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i think this is the song... Tapha Niang2008-10-17 23:55:00

Author:
ea9492
Posts: 444

Do you remember the "hot coffee" debacle with Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas? That was content locked in the game, content that could not be seen unless you modified the game. Still, that content caused the rating of that game to be bumped up to AO and it got Rockstar in a whole heap of legal trouble. Even though that content was completely blocked off from 98% of players, it still dragged Rockstar's image through the mud. My point is this: something slightly offensive can still cause damage even if it doesn't offend most people.

What the heck is the "hot coffee" thing? Off-topic but I just want to know

And to stay on topic, you guys need to chill seriously. You have waited, some more then others, almost several months for this game, years for the other people. I'm 100% positive that you can wait another week.		2008-10-17 23:58:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

The game did indeed receive an "E" rating with the song included, but it's clear now the lyrics weren't really checked in the first place. After all, the song is in Somali and Media Molecule as well as Sony must have just glossed over the content all together.

Either way, it's been deemed offensive by some people and Sony has decided to address it via worldwide recall as they have the means to do so. As I said before, doing anything less would mean Sony would run the risk of LBP being overshadowed by something they could have addressed and avoided completely at the cost of one week.

if people are gonna get mad over a few q'uran refrerences in a song. they'll just go mad at a level which they find offensive online. so it wouldn't make much difference		2008-10-18 00:00:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

if people are gonna get mad over a few q'uran refrerences in a song. they'll just go mad at a level which they find offensive online. so it wouldn't make much difference

I honestly expect something relating to this incident to be made into a level.		2008-10-18 00:03:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I honestly expect something relating to this incident to be made into a level.

I think you can count on it. And - as Media Molecule has put the tools necessary in place - people will flag those levels "offensive"...		2008-10-18 00:05:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

i think this is the song... Tapha Niang

Yeah, that's it. I'd link the YouTube video here, because somebody just uploaded a video titled 'Little Big Planet - the song that got it delayed', but for obvious reasons I won't.


What the heck is the "hot coffee" thing? Off-topic but I just want to know

And to stay on topic, you guys need to chill seriously. You have waited, some more then others, almost several months for this game, years for the other people. I'm 100% positive that you can wait another week.

Go to Wikipedia and search 'banned games' and find GTA on the list.		2008-10-18 00:06:00

Author:
Unknown User

I think you can count on it. And - as Media Molecule has put the tools necessary in place - people will flag those levels "offensive"...

Which is what someone did, in spirit I guess, with the song. Some found it offensive and Sony acted.		2008-10-18 00:06:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I honestly expect something relating to this incident to be made into a level.

probably. would the level be taken down because if they take down one level referencing religion they'll have to take them every level that references religion down.		2008-10-18 00:07:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270

What do you guys think of my new sig?


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a135/dubyae/boycott.jpg		2008-10-18 00:08:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I just listened to the song, and it actually sounds quite nice (more so the intro). Will they completely remove the song, replace it, or censor it?2008-10-18 00:09:00

Author:
Unknown User

What do you guys think of my new sig?


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a135/dubyae/boycott.jpg

Silly and pointless.		2008-10-18 00:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Silly and pointless.

Not to me. I know no one will go for it but maybe it will sway peoples hate.		2008-10-18 00:29:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

Silly and pointless.

Nothing about this is silly and pointless.

EDIT: Here is a link that explains what the "offending" phrases are. They actually do talk about death, so It is more understandable, but still.......		2008-10-18 00:33:00

Author:
RadarFlea
Posts: 85

Right first I'll come out with it I am a Muslim and also a devoted gamer. Personally to me this is a big disappointment . After seriously looking forward to the game for ages to be knocked back by a couple of line or even one is seriously angering. Like many Muslims I wouldn't haven't even noticed it considering I played through safari levels in the Manchester's Lbp shop and didn't notice anything. But to be honest just because I didn't someone else might have so I can understand MM and Sony situation. But I think that the political correctness can get a little out of hand and has done in the past.

Disappointing a lot and frustrating but what can we do 		2008-10-18 00:36:00

Author:
Kyashu
Posts: 447

probably. would the level be taken down because if they take down one level referencing religion they'll have to take them every level that references religion down.

I'm not sure they would take any of them down. Game experiences may vary during online play and the levels will wind up with flags warning people of the content within.		2008-10-18 00:38:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Nothing about this is silly and pointless.

EDIT: Here is a link that explains what the "offending" phrases are. They actually do talk about death, so It is more understandable, but still.......

I actually think the words were very deep. It's not a threat but a comment on life.

I thought it was said somewhere officially, the words were a language other than islamic.		2008-10-18 00:44:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I actually think the words were very deep. It's not a threat but a comment on life.

I thought it was said somewhere officially, the words were a language other than islamic.

Oh yeah, it's not like:
"We will kill you all, lalalala, kill, kill, death, falmes of evil, grrrrrr, die, grr, Satan, Satan, Satan, BOOM!"

