LittleBigPlanet General #1
LBPCentral Logic Pack!
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| http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/../images/logic_pack/logic%20pack%20%28small%29.png The official LBPCentral Logic Pack is finally here! The LBPCentral Logic Pack is a three-tiered pack of LittleBigPlanet logic, designed and tested by some of the best Creators LittleBigPlanet has to offer. With an introduction, three huge content levels, and nine tutorials (each complete with their own individual companion level), this pack is the definitive LittleBigPlanet logic collection. The tutorials for these packs are kept as threads exclusively on LBPCentral. To access these tutorials, head to the the matching Overview thread for the pack you're currently working on and find the links to the tutorials near the bottom. Each Overview thread contains a basic, well, overview of the content offered in that pack, including a summary of the logic included and links to each tutorial. Beginner Pack Overview (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=p=329925#post329925) Intermediate Pack Overview (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=p=329952#post329952) Advanced Pack Overview (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=p=329986#post329986) Regardless of your Creative skill level, the Logic Pack will help you to clearly and easily understand how logic works and, more importantly, how to use it in your own levels. Excited to check it out? Simply search @LogicPack using the in-game search function and you'll be brought directly to the Logic Pack levels! For full details on what the Logic Pack is, click through for the rest of the article! What's the purpose of the Logic Pack? The Logic Pack was designed as a tool to bridge the gap between those who don't understand logic and those who do. We've noticed that gap isn't closing any faster than it was when LittleBigPlanet initially launched, so we're hoping to help by offering up a standard set of logic tools for Creators to use in their own levels. What does the Logic Pack have to offer? In order to bridge the gap between Creators, we've included lots of content, most of which is designed specifically for a certain skill level. The Logic Pack comes with: Three main logic "packs": a Beginner Pack, an Intermediate Pack, and an Advanced Pack. Each pack contains a different set of logic aimed at a different Creative skill level. All of the logic is designed to be simple, useful, and thermo-efficient. A demonstration level for each pack of logic, complete with individual demos for each logic tool. A copyable "Logic Vault" for each pack, so that the player can store the logic on their moon for retrieval online or offline. Three in-depth tutorials for each pack, complete with screenshots and a copyable companion level for each tutorial. That means nine total tutorials. Each tutorial can take anywhere from thirty minutes to two or more hours to complete, depending on the difficulty level. Why not just wait until Mm releases an official Logic Pack? Media Molecule has no plans to officially produce any logic-related content, now or any time in the future. The tools Creators have been able to design without official support are phenomenal, and the fact that they're designed with the in-game tools means they're also endlessly customizable. However, just to reassure you, Media Molecule has played the Logic Pack, and they love it so much that they've helped to promote it for us. If you'd like to read what they think, just read what they have to say in their official Logic Pack announcement article (http://www.mediamolecule.com/2009/11/13/learn-about-logic-take-a-tour-of-logictech/). How do I get my hands on it? As mentioned earlier, you can access this content simply by searching @LogicPack using the in-game search function. The tutorials, however, are hosted exclusively on LBPCentral (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=102) - you won't find them anywhere else! | 2009-11-13 14:23:00 Author: ConfusedCartman  Posts: 3729 |
| Woop Woop!!! | 2009-11-13 14:25:00 Author: rtm223  Posts: 6497 |
| WOOOHOOO!!! Finally! I'm gonna get on this right as soon as I am ungrounded! AHHHH! I die now! | 2009-11-13 14:27:00 Author: iGotFancyPants  Posts: 1355 |
It is finally revealed!!  | 2009-11-13 14:28:00 Author: Zwollie  Posts: 2173 |
| xD A randomizer! You people tried to trick us @_@ LOL I actually am about to punch my sister in the face... because I am so excited for this. GOSH DARNIT! | 2009-11-13 14:34:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| WOW this is such a grea addition thankyou so much, although i will remake most of this rater than use it as it is (Mainly because i'm used to using y own logic but i will deffinately take a good luck and copy the vaults. | 2009-11-13 14:41:00 Author: robotiod  Posts: 2662 |
| So my guess was right!! This is really awesome. I will play all that tonight. May this pack help the community get over Ramps levels!! . | 2009-11-13 14:44:00 Author: RangerZero  Posts: 3901 |
| This is very helpful, I've always had trouble getting my head around logic! :star::star::star::star::star: | 2009-11-13 14:48:00 Author: Ayneh  Posts: 2454 |
| flaming tire) have been omitted. To begin, we suggest playing the sample level titled Tutorial 3.1 - Creating a Chase Scene. The chase scene is 3.2 not 3.1, its not a big thing but it should be corrected really. | 2009-11-13 14:49:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Nice, this should come in handy. Although I personally try to use as little logic as possible. I've spread the word (http://www.littlebigland.com/little-big-planet-ps3/lbpcentral-logic-pack-now-available/) about it, by the way. Hope you don't mind. | 2009-11-13 14:56:00 Author: Syroc  Posts: 3193 |
| Congrats guys!! | 2009-11-13 15:07:00 Author: jwwphotos  Posts: 11383 |
| Not trying to pat myself on the back or anything (ok yes am I am) but I called this on the second teaser 18th post here (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=325760&postcount=18). That's not saying much as I guessed every other possibility as well during the teaser period. And the prize is... the same thing I got for doing a good job while in the Navy. For those who don't know... the reward for doing a good job in the Navy is like having an accident in your Navy Blues. No one notices... but it gives you a warm feeling.  Thank you very much to all that sacrificed their own time to put this together. Thats what I like about LBP. So many people sacrificing their time and talent for the betterment of the community. LBPC community rocks! | 2009-11-13 15:10:00 Author: enodrawkcab  Posts: 238 |
| Yay, it's out! I'm so happy... *tear* I can get my life back... That last little announcement in the MM post is quite good news.  | 2009-11-13 15:12:00 Author: comphermc  Posts: 5338 |
| Yay, it's out! I'm so happy... *tear* I can get my life back... That last little announcement in the MM post is quite good news. Ooohhhh... Crowns! Thanks, guys, for letting me be a part of this! And ConfusedCartman.... can't wait to see what you do with your next level, now that I see what you can do! | 2009-11-13 15:19:00 Author: CCubbage  Posts: 4430 |
| So, what did any of this have to do with oranges, anyway? I guess I can finally come clean now. I got to beta test this wonderful logic pack, and i have to say that this is a wonderful thing that these guys have done for us. As anyone who's worked with me in online create can confirm, I am quite terrible with logic, and something like this is a much needed addition to the game. I know it will help me out greatly. The logic pack is awesome, quite simply put. The levels are clean, look better than media molecule's levels, and they're just so well thought out. I posted something over at the mm blog, too, but congrats to all of you. These are some of the most well deserved crowns that I've ever encountered. | 2009-11-13 15:20:00 Author: xkappax  Posts: 2569 |
| Not trying to pat myself on the back or anything (ok yes am I am) but I called this on the second teaser 18th post here (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=325760&postcount=18). That's not saying much as I guessed every other possibility as well during the teaser period. And the prize is... the same thing I got for doing a good job while in the Navy. For those who don't know... the reward for doing a good job in the Navy is like having an accident in your Navy Blues. No one notices... but it gives you a warm feeling. Oh, we noticed! You actually sent the Logic Pack Team into panic mode with your cunning detective skills! We still had three teasers left, so we had to try and throw people off of our trail, which meant ignoring your well thought out hypothesis and inventing some of our own! Comic Sack anyone? | 2009-11-13 15:22:00 Author: mrsupercomputer  Posts: 1335 |
| Awesome dudes!! You got crowned! Congrats mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CuzFeeshe, rtm223, and ConfusedCartman! Cool... get to rub shoulders with royalty at LBPC now! | 2009-11-13 15:22:00 Author: enodrawkcab Posts: 238 |
| Actually, enodrawcab, it was your detective work that sparked that crazy derailing of the 2nd teaser thread. Didn't you wonder why it got sooooo off track? | 2009-11-13 15:24:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| I think if you look through the teaser threads, somewhere in the region of 50% of the posts are people who were "in the loop", attempting to undermine (or shout nonsense over the top of) anyone saying something accurate | 2009-11-13 15:27:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| So, what did any of this have to do with oranges, anyway? Ummmmm... Oranges are like sunshine... If you understand logic in LBP then you feel that warm glow like sunshine? Heck I dunno... it's tangy!? I figured it out early on and then my suspicions were confirmed when I saw those on my friends list publishing as well as testing these. So rather than ruining any surprise for them, I just had fun with the citrus flavored adventure. | 2009-11-13 15:28:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| I think if you look through the teaser threads, somewhere in the region of 50% of the posts are people who were "in the loop", attempting to undermine (or shout nonsense over the top of) anyone saying something accurate Yes, saying something accurate or "logical" I'm good at shouting out nonsense, so no one really thought anything was weird, I guess. | 2009-11-13 15:29:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| @enodrawcab : Don't worry, those in the know did notice that you had hit the nail on the head. I also want to congratulate all of the creators who made this project happen. Your dedication to the LBP community is admirable. This is a great tool for creators big and small, and even I have learned a great deal more about using logic in LBP. I encourage everyone to give these levels a go, you'll be amazed at what you can learn! | 2009-11-13 15:30:00 Author: Gilgamesh  Posts: 2536 |
| Sounds good... ill be sure to check this out *sigh*  | 2009-11-13 15:32:00 Author: Kern  Posts: 5078 |
| Sounds good... ill be sure to check this out *sigh* Sorry, Kernel. I had to play dumb when you asked me if I wanted to part of your Logic Pack. | 2009-11-13 15:35:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| @mrsupercomputer "comic sack" lol... I was like... uh... yeah I guess that could be a good idea... but a logic pack would be so much better. And I'm glad I could return the favor to you guys for all the anticipation anxiety you guys created with those teasers. It took me forever to come up with a scientist/professor type person that was wearing a hard hat for my picture matchups to the teasers. http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/11/11/129024275453458780.jpg Now to try to figure out which pic goes with who... mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CuzFeeshe, rtm223, and ConfusedCartman. @xkappazx Yes I did wonder... I was like... wow... for a teaser thread... these guys sure are going off topic. lol You guys have provided me with a big smile that is hurting my face... reward enough! | 2009-11-13 15:36:00 Author: enodrawkcab Posts: 238 |
