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Greetings everyone!

With less and less activity, I would like to hear some thoughts about what I should do on this site in the future. ...like in Stranger Things... do we stay or do we go?

Not that I mind terribly, but I do pay for this out of my own pocket and if there is no real need for the site, I would close it down... although a horribly sad decision.

So I would like some thoughts and a few questions.

Are other sites active? ..if so, which ones?

Thanks!!
jwwPhotos
2016-10-10 21:08:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


What can I say bro, I totally understand your position. The LBP online community just isn't there anymore, I really don't know what happened, because it wasn't only due to the LBPC blackout of nearly half a year, other sites are drying out as well. Probably the one with a decent activity atm is LBN... Even with the Community Council going on I see so few posts and levels posted here in comparison with a year or two ago that it is depressing. LBF is somewhat active, too, but not that much.

You know, I love this site, it is the greatest, friendliest family that I've ever been a part of. In my own selfish point of view I'd love for it to stay and even though I'd love to continue doing the Community Spotlight things and whatnot, no one else is active and I just haven't got the time I used to have to dedicate to stuff like that. I'd be very interested to see other replies and thoughts as well.

With over 6 years belonging to this particular community, this place was the one I had the most fun with for a very long time, but it is just not the same without everyone who made this place what it was. I'd love to see it being back to what it was, I don't really know if there's a way to do it, though. Most of the LBP Japan community is gone, too. Sad, sad story. LBPK servers are down. No LBP4 in the future I assume. I don't think it is a dead game per se but this community will only re-emerge with Dreams, I'm assuming.
2016-10-11 02:26:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


I mean, I'm still logging in almsot daily over EIGHT years later, and even though I cringe at my memories of my 15 year old self here this is a big part of me and I never found anywhere to replace my memories. But I never cared too much for LBP myself and I struggle to care now and less and less people care about it, so... I mean, it'd be silly for you to keep paying so much money just so essentially two or three people can do a bunch of forum games over and over... And memories are about all I have of this place by now... And I would love for a replication of what this was, perhaps with a family friendly style more general forum, but I know I can't possibly replicate old LBPC like that so uh yeah I jsut got random thoughts and not much else TBQH2016-10-11 05:53:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Omg! Losing lbpc ... something inside me refuses to even consider this as a possibility!
But you're right, the activity in the forums is only few. Though there must be still a lot of players, otherwise MM-picked levels wouldn't get about 10000 plays.
Some thoughts from me...
...what can our forum offer to the members or guests? LBF has its music section, lbpplanetarium had the tutorials of comphermc, but what can we offer to the members?
...there are lots of players outside, who try to create levels but simply don't have enough skills to do a reasonable level. So they can't get positive feedback which decreases the motivation for level building! Why not teach them how to do a reasonable level? What about some kind of lbp academy as an offer? For beginners or not yet advanced creators!
...reducing the amount of subforums! I think that we could reform the forum structure and reduce the subforums to a reasonable amount. To me I see no need in a splitting between LBP1, LBP2 and LBP3 anymore! I even would integrate karting and vita in an overall category!
The German subforum isn't necessary anymore! In the time when lbpc has been down for so long most of the German creators have joined lbp-hub.com and have found their place there.
...events! lbp music events, lbp picture exhibitions, painting events, background workshops, costume events etc.
events could keep a forum vivid and interesting for members and guests

These are some thoughts, I have no idea whether they could change anything, but maybe we should try some things to rescue our forum!

Many greetings, Jürgen^^
2016-10-11 09:58:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


I can remember, long time ago, there were so many new posts, that I didn't had time to read all of them...
Meanwhile I click on "New posts" and there are just these forum games... nothing interesting there...
I am in this forum for over 5 years and yes, it's sad, but LBP(C) is dying...
But deleting over 1000000 posts? Deleting the history of LittleBigPlanet? No No No...

@jwwphotos:
When it's about the money, I could host lbpcentral on the lbp-hub.com server, there is enough space and power left and 1€ every month for the domain should not be the problem...
2016-10-11 13:33:00

Author:
Hanfi1311
Posts: 776


Omg! Losing lbpc ... something inside me refuses to even consider this as a possibility!
But you're right, the activity in the forums is only few. Though there must be still a lot of players, otherwise MM-picked levels wouldn't get about 10000 plays.
Some thoughts from me...
...what can our forum offer to the members or guests? LBF has its music section, lbpplanetarium had the tutorials of comphermc, but what can we offer to the members?
...there are lots of players outside, who try to create levels but simply don't have enough skills to do a reasonable level. So they can't get positive feedback which decreases the motivation for level building! Why not teach them how to do a reasonable level? What about some kind of lbp academy as an offer? For beginners or not yet advanced creators!
...reducing the amount of subforums! I think that we could reform the forum structure and reduce the subforums to a reasonable amount. To me I see no need in a splitting between LBP1, LBP2 and LBP3 anymore! I even would integrate karting and vita in an overall category!
The German subforum isn't necessary anymore! In the time when lbpc has been down for so long most of the German creators have joined lbp-hub.com and have found their place there.
...events! lbp music events, lbp picture exhibitions, painting events, background workshops, costume events etc.
events could keep a forum vivid and interesting for members and guests

These are some thoughts, I have no idea whether they could change anything, but maybe we should try some things to rescue our forum!

Many greetings, Jürgen^^

I'd really be down to create activities, events and contests on the site once again, but we'd need ideas, to gather a crew once again (maybe some folks of the original crew would be down to help?) and see how (if?) people would react to them once again... I'm just not entirely sure whether people are still willing to visit forums as much; my theory is that forums were super necessary back in the day for anyone to even notice your levels, back when there was no Level of the Day or Recommended Levels, you could only get known and show your stuff by becoming active in these sites and whatnot.

It would also be nice if we could host another Crown Competition, maybe one 'last one' could be very emotional lol
2016-10-11 13:41:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


Well, you know how I feel about this site. This site and LBN have been a HUGE part of my LBP "career" and I'd hate to lose it. I understand where you're coming from and it's like, What's the point of carrying it on if no one is here. Like Rock(rawk), I log in daily to see what's up, probably mostly out of a force of habit. I love LBPC and all the friends I have made here. I don't know jdubbs. I just don't know.
What about a rebranding? Maybe gear it more towards Dreams? Are you interested in Dreams? I'm still on the fence about it myself, though from what I've seen it looks phenomenal.
I don't know man, I hate to see it go away and would love to have a back up or library of the site. I have a lot of memories here and often find myself going back to old posts and threads for old time's sake and chuckling at the banter and conversations I've had over these many years.
2016-10-11 17:34:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


But my reputation points! D:


Jokes aside. It's your money Jww.

I will say this place was a big part of my life in high school. There are certainly a lot of memories here and of LBP. There are lots of people I met that unfortunately I haven't spoken to in years.
I don't think I'll forget events like becoming an admin (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=71995-Administration-Transition)/mod, working on the LBPC group photo (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=37732-LBPC-Group-Picture-Complete!), seeing new creator spotlights (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?100-Creator-Spotlight-Archive/page2) (the videos were hilarious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDjf9EX1vO4)!), reading about surprise game jams (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=28709-Community-Game-Jam-2010) (and being overly jealous), seeing the first version of lbp.me (https://web.archive.org/web/20110831182509/http://lbp.me/) and participating in the LBP2 beta (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=40507-LBP2-Beta-Shere-your-epic-pictures-thread) (not all links are broken), seeing LBPC get hacked for the umpteenth time (before Jww was admin of course), using the LBP Wiki (https://web.archive.org/web/20120924065734/http://wiki.lbpcentral.com/LBPWiki_Main) (it was professionally done when it was around), participating (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=16213-Spaff-Appreciation-Day-Sept-12th) in S (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=35162-Spaff-Appreciation-Day-2010)paff Days (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=63233-Spaff-Appreciation-Day-2011) (now Spaff works at Double Fine and is helping with Psychonauts 2!), going crazy (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=28320-Layer-Glitch-Weapon-quot-3D-quot) with (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=23582-The-Twilight-Background-(Tutorial-Styled-Background)) the (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=23615-The-Beach-Background-(New-Version)) community (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=27958-The-Desolation-Background) and the layer glitch (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=18254-Layer-Glitch-FAQ-Get-the-most-out-of-your-custom-backgrounds-foregrounds), cheering on the art geniuses like NInjaFerret22 (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=34038-Art-of-the-Ninjaferret-3-_Updated-Regularly_-REQUESTS-CLOSED-I-MAKE-SHIRTS-NOW) and TheZimInvader (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=26098-Sackboy-Art-Request-and-Critique-Thread-REQUESTS-CLOSED), discovering the mysteries of LBP (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=17027-Unnoticed-Things-In-LBP), the LBP1 gravity glitch (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=16733-Gravity-Manipulation), accidentally texting Confused Cartman instead of a friend on the irony that I was going to be admin of LBPC, yet not have the in-game LBP pin for running a website (it was embarassing, but CC kindly got one for me (http://lbp.me/u/warlord_evil/pins)), finding glitches that to this day have not been solved (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=42244-u-get-gloves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), attempting to make a Minecraft texture pack that's LBP themed (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=41756-Minecraft-LBP-Texture-Pack), finding that some players had secret powers...and that they were the ThecX-Men (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=29506-Theck-Layer-Beware!) (only some players could move through or be effected by a glitched layer size, for example, if gas was a theck layer, it would only kill the ThecX-Men players), making fan-art (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=45397-LittleBigPlanet-Backgrounds), making my first Mm Picked level (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=64886-WIP-FPS-Sword) (pretty sure the level doesn't work properly now though, an update broke some things), I tried to make a timeline of LBP history (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=68942-LittleBigTimeline) and didn't do well, using my amazing detective work (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=71907-Next-Mm-Game) to figure out what Mm was working on, creating another weird archive of LBP history and art (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=40132-LBP-Retro) (I was obsessed with LBP alpha stuff for some reason), and trying to figure out who knows what ranch dressing (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=82468-Ranch-Dressing) is.

Also, there's pictures of LBPC in its older days. (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=61411-Old-LBPC)

If this website won't be around, I would encourage people to find their favorite threads/links and submit them to the web archive (https://archive.org/web/web.php). Just find your thread, then paste it into the web archive, if it doesn't find it, ask it to archive the page.

This place may not be around...but we'll all be around, somewhere. If anyone wants to find me, I'm on Steam under the alias "Warzard" and I have the blue-tinted astronaut avatar.
2016-10-11 20:25:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Hello,
I want to leave a short comment about this.

I log in here for at least one time per day. I am here since 2013. I have to say, that I really enjoyed the events here and there. I loved the activity of the members.

I can say 'This is dead' the whole time. But at the same time I could post some stuff. Maybe I am working on a level. So I could post it. And if I am uncreative, I could speak about it. Get ideas and whatelse. It's our job. We can't tell others to do it for us. WE have to make it. We have to do stuff. If everyone works together and gives this site a little bit of activity, we could make this to the LBP central again. Making it great.

Paying money for nothing isn't the best thing to do. Hanfi said it. You could split the costs and sth. (BTW really cool idea Hanfi).

Shortly said: Don't tell others do make sth. YOU have to do it (Sounds unlogical). Keep it alive and post some stuff. Create some events and interact with the members. I am not having more ideas now and my english is kinda bad, because I am tired.

I will think about it and get some ideas. Also I will do my job and post sth. when I have ideas. Thank you for the nice time!
2016-10-11 21:46:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


This was the first fan site I joined, first community meet-up, I'd be sad to see it go. But change happens and it has to. I come by every day, used to always stay for longer and lately it's more that I'm just checking in
I would prefer to see evolution over extinction if possible
2016-10-12 01:16:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838


Okay now warlord's post officially becomes the most heartwarming, elaboarte and nostalgic post I've ever read.2016-10-12 05:35:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


This is the only LittleBigPlanet site I ever joined. I've known it's existence for years, but I never really took the time to check it out. (...Until of now, of course.) I'm someone who creates often in my free time, but never musts up the courage to publish. It's not often I get motivated into creating, either. So I personally would love to see a lot more Lbpc-themed contests, whether it be a costume contest, or a creator contest, to encourage people to create more often. It wouldn't hurt to see more advertising, either.
Now, a contest doesn't necessarily require a reward, in fact, isn't winning and/or participating a reward within itself?

I hope This helps!
-Sir monacle
2016-10-12 10:27:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Yeah, the contests were great. The EyeCandy contests and many more. Great!

We have to make plans for some contests. Let's plan.
2016-10-12 10:57:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


LOL, Warlord's post reminded me of one of my favorite threads of all dang time! ATGNAT and the Glass Orb (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=21058-ATGNAT-Glass-orb-WTF).
Ha! Also reminded me of an old post I made. The "Unofficial" LBPC4 FAQ (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=62720-LBPC-Contest-4-Sackscience!&p=920986&viewfull=1#post920986). I made this FAQ because the contest crew were being inundated with some of the most idiotic questions.
2016-10-12 14:50:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


Thanks everyone for the insight! Leaves me with much to think about. 2016-10-13 00:48:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Man, I really don't want this site to go, it honestly saddens me greatly thinking about it.

I'm all for revamping the site though. Maybe even get the spotlight gang back together and start making spotlights again? Of course, sadly, there aren't very many of us crew members left that are active enough to help. Maybe recruit some new members, that would be fun..? Then again, we need to get people to actually post levels to get us to play.

I think a really fun contest (With an amazing prize), that we would heavily advertise (twitter, other fan-sites, friends, PS4 Community, etc.) could bring in some new members. Then greatly encourage the new members to post and advertise their levels into the level showcase. That could possibly get some wheels turning.

Also, as bio has said, maybe try to create a portion of the site that's dedicated to Dreams? That could possibly bring in a few people as well, closer to the games release that is.

Anyways, this is my LBP home and I truly hope that this site can be great again.
2016-10-13 08:12:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


For a long, long time now, LBPC seems to have existed in a bubble, somehow floating far away from the LBP community it used to be at the centre of. This used to be the only LBP site worth joining and now, well, there's not really anything to join for.

There hasn't been a new level spotlight since new year's day. It wasn't even named correctly. Remember when they were every couple of weeks? Did they stop because people stopped making and posting levels? No. Did they stop because the people who devoted huge chunks of their time to producing those spotlights became disheartened whenever the site was offline for months at a time? That seems more likely...

At the risk of sounding like an ******* for advertising my own site, look at it this way. We (sackinima) are one of the smallest LBP forums around, because we started so much later than everyone else. We still manage to publish level showcases every month. Sometimes they only feature a couple of levels, sometimes they feature 5 or 10. The point is if we can still do it, so can you. You just choose not to. And I guess that's my response to "are other sites active?". Right now we're the host forum of the latest LBP survivor contest. You have to ask why anyone would choose us over the giant that is LBPC...maybe because we're actually active.

And the LBP community as a whole is still as active as it's ever been. I still see hundreds of LBP screenshots and discussions on twitter every day, there's more active LBP youtubers now than there's ever been. Everyone's doing their own thing too but whenever someone publishes a proper good level or some new DLC comes out the community is all over it. We still look forward to every new game update as much as us LBPC oldies looked forward to cornish yarg. But none of that happens here any more. Not because people got bored of LBPC, but seemingly because LBPC got bored of itself. I personally still lurk here almost every day just waiting for something to happen outside of Forum Games.