I truly don't understand what people are mad about. Except me, I understand my angers perfectly.		2008-10-18 00:49:00

Author:
RadarFlea
Posts: 85

If you would like to listen to the song, search:Tapha Niang on YouTube2008-10-18 00:59:00

Author:
Unknown User

If you would like to listen to the song, search:Tapha Niang on YouTube

Just listened. It's a shame that someone found the lyrics within offensive; I'm sure this is the diverse sound Media Molecule was going for all along...		2008-10-18 01:10:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Something similar happened in another game about a year ago oddly enough.2008-10-18 01:11:00

Author:
dobilay
Posts: 60

Just listened. It's a shame that someone found the lyrics within offensive; I'm sure this is the diverse sound Media Molecule was going for all along...

It truly sounds beautiful, but it's a shame...

I wish they could just take out all of the lyrics and just keep the music...		2008-10-18 01:13:00

Author:
Unknown User

I think the offense actually comes from the mixing of Qur?anic verse with music. Any Muslims that could back this up?2008-10-18 01:15:00

Author:
Dropbear
Posts: 272

of course it is a shame that LBP is delayed, but it is for the best. If it wasnt delayed, they would have to reacall it eventually for the sole reason that many people (especially religious conservatives) would take supreme offense to have anything from the holy text of islam in this game. It is a shame that so many people would have nothing better to do than to harass a game that meant no harm but...what can you do. It saddens me

also, please don't say you wouldnt buy the game just because it was delayed a few days (or even a few weeks). MM realizes how imperative it is to release the game on schedule and would not postpone the release date any longer. This game will be fantastic no matter when it comes out so just wait and stay calm. All will be well come the 27th.		2008-10-18 01:18:00

Author:
chiropractor345
Posts: 161

I think the offense actually comes from the mixing of Qur?anic verse with music. Any Muslims that could back this up?

ScytheOfGrim, but he prefers to stay out of this one...

Try doing some research instead.		2008-10-18 01:19:00

Author:
Unknown User

ScytheOfGrim, but he prefers to stay out of this one...

Try doing some research instead.

I second the suggestion of independent research. Remember, it can be fun to learn about other cultures. 		2008-10-18 01:29:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

i'm just happy it is only a 1 week delay

i have a few midterms next week so now i'll be able to study for those without LBP distracting me. Works out well for me		2008-10-18 01:41:00

Author:
StraightSix
Posts: 17

ScytheOfGrim, but he prefers to stay out of this one...

Try doing some research instead.

Don't quote me on this but I think the issue here is that in Islam they refrain from using actual quotes from the Quran within music and therefore hence the complaint. Religious songs called nasheeds are usually in praise of Allah but they are told to refrain from the usage of direct quotes due to it being the word of god. Like i said I am a Muslim but I'm presuming that this is why this has caused such a hassle, but feel free to correct me if this isn't the main point		2008-10-18 01:58:00

Author:
Kyashu
Posts: 447

Guys.

It could be worse.

Brawl was delayed like four times so I know how hard it is to wait for a game... but it's worth it in the end. Don't give up on a great game just because it's a little late.		2008-10-18 02:09:00

Author:
Tyler
Posts: 663

Guys.

It could be worse.

Brawl was delayed like four times so I know how hard it is to wait for a game... but it's worth it in the end. Don't give up on a great game just because it's a little late.

Brawl turned out to be a let down.

You could've chosen a better example. lol 		2008-10-18 02:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

Brawl turned out to be a let down.

You could've chosen a better example. lol

Umm...

Well, uh...

Even though it was disappointing, everyone was still waiting really badly for it. And I played the beta and I KNOW this game isn't disappointing. XD		2008-10-18 02:34:00

Author:
Tyler
Posts: 663

After thinking about this for a long time I have come to the realization that for Sony to spend the amount of money that they will spend. With the shipping back and the destruction of the old ones and the rushed new prints of the new BD. They must really want to have this game be a major part of their future.2008-10-18 02:38:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

After thinking about this for a long time I have come to the realization that for Sony to spend the amount of money that they will spend. With the shipping back and the destruction of the old ones and the rushed new prints of the new BD. They must really want to have this game be a major part of their future.

I think what Sony have came to realize is the drive of this game is huge, the hype is generated not through media even before the media it is peoples imagination that has driven this game to be huge. After all this game is one without limitations well (not many limitations) . And I did read somewhere that Sony are looking to make sackboy the face of LittleBigPlanet.		2008-10-18 02:50:00

Author:
Kyashu
Posts: 447

And I did read somewhere that Sony are looking to make sackboy the face of LittleBigPlanet.

I'm sure you meant to say PlayStation, right? Sackboy is already the face of LittleBigPlanet. lol 		2008-10-18 02:55:00

Author:
Unknown User

I'm sure you meant to say PlayStation, right? Sackboy is already the face of LittleBigPlanet. lol

Lol oops that is totally right the face of playstation lol, it's 3 in the morning so please excuse my mistake lol. Yeah but personally overall Sony do require a new face for their products there is'nt that many left. but sorry off topic.

