bust for me now I guess.		2008-10-17 17:15:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

**** that's a good point... and I have no way to buy future DLC from the US store...

Sure you do just but a PSN network card from EBay like I do. The seller will email you the code you enter it in the redeem section of your US account managment and the funds are there for you to use in the US store.

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-17 17:17:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

Apparently the release date is being reconsidered worldwide:

http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/10/littlebigplanet-scees-official-statement/		2008-10-17 17:19:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

Source: http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/17/confirmed-littlebigplanet-delayed-over-quran-expressions-scee-makes-statement/

Update: Sony?s just confirmed that all discs are to be recalled on a global level. Hit this.

SCEE has just confirmed that LittleBigPlanet has slipped because ?the game contains two expressions that can be found in the Qur?an? in one of the licensed background tracks, but has not supplied a new release date.

The game was previously scheduled for an October 24 release.

VG247 has learned that the game is already at retail in both the UK and other European countries.

Heavy speculation has surrounded a slip this afternoon.

Sony just issued a statement on the matter:

During the review process prior to the release of LittleBigPlanet, it has been brought to our attention that one of the background music tracks licensed from a record label for use in the game contains two expressions that can be found in the Qur?an. We have taken immediate action to rectify this and we sincerely apologise for any offence that this may have caused.

We?ll confirm the new launch date shortly.

It's unclear at the moment if this means the game is to be completely recalled.		2008-10-17 17:21:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

If it is recalled and delayed surely they should at very least reopen the beta that lasts until the release that anyone can access? That would satisfy me I guess2008-10-17 17:25:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

What exactly would a recall entail? I've actually got my copy in hand, am going to have to send it back? Sorry if that sounds like a stupid question!

I'm surprised they aren't just patching it and removing it from future disks like most games would, it's going to cost them a lot of money to re-burn all those disks, right?		2008-10-17 17:27:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

If you have it you're keeping it. Recall is when they take back all the copies in shops and retailers.2008-10-17 17:28:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Thought so, thanks for the confirmation. Since it's a US copy it'd be a pain to get sent back!2008-10-17 17:30:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

Mods...Change the title. Make it worldwide now >_>2008-10-17 17:31:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

Yeah looks like that would be a good idea

Is there a way we can contact media molecule and ask if they can re open the beta due to this?		2008-10-17 17:32:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I just talked to Gamestop. They haven't got any info yet, as expected, but then again they are not on the frontlines here. He did say if there was a recall that it would be the first time that's ever happened [for what thats worth].2008-10-17 17:32:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

Why do you smite me, and all other Europeans, to wait another three weeks for release. Why, oh why?!?!? Sorry I needed somewhere to let out my anger. Anyone else feel the same, 'cause I feel pretty crazy right now.2008-10-17 17:33:00

Author:
mongoose7
Posts: 473

Mods...Change the title. Make it worldwide now >_>

The news I'm seeing is still related specifically to PAL countries. What am I missing?

EDIT: Nevermind. *Sheds a tear*		2008-10-17 17:34:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

It's not just europe it's worldwide 2008-10-17 17:34:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Really? Well then, anyone in the world can say if they feel the same!2008-10-17 17:35:00

Author:
mongoose7
Posts: 473

No, I won't change the title until we know for sure.

I really don't think the US is affected...		2008-10-17 17:35:00

Author:
Unknown User

Eurogamer


http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=262215

Sony has confirmed that it is delaying the release of LittleBigPlanet and recalling the game from retailers worldwide because it has identified "two expressions that can be found in the Qu'ran" in one of the background songs.



I knew I should have said screw the kratos gear and bought the game at target. I knew it..		2008-10-17 17:37:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

Its worldwide.... http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/10/littlebigplanet-scees-official-statement/2008-10-17 17:38:00

Author:
xsx89
Posts: 11

No, I won't change the title until we know for sure.

I really don't think the US is affected...

http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/10/littlebigplanet-scees-official-statement/

EDIT: Beaten by two people xD		2008-10-17 17:39:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I refuse to believe this..2008-10-17 17:41:00

Author:
Unknown User

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/littlebigplanet-release-delayed-in-europe

"The release of Sony's highly anticipated PlayStation 3 title LittleBigPlanet has been delayed worldwide. "


Blank!		2008-10-17 17:41:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I really don't see the point of recalling the game in non-Muslim countries. But hey that's the power of religion..2008-10-17 17:41:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

Why has this been moved from the news section? This is the worst news we've ever heard about this game!2008-10-17 17:41:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Im so angry I could drop kick a kitten into a babies face 2008-10-17 17:42:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/921/921009p1.html

Better believe it Marino...


Edit: Lmao Crowler xD		2008-10-17 17:42:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

Call me Crowler xD it's my nickname, it's where Crowlerzors comes from.

Thanks for moving it back.

EDIT: lol you edited it xD		2008-10-17 17:44:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

It's just data feed being wrong is what I've heard. I swear though, if this gets delayed by another 3 weeks, Sony are gonna have such a bad earful, something they've never heard the likes of.

I probably won't buy it if it takes another 3 weeks. Not being funny, but I have mocks, revision, wayy too much to play some game that Sony (yet again) turned into another bloody corporate pet.

Same here. And although it sounds sad to say it, i think it will take a hell of a lot more than 3 weeks. The music will have to be changed, new ones licensed, then it will have to go through QA, republishing and then going gold all again. I could see it taking a month minimum. Oh well. At least we arent sony. All those Blu-Ray discs going to waste...		2008-10-17 17:45:00

Author:
floor3013
Posts: 287

Honestly guys, no matter what, you shouldn't really get too discouraged by this. It'll delayed by a week or 2. SURE, we were veeeeeeery close 'till release but...There's really nothing you can do about it now.
Most of us have waited a whole year for this game. Some months. I'm sure you'll survive a week more than the official release date.		2008-10-17 17:46:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

I'm wondering if they can simply release a patch. Can you specifically censor someone's music like that? I mean, there's technically nothing being said that should be censored. At the end of the day, Media Molecule would be censoring artistic freedom. How ironic...

I really am bummed about this. They shouldn't recall it however. Just fix future copies; it's unacceptable for a company - SCEE in this case - to eat all of those costs when it should be perfectly acceptable to simply address future instances of the song.		2008-10-17 17:47:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Anyone have a way I can contact media molecule and try to persuade them to bring back the beta?2008-10-17 17:47:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

It has nothing to do with Media Molecule. It is all Sony. 2008-10-17 17:48:00

Author:
Unknown User

It's just data feed being wrong is what I've heard. I swear though, if this gets delayed by another 3 weeks, Sony are gonna have such a bad earful, something they've never heard the likes of.

I probably won't buy it if it takes another 3 weeks. Not being funny, but I have mocks, revision, wayy too much to play some game that Sony (yet again) turned into another bloody corporate pet.

You are sad if you refuse to buy it because it is delayed. Did you have any interest in the game to begin with? The date of the game doesn't change how fun the game will be.

And yes, sony will eat **** from gamers because of this, but it's better to eat some from a minority than getting a whole religion on your back asking for you to remove the game completly.

That's MUCH more worse than when the manchester church asked Sony to pull back Resistance.		2008-10-17 17:49:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

Anyone have a way I can contact media molecule and try to persuade them to bring back the beta?

Media Molecule have no control over the beta, it was all sony's work
But someone should make a petition to send to sony saying they should just make a patch		2008-10-17 17:50:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

Same here. And although it sounds sad to say it, i think it will take a hell of a lot more than 3 weeks. The music will have to be changed, new ones licensed, then it will have to go through QA, republishing and then going gold all again. I could see it taking a month minimum. Oh well. At least we arent sony. All those Blu-Ray discs going to waste...