My advice to jww, if you can't afford to keep the site online then find someone who can. If you don't have the time or the interest in the LBP community to keep running the place then find someone who does. You know how the admin-swapping thing works. If you do want to stay at the helm and steer this ship back in the right direction, then get yourself involved in the community again. Get the spotlights going, get some contests running. Do some tidying up and get yourself ready for Dreams. Prove me and everyone else who complains about this site wrong and show us that LBPC can be the home of our community again.

But if you do pull the plug, thanks for keeping it going as long as you did. I met a lot of great people on this site and as ridiculous as it sounds the last 8 years of my life would have been very different if it wasn't for LBPCentral.

Peace and good luck with whatever decision you make, jww <3
2016-10-13 16:18:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


For a long, long time now, LBPC seems to have existed in a bubble, somehow floating far away from the LBP community it used to be at the centre of. This used to be the only LBP site worth joining and now, well, there's not really anything to join for.

There hasn't been a new level spotlight since new year's day. It wasn't even named correctly. Remember when they were every couple of weeks? Did they stop because people stopped making and posting levels? No. Did they stop because the people who devoted huge chunks of their time to producing those spotlights became disheartened whenever the site was offline for months at a time? That seems more likely...

No, not at all.


At the risk of sounding like an ******* for advertising my own site, look at it this way. We (sackinima) are one of the smallest LBP forums around, because we started so much later than everyone else. We still manage to publish level showcases every month. Sometimes they only feature a couple of levels, sometimes they feature 5 or 10. The point is if we can still do it, so can you. You just choose not to. And I guess that's my response to "are other sites active?". Right now we're the host forum of the latest LBP survivor contest. You have to ask why anyone would choose us over the giant that is LBPC...maybe because we're actually active.

You make it sound as if there are hundreds of levels still being published and posted every day. That is definitely not the case. I'm also on the LBN Picks team and we don't pick levels there anymore either because there are no levels to pick. I might only play LBP once a month, but I am on LBP.me and the forums every single day, ever in search of good levels to queue. I have literally spent two hours on LBP.me looking at new levels and when you can go 100 pages deep and only pull out two worthwhile levels, that's not too good. I've gone 50 pages deep in trending levels and it's the same thing. Either the level is MMpicked or is FNAF stuff. :/ Hard to find levels worth spotlighting when they are so hard to find. Sackinima had 3 levels posted within a one month span. LBPC had two or 3 and LBN had 2. So don't tell me that the activity is there when I can look at numbers and see otherwise.



And the LBP community as a whole is still as active as it's ever been.
what are you smoking man? You can't be serious. "as active as it's ever been." This site used to have thousands log in every day. I'm the only one here currently. I used to not be able to keep up with all the new post because so many were being made every day. Now, maybe 10 post (all in forum games it seems) are made. And it's the same with your site AND LBN. Heck, look at Planetarium. I'm the only one who post there. Activity is certainly not what it used to be.


I still see hundreds of LBP screenshots and discussions on twitter every day, there's more active LBP youtubers now than there's ever been.

Dude, please seek help. I urge you. Seriously, there is a great program right down the street from me, I'll get you their number. You are either mad with fever, delirious or high on K2. I run the r/LBPlevels over on Reddit. I used ITTT program that automatically pulls the LBP.me of levels posted on Twitter, and post them on my r/LBPlevels. yeah, go over there and see how many levels are posted each day via Twitter.


Everyone's doing their own thing too but whenever someone publishes a proper good level or some new DLC comes out the community is all over it. We still look forward to every new game update as much as us LBPC oldies looked forward to cornish yarg. But none of that happens here any more. Not because people got bored of LBPC, but seemingly because LBPC got bored of itself. I personally still lurk here almost every day just waiting for something to happen outside of Forum Games.

My advice to jww, if you can't afford to keep the site online then find someone who can. If you don't have the time or the interest in the LBP community to keep running the place then find someone who does. You know how the admin-swapping thing works. If you do want to stay at the helm and steer this ship back in the right direction, then get yourself involved in the community again. Get the spotlights going, get some contests running. Do some tidying up and get yourself ready for Dreams. Prove me and everyone else who complains about this site wrong and show us that LBPC can be the home of our community again.

But if you do pull the plug, thanks for keeping it going as long as you did. I met a lot of great people on this site and as ridiculous as it sounds the last 8 years of my life would have been very different if it wasn't for LBPCentral.

Peace and good luck with whatever decision you make, jww

I agree, something needs to be done. Contest or something, but we need to strum up activity somehow. LBP is not dead yet and I really don't see it dying anytime soon. But we do need to boost activity. But don't blow smoke up my *** and say that LBP is as active as it ever was and there is all this activity over at your site when I know for a fact that that just isn't true. I check ALL sites daily and they are all the same, with maybe (on a good day with the wind blowing in the right direction) about +/- 10 post being made, except Planetarium which actually IS dead.
2016-10-13 17:17:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


Well, biorogue was a bit drastic in his reponse but he is mostly right, we never stopped doing the Spotlights because of the loss of interest, but rather all the new functionalities such as Recommended Levels and Level of the Day made it so easy for people to find good stuff to play that it kind of lost its purpose. The site being down for so long didn't help either I guess.

The community is most definitely not as active as in its best time, not by a long shot. However, I will agree with both of you in that it is not dead nor will it be in the foreseeable future. I am down and ready to return and do the Spotlights if anyone else from the crew (fireblitz already said he is in) joins, or maybe we should recruit new people. Now again, would anyone show up? And how feasible will it be to do them with the Level of the Day, etc. functions and a reduction of quality levels in general? I mostly did them for fun but I'm not so sure whether that would be enough to attract people back to the forum.

Also, the management of this site is a hassle. I know that much, it's not that jww's only concerns are money, but rather how messy the things work with the way the site is set up. I remember that every admin has complained about the way CC originally set this thing up, being outdated in comparison with other forum's software and whatnot.

In conclusion, I want to make one last shot at bringing the site back up. That depends on Jww's decision that I'd completely respect, and on the community's response to it, and on if anyone else signs up to do it. I mostly did all of this for fun anyway (as I'm sure most of you guys have as well) so what can we really lose right?
2016-10-13 17:52:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


I agree with biorogue, but also with ARD.

How I even said, we can't wait for stuff, we have to do it by our own. If no one posts a level idea or sth, than post sth if you have anything. It is the same thing with LBP Vita. 20-40 levels per day. I play a few of them and I still find some cool ideas. In LBP3 it is different. There are more levels. What we need is a bigger team. One alone can't search in houndreds of levels. But 5-10 guys can do this way better.

Many guys were 12-18, when they joined here ages ago. Now they have a job, some serious rl problems. LBP isn't their main thing now.

I am 17. I do have some problems and rl stuff to do, but I always check these sites. And I still post stuff.

We need:
- A bigger spotlight team
- More posts in the normal categories
- Contests
- New users
- A building school for newbies (Suggested by CuriousSack)

I think these are some points to discuss about.
2016-10-13 17:52:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


- A building school for newbies (Suggested by CuriousSack)

A building school sounds interesting. We may get a few beginning creators who need experience. I also think some mini contest/challenges would add a friendly competitive vibe, the prizes don't have to be extravagant. Just bragging rights.
2016-10-13 18:46:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


In LBP3 it is different. There are more levels. What we need is a bigger team. One alone can't search in houndreds of levels. But 5-10 guys can do this way better.



Would it interest you to know that there are still 24 people tied to the spotlight crew here? The problem has never been a lack of dedication on their part; but merely a result of the game's declining community. When LBP3 launched it did so with quite a few bugs ranging from laughable to game breaking. I for one still cannot play multiplayer without crippling lag and anything made in creative mode fails to publish. My closest friends all experienced similar issues and left LBP behind; giving me little incentive to play or share.

I continue to log into LBPCentral daily because the community here is awesome and our regulars can always be counted on for some solid game-related advice. To this end I will refrain from voicing my opinion on whether the site should close, I would be biased anyway, but know that if anyone wants to remain friends outwith I am always open to PSN friend requests... but please add a message so I know you're from the site or it will likely get deleted.
2016-10-13 18:55:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


I mean, I'm still logging in almsot daily over EIGHT years later, and even though I cringe at my memories of my 15 year old self here this is a big part of me and I never found anywhere to replace my memories. But I never cared too much for LBP myself and I struggle to care now and less and less people care about it, so... I mean, it'd be silly for you to keep paying so much money just so essentially two or three people can do a bunch of forum games over and over... And memories are about all I have of this place by now... And I would love for a replication of what this was, perhaps with a family friendly style more general forum, but I know I can't possibly replicate old LBPC like that so uh yeah I jsut got random thoughts and not much else TBQH

I kinda cringe at the thought of a 15 year old you too.




My advice to jww, if you can't afford to keep the site online then find someone who can. If you don't have the time or the interest in the LBP community to keep running the place then find someone who does. You know how the admin-swapping thing works. If you do want to stay at the helm and steer this ship back in the right direction, then get yourself involved in the community again. Get the spotlights going, get some contests running. Do some tidying up and get yourself ready for Dreams. Prove me and everyone else who complains about this site wrong and show us that LBPC can be the home of our community again.

I never said I couldn't afford it... lol That is freakin' hysterical!!! I do quite well for myself.

However I did ask for opinions and thanks for yours. I only mentioned I was paying for it so I would get some serious attention. All I meant was if no one was really using the site, then perhaps it was time to turn off the lights.

Still "Ard"acious as ever... lol
2016-10-14 00:56:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Jdubbs, I would love for the site to stay, if nothing but for a reference or an archive of sorts. There are still tons of tutorials here that are of great use. Heck, I check them from time to time to remember how to do stuff or to learn how to do something. And then there are all those wonderful, wonderful spotlights. I still check back in those archives to replay great levels. It's easier looking through there than my hearted list. Please keep the site going.2016-10-14 03:03:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


Jdubbs, I would love for the site to stay, if nothing but for a reference or an archive of sorts. There are still tons of tutorials here that are of great use. Heck, I check them from time to time to remember how to do stuff or to learn how to do something. And then there are all those wonderful, wonderful spotlights. I still check back in those archives to replay great levels. It's easier looking through there than my hearted list. Please keep the site going.

I hear you my friend. That is where I am at too. I think I have some great feedback and I will see what I can do to move forward in some direction. I'm a bit on the fence about Dreams, that is if it ever comes out in my lifetime, but I agree we have a ton of info here. Problem is to port the info into anything else would be a challenge. One that might be easier just to upgrade and move off the VPS to something a bit more efficient. Then again.. we have a ton of stuff here and that uses up quite a bit of space.

Thanks again to you and everyone for some wonderful feedback. Bless you all. Even Ard.
2016-10-14 11:31:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Don't shut it down man! This site's amazing, it's one of the few sites still keeping LBP, and the "Play, Create, and Share" genre alive. We love what you guys do for us, keeping this site going even after all this years. What I'd do is wait for Dreams to come out, then you can add in an entire subform for LBP and Dreams. This would be a great way for LBP vets like us to communicate with newbie "Play,Create, and Share" players from Dreams. I get the feeling if MM doesn't announce Dream's release 2017, then it has to be 2018. Dreams will also be out everywhere, even in Japan, so Japanese LBP players will come back here once Dreams is announced and a subform for Dreams is on this site

EDIT: Actually, I seriously think Dreams is headed for a 2018 - 2019 release, so we only have to wait 1 more year from 2017 for Dreams to get kicking, or at least start showing itself

- - - - - - - - - -


I mean, I'm still logging in almsot daily over EIGHT years later, and even though I cringe at my memories of my 15 year old self here this is a big part of me and I never found anywhere to replace my memories. But I never cared too much for LBP myself and I struggle to care now and less and less people care about it, so... I mean, it'd be silly for you to keep paying so much money just so essentially two or three people can do a bunch of forum games over and over... And memories are about all I have of this place by now... And I would love for a replication of what this was, perhaps with a family friendly style more general forum, but I know I can't possibly replicate old LBPC like that so uh yeah I jsut got random thoughts and not much else TBQH

Haha! About the forum games, yeah that does include me LOL.


EDIT: Anyways, so I looked around at all the posts here and everyone had great points. I'd really love for this site to go on, but if it has to end, it has to end. There seems to be no sign of Dreams any time in the near future at least, and LBP is falling faster than ever(with the community declining at this rate), when you feel you have to shut it down, ya gotta shut it down. We've had so many great memories here, on other LBP sites, and LBP as a whole, but the community is falling into a deep pit, and the only thing that'll save it now is Dreams.

I feel like if you keep the site up, adding a Dreams sub-form is something you should do right away. That way people can talk about their ideas for Dreams before it's release announcement, giving MM plenty of time to create a new, fresh experience, while still listening to input from old fans.
2016-10-15 02:11:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Part of the problem of figuring out the future of the site is that we don't know the future of the franchise. We can guess that if there is a fourth mainline entry that it will be a year away minimum based on the previous releases and that there is enough value left in the series to still be producing some DLC at this point but at the same time we lost a lot recently with servers being shut down.

I don't think we'll be seeing more spin offs with the Vita being near dead and karting having failed so hard.

There is the hope that a game could go on PS+ ideally at this point the PS4 version of LBP3 for the most attention, PS3 the next best option and Vita as the consolation prize that wouldn't give us much extra.
2016-10-15 12:43:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Part of the problem of figuring out the future of the site is that we don't know the future of the franchise. We can guess that if there is a fourth mainline entry that it will be a year away minimum based on the previous releases and that there is enough value left in the series to still be producing some DLC at this point but at the same time we lost a lot recently with servers being shut down.

I don't think we'll be seeing more spin offs with the Vita being near dead and karting having failed so hard.

There is the hope that a game could go on PS+ ideally at this point the PS4 version of LBP3 for the most attention, PS3 the next best option and Vita as the consolation prize that wouldn't give us much extra.

Exactly my thoughts... well, almost exactly. lol

Once I get my living room put back together I am going to start looking at how many are even online on both PS3 and PS4. Something I know that Sony is watching also.

Thanks!!
2016-10-15 15:58:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


- A building school for newbies (Suggested by CuriousSack)

Honestly, I've been playing the LittleBigPlanet series for years now, and I still think I suck.
I would love to see a sub-forum where people can discuss how to do this and shove your cat up chimney, and all that other good stuff, as well as some newer, more relevant sub-forums as well.

...It's sort-of funny, actually, I originally joined to showcase some levels that I planned on creating, but I haven't showcased a single level since I've joined.
2016-10-17 15:19:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Out of everyone who plays the game actively there's a very tiny percentage of people who visits these forums. Heck, many still don't know about their existence. I think the effects from the downtime of LBPC is starting to show. Before all this I was exclusively a LBPC user but then I converted to LBN after waiting a long time, I simply gave up waiting for it's return but I still needed a replacement. Then I got attached to LBN and I'm sure many other also did - and so more interesting topics was being written there which attracted even more people. It's a chain reaction.

