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Ohhh man does anyone else still play this game. This is honestly the first game i ever completely lost myself in i was so good up to level 29 i think. I love this game really am crossing my fingers for more and wanted to know if anyone else hear shared my passion for the game.

2009-03-12 01:02:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

Yep, I love it! They are working on the next elder scrolls, which (according to an unreliable source) is also an Oblivion game. I guess its more gate closing.

2009-03-12 01:09:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

Yep I deffinately do and I know morgana does for sure..she's like level 45. I've made a few games on my friends account before. I recently got the GOTY eddition for PS3. My guys currently level 16; i'm a wood elf theif vampire.

I'm pretty evil....so far i've gotten up to the first mission on the dead drops ....prob just like 1/4 way through the theives guild. And I beat the main story line for shivering isles....theres so much to do. I love this game a lot!

I am disappointed to see bethesda's apparent hatred for Sony was passed on to even the GOTY eddition....they left out the free horse armor voucher (that i use on the dark brother hoods horse) and also the vampire house..i forget what its called and the pirate one and frost craig spire

2009-03-12 01:09:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Oblivion did absorb me. Funny this thread pops up. I was trying to get back into the game because I had never touched Shivering Isles even though I always had it. Just couldn't get into it. Might try again tonight, though!

FO3 has been eating up most of my time. That and of course, the best game ever, LBP.

2009-03-12 01:10:00

Author:
qrtda235566

Posts: 3664

Microsoft are just bribing them. Obviously!

2009-03-12 01:12:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

yah i'm going to buy the GOTY edition and then i guess life my be over again
seriously though another oblivion i hope so also i really want to see an oblivion MMO man that would be so awesome

2009-03-12 01:12:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

TES 5 has been announced I think.

2009-03-12 01:13:00

Author:
qrtda235566

Posts: 3664

Nevermind found one:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/bethesda-pencils-in-new-elder-scrolls-title-for-2010

2009-03-12 01:14:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

Apparently you can go online on pc but its not very good. (Same source) My source has done every mission 3 times. EVERY one...

2009-03-12 01:16:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

They actually are making an oblivion MMO and a new elder scrolls.....also the original makers of Fallout are making an MMO...they sold the rights to bethesda and they leased the rights back for an MMO lol...

doesn't make any sense...they sold fallout for like 5.75 mill...and in their MMO aggreement they agreed to have 30 million ready for investment by the end of the year and they had to finish it within 4 years of starting...AND pay bethesday 12% of subscription and game profit......IDK why they even sold the rights

2009-03-12 01:40:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

ohh man i'm getting all hyped up for some more oblivion, i guess to hold me over i'll reinstall morrowind since my computer can't run oblivion. WAH

2009-03-12 01:56:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

It's a really nice game, love it and morrowind.

It just kind of grates on my nerves after a while.

2009-03-12 02:49:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

I am a huge geek for this game! (Ask Hamsalad )

I've spent over a year playing it. I've got a level 45 Wood Elf. She's a goodie 2 shoes but in an alternate save game she's pretty bad.

2009-03-12 03:23:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I got this game (GOTY ed) over a year ago for Xmas, but I'm kind of disappointed that I only got so far.

I don't know... maybe its that I have a hard time with such an open ended game, but it seems like there is an infinite number of quests and caves to explore.

Advice? Should I just go and close all the oblivion gates or what? I was powerlevelling my character as a mage, spent most of my time doing that. Now what?

2009-03-12 03:39:00

Author:
Thegide

Posts: 1465

Advice? Should I just go and close all the oblivion gates or what? I was powerlevelling my character as a mage, spent most of my time doing that. Now what?

I've closed all the gates but one.... I just don't want to actually "finish" the main story line just yet. There are TONS of side quests and stuff to do. I have the GOTY edition too and just can't rave enough about it. You get the Knights of the 9 and Shivering Isle stories with the GOTY edition and those can take hours and hours to finish. I just finished the Shivering Isle one and still wander around there because it's so stunningly beautiful.

Bottom line - I think it's up to you if you want to close the gates first or leave them until later - it doesn't affect how they play out in the end. Depending on what kind of player you are there are some quests you may really like and others you might not.

2009-03-12 03:45:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

My friend borrowed this like a year ago! I reeeaally need to get it back...

2009-03-12 03:47:00

Author:
ryryryan

Posts: 3767

ok - I couldn't help it. I've wanted to set up a social group and this thread inspired me. I made a social group for Oblivion fans. I have no idea what purpose it serves to join a social group except to let people know what your into but hey, why not. Here's the link to the group. (I think I can post that here? If not - mods be gentle - I'm in uncharted waters for me.)

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=94

2009-03-12 04:00:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Yeah I'm a huge fan of the game, I played it for 200+ hours across 4 characters. Very addictive and so much more fun than Fallout 3. It was the first game I got for the PS3, I actually bought it before the PS3.

I haven't played it in quite a while now, I keep wanting to get the GOTY version in order to play the Shivering Isles but keep stopping myself. I haven't finished the main quest either but I've finished the guilds multiple times (probably spent the most time playing the Thieves' and Dark Brotherhood questlines, finished both 3 times) and loads of side quests and I finished the Knights of the Nine as well.

I'll probably get back into the game at some point. I've written loads of posts that turned into mini-essays proclaiming my love for the game. I might try to find some of them...

EDIT:

Here are some: Oblivion...where do I start. Well I guess I should tell you I've invested over 130 hours in this game spread mainly across two characters and have started a third lately. This is the most amount of time I have put into any game I have ever played.

The start of the game was good. Not excellent but good. It's fairly easy and you learn the ropes fairly gradually but not too slowly. The pacing is just right. One thing though, you probably won't want to play it twice if you start a second character so just when you reach the exit for the sewers (it's a gate with a greenish fog around it) save the game and NEVER delete it or save over it. This is because when you reach and activate that gate you can completely redesign your character if you wish.

One tip I'll give you is to maybe look up a walkthrough about creating a character. The strange thing about Oblivion's levelling system is that the major skills you choose raise in level much quicker than the minor skills and they also start at a minimum skill level of 25. After a certain number of major skill raises you raise a character level which makes the enemies in the game a little harder. Now the problem with this is that if you choose your favourite skills as major skills and use them all the time then you'll quickly become overpowered by the enemies you will be facing. So just look for a guide online and check out which skills level too quickly (eg. sneak, acrobats, athletics and most magics etc) and which will be fine as major skills (eg. blade, marksman, block etc).

Now when when you exit that gate, the true beauty of the game world hits you. I mean wallops you... you'll sit stunned for about 10 seconds without moving. It's probably one of the most enjoyable and memorable moments I've had in a game. The setting is just amazing. And now the true game starts.

Tips:

Start the Mages guild first so that you'll be able to create your own spells.

The Thieves guild is amazing and the final mission is some of the most enjoyable time I've ever spent playing a game.

Check out any Ayleid ruin you come across. I was wary of this at the start but they are incredible to play and can be extremely tense.

Potions can be a good source of income at the start. You'll need a mortar & pestle. You'll find one in before exiting the sewers.

Walk to your first destination. You can fast-travel in this game but IMO it is important to walk the first journey to get your first experience with the animals that populate the world, harvesting plants and crops, fighting both animals and bandits and raiding your first Ayleid ruin or Goblin's cave.

And for my final tip... disregard every single tip above this ! IMO that is one of the many beauties of Oblivion, you can do anything you want in the game and explore the world in any way you feel like and still have an amazing time playing. Just randomly walking can mean that you come across some very rewarding quests. Do whatever you feel like doing and do it. It's the most enjoyable way to learn about the game and you'll be immersed in this wonderful world in no time!

"A really fantastic game. I've spent over 130 hours playing the game with 2 characters and I'm still loving it. I have two gripes. One is the loading times. I would enjoy the game so much more if they were quicker. I don't really mind them with fast-travelling but IMO there shouldn't be any when entering a town or when entering a house. My second is that the pointer isn't very accurate especially when picking stuff up from a table or when scanning a bookshelf. Some more work should have gone into it. However I still love this game and have it to thank for getting me used to the First-Person perspective which I didn't like before. I love the combat system, magic system, alchemy system and some of the quests and tombs are unforgettable. I have so much yet to do in this game and yet still don't mind taking the time to harvest crops from a farm I pass by. Score 9.5"

Some of the tombs are amazing. All of them have something different and their design is fantastic. You can easily tell that a hell of a lot of work went into them. And that just one set of areas in the game!

The guilds are fantastic, you'll want to do the first few quests of the Mages guild first so you can create spells. The last mission in the Thieves Guild is some of the most fun I've ever had in gaming. The Dark Brotherhood is also pretty good though it is slightly dark for my liking. I kind of get sick of killing seemingly fairly innocent people. The combat IS very satisfying and yet also very very easy to get the hang of. And the magic system is just excellent with many different animations and loads of different spells.

The game is definitely a must-play.

Seems everybody's making the same threads lately I keep repeating the same stuff over again. I'll make this a bit different by mainly concentrating on gameplay hours and how long it will last you.

I'd go with Oblivion. It's an amazing game and will last you well above 100 hours. The general accepted lengths of the main quests are:

Main Storyline: 40 hours
Knights of the Nine (in both versions of Oblivion on PS3): 20 hours
Shivering Isles: (in GOTY or on PSN for $30 for those with original): 20-30 hours.

So that's 80-90 hours.

Then there's the guilds which, if playing straight through, will last at the very very least 10 hours each IMO.