| Congrats on the crowns guys! Very nice work! Well, now that my sister is... gone, I guess I can play this. :eek: | 2009-11-13 15:37:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| I haven't rushed over to my PS3 like that in a long time. This sounds great! The Logic Pack was made over five long months by mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CuzFeeshe, rtm223, and ConfusedCartman, all of whom shall now be crowned for their impressive and helpful work! Good work guys! Five months!?! How did you survive!?! Congratulations on becoming members of the LBP Royal Family! I'll post pack once I've tried them out. | 2009-11-13 15:39:00 Author: Leather-Monkey  Posts: 2266 |
| Five months!?! I hadn't realised it has been that long!!! 2009/07/06 - I still have original PM. I think CC was thinking about it for a while beforehand as well. | 2009-11-13 15:47:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Well done everyone and congratulations on getting your crowns. | 2009-11-13 16:13:00 Author: Matt 82  Posts: 1096 |
| Thanks for doing this guys. I'm sure that everyone on this site will learn something from it. | 2009-11-13 16:15:00 Author: wexfordian  Posts: 1904 |
| Awesome !!! | 2009-11-13 16:22:00 Author: Takelow  Posts: 1355 |
| good job comph, i wouldnt have known you were involved, But i saw you playing on that level!!! How to create a chase scene!!!!!! | 2009-11-13 16:27:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Five months eh? It does alright... Ah screw it, I'll come clean, this is awesome. Congrats on the crowns as well You guys deserve them. Especially CC , can I have the spare then? | 2009-11-13 16:32:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291 |
| Thanks guys! And congrats for the crowns! Great! My friends did this! First on MM blog!!! | 2009-11-13 17:05:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
| Wowzer - very impressive, very professional and very helpful. Very well done to all involved. | 2009-11-13 17:10:00 Author: MrsSpookyBuz  Posts: 1492 |
| Oh, didn't know about the crowns yet!! Very well deserved, congratulations to all!! | 2009-11-13 17:13:00 Author: Zwollie Posts: 2173 |
| They were amazing! Fun to play, great to watch and extremely easy to understand! Why can't learning always be this fun? Thank you to everyone involved! | 2009-11-13 17:13:00 Author: Leather-Monkey Posts: 2266 |
| Cool! Think I have a good grasp of logic but I'll play 'em next time I'm on! | 2009-11-13 17:18:00 Author: chimpskylark  Posts: 335 |
| OMG! This sounds like it will be very helpful and is much appreciated. I will be checking this out as soon as I get on. I am good with basic simple logic, but not the really complex stuff, though I will be checking out all 3 levels out of curiosity. This should be very useful. Thank you all! ^_^ | 2009-11-13 17:34:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| Congrats on the crowns guys. I've played all the levels and I loved them all. Well deserved, might I add. | 2009-11-13 17:40:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino  Posts: 5250 |
| Congratulations guys! Well deserved crownage too It's about time for you guys!!! Thanks for helping us logically challenged creators get a better grip on how that stuff works! | 2009-11-13 17:45:00 Author: Morgana25  Posts: 5983 |
| Well done guys and congrats. This is something I've really really been needing for ages and I'll definitely be starting with the basic stuff. Thanks. The only worry I have is the old 'profile won't save' issue. I'm already at the point of not being able to collect even a couple of stickers. I'm trying to make 'Sheriff Sack 2' but I can't make stuff for the level and keep it. I'm having to make stuff in the level and go into play mode to make sure it works ( having horrible thoughts of the 160 hour bug ) and then publish locked after each thing I make. Here's hoping that sometime soon I'll actually be able to collect the 'Logic Packs'. | 2009-11-13 17:56:00 Author: mistervista  Posts: 2210 |
| Now to try to figure out which pic goes with who... mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CuzFeeshe, rtm223, and ConfusedCartman. Haha, I don't think they match up to anyone in particular. They were just arbitrarily (and beautifully designed) by mrsupercomputer. Five months!?! How did you survive!?! I don't know! It was such a long time coming - I'm glad it's done. Would you all like me to write up something about the whole process behind this from start to finish? It was quite the adventure. Well done guys and congrats. This is something I've really really been needing for ages and I'll definitely be starting with the basic stuff. Thanks. The only worry I have is the old 'profile won't save' issue. I'm already at the point of not being able to collect even a couple of stickers. I'm trying to make 'Sheriff Sack 2' but I can't make stuff for the level and keep it. I'm having to make stuff in the level and go into play mode to make sure it works ( having horrible thoughts of the 160 hour bug ) and then publish locked after each thing I make. Here's hoping that sometime soon I'll actually be able to collect the 'Logic Packs'. If you aren't able to capture them on your own (key issues, or otherwise), I can send some of the logic your way. Many of them, however, are easily made on your own. We break down specifically how each piece works in the level itself. Each logic showcase room is accompanied by an optional "more information" room, which goes further into detail. Kudos to CC for his completeness in this regard. | 2009-11-13 18:04:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| This is undoubtedly a major milestone in the history of LittleBigPlanet and LBPCentral alike. Can't wait to test this... but I have quite a weekend ahead of me. Hopefully I'll have enough time. It's gonna be sick. | 2009-11-13 18:05:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Haha, I don't think they match up to anyone in particular. They were just arbitrarily (and beautifully designed) by mrsupercomputer. Forsome reason I think the advanced pack guy is mrsupercomputer. I always have done. Weird huh? | 2009-11-13 18:46:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| I don't know! It was such a long time coming - I'm glad it's done. Would you all like me to write up something about the whole process behind this from start to finish? It was quite the adventure. I do enjoy 'behind the scene' type stuff!  | 2009-11-13 19:03:00 Author: Leather-Monkey Posts: 2266 |
| congrats on releasing such a great tutorial for all of us , its good to have everyones ideas boosted even further when building now.:star: | 2009-11-13 19:20:00 Author: lurkochan  Posts: 36 |
| Cant say thanks enough but it is nice and refreshing to be reminded... if you dedicate yourself to something (and go full in) you will be ably rewarded! It's how I was brought-up and how I once believed (naively) the world to be... More proof-positive why LBP & LBPC are the places to be! Congratulations one and all I am very, very happy for you. | 2009-11-13 19:22:00 Author: Gravel  Posts: 1308 |
| thanks im the biggest noob at logic can't do anything | 2009-11-13 19:36:00 Author: rseah  Posts: 2701 |
| Okay, you've proved me very, very wrong. This is AWESOME! | 2009-11-13 19:51:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291 |
| im the biggest noob at logic The most complicated logic I've ever made was a permanent switch... and it was pre-made. Yeah I think it's safe to say I'm the biggest noob at logic. :hero: | 2009-11-13 20:05:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| Well done guys, what a great idea! And congrats on the crownage, I bow to your geeky logic skills. ; ) | 2009-11-13 20:06:00 Author: julesyjules  Posts: 1156 |
| I can't say thanks enough to ALL the people that took the time to make this for the community (even you beta testers that played an important part ). You guys REALLY do deserve everything you get and the crowns are well deserved I love this community and people like yourselves that put back into it your awesomeness. Well done peeps | 2009-11-13 20:11:00 Author: dorien  Posts: 2767 |
| http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YNS9O56ONgY/Ss4iYvn7y_I/AAAAAAAAB5Q/ENveG0r98vA/s200/Stamp_of_Approval.jpg Probably the most valuable thing I learned was to connect pistons to the top of the floor of elevators etc instead of connecting them to the bottom of the floor. Never thought of that. I always forget that connectors can go through walls. | 2009-11-13 20:14:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193 |
| Probably the most valuable thing I learned was to connect pistons to the top of the floor of elevators etc instead of connecting them to the bottom of the floor. Never thought of that. I always forget that connectors can go through walls. Wow, glad all of our hard work paid off...  | 2009-11-13 20:16:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| hey this is great CC thanks a lot i really couldnt get my head round the logic network thanks a lot | 2009-11-13 20:24:00 Author: lbpholic  Posts: 1304 |
| Really cool! Just thank you guys for having spent that much time to help others! And congratulations for the crowns! Beginners pack... here I am! | 2009-11-13 20:36:00 Author: dajdaj03  Posts: 1486 |
| Wow, glad all of our hard work paid off... Oh, the rest was nice too, but thanks to my superior intellect I only had to look at the pictures to understand them. Or you just made them very clear. Would have liked to see those state-changers or whatever you call them. | 2009-11-13 20:38:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193 |
| Yay! Bout time, I hated keeping this a secret... And thanks you-know-who for making me go near insane with this knowledges heheh <_> anyway, played the intro... tis great. Glad you're finally done- and especially glad CC finally got a crown XD But yeah, I'll play these later... I hope this helps people with LBP logic and stuff, and all that... yay for all your hard work peoplez! XD Woot woot! ... btw, I've been wondering this for a bit... does their work in this have anything to do with why mrsupercomputer and comphermc were made mods? comphermc was obvious anyway, but I thought that mrsupsercomputer got to be a mod after you working with him and trusting him with this... So, um, yeah ;o ANYWAY... great job! woot for epic projects! Now I just need to finish mine xD <_> | 2009-11-13 20:49:00 Author: RockSauron  Posts: 10882 |
| I've never seen so many people work so hard to have fun. This is great. To have all this stuff in one place is truly awesome. Thanks so much to everybody involved. Even the teaser stuff was a lot of fun. | 2009-11-13 20:53:00 Author: thanatos989  Posts: 248 |
| You guys are AWESOME. I totally needed this! I can't wait to try it! I've got like no time to spare, but I'll make some time. And congrats on the crowns too. | 2009-11-13 21:02:00 Author: hilightnotes  Posts: 1230 |
| Glad you're finally done- and especially glad CC finally got a crown XD Come on, you never thought that Mm hadn't already noticed how awesome he is? /sniped/sniped/sniped | 2009-11-13 21:02:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291 |
| Yeah, CC probably has another one lying around. | 2009-11-13 21:04:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Come on, you never thought that Mm hadn't already noticed how awesome he is? Well sure, I mean he HAS been very close to them and all that stuff. It's just that he never got a crown despite deserving it so much... unless he DID before. ah well, still, all you peoplez deserve them anyway. Great job everybodah =D | 2009-11-13 21:06:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| OMG i just sign in after a few days being absent. This is EPIC, only reason i'm turning on my PS3, and congrats on crowned | 2009-11-13 21:24:00 Author: springs86  Posts: 785 |
| Wow, this is really amazing, thank you very much to all involved in making this happen. I've never been so excited to go play LBP, I might just have to feign some injury so I can go home early from work. This will definitely bring out some high quality levels that were just waiting to happen! Congratulations to mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CCubbage, rtm223, and CC -certainly among the most well deserved and hard earned crowns around. | 2009-11-13 21:30:00 Author: ScoutsBoo  Posts: 63 |
| You know what, If all you guys were a collective whole. I'd marry you. Honestly. By force if neccessery. Seriously though, you all are wonderfull people. Well done. | 2009-11-13 21:42:00 Author: theamilien  Posts: 485 |
| I love you guys... | 2009-11-13 21:44:00 Author: Night Angel  Posts: 1214 |
| played them all except the beginer ones, will play them later, and i have to say. WOW. You guys are amazing, | 2009-11-13 21:45:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Well done to everyone involved, the levels are amazing. Well deserved crowns. :star::star::star::star::star: | 2009-11-13 21:45:00 Author: mrsvista  Posts: 755 |