And a chain reaction of activity is very doable here, we just need effort from forum users to set it in motion.
2016-10-17 17:45:00

Author:
blacksackman
Posts: 234


You guys are absolutely right, and this is why LBP series needs and LBP4 or Dreams as soon as possible:

I don't want this post to sound offensive in any way to the LBP franchise, and even as MASTERFUL and amazing as LBP3 wa , it's lasting value was a flump. LBP2 lasted for a good 3-4 years, and LBP1 even longer, but LBP3 only managed to last 1-2 years(some fans including me left it even before due to the initial glitches). The problem with LBP3 wasn't the existence of the glitches, but the fact that the glitches made the game "unplayable". Online was so glitchy that it was a popular meme back then that you were always "alone" in lbp3. This also hurt fans of the multiplayer from lbp2 and lbp1, and the only fans left were dedicated creators. With no new content from the devs(only DLC costumes, no new logic/tools added in updates like on lbp2 and 1), the franchise became stale very quickly, with it only lasting months before fans(myself included) became bored and left. The lbp franchise NEEDS new innovations to keep it alive. We all love lbp(many of us have been with this franchise for years, with me having around 6 years), and it's sad to see it die like this. But it's inevitable that lbp will need something GROUNDBREAKING to keep it from further, more "accelerated" decline . Either way, Sumo-Digital did a fantastic job for LBP, and we really need to thank them for giving us a short-lived, but still satisfying experience(when lbp was initially announced, it was amazing how so many fans were able to come back from the series, even if they've all left again ) Thank you so much Sumo!
2016-10-18 01:53:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I've said it before, but I feel what also really hurt LB3 was it being on PS3 and PS4, but not able to play with each other, thus dividing the community. Then on top of that, the connectivity issues causing even like system players to not join each other. To me this was the whole amazing part of LBP1 and LBP2. We played together...2016-10-18 02:32:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Hey guys, you probably don't know me but I got on this site again because of a birthday email.
Yeah uh, wanted to play lbp3 again someday, just because of all the good memories I have with this series (rn playing competitive smash). Ya know, lbp is part of my child hood and it's really sad for me to see the com fall apart. I asked my friends who played lbp1 and 2 back with me then why they don't buy lbp3. One of them answered that the lbp series lost their soul with the third part. And I somehow agree, it was just dumb sony I think who pressured the developers to release it unfinished and buggy. I think lbp lost a part of the com at that point. Even tho patches made it a good game, a game doesn't get hyped a year or a half year later as much as when it releases. Besides that, I think the game community has changed to a point where you play most of the games quickly or rush them down (economical reasons). Lbp, as a series which needs remaining players, has it a bit harder because of that.
I just hope that the lbp series will get a good 4th part with a new wave of players and some veterans.
2016-10-18 18:49:00

Author:
Zukarou
Posts: 1


Yeah, that would be good.

It needs something, which is remarkable.
2016-10-20 17:38:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


It's hard to find the right words

First of all Thanks a lot, that You still care about this forum and us!

This was a meeting point for the creme de la creme of creativity.
So many years it was one of the sites I openend every day! I even begged our system administrator at work to do a workaround for this site to come through the surf control

But now it's the calm before the storm and we all are waiting for the next platform to bring our creativity to life, LBP4 or Dreams, who knows. And it would be nice to keep this well known meeting point.

I like the other forums too, and I don't want to miss a single one! Sorry this sounds selfish ..... but You asked
2016-10-24 14:49:00

Author:
Schnupsi
Posts: 506


It's hard to find the right words

First of all Thanks a lot, that You still care about this forum and us!

This was a meeting point for the creme de la creme of creativity.
So many years it was one of the sites I openend every day! I even begged our system administrator at work to do a workaround for this site to come through the surf control

But now it's the calm before the storm and we all are waiting for the next platform to bring our creativity to life, LBP4 or Dreams, who knows. And it would be nice to keep this well known meeting point.

I like the other forums too, and I don't want to miss a single one! Sorry this sounds selfish ..... but You asked

Thanks for that. Really means quite a bit to hear.

I have lots to think about and maybe asking other questions on how best we streamline the site and prepare for the future.

I guess I will have something to do when the snow comes... lol
2016-10-24 16:53:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Ohai!

So, it's been a while (I'm more of a weird stalker now )

As always, JWW, I think I easily speak for everyone when I say that everyone is super proud of your steadfast dedication to keeping this site going, especially considering the lack of activity in the community these days.

Personally, if you can afford it, and again, that's definitely important, I see no point closing the site. LBPC is still known as one of the original LBP forums, and you know for a fact that, should the interest come back, everyone will remember this place. If you keep it open, and can afford it, and the interest never comes back, then there's really no harm no foul. However, if you close it and the interest does come back, it'll be impossible to relaunch the site... out of it and staying out of it, so to speak.

We all want to help, though, and I think, personally, that a revamping is in order. Definitely agree that we need to combine the sections now. We no longer need a LBP1 - 2 - 3 Section. Let's just have Karting and LittleBigPlanet.

Also, I keep noticing we always have around 50 guests sitting here. Where are they? What are they doing? Why aren't they signing up? We need to find a way to encourage those bystanders to jump on board. If nothing else, the new members will be motivating

Whatever you decide, buddy, everyone is behind you <3
2016-10-24 21:07:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454


Well dang.. my reply dumped. lol

Anyway.. Good thoughts and thanks.

The guests are usually bots attempting to make their silly buy this posts.
2016-10-24 22:18:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I've said it before, but I feel what also really hurt LB3 was it being on PS3 and PS4, but not able to play with each other, thus dividing the community. Then on top of that, the connectivity issues causing even like system players to not join each other. To me this was the whole amazing part of LBP1 and LBP2. We played together...
I just made a long post and the forum just purged it when I tried to go into the "Go Advanced" settings (seems I can't access it at all, uh oh!). Lucky for you guys, I'll make my post shorter now.

Dreams may not be a big hit like LBP1 and LBP2 was. I hope it does well, but I'm afraid it may not do so well, and in turn this will effect LBPC.
So, you may consider building a community for new games if Dreams goes poorly, even if those games are not on the PS3. This would mean making new forum sections that are as extensive as the current sections for LBP2 and LBP3 to provide an adequate area for discussing other games.

If you did have forums for other games, you would probably also need stricter rules so there's no wars on which platform is best.

These games are all family friendly. They may not support sharing completely, but they support content creation.
- Minecraft
- Terraria
- Starbound
- Cities: Skylines
- Super Mario Maker
- Factorio
- General Indie Game Development? (It's very easy to get into nowadays.)
- Garry's Mod...maybe...
- Space Engineers


Also...have you considered turning on ads again?
2016-10-25 05:07:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


I just made a long post and the forum just purged it when I tried to go into the "Go Advanced" settings (seems I can't access it at all, uh oh!). Lucky for you guys, I'll make my post shorter now.

Dreams may not be a big hit like LBP1 and LBP2 was. I hope it does well, but I'm afraid it may not do so well, and in turn this will effect LBPC.
So, you may consider building a community for new games if Dreams goes poorly, even if those games are not on the PS3. This would mean making new forum sections that are as extensive as the current sections for LBP2 and LBP3 to provide an adequate area for discussing other games.

If you did have forums for other games, you would probably also need stricter rules so there's no wars on which platform is best.

These games are all family friendly. They may not support sharing completely, but they support content creation.
- Minecraft
- Terraria
- Starbound
- Cities: Skylines
- Super Mario Maker
- Factorio
- General Indie Game Development? (It's very easy to get into nowadays.)
- Garry's Mod...maybe...
- Space Engineers


Also...have you considered turning on ads again?

I wouldn't mind putting up with unrelated games and unrelated advertisement for games.

Having other game based sections may draw people in, but does Jwwphotos really want to be further away from the original idea of the website; to discuss Littlebigplanet?

If so, then it may be worth a shot, but I personally would prefer if this website kept LittleBigPlanet as its main focus.
2016-10-25 07:44:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


I just made a long post and the forum just purged it when I tried to go into the "Go Advanced" settings (seems I can't access it at all, uh oh!). Lucky for you guys, I'll make my post shorter now.

Dreams may not be a big hit like LBP1 and LBP2 was. I hope it does well, but I'm afraid it may not do so well, and in turn this will effect LBPC.
So, you may consider building a community for new games if Dreams goes poorly, even if those games are not on the PS3. This would mean making new forum sections that are as extensive as the current sections for LBP2 and LBP3 to provide an adequate area for discussing other games.

If you did have forums for other games, you would probably also need stricter rules so there's no wars on which platform is best.

These games are all family friendly. They may not support sharing completely, but they support content creation.
- Minecraft
- Terraria
- Starbound
- Cities: Skylines
- Super Mario Maker
- Factorio
- General Indie Game Development? (It's very easy to get into nowadays.)
- Garry's Mod...maybe...
- Space Engineers


Also...have you considered turning on ads again?

Nice ideas.... thanks!

Ads... not so much, though that might be a possibility. Right now, I have no issues with the expense as much how much use we get from that amount of money.

For example... you may pay for an online subscription to lets say Hulu, but if no one in the family uses it, you start to wonder why you pay for it.
2016-10-26 11:20:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


As someone who has always loved this community and website (though I am biased), I would like to leave my two cents.

LBPC has always been my favorite online community. Even if I were never personally involved in its development, I'd still recognize how accepting and positive its members have always been. We all formed new friendships, found solace and comfort when times were tough, and generally enjoyed the time we spent here. I have nothing but good memories.

However, LittleBigPlanet as a franchise is unfortunately losing relevance in the modern gaming market. While the original LBP sold nearly 6 million copies (http://www.vgchartz.com/game/12390/littlebigplanet/), the most recent entry (LBP 3) only sold a third of that number (http://www.vgchartz.com/game/82936/littlebigplanet-3/). The reason is simple: games are becoming more creative. With tentpole franchises like Halo, Mario, and Fallout integrating creative features into their games, the industry as a whole has learned from LBP's success. This means that creative folks who loved LBP's novel creative features no longer need LBP to get their creative fix.

This is primarily what has caused the "exodus" away from LittleBigPlanet and its community. It is sad, but it is also the inherent nature of video games. Things are always improving, which means very few games maintain an active community for more than 6 or 7 years. Especially creative games, which attract gamers who are always hungry for more creative freedom and thus are more inclined to move on to greener pastures.

If LBP3 had somehow innovated in fantastic new ways, perhaps it would have maintained the LBP community. As it stands though, Sony and Media Molecule both recognized that the audience was moving on. This is why LBP3 did not successfully innovate: because Sony did not see a reason to provide the same resources and talent the original LBP had access to. Both Sony and Mm noticed the decline and decided to focus on new creative projects developed for a more modern market.

I won't comment on whether or not Dreams will be that "greener pasture" Mm is reaching for; it's still too early to tell. But, regardless of Dreams' potential success, the hard truth is that LBP as a franchise is likely finished.

Does that mean this community isn't worth maintaining? Not at all! A smaller, hardcore fanbase still exists, so while LBPC probably won't ever reach the numbers it did in the past, it could still potentially survive and adapt. Integrating & supporting other creative games, perhaps. Or maybe finding some other creative / communal purpose to serve. There are definitely still options.

That said, I won't be personally involved in any of those decisions. I have moved away from Community work (for reasons I will explain in a new thread later today), so the most I will ever be is a fan. Still, I'm very happy I could contribute in some small way to the awesome community that was / is LBPCentral.

Love you guys always <3
2016-10-26 19:56:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729


LBP is a finished franchise? Sounds bad and demotivating. I leave LBP anyway. It's nonsense with the save issue.

I would keep this site. Just for the memorys.
2016-10-26 20:50:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I'm not active on the site except rarely, but I do love all the work all these communities put in to bring players closer together and help eachother out. Some sites its almost like a second family with how friendly they are. If it helps to post content up I am actually working on quite a few things and would like to get a lot of input on them. I was going to start giving them away, but it seems LBP3 in its stretching of layers broke quite a bit of it. I have to fix it up before I can start giving it away, but I will make posts so you all can see what im working on.

On a side note I know that a lot of bad decisions are made by higher ups in the game industry and it ruins games for the players that are dedicated to the content. Its sad really, but as a game designer myself I can understand why they do this. I wish they wouldnt, but they still do.

Also my community is drying up as well I happen to run the Little Big Planet Amino for mobile users, and with maybe less than 50 members its not all that great. No one posts content but maybe once every few weeks, and I've been trying to find a way to breathe some life into it, but its a no go. I tried to tie it in to my other one that's about Game Development seeing as I can help people get started making games, but I also use LBP as a game engine to an extent, and I was going to teach people how to make games in LBP from a game designer standpoint. That idea went well with one community and no one was interested in the other so I'm at a loss.
2016-10-27 13:57:00

Author:
LVL58
Posts: 7


...I have a new question! I like questions... I might get answers and boy do I like good answers too! lol

Considering these games that 'not so evil' warlord listed. Who here plays them and might be interested in becoming a SME for those particular sections? ..that is if we did offer that route as well as a section for Dreams.

That list again for any not paying attention or mouse wheel finger too tired from surfing the internetz...

- Minecraft
- Terraria
- Starbound
- Cities: Skylines
- Super Mario Maker
- Factorio
- General Indie Game Development? (It's very easy to get into nowadays.)
- Garry's Mod...maybe...
- Space Engineers
2016-10-27 22:41:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Making some new areas for those games here could be nice. The topic changes too other games and maybe, just maybe, some of the old creators will come back.2016-10-28 00:29:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Hi, jwwphotos, I have to confess that I play not one of these games, I'm playing almost exclusively LBP! 2016-10-28 08:09:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


...I have a new question! I like questions... I might get answers and boy do I like good answers too! lol

Considering these games that 'not so evil' warlord listed. Who here plays them and might be interested in becoming a SME for those particular sections? ..that is if we did offer that route as well as a section for Dreams.

That list again for any not paying attention or mouse wheel finger too tired from surfing the internetz...

- Minecraft
- Terraria
- Starbound
- Cities: Skylines
- Super Mario Maker
- Factorio
- General Indie Game Development? (It's very easy to get into nowadays.)
- Garry's Mod...maybe...
- Space Engineers


Out of that list, I've only played Minecraft and Terraria, both had a unique create system. However, I haven't played either of them in a very long time. I could get back into Minecraft for the site though. I could never really get into Terraria, a good game nonetheless.

Honestly though, what do we have planned exactly? Do we have a gameplan, or is it too soon tell?
2016-10-28 08:32:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


To have a gameplan, you have to have information... I am gathering information.

So it is too soon to tell.
2016-10-28 11:41:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Thanks for brainstorming

But I only play on PS4 and seldom PS3.
There are only a few games I played which include an editor.


Dragon Quest Builders (very cute game, but building in Terra incognita mode is, to be honest, for nothing)
Trackmania Turbo (this game drives me cracy, didn't try the editor)
Mousecraft (nice, bur not addictive IMHO)
Golf (don't remember the exact name, and You fall asleep before You can finish creating a single hole^^)


If I want to be creative, I always return to LBP.

When Projekt Spark came out, I wanted to buy a Xbox for this game, but then they shut down the servers. I think this was a flop.

I know DOOM has a good editor, maybe I try this game after all the Final Fantasy games comming out now. But I think Doom has not the cuteness factor like LBP, You agree?

So it's really hard to find a game that has so much to offer like LBP
2016-10-28 12:32:00

Author:
Schnupsi
Posts: 506


Minecraft and LBP have one thing to offer: Save bugs. But nevertheless they are good games. You can have fun for hours/years.2016-10-28 12:38:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


...I have a new question! I like questions... I might get answers and boy do I like good answers too! lol

Considering these games that 'not so evil' warlord listed. Who here plays them and might be interested in becoming a SME for those particular sections? ..that is if we did offer that route as well as a section for Dreams.