So if anyone could guarantee it is 28th for US, 31 st on Europe? If that's the case that should be ok as I get paid on the last day of the month 		2008-10-18 03:06:00

Author:
Kyashu
Posts: 447

So if anyone could guarantee it is 28th for US, 31 st on Europe? If that's the case that should be ok as I get paid on the last day of the month

It's the 27th for the US.		2008-10-18 03:07:00

Author:
Unknown User

lol...i would guess that is what he meant. And what better mascot for PS#, a cute adorable little bugger who is filled with limitless possibilites. just like the PS3.

And this whole delay really isnt that bad of a thing. i mean, 7 days, that is a reasonable amount of time to wait. I am not woried one bit (a little anxeious) but nothing too bad 		2008-10-18 03:09:00

Author:
chiropractor345
Posts: 161

It's great that most in this thread have taken a turn for the positive. In the end, this is going to live up to every ounce of hype that's surrounded it. Most of us have played the beta and know we're destined to get exactly what was promised to us by the good folks at Media Molecule.

We've got a great community here at LBPC; we'll find perfectly suitable ways to occupy ourselves and each other as we wait through one final week without LittleBigPlanet.		2008-10-18 03:30:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

It's the 27th for the US.

My pre-order from BestBuy says the release date is the 30th... And I'm from the US... Maybe they'll release them when they get them though.

Oh well... It will get here eventually! 		2008-10-18 03:43:00

Author:
GangsterGarfield
Posts: 63

This is pretty much how things went.

ljnka21HcDQ		2008-10-18 03:47:00

Author:
Unknown User

Yeah in the end a week is not that bad (as long as that happens) its just sad to see the countdown timer go back to 9 days2008-10-18 03:47:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

delayed 3 weeks for like 2 words darn XD2008-10-18 04:08:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419

Alright we're obviously in need of some laughs because of all this, I know I was so I added some fail to the You Laugh You Loose (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=p=55796#post55796) threads :arg:2008-10-18 04:13:00

Author:
KAPBAM
Posts: 1348

what's the news with the australian release date? so far it has just been confirmation of USA and EU.2008-10-18 04:58:00

Author:
muttjones
Posts: 843

delayed 3 weeks for like 2 words darn XD

That was just an assumption. The delay is only until the 27th.


what's the news with the australian release date? so far it has just been confirmation of USA and EU.

Well, the USA was pushed back 6 days, the UK was pushed back 7 days, so maybe AU will be pushed back 8 days.		2008-10-18 05:01:00

Author:
Unknown User

Has he had his say here yet? I want to know if he finds the lyrics offending.

I never really gave my opinion on the matter, only on people's responses.
It's not the lyrics that are offensive, it's the fact that the Qur'an was directly quoted in a song, and the Qur'an is never to be used in conjunction with music.


I actually think the words were very deep. It's not a threat but a comment on life.

I thought it was said somewhere officially, the words were a language other than islamic.

They were about life, but it sounds like a terrorist message because it's taken out of context.
The words were in Arabic, but it was with an African dialect, which is why many Arabic speakers may not have recognized it.


I think the offense actually comes from the mixing of Qur?anic verse with music. Any Muslims that could back this up?

Exactly what the problem is.


Don't quote me on this but I think the issue here is that in Islam they refrain from using actual quotes from the Quran within music and therefore hence the complaint. Religious songs called nasheeds are usually in praise of Allah but they are told to refrain from the usage of direct quotes due to it being the word of god. Like i said I am a Muslim but I'm presuming that this is why this has caused such a hassle, but feel free to correct me if this isn't the main point

Anasheed (plural for nasheed) are basically "songs" that are not accompanied with music, so the general public is more lenient when religion is mixed in with it.
Although they are still forced to refrain from using direct quotes from the Qur'an.

Also, nasheeds don't have to be in praise of God, they can be about anything, really.
Although they're mostly used for positive thoughts and the like.

I'm more than happy to answer a few questions, but it's when people start throwing out words without thinking that I shall refrain from posting.
I refuse to get mixed in such touchy matters.		2008-10-18 05:34:00

Author:
ScytheOfGrim
Posts: 438

thanx for clearing this up
oh and this is the 295th post on this thread this is going to be a big one		2008-10-18 05:43:00

Author:
RAINFIRE
Posts: 1101

Funny thing is I recently started reading the book, Life of Pi, a story about a boy who is a practicing Hindu, Christian, and Muslim, and I have picked up a thing or two about these religions.

Anyways,

I ask ScytheOfGrim:

Okay, I get it now. Quotes + Music = Bad. So besides just in LittleBigPlanet, would that song be considered offensive on its own?

Were there any other quotes from the Qur'an besides the two mentioned?		2008-10-18 05:53:00

Author:
Unknown User

I never really gave my opinion on the matter, only on people's responses.
It's not the lyrics that are offensive, it's the fact that the Qur'an was directly quoted in a song, and the Qur'an is never to be used in conjunction with music.