| First it was fire, then the wheel, Followed by the locomotive, the automobile, the airplane the television the ps3 And Now, The Logic Pack from lbpc!! Great job guys, very useful indeed.. Deserving of crowns. | 2009-11-13 21:51:00 Author: KQuinn94Z  Posts: 1758 |
| You know what, If all you guys were a collective whole. I'd marry you. Honestly. By force if neccessery. Seriously though, you all are wonderfull people. Well done. I was a little wary about thanking your post - I didn't want to give you the wrong idea or anything. Still, thanks! Yay! Bout time, I hated keeping this a secret... And thanks you-know-who for making me go near insane with this knowledges heheh <_> anyway, played the intro... tis great. Glad you're finally done- and especially glad CC finally got a crown XD But yeah, I'll play these later... I hope this helps people with LBP logic and stuff, and all that... yay for all your hard work peoplez! XD Woot woot! ... btw, I've been wondering this for a bit... does their work in this have anything to do with why mrsupercomputer and comphermc were made mods? comphermc was obvious anyway, but I thought that mrsupsercomputer got to be a mod after you working with him and trusting him with this... So, um, yeah ;o ANYWAY... great job! woot for epic projects! Now I just need to finish mine xD <_> Thanks! And, yes, it had a good deal to do with it. I got to spend a lot of time working with them: setting deadlines, cooperating and making collective decisions, and working out disagreements. I learned a lot about the kind of people they both are and their work ethic, and all of that interpersonal experience lent itself to making them staff here. The project basically showed me that I could work with them in that capacity and they'd do a good job. And, I'm not knocking rtm or CCubbage in any way! They're both great guys, or I wouldn't have asked them to be a part of this. We just really want to avoid a "too many kings" situation, so that there's a balance between the community and the staff. | 2009-11-13 22:08:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| I was a little wary about thanking your post - I didn't want to give you the wrong idea or anything. Still, thanks! Dont worry about it. You have no say in the matter anyway. You will all soon be mine. ALL MINE. | 2009-11-13 22:18:00 Author: theamilien Posts: 485 |
| Dont worry about it. You have no say in the matter anyway. You will all soon be mine. ALL MINE. Ummm.... me and MrSuperComputer are already married, but I think the rest of the team are available.... | 2009-11-13 22:28:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Ummm.... me and MrSuperComputer are already married, but I think the rest of the team are available.... So... when did you guys tie-the-knot? You must be that preacher wife of his that we've all been hearing so much about... Oh, the English language, how fickle you are! | 2009-11-13 22:29:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Ummm.... me and MrSuperComputer are already married, but I think the rest of the team are available.... aww well thats that down the pan. Oh well. Good job everyone. enjoy your shiny, golden, glimmeriing, sparkling, twinkling, gleaming and any other word in the theasaurus, crown. You all deserve it. The rest of the team are available you say............. | 2009-11-13 22:31:00 Author: theamilien Posts: 485 |
| Well, when you are choosing your favourite, bear in mind that long distance relationships are far less likey to work out. At what point does this get wrong? I never quite know where "inappropriate" lies... | 2009-11-13 22:51:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Just played the four main levels and I'm about to get started on all the tutorials. I knew most of this stuff already, but there's deifnately some things that I've learned and probably that I'm still yet to learn. Forgetting how useful all this is for a minute, I think you've done a fantastic job on the levels themselves. Never before have I seen any kind of tutorial levels as well made as these. The visual style is consistent ( and I like how each level flowed in the next with some form of transport, like the story levels). In fact if I hadn't known who made these, I would assume that Mm had done them themselves. The organisation and production of them just shows what the community can do. Anyway, I'm off to go and spread the word. | 2009-11-13 22:53:00 Author: Nuclearfish  Posts: 927 |
| Wow, fantastic idea, and it looks like great execution as well! Way to help out the entire LBP community in a huge way. This is brilliant. | 2009-11-13 22:56:00 Author: Teebonesy  Posts: 1937 |
| Well, when you are choosing your favourite, bear in mind that long distance relationships are far less likey to work out. At what point does this get wrong? I never quite know where "inappropriate" lies... It start getting inappropriate when you mention thrupnies.... And CompherMC..... so you don't get confused..... "I" am married to a girl. MrSuperComputer is married to a girl. Neither MrSuperComputer nor myself are girls, therefore we aren't married to each other. Nuclearfish - Yup, they look great! Putting the heads of ConfusedCartman, CompherMC, and MrSuperComputer together for visuals was like sticking the Beatles together to make music. Awesome stuff! | 2009-11-13 22:56:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Nuclearfish - Yup, they look great! Putting the heads of ConfusedCartman, CompherMC, and MrSuperComputer together for visuals was like sticking the Beatles together to make music. Awesome stuff! Where is the other beatle? ;O By the way, judging by the tutorials/levels, this is one hell of a great pack. You guys must have put TONS of time into this and for that, me and the LBP and LBPC communities are very grateful... my sister isn't so grateful though...  I'm getting on this tonight and I'm about as excited as a cat that just escaped Hybrid! Thanks again everyone who was part of this! | 2009-11-13 23:05:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| Yay! I REALLY want the Logic Pack! Time to kick my brother off my PS3. | 2009-11-13 23:05:00 Author: Drakora  Posts: 392 |
| Whoa... Better snag this as soon as I get home Sunday. | 2009-11-13 23:17:00 Author: Xenifus  Posts: 306 |
| "I" am married to a girl. MrSuperComputer is married to a girl. Neither MrSuperComputer nor myself are girls, therefore we aren't married to each other. Wait a second.... that's a logical statement.... you could make a switch that would prove that. And thanks to your tutorials I saw that! yay! | 2009-11-13 23:25:00 Author: Morgana25 Posts: 5983 |
| Haha, I don't think they match up to anyone in particular. They were just arbitrarily (and beautifully designed) by mrsupercomputer. The intermediary one reminded me of Southpark's Chef though... Probably the most valuable thing I learned was to connect pistons to the top of the floor of elevators etc instead of connecting them to the bottom of the floor. Never thought of that. I always forget that connectors can go through walls. I noticed this in Rtm's other work, too. Only now do I understand why. Anyway, brilliant work, guys! The levels are great, but with all the tutorials on the site here, you did a huge amount of work! | 2009-11-13 23:30:00 Author: Rogar  Posts: 2284 |
| Sounds like I need to jump back into the game & complete these tutoriffic gems... So that's what you were publishing about a month ago while I was playing ever so diligently & getting all those pop-ups... Also, congrats!! Sounds great!! | 2009-11-14 00:42:00 Author: miltonTPS Posts: 126 |
| HOLY CRAP. I just now saw this at Mm's site. Kudos, party people. Seriously. This rocks so hard it makes my teeth hurt. | 2009-11-14 00:51:00 Author: coyote_blue  Posts: 422 |
| This rocks so hard it makes my teeth hurt. Stop eatin' mah logic rocks!!! I think comphy is lurking on this thread with his thanks finger poised lol *waits* | 2009-11-14 00:53:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Kapow. Thanks! | 2009-11-14 00:54:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Lol, you should have left that one unthanked. It would have been funnier! | 2009-11-14 00:55:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Sorry, it was a force of habit! | 2009-11-14 00:57:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Where is the other beatle? ;O Oops.... forgot about Ringo. Ok, rtm223 is Ringo, and I'm Pete Best.... | 2009-11-14 01:02:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Just got home from work... and find this announcement and thread. Can't wait to get dinner outta the way so I can go in and look at all of this. Thank you all for such impressive and selfless dedication and service to the community. And congratulations mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CuzFeeshe, rtm223, and ConfusedCartman for the crowns! Wow! Very nice indeed! | 2009-11-14 01:05:00 Author: v0rtex  Posts: 1878 |
| Really nice set of levels, guys . And thanks for all the logic! But, I want to capture the Intermediate (Not advanced, but intermediate) logic, but I need the MGS pack to edit the level, which I don't have. | 2009-11-14 01:39:00 Author: robbit10  Posts: 450 |
| Really nice set of levels, guys . And thanks for all the logic! But, I want to capture the Intermediate (Not advanced, but intermediate) logic, but I need the MGS pack to edit the level, which I don't have. Wait, that's weird... I will have to investigate once PSN starts working for me. It should work for you, as there's nothing in the level that is MGS related. I think this is the same issue that I've run into in the past, where once a level has MGS content in it, the same thinks it's there forever... I dunno. Thanks for the kind words. | 2009-11-14 01:47:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| I played a few of these levels earlier today, I forget which one it was but I saw one of the levels on Page 1 of the Highest Rated which is quite an achievement. The few that I played ranged from pretty simple obvious tutorials to the more complicated things to make, I'll be visiting the levels in the coming to days to learn more. Also, when playing one of the tutorial levels(think it was the Atmosphere one) the first thing I thought of was Basilisk Bog, at the time I didn't know who had created these levels but now that I do know I'm 99.9% sure it was mrsupercomputer, am I right? | 2009-11-14 01:48:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger  Posts: 787 |
| Also, when playing one of the tutorial levels(think it was the Atmosphere one) the first thing I thought of was Basilisk Bog, at the time I didn't know who had created these levels but now that I do know I'm 99.9% sure it was mrsupercomputer, am I right? Yup, that was him! | 2009-11-14 01:49:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Yup, that was him! Hmmm... maybe we should change the name of that tutorial to "How to create Basilisk Bog"! I had fun swinging through that one watching the changes. It definately gave me some ideas - visuals have always been a bit hard for me. | 2009-11-14 02:01:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Can you imagine how many new members will be coming to lbpcentral? This is easily gonna make it to cool pages in record time! You guys rock! Congrats on the crowns | 2009-11-14 02:12:00 Author: Incinerator22  Posts: 3251 |
| Awesome!! I think I already know how to do all the stuff in the beginers section, so I will move right along into the other sections. All of this is great, but why is the levels tab missing? | 2009-11-14 02:39:00 Author: Darth J464  Posts: 343 |
| BLAH, my mom won't let me on the ps3! I tried to explain to her the amount of epicness that lay wait on LBP but she instead grounded me for 'disrespecting her and her judgement'. So yes, I am once again grounded. I will play this though. Don't worry about that :kz: Oh and I read some of the tutorials and they are VERY well thought out and executed perfectly! Great job all! | 2009-11-14 02:44:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| Can you imagine how many new members will be coming to lbpcentral? This is easily gonna make it to cool pages in record time! You guys rock! Congrats on the crowns The first level I played of this pack was on the 1st Page of the Highest Rated, as I previously mentioned, after I was done playing it I went into the comments section and noticed that the level's first publish was over 20 days ago, which kinda surprised me as thought the obvious thing would be to completely republish the level to be able to get it onto the Cool Pages, this would ofcourse help even more people out and possibly bring in alot of new members. | 2009-11-14 02:46:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger Posts: 787 |