That list again for any not paying attention or mouse wheel finger too tired from surfing the internetz...

- Minecraft
- Terraria
- Starbound
- Cities: Skylines
- Super Mario Maker
- Factorio
- General Indie Game Development? (It's very easy to get into nowadays.)
- Garry's Mod...maybe...
- Space Engineers


Let's see... I've put 230 hours into terraria. So I guess I could help with that.

Oh, Monaco has a pretty good editor, actually.
Here's a link: http://store.steampowered.com/app/113020/

[Edit:] I would like to go a bit more in-depth about why I would like to be an SME for terraria. As I've said, I've put in a lot of hours for Terraria (and counting), but I'm also quite a dedicated person, who should be able to be on this website (at least) twice a day. I'm also quite experienced at the game, and for the things I don't know, I'm always happy to do research.

It would also be nice to do something constructive on this forum website.
2016-10-31 08:24:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Nice.

I have played Minecraft.
2016-10-31 12:45:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Cities Skylines is one of the best city builders ever made. Obviously city builders have great potential for creativity but this tops everything else. The game is very easily modded which allows for the game to become so much more from what originally is. There is an asset and map creator built in game to assist in creating as well as the upcoming scenario editor.

Some people have made insane maps, even converting the topography of the entire country of San Marino onto a single map so that it can be played. Someone on Reddit not too long ago also recreated Barcelona in impressive detail. In fact the Cities Skylines subreddit provides some great examples of how brilliant this game really is and if you want a sense of how great the mods are take a look at the Steam workshop.
2016-10-31 15:57:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I added Dreams as a new section for now... This weekend, I may archive or change some others.2016-10-31 22:07:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I added Dreams as a new section for now... This weekend, I may archive or change some others.

Thanks so much for adding a Dreams section! I feel like this will make the place more lively . And yeah, some of the older/less used sections should be archived, and you can also add sections for all those other games like Terraria and Minecraft .
2016-11-02 03:40:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


So we are finally reaching the breaking point of LBPC huh? Hee-oh! Suppose I’ll share some thoughts.

LBP & it’s community have been becoming a sad mess rolling down hill faster and faster ever since year 3 on LBP2... And LBP3 did nothing to help that! No in fact LBP3 was the last hope for the community… and like a sandwich that somebody dropped on the floor and tried pick it back up quickly and hand it to the customer, Sony diced our hopes and gave us a half broken game. Players playing together is a big selling point of LBP even while I personally don’t really play with others as I create & play alone mainly by choice… regardless it’s a important part of LBP and it was royally half-baked on LBP3. And lets not forget the corrupt profiles problems that became much more frequent on LBP3 then even the past games. There are many other problems too. and no, LBP3 lacking a full 3D create mode is not one of those problems.

Point is LBP was already a long running series that was wearing thin on the mind of the common gamer especially after LBPK. Sony made the mistake of wanting to milk LBP dry and trying to treat it as Nintendo does with Mario… But that’s the thing… LBP is not bloody Mario! …Mario Maker aside… the Mario series is not about creating content or it’s community, it is more about enjoying small separate adventures and whatnot. LBP on the other hand is mainly about the community and supporting it’s creativity… LBP3 clearly was rushed out long before it was ready just because Sony wanted a early holiday family friendly title for PS4 and wanted to double dip by selling a PS3 version too. The LBP community as a result was even more divided and put off in general. And honestly even if they fixed all the problems remaining on LBP3 it’s just to late now… with video games first impressions are almost everything and if you missed your chance and fall down the pit, it’s highly unlikely you can get back up within the same game. A stable solidly built LBP4 could maybe bring back life into the LBP series despite what I said about Sony making to many… but it’s kinda needed in this case to not only fix the problems but for folkz to give the game 1 more last chance.

Dreams looks promising, however I’m feeling very unsure if it’ll do good in popularity… Something about it feels like that regardless of it ending up great as a create type game… that it’ll turn out a flop anyways. Only a small amount of gamers are creative types, so complex in-depth create style games only appeal to a semi-small market unless they are overly simplified like Mario Maker. However if you can sell your games & creations as MM was talking about in their plans for Dreams and Sony doesn’t axe that aspect out of fear, then the game will have a lot more going for it then LBP… While profitless hobby work is all nice n stuffz… but it doesn’t motivate us greatly to put extreme effort in our projects or does it put money in our banks to keep us going… and our content being stuck on a server like it is on LBP makes it all the worse because if the servers ever go down then it’s good bye to everything that’s not saved onto your personal game, unlike if the game was on PC.

To summarize it all: Sony wanted to rushed out LBP3 long before it was really ready onto a already growingly tired & divided community. A solidly built PS4 exclusive LBP4 could maybe help, but it’d be a dice-roll result even still. Dreams might turnout to be a cool game, but it could easily flop in gamer interest, however the odds of Dreams doing good will increase if users can sell for profit their creations.

As for this forum? I say wait for Dreams to release before deciding if the forum should go offline or not… and if that game fails or everybody starts joining newly created Dreams-forums and still don’t visit LBPC and nothing else helps to gain interest in the forum after that… Then I’d have to say it’d be time to put LBPC in retirement. While it’d be sad to see all the memories and records of this place disappear… but honestly supporting a dead forum would pointless and a waste.

Now far as ideas I think could help this forum? For starters it needs members to actually be doing something instead of waiting for interest in LBP to come back to life by itself. Make silly fun articles about anything LBP related. And do full level reviews of new or old favorite levels and interviews with current creators or even talk about old creators as a bit of history & nostalgia is interesting enough. Seriously tho get the forum supported official contests back! And don’t underplay it… Here’s a suggestion, just forget about crown contests, because if I’m going to perfectly be honest here I don’t think they are motivating enough and I personally really never cared to get 1. Show me the greenbacks yo, the dough, the cha-ching money! That’ll get the good old motivation blood flowing into people no question about it! Do away with the extremely family-friendly no-profit nonsense and leave it behind, there‘s nothing wrong with rewarding people with money IMO. Even just a 100$ or 200$ cash prize would be enough to gain interest… If needed have other dedicated members of the forum help out with the prizes. Even I might be willing to help if taken into that direction. Far as how many of these contests should be done a year? I say 3 to 4.

My next suggestion is to archive all the old LBP sub-forums. And afterwards remake and shorten all the LBP sub-forums list into just the list below. And this includes anything LBP related, there should not be separate sub-forums for all the different LBP games anymore.

---
LBP News & Media.
LBP Contests. Note: Not sure if this one is needed or not as there already is a site contest sub-forum.
LBP Level & Object Showcase.
LBP Reviews & Recommendations.
LBP Suggestions.
LBP Tutorials.
LBP Help!.
LBP General Hub.
---

Would clean up the forum nicely as it keeps everybody closer together who visits the forum.

And that’s about all I have to say for now. Good Luck.
2016-11-02 15:02:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Great post..

To the last part... yeah, I am looking at doing some rearranging of forums soon. Not an Mm soon... probably like this weekend.
2016-11-02 23:07:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


So we are finally reaching the breaking point of LBPC huh? Hee-oh! Suppose I’ll share some thoughts.

LBP & it’s community have been becoming a sad mess rolling down hill faster and faster ever since year 3 on LBP2... And LBP3 did nothing to help that! No in fact LBP3 was the last hope for the community… and like a sandwich that somebody dropped on the floor and tried pick it back up quickly and hand it to the customer, Sony diced our hopes and gave us a half broken game. Players playing together is a big selling point of LBP even while I personally don’t really play with others as I create & play alone mainly by choice… regardless it’s a important part of LBP and it was royally half-baked on LBP3. And lets not forget the corrupt profiles problems that became much more frequent on LBP3 then even the past games. There are many other problems too. and no, LBP3 lacking a full 3D create mode is not one of those problems.

Point is LBP was already a long running series that was wearing thin on the mind of the common gamer especially after LBPK. Sony made the mistake of wanting to milk LBP dry and trying to treat it as Nintendo does with Mario… But that’s the thing… LBP is not bloody Mario! …Mario Maker aside… the Mario series is not about creating content or it’s community, it is more about enjoying small separate adventures and whatnot. LBP on the other hand is mainly about the community and supporting it’s creativity… LBP3 clearly was rushed out long before it was ready just because Sony wanted a early holiday family friendly title for PS4 and wanted to double dip by selling a PS3 version too. The LBP community as a result was even more divided and put off in general. And honestly even if they fixed all the problems remaining on LBP3 it’s just to late now… with video games first impressions are almost everything and if you missed your chance and fall down the pit, it’s highly unlikely you can get back up within the same game. A stable solidly built LBP4 could maybe bring back life into the LBP series despite what I said about Sony making to many… but it’s kinda needed in this case to not only fix the problems but for folkz to give the game 1 more last chance.

Dreams looks promising, however I’m feeling very unsure if it’ll do good in popularity… Something about it feels like that regardless of it ending up great as a create type game… that it’ll turn out a flop anyways. Only a small amount of gamers are creative types, so complex in-depth create style games only appeal to a semi-small market unless they are overly simplified like Mario Maker. However if you can sell your games & creations as MM was talking about in their plans for Dreams and Sony doesn’t axe that aspect out of fear, then the game will have a lot more going for it then LBP… While profitless hobby work is all nice n stuffz… but it doesn’t motivate us greatly to put extreme effort in our projects or does it put money in our banks to keep us going… and our content being stuck on a server like it is on LBP makes it all the worse because if the servers ever go down then it’s good bye to everything that’s not saved onto your personal game, unlike if the game was on PC.

To summarize it all: Sony wanted to rushed out LBP3 long before it was really ready onto a already growingly tired & divided community. A solidly built PS4 exclusive LBP4 could maybe help, but it’d be a dice-roll result even still. Dreams might turnout to be a cool game, but it could easily flop in gamer interest, however the odds of Dreams doing good will increase if users can sell for profit their creations.

As for this forum? I say wait for Dreams to release before deciding if the forum should go offline or not… and if that game fails or everybody starts joining newly created Dreams-forums and still don’t visit LBPC and nothing else helps to gain interest in the forum after that… Then I’d have to say it’d be time to put LBPC in retirement. While it’d be sad to see all the memories and records of this place disappear… but honestly supporting a dead forum would pointless and a waste.

Now far as ideas I think could help this forum? For starters it needs members to actually be doing something instead of waiting for interest in LBP to come back to life by itself. Make silly fun articles about anything LBP related. And do full level reviews of new or old favorite levels and interviews with current creators or even talk about old creators as a bit of history & nostalgia is interesting enough. Seriously tho get the forum supported official contests back! And don’t underplay it… Here’s a suggestion, just forget about crown contests, because if I’m going to perfectly be honest here I don’t think they are motivating enough and I personally really never cared to get 1. Show me the greenbacks yo, the dough, the cha-ching money! That’ll get the good old motivation blood flowing into people no question about it! Do away with the extremely family-friendly no-profit nonsense and leave it behind, there‘s nothing wrong with rewarding people with money IMO. Even just a 100$ or 200$ cash prize would be enough to gain interest… If needed have other dedicated members of the forum help out with the prizes. Even I might be willing to help if taken into that direction. Far as how many of these contests should be done a year? I say 3 to 4.

My next suggestion is to archive all the old LBP sub-forums. And afterwards remake and shorten all the LBP sub-forums list into just the list below. And this includes anything LBP related, there should not be separate sub-forums for all the different LBP games anymore.

---
LBP News & Media.
LBP Contests. Note: Not sure if this one is needed or not as there already is a site contest sub-forum.
LBP Level & Object Showcase.
LBP Reviews & Recommendations.
LBP Suggestions.
LBP Tutorials.
LBP Help!.
LBP General Hub.
---

Would clean up the forum nicely as it keeps everybody closer together who visits the forum.

And that’s about all I have to say for now. Good Luck.

You absolutely nailed it. All of my inner doubts about LBP3's stability/development are completely stated here. Sony rushed it way too much, and Sumo made the bad choice of dividing the community with Cross-Generation, by having LBP3 be limited by the PS3's hardware. Online was broken, you couldn't connect to anyone, and this turned off a lot of fans(especially kids, because playing together, finding new friends online was the biggest hope that kids from lbp2 wanted to see in lbp3), including me. I created a lot back on lbp1 and 2, then I decided to kick back and enjoy the show in lbp3. Even as a retired creator, I still couldn't enjoy it because I couldn't connect to any of my friends(I know some of these issues are fixed now, but the online is still shakier than it was in the first 2 games). LBP3 is the perfect example of a game that had MASSIVE potential(the original trailer had like 4 million views when it launched), but poor choices by Sony and Sumo led to it's destruction. But still, I'm really thankful to Sumo for at least trying, and LBP3 was still an amazing experience! I personally enjoyed levels far more on lbp3 than on 2, but sadly I couldn't enjoy them to their full extent because of the glitches and poor online . Not to mention that creating on LBP3 had several glitches back then(thankfully their fixed now, but they turned me away from creating initially).
2016-11-03 02:08:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Hate it, when big companys can't wait. LBP3 could've been really good at the start.

The most bugs are fixed and new features got added, which is cool too. I like the Create Mode in LBP3. It offers a lot. But many players did not have patience.

And how I even said, if we want to keep this alive, we need to do it better.
2016-11-03 07:01:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Hahaha I gotta say it's actually quite heartwarming to see so many old faces reply again once such a serious topic was brought up by jww. So many memories :32016-11-04 05:26:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


I agree with Yugnar. This one thread has brought so many people back together that have clearly been here for years, and have been lurking in the shadows for years, too (you bunch of beautiful weirdo's, you )2016-11-04 22:47:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454


weirdos... the twisted, the insane. 2016-11-04 22:48:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


weirdos... the twisted, the insane.

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50402&d=1478303297

You forgot to say Loony tho! D:
2016-11-05 00:53:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


loony... I knew there was another. lol2016-11-05 00:56:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Just want to say, if you want to bring in even more new members to the sight: You need advertising.

When I first played LBP I knew what LBPC was because I had seen levels with the sticker for it in-game and stuff like that. Site-sponsored competitions and levels are also a great deal of help.

So, for anyone who's reading this: feel free to mention LBPC to your friends - or put LBPC stickers or items in your levels. It could make the community here a little more lively again. This isn't just for LBP though. It could also be for Dreams, Minecraft, or whatever else is out there.

If they want to know what it is, just say it's a laid-back, drama-free(ish) forum that's focused on talking about creative games like LBP and Minecraft.
2016-11-08 04:13:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Just want to say, if you want to bring in even more new members to the sight: You need advertising.

When I first played LBP I knew what LBPC was because I had seen levels with the sticker for it in-game and stuff like that. Site-sponsored competitions and levels are also a great deal of help.

So, for anyone who's reading this: feel free to mention LBPC to your friends - or put LBPC stickers or items in your levels. It could make the community here a little more lively again. This isn't just for LBP though. It could also be for Dreams, Minecraft, or whatever else is out there.

If they want to know what it is, just say it's a laid-back, drama-free(ish) forum that's focused on talking about creative games like LBP and Minecraft.

Heh, I've always wanted to put an LittleBigPlanet Central sticker in my level, but I always thought you needed to have special permission, or be in a contest to do it.
2016-11-08 06:05:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Nah... just stick one in because you like us. 2016-11-08 11:12:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


To summarize my thoughts. Brainstorming mostly and throwing all thoughts out there. Some/all may be bad. Also, some is more in line of growing the community, and not the site exclusively.