They were about life, but it sounds like a terrorist message because it's taken out of context.
The words were in Arabic, but it was with an African dialect, which is why many Arabic speakers may not have recognized it.



Exactly what the problem is.



Anasheed (plural for nasheed) are basically "songs" that are not accompanied with music, so the general public is more lenient when religion is mixed in with it.
Although they are still forced to refrain from using direct quotes from the Qur'an.

Also, nasheeds don't have to be in praise of God, they can be about anything, really.
Although they're mostly used for positive thoughts and the like.

I'm more than happy to answer a few questions, but it's when people start throwing out words without thinking that I shall refrain from posting.
I refuse to get mixed in such touchy matters.

Thanks Scythe very informative, I apologise if you were unfortunate enough to see any of the inane ramblings before we got to them and dealt with them.

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-18 05:55:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

Funny this is I recently started reading the book, Life of Pi, a story about a boy who is a practicing Hindu, Christian, and Muslim, and have picked up a thing or two about these religions.

Anyways,

I ask ScytheOfGrim:

Okay, I get it now. Quotes + Music = Bad. So besides just in LittleBigPlanet, would that song be considered offensive on its own?

Were there any other quotes from the Qur'an besides the two mentioned?

I haven't listened to the full song, but I have listened to the extract presented by that Solid-guy, so I'm not entirely sure.

The song on its own is definitely offensive.
Now the question arises:
Why no action against the song itself?

Chances are that song is banned within Islamic countries.

There are many ongoings that you guys don't know about.
CoD4 is banned in the Middle East for numerous reasons.
GTA IV is also banned here for... even more reasons.

There are a number of games that are banned here, but that's not to say that you can't get your hands on them, of course...
It's just that official providers won't sell them.

EDIT:
@ Quozl:
The stuff posted here is close to nothing compared to other sites. xD
Although I am grateful for the speed with which things were dealt with.		2008-10-18 05:58:00

Author:
ScytheOfGrim
Posts: 438

That was just an assumption. The delay is only until the 27th.



Well, the USA was pushed back 6 days, the UK was pushed back 7 days, so maybe AU will be pushed back 8 days.

Has to do with when games release - each country is different. US usually does tuesday.		2008-10-18 06:25:00

Author:
mosdl
Posts: 10

ooo wow this is #300 we are really moving here with this thread2008-10-18 06:36:00

Author:
RAINFIRE
Posts: 1101

Personally I've been happy with the response and the speed the mods have reacted by . Usually you don't see this kind of swiftness in many , while others go undetected or ignored but glad on the stance these boards have taken and further show the respect and understanding that everyone has here.2008-10-18 06:50:00

Author:
Kyashu
Posts: 447

The release date is October 27th.

Same week.

No need to get the panties in a jumble!		2008-10-18 07:03:00

Author:
JigsawGeneral
Posts: 46

And I just pre-ordered today too >_<...It felt so draining to come home from pre-ordering and go to kotaku to only see lbp being delayed when I expected to be playing on a tuesday >_<2008-10-18 07:07:00

Author:
Katagi
Posts: 62

Hey guys,

I have checked as many of the official news sites as I could find, and I couldn't find an answer to this, so please bear with me if it's blindingly obvious on one that you have seen.

Has it been confirmed if existing copies will be online patched to be compatable with the rest, or, will we lucky few need to get new copies upon release as they won't work online anymore?

Cheers,

flak		2008-10-18 08:03:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

Has to do with when games release - each country is different. US usually does tuesday.

What country do you live in? I've never heard of any stereotype that says games usually release on a Tuesday in the US, and it's a Monday now so...		2008-10-18 08:34:00

Author:
Unknown User

Do we have any official word about a UK release date from sony yet? I'm sick of waiting.

EDIT: Flak, check http://www.mediamolecule.com/ 		2008-10-18 09:07:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Do we have any official word about a UK release date from sony yet? I'm sick of waiting.

If you took the time to read for yourself, then you wouldn't have to wait as long. October 31st for the UK, which was found out a lot earlier today, so it's your own fault for not finding out.		2008-10-18 09:09:00

Author:
Unknown User

If you took the time to read for yourself, then you wouldn't have to wait as long. October 31st for the UK, which was found out a lot earlier today, so it's your own fault for not finding out.
Sorry, what?

I've been following this thread from page one. The only places saying Oct. 31st are not official. I wanted to know if sony themselves have commented on it.		2008-10-18 09:12:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Sorry, what?

I've been following this thread from page one. The only places saying Oct. 31st are not official. I wanted to know if sony themselves have commented on it.

Who says all the information in the world is compiled into one thread?

https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=t=3258&highlight=delay		2008-10-18 09:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

Hence why I asked "Do we have any official word about a UK release date from sony yet?", which we do not. Sony haven't said anything about it.2008-10-18 09:19:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

This sucks so badly, I can't believe it.2008-10-18 09:22:00

Author:
mongoose7
Posts: 473

Hence why I asked "Do we have any official word about a UK release date from sony yet?", which we do not. Sony haven't said anything about it.