I don't think they'll scrap some millions of dollars. They might just hold away the game until a patch is made. They must have printed millions of copies, and they were already shipped all around the world. Calling them back would be very expensive, and they would need to reprint the game and reship it. I don't think they'll take that solution, because it would be way too expensive for them. Better go to court and get sued for millions of dollars than wasting millions of dollars AND making gamers mad.		2008-10-17 17:53:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

We learnt yesterday that there is a lyric in one of the licensed tracks which some people may find offensive, and which slipped through the usual screening processes. Obviously MM and Sony together took this very seriously. LBP should be enjoyable by all. So within 12 hours of hearing about this issue involving a lyric (in Somalian, I believe!), we prepared an automatic day 0 patch and had a new disk image ready; however a decision was made within Sony that the right thing to do for quality and support of people with no on-line was to replace existing disks. They assure us that they are doing everything in their power to get things straightened out as fast as possible, and will announce dates soon.

So MM made a patch but sony rejected it. Source: http://n4g.com/ps3/News-217320.aspx		2008-10-17 17:53:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Media Molecule have no control over the beta, it was all sony's work
But someone should make a petition to send to sony saying they should just make a patch

according to sony, that isnt 'possible' as there are some who dont have online access so will be stuck with the offending material. A bit ridiculous to be honest, but there you go.		2008-10-17 17:55:00

Author:
floor3013
Posts: 287

Why not, for people with no online, offer to replace their disks, rather than replace ALL disks? Idiocy at work again. Think of all those wasted BluRay disks!2008-10-17 17:55:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

So MM made a patch but sony rejected it. Source: http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsPending-217320.aspx

Any way you can copy the text? I'm not a registered user and can't view the link...		2008-10-17 17:56:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Why has this been moved from the news section? This is the worst news we've ever heard about this game!

As far as I'm aware and seeing it, the thread still is n the News section and stickied for that matter? Am I missing something?

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-17 17:58:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

Supersickie: Updated it, the post isn't pending anymore.

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-217320.aspx

QuozL: Someone moved it back basically straight away after i said that lol		2008-10-17 17:58:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I don't think they'll scrap some millions of dollars. They might just hold away the game until a patch is made. They must have printed millions of copies, and they were already shipped all around the world. Calling them back would be very expensive, and they would need to reprint the game and reship it. I don't think they'll take that solution, because it would be way too expensive for them. Better go to court and get sued for millions of dollars than wasting millions of dollars AND making gamers mad.

That is the power of moral compliance.		2008-10-17 17:58:00

Author:
floor3013
Posts: 287

Hey Sony I don't mind about these bad lyrics, I will take one copy before you destroy it.
I'll give you 10 $, plzkthxby 		2008-10-17 18:00:00

Author:
Unknown User

So MM made a patch but sony rejected it. Source: http://n4g.com/ps3/News-217320.aspx

Because Sony would be the one sued, not MM, just like how Sony was accused in the Manchester Church when the game was developped by Insomniac.		2008-10-17 18:01:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

Wait a sec, so the US won't be getting the delay? Why not? Isn't it still offending to a certain group of people in the US?2008-10-17 18:01:00

Author:
Unknown User

The US people are getting a delay. It's worldwide.2008-10-17 18:02:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Wait a sec, so the US won't be getting the delay? Why not? Isn't it still offending to a certain group of people in the US?

Worldwide delay man...Worldwide.		2008-10-17 18:02:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

Holy crap. So I assume the main amount of the delay time will be recalling and reshipping? Smart move for those that picked up an early edition of the game.


Because Sony would be the one sued, not MM, just like how Sony was accused in the Manchester Church when the game was developped by Insomniac.

What's this about Insomniac?		2008-10-17 18:05:00

Author:
Unknown User

This thread is turning into a 'let your anger out' section2008-10-17 18:06:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

sniff, they recalled the game, and there were only 106 hours left...2008-10-17 18:09:00

Author:
illyism
Posts: 146

Righto lets try to leave the religion out of this thread from now on. Vent on Sony, MM, or Political Correctness runamuck all you want but commenting on whether or not one particular religion or another is this that or the other is not on.

In short Play Nice, Nuff Said

I now return you to your normally scheduled broadcast.

Cheers Q		2008-10-17 18:09:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

Musterbluster wrote:
LittleBigPlanet will be remastered in order to remove a track from the game that contained two expressions found in the Qur'an. Whilst shorter expressions from the Qur'an are sometimes used in nasheeds, we are aware that the mixing of musical instruments with recognisable extracts from the Qur'an is offensive to Muslims. Therefore, we have taken immediate action to rectify this. We will confirm a new launch date shortly		2008-10-17 18:16:00

Author:
illyism
Posts: 146

What's this about Insomniac?

Sony was asked by the chuch of Manchester to pull back Resistance because their church was in the game.

It's nothing offensive. The church is used as an hospital, like most church were used in periods of war. But Sony just made public excuses for that one.

But as I said, Sony is taking the blame for Insomniac, so they would most likely take the blame for MM as well.		2008-10-17 18:16:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

I wonder if the offending versions that have been bought already will be worth a fortune in the future.2008-10-17 18:18:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Righto lets try to leave the religion out of this thread from now on. Vent on Sony, MM, or Political Correctness runamuck all you want but commenting on whether or not one particular religion or another is this that or the other is not on.

In short Play Nice, Nuff Said

I now return you to your normally scheduled broadcast.

Cheers Q

While I do agree that there's no point in critiquing religion, it's important to note that Media Molecule and Sony should have seen this as a potential problem from day one. As long as Islam has been around (since roughly 500 AD), it has always been frowned upon when someone takes quotes from the Koran out of context.

In other words, it's really not about what was said so much as it being blatantly quoted from the Koran itself. That's purely on Media Molecule and Sony. That being said, an apology, patch, and offer to replace discs should have satisfied all parties involved in the matter. Just one man's opinion though...		2008-10-17 18:19:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I wonder if the offending versions that have been bought already will be worth a fortune in the future.

I'd say they're worth a lot more NOW.		2008-10-17 18:19:00

Author:
Unknown User

i literally just got into the hype of this game a few days ago and I can't even wait 4 more days!

I can't imagine how some of you might feel if the delay is 1 month now! arghh

I'm jealous of everyone who got their hands on a copy early.		2008-10-17 18:19:00

Author:
StraightSix
Posts: 17

There are two bright sides to this story...

1) We get to play the other October games

2) supersickie's getting buttloads of points thanks to this thread, LOL		2008-10-17 18:20:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

i literally just got into the hype of this game a few days ago and I can't even wait 4 more days!

I can't imagine how some of you might feel if the delay is 1 month now! arghh

I'm jealous of everyone who got their hands on a copy early.

Meh >_> Some can wait...But most people here are suicidal.
Btw, welcome to lbpcentral ^^


There are two bright sides to this story...

1) We get to play the other October games

2) supersickie's getting buttloads of points thanks to this thread, LOL

XD		2008-10-17 18:22:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

There are two bright sides to this story...

1) We get to play the other October games

2) supersickie's getting buttloads of points thanks to this thread, LOL

While they're fixing up the game, they mine as well throw in the online Create.		2008-10-17 18:22:00

Author:
Unknown User

heh, grat's Supersicke!

btw, I can't connect to mediamolecule.com, can you?		2008-10-17 18:23:00

Author:
illyism
Posts: 146

heh, grat's Supersicke!

btw, I can't connect to mediamolecule.com, can you?

I could 5 mins ago but not now, I think its servers are getting overloaded because of there recent post		2008-10-17 18:26:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

...2) supersickie's getting buttloads of points thanks to this thread, LOL

Just wanted to make sure this crowd was made aware. Although I'm not around that often, I can tell it's a good, passionate lot over here and would care greatly as the news developed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but November 14 isn't official yet, right?		2008-10-17 18:26:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

While they're fixing up the game, they mine as well throw in the online Create.