120-130 hours.

And after that there's the arena (a few hours), loads of miscellaneous quests that fill the game (found it towns, randomly when exploring the world and at shrines which dot the landscape) and loads of Ayleid ruins, Goblin caves and Vampire dens to raid.

And when you've done all that it's incredibly enjoyable to just start a new character with new abilities and a new look and do any of it it all over again.

I've put 130 hours into this game mainly across two characters and I started another recently. Within that time I've finished the mages guild twice, the thieves guild twice and got pretty far in the Dark Brotherhood twice (my conscience got the better of me twice ). I've done the first few missions in the main storyline and then left it. I've explored the world a lot and done many miscellaneous missions.

But I haven't started the KotN and don't own the Shivering Isles. I haven't started the Fighter's guild. I've explored minimal Ayleid ruins, caves and dens. So there's a hell of a lot of game still there for me to experience and still I've put in 130 hours. And I've enjoyed every single one of those hours tremendously.

Basically if you are looking for an incredible game that will last you a long, long time and easily keep you going til GTA IV, go with Oblivion. I'm not a big RPG fan or a big fan of the first person perspective (I used to hate it). But this game made me forget all that and I'm delighted I bought it.

2009-03-12 04:40:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

I loved Oblivion and put a ton of time into both it and the Shivering Isles expansion. Great game.

2009-03-12 05:01:00

Author:
mrsupercomputer

Posts: 1335

Yep - me too. I played this game until I just couldn't do anything else - I did every quest I could find, bought every house, and had so much treasure it didn't really matter anymore. Absolutely amazing.

2009-03-12 05:02:00

Author:
CCubbage

Posts: 4430

ohhh man i have to beat thieves guild, i forgot i never did that, also i need to get GOTY edition so i can play shivering isles i played it for my friend on his xbox and pretty much beat it with him, man i really want to play this does anyone want to say their my adult so i can go buy this game again.

2009-03-12 21:42:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

the shivering isles main quest line takes a while to beat...it was worth it...

I play the game on medium and refuse to turn it down...its very hard on medium. I can't even imagine what it's like on hard, I'm going to deem it impossible right now. I feel cheap a lot of times becasue I just run away and shoot guys.... I do A LOT of sneak attacks. (I'm a theif / rogue guys)

The Jugalad (The last boss in Shivering Isles) is very very hard on medium... I beat him just by running and shooting him in the face w/ my bow. He regens health too so it was a pain I had to stay on him the whole time

2009-03-12 22:28:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

2009-03-12 23:37:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I was like 15 when I did him...lol...also what difficulty do you play on? Because like I said medium is really really hard.....and I seriously think hard would be like impossible

2009-03-13 00:05:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

I think it's medium.... let me go check - I forget.

2009-03-13 01:08:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I play on Medium apparently. Hey - I found the name of those 2 spells I was looking for I mentioned on your visitor message. Finger of the Mountain - costs 1639MP to cast and Enemies Explode costs - 388MP to cast. Still working on being able to cast them.

sorry if that's a "double post" I'm still learning the whole forum thing.

2009-03-13 01:22:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

no it's not....and that enemies explode one sounds crazy...ya medium is if you leave it directly in the middle....it's weird even if you turn it just one click to the left the difficulty gets insanely easier

2009-03-13 01:24:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

ohhh man i have to beat thieves guild, i forgot i never did that

Dude, seriously you have to finish it. The last few missions are some of the most fun I've had ever while playing a game! It simply has to be played. So satisfying!

I've just bought SF4, Bioshock and Dead Space within the last few days so I think Oblivion GOTY will have to wait

. Really shouldn't have bought SF4, Alpha 3 Max on PSP is fun but I don't find 4 all that fun.

2009-03-13 03:34:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

I'll have to play it again...

Lord Sheogorath is the best character of any game, ever.

2009-03-13 05:16:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

ugh i want to go get this pretty bad, i so wish my copy wasn't broken

2009-03-14 00:35:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

Yeah I completely dominated in the game. Must have done all the DB quests about 6 times in total with my argonian characters (hated all other races bar the mystic elf {mod}).

Then as a joke I set myself the challenge of turning the game on it's head and making a futuristic shooter with a squad you controlled. When I'd completed it I hardly recognised the game at all! I used so many mods that even talking to someone and looking at your compass wouldn't make you think it was Oblivion.

2009-03-14 09:53:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

I lucked out and did the Shivering Isle stuff after I'd leveled up a bit. I didn't have too much trouble with Jyggalag but I was level 43 or 44 at the time. I can't imagine how hard he would be at a lower level - yikes!

You do know that everything levels up with you, right? Being a higher level shouldnt make it easier.

2009-03-14 10:00:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

I really enjoyed played the game, was an imperial first, I finished all the quests apart one.
I would love if an other older of the scroll was coming soon or not! :-)
The game absorb me totally!

2009-03-14 10:56:00

Author:
mfd17

Posts: 67

I played Oblivion a little bit on PC and have been thinkign about getting the GOTY version on ps3 for ages, really enjoyed the whole open world and customation. Must buy soon

2009-03-14 17:37:00

Author:
mehmeh8

Posts: 25

You do know that everything levels up with you, right? Being a higher level shouldnt make it easier.

I know the random stuff levels up with you - wasn't sure about the big boss guys. I guess I was just lucky at hitting him before he toasted me.

2009-03-14 19:13:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I'm not too sure... even though everything levels up with you, when you get some of the GREAT armour and weapons you get to a point where the game becomes a cake walk. By the time I was playing Shivering Isles I was so powerful I could walk into almost anything and never die. Whereas at the beginning of the game I had a hard time with the crabs on the beach lol.....

I beat the final boss in Shivering Isles in about 8 seconds.

2009-03-16 20:03:00

Author:
CCubbage

Posts: 4430

wow.....ya i'm pretty sure everything is equal level to you or at a static higher than you rate....But you do get special abilites / uber armor / weapons. Like disarming or paralyzing people etc.

2009-03-16 20:40:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

I beat the final boss in Shivering Isles in about 8 seconds.

I think it took me about 20 seconds. But I'm overly cautious, even at level 45.

2009-03-16 23:50:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

you have to be to get anywhere in the game if you just go in expecting to kill everyone all the time it may backfire eventually

2009-03-17 00:20:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

tea I spent a whole lot of time on this game. Completely beat the game (every quest side quest everything) with two different characters.

Loved the Assassin's and Thieves guild quests.

2009-03-17 01:05:00

Author:
Madafaku

Posts: 738

2009-03-17 01:47:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

wow dude....EVERY quest? that's pretty insane...anyone make a spell caster guy? I have one like level 7 on a friends account, my only gripe is you don't get +stealth attack from sneak spells i don't think which doesn't make sense

I've been meaning to but I always seem to stray into the "Robin Hood" kind of character; ie, I do morally good things except I steal from rich people and redistribute amongst.....myself.

Anyone ever make good use of the creature summoning? I really never have and might experiment with that, my last non-thief character was an axe-wielding, vampiric Nord assassin.

2009-03-17 02:59:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

Anyone ever make good use of the creature summoning? I really never have and might experiment with that, my last non-thief character was an axe-wielding, vampiric Nord assassin.

They are good for fodder if you have multiple enemies or need a distraction to get out of an area. Other than that - no really.

Cool sounding character too.

2009-03-17 03:44:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

yea i did somthing like that once, turned my mage character into more of a necromancer type.. was pretty cool, but it turns out skeletons are useless and the only summoned mobs worth anything are the greater daedra things.. (think it was like a xaxfilia or somthing wierd that started with an X)

I always liked to break out of jail.. I would do this thing where I went into every jail, and killed a few guards and stashed their bodies in my cell, so no matter what even if my pick broke I would still get out.

also found with my thief guy that when you go to kill rufio for the assassins, you can just sneak next to his bead and build sneak skill... this was kindof cool I just snuck and layed a book on the controller so that he would keep moving and building skill. then I went to bed and woke up and was like level 30 or 40 somthing. kinda neat except that now all the enemies are super tough and the only skill I have is sneak. not too bad really most of the time.

BTW the hardest most time consuming and least rewarding quest was probably either the collector, where you had to get the dude all the statues, or finding your roots with all the nimroot. but yea I even became a vampire so that I could do the vampire cure quest.

2009-03-17 04:45:00

Author:
Madafaku

Posts: 738

2009-03-17 04:54:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

The worst quest for me was that one where you had to hunt the fish... I think you got a "jewel of the rumare" or something (spelling?) It's been a while since I played, but the fish would never spawn for me.

Yea - fish quest was pretty dull. The only good thing about the statue quests was I love the elven ruins. So beautiful down there.

2009-03-17 06:03:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

2009-03-17 07:04:00

Author:
Madafaku

Posts: 738

oh yea forgot all about the fish quest.. my first time through I ended up killing the guy and stealing his life savings (like 200 gold or somthing) yea that's one of the worst.

I agree tho the ruins are pretty.. thats the great thing about this game, you can loose hours without doing anything but walk around and look how pretty everything is.

Him, and almost everyone I helped, I'd just pickpocket them and ransack their home afterwards... I'm horrible. :kz:

Yeah, I also get lost in how nice the scenery can be, I like that the ruins are generally unique, unlike the caves if I remember correctly. I loved exploring the ruins and finding their secrets, as well as hoarding the pretty crystals.