| I went into the comments section and noticed that the level's first publish was over 20 days ago, which kinda surprised me as thought the obvious thing would be to completely republish the level to be able to get it onto the Cool Pages, this would ofcourse help even more people out and possibly bring in alot of new members. This was a very calculated decision, don't worry. We chose to re-publish the Introduction level only, because we are aware of the track record of ratings a level hits Cool Pages. In this sense, the only traffic we expected to get to the subsequent levels would be through people who played the intro, and were excited about the next step. We were hoping the levels would do well, but frankly we're surprised that some of them were on the front page of Highest Rated. The Advanced Pack has since fallen back to page 3 of Highest Rated, but the Beginner and Intermediate Packs are hanging on to their front page position. The Introduction level is now on Page 3 of Cool Pages, and is the only level of the bunch without a 5 star rating, confirming our suspicions of the Cool Pages bunch. In this way, the Intro level has taken one for the team, in order to get us some exposure. Each main level has now over 500 plays and a 5 star rating, so we figure it's a success any way you hack it. Thanks for the concern, though. Edit: Mini Challenge. The first one to make their own version of either the chase scene or the Advanced Elevator Tutorial (with both tweaks) wins 250 xp. Those suckers took forever to write - you are going to learn something, dangit! First to do each one, gets the prize. 500 xp total. No copy and paste either - I'll know. | 2009-11-14 03:04:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| YA HOO!!! Finally some help with LOGIC! | 2009-11-14 03:24:00 Author: chezhead  Posts: 1063 |
| Good way to help the community, great job! | 2009-11-14 03:26:00 Author: warlord_evil  Posts: 4193 |
| This was a very calculated decision, don't worry. We chose to re-publish the Introduction level only, because we are aware of the track record of ratings a level hits Cool Pages. In this sense, the only traffic we expected to get to the subsequent levels would be through people who played the intro, and were excited about the next step. We were hoping the levels would do well, but frankly we're surprised that some of them were on the front page of Highest Rated. The Advanced Pack has since fallen back to page 3 of Highest Rated, but the Beginner and Intermediate Packs are hanging on to their front page position. The Introduction level is now on Page 3 of Cool Pages, and is the only level of the bunch without a 5 star rating, confirming our suspicions of the Cool Pages bunch. In this way, the Intro level has taken one for the team, in order to get us some exposure. Each main level has now over 500 plays and a 5 star rating, so we figure it's a success any way you hack it. Thanks for the concern, though. Edit: Mini Challenge. The first one to make their own version of either the chase scene or the Advanced Elevator Tutorial (with both tweaks) wins 250 xp. Those suckers took forever to write - you are going to learn something, dangit! First to do each one, gets the prize. 500 xp total. No copy and paste either - I'll know. Alright, that makes sense. Thanks! | 2009-11-14 03:30:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger Posts: 787 |
| Awesome!! I think I already know how to do all the stuff in the beginers section, so I will move right along into the other sections. I personally started from the beginning - and while I understood all of the switches, having better-tested, more breakproof, manipulatable "prize switches" is gonna help me A LOT. I also found it cool to play through the "tutorial companions". If I didn't understand exactly what I was looking at, then that told me to copy the level and come here for more info. Revised PTDs, Toggles and switchers galore, a directional p-switch...this whole series made my day. Thanks again, guys. | 2009-11-14 04:09:00 Author: coyote_blue Posts: 422 |
| I can't wait to play through these when I get my Ps3 soon. Thanx! | 2009-11-14 04:36:00 Author: Unknown User |
| They are all on highest rated, these levels are great and all, but they have bumped tons of levels off page 1-4 highest rated. Not sure if thats a good thing. I am sure alot of people will be upset over this. Anyhow, thanks for the great walkthroughs. But did we need 10 of them on highest rated? | 2009-11-14 05:15:00 Author: fijski8  Posts: 159 |
| They are all on highest rated, these levels are great and all, but they have bumped tons of levels off page 1-4 highest rated. Not sure if thats a good thing. I am sure alot of people will be upset over this. Anyhow, thanks for the great walkthroughs. But did we need 10 of them on highest rated? There has been alot of new levels coming in to the Highest Rated pages these past few weeks, that's just the way it works, btw most of which don't even deserve their 5 Star rating. If anything, I would prefer to have these tutorial levels on the Highest Rated page than alot of the current Trophy and Racing levels, seriously. | 2009-11-14 05:27:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger Posts: 787 |
| They are all on highest rated, these levels are great and all, but they have bumped tons of levels off page 1-4 highest rated. Not sure if thats a good thing. I am sure alot of people will be upset over this. Anyhow, thanks for the great walkthroughs. But did we need 10 of them on highest rated? To be honest, we made no additional efforts to make a run for highest rated. We had these levels all published for weeks, and all we did was unlock them. It's not us who decides the rating of the levels, but the community. The only level that was published anew was the intro, which has 4 stars. Do you want us to delete the levels because the community decided to give them 5 stars? I would think not. If they are undeserving, they will go down of their own accord. As I said before, [...] the only traffic we expected to get to the subsequent levels would be through people who played the intro, and were excited about the next step. We were hoping the levels would do well, but frankly we're surprised that some of them were on the front page of Highest Rated. | 2009-11-14 05:29:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Well, I already offered my kudos to you all, but that was based solely on the act and not on the content. I have since played all the tutorial levels, and the are simply brilliant. Elegant and professional in design, consistent, amusing, and entertaining. And the switches!! I consider myself a logic proficient creator (not expert, by any means), but some of the concepts you have brought to my attention are priceless. The randomizer, and toggles; the player tracker... THANK YOU!!! Now - on to the bad news... The vault for Intermediate is not copyable. I own the MGS DLC, and I get no COPY option in the menus for it.EDIT: Oh and worry not for plays or hearts or ratings. What you have created is an altruistic masterpiece of design, workmanship, and utility. (did I mention... thank you?) | 2009-11-14 05:32:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878 |
| That is weird, V0rtex. CC is the only one with access, and sadly, he has gone. I will PM him. | 2009-11-14 05:33:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| finally all that suspense was getting to me | 2009-11-14 05:36:00 Author: siccology  Posts: 279 |
| Well, I already offered my kudos to you all, but that was based solely on the act and not on the content. I have since played all the tutorial levels, and the are simply brilliant. Elegant and professional in design, consistent, amusing, and entertaining. And the switches!! I consider myself a logic proficient creator (not expert, by any means), but some of the concepts you have brought to my attention are priceless. The randomizer, and toggles; the player tracker... THANK YOU!!! Now - on to the bad news... The vault for Intermediate is not copyable. I own the MGS DLC, and I get no COPY option in the menus for it.EDIT: Oh and worry not for plays or hearts or ratings. What you have created is an altruistic masterpiece of design, workmanship, and utility. (did I mention... thank you?) Try it now, I just fixed it. There was a problem with the vault before - it was saying that the MGS DLC was required to edit it even though it didn't have any MGS DLC in it - and to fix the problem, I had to copy the vault over into a new level and re-do the title, description, and icon. In the process, I forgot to make it copyable. | 2009-11-14 05:40:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| This is genuine guys. The 3 demonstration levels also are tremendously polished. Media Molecule wouldn't have made better!! Seriously, this is really a great idea and excellent execution. :star::star::star::star::star: | 2009-11-14 06:01:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901 |
| To be honest, we made no additional efforts to make a run for highest rated. We had these levels all published for weeks, and all we did was unlock them. It's not us who decides the rating of the levels, but the community. The only level that was published anew was the intro, which has 4 stars. Do you want us to delete the levels because the community decided to give them 5 stars? I would think not. If they are undeserving, they will go down of their own accord. As I said before, Yes, you are right. 3 of them are on page 1 highest right now. It is the community who decides, and i totaly agree with Endless Echo about the trophy, racing, stickers and other crap should get booted off. I also noticed 3 locked levels finally got bumped off page 1 too. By the way i did rate 5 also. | 2009-11-14 06:21:00 Author: fijski8 Posts: 159 |
| *puts hand up awkwardly* i noticed you dont have 2 pieces of logic that i would think of as vital/needed, 1. The State Changer 2. (the switch that if you grab it it does something else to if you hold it?) | 2009-11-14 07:57:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| *puts hand up awkwardly* i noticed you dont have 2 pieces of logic that i would think of as vital/needed, 1. The State Changer 2. (the switch that if you grab it it does something else to if you hold it?) There are lots of things we could have added if we added everything we could think of, but instead we focused on providing a sort of "logic foundation" on which Creators could then build from. We wanted to keep this pack lean, and we did so by only offering the most important logic. By the way, both of those concepts can be designed quite easily by networking a couple of our logic switches together. However, if you feel these are important to you, then go build it! We're not trying to make this pack seem like the "be-all and end-all" of logic - in fact, quite the opposite is true. We're hoping this pack will inspire Creators to create their own logic to meet their own needs, since that is an essential component to high-quality Creation. | 2009-11-14 08:13:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| thats the point CC i dont know how to make the last one... i know how to make the first one but not the last one | 2009-11-14 08:17:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Thanks for all the hard work guys, the crowns are most definitely deserved. The levels are all well polished, informative, and a wonderful demonstration of how logic can be used to make great levels even better. The additional tutorials are also an amazing addition to the community, giving players extra help in creating whatever crazy contraptions they can contrive. May this be the first of many wonderful LBPC collaborations to follow | 2009-11-14 08:18:00 Author: Burnvictim42  Posts: 3322 |
| Congrats for the crowns, guys! Well deserved, to say the least. Didn't yet have a chance to check your full-fledged logic level pack out, but I'm gonna give it a shot as soon as I get a chance to get to my PS3. Awesomeness! | 2009-11-14 08:21:00 Author: Treas  Posts: 223 |
| could you make a player submitted level? | 2009-11-14 08:37:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| no im sorry search function not working.... really bad dosent work with new levels but...... ur on highest rated so yeh! | 2009-11-14 09:38:00 Author: Tawarf Posts: 457 |