That's what I was thinking. 		2008-10-17 18:26:00

Author:
cstrfrk
Posts: 74

While I do agree that there's no point in critiquing religion, it's important to note that Media Molecule and Sony should have seen this as a potential problem from day one. As long as Islam has been around (since roughly 500 AD), it has always been frowned upon when someone takes quotes from the Koran out of context.

In other words, it's really not about what was said so much as it being blatantly quoted from the Koran itself. That's purely on Media Molecule and Sony. That being said, an apology, patch, and offer to replace discs should have satisfied all parties involved in the matter. Just one man's opinion though...

Note that the song is in Somalian, so most people at Sony and MM probably didn't even know the meaning of the lyrics. And even some knowing the meaning might not know that it was related to the Koran.

Kinda like this commercial...
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


If you don't understand the lyrics of a song, it's a different story...		2008-10-17 18:30:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

Correct me if I'm wrong, but November 14 isn't official yet, right?

Right. The 'official' is 'yet to be confirmed'.		2008-10-17 18:31:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

Well, I might have a solution to this problem. I'll reveal once I confirm it.2008-10-17 18:31:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

While I do agree that there's no point in critiquing religion, it's important to note that Media Molecule and Sony should have seen this as a potential problem from day one. As long as Islam has been around (since roughly 500 AD), it has always been frowned upon when someone takes quotes from the Koran out of context.

In other words, it's really not about what was said so much as it being blatantly quoted from the Koran itself. That's purely on Media Molecule and Sony. That being said, an apology, patch, and offer to replace discs should have satisfied all parties involved in the matter. Just one man's opinion though...

My post wasn't intended to reopen the discussion on religion, it was a polite warning to everyone partaking in this thread to leave the religious discussion out of it from now on please.

Thank you

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-17 18:32:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

Note that the song is in Somalian, so most people at Sony and MM probably didn't even know the meaning of the lyrics. And even some knowing the meaning might not know that it was related to the Koran.

Kinda like this commercial...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIfUo91ZrFQ


If you don't understand the lyrics of a song, it's a different story...

You're quite right. It's clearly a mistake; I should have recognized that. Now even more so, an apology should definitely suffice. What bad luck...


My post wasn't intended to reopen the discussion on religion, it was a polite warning to everyone partaking in this thread to leave the religious discussion out of it from now on please.

Thank you

Cheers QuozL

Many apologies. I shouldn't have offered my knowledge on the subject when you clearly asked all religion-related content be left alone.		2008-10-17 18:35:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I'm so glad Valkiyra Chronicles release date was brought forward. That and Bioshock will do me for the interval, still sucks though.2008-10-17 18:38:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

I think this is just a stupid move. Considering it's apparently in Somalian, deleted offensive text and that considering it's just one song, it would have gone almost certainly undetected. And it could be quietly patched with a version without those lyrics, and we'd have no problem. But they just had to make a big noise and do a massive recall, didn't they? *Shakes head.* Very unwise decision.

Although on the other hand, it may be an excuse for a better release date, one not so crowded out with so many other titles. Even so, incurring so much anger is not to the best advantage of Sony.		2008-10-17 18:40:00

Author:
Mark D. Stroyer
Posts: 632

http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/articles/archive/2008/littlebigplanetupdatedukmailshot03171008/

Don't know how believable this is, but if its been pushed back to October 31st, I'm not too bothered (more mildly miffed).		2008-10-17 18:47:00

Author:
Dream Machine
Posts: 51

I think this is just a stupid move. Considering it's apparently in Somalian, deleted inappropriate text and that considering it's just one song, it would have gone almost certainly undetected. And it could be quietly patched with a version without those lyrics, and we'd have no problem. But they just had to make a big noise and do a massive recall, didn't they? *Shakes head.* Very unwise decision.

Although on the other hand, it may be an excuse for a better release date, one not so crowded out with so many other titles. Even so, incurring so much anger is not to the best advantage of Sony.

I understand that theory, but LBP was set to dominate whatever competition it was up against at any point. It's poised for greatness at any given point.


http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/articles/archive/2008/littlebigplanetupdatedukmailshot03171008/

Don't know how believable this is, but if its been pushed back to October 31st, I'm not too bothered (more mildly miffed).

It's possible I guess... and hope...		2008-10-17 18:47:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/articles/archive/2008/littlebigplanetupdatedukmailshot03171008/

Don't know how believable this is, but if its been pushed back to October 31st, I'm not too bothered (more mildly miffed).

October 31st for the UK, which was its Original release date anyway.
How ironic. I think that might be a credible source.		2008-10-17 18:49:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

31st of October for the UK? The US gets things earlier...sooo...maybe it just got delayed for a week. 2008-10-17 18:51:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

what happened to not careing?

if someone quoted the bible (which happens quite a bit) they wouldnt be mad...

when MM said that it was for certain territories does that mean just somalia?

im ******... i dont know about you guys but in the "Western World" MM does nto have to change anything... its not disrespectful... i say we forget about the song and play the game...		2008-10-17 18:53:00

Author:
12454522412412
Posts: 779

If its true the 31st isn't too bad, means I can take BioShock at a more leisurely pace.2008-10-17 18:57:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Nope, I had two copies bought and paid for, Now I am going to retract those, put them into something else...maybe rock band 2, and maybe I will think again about LBP next summer. By then, plenty will be created, Sony will have the time it needs to touch up anything it needs to, and most of the bugs should be worked out.

This really gets my goat. I still love the game, and nothing against MM, but Sony needs to learn to stop messing with folks.		2008-10-17 18:57:00

Author:
trialaccess
Posts: 101

what happened to not careing?

if someone quoted the bible (which happens quite a bit) they wouldnt be mad...

when MM said that it was for certain territories does that mean just somalia?

im ******... i dont know about you guys but in the "Western World" MM does nto have to change anything... its not disrespectful... i say we forget about the song and play the game...

Sadly, not everyone thinks this way. People will take advantage of the situation... You know how there are plenty of anti-video game groups out there. It doesn't matter what country you're in. If they can find a reason to complain and get attention, they will.

This is why they're getting the copies back.		2008-10-17 18:58:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

Nope, I had two copies bought and paid for, Now I am going to retract those, put them into something else...maybe rock band 2, and maybe I will think again about LBP next summer. By then, plenty will be created, Sony will have the time it needs to touch up anything it needs to, and most of the bugs should be worked out.

This really gets my goat. I still love the game, and nothing against MM, but Sony needs to learn to stop messing with folks.

I know Rock Band 2 is going to utilize a lot more of my time now that there's a delay of an unknown extent. Either way, I'll be rocking out come Saturday at midnight and will just have to continue right on through until LBP finally arrives.		2008-10-17 19:00:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Guys again please can we please leave the judgement of other countries religious, socio-economic background out of this discussion, it is only going to open a can or worms. Sony has made their decision it has nothing to do with how much money a particular country or it's people has nor was it Somalia's fault nor did they raise the initial complaint.

Thank you

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-17 19:01:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

if the dang game is delayed, i need to know soon! i have a day off scheduled from work and i dont want to take the day off for nothing!!! 2008-10-17 19:08:00

Author:
cocojen
Posts: 90

Funny part is, I took almost two weeks off for this game, so that I could play it with friends and family. Had I known before, I could have cancelled the leave, but now it is too close. I wont have the vacation when the game actually comes out.2008-10-17 19:09:00

Author:
trialaccess
Posts: 101

I think this works perfectly for me >_> I have 10 days off, from November 1st lol....2008-10-17 19:10:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

If this is true I'll just get a copy off of ebay..2008-10-17 19:12:00

Author:
TheArmedReaper
Posts: 1543

Oct. 31st is forgivable. I guess.2008-10-17 19:13:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

If this is true I'll just get a copy off of ebay..

Precisely what I thought.

HOWEVER...