Crazy how people could complete everything in the game multiple times over already, I still didn't finish all the guild lines in Oblivion or even Morrowind, much less find all the random, misc. quests and what not! There's a ridiculous amount of content in it.

2009-03-17 08:15:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

Him, and almost everyone I helped, I'd just pickpocket them and ransack their home afterwards... I'm horrible. :kz:

Yeah, I also get lost in how nice the scenery can be, I like that the ruins are generally unique, unlike the caves if I remember correctly. I loved exploring the ruins and finding their secrets, as well as hoarding the pretty crystals.

Crazy how people could complete everything in the game multiple times over already, I still didn't finish all the guild lines in Oblivion or even Morrowind, much less find all the random, misc. quests and what not! There's a ridiculous amount of content in it.

Same here ohh man just barley scratching the surface here especially since now i'll have Shivering Isles, when i get the game finally

2009-03-17 22:27:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

I have never done the fish quest but it certaintly doesn't sound fun..

2009-03-17 22:33:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

the only fun you can make of it, (imo) would be to go hand to hand with them. Helps if you can breathe underwater though. (psst.... anyone else find Fin Gleam btw?)

2009-03-17 22:51:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I don't think I have, Morgana, never even heard of that :o.

The fish quest really sucks because of the spawn rate, the arrow will point to fish you already killed until their corpse despawns... and the fish are annoying to fight.

I'm starting to itch for playing this again, maybe after I clean up this PC a bit.

2009-03-18 00:02:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

I started a new game today. Im a lvl 5 Dunmer called Bill. I have the waterfront house. I have got all recommendations for the mages guild. Medium difficulty.

Im doing ok.

2009-03-18 00:23:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

I think I did bad in power leveling myself...becasue i play on medium but I am always jumping / healing myself to "power level"...which thinking about it is dumb because that could be part of the reason why i'm having such a hard time...because my blade / armor and what not probably isn't up to par w/ my level.

also how do you get a house in the water front so soon moley...I never tried so it might not be that hard...my current guys got like 14k gold or so and I have a bunch of stuff to sell still

2009-03-18 00:26:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Played the game for the first time in ages today. Playing a Bosmer called Fitz (very loosely based on the main character from my favourite books). Class = Wolf. Level 15, finished Dark Brotherhood, Thieves' Guild, Knights of the Nine and currently on the main quest. First time I've ever played it really. Only on the Dagon Shrine quest so probably a long way to go.

Went into Fort Urasek today (East of Imperial City Prison) and was getting owned by some goblin mages. Then had the bright idea to open a door with a very hard lock and a whole load of high level vampires came streaming out (no idea what the hell they were doing there!). So I high-tailed it out of there, jumping all over the place, got lost, ran into the room that the vampires came from, opened a chest and there was a really cool ring. Then flew out of there with 7/8 vampires and zombies after me. THEN decided to be clever and went back in trying to pick them off with arrows but two of the Goblin mages hit me with lightning and killed me. Yes, I'm very bright I know

. Don't want to go back in now... it was a very cool ring though...

2009-03-18 00:43:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

that sounds like a pretty crazy dungeon...I wonder if theres other means of becomming a vampire besides the guy from the dark brootherhood turning you... I remember I desperately wanted to become one when i played elder scrolls a long time ago but IDK if you could in that game...I kind of regret becomming one in Oblivion but its not bad

2009-03-18 00:53:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

2009-03-18 01:12:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

If you fight any vampire you have a chance to contract vampirism. If you get infected and don't get yourself cured you'll go full on vamp eventually. I think you just need to sleep after getting it for it to take effect. You'll get the weird dream reference if you've done it right..... I think - any confirmation out there?

EDIT: Fin Gleam is a really cool glass helmet. Let's you breathe underwater and see in the dark. Hard to find on your own though. Unless you like diving for pearls... (small hint)

Ahh I see, that does sound cool! And yes you're right, any vampire NPC you fight can give you disease ( I don't know what it's called exactly, but it'll tell you that you caught something) .. and if you don't cure it, and go on a few days... well... too late, sucker! (get it?)

2009-03-18 01:18:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

EDIT: Fin Gleam is a really cool glass helmet. Let's you breathe underwater and see in the dark. Hard to find on your own though. Unless you like diving for pearls... (small hint)

I just use two unchanted rings for that effect. My Nighteyes Ring is extremely handy

. And I just use the Jewel of Rumare for breathing.

It's taking so long to upgrade my armorer skill, I still can't fix enchanted weapons and armour. Very annoying restriction!

Regarding the vampirism, yeah I'm pretty sure there's a dream reference after you become one. One thing I don't like about it, you don't get any obvious indication that you have Porphyric Hemophilia after it says you've contracted it (unless you check your spell status). I still haven't become one yet with any of my characters. I guess I've been leaving it until after I finish the main quest.

Man I love this game

! I wonder if this is my favourite game of all time as no matter how much I play it I don't get sick of it. I get sick of the difficulty sometimes or certain restrictions but I never get sick of the world and the gameplay in general.

2009-03-18 01:31:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

Ya this is my fav game by far...the only thing that sucks is I hear there is a game breaking bug for the vampirisim quest for PS3 owners only (go figure bethesda )...that doesn't let you continue talking to a NPC after you get some blood grass.

I need to get a water breathing item

2009-03-18 01:39:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

this game is the greatest game this is the only game that i can and have actually sat inside and played marathon style one rainy day. One day a little after i got the game I skipped lunch and played all day i got so far and since then i've been hooked and now it's time for me to get that game again

2009-03-18 02:45:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

I know the feeling - I've had many a "lost weekend" sitting in front of this game too. It can be totally mesmerizing if you let it be.

2009-03-18 06:05:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

i love Oblivion i played it for like a month straight last summer and then my disc stopped working. i got the GOTY edition at Christmas so when i get free time (probaly at easter holidays) i'll start again

2009-03-19 17:10:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Im hooked again now. I have made over 900 potions in 3 days. My Alchemy is at 81. Thats about 27 levels a day. Its not even a major skill.

Journeyman mages guild. No other guilds yet. Expert alchemist. Joureyman alteration.

I have a staff that does 99 damage. Im level six.

I cant believe I got addicted again! Its your fault!

2009-03-20 01:38:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

What staff is that holy crap

2009-03-20 01:55:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

What staff is that holy crap

Its in imperial city staff shop owned by Rindir. It does 33 shock, fire and frost damage.

2009-03-20 02:00:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

What staff is that holy crap

Hold on to your helmet - they get bigger and even more dangerous.... wait till you can make your own

2009-03-20 04:40:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

i need to get something like that lol....im just using the dawn fang from shivering isles....and that staff seems really OP compared to that

2009-03-20 05:39:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Dawn Fang is pretty cool. I'm using Umbra at the moment. Well - when I'm not making pincushions out of things with my bow!

2009-03-20 05:44:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Ya I use the bow a lot...Is that the 2H sword you get from kiling your shadow? Because I got that as well. But I use the Dawnfang because I'm a conservationist and it recharges itself lol.

By the way I added a second part to the story I didn't know if you saw it or not(it's pretty short, I'll prob put up another one tonight maybe or tomorrow.). I'm going to add in as many people as I can peice by peice. I"ll boot up LBP in a sec and play your level too, are you online? I've just been playing w/ this new drum program i downloaded / playing guitar

2009-03-20 05:48:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

i'll be on in like 10 minutes. - I'll check out the story too.

Umbra is a quest item. It steals souls and charges crystals you can use to recharge all magic weapons. Very handy.

2009-03-20 06:11:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

OK I'm addicted again! I've never played the main quest before so all of yous probably know this but Azura's Star has to be the best item in a game ever (well not really but I love it!). My enchanted blade and bow will never run out of juice now!

I included soul trap with their enchantment so I'm unstoppable, for a while at least

2009-03-20 11:22:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

so you get that azure's star from the quest line and it makes it so your enchants don't deplete?

2009-03-20 18:08:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

so you get that azure's star from the quest line and it makes it so your enchants don't deplete?

Well no not exactly. You get it from a Daedra Statue Quest that you find out about via Martin during the main quest line. And there are 14 other quests that you can do instead but you'll have to find out about them yourself. Also it doesn't stop your enchantments from depleting, instead it acts as a Grand Soul Gem that doesn't get used up when you use the soul inside to recharge or to enchant an item. So just enchant a weapon with Soul Trap for as long as the other enchantments you put on the weapon last and you'll get recharge points every time you kill a creature with a soul small enough to fit in a Grand Soul Gem.

It's so handy that I have it on my d-pad and every time I beat a creature I just tap the D-pad and recharge either my bow or dagger. However if you have empty soul gems in your inventory which are smaller than Grand they will fill first. And you must use up the recharge points for it to take another soul, so be careful not to keep killing stuff as your other empty grand soul gems will start to fill up.

Here's a link:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Azura%27s_Star

BTW that site is an amazing reference for the game.

2009-03-20 18:16:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

I also enchanted the first blades sword they gave me and named it the "hobo killer"

OMG - that's funny! My brother's character (think stereotypical huge sword wielding Nord tough guy) has gauntlets that he enchanted so that when he hits people his hand to hand scores plus the enchantment on the gauntles do massive damage - he's named them "pizza cutters" and he's got a sword that does a ton of fire dammage he calls "burn ward". Not very sensitive - I know, but he's not very sensitive in video games.

2009-03-25 21:11:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

lol those are some pretty good names. I was thinking of doing unarmed before. I didnt know how good it ever got. Was going to do it in Fallout too. Seems like it may be a disadvantage right away but better later?