Dude, that's the release date. Get over it. You're trying to win a dumb fight.		2008-10-18 09:28:00

Author:
Unknown User

I'm not trying to win any fight. I want to know if anybody has any info about the release date from sony themselves. I want to believe it's Oct. 31st but how trustworthy are the two sites that said it?2008-10-18 09:30:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Do we have any official word about a UK release date from sony yet? I'm sick of waiting.

EDIT: Flak, check http://www.mediamolecule.com/

I have been checking them. I've skimmed through the comments too, haven't seen any word on if the early released copies will work. Oh well. If they don't I'll be buying a second copy...		2008-10-18 09:32:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

I have been checking them. I've skimmed through the comments too, haven't seen any word on if the early released copies will work. Oh well. If they don't I'll be buying a second copy...

Here you go.


Sony are going to announce new dates and information re discs for each territory soon. We?ll keep you posted! The patch is ready from our side and I imagine it will go live at the same time as the game. More info when we get it.		2008-10-18 09:34:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I'm not trying to win any fight. I want to know if anybody has any info about the release date from sony themselves. I want to believe it's Oct. 31st but how trustworthy are the two sites that said it?

Alright then, how trustworthy is this site then? We're not Sony, and yet you're still here. You wouldn't believe us if we said we got a release date from Sony, since we're not Sony. Why don't you go ask Sony then since no one else on the planet can be trusted.		2008-10-18 09:35:00

Author:
Unknown User

Because i've fallen for this kind of stuff before (about release dates). Don't get all sarcastic on me, it's alright for you, sony have announced your release date.
I'm not saying those sites are untrustworthy, but sony is yet to say anything about it themselves. I can trust the people on these forums because every time somebody posts about something like that there is a source. Leave it now, i give up.		2008-10-18 09:40:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Thanks Crowler. I had searched up and down that page with no luck.

Cheers,

flak		2008-10-18 09:43:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

Thanks Crowler. I had searched up and down that page with no luck.

Cheers,

flak
No problem.		2008-10-18 09:44:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

Right guys lets leave the petty bickering out of the thread. Sony will release the new dates when they have them until an official release from them it's all speculation. Clank you don't speak for this site so please don't infer in your posts that you do, leave that up to LBP and Cartman.

Cheers QuozL		2008-10-18 10:33:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921

What is with the vague wording Sony is using with the North American release date?? They say "Shipping the week of October 27th". What does that mean? It will start shipping from the warehouse to the store on the 27th, or sometime during the week of the 27th. Or does it mean it will be available at retail on the 27th or sometime during the week of the 27th? The week of the 27th could be anytime between Oct 27th through Nov 2. Would be nice if they could give us a concrete release date that we can go to the store and pick up the game.

Looks like this might be the kind of situation where we might have to be calling our local stores everyday starting on the 27th to see if they got it in yet.		2008-10-18 10:41:00

Author:
WeeB
Posts: 16

Just saw this:
http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/3962.html

I REALLY hope this isn't true.		2008-10-18 11:10:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

Me too... 2008-10-18 11:30:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

...

*jumps off skyscraper on a cliff*

LOL. Why a skyscraper on a cliff? Is a cliff not enough?!?!?!		2008-10-18 11:39:00

Author:
mongoose7
Posts: 473

*Pinches Self*
...
... This is my worst nightmare...

I am still getting this game, I cannot explain all the feelings I have at the moment.

But it's noones fault really, we just have to count to 10 and think about what a great game Media Molecule have produced.

My only major concern is that this website will fall apart, please people, hold together for a little longer, then we can enjoy this amazing experiance (speeling lol?).

Will.		2008-10-18 11:44:00

Author:
Callahan90
Posts: 98

...But it's noones fault really...
It's solid_08's fault.		2008-10-18 12:12:00

Author:
Robber
Posts: 46

If anything, don't you think we should be thanking him?

Stop typing and think about it.		2008-10-18 12:16:00

Author:
ScytheOfGrim
Posts: 438

If anything, don't you think we should be thanking him?

Stop typing and think about it.

I agree that we shouldn't be outright against what this guy did. He reported something he found offensive and that's the end of it. It's rather presumptuous for us to think he was being malicious even in the slightest. After all, he found a way to obtain an early copy of LBP, something most of us here would have definitely done if given the chance.

What I'm saying is this guy is obviously a big fan of what Media Molecule's effort and product. Most likely his intention was only meant to inform the developers and publishers; he could have never guessed there would be an all-out recall of the game...		2008-10-18 12:56:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

My inhuman rage has now settled to a minor annoyance now that I know it's just one week. I can manage that.

EDIT: Okay, maybe not. Is there a confirmed European date yet?		2008-10-18 13:04:00

Author:
UmJammerSully
Posts: 1097

Sorta. Two websites (PSU & Electronic Theatre) say 31st of october, but I haven't heard anything from sony themselves. Sounds like a good date though.2008-10-18 13:18:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I'm just glad that the game didn't get released with the track in and then someone noticed it.

If that had happened, the game may have been banned completely in some countries and possible millions of people may have missed out.