Don't cry if you're not able to connect to the servers ever, as the game will NOT be the same version as the "revised" one.		2008-10-17 19:13:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

Precisely what I thought.

HOWEVER...

Don't cry if you're not able to connect to the servers ever, as the game will NOT be the same version as the "revised" one.

Thats what I just did plus a coupon from ebay for free p+p brought it down to only ?50 and I'm hoping that this is true


According to Joystiq.com - MM already has a patch ready which will be active on day 1 (I'm assuming for those early orders that got out the door before hand).

altho I'll probably still get it since the ebay version is a US one and i assume the kratos code i have wont work		2008-10-17 19:26:00

Author:
slayer1551
Posts: 29

omg!! i dont understand y they just dont do a patch!!!!!!!!!!! y? y? y? y? y? y? y? im so mad rite now... even tho im in the us...2008-10-17 19:29:00

Author:
ea9492
Posts: 444

Yep. It's sad. So lets go on Little Big Creation! Bot's gone and I am now the king!!!2008-10-17 19:29:00

Author:
TheArmedReaper
Posts: 1543

omg!! i dont understand y they just dont do a patch!!!!!!!!!!! y? y? y? y? y? y? y? im so mad rite now... even tho im in the us...

Sony claims not everyone has an internet connection, and thus some players will not be able to patch it.		2008-10-17 19:33:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

SO someone made a mistake and the world is all scared because some nutballs in a desert somewhere want to cut peoples heads off because of a cartoon.


Ignorance to this degree is not appreciated whatsoever.
I would love to abide by Quozl's words, but some things can't be allowed to slip without a certain person realizing their dreadful mistake.


Same crap as everytime, most people are just too stupid to recognize the things that happen in the game ONLY HAPPEN IN THE GAME.


I would much rather a group of people be offended than half the world, wouldn't you?
Game or not, it's still there, it's still offensive, and, to be honest, nobody cares if you don't see eye-to-eye with those that have the right to care.


I should never have entered this thread, because if I continue to sit here, my limits will be pushed.
Funny how I was wondering if I should get it today or not... good thing I didn't, because you never know if those earlier versions will ever work properly...		2008-10-17 19:33:00

Author:
ScytheOfGrim
Posts: 438

iScribble party time? :arg:2008-10-17 19:34:00

Author:
Unknown User

Seriously, guys, chill out. It's only a week... Go see your family one last time, and your friends. If UK gets it the 30th, the US will get it the 28th.2008-10-17 19:36:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

iScribble party time? :arg:Little Big Creation first. I'm !KiNg!2008-10-17 19:37:00

Author:
TheArmedReaper
Posts: 1543

http://blog.us.playstation.com

So the delay will probably only be just over 1 week for people in the US. Not that big a deal and I'm just glad it looks like it won't be 3+ weeks.		2008-10-17 19:37:00

Author:
StraightSix
Posts: 17

http://blog.us.playstation.com

So the delay will probably only be just over 1 week for people in the US. Not that big a deal and I'm just glad it looks like it won't be 3+ weeks.
Sorry US, but we're dragging you back down with us europeans..		2008-10-17 19:39:00

Author:
TheArmedReaper
Posts: 1543

Yeah. Fingers crossed the UK date stays at the 31st.2008-10-17 19:43:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Any news on an EU or UK/Ireland release?2008-10-17 19:43:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

We will begin shipping LittleBigPlanet to retail in North America the week of October 27th. Sorry for the delay, and rest assured, we are doing everything we can to get LittleBigPlanet to you as soon as possible.

Does that mean consumers will be able to buy it on the 28th or will it be like a week in transit once its begun shipping meaning you wont be able to buy it till november like people are suggesting		2008-10-17 19:45:00

Author:
slayer1551
Posts: 29

Any news on an EU or UK/Ireland release?
http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/articles/archive/2008/littlebigplanetupdatedukmailshot03171008/

It does seem like a likely release date, but we don't know how trustworthy this is yet. Keep waiting for sony's word on this.		2008-10-17 19:46:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/articles/archive/2008/littlebigplanetupdatedukmailshot03171008/

It does seem like a likely release date, but we don't know how trustworthy this is yet. Keep waiting for sony's word on this.

Cool, thanks Crowler		2008-10-17 19:48:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

No problem. I really, really hope that release date is real. SO MUCH!!2008-10-17 19:49:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Yeah me too...keeping the fingers crossed, haha2008-10-17 19:51:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

Wow, that's so stupid. Since when is a reference to religion a bad thing? I'm a sony fanboy, but now I'm starting to think "MS wouldn't do this to their customers."
Couldn't they just patch this?		2008-10-17 19:51:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

We will begin shipping LittleBigPlanet to retail in North America the week of October 27th. Sorry for the delay, and rest assured, we are doing everything we can to get LittleBigPlanet to you as soon as possible.

i need to know the exact date that it will be available to change my day off! i would want to take the 27th off to only find out that it won't be sold till the 28th! arggh.... im bitter		2008-10-17 19:52:00

Author:
cocojen
Posts: 90

It's only for a week, It doesn't really matter anymore 2008-10-17 19:52:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Wow, that's so stupid. Since when is a reference to religion a bad thing? I'm a sony fanboy, but now I'm starting to think "MS wouldn't do this to their customers."
Couldn't they just patch this?

Oh yes, religion references are always a good thing.

Ok, I've now reached my two-posts-per-thread limit. -___-
Sheesh, this thread isn't healthy for me...		2008-10-17 19:53:00

Author:
ScytheOfGrim
Posts: 438

I am a little upset, but just think about it. They don't want to offend anybody. I mean, we can wait. it is just a really amazing game that everybody wants to play >:O2008-10-17 19:53:00

Author:
Go,Mouse!
Posts: 388

Another bright side to this!

3) We can all enjoy the game together on the same week.

Have you said goodbye to your family and/or friends yet? 		2008-10-17 19:54:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

Another bright side to this!

3) We can all enjoy the game together on the same week.

Have you said goodbye to your family and/or friends yet?

Wasn't it in the same week anyway?
And we have time....>_>
I'm waiting for some specific members' reactions here lol.


P.S: 35 users viewing this thread xD A real record.		2008-10-17 19:56:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

I'm a little annoyed, but only because the game was going to be released on my birthday! These things happen guys. It's hardly the end of the world. Now take a deep breath, wait a little longer and then enjoy all the goodness of LBP!2008-10-17 19:57:00

Author:
mrbobbyboy
Posts: 304

I thought the UK was going to get it over a week later. o_O

If not...

We still rejoice! :: puts up the bonfire...which ignites a large felt building... ::		2008-10-17 19:57:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

Bah...We'll just have to wait a bit more for some official release dates. Nothing credible yet.

Edit:
@ Robber: O_o Dude, edit your post.		2008-10-17 20:04:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

WHAT THE ... etc etc etc. Insert infuriated text here.

Okay guys, it's cool to vent and all, but we're gonna need you all to calm down, please. We're all very excited for the game and hearing this isn't good news at all, but it's just a week. Not a couple of months or weeks, it's just ONE week.

Calm down.		2008-10-17 20:05:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

...For US. We still don't have comfirmation on an EU release date, unless Electronic Theatre can be trusted.2008-10-17 20:07:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Okay guys, it's cool to vent and all, but we're gonna need you all to calm down, please. We're all very excited for the game and hearing this isn't good news at all, but it's just a week. Not a couple of months or weeks, it's just ONE week.

Calm down.

But thats 604,800 seconds its ages.		2008-10-17 20:09:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

But thats 604,800 seconds its ages.
Half of that (A Quarter if you're Rabid Coot, A Third if you're supersickle) will be spent sleeping, so it's not THAT long. For US. Maybe EU.		2008-10-17 20:10:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Half of that will be spent sleeping, so it's not THAT long. For US. Maybe EU.