2009-03-25 21:26:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Not sure if sooner is better than later but it's fun to watch him box dadrea (or is it daedra?) I'm sticking to punching crabs for now - not too high a hand to hand level yet.

2009-03-25 22:04:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I have several morrowind and oblivion games where I ONLY use hand to hand and unarmored.. it has its advantages, like the fact your weapon never breaks and I get more space in my inventory to devote to my drug addictions.

I mean... treasures in dungeons.

2009-03-27 02:12:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

That is a good point. Being a 2 handed user with heavy armor means you need to be carrying some pretty heavy gear around with you all the time.

2009-03-27 06:30:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

lol for fun before...I was a maxed out vampire and had my speed maxed and was wearing dark brother hood armor...and I keept popping skooma to see how fast I could run...I eventually got my intelligence down to 1 lol

and i could run REALLY fast haha

2009-03-27 06:45:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

OMG - dumb as a box of rocks but faster than "Thee Flash" 'eh? Actually that could come in handy for some Oblivion situations. lol

2009-03-27 07:08:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

the only funny thing i did was go on a massive killing spree. for one of the daedra quests, you need to have low personality, but i thought they meant my fame was too high (kept saying i was too pleasant to be around). so i went to the northern mountain town (bravil?) and slaughtered all the guards. then after getting a massive fine, i went back to the daedra only to find out i needed to be drunk (looked online)

2009-03-28 00:29:00

Author:
RickTheRipper

Posts: 345

I've come back to playing this game. It's always been too big for me to handle, but I'm giving it another go. I've decided to play a stealthy Nord, as the high strength means less back and forth between dungeons.

The main skills I've chosen are a bit of a mixed bag. I've intentionally tried to pick skills that always take a while for me to develop, so that I don't go up 10 levels per hour of play.

I've never really explored the main quest though. I keep enjoying dungeon exploration too much. :blush:

So far I'm level 3 and have made it to Chorral after clearing out some sewers and bandit lairs at the Imperial city. I've managed to join the Theives guild, Fighter's Guild and Mage's guild, but haven't progressed very far with those quest lines.

Well, I'll have to see how I go. I hope I don't get swamped again in terms of the sheer size of this game. :eek:

2009-03-31 15:52:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

I hope I don't get swamped again in terms of the sheer size of this game. :eek:

Just take it slow, one quest/dungeon at a time. Though I understand that mentality, it's probably the reason I haven't played LBP that much... :blush:

2009-03-31 18:08:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

It's really immense but Phillaysteven is right - just take them one at a time otherwise you can get really overwhelmed by all the potential the game has. First time I went through it I just wandered around doing random quests and dungeons until I had a pretty good feel for the world and game mechanics. Then I got "serious" about the main quests.

2009-03-31 18:20:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I'm tempted to go back to Oblivion; though the mods still seem a bit stale. Just today my Fallout 3 guy got his Grey Knight Armour and Halberd so I'm just having nerdy orgasms over that.

I haven't tried a mage/archer, are they any good? I would imagine at the start they'd suck hard but with some illusion skill to track people and alchemy to make hardcore poisons, later on I imagine it'd be easier?

2009-03-31 20:40:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

The only problem I found with playing an archer is keeping a supply of decent ammo... and mage I find it's annoying to keep your mana levels up. Or maybe I'm just a noob and don't know what to do

2009-03-31 20:43:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

i made a new character (argonian spellsword) and things are going pretty well. im still in the beginning (have steel armor) but my guy is kicking some goblin rump!

2009-03-31 23:26:00

Author:
RickTheRipper

Posts: 345

The only problem I found with playing an archer is keeping a supply of decent ammo... and mage I find it's annoying to keep your mana levels up. Or maybe I'm just a noob and don't know what to do

I'm always stashing arrows in one of my houses and just periodically pop in to reload. When you get to the point of the game where you can enchant stuff - you can really dose up the arrows so even mediocre arrows can do some pretty wicked magick damage. Check out the Shivering isle for some cool bone arrows and I like the one's the Light and Dark guardians have. Decent damage and not too heavy.

2009-03-31 23:30:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

this game sounds good.

am guessing its rpg?
or is it like prince of persia? xD

2009-03-31 23:35:00

Author:
Unknown User

It is a HUGE rpg! How have you not heard of it?

I have finished the mages guild now. I am level 6 and have done no other quests. I am an alchemy beast! I pwn this game!

2009-03-31 23:46:00

Author:
moleynator

Posts: 2914

It's an absolutely huge rpg - from the same guys that did Fallout 3. Really excellent game if you like the genre.

2009-03-31 23:48:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

just watched a review from ign.
i'd probably get bored

2009-03-31 23:48:00

Author:
Unknown User

2009-04-01 19:22:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Yea - I forget which critter gives them out - I think it's the grunty looking fish guys - they have them and if you wander the isle you can get them.

2009-04-02 00:31:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

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Oh and BTW does the stealth mutliplier work on the arrow enchantments?

2009-04-02 13:53:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

Oh, duh Morgana... I always carried my entire stock of arrows with me, I'm not sure why I never thought of storing them in my house like everything else.

hehe

2009-04-02 14:11:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

I'm not sure if steath affects the arrows..... something i need to look into

2009-04-02 17:01:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

I know for sure stealth affects normal arrow damage, you can get one hit kills on NPCs like that at the beginning... great fun. Not sure how that translates to enchantments though, I actually never used enchanted weapons, only armor....

2009-04-02 17:17:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

I couldn't find info on stealth stats and arrows but I found this, which I didn't know before could be handy.

"Additionally, any stolen item that is enchanted will remove the stolen tag, "laundering" it."

Just run a cheap enchantment on something and you can launder it.... cool.

2009-04-02 17:24:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

So how do you even enchant? Is it with alteration and Soul Gems or something?

2009-04-02 17:35:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

You need to go through the Mage's guild quests then you get access to enchantment alters.

You can use soul stones or sigil stones to affect the enchantments and it costs gold to add stuff to it too. It's a little complicated - more than I can recall in detail at the moment. I think this link is for the PC version but it applies to the PS3 stuff too.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Enchanting

2009-04-02 17:46:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Ah cool. I've never done the mage guild...Wasn't too appealing to me seeing as I'm not a mage lol...I just bought my first house in Bruma and bought everything possible for it...I spent a lot of gold lol..

2009-04-02 18:37:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Yea - the houses are spendy in some places - but they are handy for storage.

Knowing what I do about your character - I'm thinking the house in Anvil would be a good fit for you. It's the cheapest of the homes at 5,000 but you can't use it till you finish the "Where the spirits have lease" quest. It's a nicely dark and creepy house.

2009-04-02 18:43:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Ah, I wish I would've known that before I bought the bruma one... I was looking for a house like that too. The Bruma one is a little too bright for me. I fully decorated it because it looked so boring. With the decoration I was a little disappointed it's just your cookie cutter basic looking Bruma house lol.. I guess IDk what i expect. I'll check out the Anvil one after I make some more money

2009-04-02 19:16:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

The house in the Imperial City is only 2,000 gold, and you don't need to do any quests to get it, just pay the money. You buy the key from a person in the market district, but the house itself is in the waterfront.

I'm up to level 7 now. I've finished mucking about in Chorral and Skingrad. I think I'll spend some time in the arena and going about the Imperial city before going back to try the main quest by visiting Kvatch.

I don't know if I'll ever sleep again though, in game that is. I only really need to sleep when shops are closed, and recently I've been busy doing other quest stuff at night. I'm guessing my actual level would be about 15 or so, it's just I don't go to sleep right after the level up icon appears.

As for those that don't know the game, it was officially launched on the PC and 360 3 years ago now. It's not exactly the newest game on the shelf by any means, though most computer stores still sell it nowadays, along with the expansions. It is a good sign that it remains popular and selling for this long.

2009-04-06 20:20:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

Until LBP I spent more time in this game than any game. I must have spent several hundred hours until I just couldn't find anything else to do. Memories....

Even though it sounds horrible (lol), my favorite quest in the entire game was the "Assasins" quest. Wow! There are some parts in there that still keep me up at night thinking about it. Me and 2 other co-workers were playing it about the same time. We would have lunch and sit and talk about the assasins quest for the entire time.

2009-04-06 20:43:00

Author:
CCubbage

Posts: 4430

Ya, thats deff. my favorite quest line....My favorite quest period (at least so far) is

SPOILERZ!
When you do the quest go sneak into the house as a house guest and murder everyone without anyone catching on to you. Right off the bat I talked that one girl into waiting in the room for the guy...I killed her, killed the chick sleeping on the bed and killed the red guard...All in like 40 seconds lol

2009-04-06 21:09:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

My character is a level 20 redguard vampire I've finished all guilds except fighters. Favourite quest is the last theives guild one and the one ham said.

2009-04-06 21:18:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Not played this for a while, but this game's still awesome. I'm actually doing the everything else before I continue the main quest.

2009-04-06 21:25:00

Author:
Entity

Posts: 274

2009-04-06 21:25:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Hands down Dark Brotherhood quest is the best! I spent over a year playing Oblivion and still spend a night or two a month wandering around. Still haven't officially finished the main quest line - Just one more gate to close but I don't want it to be "finished".

That's the same thing I did with Fallout 3 since I knew after you beat the main quest the game was over (Not the case with Oblivion). But I didn't want it to be over so I went around and did all the quests I could.