| For a pack that is supposed to be accessible by everybody, why do you require the Metal Gear Solid pack for the Advanced Logic? Why not just create a level that contains the DLC-free logic, and another one that contains the logic that has MGS pack stuff in it? That way, people will have access to the DLC-free Advanced Logic Pack switches, and the ones WITH DLC will have access to extra switches | 2009-11-14 10:49:00 Author: robbit10 Posts: 450 |
| well if you really want to be an amazing creator you should have already picked up the MGS DLC | 2009-11-14 11:24:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| well if you really want to be an amazing creator you should have already picked up the MGS DLC Playstation Network cards have just arrived where I live (previously, you had to use a credit card, which I don't have), plus I don't have the money right now to buy a playstation network card. | 2009-11-14 11:26:00 Author: robbit10 Posts: 450 |
| well i got a psn card last month when they were out in uk so i know what you meen but deffinately pick it up. | 2009-11-14 11:27:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Well done to all that was involved in the creation of this project, I learned quite a bit of new stuff! It was excellent how you people managed to make the levels fun by adding diagrams, and puzzles for people to complete (it wasn't just magic mouths.) Judging by the popularity of the levels right now, I wouldn't be surprised if LBPC's number of members doubled in size | 2009-11-14 11:47:00 Author: olit123  Posts: 1341 |
| Where is the other beatle? ;O By the way, judging by the tutorials/levels, this is one hell of a great pack. You guys must have put TONS of time into this and for that, me and the LBP and LBPC communities are very grateful... my sister isn't so grateful though... I'm getting on this tonight and I'm about as excited as a cat that just escaped Hybrid! Thanks again everyone who was part of this! so you are sad ? | 2009-11-14 13:14:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Playstation Network cards have just arrived where I live (previously, you had to use a credit card, which I don't have), plus I don't have the money right now to buy a playstation network card. There was some discussion of this during development. The vast majority of creators have the MGS pack, so it was decided it was simpler to require it for the advanced pack. If you have a friend on the PSN maybe you could have them send you any objects you need separately? | 2009-11-14 13:15:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| xD A randomizer! You people tried to trick us @_@ LOL I actually am about to punch my sister in the face... because I am so excited for this. GOSH DARNIT! WOAW WOAW WOAW I don't know if you should do that,but this logic pack you gave us is AWESOME! Thank you guys! | 2009-11-14 13:16:00 Author: AbstractFlesh  Posts: 837 |
| so you are sad ?Oh c'mon Hybrid! We all know what you do to those cats..... | 2009-11-14 13:21:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| Thanks for all the hard work guys, the crowns are most definitely deserved. The levels are all well polished, informative, and a wonderful demonstration of how logic can be used to make great levels even better. The additional tutorials are also an amazing addition to the community, giving players extra help in creating whatever crazy contraptions they can contrive. May this be the first of many wonderful LBPC collaborations to follow Yeah, so ged to work on ours lol... anyway, I played the beginner and it's three accompanying levels, and the intermediate level. andI must say wow. I finally understand, and it is kinda making me want to finally make my own level XD. Now I just need to think of what to base it off on Anyway... thanks so much, you guys RAWK. You deserve more then those crowns, you all deserve peanuts :kz: | 2009-11-14 13:21:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| well if this is what you need to do to get a peanut i'm going to go off and i'll see you in 5 months time with my peanut earning idea, or i could get 69 pence and go to tesco. OK see you in 5 months | 2009-11-14 13:23:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Oh c'mon Hybrid! We all know what you do to those cats..... is putting hats on them a bad thing? lets go ontopic and speak this on the homepages | 2009-11-14 13:30:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Dangit! Now you've got me THINKING again. The elevator tutorial left me asking: what about a multi-floor elevator? I checked out the tutorial and realized you'd already given me the tools: http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=620&pictureid=8538 Those silly diagrams! Once I thought of a multi-floor elevator as a huge multi-input AND switch, the "Call Elevator Button" problem solved itself. Thanks again, guys. | 2009-11-14 14:31:00 Author: coyote_blue Posts: 422 |
| Congrats guys! Making logic "fun" is actually really hard to do, you've all done a fantastic job! Loved the story in these turotials as well, really funny cheers, misty | 2009-11-14 14:36:00 Author: Mother-Misty  Posts: 574 |
| I have played all the levels, not going through the tutorials though might try them soon, and i managed to copy all three vaults to my moon with no profile overload, I was surprised, so i'm going to keep them on there because the profile increase is coming soon anyways. I was just wondering though you guys are pretty much going to have to make at least a scaled down version for the PSP it would be great if you did that. anyways thankyou to all of the team you must of worked incredibly hard and if what CCubbage shown me today wasn't enough i must say you must of grinded the skin off your thumbs to the bone. | 2009-11-14 15:03:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| You gonna buy me a shiny new PSP to get that started then robotiod? | 2009-11-14 15:10:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Hey i need my shiny new PSP first before i buy anyone one | 2009-11-14 15:13:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| So you are definitely going to buy me one eventually? That's what I heard... . | 2009-11-14 15:18:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| yeah i'll get you one just give me ?200 | 2009-11-14 15:22:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| I think the idea is that you should have learned enough to make your own logic when the psp version comes out! (But yeah, buy rtm a psp!) | 2009-11-14 15:27:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| You know if i ever have the money spare i will buy rtm a PSP its just i'm not rich | 2009-11-14 15:28:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Wow... this is fantastic! What an amazing project you have all come together on to offer to the community!! I've never been great with logic overall, but have learned a few tricks on my own (mostly with timing lights to music and creating loops with the music pieces given to us). Other than that, I'm really quite lost on most of it. I'm looking forward to checking out your work later this evening or tomorrow and learning from the pro's in order that I can become a better creator because of your hard work. Thanks so very much to mrsupercomputer, comphermc, CuzFeeshe, rtm223, and ConfusedCartman... as well as anyone else involved in the proect (including play testers). | 2009-11-14 18:49:00 Author: Rustbukkit  Posts: 1737 |
| For a pack that is supposed to be accessible by everybody, why do you require the Metal Gear Solid pack for the Advanced Logic? Why not just create a level that contains the DLC-free logic, and another one that contains the logic that has MGS pack stuff in it? That way, people will have access to the DLC-free Advanced Logic Pack switches, and the ones WITH DLC will have access to extra switches Because the number of people who are unable to get the MGS Pack is so small, we didn't think it was worth it to fragment the logic in that way. As others have mentioned, you could just ask a friend to pop all of the non-DLC Advanced Pack logic into a copyable level for you. | 2009-11-14 19:08:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| checking it out soon and it looks like it's gonna be great! and congratz on the crowns guys! edit: checked out the beginner tut for now and well, that was very informative, might start making levels again, and this time with actual puzzels. | 2009-11-14 19:12:00 Author: oldage  Posts: 2824 |
| Ok... I finally played these levels. I had to punch my sister in the face, get grounded, get ungrounded, attack my sister with a javelin, get grounded again, get ungrounded again just to play these but I did. My honest opinion: These are some of the best levels out there. 100% deserve to be on highest rated. The atmosphere to the ease of learning in these levels just make them amazing. I literally couldn't get myself to not heart these. I loved how they actually had a kind of story that you follow rather than a bunch of magic mouths placed everywhere like in a regular tutorial. Great! Ahh, what else is there to say? I guess I will sum it up with one word. FULLOFEPICWIN Yes I had to make up that word for this. Very nice, well deserved crowns | 2009-11-15 02:28:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| It is soo awesome AND its on the cool pages! | 2009-11-15 06:13:00 Author: Snrm  Posts: 6419 |
| Just fantastic! Tried out the 'main' levels and they really get you thinking. Well done guys! | 2009-11-15 11:01:00 Author: chimpskylark Posts: 335 |
| Congrats guys! Good work. Crowns well deserved. | 2009-11-15 11:41:00 Author: btrabucco  Posts: 8 |
| Congratulations on producing a series of tutorials that are extremely well made with a lot of thought put into them. This is the type of thing that media molecule should have introduced a year ago. Hopefully this will put an end to the horrible jump, bomb, sinking floor ect levels. your publishing strategy was also supurb. By only allowing the introduction level on the cool levels, you will be only attraction those who are interested in playing the tutorials, almost garenteeing a 5 star rating by those who play the levels, which concequently will make them easier to find by everyone in the long term on the highest rated as opposed to having them all on the cool levels and being rated down by people who play and have no interest in creating. I loved the visuals and the easy to follow cutscene explinations. The gameplay was also very creative and enjoyable. Very similar to comphermc`s apature science series. I didnt learn anything new, but its always nice to know that im doing it correctly and efficiently. Well done again guys . | 2009-11-15 13:27:00 Author: SteveBigGuns  Posts: 423 |
| Hi, I'm sure that some of you were aware of my initial thoughts on this project -.- While I'm sure that my thoughts were not well received, does it really matter what one person thought personally? In saying that though, it all falls back on this whole Objective vs. Subjective feedback debate. I'll admit that these levels/tuts. are well worth the the time and effort spent on them. But I do still stand by my initial thoughts too. | 2009-11-15 15:12:00 Author: mnimmo1986  Posts: 552 |
| I played through these last night again by myself so I could take the time and read everything and play around a bit more without holding anyone up. Amazingly well thought out. Quite a bit I knew already, but you still offered some elements for possible solutions to things I haven't really thought about yet! Kinda like having a wild card in my hand to play when the time comes. The incredible packs, vaults, the tutorials online here at LBPC as well as the supporting tutorial levels online... wow. Amazing effort and it staggers me at how well thought out and cohesive it all was. ...Ahem... It's no wonder Mm was excited to share the news!! I have never been one to get lost in logic or intimidated by it, but you have presented me some new ideas and twists to some things I have done as well as future elements that I can't wait to try. Thanks so much!! | 2009-11-15 17:10:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| Hmm any possibility of making one for the PSP version? | 2009-11-15 17:25:00 Author: JKthree  Posts: 1125 |