Try a quarter. 		2008-10-17 20:13:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Try a quarter.

More like 1/3 really...		2008-10-17 20:14:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Try a quarter.
Fixed it for you.		2008-10-17 20:16:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Okay guys, it's cool to vent and all, but we're gonna need you all to calm down, please. We're all very excited for the game and hearing this isn't good news at all, but it's just a week. Not a couple of months or weeks, it's just ONE week.

Calm down.
I just crushed some little cars in Motorstorm 2 with a huge monstertruck.
I feel better already. 		2008-10-17 20:26:00

Author:
Robber
Posts: 46

Wow, that's so stupid. Since when is a reference to religion a bad thing? I'm a sony fanboy, but now I'm starting to think "MS wouldn't do this to their customers."
Couldn't they just patch this?

Sony got in trouble because Insomniac had the Church of Manchester in the game Resistance. It was nothing offensive. The church was used as an hospital during the war. That's a normal war setting for a church, but Sony still got in trouble for it. The problem with patches is that not everyone has an internet connection and could install the patch. And the bigger problem, is that some people would just read about the issue online, cancel their internet connection, buy the game then call their lawyer to sue Sony because the song offends them. You know very well that some people are stupid enough to do things like that. Some people serisouly sued Poptarts (and won) because they heated the poptart and it was too hot. ****, if you heat something, of course it will be hot! Well, they knew it, but they thought of it as an easy way to get money. Companies have to protect agaisnt such idiots, and so we pay for it.		2008-10-17 20:30:00

Author:
ShadowOfEden
Posts: 30

OH YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!

It was all too perfect. I finally scrounged up the money for a PS3. It comes out before an entire week off college. I'm even miraculously off college on the Friday it's out. We'd had a taste thanks to the beta and we didn't have to wait too long.

This is painful. If it's just one week then I can forgive, but otherwise I think I may have to take my own life.		2008-10-17 20:35:00

Author:
UmJammerSully
Posts: 1097

This is ridiculous. I have been watching all this unfold all day. I really cant believe Sony is recalling all millions of game discs and ruining all this hype all for two small phrases that more than likely would have gone under the radar if it wasn't for that one forum post.

I for one am really upset by this. I have been looking forward for this day for months. I even scheduled a day off work to play all day. But now I just don't know.

RE DIC U LOUS
I am pretty angry about all this.		2008-10-17 20:40:00

Author:
WeeB
Posts: 16

I also just thought. Why isn't action being taking against the song itself?? Why against the game?? Why arent thousands of complaints being thrown in the direction of the record company??? Why is the song still for sale on itunes? If they can sell the song on itunes and on CDs in the music stores why cant they sell it in a video game??2008-10-17 20:42:00

Author:
WeeB
Posts: 16

Okey, let's think a little:

muslims on the world:

around 1,3 billion (1 300 000 000)

let's say... 30 million of them own a ps3 (30 000 000)

2 million of them believer very strong n' hard in their religion

500 000 are buying LBP

100 000 recognize that there is a song in the background (the gameplay is just too great to listen to any songs)

100 recognize the lyrics

1 is disturbed about this, he is called solid 08 and posted that

2008-10-17 20:43:00

Author:
Unknown User

http://kotaku.com/5065179/and-the-new-littlebigplanet-north-american-release-date-is?cpage=1&sort=asc

Kotaku for us NA's. THIS ******* SUCKS ******* ****!!!!!!!!!!		2008-10-17 20:45:00

Author:
Unknown User

I also just thought. Why isn't action being taking against the song itself?? Why against the game?? Why arent thousands of complaints being thrown in the direction of the record company??? Why is the song still for sale on itunes? If they can sell the song on itunes and on CDs in the music stores why cant they sell it in a video game??

i agree! if its a song out there then y rnt ppl mad at the record company!!		2008-10-17 20:45:00

Author:
ea9492
Posts: 444

Sony got in trouble because Insomniac had the Church of Manchester in the game Resistance. It was nothing offensive. The church was used as an hospital during the war. That's a normal war setting for a church, but Sony still got in trouble for it. The problem with patches is that not everyone has an internet connection and could install the patch. And the bigger problem, is that some people would just read about the issue online, cancel their internet connection, buy the game then call their lawyer to sue Sony because the song offends them. You know very well that some people are stupid enough to do things like that. Some people serisouly sued Poptarts (and won) because they heated the poptart and it was too hot. ****, if you heat something, of course it will be hot! Well, they knew it, but they thought of it as an easy way to get money. Companies have to protect agaisnt such idiots, and so we pay for it.

Since when did us Americans become so soft? When will we finally stop suing everybody when they make us slightly uncomfortable or when they put one little thing in a movie, book, or videogame that is insensitive to a race or religion?		2008-10-17 20:47:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

Since when did us Americans become so soft? When will we finally stop suing everybody when they make us slightly uncomfortable or when they put one little thing in a movie, book, or videogame that is insensitive to a race or religion?

I think it really comes down to this being an "E" rated game. They're just looking out for the interest of everyone who will play the game. A little rash to recall the game? Probably. But it is what it is.		2008-10-17 20:51:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I wish they'd hurry up and confirm an EU release date 2008-10-17 20:56:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

oh well, there went our Littlebigcentral Event one, the Halloween themed levels can't be created now 2008-10-17 21:01:00

Author:
illyism
Posts: 146

i dont know im just mad grr2008-10-17 21:03:00

Author:
Mod5.0
Posts: 1576

Didn't see this confirmed yet:

http://www.psu.com/Media-Molecule-talks-LBP-delay,-reveals-new-release-dates--a0005127-p0.php

"Media Molecule has commented on the recall of the highly anticipated title LittleBigPlanet. As many of you are already aware, Sony has begun a global recall due to offensive material found within the soundtrack of the game. We've included an excerpt from the developers below; they're just as disappointed as we are.

"We learnt yesterday that there is a lyric in one of the licensed tracks which some people may find offensive, and which slipped through the usual screening processes. Obviously MM and Sony together took this very seriously. LBP should be enjoyable by all. So within 12 hours of hearing about this issue involving a lyric (in Somalian, I believe!), we prepared an automatic day 0 patch and had a new disk image ready; however a decision was made within Sony that the right thing to do for quality and support of people with no online was to replace existing disks. They assure us that they are doing everything in their power to get things straightened out as fast as possible, and will announce dates soon."

LittleBigPlanet will be released on October 27 in the United States and October 31 in Europe. Coincidentally, this was the original release date for Europe before the game was moved up a week.

Stay tuned for our review of LittleBigPlanet this weekend."

And we all can breathe again...		2008-10-17 21:20:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

oh well, we lost the "Thank god, LBP is getting released earlier"
but we're at least getting it in October		2008-10-17 21:24:00

Author:
illyism
Posts: 146

Ah... Good... Thanks Supersickie 2008-10-17 21:28:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I guess Far Cry 2 will have to hold me off.2008-10-17 21:29:00

Author:
Unknown User

anyone find it weird that hey cant patch because not everyone has internet connections...but if they didnt have a internet connection then would they have the right system updates to even play the game

not sure if you need them but always thought you did....still this thing really makes me sad		2008-10-17 21:34:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

Yeah fine... 31th... on the 3th November school starts again -_-2008-10-17 21:36:00

Author:
Unknown User

Ah... Good... Thanks Supersickie

Not a problem, my friend.		2008-10-17 21:40:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

anyone find it weird that hey cant patch because not everyone has internet connections...but if they didnt have a internet connection then would they have the right system updates to even play the game

not sure if you need them but always thought you did....still this thing really makes me sad



As far as I am aware, if a game NEEDS system updates in order to function, it has them on the disk. You just won't have noticed because you have the 'net connection.		2008-10-17 21:42:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

As far as I am aware, if a game NEEDS system updates in order to function, it has them on the disk. You just won't have noticed because you have the 'net connection.

ahhh thanks that was bugging me.		2008-10-17 21:48:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

This is my official response, strong language (blue) after the link.