2009-04-06 21:28:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

I just bought the really big house in skingaurd (spelled wrong) for 25,000 it's pricey but worth it.

The DArk brotherhood is cool but you don't get a great reward for finishing just 200 gold a week which is nothing at high levels.

I'm gonna start a Mage character in a week or so.

2009-04-06 21:33:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Ah the manor in Skingrad is the best non-mod house; even has a little something special if you look around *hard*, don't want to spoil it though

2009-04-06 21:40:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

I can't wait until I get enough money for a bigger house....I got the one in Bruma and it was pretty disappointing

2009-04-06 21:42:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

I'll look later I'm getting money for the upgrades at the moment. I've bought half of them. I've 2 houses that one an the imperial city one.

2009-04-06 21:43:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Ah the manor in Skingrad is the best non-mod house; even has a little something special if you look around *hard*, don't want to spoil it though

yea - that was a nice touch. I found it.

2009-04-06 21:50:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Anyone else love killing the adoring fan? He's so annoying.

2009-04-06 21:54:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

LOL - there are YouTube vid's of ways to dispatch him. I think my favorie was shoving him from the highest part of the mountains.... I forget the map point name but there's a tiny camp there.

2009-04-06 21:56:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

dive rock?
And one guy shot arrows way up in the air and they came down on the adoring fan.

2009-04-06 21:58:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

I might start a new file. I can't play Fallout for another few months as I find it difficult knowing every little thing about the game now. There's no longer a sense of surprise/adventure.

2009-04-06 22:03:00

Author:
Killian

Posts: 2575

I might start a new file. I can't play Fallout for another few months as I find it difficult knowing every little thing about the game now. There's no longer a sense of surprise/adventure.

If you got it PC there is a great bunch of quests a guy has made. Search 'The refuge' at the fallout 3 nexus. It's about 6 quests at the moment I think and they are SO hard if you're not level 16+.

Seriously, died about 50 times at level 10 because I thought my Crysis Suit would hold up against anything.

They are a real gem with great design.

2009-04-06 22:07:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

The staff of worms is cool.

2009-04-06 22:09:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

The staff of worms is cool.

Team 17? What?

If you got it PC there is a great bunch of quests a guy has made. Search 'The refuge' at the fallout 3 nexus. It's about 6 quests at the moment I think and they are SO hard if you're not level 16+.

Seriously, died about 50 times at level 10 because I thought my Crysis Suit would hold up against anything.

They are a real gem with great design.

Unfortunately I have the PS3 version.

2009-04-06 22:11:00

Author:
Killian

Posts: 2575

Team 17? What?

What's team 17?

And the staff of worm is a staff which leaves you reanimate corpses.

2009-04-06 22:13:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

LOL - there are YouTube vid's of ways to dispatch him. I think my favorie was shoving him from the highest part of the mountains.... I forget the map point name but there's a tiny camp there.

lol so is there like actually a "push" option like in shivering isles for the suicidal guy...Or do they just run into him and move him. either way thats really funny..

2009-04-06 22:24:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Team 17? What?

Unfortunately I have the PS3 version.

1: Hahahahhahaha nice

; google it if you don't know

2: Never, I mean never buy Bethesda games for a console

My cousin made this mistake and had even bought all the expansions for oblivion. He then bought everything all over again for pc XD

2009-04-06 22:25:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

1: Hahahahhahaha nice

; google it if you don't know

2: Never, I mean never buy Bethesda games for a console

My cousin made this mistake and had even bought all the expansions for oblivion. He then bought everything all over again for pc XD

You can buy them for XBOX but just not PS3...They screw Sony; even GOTY eddition for PS3 doesn't include the special houses

2009-04-06 22:28:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

You can buy them for XBOX but just not PS3...They screw Sony; even GOTY eddition for PS3 doesn't include the special houses

It's not that; you miss out on so many amazing mods and creations. Seriously some of the Fallout 3 stuff makes a mockery of what came with the game.

My normal gear is MGS combat armour, a SCAR and a SAS gasmask.

In oblivion it was mostly porn mods so not much of a loss there considering the game included ORCS!

2009-04-06 22:30:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

Yeah microsoft are obviously paying them mega money. Stupid Bill Gates.

Anyone know when the next elder scrolls game is out?

2009-04-06 22:31:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

lol so is there like actually a "push" option like in shivering isles for the suicidal guy...Or do they just run into him and move him. either way thats really funny..

It's not a push option - here's one of the vids. There are a bunch of them on there though.

YouTube - The Adoring Fan at Dive Rock

2009-04-06 22:32:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Some people use paralyse on touch so it looks like a push.

2009-04-06 22:35:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

LOL good video.

2009-04-06 22:37:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

It's not that; you miss out on so many amazing mods and creations. Seriously some of the Fallout 3 stuff makes a mockery of what came with the game.

My normal gear is MGS combat armour, a SCAR and a SAS gasmask.

In oblivion it was mostly porn mods so not much of a loss there considering the game included ORCS!

w/ all those mods it wouldn't feel right to me. I would feel like I am cheating. And also that videos pretty awesome. I didn't know he stayed up there. I'm going to knock him off for sure

2009-04-06 22:44:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

I love the morrowind and oblivion 3rd party mods, some of them are pretty creative.

I always just kept the adoring fan in my basement and used him as a shelf for the endless supply of daedric weapons and armor you find in oblivion.

2009-04-06 23:35:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

lol do you mean you killed him in your basement and just put stuff on him? lol hahahaha

2009-04-06 23:37:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

2009-04-06 23:41:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

Yeah microsoft are obviously paying them mega money. Stupid Bill Gates.

Anyone know when the next elder scrolls game is out?

From the digging i did since i also was wondering i found out 2010 for another Elder Scrolls game but there is also an elder scrolls MMO in the works too that release date so far, unknown all that's known is two Elder Scrolls patents sorry, i want to know too

2009-04-06 23:49:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

lol I'm not even sure if I remember right... I forget if you could give him stuff to hold for you or not, reverse pickpocket maybe?

I think when he dies he respawns at the arena gates. I think my best time with him was when we went into an ayleid ruins and he ran right into a trap that I didn't notice... one of those platforms that falls into spikes... I almost fell into it. Thank you adoring fan!

Wow that's awesome. I didn't know he respawned like that. Ya you could reverse pick pocket him...I've always wanted to reverse pickpocket a grenede in someones pocket in fallout but never did

2009-04-07 00:04:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Wow that's awesome. I didn't know he respawned like that. Ya you could reverse pick pocket him...I've always wanted to reverse pickpocket a grenede in someones pocket in fallout but never did

haha i did that i had no idea it was trophy i thought the animation for that one was kind of funny

2009-04-07 00:13:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

Hands down Dark Brotherhood quest is the best! I spent over a year playing Oblivion and still spend a night or two a month wandering around. Still haven't officially finished the main quest line - Just one more gate to close but I don't want it to be "finished".
Finishing the main quest doesn't mean the game is over. It's just like finishing any other quest - the game just keeps going. Go... go ahead and finish the main quest, then buy the expansion quests! (shivering isles is also fantastic)

2009-04-07 00:46:00

Author:
CCubbage

Posts: 4430

I know I could still play after I finish it but it's sort of my own personal version of "if I don't finish it it's not really over." I sort of like leaving it open ended for now. I've already got Nights of the Nine and Shivering Isles done too. I'll get around to finishing it eventually.

2009-04-07 01:23:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Wow that's awesome. I didn't know he respawned like that. Ya you could reverse pick pocket him...I've always wanted to reverse pickpocket a grenede in someones pocket in fallout but never did

In oblivion You can only give 0 weight stuff from reverse pickpocket otherwise it says you can't place this in a contanior while pickpocekting or something like that.

2009-04-07 02:49:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

I always carried everything I owned, never knew when you might need a scroll with 'improve speechcraft on target'

EDIT: ZOMG fallout 3 ironsights mod (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3795)

2009-04-07 10:11:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

I can't carry everything I own I couldn't move then. Carrying stuff is easier after finishing the thirves guild.

Spoilers for theives guild

Cause the gray cowl gives 200 feather.

2009-04-07 11:53:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

2009-04-07 13:12:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

Well I always played as an assassin when I went for a full game run through so all I needed was a dagger and poison; armour was light and I sold anything I picked up.

It always bothered me that the NPCs didn't buy anything that I stole; I'd steal all their food and they wouldn't ever replace it! Hard to code I know but it just seemed a bit stupid that people would live in a completely empty house.

You're kind of right here... part of the Oblivion AI originally I believe was that people would actually work, make money, and go out and buy food and supplies on a regular basis.

It's really cool at least to see people reading books or eating food that IS in their home.

2009-04-07 15:31:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

So I'm levl 23 now going to start a new character soon maybe a mage just for a change cause I nearly always play as a warrior.

2009-04-08 00:20:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Well I finally got round to starting up my character and I've noticed such a difference and realise why Fallout is much better.

First off the obvious things like graphics are much better on fallout and the sounds are better (though I've been using a sound mod so maybe that's why).

The animations in third person are laughable in comparison with Fallout's ones but I can't ever think of a time when I thought they were good.

Then minor things like pressing A to loot all and right clicking to drop something are missing which are minor annoyances.

Things I do like though are the individual rank ups but I still think speed is stupid. Also the birthsign thing hasn't been brought to Fallout and i can't think why not.