If its only delayed by a week, I think we can all probably calm down.

EDIT: I just listened to the song, and its actually very nice (except the offensive part, obviously), I think that a version of the song, but without the quotes should still be in the game, personally.		2008-10-18 14:03:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

Sorta. Two websites (PSU & Electronic Theatre) say 31st of october, but I haven't heard anything from sony themselves. Sounds like a good date though.

Of course, this isn't official but it's from this morning so... take it for what it's worth.

Ultimately, reporting October 27 for North America and a worldwide release of November 14. However, it's very likely they're just reporting November 14 as there has been no official word from Sony to say otherwise.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/10/18/littlebigplanet-delayed-possible-offence-to-muslims/		2008-10-18 14:09:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

BAD NEWS: From what I've seen, most sites are reporting LBP's release to be: TBC 2008. So, it could be December!

However, most likely seems to be 27th for the USA, but seriously, the rest of the world is 14th November? I hope the UK one comes out on the 31st as said before.

EDIT: On the official PS site (US) it says "October" as the release.
EDIT: On the official PS site (UK) it says "2008" as the release.		2008-10-18 14:16:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

http://www.psu.com/Media-Molecule-talks-LBP-delay,-reveals-new-release-dates-News--a0005127-p0.php

MM says that these are the official EU & US dates.

Still wondering about Uk/Ireland though...hopefully it'll be the 31st of October too.

2008-10-18 14:48:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

http://www.psu.com/Media-Molecule-talks-LBP-delay,-reveals-new-release-dates-News--a0005127-p0.php

MM says that these are the official EU & US dates.

Still wondering about Uk/Ireland though...hopefully it'll be the 31st of October too.



I posted this back on Page 13. Seems to be the closest thing we have to official word at the moment.		2008-10-18 15:35:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I posted this back on Page 13. Seems to be the closest thing we have to official word at the moment.

Oh sorry, didn't notice that. But yeah, I hope these are the final dates.		2008-10-18 15:46:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/103/benderuw7.jpg

"Thats it I'm going to build my own LittleBigPlanet... with hookers and blackjack."		2008-10-18 16:40:00

Author:
LittleBigChav
Posts: 175

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/103/benderuw7.jpg

"Thats it I'm going to build my own LittleBigPlanet... with hookers and blackjack."

Okay, forget the hookers... Ah, screw the whole thing.		2008-10-18 16:54:00

Author:
UmJammerSully
Posts: 1097

OMG, it delayed. So sad. I want it now! Arrg! Why must we wait?!2008-10-18 18:33:00

Author:
gimpyjosh
Posts: 24

I've been checking my local Best Buy stores here in Canada and it says the release date is Nov. 3

Hopefully it comes in earlier but it looks like it will be 2 weeks for me now.		2008-10-18 18:44:00

Author:
StraightSix
Posts: 17

If I had a paypal account or something I'd be mailing copies off to you guys left and right at cost. Man..2008-10-18 22:08:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

If I had a paypal account or something I'd be mailing copies off to you guys left and right at cost. Man..

Wait...What? Do you have multiple copies of the game already or something?		2008-10-18 22:55:00

Author:
UmJammerSully
Posts: 1097

I got bored today, so I made a video about the delay in iMovie.

LShn0lAzUCg		2008-10-19 00:56:00

Author:
jaredririe20
Posts: 3

Wait...What? Do you have multiple copies of the game already or something?

No, but it will release in the states first. If it was a large enough gap I would have tried to hook up everyone. I WISH I had a single copy. It's going to be a collectors item. 		2008-10-19 01:12:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601

I asked Babbage's today as well as Gamestop. Both said October 27th. Not the week of October 27th, BUT on that very day.2008-10-19 01:44:00

Author:
aer0blue
Posts: 1603

I asked Babbage's today as well as Gamestop. Both said October 27th. Not the week of October 27th, BUT on that very day.

oh thats good news i took it as they would ship it that week and whenever it got the stores sometime that week I would get a call to pick it up.		2008-10-19 01:51:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

oh thats good news i took it as they would ship it that week and whenever it got the stores sometime that week I would get a call to pick it up.

Yeah thats how i saw it too
Hope we get ours soon after or i might have to go on a rampage		2008-10-19 01:52:00

Author:
dorien
Posts: 2767

Yeah thats how i saw it too
Hope we get ours soon after or i might have to go on a rampage

good god not a rampage *heads to basement*		2008-10-19 01:56:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

I got bored today, so I made a video about the delay in iMovie.

LShn0lAzUCg

lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!		2008-10-19 02:05:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

I got bored today, so I made a video about the delay in iMovie.

*video*
This is a personal qualm, but I'm going to say it anyway:

The delay is not Media Molecule's fault. It is Sony's fault, as Sony made the decision to recall it after Media Molecule had a patch ready to go, a patch which would fix the problem without any delays needing to be made. If you're going to place the blame anywhere, place it with Sony.		2008-10-19 02:28:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

This is a personal qualm, but I'm going to say it anyway:

The delay is not Media Molecule's fault. It is Sony's fault, as Sony made the decision to recall it after Media Molecule had a patch ready to go, a patch which would fix the problem without any delays needing to be made. If you're going to place the blame anywhere, place it with Sony.