To say I'm not pleased is an understatement.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/balth/lbp-delay-is-complete-and-utter-b-115417-108177.phtml		2008-10-17 22:03:00

Author:
balth
Posts: 15

Hmmm, I wasn'g going to be getting it until the bundle was released on Oct 31st anyway. So its no biggie for me.

I just feel bad for everyone that preordered, expecting to play the game in like, 4 days.

Ah well, at least its still released in October. I don't have school again until the 4th, so thats still 4 days of LBP. 		2008-10-17 22:06:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

Didn't have a chance to come on yesterday and have just read every post in this thread and lets just say i'm VERY MADgrrgrrgrrgrrgrrgrrgrr

Not at sony or MM but THE OTHERS (and i'm not talking about LOST) if i say any more i'm afraid people will get mad and i won't be able to come on here any more and i love this site more than any other I've ever been on

I'm off too calm down and to tell my boss i don't need the 24th off work any more. Probably see you's again before the 31st if thats right but the way i feel now i might not

P.s don't bother telling me to chill out or get over it as it's only another week as the game obviously doesn't mean as much to you as it does to me. This game has taken over my life and the wait was already killing me

Peace out, Dorien		2008-10-17 22:11:00

Author:
dorien
Posts: 2767

This is such a huge disappointment, honestly. Political correctness is held so highly these days, it really bothers me. Week of the 27th? God, I thought this week was going slowly.

EDIT: Hmm, my Amazon preorder still lists the 21st as the Date of Arrival, even though the new release date has been changed.		2008-10-17 22:11:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

This is my official response, strong language (blue) after the link.

To say I'm not pleased is an understatement.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/balth/lbp-delay-is-complete-and-utter-b-115417-108177.phtml

Awww poor you.		2008-10-17 22:14:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

They just had to complain about it, didn't they.2008-10-17 22:14:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758

According to our tipster Topsu, the cause for the delay may be due to a a song in the game's soundtrack, which quotes the Quran. Use of religious text in the game may be considered insensitive to some. We're currently investigating this story, and we'll update when we find out more."

Sucks...
they delayed LBP because it quotes the quarn. that is crazy. what's the big deal? am i the only one who thinks political correctness has gone way way too far. i had one week off to play LBP now i'm back to school the day it's out.		2008-10-17 22:17:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

This. Is. So. Stupid.

So very stupid.

I wish they wouldn't have found out about this until after the 21st.

Or, alternatively, I wish they would have pretended not to know about this until after the 21st.		2008-10-17 22:19:00

Author:
fortunekey
Posts: 29

I pre-ordered it and it doesn't bother me because it has reason behind the delay. I'm more disappointed with HOME, than LBP which only has a extra week.2008-10-17 22:20:00

Author:
QuellMicquel
Posts: 68

This. Is. So. Stupid.

So very stupid.

I wish they wouldn't have found out about this until after the 21st.

Or, alternatively, I wish they would have pretended not to know about this until after the 21st.
change that to the 24th or they'd recall it for ireland and britain		2008-10-17 22:22:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

If this gets delayed until November, I'll definitely be sending Sony a complaint. People need to learn not to be so sensitive.2008-10-17 22:23:00

Author:
Code1337
Posts: 3476

i wish we could curse here.....

but we can't.

but seriosly.... not cool.... i already planed my midnight launch and changed gamsetops and everything, and now they probably won't have a mid-night launch cuz of this... stupidness...


i'm really mad		2008-10-17 22:45:00

Author:
big93
Posts: 262

Just got an automated call from Gamestop that said it had been delayed and would be available starting on October 27. Who knows if that means they'll actually have it that day...2008-10-17 22:48:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

ahh man i just got the call from gamestop announcing that
Sony has announced that the release of lbp has been delayed till the week of oct 27th. we assure you that your reservation is safe with us and no action is needed on your part. thank you. any1 else get this call?		2008-10-17 22:49:00

Author:
ea9492
Posts: 444

this is so ridiculous. they're delaying it because it quotes the q'uran but the q'uran probably has the words the, you and and in it. we could barely speak without using words from it. i have religion class in school and the religion book quotes loads of long passages or sura or whatever they're called from the q'uran. what's the difference. i mean seriously wtf. this is one of the most stupid descisions ever. i cannot believe anyone would be so stupid to delay a game because a song in it quotes a few words from the q'uran. stupid sony.2008-10-17 22:49:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

Ignorance to this degree is not appreciated whatsoever.
I would love to abide by Quozl's words, but some things can't be allowed to slip without a certain person realizing their dreadful mistake.



I'm going to have to agree with you here and I can only offer excuses for my quick words. I just woke up, heard the bad news, got annoyed and made a snap judgement. I obviously do not think that is the reason. A main part of this game is the ability to remove material that will be offensive. I apologize for my harsh words.		2008-10-17 22:50:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

So when is the game coming out in the US?2008-10-17 22:55:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

So when is the game coming out in the US?

Ships October 27. Should be available in the U.S. starting that day.		2008-10-17 22:59:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I mean, yeah, sure religion is a big part of many people's lifes, and being a Christian my self I can understand that many people are very devoted to what they believe, however, I think this is going way too far.

I cannot see why quoting part of the Qur'an is offensive, though? If someone ever used the phrase "Thou shalt not steal" in a song I don't think any Christians would be bothered. Now don't get me wrong, I AM NOT STARTING A RACE WAR. I respect other people's religion, but for the 0.01% of Muslims (or any LBP players) that would actually notice it, I don't think removing millions of games was worth it.

Plus, I refuse to believe that when the game was being reviewed for websites and such there were no Muslim people there, reviewing it too, meaning that they missed the lyric.

Alex.

TL;DR: Most people wouldn't be listening to every word of the songs. My oppinion, leave it in. Too much hassle? Release a patch, easy.		2008-10-17 23:03:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

What.. the hell is up with this world? I sometimes can't believe what's going on. Now a possibly revolutionary game gets delayed, because.. one.. SONG.. has some stupid religious content? To hell with religion, why don't people finally realize it's the stupidest invention of mankind? Seriously this is so g****** stupid, I still can't believe it. I mean if you feel offended by a SONG then don't listen to it. If someone can't enjoy a game, because the music has some probably not even offensively meant words in it, then imo this someone should start thinking about what the hell he is doing. Sometimes it feels like 95% of the population on earth can't think for themselves.
Even though, why do they even have to delay it, they could have patched it out, lock it or something, not like anyone would hack the disk just to get the song into their level.		2008-10-17 23:04:00

Author:
Shiwayari
Posts: 167

To hell with religion, why don't people finally realize it's the stupidest invention of mankind?

i agree with everything you said except this.		2008-10-17 23:07:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

Screw You, Sony.2008-10-17 23:07:00

Author:
RadarFlea
Posts: 85

Well, I've had plenty of time to run about and think of other things. I came to see what everyone else was thinking about this and it seems like mixed reactions as always.

I'm going to have to support Sony in the complete recall even though I want this game as bad as any of you. Built into the game, is a way to report any material that is offensive. If they ignored a song that may be offensive to even ONE person then the whole idea would flush right down the toilet.

We also have to think how great it was for someone to find this PRIOR TO RELEASE. If this came out after the game was sold to millions of people, every bit of news from that point would be negative. There would be loads of lawyers and "activist" groups circling MM and LBP like sharks.

I don't suggest directing any anger at that SOLID guy. He may have been reporting the issue or may have been being a ******. We may never know.

Let's just be happy that this issue has not pushed the game back to November or December and no lawsuits will prevent the game from being sold.		2008-10-17 23:08:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

Well said, maybe. But I don't care. I have a long weekend next Thrusday and Friday, and now, no LittleBigPlanet. To repeat myself:

Screw. You. Sony.