Before Oblivion would've been 10/10 but now it's more an 8/10. Just makes me wonder what the next Elder Scrolls will make me think about Fallout!

2009-04-08 18:20:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

Wow I think Oblivion owns fallout. Fallout has great imersion and a good story but Oblivion is just so Epic.

2009-04-08 23:24:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Wow I think Oblivion owns fallout. Fallout has great imersion and a good story but Oblivion is just so Epic.

agreed. I love Fallout but oblivion has so much more to offer.

2009-04-09 00:29:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

if they would fuse oblivion with fallouts fighting/leveling system (kill enemies in a few hits and gain EXP for killing/quests), i would be extremely happy

2009-04-09 00:33:00

Author:
RickTheRipper

Posts: 345

Well, I'm up to level 11 now. I've done I think 7 arena matches now, and I'm trying to clear a 4 level ruin, work on the second thieves guild quest, and work on the "Order of the Virtuous Blood" side quest.

I've learnt a lot about the value of destruction magic and summoning in the arena though. Most of the opponents in there are heavy melee/shield users. They will block, then counter you with a power hit. Two ways to work around this are using a summoned creature to hit them in the back, and use destructiion "on touch" magic. You can hold block while casting, and the magic will completely ignore their block, meaning they take full damage and preventing them from staggering you and then power counter attacking.

My Marksmen skill is actually not as good as I thought it would be. I use to always open up with a stealthed shot, then shoot them till they were in melee range then swap over, but now that my stealth skill is over 50 and I have a curaiss with a permanent Chameleon 20 enchantment on it, it's usually better to get in and start with melee. 6 x 9 = 54 damage melee start compared to (5+5) x 3 = 30 missile start. It's not a hard and fast thing, and it depends on the opponent, but my main non-arena enemies now are skeletal guardians. They like to block, counter and power hit but move very slowly (in comparison to the fast arena opponents) so I'll start with a melee stealth hit, then move in to melee range so they start to swing, step back so they miss, then step in and do a destruction on touch spell, while holding block just in case they actually get a hit in. It tends to kill them quickly while minimising the damage I take.

I'm doing about 1 arena match a day. I could power through them, but they are quite intense (the opponents are meant to be tough, and get worse as it goes on) so I need the mental break after each fight.

I've got my armorer skill above 50 now which is good. No more relutance to use magical armor due to a lack of repairing.

I sure would like to get merchantile above 50 though. It's frustrating having 200 weight of loot from dungeon clearing, only to come back in the middle of the night and have only inns open that won't buy your gear.

I do like my house in the Imperial city, however. Though it's small, the 4 storage containers are handy. I can store my spare alchemical junk in one, my spare weapons and armor in another, have a 3rd one for stuff that I've stolen or looted but need to sell, and a 4th one for books that I've read and other nice things I've collected just because I can. Sometimes I'll steal books, read them, and then fence and repurchase them. Yeah, I'm a pack rat, but I've got a tonne of gold (10,000 + ) to support my habit.

As for the Oblivion vs Fallout thing... Well, from remembering my first impressions, Fallout 3 was a better game initially. It's far less overwhelming and much more thought out in all it's side options. Instead of being lost in a sea of choices, you only have a few clear paths which all cross over each other. It's much easier to come to terms with.

Now that I've gotten over the size of Oblivion though, I sure am enjoying it. It's challenging to stay focused, but the fact that you can keep 3-5 different goals working off each other at the same time, and can swap between them at will, is very cool indeed. But to get to that point is pretty hard. I think this is my 4th serious attempt to play the game, and it's the only time I haven't been overwhelmed in under 10 hours.

I think I would buy the PC version of Fallout if I was to go back to that though. It sounds like they have opened up the game and taken off the level cap in that verion and the 360 one. I don't really want to resurrect my 360 just for that game, and it's likely cheaper on the PC anyway. It's just annoying that the PS3 version is missing out on all this extra huge content. I can live without game hacking mods, but from what I've read Fallout can and does come to a pretty abrupt end if you just keep doing your thing, and looking at the perks, it seems to only really get good at the 16+ point. Capping at level 20 just seems bad to me.

2009-04-09 07:29:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

2009-04-09 13:40:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

I agree that Oblivion has much more to do but I think its held back by its interface. I know they're little things but after getting use to them in fallout you realise how good they were.

2009-04-09 14:26:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

Just hit level 27 and have maxed out blade and heavy armour. I'm nearly done the figthers guild and once I'm done that and a few other side quests and the main quest (nearly forgot about that) I'm going to start shivering isles
I just realized how much more I have to do. I love Oblivion. It's the best game ever.

That's crazy your capped already. I'm like 19 on my guy and his blade is prob only like in the 50's or something...Same with Marksman and prob light armor is around there too. Sneak on the other hand is really high lol. I'm a rogue type guy (I wear light armor and use a sword / shield and bow) And I play on medium difficulty. And I can't really stand toe to toe with guys worth a crap (I always like to think it's because I'm on medium) But they just hit me really hard, and I usually have to do tactics like elbee, like walk up hit them, let them miss repeat. Or kite them (aka run away backwards) shooting them with my bow. Or run away healing myself until I can fight them again.

IDK if this is maybe also caused to level up too fast w/o getting a proper blade / armor level. I get a lot of kills by sneaking or bows so the guys never get a chance to hit me (so I never increase light armor) and I tried to power level myself a lot by jumping and healing myself all the time. Which would make those inflated stats level me up and my main combat stats woudlnt scale with it. I'm not sure that could be it too but Medium is pretty difficult for me

2009-04-09 18:38:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

if your guy is physically weak, there's 2 things you could do to fix it.

1) join the dark brotherhood (murder someone) and get the bonus items for their quests. they give out some good strength items

2) become a vampire

2009-04-09 23:04:00

Author:
RickTheRipper

Posts: 345

I actually have all the Dark Brotherhood things up to the dead drops (thats where I put it on pause and went to do the thieves guild) And I am a vampire lol... I was just wondering about taking less damage I guess because I take an awful lot

2009-04-09 23:10:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

I always end up as a vampire since it makes thing much more interesting. However a high elf apprentice vampire cannot do any mages guild quests without a sack full of potions.

2009-04-09 23:15:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

You guys suck.

Seriously, I thought I was done with this game. I gave it another try along with a friend of mine, and now I'm re-hooked. I'm a male Khajiit thief with a full invisibility suit and the Grey Cowl of Nocturnal (I always do the thieves guild first with a thief character). I'm going through the Dark Brotherhood now to get my other skills up - my sneak's already at 100, as is my Athletics.

I've got a long time going before I get tired of this game again. Thanks for the addiction, guys.

2009-04-09 23:41:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman

Posts: 3729

tell me about it -_- i too am addicted once again... lol Archer all the way though, always am, always will be - i think it is something to do with he fact i did archery for 6-7 years (Longbow, proper ones, not the *** new kind of bows

)

2009-04-10 00:34:00

Author:
Unknown User

woo hoo! Archers rule! I really wish that Oblivion was available for online play. Can you imagine the epic games that would happen with just the players posting here!

2009-04-10 00:41:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

Man I wish I could get addicted to this game again.... but, alast, I did EVERY POSSIBLE THING I COULD POSSIBLY DO!!!!! There was simply nothing left. I ended up with every possible quest, every possible property, every possible add-on to the property, every possible weapon stacked in all the properties, an invincible horse that I could kill long enough to stuff things in to carry for me, so much strength that it took practically NOTHING to kill ANYTHING....

But I gotta say, it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Favorite thing I did in the level? The mystery mansion where YOU are the murderer!

Ah.... memories....

2009-04-10 00:48:00

Author:
CCubbage

Posts: 4430

That's kind of disappointing that, that is the best thing to do... /sigh

That is by far my favorite mission i've done (although I havn't done much at all thats why i was hoping for more) but i feared that might be the funnest mission in the game...I wish you could keep doing a mission like that. Or if they expanded on it more and did other houses or something lol

2009-04-10 00:49:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

It would be cool if for the figthers guild you got all the missions at the same place travelling between 3 cities is annoying
I just started the quest the collecter in the imperial city I sold a statue to a guy and stole it back straight away LOL. It's in my skingard house now.

I'm going to start the dadric shrine quests soon. Does anyone know what happens if you do shegoraths after finishing S.I?

2009-04-10 01:11:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

But I gotta say, it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Favorite thing I did in the level? The mystery mansion where YOU are the murderer!

Ah.... memories....

Yeah that was an excellent mission! I think having it as a once off made it that much more special. Ya know, always leave them wanting more

.

Not my favourite mission though. My favourite is the final Thieves Guild mission, the way everything you've done before leads up to that point gives an enormous feeling of satisfaction and shows how well made that line of missions was.

Some others I loved were the "Tears of..." someone or other. It had you transported to an ice world and you had to find jewels that were the tears of some hero. Can't remember the details but the mission was a breath of fresh air from the greens of Cyrodiil. And another very memorable one was the painter stuck in the painting one. That was an amazing quest.

I just started the quest the collecter in the imperial city I sold a statue to a guy and stole it back straight away LOL. It's in my skingard house now.