I wasn't sure, I had Sony originally, but changed it to MM.		2008-10-19 02:30:00

Author:
jaredririe20
Posts: 3

love the video. even if i am not that mad about it. it is still funny.

and i absolutley LOVE that music.		2008-10-19 02:38:00

Author:
chiropractor345
Posts: 161

I called Gamestop as well today to check to see if they were having a midnight release for Rock Band 2. As a follow-up, I asked about the availability of LBP around October 27; should I just check to see if it's in starting that day? The Gamestop employee was pretty sure they would not only have it on October 27 but would most likely have it for midnight release on October 26! Hoping that's really the case.2008-10-19 03:08:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I called Gamestop as well today to check to see if they were having a midnight release for Rock Band 2. As a follow-up, I asked about the availability of LBP around October 27; should I just check to see if it's in starting that day? The Gamestop employee was pretty sure they would not only have it on October 27 but would most likely have it for midnight release on October 26! Hoping that's really the case.

that would be awesome, which means they would have fixed everything and reshipped it in under a week.		2008-10-19 03:18:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

Do we still not have any sort of EU date? This is painful. I don't think I can mentally handle having to wait longer than October 31st. My brain will collapse within itself.2008-10-19 03:22:00

Author:
UmJammerSully
Posts: 1097

This is a personal qualm, but I'm going to say it anyway:

The delay is not Media Molecule's fault. It is Sony's fault, as Sony made the decision to recall it after Media Molecule had a patch ready to go, a patch which would fix the problem without any delays needing to be made. If you're going to place the blame anywhere, place it with Sony.

but then all the people who do not have the internet to download the patch would still have the offensive material on it.		2008-10-19 03:23:00

Author:
muttjones
Posts: 843

Do we still not have any sort of EU date? This is painful. I don't think I can mentally handle having to wait longer than October 31st. My brain will collapse within itself.

i do think that that will be the definite date for EU. For one thing, it sounds like (from what i can gather) that the US date is accurate. SO i assume that MM can get the correct date for EU.

Also, MM will do all it takes to get it shipped to EU as soon as possible. Dont you fret. 		2008-10-19 03:34:00

Author:
chiropractor345
Posts: 161

i do think that that will be the definite date for EU. For one thing, it sounds like (from what i can gather) that the US date is accurate. SO i assume that MM can get the correct date for EU.

Also, MM will do all it takes to get it shipped to EU as soon as possible. Dont you fret.

This is absolutely true. It would be a big mistake to delay the EU release any longer than one week like the North American territories. Let's just hope Sony agrees...		2008-10-19 05:09:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

i dont see why it would take them more time for EU i think its the 31 for u guys.2008-10-19 05:11:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

but then all the people who do not have the internet to download the patch would still have the offensive material on it.

Correct, but other games with offensive content have been released before online patching was available. A simpler and more environmentally friendly method would be to offer those people without online capability the chance to swap their potentially offensive Blu Ray disk for one that had been patched (i.e. Those being printed now) so that there would not be so many wasted Blu-Rays and less environmental impact of shipping evertything back in, then back out again. It probably would have cost less too.		2008-10-19 09:07:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084

Correct, but other games with offensive content have been released before online patching was available. A simpler and more environmentally friendly method would be to offer those people without online capability the chance to swap their potentially offensive Blu Ray disk for one that had been patched (i.e. Those being printed now) so that there would not be so many wasted Blu-Rays and less environmental impact of shipping evertything back in, then back out again. It probably would have cost less too.

The problem with this is that here in the Middle East, the official (and unofficial) video game retailers will not accept this, and will not abide by this.

Sadly, it's like Sony has no control over how the games are sold once they're into our market, it's all up to the retailer themselves whether they wish to replace the discs or not.

To be completely honest with you, Sony taking back all the copies was easily their best option.		2008-10-19 13:36:00

Author:
ScytheOfGrim
Posts: 438

Correct, but other games with offensive content have been released before online patching was available. A simpler and more environmentally friendly method would be to offer those people without online capability the chance to swap their potentially offensive Blu Ray disk for one that had been patched (i.e. Those being printed now) so that there would not be so many wasted Blu-Rays and less environmental impact of shipping evertything back in, then back out again. It probably would have cost less too.

Of course that would be better but lets face it...That wouldn't work. Even if there is the option of taking your copy back to get a modified version, that will not stop dissenters and angry people from attacking the game. Even if it charges the person nothing to exchange it, no matter how easy it is, people will still attack this game.

This is really their only option... Well, their only reasonable option.		2008-10-19 14:06:00

Author:
chiropractor345
Posts: 161

OK im confused whats the release date for europe?2008-10-19 17:34:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

The release for Europe is said to be either 31st of October, or 14th November.
None of these dates are official though.