- Has anyone contacted creators and invited them here? Like big creators. Perhaps let them know of LBPCentral and trying to help revitalize the community, maybe a video? Possibly just ask them to use the sticker. Approach and tactic matters of course.

- Something involving other forums.

- Help from Sumo would be very welcomed (Perhaps not exclusive help for LBPC), but perhaps hard to do. But it is a mutual plus.

- Some sort of mass message to people here that tells about the sticker, where to get it. A level link that advertises the site. (<- Not sure if that one is legal due to advertising a site)

- Money/Real prizes for contests.

- Doing something that can get attention outside of the LBP bubble. Perhaps a small story on a youtuber's video. Jim Sterling-esque people. (I doubt you'd get his attention, but, eh)

- What brought people to LBPC in the first place, when it was great? List them and compare to current availability to those needs. Find a way to fix what has changed. (Well duh, redundant, but I wanted to say it anyways)

- We must have additional pylons. That is imperative.
2016-11-08 13:59:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


Just some thoughts ....

inGame-advertising is important.
IMHO there should be a Sticky-Section in LBP3 (like Level of the day) where every Forum (not just LBPC) has a fixed Adventurelevel with Sublevels for every month, containing a forum-selection of levels.
This don't have to get the touch of a competition, it has to motivate the creators to post them.

I think there are so many good, talented, new creators out there who don't even know that there are forums to advertise their levels.
2016-11-08 14:02:00

Author:
Schnupsi
Posts: 506


Just some thoughts ....

inGame-advertising is important.
IMHO there should be a Sticky-Section in LBP3 (like Level of the day) where every Forum (not just LBPC) has a fixed Adventurelevel with Sublevels for every month, containing a forum-selection of levels.
This don't have to get the touch of a competition, it has to motivate the creators to post them.

I think there are so many good, talented, new creators out there who don't even know that there are forums to advertise their levels.

I personally like that idea, but it brings up a few issues. For instance, more sites could pop up and if there are too many, it could become too saturated with forums. And it could bring up an issue of competition. But then they could rotate the forums, but this too has a similar problem of a possible over-saturation.
2016-11-08 14:33:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


I personally like that idea, but it brings up a few issues. For instance, more sites could pop up and if there are too many, it could become too saturated with forums. And it could bring up an issue of competition. But then they could rotate the forums, but this too has a similar problem of a possible over-saturation.

You are right, but as I said, just thoughts.
And I meant a place for every forum, and I don't think someone buys webspace just to get a mention in a LBP-menu

I didn't read Your post before I postet mine, but I like Your ideas, and think they are easier to realize.
But brainstorming is always a good idea!
2016-11-08 14:53:00

Author:
Schnupsi
Posts: 506


I don't think we are in great danger of too many sites... We are struggling here just having a site due to lack of interest in LBP. 2016-11-08 15:50:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


- What brought people to LBPC in the first place, when it was great? List them and compare to current availability to those needs. Find a way to fix what has changed. (Well duh, redundant, but I wanted to say it anyways)

Here's my thoughts: I honestly first came here to just advertise my levels. I was tired of getting only a handful of plays on each of my levels so I began making threads for them here. The threads helped a little, but what really helped was the old LBP1 republishing exploit. (If you republished an already published level, it would put it back on the new/hot(?) levels page, which meant it was bound to get more plays. With enough plays it would stay on the hot levels page and you were golden.)

But then I stuck around for many other reasons. I met friends, still advertised my levels, I learned from tutorials, watched competitions, the spotlights, interviews - then I made some tutorials, helped make community content, rode the wave with the community when crazy stuff happened like game-breaking or game-changing bugs (layer glitch, Thexmen), I also played others levels here and gave feedback. Midway through LBP2's lifetime though I just got burnt out on all things LBP, and I also started college stuff - I also slowly transitioned to PC gaming and I still don't have a PS4 (if I have the time and money in the future though, I want to get one for Dreams).

Now, sometime between then and now, LBPC had a lot of issues staying online, and I think that really crippled the community here as members just stopped checking for updates on the website due to expecting it to be down again. Another huge thing: LBP's popularity has really died down and only some of the more hardcore or new fans are playing it. I don't think it's anywhere near as popular as it was when LBP1 and 2 first came out.

A lot of the people that made LBPC as the thing LBPC is known as are gone too. I mean a lot of the members like rtm223 or comphermc who made a lot of in-depth content are no longer around to help prod growth here.

I think if LBPC keeps its nice/friendly learning and promotional environment, then it may continue to attract new members like it had attracted me.
2016-11-08 17:50:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Surely, just using the LBPC because it looks awesome is reason enough to use said sticker... the fact it advertises this little slice of LBP Heaven is a bonus 2016-11-08 22:54:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454


Here's my thoughts: I honestly first came here to just advertise my levels. I was tired of getting only a handful of plays on each of my levels so I began making threads for them here. The threads helped a little, but what really helped was the old LBP1 republishing exploit. (If you republished an already published level, it would put it back on the new/hot(?) levels page, which meant it was bound to get more plays. With enough plays it would stay on the hot levels page and you were golden.)

But then I stuck around for many other reasons. I met friends, still advertised my levels, I learned from tutorials, watched competitions, the spotlights, interviews - then I made some tutorials, helped make community content, rode the wave with the community when crazy stuff happened like game-breaking or game-changing bugs (layer glitch, Thexmen), I also played others levels here and gave feedback. Midway through LBP2's lifetime though I just got burnt out on all things LBP, and I also started college stuff - I also slowly transitioned to PC gaming and I still don't have a PS4 (if I have the time and money in the future though, I want to get one for Dreams).

Now, sometime between then and now, LBPC had a lot of issues staying online, and I think that really crippled the community here as members just stopped checking for updates on the website due to expecting it to be down again. Another huge thing: LBP's popularity has really died down and only some of the more hardcore or new fans are playing it. I don't think it's anywhere near as popular as it was when LBP1 and 2 first came out.

A lot of the people that made LBPC as the thing LBPC is known as are gone too. I mean a lot of the members like rtm223 or comphermc who made a lot of in-depth content are no longer around to help prod growth here.

I think if LBPC keeps its nice/friendly learning and promotional environment, then it may continue to attract new members like it had attracted me.

- A place to publish levels to let people know. But more importantly, a way to get focus on your level.

- Somewhere to socialize, but not having LBP as the only focus. Meet fellow great people. (Which the new sections might help with this)

- Able to see what the community has to offer and how it grows via contests and reviews.

- Original content via tutorials, interviews, reviews. (Video format tends to be the better choice over text)

- There are no doubts that LBPC being down had a huge impact, especially during a hard time for the series itself, and the concerns that came with it. But, the site did not always have a huge following since it had to of started at no members. And, though the community of the game itself has shrunk, there are still plenty of players, most of which do not even know this place exists.

- The site suffers from two of the biggest issues. Advertisement and original content. People can't come here if they don't know it exists. And people won't frequent the site if they have nothing new to see. (Again, redundant, but I felt it should be said)

- And not everyone knows about the sticker, how to get it, or knows a good way to put it in their level. But that can be fixed by either a video, a level, but also letting everyone know here in the forums that it is a thing that can be used and examples of putting it in the levels would be helpful.




ALSO: As for rebranding. A site dedicated to the base of LBP wouldn't be bad. A kind of, "Play, Create, Share" home for many games with that kind of concept in mind. Which is KIND of what the site looks to be doing a little of with the added/to-be-added sections. Assuming one doesn't exist already. But that comes with more room needed, and isn't necessary, but a neat option.
2016-11-09 04:28:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


Say, do you guys still have the power to give people pins?

Because if you do, it may be worth putting up some contests. After all, more contests may draw people in, and when people see the label
'LBPC contest #01' it may draw more people into this fabulous website.

You may want to spice some things up by making the contest only for levels created on a certain game, or by making it so that they have to include an object/certain theme to be a part of the contest.

...You may also want start the contests small, though.
2016-11-13 19:42:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Say, do you guys still have the power to give people pins?

Because if you do, it may be worth putting up some contests. After all, more contests may draw people in, and when people see the label
'LBPC contest #01' it may draw more people into this fabulous website.

You may want to spice some things up by making the contest only for levels created on a certain game, or by making it so that they have to include an object/certain theme to be a part of the contest.

...You may also want start the contests small, though.

Maybe we can start sending emails to Sumo and start bringing back contests and the such . I know MM will do that for Dreams . We should probably have a new community award(something besides the crown that virtually everyone has at this point xD).
2016-11-13 20:25:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


We should probably have a new community award(something besides the crown that virtually everyone has at this point xD).

I already gave the best answer to that. MONEY PRIZE. It's the only thing worthwhile. I sure as hell know I never had interest in trophy level prizes.
2016-11-14 05:31:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I already gave the best answer to that. MONEY PRIZE. It's the only thing worthwhile. I sure as hell know I never had interest in trophy level prizes.

That would be pretty awesome, though it would still make me jealous of other people, because even after all these years, I still haven't gotten the crown(yes, I even missed that one point on LBP2 where the crown was downloadable to everyone )
2016-11-14 10:53:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


That would be pretty awesome, though it would still make me jealous of other people, because even after all these years, I still haven't gotten the crown(yes, I even missed that one point on LBP2 where the crown was downloadable to everyone )

I never even tried to get a crown or pins honestly. I only used to enter contests little bit in the past just for the fun and to join in on the community events... but I grew tired of that as I wasn't even interested in the prizes and preferred to work on my own projects without a time limit. For awhile now I've been pondering off & on if I should run 100$ prize contests myself... but when I saw LBP3 & it's community dying off almost right off the bat... I wasn't sure I saw the point anymore.
2016-11-14 11:25:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


The only real downfall to monetary rewards is it may cause some backlash. I mean, contests are contests and there is bound to be someone that will fight the decision, but something like $100 is a big chunk of change. I do like money prizes a lot more than pins and crowns though.2016-11-14 18:07:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


I never even tried to get a crown or pins honestly. I only used to enter contests little bit in the past just for the fun and to join in on the community events... but I grew tired of that as I wasn't even interested in the prizes and preferred to work on my own projects without a time limit. For awhile now I've been pondering off & on if I should run 100$ prize contests myself... but when I saw LBP3 & it's community dying off almost right off the bat... I wasn't sure I saw the point anymore.

Tbh I kind of feel like MM/Sumo should have had a better MM Pick system as well. I liked StevenI's picks, but I felt he focused too much on giving picks to people who knew made good levels(I feel like the MM Pick limit should've been 3 at the most for each player), or who were picked on from fansites. I wish Sumo would've made it easier for lesser-known players to have their masterpieces spotlighted. That was really the downfall in LBP . Old creators who were from LBP1 and 2 continued to succeed(which is fine), but new players suffered to get recognition. That's kind of why I suggest advertising on people's profiles(which is what I did back on lbp2). I hate bothering people too, but it's the only way aside from posting on forums to get your levels known if you're a lesser-known creator.

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The only real downfall to monetary rewards is it may cause some backlash. I mean, contests are contests and there is bound to be someone that will fight the decision, but something like $100 is a big chunk of change. I do like money prizes a lot more than pins and crowns though.

Yeah I agree, people would definitely argue over who has the right to make that decision, and some people might beg for it because of their personal needs(whether real or made up lol). Maybe free dlc is another thing they could implement into LBP3 or Dreams for contests?
2016-11-14 20:18:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Tbh I kind of feel like MM/Sumo should have had a better MM Pick system as well.
What does any of that have to do with what I was talking about?


Yeah I agree, people would definitely argue over who has the right to make that decision, and some people might beg for it because of their personal needs(whether real or made up lol).

Why does it matter if people would argue or not? And begging doesn't get people anywhere. It's 100% up to the judges who wins or not in a contest, the opinions of players who enter a contest don't count.
2016-11-14 20:28:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


But still, I feel like MM should definitely make it easier for new players on Dreams to get recognition, especially years after the games release, when it's piled with thousands of levels(or in Dreams's case, full games/creations). I don't know a system to getting there, but I'm sure MM will figure it out 2016-11-15 00:27:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


But still, I feel like MM should definitely make it easier for new players on Dreams to get recognition, especially years after the games release, when it's piled with thousands of levels(or in Dreams's case, full games/creations). I don't know a system to getting there, but I'm sure MM will figure it out

There is no judging yet how Dreams will work completely. Dreams will probably be insanely different from LBP that there won't be much comparing the 2. Sure we'll be able to play free user levels on servers... but there's also the fact we might be able to sell our creations on Dreams as separate stand alone products from Dreams which was talked about in one of their blogs... which automatically tells how different Dreams may end up being. I think some LBP fans are assuming way to much how Dreams will work in the end.
2016-11-15 02:51:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


There is no judging yet how Dreams will work completely. Dreams will probably be insanely different from LBP that there won't be much comparing the 2. Sure we'll be able to play free user levels on servers... but there's also the fact we might be able to sell our creations on Dreams as separate stand alone products from Dreams which was talked about in one of their blogs... which automatically tells how different Dreams may end up being. I think some LBP fans are assuming way to much how Dreams will work in the end.

True. I was hoping Dreams was just going to be a 3D version of LBP. But c'mon, it's MM, the geniuses behind LBP1 and 2. I'm sure they'll find ways to attract to old fans, and new ones too .
2016-11-15 10:59:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I really don't see why anyone would come here for minecraft or general indie game discussion instead of the millions of other established minecraft or indie game creation stuff2016-11-15 20:21:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I thought that too, but we shall see.. Doesn't hurt to have the extra stuff available for those that already visit.2016-11-15 22:09:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Just saw this thread hope this site stays around .have a lot of good memories here.2016-11-16 19:14:00

Author:
Lbphart3
Posts: 813


What can I say bro, I totally understand your position. The LBP online community just isn't there anymore, I really don't know what happened, because it wasn't only due to the LBPC blackout of nearly half a year, other sites are drying out as well. Probably the one with a decent activity atm is LBN... Even with the Community Council going on I see so few posts and levels posted here in comparison with a year or two ago that it is depressing. LBF is somewhat active, too, but not that much.

You know, I love this site, it is the greatest, friendliest family that I've ever been a part of. In my own selfish point of view I'd love for it to stay and even though I'd love to continue doing the Community Spotlight things and whatnot, no one else is active and I just haven't got the time I used to have to dedicate to stuff like that. I'd be very interested to see other replies and thoughts as well.

With over 6 years belonging to this particular community, this place was the one I had the most fun with for a very long time, but it is just not the same without everyone who made this place what it was. I'd love to see it being back to what it was, I don't really know if there's a way to do it, though. Most of the LBP Japan community is gone, too. Sad, sad story. LBPK servers are down. No LBP4 in the future I assume. I don't think it is a dead game per se but this community will only re-emerge with Dreams, I'm assuming.LBPKarting servers are actually still up.
2016-11-21 14:50:00

Author:
smash909
Posts: 83


First post in a while!

As much fun as this site was, LBP's glory days are behind it. While LBP3 may have been the nail in the coffin, people forget that the active membership for this site was declining since a couple of years after LBP2. People (including myself) simply moved on to other games and creative endeavours. That's life. I was initially hoping that some kind of PlayCreateShareCentral would emerge with dreams, but it's looking like that game will probably only receive a fraction of the support LBP1/2 had.