Also, some semi-psuedo-religous crap that people bring up at the last minute makes this game unsellable? The World loves GTA, but can't stand some chanting or whatever it is? One more time for posterity:


.ynoS ,ouY wercS

^Sony, take a look at that in a mirror^		2008-10-17 23:13:00

Author:
RadarFlea
Posts: 85

What.. the hell is up with this world? I sometimes can't believe what's going on. Now a possibly revolutionary game gets delayed, because.. one.. SONG.. has some stupid religious content? To hell with religion, why don't people finally realize it's the stupidest invention of mankind? Seriously this is so g****** stupid, I still can't believe it. I mean if you feel offended by a SONG then don't listen to it. If someone can't enjoy a game, because the music has some probably not even offensively meant words in it, then imo this someone should start thinking about what the hell he is doing. Sometimes it feels like 95% of the population on earth can't think for themselves.
Even though, why do they even have to delay it, they could have patched it out, lock it or something, not like anyone would hack the disk just to get the song into their level.

While you're entitled to your own views, it's probably best to keep your opinions of religion to yourself as QuozL suggested. We're all disappointed by this delay, but there's nothing that can be done about it at this point. It's one week; we'll all get through it just fine. And - once the game's in hand - we can rest easy knowing that Sony made a tough choice to ensure the best gaming experience for people of all races, creeds, and religions.


Well said, maybe. But I don't care. I have a long weekend next Thrusday and Friday, and now, no LittleBigPlanet. To repeat myself:

Screw. You. Sony.

Also, some semi-psuedo-religous crap that people bring up at the last minute makes this game unsellable? The World loves GTA, but can't stand some chanting or whatever it is? One more time for posterity:


.ynoS ,ouY wercS

^Sony, take a look at that in a mirror^

As I stated previously in the thread, I think a lot of this has to do with the game being rated "E" for "Everyone". Vulgarities are to be expected in GTA and, in turn, the game is rated appropriately. It's obvious to me - whether we like it or not - that Sony felt they couldn't knowingly ship a product that might be deemed offensive by a group of people.

At the end of the day, which would you rather happen?

1.) Sony decides to recall the game, remove the content deemed offensive, and release the game one week later.

2.) Sony goes ahead with the original launch. There is a huge mess made over the content that Sony decided wasn't that bad and the greatness that is LittleBigPlanet is completely overshadowed by the whole ordeal.

There is, of course, the possibility that Sony could have released the game and everything would have went along fine. However, they can't take that chance. This game is meant to sell systems and change the way everyone - gamers and laymen - look at video games. To be anything less than certain that this game is completely acceptable to all audiences would be too much of a risk for Sony. They're really relying on this title to kick off a huge holiday season that could potentially put them ahead of Microsoft.		2008-10-17 23:13:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Cool it down guys, seriously. We're all annoyed but this.
Using inappropriate language won't change anything.


Off-topic: Over 220 replies, and 2100 views.
Congrats Supersickie lol		2008-10-17 23:15:00

Author:
Forsaken
Posts: 950

I'm going to have to support Sony in the complete recall even though I want this game as bad as any of you. Built into the game, is a way to report any material that is offensive. If they ignored a song that may be offensive to even ONE person then the whole idea would flush right down the toilet.

fine. i find the word sack offensive change sackboys name. i also find creating offensive so take that out aswell and i just find playing games offensive so goodbye to that bit of LBP. this remindeds me of that south park episode where people were getting offended by christmas stuff.		2008-10-17 23:15:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

While you're entitled to your own views, it's probably best to keep your opinions of religion to yourself as QuozL suggested. We're all disappointed by this delay, but there's nothing that can be done about it at this point. It's one week; we'll all get through it just fine. And - once the game's in hand - we can rest easy knowing that Sony made a tough choice to ensure the best gaming experience for people of all races, creeds, and religions.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but religion is used as a cover to hide behind.

They're annoyed by a song in a video game, so a major corporation recalls it and disappoints millions of fans.

In the same way, I'm annoyed by people whining for no discernable reason other than faith, but I get screwed over anyway.

They get what they want, I get screwed over. If you have so much faith, use it in a more productive way.

AWWWWWW:o:o:o:m ad::o:o:o		2008-10-17 23:19:00

Author:
RadarFlea
Posts: 85

I've had my "fix". Couple of days ago I rushed through the game in 5 hours. I think it's the most fun game I've ever played.2008-10-17 23:20:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

fine. i find the word sack offensive change sackboys name. i also find creating offensive so take that out aswell and i just find playing games offensive so goodbye to that bit of LBP. this remindeds me of that south park episode where people were getting offended by christmas stuff.

This is not helping.



What will help...

Anyone got the link to the original PSN post? I'm interested in seeing where he got his copy of LBP. I think rather than complaining about Sony or MM we should complain about stores breaking the street date. Which started this to begin with.		2008-10-17 23:20:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I don't give a ******* if it has messages from the quran!! Holy sh*t!2008-10-17 23:24:00

Author:
THE-FAT
Posts: 143

I don't give a ******* if it has messages from the quran!! Holy sh*t!

Some people do. I don't care if I see a giant penis in a level, but some people do.		2008-10-17 23:26:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I think rather than complaining about Sony or MM we should complain about stores breaking the street date.
sorry but i disagree. the reason it got delayed is way too much political correctness and religious sensitivity. it is just completly ridiculous. if we lived in a world where everyone wasn't afraid of offending someone there'd have been no delay		2008-10-17 23:28:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

Alright, here's my opinion on the whole deal:

On the one hand, this bothers me. I don't like it when political correctness goes too far, and this seems like it might have. Recalling a game for a problem that could have been fixed with a patch is a little much.

On the other, this choice makes sense. If they had released a patch, only those with online would receive it. Many people who buy LittleBigPlanet will not use the online options, meaning that song would still be there. I have no idea how many people it would offend, but if it ends up offending an entire religion, it would completely ruin the goals Sony and Media Molecule have for LittleBigPlanet. Bad publicity would be spread, and LittleBigPlanet could be seen as anti-muslim. This game is supposed to be accessible to all ages, all genders, and all religions, which is why I can see why the decision made sense. Still, I think the goal of making a game completely accessible to everyone is an impossible goal, as something will always offend someone. It's all in how many people would actually be offended by it, and as I've said before, I have no idea how many people would be.

So, in summation, I know nothing about the subject in which this decision is based, so take my opinion with a grain or two of salt. 		2008-10-17 23:28:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

This is not helping.



What will help...

Anyone got the link to the original PSN post? I'm interested in seeing where he got his copy of LBP. I think rather than complaining about Sony or MM we should complain about stores breaking the street date. Which started this to begin with.

Yes, if stores didn't break the street date, I'd have my hands on LBP in 3 days...
Now, a few muslims who shouldn't even have the game ruined it for us...


I have no idea how many people it would offend, but if it ends up offending an entire religion, it would completely ruin the goals Sony and Media Molecule have for LittleBigPlanet. Bad publicity would be spread, and LittleBigPlanet could be seen as anti-muslim.
That is a huge exaggeration. That's like calling a Tony Hawk game with a death metal song in it anti-christian.		2008-10-17 23:28:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

I don't mean to offend anyone, but religion is used as a cover to hide behind.

They're annoyed by a song in a video game, so a major corporation recalls it and disappoints millions of fans.

In the same way, I'm annoyed by people whining for no discernable reason other than faith, but I get screwed over anyway.

They get what they want, I get screwed over. If you have so much faith, use it in a more productive way.

AWWWWWW:o:o:o:m ad::o:o:o

Again, I understand your frustration. We all do. However, your opinion of religion has little do with the outcome of this situation. You feel robbed just like the rest of us.