I was going to do that but couldn't stand seeing the red hand of shame every time I highlighted it. So I'm never going to sell them, I'll just display them in my house anytime I find one. I have so much loot and random weapons I have no idea what to do with it... I should really start selling it... the chest in my Waterfront house takes about 7 seconds to open

2009-04-10 01:13:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

Have you tried the expansions

I think you'll find the Shivering Isles most irritating if you haven't *muahahha*

2009-04-10 11:36:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

Shivering Isles is great =]

2009-04-10 15:05:00

Author:
Unknown User

2009-04-11 14:43:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

Really good spell for selling stuff: fortify mercentile 100 points for 1 second & fortify personality 100 points for 1 second.
Time pauses while your talking to someone so you can sell stuff for way more money with this spell you can also invest in shops.

Yeah, spell stacking like that can create tremendous effects. Like you have a fortify magic 50 to get enough to cast fortify magic 200 or something then you can get insane spells like fortify acrobatics 100.

2009-04-11 14:49:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

Have you tried the expansions

I think you'll find the Shivering Isles most irritating if you haven't *muahahha*
Oh yeah, Shivering Isles is amazing. The story and culture of the area are really fleshed out for a game.

....

I'm off to play.

2009-04-11 19:32:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman

Posts: 3729

I want elder scrolls V. NOW. How good will that be considering what they have done with this one?

2009-04-11 19:43:00

Author:
Unknown User

Oh yeah, Shivering Isles is amazing. The story and culture of the area are really fleshed out for a game.

....

I'm off to play.

Muhahahhaha :arg:

and @ ir0nmaid3nfan

YouTube - Trailer TES V

2009-04-11 19:49:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

An interesting fake video that one was. You could certainly see elements stolen from various films and documentories.

I use to be a stealth archer player, choosing the wood elf or Kajjit race, but with the low strength and hit points I'd be terrible at melee combat.

So that's why my current character is a Nord, and I've chosen skills that are harder to develop. If you level too quick and your stats are too low, then you will just get creamed. The Nord (or Redguard, or to a lesser extent Orc) races give you a high strength and endurance to start with. You can then take the theif birth sign to boost your stealth type stats.

I'm starting to be tempted to actually level again. It's getting boring seeing the same gear in the shops all the time, and I think I've gotten far too powerful for my current level. I'm level 11, but the majority of my skills and stats are all 50+. It's nice being strong, but the same gear drops get tiring.

2009-04-11 21:09:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

i got this for ps3 but i haven't played it for a while

sort of took a break from my ps3 and when i came back i'd completly forgot what i was doing, and i really can't be bothered to start again for the 4th time D:

2009-04-12 00:48:00

Author:
Dexiro

Posts: 2100

I'm level 32 now. Have maxed strength and endurance. Speed is 92. Intelligence is 85. Agility is somewhere between 70-80. Luck is 50. And personality is 30. I should have maxed everything except luck and personality by tommorow.

2009-04-12 09:54:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

I still have this game, and I LOVE it.

I haven't played it a while now, though...but thanks for reminding me! =D

2009-04-12 09:58:00

Author:
Stix489

Posts: 2080

still really need to get this game but their are so many others that i haven't beaten but all i want to do is play shivering isles

2009-04-12 16:26:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

VERY interesting tidbit from a recent (April 10) interview with Pete Hines:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3986/growing_your_long_tail_hines_on_.php?page=2

We're getting ready to do something else with Oblivion this year, because it is still selling and retailers still like it. If we weren't talking about that game, they'd only be focused on the [newer] things. But we stay on top it. I think that owes to our sales guys who stay on top of it and don't want to let it just die.

It's not, "Oh, it's two years old, it's not going to sell any more." That's not true. It will. If you pay attention to it and keep taking care of it, it's still got a home, it can still do something.

When you say you're thinking about doing something with Oblivion, what does that mean?

PH: Oh, I'll let you know. [laughter]

OH... MY... GOD!!! Though part of me is sorry that it's not a TESV announcement... :S And another part of my is very worried that it will be 360 exclusive...

2009-04-12 17:35:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

Meh, unless it's another shivering isles I'm not getting excited.

Hopefully they won't try and pull something like Frostcrag spire on us as an update which costs money.

2009-04-12 17:48:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

VERY interesting tidbit from a recent (April 10) interview with Pete Hines:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3986/growing_your_long_tail_hines_on_.php?page=2

OH... MY... GOD!!! Though part of me is sorry that it's not a TESV announcement... :S And another part of my is very worried that it will be 360 exclusive...

OMG
If this is a Xbox exclusive
I'm gonna
Option 1: buy an Xbox
Option 2: kill bill gates XD
Option 3: buy an Xbox, then kill bill gates

2009-04-12 19:18:00

Author:
Don Vhalt

Posts: 2270

I just got this for the PS3, disappointed with the loading times but otherwise its really good!

2009-04-15 00:54:00

Author:
Sage

Posts: 2068

That's weird I never thought the loading times were bad...

2009-04-15 20:34:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

You haven't had loading time until you play Bioshock on a struggling PC

6 mins was my record for Welcome to Rapture.

2009-04-16 12:28:00

Author:
Shermzor

Posts: 1330

The loading times on the PS3 are actually faster than the 360, as the PS3 version uses the hard drive a lot more and has a lot more stored in memory rather than on the disk. This might have changed though with the "install the game to read from the hard drive" thing the 360 can do now, though...

It's annoying how the PS3 only has the Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine stuff in terms of expansions. The PC has all the rest and all it's other custom mods, but the 360 you can buy all the officially launched stuff.

I'd like to see them just release the same stuff on both consoles. I sure am tired of custom expansion stuff for cross platform releases.

Back to how Oblivion is going for me... I'm level 15 officially how, probably about 25 I guess if I just levelled constantly. I'm over half way through the arena line and am currently questing in sunny Anvil.

2009-04-18 12:11:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

I plan to reinstall this very soon. The game is absolute sex.

2009-04-18 19:15:00

Author:
Foofles

Posts: 2278

I plan to actually play this game again sometime soon! I bought the game of the year edition for 30 dollars, and I've barely played it. I've just been too addicted to other games to get into it. Used to play it before on my 360, before selling it, then I realized I made a mistake and bought it for my PS3.

By the way, my 360 just got the red ring of death, just after I was convinced not to sell it. I'm ******.

2009-04-20 01:45:00

Author:
Echonian

Posts: 279

I brought the game again(goty) after reading this thread and now im addicted (again). im currently lvl 10 finished the mages guild and im the areas grand master. im a thief mage.

need some help with the alteration points
whats the fastest way to get them?

Dont think ill be finishing my thunderbird lvl anytime soon

2009-04-22 16:44:00

Author:
Ash_uk1

Posts: 255

Dont think ill be finishing my thunderbird lvl anytime soon

Alteration points? As in upgrade your alteration skill? Make a really cheap feather/burden spell (so it costs as little magicka as possible) on self and cast it over and over again. If on a console hold block to cast it quicker.

2009-04-22 17:33:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

To boost my magic stats I just cast low level spells from whatever discipline I wanted to boost over and over again while wandering from place to place. Goes pretty fast at the lower levels, once you get to the higher ones it takes a lot longer.

2009-04-22 17:45:00

Author:
Morgana25

Posts: 5983

thanks guys. found something really funny in one of the caves i just explored i unlocked a door that leads to a troll sitting in a barrel holding a bottle of beer then s*** myself when i took the beer bottle off him and he moved. kinda looks like he drunk em self to death

2009-04-22 20:51:00

Author:
Ash_uk1

Posts: 255

Well, I've come to the conclusion that the character I was playing was pretty much broken. While trying to do the main quest in Kvatch as a level 15 odd character, the sheer power of the monsters fought against by the squad would just overwhelm and then kill them. Then it would be up to me to face off against 3 spider demons and a bunch of other ridiculously powerful monsters.

The monsters were too strong for the allies, and when they were all dead, they would be far too strong for me. I could in theory leave the quest, level up a few hundred times, then come back to it. The only problem with that is that the demons would be even bigger again, and even if I was strong enough to take on 8 super demons at once, it kind of defeats the whole "working with the guards to take back a city" idea they are trying to do.

So... I made a new character. A very similar one, but this time a dark elf with the +50 magicka birth sign. I choose magic as the general specialty, even though I have 3 major skills from stealth. Off memory I think I have Armorer, Blade, Mercantile, Marksman, Destruction, Conjuration and Light Armor as the special abilities.

Alchemy is just such a dumb skill though. I had this skill over 75 when I was level 3. Just 2 loops of all the inns and alchemy shops in the Imperial city and Chorral got it that far. I sure am glad it's not a major skill or else I'd be too high a level while being terrible stats wise. I'm using alchemy to get cash while trying to avoid too many off-quest dungeon runs. I've already bought the house in Imperial City and am getting close to getting most of the spells I need. I'll soon be heading to Skingrad and then Kvatch for the main quest after I start the thieves guild quests, and hopefully I'll be a mere level 5 or 6 by then and the game won't be too broken.

2009-04-23 07:55:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

Ya, I'm scared my guy's game might be broken too. I always just thought medium was really really really hard. And i had to resort to tactics like shooting them with my bow while running away. He's like level 18 I think, I have marksman / blade / light armor / stealth and I don't remember what else. It just seems guys hit me really hard and most the time I don't do a lot of damage back.

I remember I had a really hard time in the shivering isles. When I had to defeat my shadow form he was really hard. And the jugalad was deafted by running backwards and pelting him w/ arrows for like 3 minutes.

2009-04-23 17:29:00

Author:
Hamsalad

Posts: 2551

Well, I've been reading the game guide I have for this game. It seems taking the castle for Kvatch is an optional side quest with very minor consequences if it is skipped or failed. Also considering how the main quest develops, this certainly won't be the first time that there is a planned 8 on 8 (or more) battle in the game.