I have a lot of good memories tied to this site and LBP (heck, I was 13ish when I joined, I'm 21 now). Seeing the immense wealth of creativity of this community at its prime is not something I'm going to forget. I remember getting hyped for real water and LBP2. The reality is that, irrespective of nostalgia, it probably doesn't make economic sense to keep this site running for too much longer. The writing has been on the wall for the community at large, with the Japanese servers being shut down as an example.

I respect any decision made. Thanks for the good times, I definitely felt that this community helped nurture my creativity. I hope others feel that way too.

Bonns
(I don't usually sign my posts, but this is out of finality. You can follow me at @bonnszai on twitter if you don't hate me lol).
2016-11-21 18:58:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487


I don't want to be the fake king, but I am a active guy on these forums. I don't understand why many guys aren't active anymore. Don't tell me it's the reallife. I have some situations too in rl, but I still find the time to play and post sth.2016-11-21 19:02:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


You're not alone! 2016-11-21 19:08:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


Yes I know.2016-11-21 19:23:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Greetings everyone!

With less and less activity, I would like to hear some thoughts about what I should do on this site in the future. ...like in Stranger Things... do we stay or do we go?

Not that I mind terribly, but I do pay for this out of my own pocket and if there is no real need for the site, I would close it down... although a horribly sad decision.

So I would like some thoughts and a few questions.

Are other sites active? ..if so, which ones?

Thanks!!
jwwPhotosWouldn't it be a possibility for someone else to take over? When the administrator on a forum called http://donaldforum.no decided to shut down his forum I offered to take it over and I have been running it since. If some users are willing I think that would be preferable over shutting it down.
2016-11-21 19:23:00

Author:
smash909
Posts: 83


He can afford it, but he asked because of the activity, not because he is poor. 2016-11-21 19:24:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


He can afford it, but he asked because of the activity, not because he is poor. I don't see the point of shutting it down unless there is a cost to him so it doesn't matter if he can afford it, what matters is the willingness to pay for it. If he is unwilling and considering shutting it down it would be better to let someone else take over.2016-11-21 19:29:00

Author:
smash909
Posts: 83


He thought it would be unnecessary to keep this running, because 'no one' uses this site. That's what I meant.

But I think he will pay for it, because many sections were added.
2016-11-21 19:35:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Hi smash909,

jwwphotos didn't and doesn't want to shut down lbpc! If you follow this thread then you will see, that jwwphotos wanted to initiate a discussion about the future of lbpc, about ideas what the members would changes, so that lbpc can stay a vivid community even if the gaming interest have changed over the time! There have been some fine ideas and jwwphotos already has begun to do some changes in the forum structure! So that our forum can get modernized and stay a vivid place to meet other gamers and friends!

Many greetings, Jürgen^^
2016-11-21 19:40:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


Hi smash909,

jwwphotos didn't and doesn't want to shut down lbpc! If you follow this thread then you will see, that jwwphotos wanted to initiate a discussion about the future of lbpc, about ideas what the members would changes, so that lbpc can stay a vivid community even if the gaming interest have changed over the time! There have been some fine ideas and jwwphotos already has begun to do some changes in the forum structure! So that our forum can get modernized and stay a vivid place to meet other gamers and friends!

Many greetings, Jürgen^^Ok. I should probably have read the thread first.
2016-11-21 20:10:00

Author:
smash909
Posts: 83


lol... reading helps sometimes. no worries!!

I only mentioned money so that folks would focus on the seriousness of the conversation. When it is on someone else's dime, there is always the call from the back of more pie for everyone. Sort of an out of sight out of mind thing. No biggie..

I've gotten some good ideas and just going to see how it goes.
2016-11-21 20:34:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


lol... reading helps sometimes. no worries!!

I only mentioned money so that folks would focus on the seriousness of the conversation. When it is on someone else's dime, there is always the call from the back of more pie for everyone. Sort of an out of sight out of mind thing. No biggie..

I've gotten some good ideas and just going to see how it goes.

I see ya jwwphotos, trying to use money to bribe people
2016-11-21 21:44:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I see ya jwwphotos, trying to use money to bribe people

LOL!! ...In a way... yes!
2016-11-22 01:30:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Every time I come to LBPC my left hand gets pins and needles, and I don't know why..... Aaaanywhooo, any news, JWW? I see the new Dreams section is up and looking sexy 2016-11-25 22:08:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454


News? ...not really. I got some great ideas and feedback, so we are trying some things.2016-11-26 13:54:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


News? ...not really. I got some great ideas and feedback, so we are trying some things.

Goody goody. I would add some suggestions but honestly, the smart sacks above have pretty much covered all bases a this point. I do love coming back here... even the nostalgia installs a sense of creative wonder in me. It fills me with the potential to go my Moon, start a level, and never finish it like always
2016-11-26 19:49:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454


Haha, sounds nice. And similiar to me.2016-11-27 06:21:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I don't want to be the fake king, but I am a active guy on these forums. I don't understand why many guys aren't active anymore. Don't tell me it's the reallife. I have some situations too in rl, but I still find the time to play and post sth.

I'd say it's a mixture of leaving college (a good amount of users who are just leaving are about 20), the game is getting old/outdated, whatever you want to call it (it's not one of the only creative games anymore), and people's skill level increasing beyond what LBP can efficiently handle. I wouldn't really look past the declining player base either. It's sad because I've never actually seen a game pull together such a close-knit (no pun intended) group of people for so long. There have been ups and downs which we've stuck it all out somewhat together (heh, we've all had our inactivity periods). It's getting to the point (at least in my life) where you have to start limiting your friends to be successful, choose who you really care about. It's bittersweet because it actually is sad to see everyone slowly stop coming to these forums, but also super happy because even though we didn't personally know everyone on the site, we know that they're able to take whatever they got out of LBP and go on with their lives. I hope everyone continues to check in with the forums that follow MM's games, but when LBPC goes down or the ones who have been around for a while leave for good, it's going to be bye for possibly ever! It's been fun, everyone! Also extremely helpful for computer science
2016-11-27 08:48:00

Author:
koltonaugust
Posts: 1382


OK.

Life gets hard. I know that. But I don't want to leave everyone alone. LBP is one of the best game series I've ever played and I can't say goodbye. And I don't think it's the time for it.
2016-11-27 14:17:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


It's not going away within the next year or two, it's just that when it does go away, it probably will be too late to say goodbyes. That's my thoughts on why everyone's saying goodbye now! I'm certainly not stopping playing LBP or Dreams (when it comes out) anytime soon, but I'd like to have a nice goodbye to those that are.2016-11-27 21:51:00

Author:
koltonaugust
Posts: 1382


I think we have different opinions. I want to play and create. I don't want to stop, because others say, it's dead or it will be.2016-11-28 05:44:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I joined these forums in 2014 and I've only just returned. I'd like to think there's still some life in these forums, since I myself am trying to re-establish my passion for this franchise. I've struggled to find the motivation to create over the past few years. Heck, the last time I published a proper level was in 2013. I've been thinking about when I will publish another one ever since. But due to one reason or another, it simply has not happened.

My lack of motivation and activity is something that really irritates me. I'd like to try and make up for it by mounting a full scale return to LBP before it's too late. It's like a mid-life crisis of sorts....

I'm hoping I can maintain my level of interest over the next few weeks and months and see how much progress I can make. By all means, if you feel like you could meet someone new or start a new collaborative project, I'm all ears, assuming I can make it happen around my University work
2016-11-30 19:53:00

Author:
oli440
Posts: 7


Life can throw you in a hole. You can get out and be creative or you change yourself and stay in that hole.

Everyone decides on his own. I climbed out. LBP is a cool franchise. I want to keep it alive. I do sth. Not my best, but I am trying.
2016-11-30 20:21:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I read that as "Life you just throw in a hole," and got really worried2016-11-30 22:36:00

Author:
koltonaugust
Posts: 1382


Haha, OK.
I meant, that life can get hard and rough.
2016-12-01 03:04:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I'd say it's a mixture of leaving college (a good amount of users who are just leaving are about 20), the game is getting old/outdated, whatever you want to call it (it's not one of the only creative games anymore), and people's skill level increasing beyond what LBP can efficiently handle. I wouldn't really look past the declining player base either. It's sad because I've never actually seen a game pull together such a close-knit (no pun intended) group of people for so long. There have been ups and downs which we've stuck it all out somewhat together (heh, we've all had our inactivity periods). It's getting to the point (at least in my life) where you have to start limiting your friends to be successful, choose who you really care about. It's bittersweet because it actually is sad to see everyone slowly stop coming to these forums, but also super happy because even though we didn't personally know everyone on the site, we know that they're able to take whatever they got out of LBP and go on with their lives. I hope everyone continues to check in with the forums that follow MM's games, but when LBPC goes down or the ones who have been around for a while leave for good, it's going to be bye for possibly ever! It's been fun, everyone! Also extremely helpful for computer science


Dam it, Kolt, stop making me cry
2016-12-01 23:14:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454


It was just great playing, creating and share on LBP. Gold times.

So, oh... well, I stopped playing LBP for good. I decided to never come back again since I lost every level I had in my moon due to profile's corruption. I usually, now, visit Dreambubble (a forum for Dreams), and I am very ansious to get my hands on that game! For some reason, my mind assumed that everyone who gave up from LBP will be moving to Dreams when it comes out, so I am just... there, discussing about the game. I think a new comunity will rise around Dreams just like it happened to LBP1, so I am sticking there.

I don't like saying goodbye, because I really KNOW that most of the players here will definetly move to another area, and it is just beautiful to see how the Mm's Ceative Comunity just moves around the internet/world... creating new things for everyone to enjoy: illustrations, scripts, movies, stories, books, animations, music, etc... I am sure I will find a lot of art around the internet from you, guys. And I hope you find my art around there and there too!

And sorry for my bad english. Hope you all can understand me!
2016-12-05 19:50:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


It's your decision, but I had problems too and I am still playing LBP.2016-12-06 17:28:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


It's your decision, but I had problems too and I am still playing LBP.

Well, for me, it works like...

If you need to force it, leave it.

And it also works backwards.

If you want it, go for it.

If sometime I have the will to get back to LBP, I'll just do it, and play the game again.

I insisted way too much on that game, and I gave up from it. And there is nothing wrong with that. I am not a worse person for getting tired, you know. And who decided to stay is not a better person too. That's alright.
People go, people stay, people get back, and people never turn back.

Now I just realized that I totally forgot to talk about the forum, which was the whole point of the topic sorry lol
I really like here, the community was/is one of the best I've ever seen/participated, so maybe LBPC could become something smaller, like some of you said above. I am comfortable with that.
2016-12-06 21:38:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


I usually, now, visit Dreambubble (a forum for Dreams), and I am very ansious to get my hands on that game! For some reason, my mind assumed that everyone who gave up from LBP will be moving to Dreams when it comes out, so I am just... there, discussing about the game. I think a new comunity will rise around Dreams just like it happened to LBP1, so I am sticking there.

Keep in mind, we have a new Dreams section here as well.

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?227-Dreams
2016-12-06 22:13:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Keep in mind, we have a new Dreams section here as well.

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?227-Dreams

Oh, that's nice!
Looking forward to it
2016-12-06 22:57:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


Once I get some time, we will have the site redecorated to show that a bit easier too.2016-12-07 00:33:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


It sounds like you had a hate love with LBP. And to be honest, I don't feel better than others. I know many players, who say that LBP is dead and they don't spend time into LBP itself. They put the blame on others. I personally know, that LBP got smaller, but it's not dead.

This site will live. As long as some guys care about this site, it will be OK.
2016-12-07 01:12:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


It sounds like you had a hate love with LBP. And to be honest, I don't feel better than others. I know many players, who say that LBP is dead and they don't spend time into LBP itself. They put the blame on others. I personally know, that LBP got smaller, but it's not dead.

This site will live. As long as some guys care about this site, it will be OK.

Sorry if it sounded rude in the previous message. That's not what I meant when I said anyone is better than anyone. I am just trying to say that I don't see myself coming back to LBP3 for the reason that I simply don't want to, anymore - and I won't push me and force me into something/some game I don't want to play it... I left the game for the bugs - but that's just me and MY reasons only.

And I didn't say LBP was dead. I just don't wanna play it anymore.

I really care about LBPC - that's why I am always coming back here to check the news and how's the community. I really like this forum, and I don't see myself quitting here, specially after the Dreams Sction was created.
2016-12-07 02:13:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


That's OK.

I meant other guys. They often say 'LBP is dead' and put the blame on others. They think LBP is dead and there is no other opinion than that. But that's wrong.

LBP3 still has many bugs. Less on PS3. More on PS4. I guess if we tell Sumo about these bugs, they will fix it.
2016-12-07 06:29:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I was thinking - why did the Spotlight stopped?
The Spotlight is one of the reasons LBPC got famous in-game, and consequently, out of the game, right?

I really never searched about it - the Spotlight Crew are composed by how many people? Are they all still active in the foru (and in-game)?
2016-12-08 18:21:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


Well.. for one reason, not many things are being entered into the Showcase.. and many of the team has moved on. There are still some around here that pop in from time to time, but again... most have moved on due to not much happening or other interests.2016-12-09 00:08:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


That's not nice. That's not good.

There are some levels, that can be in the spotlight. Not only the Team picks, but also levels of the day.
2016-12-09 03:42:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Maybe what LBPC needs to do is rebuild the basic stuff, like the Spotlight Crew and the popularity of the site.
Instead of trying to make a epilogue for the history of the site, we whould try to create a new chapter - which means...

We need new people in the site. New players from LBP3... I am sure they are somewhere in the game. Maybe StevenI could help with advertising LBPC in-game... maybe not - but that's worth trying anyway.

I remember that a friend of mine showcased my LBP2 level years ago. I got a message from LBPC account saying something like "Congrats! your level was spotlighted in 'Spotlight 67!' ". That's how I knew LBPC existed. If it weren's for him, I wouldn't even be here now
2016-12-09 04:51:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


Good idea. We need to find some new members. I will advertise for this site in the game.2016-12-09 10:49:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Just tossing in my two cents. The main reasons why we haven't been Spotlighting boils down to around 2 things..

1: We need more levels in the level showcase. This is absolutely needed, if we have no levels to Spotlight then, well.. what's the need?

2: Most of my Crew mates have either moved on to other things or dropped off the map completely. I tried reaching out to a few of them personally. Most were too busy, or I didn't get a reply at all..

Still, I really would love to get the Spotlights and Contest going again one day.
I'm not sure what the future will hold on these subjects but I have hope it'll be bright!
2016-12-10 13:35:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


Well, if trying something is still valid, what left of the Spotlight Crew could start checking if you'd have StevenI support in-game, and if yes, then trying to recruit some people to the crew. Then you could make a level-hub in-game with the levels that came after the last Spotlight. There are just a few levels, yeah, but still something for one or two episodos, right?...

Of course you'd have to start smaller - only doing LBP3's spotlight for example.
2016-12-12 21:15:00

Author:
cakito123
Posts: 353


I don't think there are no good levels. Many good ones still come out.2016-12-14 02:43:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I don't think there are no good levels. Many good ones still come out.

Yeah, like my levels.
2016-12-16 05:56:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Advertising for yourself isn't a shame. I didn't play your levels, but I think you are a good creator.

I am still creating in LBPV and LBP3.