I wonder when Sony will tell us the final dates...grr		2008-10-19 19:16:00

Author:
Dabog
Posts: 74

I went to the littlebigplanet pop up shop in london today and they said it should be by the end of october (yes they were aware of the delay lol) but one person said the last week of october/start of november.2008-10-19 19:18:00

Author:
Crowlerzors
Posts: 241

I haven't got time to read the whole thread but..

I just wanted to say one thing. Grow up its only a short delay, no reason to throw your toys out of the pram for the sake of 3 weeks, it really isn't that important. Yes you can boycott Sony or slag them of but it will not make a jot of difference.



To be honest if I was Sony I would have done the same recall just to be sure.		2008-10-20 11:14:00

Author:
Piratepete
Posts: 110

I haven't got time to read the whole thread but..

I just wanted to say one thing. Grow up its only a short delay, no reason to throw your toys out of the pram for the sake of 3 weeks, it really isn't that important. Yes you can boycott Sony or slag them of but it will not make a jot of difference.



To be honest if I was Sony I would have done the same recall just to be sure.

I question who that is aimed at, most people here have taken it well.		2008-10-20 12:59:00

Author:
UmJammerSully
Posts: 1097

I question who that is aimed at, most people here have taken it well.

Indeed. I understand you were short of time and didn't read the whole thread, but the majority of us are being quite civilized and patient about the matter.		2008-10-20 13:15:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Indeed. I understand you were short of time and didn't read the whole thread, but the majority of us are being quite civilized and patient about the matter.

Then it was aimed at the minority

No seriously there was a few saying they would boycott sony, or not buy the game because of the delay. I just thought this was a bit over the top. I mean a delay! in a videogame release! well i never

Also given the nature of the problem I would have done the same thing to be honest. Look at the death threats that Netherland newspaper got when they published a cartoon with Allah in it. I'm sure thats something neither Sony or MM want to get into.		2008-10-20 13:33:00

Author:
Piratepete
Posts: 110

Then it was aimed at the minority

No seriously there was a few saying they would boycott sony, or not buy the game because of the delay. I just thought this was a bit over the top. I mean a delay! in a videogame release! well i never

Also given the nature of the problem I would have done the same thing to be honest. Look at the death threats that Netherland newspaper got when they published a cartoon with Allah in it. I'm sure thats something neither Sony or MM want to get into.

All things you've said are worth noting. There is a minority who are threatening to boycott Sony over this. Good for them. They'll get over it and just be upset that they didn't get that "First Week" DLC when they finally do get around to getting the game: the second week it's available.

LittleBigPlanet is coming; no use trying to resist its calling.		2008-10-20 13:44:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I just get annoyed when people show their maturity (I was going to say age but it would be insulting), by getting all huffy because a game doesn't come out on time, or doesn't live up to expectations for some real or imagined reason. Some individuals seem to think they have a divine right to influence multi million pound companies because they are part of the 'community'. I'm afraid that is naive and leaves me with an image of them stamping their feet until Mummy gives them what they want.

I played Wow for a couple of years and they were the worst, but now that whole attitude just ranckles me.



I'm terribly sorry I just seemed to have had an unintentional rant. I don't know what came over me.

And relaarx.		2008-10-20 13:58:00

Author:
Piratepete
Posts: 110

I got some news for the European gamers. Little Big Planet will be released in Europe during the week of November 3rd. Sorry about that guys. i feel bad for you.2008-10-22 00:30:00

Author:
chiropractor345
Posts: 161

Then it was aimed at the minority

No seriously there was a few saying they would boycott sony, or not buy the game because of the delay. I just thought this was a bit over the top. I mean a delay! in a videogame release! well i never

*coughcoughDrunkcoughMiffycoughcoughMaltaycough*

Why? Whyhyhyyyyy...		2008-10-22 01:49:00

Author:
Unknown User

I got some news for the European gamers. Little Big Planet will be released in Europe during the week of November 3rd. Sorry about that guys. i feel bad for you.
It's not that bad, the days will be over before we know it. I actually think the game will be in stock a few days before the 3rd. Most of the time this is the case here in Europe, just hope it's the same this time. Like they had the US version of the game over here, on the 15th of October. Not on shelves, but they sold it to people who asked for it.

I didn't buy one myself, since I didn't knew how it would work with downloadable content.		2008-10-23 21:34:00

Author:
Stiff
Posts: 46

I feel sorry for all my mates in Europe. But when is the definate release date in the good ol US. Go NATO!!!2008-10-24 01:01:00

Author:
Coltfirearms
Posts: 269

well there is a definite distribution date on the 27, so if you are close enought to the 27 you will get it on the 27 but if you are farther away you will get it later, i do not know where the distribution points are but i would assume on the east coast or the west coast or both, but most likely the east because if the game goes by ship than eaast coast but i think that they might send planes to the largest populations cities (New York, Los Angeles) but i am just guessing, if anyone knows the distribution points in the US please speak up

Cheers!		2008-10-24 01:07:00

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RAINFIRE
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