| Hmm any possibility of making one for the PSP version? On the previous page: I think the idea is that you should have learned enough to make your own logic when the psp version comes out! TBH, is there really much point? The majority of people using the PSP version will have the PS3 version too, it should be quite simple for most people to reproduce the stuff in PSPland. But feel free to contribute to robotiod's buy rtm a PSP fund | 2009-11-15 18:03:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| I really think you should have added a multitask switch, simple as it is. On the other hand, making a whole section for a lever seems a bit outrageous if you ask me.... | 2009-11-15 18:17:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251 |
| Lmao, I just went on the Highest Rated page and you guys have completely dominated everything! Almost everything has changed about page one, you guys hold 12 of the 30 level spots on Page 1 of the Highest Rated, bumping jwwphotos' level to page 2(lol) and many others! Wow, now that is an achievement, and in my opinion the best achievement on LBP to date, congrats guys! | 2009-11-15 18:53:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger Posts: 787 |
| Really helpful I must say. Copied them all to my creating kit. I'm too lazy to make them myself :/ But still, really helpful pack. | 2009-11-15 21:25:00 Author: Oerjeke  Posts: 234 |
| Creating game logic is waaay too boring for me to look into but hats off for the time you've spent doing this. To be completely clear here - I -don't- understand the advanced game logic which is why I find it boring. I DO suck at it. I will probably look over the basic logic. Definately crownworthy. | 2009-11-15 21:47:00 Author: BasketSnake  Posts: 2391 |
| it made me feel like a nerd knowing exactly what they were talking about, even in the advanced pack... lol good job, very impressed with the way it was presented! | 2009-11-15 22:55:00 Author: Voodeedoo  Posts: 724 |
| Its About Time Someone Made Good Tutorials Keep Of The Good Work Guys.. | 2009-11-15 23:56:00 Author: Zilla_Face  Posts: 7 |
| YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just recently found out how to make a toggle switch. I'm so proud of myself! | 2009-11-16 16:47:00 Author: acdramon  Posts: 332 |
| Just wanted to add that I've added a Quick-Reset Timer to my bipedal mechs now that I've learned about them from the Logic Pack. Thanks guys. Don't believe that this is only good for beginners. Everyone can learn a thing or two, even me.  | 2009-11-16 20:31:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536 |
| aww shucks u shouldnt have... actually more please nom nom nom tips will need to study this to finally make a gd level.... hopefully | 2009-11-16 23:11:00 Author: shruggieG  Posts: 1 |
| I really think you should have added a multitask switch, simple as it is. A what now? | 2009-11-16 23:13:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
i dont know rtm i just dont know  | 2009-11-17 07:55:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Honestly, I'm a little disappointed you didn't include a flabbermongolian sideways reversable resetable trip switch that you can sync up with your ipod. | 2009-11-17 10:14:00 Author: wexfordian Posts: 1904 |
| Honestly, I'm a little disappointed you didn't include a flabbermongolian sideways reversable resetable trip switch that you can sync up with your ipod. Wow, GREAT idea..... I'll start building an example room! rtm223 should have the mechanism designed pretty quickly - he's pretty fast with flabbermongolian-based logic. The last one he designed only used a single piece of dark matter, a piece of string, and a skateboard. | 2009-11-17 13:51:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Ccubbage, it's gonna take more than that to make it reversable andresetable (which are obviously very different things): flabbermongolian sideways reversable resetable trip switch I'm thinking rocket cheetahs with impact explosives would do the trick | 2009-11-17 14:38:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Make sure you detach the rocket, rtm. That's what makes it flabbermongolian... but I'm sure you don't need to be reminded... | 2009-11-17 14:46:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Make sure you detach the rocket, rtm. That's what makes it flabbermongolian... but I'm sure you don't need to be reminded... Whoa.. timeout. Not to worry... I have all this coming out in a Rocket Cheetah Tech Pack. | 2009-11-17 15:05:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| but what about the ipod sync rtm? that will require some ramps. if im not mistaken | 2009-11-17 16:40:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| ...and point bubbles with a tethered jetpack. Wow, this was derailed quickly... and I'm certain I'm not helping. Let's try to stay on task. | 2009-11-17 16:43:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| @Incinerator what exactly do you mean by multitask switch? isnt that an OR gate? @comph: Sorry | 2009-11-17 16:56:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Yeah, it's the teaser threads all over again! And this time there's nothing that needs hiding in a smoke screen. Or is there...? Anyway, I'll get this back on topic: I was wondering about the timer mechanism in the randomizer: what is the reason for using two pistons? I have a similar device, and it uses an emitter for this purpose. | 2009-11-17 17:32:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284 |
| Yeah, it's the teaser threads all over again! And this time there's nothing that needs hiding in a smoke screen. Or is there...? :-) Anyway, I'll get this back on topic: I was wondering about the timer mechanism in the randomizer: what is the reason for using two pistons? I have a similar device, and it uses an emitter for this purpose. Or is there indeed? Ahem... The double piston arangement controls the speed of the wheel. You don't need 2 pistons, but in testing it certainly seemed to help with the randomisation of the sequence. The pistons should be set to be out of sync so follow a very long pattern. This pattern is then fed into the speed of the wheel. The actual trigger of the randomiser's selection is just a 1-shot signal, so it can come from any source you like. | 2009-11-17 17:41:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Dr. Evil: You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have? | 2009-11-17 17:51:00 Author: enodrawkcab Posts: 238 |
| Wow, GREAT idea..... I'll start building an example room! rtm223 should have the mechanism designed pretty quickly - he's pretty fast with flabbermongolian-based logic. The last one he designed only used a single piece of dark matter, a piece of string, and a skateboard. You guys are like the McGuyvers' of logic..... but seriously what is Incinerator talking about? I don't understand. | 2009-11-17 18:28:00 Author: Morgana25 Posts: 5983 |
| seriously what is Incinerator talking about? I don't understand. Ahhh, it's an issue of naming logic in LBP. I've found people give relatively arbitrary names to devices, which then get passed around a bit and become semi-technical terms, but quite often there's multiple names for the same thing and it all gets a bit confusing. I'm sure when incinerator gets back and tells us what the switch does, everyone will have an "ahhhh, that's what you mean" moment | 2009-11-17 18:44:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| multitask switch GLEEE hemflowhotflop is great at the mechanics and he made one too. a multitask switch and a double grab switch, using emitters and complex shapes hit at a certain angle to yadda... i feel like making a logic expansion pack now... *gets to work* | 2009-11-17 19:26:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| Wait, so what is a multitask switch, Voodeedoo? Is that where a quick grab does something different than a held grab, or something? Also, I don't trust emitters... They's after me preshussss. | 2009-11-17 19:28:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Lol, that's the issue. No one bothers to explain what they mean when they use the terms. I can think of about 10 interpretations for the term "double grab" switch and for "multi-task" switch. They are just so generic. | 2009-11-17 19:32:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Hmmmm... just guessing, but maybe a multi-task is a switch that can be used as a one-shot, a directional, and a on-off at the same time... but that would be way too simple. It would just be a piston extending a magnetic key to hit multiple magnetic switches at the same time... | 2009-11-17 19:45:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Hmmmm... just guessing, but maybe a multi-task is a switch that can be used as a one-shot, a directional, and a on-off at the same time... but that would be way too simple. It would just be a piston extending a magnetic key to hit multiple magnetic switches at the same time... Or as simple as putting three grab switches on the same material... | 2009-11-17 19:48:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| noes! me and comph are working on something thats similiar to that! | 2009-11-17 19:51:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Yo dawg, I herd you like multitasking, so I put a multitask switch in your logic pack so you can multitask while you learn logic! But seriously, I can't fathom what a multitask switch could be. Maybe a switch that activates X number of other switches? Need more info... | 2009-11-17 19:52:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536 |
| Or as simple as putting three grab switches on the same material... Wow! Is that possible?????? Is there some kind of glitch I don't know about? Maybe a switch that activates X number of other switches? That's what I was thinking, but it just sounds too simple.... there MUST be more to it if we took a couple pages discussing it! | 2009-11-17 19:59:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Ahem... The double piston arangement controls the speed of the wheel. You don't need 2 pistons, but in testing it certainly seemed to help with the randomisation of the sequence. The pistons should be set to be out of sync so follow a very long pattern. This pattern is then fed into the speed of the wheel. The actual trigger of the randomiser's selection is just a 1-shot signal, so it can come from any source you like. No no no, I understand the two pistons in series. 1.3 and 2.7, takes a long time to repeat the exact same movement. I was talking about the two pistons left of those. But you say it's just one selection trigger, so what is the other one for? I'm going to have to examine this thing further... | 2009-11-17 22:19:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284 |
| No no no, I understand the two pistons in series. 1.3 and 2.7, takes a long time to repeat the exact same movement. I was talking about the two pistons left of those. But you say it's just one selection trigger, so what is the other one for? I'm going to have to examine this thing further... Did you mean to the right? The vertical piston carries a green magnetic key, which when brought into range of the key switch of matching color, will dissolve the block away. This block serves two purposes. One, to actually seed the output - when a block is emitted, it triggers one of the 6 blue magnetic key switches. The emitters emit blocks that are identical except for the placement of the blue key. The other purpose is to prevent the other blocks from emitting. When the vertical piston, which is flipper out, is triggered, it dissolves the block, as stated. Whichever of the 6 emitters is set to emit at that instant will be allowed to do so. The spinning wheel with keys determines which emitter is set to emit at that instant. | 2009-11-17 22:46:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| I just played some of the Logic levels recently, they were excellent, good job! | 2009-11-17 22:58:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