We need new members in the crew, who have time to play LBP. At least 2 hours per day. LBP3 does have many many sections. Level of the day, best rated level of the day/week/month and so on. I still find good levels in LBP Vita with this. And we also need some sections about level type maybe. Like this:

January:
10 good levels of the month

February:
10 good platformers

March:
10 good LBP films

April:
10 good TopDown shooter

May:
10 good rpgs

June:
10 good hangout levels
...

I think with some new crew members, who still have time and want to play LBP this could work. I know, I know, everyone has a reallife, but how I already said: Don't put the blame on others and at least try. So do I. I don't think I could be in the crew. I mostly create in LBP3. But I could start to play more levels and recommend some of them here.
2016-12-16 06:35:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Nobody wants the community to be like it was back in the heyday more than me. I loved my time on the Spotlight Crew and being asked to join was probably one of my greatest and happiest memories of being a community member. I really would love to do it again or help train new people but I honestly don't see the need for it really. I hate to say this because of how much doing the Spotlights meant to me but I don't see them as a viable option at this stage of the game.

I hate to be that "Debbie Downer" but there just isn't a lot of activity (level posting wise) to do a spotlight. Even if we went to a monthly schedule, there were only 10 levels posted in the showcase and I'm not sure any of those would be a full on spotlight. I don't want to lower our standards to be able to have a couple of levels spotlighted. Know what I mean? Even expanding from the showcase and including the "recommended" section and even going out on our own and looking through LBP.me (which is a lot, A LOT, of work/time) there isn't much to find that would meet our expectations of a "spotlighted" level. I peruse the new ingame tabs every time I'm on and the Level of the Day is more often than not, a Team Picked level or some other level that everyone has seen and already has 50 million plays. What would be the point in Spotlighting those? The "Recommended For You" tab are levels that everyone has already played and seen a number of times. There are occasionally a few good ones but a lot of the times I'm like, "Why is this crap in my list?"

Even though I don't play as often as I did, I still look on LBP.me every single day for good levels to play. I'll go 30-40 pages deep on the "New LBP3" levels section and maybe, maybe find 3 or 4 levels that have potential and maybe one of those would be a NOD. I'll look in the Trending section and go 30 pages deep and see that Team Picked levels, "Free DLC costume" and levels that already have 10s of thousands of plays, dominate those pages.

Like I said, I really don't see the need for a return of the Spotlights for LBP. I don't believe it would increase activity on the site by much. I think if we ran some contests, create contests, that would draw some traffic. Some. I think those would do more than bringing back the Spotlights. And who knows, if a contest brought more people then maybe more levels would be posted and it would make sense to do Spotlights again.
2016-12-16 13:20:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


I understand that.

I really know what you mean, but you're saying it wrong. There is not less activity. It's almost the same. There are many bad levels, but also levels with potential.

Don't want to argue about it. At the end the community decides.
2016-12-16 14:43:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


There's still a lot of activity, but a lot less dedicated creators. Also, not many people use the forums now. A lot use the playstation communities (which i hate. Ugh! Could have been so much better)2016-12-17 04:06:00

Author:
koltonaugust
Posts: 1382


Yeah.. I am not a fan of the playstation communities. Single thread conversations... basically a spam can. Even if something is said that is important.. you may never find it.

I feel Sony's entire intention was to try to keep you on and going back to your PS4. Not a bad idea from a marketing and involvement perspective, but the execution of it fell flat.

As far as spotlights... I am leaving that notion to the spotlight team. We still have a few team members here and if they feel there is some levels to spotlight that exceed their high standards... then their might be one. Possibly a quarterly one, if at all. ... but up to them.

Now to get a bit back on topic.. our future. That is the topic after all...

So far I have had some great suggestions and I have done most of them. I've seen quite a bit more traffic in the Dreams section which is cool.

The other sections seem to have fallen flat.. mostly because we are not known for other games, but I felt those of you that are here that had interest in that regard might enjoy a few dedicated sections to those other games.
2016-12-17 14:08:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of the other game sections. I'm not against them or anything since they are below, but if anything it seems like it would divide our community posts up rather than get new people. I'm still very much recommending a help section on the top forum with tags for which game you are posting about. There isn't a significant quantity of posts to the help sections, so I don't think one big one would be all that bad. Plus most help articles apply to all LBP games (unless you are using a specific tool).2016-12-18 06:42:00

Author:
koltonaugust
Posts: 1382


For the other random creative games sub-forums... I would suggest combining it into a single sub-forum for all other creative games. Dreams can keep it's own sub-form for now however.2016-12-18 07:05:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I dont think LBP games will stop being made-however I think there would need to be some kind of Dream's section. I know its LBP Central, but at the very least I think we are all MM fans and the site may have to adjust to accommodate their games and future LBP titles(hopefully).

Would kinda suck if LBPC goes down. What on earth will I do at work?
2016-12-18 15:42:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


I dont think LBP games will stop being made-however I think there would need to be some kind of Dream's section.

You mean like this one?

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?227-Dreams
2016-12-18 19:36:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


You mean like this one?

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?227-Dreams

Haha! Yep, we got one already!
2016-12-18 20:55:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I will keep an eye out for good levels.

- - - - - - - - - -

I still make levels and I am still motivated. Sometimes I am playing different games, because I am not motivated. Than I watch videos and play other levels and than I am motivated again.
2016-12-19 10:32:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


You mean like this one?

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?227-Dreams



Haha! Yep, we got one already!

Wow, yea apparently I posted there and everything lol
2016-12-19 13:54:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


I've honestly never lost motivation before. To be honest, the only reason I've stopped playing often is for my own two reasons, (most of which are entirely my fault):

1.)I'm a lonely person, I used to play with quite few other people, but I just don't do that anymore.

2.)Every time I turn my Ps3 on, it sounds like it's going to blow up.

(It's really early, why am a writing this?)
2016-12-20 06:04:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Everytime I turn on my PS3 it sounds like a exploding baby. Ugly. :O

But I still use it though.
2016-12-20 10:52:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I've honestly never lost motivation before. To be honest, the only reason I've stopped playing often is for my own two reasons, (most of which are entirely my fault):

1.)I'm a lonely person, I used to play with quite few other people, but I just don't do that anymore.

2.)Every time I turn my Ps3 on, it sounds like it's going to blow up.

(It's really early, why am a writing this?)


Yeah. The motivation for me has never disappeared either, but things have come up and life has been going on.Time eludes me! And maybe a little drive due to so much time being taken from me due to the other stuff.

Though, you should probably clean that thing out if it's making noises like that.
2016-12-21 14:40:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


My time on the crew has mostly overseen the PSP side of things. I saw the PSP game dwindle in activity until we had (if we were lucky) 1 or 2 levels posted in the level showcase every two weeks--most of which were bad. Eventually, 5 levels were posted over 6 weeks. This simply was not enough material to make a spotlight--and further, it showed there was not enough interest in the community to keep a spotlight going for PSP.

It seems the same is happening with LBP3.


I cringe at my memories of my 15 year old self here

Same
2016-12-21 17:38:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654


My time on the crew has mostly overseen the PSP side of things. I saw the PSP game dwindle in activity until we had (if we were lucky) 1 or 2 levels posted in the level showcase every two weeks--most of which were bad. Eventually, 5 levels were posted over 6 weeks. This simply was not enough material to make a spotlight--and further, it showed there was not enough interest in the community to keep a spotlight going for PSP.

It seems the same is happening with LBP3.



Same


Heh, I remember having a LittleBigPlanet Psp, but I my Psp didn't have access to the internet, so I wasn't able to play community levels. A shame, really. I have bought and downloaded LittleBigPlanet Psp on my Ps vita a few months back, so I have been able to play a couple of community levels now.
2016-12-27 05:41:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


we ded2017-03-24 01:32:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I don't know what you wanted to say, but I personally don't think LBP is dead. This site here could be way more interesting fof new LBP players, if there was activity. More posts my members here and this place would be more interesting.2017-03-24 04:21:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I also think that LBP isn't dead at all! There just seems to be a little renaissance! When has been the last time that a game like Pin<>Ball by blacksnakewhite1
https://lbp.me/v/q05myd-/trailer?p=1&l=12
has got more than 8000 plays without having been team picked?
Now its our turn to interest new players for our forum!
DeKay1980, known as the green bunny, is just doing a spotlight series on his youtube channel! One video is about one of his own levels and there he is not only showing the level itself but also the editor and the composition of the level parts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGZHmCdJ4YM
His series is German spoken, but I think that this could be a fine idea for an English spoken version.

Many greetings, Jürgen^^
2017-03-24 08:02:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


I agree, Jürgen! LBP isn't dead. Many new players joined recently. But I have the feeling that some members here got lazy the last two years.2017-03-24 13:57:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I don't think that people have become lazy here, nobody could anticipate that SONY would offer lbp3 for PS+ gamers and nobody could anticipate that this really would bring lots of new players! This has been a little bit unexpected! And even though there seems to be an increasing interest of new players for LBP3 theres still the question which perspective the game has! Will it end with lbp3 and then disappear? Or will there be a sequel?
Will Dreams prove to be the Sangrail of sandbox games or not?
I think that whatever the future will bring we have something to offer to the "new generation" of lbp gamers! Our skills and experience and this is what we could share with them so that they can get a little help in discovering the wonders of this fantastic game!

Many greetings, Jürgen^^
2017-03-24 14:39:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


I agree, Jürgen! LBP isn't dead. Many new players joined recently. But I have the feeling that some members here got lazy the last two years.


Yes. I am very lazy.

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2017-03-24 19:20:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


I don't know what you mean, sir.

Is it difficult, to take a look at some projects and maybe take 5 minutes to write your thoughts down? I personally want to understand that. And yes, people have a real life and life can be challenging and even more than that. But this can't be the normal state, or is it?
2017-03-24 19:52:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Hi Domenic, time to calm down a bit, Sir_monacle is one of our active members here! I think that laziness is the wrong word, everybody has to decide for himself how much time and energy he wants to invest in community activity! Most of the members here had their times when they've been active, maybe its time that the new generation of lbp players could discover community activity as a possibility to intensify the gaming experience. Maybe we shoulld spread our positive experience with lbp communities to make new players curious.2017-03-24 20:48:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


Hi Domenic, time to calm down a bit, Sir_monacle is one of our active members here! I think that laziness is the wrong word, everybody has to decide for himself how much time and energy he wants to invest in community activity! Most of the members here had their times when they've been active, maybe its time that the new generation of lbp players could discover community activity as a possibility to intensify the gaming experience. Maybe we shoulld spread our positive experience with lbp communities to make new players curious.

Wait, I'm active here?

Thank you for your kind words CuriousSack! I honestly think a lot of older LittleBigPlanet Central users are coming back, which is always nice to see. Although, as people come and go, it's good to see this old forum website still up and running, even though a lot more popular ones are doing much better. The best way to get more people visiting would be to hold some interesting contests, that don't have prizes, like a costume contest, or something. The new "other" section in this forum is a nice touch, even though it didn't grab much attention. Either way, I'm sure more people will come eventually.
2017-03-24 21:09:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


I wasn't upset though.

LBP was always a great game for me. I never stopped playing it. I played it at least one time in the week. Not, because I am addicted, but because LBP never really disapointed me. Yes, there were many profile corruptions and bugs, that ruined it, but the next day the bad feeling was gone.

And if it isn't lazyness, what else could it be? This post goes a lot into the moral direction, but this always happens with those discussions.

All I was saying was, that activity would maybe bring people on this site. Creation contests, spotlights, maybe challenges like in LBP3 itself. That would be fun.

Please don't hate me or ban me for saying, that LittleBigForum made some things right. They made the LBFC5 contest, new spotlights and some new LBP players and LBP veterans that didn't knew the forums before, signed in there.

I don't want to say, that jw didn't do enough. He was doing at least something here, but the members (including myself) didn't do much more.

While I still like this forum here, visit it everyday, post about projects and answer to others, some guys can't complain about this forum to be dead while they don't do the least to achieve a different state. I don't mean sir monacle, Jww, CuriousSack or Venat, I mean some others, that actually say, that this forum is dead.

Can we may finish this conversation?
2017-03-25 05:27:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I wasn't upset though.

LBP was always a great game for me. I never stopped playing it. I played it at least one time in the week. Not, because I am addicted, but because LBP never really disapointed me. Yes, there were many profile corruptions and bugs, that ruined it, but the next day the bad feeling was gone.

And if it isn't lazyness, what else could it be? This post goes a lot into the moral direction, but this always happens with those discussions.

All I was saying was, that activity would maybe bring people on this site. Creation contests, spotlights, maybe challenges like in LBP3 itself. That would be fun.

Please don't hate me or ban me for saying, that LittleBigForum made some things right. They made the LBFC5 contest, new spotlights and some new LBP players and LBP veterans that didn't knew the forums before, signed in there.

I don't want to say, that jw didn't do enough. He was doing at least something here, but the members (including myself) didn't do much more.

While I still like this forum here, visit it everyday, post about projects and answer to others, some guys can't complain about this forum to be dead while they don't do the least to achieve a different state. I don't mean sir monacle, Jww, CuriousSack or Venat, I mean some others, that actually say, that this forum is dead.

Can we may finish this conversation?


This forum isn't dead yet. Well, at least I'm not. I can understand what you're saying, but let's turn the viewpoint in the other direction. Many people have been on this website since 2008, when LittleBigPlanet was a new thing, and as much as I'd hate to admit it, as time passes people are bound to detach themselves from a video game, they may still remember the game fondly, but they're no longer able to take part in the LittleBigPlanet community. As for this forum website, it may not be as huge as others, but the mods are still very active! Jwwphotos (I think) has tried to incorporate new ideas into this forum, one of which was decided by the community. (The "other" games forum was an idea thought of by a LittleBigPlanet Central member.) Maybe we don't need the "dreams" community or the "other" games community to arrive, maybe we need to stick to what this website is called. LittleBigPlanet. Perhaps we could start new contests, guides and other good stuff for those happy gadders. From what I've noticed, most contests are only for LittleBigPlanet 3 now, so maybe we could go into the other direction?

Thank you for reading my wall of text. I still think there's a lot of hope for this forum website.
2017-03-25 06:54:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


That ending of your text. 2017-03-25 09:53:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


This forum isn't dead yet. Well, at least I'm not. I can understand what you're saying, but let's turn the viewpoint in the other direction. Many people have been on this website since 2008, when LittleBigPlanet was a new thing, and as much as I'd hate to admit it, as time passes people are bound to detach themselves from a video game, they may still remember the game fondly, but they're no longer able to take part in the LittleBigPlanet community. As for this forum website, it may not be as huge as others, but the mods are still very active! Jwwphotos (I think) has tried to incorporate new ideas into this forum, one of which was decided by the community. (The "other" games forum was an idea thought of by a LittleBigPlanet Central member.) Maybe we don't need the "dreams" community or the "other" games community to arrive, maybe we need to stick to what this website is called. LittleBigPlanet. Perhaps we could start new contests, guides and other good stuff for those happy gadders. From what I've noticed, most contests are only for LittleBigPlanet 3 now, so maybe we could go into the other direction?

Thank you for reading my wall of text. I still think there's a lot of hope for this forum website.

I agree.