Still though, I wonder how it would work out with higher levels. It seems you can get two "hero" characters for another large battle, both around level 16, but the rest are trash guards, I guess around level 5 or 6, maybe 8 or 10 at the highest. I just wonder though if the character themselves is level 15 or 20 or so, how they could possibly face off against multiple high level daedra. It's one thing to be having the trash guards facing monsters around their level, it's another thing entirely to being facing frost atronarch and spider daedra (or even worse). It would be a plain old slaughter, and once they are all dead, everything comes for you. It's not easy handling one or two monsters a few levels higher than you, or even 3 or 4 your own level, it's another thing entirely to face 6+ things a few levels higher than you. It just sounds like plain old suicide.

Anyway, my alternative character is slowly working through the first instance of oblivion and climbing up the main tower to close the gate. It's gotten as bad as clanfear runts, which are hard but not impossible to kill, and it might get as bad as flame atronarchs by the end of it all, or perhaps even 1 of those lizard daedra or clanfears at worst. I could imagine the guards going toe to toe with the likes of them.

It just seems really odd to me. As far as I can tell, the trash guards (as opposed to the captain hero units) don't level up with you. So the higher your level is, the worse the fighting would be. This all just seems counter-active to the "world levelling with you" idea that works for most of Oblivion.

As I keep alluding to though, alchemy sure is a dumb skill in that game though. In Morrowind you had a chance the potion would not work at all, so it was much harder to grind. Now that it works all the time, it's just so easy to level it. I'm sure if you were only aiming to make useful potions like restore health or magicka, fortifying key stats, poisioning health or magicka, silencing, reflecting damage... and avoided useless ones, such as restore fatigue or stats, detect life, night eye and so on, and also only worked off the ingredients that you got from chests or monsters and never bought ingredients from alchemists, inns or food shops, it would be a slow skill to work on.

But the combat skills, you need to be in combat. Spell casting levelling is (to a limited extent) limited by your mana reserves. You need to be in the right situation to develop things like sneak, security, speech craft and merchantile, and the ones that work all the time, like athletics and acrobatics to a lesser extent, take a long time to develop.

Alchemy though... buy every alchemy ingredient under 10g from every shop or inn in the imperial city, be content making restore fatigue potions... and you will likely go up 10-20 skill points from just that. Not only that, but you can then sell your potions back as well. Initially the return rate is terrible, 4g of ingrdients might get you 10g sold back, making a net of 6g profit (150%)... but by skill level 100 you are getting 40g from one 2g ingredient, a 2000% return. It's just plain dumb. I've made I think 15,000-20,000g pretty much only from alchemy, and I'm level 5 and have cleared out an impressive 2 twin level dungeons. The money made from alchemy alone is enough to buy a few houses in game.

It's just really broken and silly. Who needs to risk their life in dangerous dungeon crawls when the game gives you money like that? Never ever make alchemy a major skill, as you will level far too quick and be terribly defient in every other area of the game.

But getting back to the mass battle problem, I think I'll push through and try and clear out all way to the castle while I'm still a relatively low level, so the support cast does not get slaughtered. The next time a major battle occurs is quite latter on as far as I can tell. I'll likely have wandered off and worked on the guild quests by then.

One other thing I am doing is getting the maximum amount of paid training I can do in non-major skills each time I level. It's not the cheapest of things to do, but it allows me to burn up my alchemy gold and also develop skills and by their nature stats that are harder to develop. If you get, say +5 skill points in your non-primary weapon, then that's a free +5 to strength when you level. Not a bad thing to do if you ask me, and keeps your combat stats up quite easily.

2009-04-25 13:20:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

Love this game!!!!!

2009-04-27 21:56:00

Author:
smasher

Posts: 641

I have no idea if I want to keep this or not. I honestly thought I would get into it again, but I'm not much of an RPG person. Me playing the original Elder Scrolls 4 without the expansion on my 360...that probably caused me to get bored of it.

Its a quality game, just boring for me personally. I'll sell it, the PS3 GotY edition, if I can find any friends to buy it at least. Maybe I should start selling things online...hmmn.

2009-04-27 22:00:00

Author:
Echonian

Posts: 279

Just bought GOTY for 25 euro today! I've been putting it off for so long but I have to finish Shivering Isles before I can be truly content that I've finished the game... though I probably won't be... there are loads of misc quests I haven't done... hmmm... maybe I'll never finish it... what a pain in the ***!

EDIT: Oh and I'm delighted with my new Oblivion map for my room, complete with a map of the Shivering Isles... can't wait to play it!

2009-04-27 22:18:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

I get my level 12 sorcerer and, with his high Restoration stat, revive this thread!

So yeah, has anyone ever actually found any of the Elder Scrolls?

2009-05-17 16:33:00

Author:
qrtda235566

Posts: 3664

I get my level 12 sorcerer and, with his high Restoration stat, revive this thread!

So yeah, has anyone ever actually found any of the Elder Scrolls?
Elder Scroll:

You get one during one of the last Thieves' Guild missions. Excellent mission and the best quest line in the game IMO.

Other than that I'm not sure if there are any others available.

Can't wait to get home next Friday so I can get into Shivering Isles!

2009-05-17 18:09:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

still need to get this back lot has been going on lately and i have tried every opportunity i could to try and get my parents to take me. They always say the same thing, "You play too many videogames and your wasting your money NO!" really stinks only months left til the whole M game fiasco is over so let's go next December!

2009-05-17 19:06:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

Playing a good bit of Morrowind at the minute. It's really good though the only problem I have with it really is the speed of the character's movement and the fact that running decreases your fatigue. I've gotten used to the combat system and since enemies don't hit you all the time it works out... though I still feel that Oblivion's is better.

The lack of hand-holding makes you become more immersed in the world, like for one of the missions I had to find a puzzle box the size of a fist in a huge Dwemer cave/dungeon/mine. Anyway it took me ages to find it and I explored the entire place twice before I found the right room. Took me a few hours for that one short quest. It's just a completely different experience than Oblivion and I highly recommend checking it out. It does take a bit longer to get used to and there's a lot more reading involved though that means that the game is deeper and more immersive.

There definitely are flaws and things that will always annoy you. Like the converation system and how the list updates with new things that are mentioned but the things you've already talked about don't disappear... so you end up having to click on every one again if you want all the info to go into your journal. However the benefit of this is that all the info you've every read is easily available in your journal and it's all interlinked so if something is mentioned somewhere else there will be a link to the other point of interest. You come to rely on this when doing quests so it's a good idea to spend the time getting as much information as possible from each person you meet.

Well back to the game now. Going to do another quest and perhaps join one of the great houses. Telvanni probably as they supposedly like Bosmers... I'm getting pretty immersed in this

2009-05-18 19:27:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

I've kind of had a break from this game. I'm trying to get the game and all it's expansions for the PC (I was using the PS3 version) so I can see everything they have done with this game. It's getting hard to get all the expansions though and my local computer store is being a bit slow in getting it in.

I've considered exploring Morrowind again but I'm not sure where my old disc of it would be. I could get a new copy on E-bay but that would mean using something I am appreshensive about. :S

2009-05-26 13:14:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

Here's Morrowind on Play.com. It's Playtrade (ie. from a third-party seller) but it's completely safe. Free delivery and only 10 euro

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http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/2554115/Elder-Scrolls-III-Morrowind-Game-of-the-Year-Edition/Product.html?ptsl=1&ob=Price&fb=1

And here it is for $10 but that doesn't include P&P. Still shouldn't be more than $15.

Amazon.com: Used and New: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - Game of the Year Edition

As for Oblivion I'm not sure where exactly you buy the smaller expansion packs for PC, like the Wizard's Tower and Horse Armor and stuff. Maybe you can buy them and download them online?

You can find GOTY edition which includes Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles on both those site but it doesn't have the others. Curse Bethesda for no releasing the Orrery! I hate having a door that's in the game (and one you'll definitely come across) but you can never open!

Also: Does anyone know what the final point is that the random Oblivion Gates around Cyrodiil will remain open? Is it until you've completely finished the last portion of the Main Quest or is there an earlier point at which the smaller ones close?

2009-05-26 13:39:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

Sorry about the Double Post but no point starting a new thread.

Anyway just finished the Main Quest!!! It was actually very very good, more epic and rewarding than I was expecting. And the ending set-piece was excellent!

Now... FINALLY... on to Shivering Isles!!!

Just entered the gate. Is that a new voice actor!? Not sure... Anyway the first impression of the Fringe was that it gave off a very Morrowindish vibe, which was really cool! And the way the room dissolved made me smile! I'll update my blog later with a first impressions

2009-05-29 18:46:00

Author:
Burrich

Posts: 1018

getting GOTY version tomorrow!! So excited, but can't start Shivering Isles til i beat and am happy with my review for inFamous

2009-05-29 20:44:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny

Posts: 1246

I love Oblivion!

My friend and I play it a lot, i'm about level 20! I just love the freedom in a fantasy world, better that Fallout 3 IMO.

2009-05-29 20:51:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy

Posts: 445

Well, I finally got the Knights of the Nine disc. I haven't installed the game though as I'm enjoying "The World Ends with You" on the DS. Although it's a completely different system with a completely different mechanic, it's kind of filling my collect / explore everything need at the moment. :blush:

2009-05-30 11:06:00

Author:
Elbee23

Posts: 1280

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