| Wait, so what is a multitask switch, Voodeedoo? Is that where a quick grab does something different than a held grab, or something? Also, I don't trust emitters... They's after me preshussss. exactly, a quick grab can activate something else and can have up to at least 20 diff. tasks. but im scared of explaining.. im a horrible explainer! lol NON-PROOF READ: BUT ill give it a shot: so there's like, a flat plus sign, made of wood. each end has a magnetic key switch of the same color that activates a certain... thing, or whatever you connect it to. in the center of the plus sign block, is a rotating bolt thing that makes it spin very fast. it is set so it's very weak, and so you can put something in the way of it to stop it from turning. you then get a block of wood with the magnetic key-key, attach the block to a piston, and set the maximum length to the point where you can make it go in and out of the way of the plus-sign-block-thing. you make something grabbable and attach the grab switch to the piston on the direction setting. when you grab it, it moves back and away from the plus-sign-block thing and lets it move to the next key switch which activates something else in time for the block-piston-thing to come back and block the plus-sign-wood-thing from spinning - GAH i forgot what i was saying. i dont know how to explain it in english, and i totally forgot how i had the object in the first place so i dont know of a level to recommend going to see it... the double grab mech needs two really quick grabs to activate ONE thing, kinda like double clicking on a mouse. its a clever use of physics, shapes and emitters beyond what some bloke like me could explain in simple terms. | 2009-11-18 05:43:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| exactly, a quick grab can activate something else and can have up to at least 20 diff. tasks. but im scared of explaining.. im a horrible explainer! lol NON-PROOF READ: BUT ill give it a shot: so there's like, a flat plus sign, made of wood. each end has a magnetic key switch of the same color that activates a certain... thing, or whatever you connect it to. in the center of the plus sign block, is a rotating bolt thing that makes it spin very fast. it is set so it's very weak, and so you can put something in the way of it to stop it from turning. you then get a block of wood with the magnetic key-key, attach the block to a piston, and set the maximum length to the point where you can make it go in and out of the way of the plus-sign-block-thing. you make something grabbable and attach the grab switch to the piston on the direction setting. when you grab it, it moves back and away from the plus-sign-block thing and lets it move to the next key switch which activates something else in time for the block-piston-thing to come back and block the plus-sign-wood-thing from spinning - GAH i forgot what i was saying. i dont know how to explain it in english, and i totally forgot how i had the object in the first place so i dont know of a level to recommend going to see it... the double grab mech needs two really quick grabs to activate ONE thing, kinda like double clicking on a mouse. its a clever use of physics, shapes and emitters beyond what some bloke like me could explain in simple terms. I understand what you're trying to say. The reason we didn't include something like this was, well, it's so rarely used. There are only a few cases (that I can think of) that would require such a feature. When deciding on what logic to include, two factors we took into account were a) how much that piece of logic would be used and b) how specific that logic is. In terms of a), if we felt the logic would end up by the wayside, unused by most people, then we cut it. When it comes to b), we considered how well that logic performed in multiple different types of situations. We asked ourselves: could it be applied in many different ways, or is it only useful for one (or two) very specific purpose(s)? If the answer was the latter, we didn't include it. So to answer your inquiry more briefly: We only included the types that met our standards, which helped focus the pack and make it more approachable. Because of that design philosophy, there's a ton of logic we didn't include. The point of this pack, as mentioned before, isn't to function as a one-hundred-percent comprehensive logic collection - rather, we aimed to provide Creators with a set of the most useful logic that exists, so that there would be a very strong foundation for future Creative development. | 2009-11-18 06:37:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| incinerator has told me what a multitask switch is... but im on my PS3 so its on my profile page | 2009-11-18 07:14:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| i see, tho the double grab and multitask switch is fairly complex i don't see how it would be used frequently. im surprised you understood what i meant lol XP thnx for the reply | 2009-11-18 08:03:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| Did you mean to the right? The vertical piston carries a green magnetic key, which when brought into range of the key switch of matching color, will dissolve the block away. This block serves two purposes. One, to actually seed the output - when a block is emitted, it triggers one of the 6 blue magnetic key switches. The emitters emit blocks that are identical except for the placement of the blue key. The other purpose is to prevent the other blocks from emitting. Yes, I meant to the right. Did you mean horizontal? But thanks for the explanation. One piston does the emitting, the other triggers the dissolving. I suppose that's more stable than emitting with a short lifetime? So to answer your inquiry more briefly: We only included the types that met our standards, which helped focus the pack and make it more approachable. Because of that design philosophy, there's a ton of logic we didn't include. The point of this pack, as mentioned before, isn't to function as a one-hundred-percent comprehensive logic collection - rather, we aimed to provide Creators with a set of the most useful logic that exists, so that there would be a very strong foundation for future Creative development. Did you do a long list of all possible logic you could think of, or did you have a good idea which logic to include from the start? i see, tho the double grab and multitask switch is fairly complex i don't see how it would be used frequently. im surprised you understood what i meant lol XP thnx for the reply I got it, too, so you're not as bad at explaining as you think. | 2009-11-18 10:11:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284 |
| a flat plus sign, made of wood. each end has a magnetic key switch of the same color that activates a certain... thing, or whatever you connect it to. in the center of the plus sign block, is a rotating bolt thing that makes it spin very fast. it is set so it's very weak, and so you can put something in the way of it to stop it from turning. you then get a block of wood with the magnetic key-key, attach the block to a piston, and set the maximum length to the point where you can make it go in and out of the way of the plus-sign-block-thing. you make something grabbable and attach the grab switch to the piston on the direction setting. when you grab it, it moves back and away from the plus-sign-block thing and lets it move to the next key switch which activates something else in time for the block-piston-thing to come back and block the plus-sign-wood-thing from spinning I don't understand how this is different to the notched wheel logic: Something spinning with keys on being physically held in place by a removeable blockage. Even if the purpose is subtley different, the mechanism is very similar and could quickly be tweaked to adapt it. As CC said though, there were various considerations when choosing what went into the pack. Stuff that was cool and complex would only really have served the purpose of showing off and giving coverage of an extensive range of devices would have given us less resource to actually explain anything or teach anyone. As it stands the pack consists of a core of "plug and play" switches that can all be used for many applications and also utilise a variety of techniques in their construction, to inspire others to take those techniques and apply them to custom logic. I know a number of people have looked at the advanced pack and thought "I've seen more complex stuff than this", but you really have to appreciate what the purpose of the pack is. | 2009-11-18 10:41:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Yup, it sounds exactly like the notched wheel logic in the advanced pack, just called something different. | 2009-11-18 13:04:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| Dr. Evil: You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have? You can win such a shark in Lone Ninja 2. SHAMELESS PLUG ENDS. | 2009-11-18 14:26:00 Author: coyote_blue Posts: 422 |
| Thank you Spock; this logic pack makes world creation much simpler. | 2009-11-18 16:08:00 Author: Lady_Runa  Posts: 5 |
| i see, tho the double grab and multitask switch is fairly complex i don't see how it would be used frequently. im surprised you understood what i meant lol XP thnx for the reply As I see it, the multi-task switch was included in the logic pack. It was the 4-way notched wheel toggle. As for the double-grab, I just made one last night. It's purposes are pretty specific, but I was able to create it solely out of the things shown in the logic pack. The set-reset switch, and winch logic are awesome. | 2009-11-18 16:56:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| in the vault youve called the set reset switch, a switcher is that on purpose or by accident? | 2009-11-18 17:58:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| I just played all of these levels, and they were AMAZING! All of them were so well made and captivating! | 2009-11-18 20:00:00 Author: Sackwise  Posts: 305 |
| in the vault youve called the set reset switch, a switcher is that on purpose or by accident? On purpose...... Nah, this is a mistake. CC? | 2009-11-18 20:01:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Sorry if I seemed aggressive and underestimated the LogicPack. Not my intentions, I assure you. | 2009-11-18 22:09:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| Sorry if I seemed aggressive and underestimated the LogicPack. Not my intentions, I assure you. The second half of my post wasn't directed at you, it was more a general comment on the nature of what was included in the pack I think it's safe to say no one felt you were being rude in the slightest! | 2009-11-18 22:26:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| GLEEE hemflowhotflop is great at the mechanics and he made one too. a multitask switch and a double grab switch, using emitters and complex shapes hit at a certain angle to yadda... i feel like making a logic expansion pack now... *gets to work*The only thing that guy is good at doing is uploading pictures on the Story levels so he can get author hearts. | 2009-11-18 23:36:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger Posts: 787 |
| The only thing that guy is good at doing is uploading pictures on the Story levels so he can get author hearts. Yea, he's a pro image spammer but his levels and mechs are comparable to Johnee. Also he's a nice guy lol. | 2009-11-19 00:29:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| He can't be that good if he made the double grab switch into something complex 2 mag switches, 1 piston and 1 emitter (emitting a mag key). Works like a charm! | 2009-11-19 00:41:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| On purpose...... Nah, this is a mistake. CC? Fixed! Sorry about that. | 2009-11-19 00:49:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| Hi! Can someone upload images of all the switches so I can see them? My ps3 doesn't have access to the internet but I'm getting the psp one soon, so I just want to see what they look like, I should be able to at least kind of understand how to use them that way... Want to be able to finally get into the online lbp community | 2009-11-19 00:50:00 Author: Theap Pleman  Posts: 670 |
| Yea, he's a pro image spammer but his levels and mechs are comparable to Johnee. Also he's a nice guy lol. So he does it only for the author hearts? Pretty pathetic, he's been doing it for months now and has gotten thousands of hearts. | 2009-11-19 00:53:00 Author: TheFirstAvenger Posts: 787 |
| Sorry for my absence. A multitask switch activates many outputs like one-shot/speed/dirction, ect. Pretty confusing isn't it? I can go slower lol. But in all seriousness, simple as it is, it would benefit creators in many ways. No one comments about how simple a permanent switch is. My first, and I mean very first level used permanent switches to activate bombs, lol, before I even had an online connection or knew about LBPC. This multiple name stuff really is driving me crazy lol. Your emmitter-based "toggle switch" is basically what I call a state switch. You windmilly-looking switch that had 4 points is what I would call a 4-way state switch. MM's logic video actually made what they adress as a toggle switch, that used two glass pushers to push a glass block across to the other one. (Pathetic, yes I know lol.) Your switch that used two winches on a lever seems like a better version of the mm-toggle switch, but I'm not sure what you called it. And one last thing, I understand that leftover green stuff makes dark matter, but what are the bulk green blocks for? And how did you move the dark matter? Wow, two big topics and two questions lol. | 2009-11-19 01:32:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251 |