But things happen in this world that are completely out of our control. My advice is to take deep breaths; getting worked up over something that you have no power over only leads to more frustration. I'm just trying to do you a favor.

It's clear to me now more than ever that Sony is a proponent of tolerance. While it stinks to have to wait another week, I think it's great that they're leading by example. Rather than feed fire, they were humble in the decision, are going to make the necessary changes, and will have the game out to us in a much quicker fashion than we first thought.		2008-10-17 23:31:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Why is it not an option for these people to just not play the game? I find GTA offensive, so i don't play it.

And by the way, 4 days beforehand? A month ago I probably would have gone, "Aw, too bad. Just another week though." But now, LBP has been all I think about.

In any light, this is dumb.

EDIT: The irony of it is, this will probably make me buy Fallout 3. And I'll probably hum religous tunes while I blow everybody up. Take that Sony!

And I know there's nothing we can do, I'm just ticked. I really don't mean to offend, I am hust the kind of person who can't keep their head on when something bad and unexpected happens. Thanks for tolerating me.		2008-10-17 23:32:00

Author:
RadarFlea
Posts: 85

sorry but i disagree. the reason it got delayed is way too much political correctness and religious sensitivity. it is just completly ridiculous. if we lived in a world where everyone wasn't afraid of offending someone there'd have been no delay

I agree with you but the fact remains... if the stores had not broke the street date, the song would not have offended someone [or whatever the case may be] and therefore the game would not have been delayed.

Personally. I'm going to boycott Target and Walmart.		2008-10-17 23:33:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

Why is it not an option for these people to just not play the game? I find GTA offensive, so i don't play it.

And by the way, 4 days beforehand? A month ago I probably would have gone, "Aw, too bad. Just another week though." But now, LBP has been all I think about.

In any light, this is dumb.

i agree. this is so stupid. even if they really want to play just mute the volume so they don't hear the song. and docpac they would have got offended when LBP was released first in america only. so it still might have been delayed for europe		2008-10-17 23:35:00

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Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

This is so **** stupid. Was counting the **** days, and now this crap. Totally killed it for me. People need to get the forks out of their ***** about stupid **** like these songs......GOD! I cannot believe how stupid this is.2008-10-17 23:36:00

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THE-FAT
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I'm just wondering: Are there any Muslims here on LBPC? Don't worry, I won't fire them with my lasers, but I'm just wondering if the so called 'offending material' really is offending, or if it's just because of the principle. Someone who really knows the religion could give us an honest answer hopefully.2008-10-17 23:37:00

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Unknown User

Can't they just add a rating such as Teen, or just label that it has Religious references in it, and you can't sue us if you buy it?2008-10-17 23:38:00

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THE-FAT
Posts: 143

I'm just wondering: Are there any Muslims here on LBPC? Don't worry, I won't fire them with my lasers, but I'm just wondering if the so called 'offending material' really is offending, or if it's just because of the principle. Someone who really knows the religion could give us an honest answer hopefully.

Yeah there are, ScytheOfGrim being one.
He already gave his answer here in this thread.		2008-10-17 23:40:00

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Forsaken
Posts: 950

Why is it not an option for these people to just not play the game? I find GTA offensive, so i don't play it.

And by the way, 4 days beforehand? A month ago I probably would have gone, "Aw, too bad. Just another week though." But now, LBP has been all I think about.

In any light, this is dumb.

EDIT: The irony of it is, this will probably make me buy Fallout 3. And I'll probably hum religous tunes while I blow everybody up. Take that Sony!

And I know there's nothing we can do, I'm just ticked. I really don't mean to offend, I am hust the kind of person who can't keep their head on when something bad and unexpected happens. Thanks for tolerating me.

And it's perfectly fine that you don't play GTA. Just remember, there's an "M" rating there to warn people that they may be offended by content within. An "E" rating screams "safe for all".

Tolerance is what I'm all about; I try to accept everyone for what they are. But, like I said before, you've got to learn to be cool about things that you have no control over. You're going to wind up with hypertension and be miserable throughout life if you don't learn to be more patient and understanding of other people and their views.		2008-10-17 23:41:00

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supersickie
Posts: 1366

Yeah there are, ScytheOfGrim being one.
He already gave his answer here in this thread.

Has he had his say here yet? I want to know if he finds the lyrics offending.		2008-10-17 23:42:00

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Unknown User

And I of course don't blame Muslims, and nobody should. But people can take things too far, and I think this crosses that line a lot.2008-10-17 23:42:00

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RadarFlea
Posts: 85

I'm still uncertain about the EU release date how comes sony haven't announced anything? The only places that have commented on an eu release are Electronic Theatre & PSU, but we haven't heard anything from official sources.2008-10-17 23:45:00

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Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

And it's perfectly fine that you don't play GTA. Just remember, there's an "M" rating there to warn people that they may be offended by content within. An "E" rating screams "safe for all".

Tolerance is what I'm all about; I try to accept everyone for what they are. But, like I said before, you've got to learn to be cool about things that you have no control over. You're going to wind up with hypertension and be miserable throughout life if you don't learn to be more patient and understanding of other people and their views.

the game got the E rating with the song in it. i mean it's a song i could find something in every game, movie, book and t.v. show including ones rated E or whatever and find something somebody would find offensive		2008-10-17 23:46:00

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Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

That is a huge exaggeration. That's like calling a Tony Hawk game with a death metal song in it anti-christian.
Do you remember the "hot coffee" debacle with Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas? That was content locked in the game, content that could not be seen unless you modified the game. Still, that content caused the rating of that game to be bumped up to AO and it got Rockstar in a whole heap of legal trouble. Even though that content was completely blocked off from 98% of players, it still dragged Rockstar's image through the mud. My point is this: something slightly offensive can still cause damage even if it doesn't offend most people.		2008-10-17 23:48:00

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ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

Does anybody know what song is causing all of this madness?2008-10-17 23:48:00

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Unknown User

ok i know how to explain this and it is the most common thing i bet

THEY ARE AFRAID OF GETTING SUED

that is most likely the most common reason these things and other things of the sort occur

i have a story that sets in exactly with this, i was at a movie theater and my friend runs up the escalator and i do not want to be left behind so i run up after him except i trip on the way up and the escalator stabs me in the knee and i start to bleed a lot and the highest guy up in the ladder there comes and gives me 2 free addmission passes with a free drink and a free popcorn for each ticket, why do you think he did this, like i said above, he did not want to get sued because that could cost the company a lot of money and they can not afford that.

the same thing here if Sony gets sued than we all get screwed because support for games and the system may drop and that will not be good

so even though i am kinda sad that we have to wait another week, i am glad because if they did not than it could just turn out worse for all of us if you like Sony, so be glad to get the revised version and just run with it lol

sorry if i sound a little hostile

Cheers!		2008-10-17 23:52:00

Author:
RAINFIRE
Posts: 1101

Do you remember the "hot coffee" debacle with Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas? That was content locked in the game, content that could not be seen unless you modified the game. Still, that content caused the rating of that game to be bumped up to AO and it got Rockstar in a whole heap of legal trouble.
kinda offtopic but when rockstar had to give refunds to people who were offended it was only a few hundred dollars which considering the ammount of GTA SA sold is very small		2008-10-17 23:52:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

the game got the E rating with the song in it. i mean it's a song i could find something in every game, movie, book and t.v. show including ones rated E or whatever and find something somebody would find offensive

The game did indeed receive an "E" rating with the song included, but it's clear now the lyrics weren't really checked in the first place. After all, the song is in Somali and Media Molecule as well as Sony must have just glossed over the content all together.

Either way, it's been deemed offensive by some people and Sony has decided to address it via worldwide recall as they have the means to do so. As I said before, doing anything less would mean Sony would run the risk of LBP being overshadowed by something they could have addressed and avoided completely at the cost of one week.		2008-10-17 23:53:00

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supersickie
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