| And one last thing, I understand that leftover green stuff makes dark matter, but what are the bulk green blocks for? They were used for the demos in the Beginner Pack, o' course. They are very important for the logic process... And how did you move the dark matter? I'll never tell!!!! (perhaps it wasn't DM, eh?) | 2009-11-19 03:40:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| They were used for the demos in the Beginner Pack, o' course. They are very important for the logic process... I'll never tell!!!! (perhaps it wasn't DM, eh?) You want to see some REALLY impressive dark matter.... go check out the level "What's the Matter" from xkappax. It makes the moving dark matter in logic pack look like childs play. | 2009-11-19 03:50:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430 |
| This multiple name stuff really is driving me crazy lol. Your emmitter-based "toggle switch" is basically what I call a state switch. You windmilly-looking switch that had 4 points is what I would call a 4-way state switch. MM's logic video actually made what they adress as a toggle switch, that used two glass pushers to push a glass block across to the other one. (Pathetic, yes I know lol.) Your switch that used two winches on a lever seems like a better version of the mm-toggle switch, but I'm not sure what you called it. The reason we called it a "Set-Reset switch" instead of a "Toggle switch" is because the latter name doesn't imply that two inputs are required to fully manipulate the output. When I hear "Toggle switch", a 2-way switch comes to mind, and we wanted to avoid that kind of confusion by assigning names that described the purpose of the switch as clearly as possible. As to your second question, comphermc answered it quite nicely. | 2009-11-19 04:57:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| This multiple name stuff really is driving me crazy lol. Your emmitter-based "toggle switch" is basically what I call a state switch. You windmilly-looking switch that had 4 points is what I would call a 4-way state switch. MM's logic video actually made what they adress as a toggle switch, that used two glass pushers to push a glass block across to the other one. (Pathetic, yes I know lol.) Your switch that used two winches on a lever seems like a better version of the mm-toggle switch, but I'm not sure what you called it. We called it a Set-Reset Switch. Because: Set Reset Flip Flop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_%28electronics%29#SR_flip-flops) Also for toggle vs state: Toggle Flip Flop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_%28electronics%29#T_flip-flops) State Machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_machine) Note the state machine isn't represented by any of the logic in the logic pack and probably can't be represented by a generic switch device. | 2009-11-19 08:59:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| I wish I could just upload a photo but I don't have a cam. :[ For now... *hides under desk* | 2009-11-19 10:30:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| And how did you move the dark matter? perhaps it wasn't DM, eh? Or perhaps it is Dark matter! but with the properties of another material?!? conspiracy theory 1: Rtm is a robot and comphermc is a human wanting to be a robot, CCubbage is a fish and Confused cartman is an admin and MrSupercomputer is well the name says it all, Add these all together you get and MrCyborgFishAdmin!!! | 2009-11-19 16:52:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Or perhaps it is Dark matter! but with the properties of another material?!? conspiracy theory 1: Rtm is a robot and comphermc is a human wanting to be a robot, CCubbage is a fish and Confused cartman is an admin and MrSupercomputer is well the name says it all, Add these all together you get and MrCyborgFishAdmin!!! I saw a level where you can practically do anything with materials; you can give dark matter the floaty properties of a pink floaty, make non-slippable glass, wood with the weight of metal, grabbable metal, etc. | 2009-11-19 20:59:00 Author: Voodeedoo Posts: 724 |
| I wish I could just upload a photo but I don't have a cam You could export to your hard-drive, then upload it to the internet via your PS3 internet browser to a site like photobucket, then from there paste it here. Photobucket even lets you edit it, plus it gives it to you with the [IMG] pre-wrapped. If there not a tutorial on that yet...meh...ill might just have to add it. *Goes to tutorial page* perhaps it wasn't DM, eh? Moo? Cow-glitched? | 2009-11-19 23:12:00 Author: King_Tubb  Posts: 435 |
| I'm pretty sure its not cow glitched. You might want to see if theres something on the "dark matter". ;p | 2009-11-20 17:41:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322 |
| You sound pretty confident there Burnvictim... Moo moo?? . | 2009-11-20 17:55:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Ah, apparently i was a confident fool I thought it was just stickered rubber, looks more like a cow now. | 2009-11-20 19:46:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322 |
| Or is it? Perhaps we did something completely different... or perhaps not. Who knows, really, except for maybe rtm? | 2009-11-20 19:56:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| I don't use glitches... Everyone knows that. . | 2009-11-20 20:00:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| I''m not taking the name thing out on any of you, just complaining in general lol. Thanks for the answers and links. | 2009-11-20 22:05:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251 |
| A lot of people are thinking that the LogicPack was made by Media Molecule... This should really be confirmed... Or do you guys secretly work for Mm? :eek: When Mm (Littlebigplanet central) created the logitech pack, the last logitech pack (Advanced pack) had the 3D gltich in it. | 2009-11-24 03:54:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
| There is no evidence of it having been made by MM. I don't know where they are getting these ideas. It makes me happy that they appreciate our work enough to think it was by MM, though. | 2009-11-24 04:20:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| A lot of people are thinking that the LogicPack was made by Media Molecule... This should really be confirmed... Or do you guys secretly work for Mm? :eek: That's a really awesome compliment! Yeah, it's definitely all fan-made, though. All we did was send it along to Mm and let them check it out early, and they liked it so much they helped us promote it. | 2009-11-24 05:01:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| This is an awesome set of levels and I have copied the intermediate and advanced to my moon! I have done well with my own logic, but these packs open new doors with better designed apparatuses and some new ideas for me! Thanks guys! http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=5689&dateline=1259179457 | 2009-11-27 23:03:00 Author: Aselrahc  Posts: 185 |
| I tried the Logic Pack and boy am I impressed, my only complaint is that I don't have the MetalGearSolid Pack so I cant Use the advanced pack. | 2009-11-28 05:40:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I don't recall coming in and giving any feedback after going through these. I dove into this pack as soon as it came out, and I absolutely loved it. The tours were awesome. I even learned a thing or two, can you IMAGINE such a thing?? I'm already anticipating one or two of these possibly having to be reworked in order to be water-friendly if that thing ever-ever-ever comes out. I loved the concept, the story-and-character driven tour was absolutely excellent. The secret entrance to the "advanced" tutorial was a fantastic switcheroo. The vehicle rides between levels make it all cohesive, and amazingly there really is a satsifying feeling of progress as you move through the tutorials. I love the vehicular "upgrades". The little diorama-like scenes inside the labs were incredible, I just sat back and watched. Loved it. You guys did a stellar job. | 2009-11-28 06:35:00 Author: Teebonesy Posts: 1937 |
| they were extremely helpful aaand educational THANK YOU | 2009-11-28 20:12:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Are there any video recordings of the levels? Personally I would rather have video walkthroughs of the levels saved onto my PSP. This way I could jump from video to video as needed while trying to create a level. I think maybe a printable, written summary would help for the same reason. I'm not sure if anyone has thought of these ideas yet. I have a capture card and I might record unless someone already is doing or has done so. | 2009-12-03 21:14:00 Author: TTH247  Posts: 11 |
| Are there any video recordings of the levels? Personally I would rather have video walkthroughs of the levels saved onto my PSP. This way I could jump from video to video as needed while trying to create a level. I think maybe a printable, written summary would help for the same reason. I'm not sure if anyone has thought of these ideas yet. I have a capture card and I might record unless someone already is doing or has done so. Here's the intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKwmLIThZnI Beginner pack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E0RqbI38CM Intermediate pack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zcDNd10Lq4 Advanced pack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B24jmNeI7hc | 2009-12-03 21:34:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
| a lot of thanks. very interesting tutorial | 2009-12-05 18:49:00 Author: cualquiercosa327 Posts: 5 |
| lol For some random reason, I feel like playing through all of these again. I dunno, it just seems necessary xD | 2009-12-05 18:57:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355 |
| Hello again.I am very gratefull for the tutorials.(i can not use the pack because i have only the psp). While i am trying to do it, i am also translating this to spanish,my native language.I would like ask your if i can share here when i finish it.(it will keep me a lot of time,i am in middle of the 1.1 lol ,now i need create an AND logic switch) | 2009-12-06 14:30:00 Author: cualquiercosa327 Posts: 5 |
| I love the logic packs. amazing visuals to draw players in and help them learn how to make killer logic! My favorite LBPC levels so far! | 2009-12-14 17:31:00 Author: UberOrbPS  Posts: 290 |
| I love the Logic packs, amazing visuals to draw you in and killer Logic. My favorite LBPC levels so far! | 2009-12-14 17:33:00 Author: UberOrbPS Posts: 290 |
| I checked these levels out last night. It's very well done, and I learned a few things too! Thanks to everyone who was involved in this project | 2009-12-17 14:09:00 Author: Powershifter  Posts: 668 |
| I've only played 1 level so far, but congrats on earning a Sackademy Award: http://www.littlebigplanet.com/en-us/news/article/the_sackies_-_best_fan_project_of_the_year | 2009-12-18 01:49:00 Author: TTH247 Posts: 11 |
| it made me feel like a nerd knowing exactly what they were talking about, even in the advanced pack... lol good job, very impressed with the way it was presented! Lol. I started to malfunction like Dr. Nefarious and start playing crappy soap operas inside my head. It felt really weird :/ Not bad, but weird. | 2009-12-30 18:35:00 Author: Oerjeke Posts: 234 |
| Really Good. It will help me with my new levels coming up. Keep up the good work! | 2010-01-27 16:18:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Hey Hi Logic | 2010-02-22 01:58:00 Author: SuperSacky  Posts: 1 |
| Erm... *walks away* Off topic, My Predictive text uses RTM than it does "erm" | 2010-02-22 07:48:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| And obviously more than it uses "more" Any plans to expand or update the logic pack with incremental bolts, low thermo toggles, set-resets etc? | 2010-02-22 08:53:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Not really. It took a lot out of those involved. It was fun, but we have moved on. If someone is truly involved with learning more logic, then we hope they can find their way here, where the resources are available. That's not to say it won't happen someday... | 2010-02-22 13:02:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
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