Although there's been a decline within an span of years, this historical forum is still up and running for anybody to explore and enjoy!
I believe that this forum still has plenty of potential to what it was and still is (#1 fan-site for LittleBigPlanet). There just needs to be an nudge and push again so people can visit and see what's it all about!
2017-03-29 01:04:00

Author:
Boy
Posts: 35


I look at it as "one day at a time" and see what happens. 2017-03-29 14:27:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I look at it as "one day at a time" and see what happens.


Fair enough. I mostly do the very same thing, but maybe it's time to plan for the future?

I don't know anymore. The website is still running fairly, although the community is small. I wasn't exactly here when this website was lively, so to me the website has kind of stayed the same. I have seen a fair share people leave, though. I'm not entirely sure why someone would leave this website. It could be something more personal, or maybe they have just lost interest. Sadly due to the activity of this website there isn't a lot going for it, besides posting levels, and occasionally the odd thread. The forum games seem popular, though many people have left those too.

I have no idea what I've achieved in all of this, but maybe finding the route of the problem can help us solve it?
2017-03-31 06:16:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Fair enough. I mostly do the very same thing, but maybe it's time to plan for the future?

I don't know anymore. The website is still running fairly, although the community is small. I wasn't exactly here when this website was lively, so to me the website has kind of stayed the same. I have seen a fair share people leave, though. I'm not entirely sure why someone would leave this website. It could be something more personal, or maybe they have just lost interest. Sadly due to the activity of this website there isn't a lot going for it, besides posting levels, and occasionally the odd thread. The forum games seem popular, though many people have left those too.

I have no idea what I've achieved in all of this, but maybe finding the route of the problem can help us solve it?

That's the same with me! I joined LBF in April 2014, and joined this site in November 2014, during the LBP3 era of the site. I never got to see this site very lively, but I did see a lot of activity after E3 2014(LBP3 announcement) and right before LBP3 launched and during the BETA. It seems that over the past 2 years, the disappoint with LBP3 has virtually wiped out the community. But it's not because of LBP3. The LBP series, as sad as it is for me to say, had already been dying since LBP2. LBP3 was an appreciated(especially be me) attempt to bring back the community, but ultimately if failed .
2017-03-31 08:07:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Fair enough. I mostly do the very same thing, but maybe it's time to plan for the future?

...which is why I created this thread.
2017-03-31 17:10:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


LBP3 couldn't bring the old members back, but it could atract new players, especially when LBP3 was for free in february.

I joined in 2013. Somewhere in 2015 this site was offline for a long time. Many joined LBF, LBN and so on. Through a member of the lbp hub forum I remembered this site.

I have to say, that this site was a big platform for any LBP player. I shared a LBP Vita level here and after 2 days it already had 250 plays, which was great for a LBP Vita level.

LBP3's negative site, the long time where this site was offline and the real life of some important people caused this down.

But it's the past. We need to focus on the future. We need to focus on LBP players. The other game sections are OK, but LBP is the main topic here.

Creation contests, spotlight contests and some advertisment would probably bring some guys over here. It's not a 100% strategy, but it could work.
2017-03-31 20:02:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Creation contests, spotlight contests and some advertisment would probably bring some guys over here. It's not a 100% strategy, but it could work.


I definitely think that a costume contest, or a pod contest could bring people here mainly because it's different. A lot of websites focus on levels and photos when it comes to LittleBigPlanet contests, so it would definitely be something different. We may have to start out small, though.
2017-03-31 20:39:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Yes.. more contests.. sure, that gets a bit of a rise at times. We could stand lots of things like that in fact.

I used to help run and then lead one of the longest running contests in LBP, the Caption Contest. Tons of fun.. There were others like the Sticker contests, Costume contests, Pod contests, tons of level contests and one of my favorites, the Creature Contest. Also shared in a few sites one of the most famous, the Contraption Challenge. Tons of fun for everyone!!

We had a great core of involved creators that were doing all this work, which is running all these contests and judging them. ...and trust me, it is long hard work. For example, being the lead of the Creator Spotlight, helping create sets, special effects, creating all the videos we did, even took a hand at the editing on a few.. That was long hard tireless work that lasted quite a bit of time.

So yup.. I agree. It is all these things that would help make us more vibrant.

...but we need worthy volunteers to run them
2017-04-01 17:10:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I would be there to record videos of the levels. I would also create objects for the spotlight levels. I would also play levels and suggest some of them, if they are good enough.

Count me in. What about you, Jürgen? Would you create music, if needed?
2017-04-01 18:05:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Hahaha, if this would be the only thing to do, then you could count me in! ;p
But seriously, I'm always willing to help, if its for our forum!
2017-04-01 18:43:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


I will do nothing! Wait, that's not quite right.


I honestly have no idea as to what I'm good at, so I guess I shall watch the terror unfold.

Unless you have an idea in mind, as I would be happy to help. Don't let me touch music though, I'm more of a listener.
2017-04-01 20:41:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


I feel that LBP3 could've benefited if there were more crown contests. I believe the best way for us to hold more of these crown contests is to see if we can make contact with Sumo or staff members, so that we can hold community events. Getting in touch with Sumo on twitter could help.2017-04-01 23:52:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I feel that LBP3 could've benefited if there were more crown contests. I believe the best way for us to hold more of these crown contests is to see if we can make contact with Sumo or staff members, so that we can hold community events. Getting in touch with Sumo on twitter could help.

Doesn't StevenI check the forums every now and then or something?

We may have to start small, though.
2017-04-02 06:14:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


I liked the pod contests and the costume contests.2017-04-02 11:07:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I feel that LBP3 could've benefited if there were more crown contests. I believe the best way for us to hold more of these crown contests is to see if we can make contact with Sumo or staff members, so that we can hold community events. Getting in touch with Sumo on twitter could help.

I can reach out to him at some point, though I am not really sure how vested Sumo even is at this point. However... the staff to run, judge, and do all the other bits that has to happen to run an effective contest comes first.
2017-04-02 13:46:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I can reach out to him at some point, though I am not really sure how vested Sumo even is at this point. However... the staff to run, judge, and do all the other bits that has to happen to run an effective contest comes first.

It's kind of funny, the problem we're trying to solve is the problem to finding the solution.

What I mean is, there's not a lot of people around, so we really need whoever we can find - there's not a lot of people to choose from.

People here seem happy to help in whatever way they can, but what skills are we looking for here, down to the bare basics?
2017-04-02 13:58:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


It's kind of funny, the problem we're trying to solve is the problem to finding the solution.

What I mean is, there's not a lot of people around, so we really need whoever we can find - there's not a lot of people to choose from.

People here seem happy to help in whatever way they can, but what skills are we looking for here, down to the bare basics?

Now you are starting to see what I have been saying. ...but to answer your question.

Leadership.. and being able to take a task and run with it to successful completion. It takes quite a bit of work and commitment to run a successful contest and you can't take the role lightly. We've had many all excited to start one and then disappear at the first shiny object.
2017-04-02 14:07:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Now you are starting to see what I have been saying. ...but to answer your question.

Leadership.. and being able to take a task and run with it to successful completion. It takes quite a bit of work and commitment to run a successful contest and you can't take the role lightly. We've had many all excited to start one and then disappear at the first shiny object.

Thanks! I'm definitely too slow for this sort-of thing, but what I meant was:

What do we need to run a competition (Be fair judge, somebody who can edit and record footage of the levels, a hub, etc)?
2017-04-02 14:25:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


You need someone to lead the team or contest, though there are a few of the contest crew still around at times that might help... an idea of what to do and do it.

You don't really need to record footage of levels or a hub. Might be nice, but that is just extra work. Actually could detract from the level itself as those interested can just play the level and talk about it here.
2017-04-02 14:35:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


You need someone to lead the team or contest, though there are a few of the contest crew still around at times that might help... an idea of what to do and do it.

You don't really need to record footage of levels or a hub. Might be nice, but that is just extra work. Actually could detract from the level itself as those interested can just play the level and talk about it here.

Well, I have no idea who would be a good leader if we make a contest.

Other than the creator of this website and the moderators, who do ya' think would be a good leader?

don't you point the finger at me! To be a "good" leader you need to be good with people. Though, if we all put a good effort into it, would we really need a leader?
2017-04-02 14:59:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


lol... "if we all put a good effort into it"

...which is how we arrived here now. At the very least, you need to have a dedicated staff that is here online doing the work. It takes a bit of commitment. Too many times we have had contests where the organizer got bored and never did anything. That doesn't help anyone. If you do it.. you have to do it.

It isn't that hard, just takes organization and some dedication / work. ..and seems like even you are shying away from the thought.
2017-04-02 15:20:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Let me guess, they aren't that active anymore, right?

I don't think I could lead everything, but I'm always ready to help out here and there.
2017-04-02 16:53:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


A few are sorta active, but not very many. In fact if you look at the bottom stats, only 37 members have even looked at this thread.2017-04-02 17:09:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


A few are sorta active, but not very many. In fact if you look at the bottom stats, only 37 members have even looked at this thread.

Yeah, I've been wanting to ask about that for quite awhile. I keep getting the silver activity award amongst some others, yet I'm not entirely sure as to why.

So, uhh. Why?
2017-04-02 17:48:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


When you run around in a nearly empty supermarket, you're bound run into just yourself and just a few others, more than anyone else.

2017-04-02 18:31:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


When you run around in a nearly empty supermarket, you're bound to run into just yourself and just a few others, more than anyone else.



I'm not entirely sure on what that means, but I'll live by it.
2017-04-02 19:40:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Left out a few words... sorry. Read again 2017-04-02 19:54:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Hello everyone!
It was a long time I didn?t join to the forum, I signed this afternoon very confident to found new users due to the psn+ subscription gift of February. However, I found this post surfing arround the forum and my feelings went wrong. Despite of it, I had become to understand why my old psn friends didn?t play LBP3. You need PSN+ and the game is not same since Mm left the game.

In my opinion, I think that this forum has gone as far as the game, and that?s pretty good.
Cheers!
2017-04-04 18:34:00

Author:
Kaumy
Posts: 63


Well, the sad truth is... that LBP is DEAD. It's been dead since LBP2. LBP3 was just an extra add-on that expanded LBP's lifespan slightly longer. The problem's with the LBP series were long before LBP3. Copied levels, messed up community(not fansites, but h4hs, spammers, copiers), etc. In fact, LBP3 having backwards compatibility might have been a bad thing, since all the copied levels from LBP1/LBP2 came to LBP3. The search system was mess, online sucked(even in LBP1/LBP2), it was impossible for new creators to get their creations recognized, etc. LBP was already completely dead by LBP2


Nnnnnope!

LittleBigPlanet isn't dead, and these "spammers" are still active members of the community, no? Believe it or not, but there actually quite a lot people in LittleBigPlanet 1, and there's even more in LittleBigPlanet 2. Also, that "spammer" thing started in 2008, the Metal gear solid pack broke the fourth wall by being based on it. Now, it is hard to get recognised if you're a new creator, there isn't any lies there, but I think that's missing the point of LittleBigPlanet. The play counter is just a number. Nothing more. There hearts counter is just a number. Nothing more. That's also more down to the people who play your level anyway, as there has always been a "new level" section. I personally thought that LittleBigPlanet 2's payer and level search system was fine. It did what it needed to, and LittleBigPlanet 2's player search system was much better than the player search system in the first game.



I don't think LittleBigPlanet is dead, and I disagree with you in certain areas. M'kay?
2017-04-05 05:56:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Nnnnnope!

LittleBigPlanet isn't dead, and these "spammers" are still active members of the community, no? Believe it or not, but there actually quite a lot people in LittleBigPlanet 1, and there's even more in LittleBigPlanet 2. Also, that "spammer" thing started in 2008, the Metal gear solid pack broke the fourth wall by being based on it. Now, it is hard to get recognised if you're a new creator, there isn't any lies there, but I think that's missing the point of LittleBigPlanet. The play counter is just a number. Nothing more. There hearts counter is just a number. Nothing more. That's also more down to the people who play your level anyway, as there has always been a "new level" section. I personally thought that LittleBigPlanet 2's payer and level search system was fine. It did what it needed to, and LittleBigPlanet 2's player search system was much better than the player search system in the first game.



I don't think LittleBigPlanet is dead, and I disagree with you in certain areas. M'kay?

I apologize for that comment. I was in a bad mood yesterday/last night and just started typing random stuff as a cry for attention. I've deleted that comment. We definitely shouldn't be wasting time arguing if LBP is dead or not. We should be trying to find ways for us to come together as a community(especially LBPC) and work together with Sumo to hold new community events. LBP3 still has a large community. Yeah, my mind was all flustered last night, and I typed something controversial so everyone would notice, so I apologize for that comment and my immaturity. I'm still a kid, so I can be immature sometimes.
2017-04-05 10:29:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Hahaha, you are forgiven! And I agree with you, we should find ways to come together! 2017-04-05 17:00:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


I apologize for that comment. I was in a bad mood yesterday/last night and just started typing random stuff as a cry for attention. I've deleted that comment. We definitely shouldn't be wasting time arguing if LBP is dead or not. We should be trying to find ways for us to come together as a community(especially LBPC) and work together with Sumo to hold new community events. LBP3 still has a large community. Yeah, my mind was all flustered last night, and I typed something controversial so everyone would notice, so I apologize for that comment and my immaturity. I'm still a kid, so I can be immature sometimes.


That's fine. I personally enjoyed the conversation.

Anybody have any ideas to help this site gain some popularity? Cause I don't!
2017-04-05 17:43:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


That's fine. I personally enjoyed the conversation.

Anybody have any ideas to help this site gain some popularity? Cause I don't!

Thanks! I had actually made a similar immature post a couple years ago. It was in February 2015, when I made a thread about the "New Levels Section" and how I believed it would ruin LBP3. Thankfully jwwphotos, the staff, and everyone else told me exactly what you just said, and to not think too much about the state of LBP but more about what we can do to improve, and make levels for everyone to enjoy. LBP is definitely not dead, far from it actually!

@jwwphotos and @Sir monacle
I actually have some ideas that we, as a site could do. First, I think we need to make contact/collaboration with Sumo/StevenI. The system I'm thinking of is actually something similar to "Team Picks" and "Level of the Day". If we could ask Sumo to implement major fansites into the search system, and for us to have a "Pick system" of our own. We would no longer need to have LBP Spotlight levels, although it would still be fine to have more of those. There would be an actually in-game level section, right next to "Team Picks" and "Level of the Day" that would say "LBPCentral's Picks".

The only other fansites of LBP I know that are still active aside from here(LBPC) are LittleBigNetwork(LBN), LittleBigForum(LBF), and Sackinima. If we can collaborate with these fansites, we can get a "Level Pick Section" for all of these fansites to showcase levels. We could submit a plan to Sumo for the whole blueprint of this project. 5-10 picks of levels, need to be submitted by fansites, every Friday(similar to MM Picks). It doesn't have to be exactly like that, but something similar to that. I could see this going smoothly if we can get in touch with Sumo and StevenI on twitter. We can have a whole new spotlight crew, that like mdkd has emphasized, would only be for engaged members in our community. I can see CuriousSack, Sir monacle, mdkd, biorogue, fireblitz95, and a few other members on this site doing it. This will make life easier and more successful of less recognized creators, as long as they're levels have been posted here either by them, or recommended by someone else..

TLDR: We need to find a way to contact Sumo, so that they can have an in-game update that will actually implement level sections for fansites. Although I feel that if the other fansites aren't engaged in this, we should just focus all our resources on getting a level section just for LBPC. This isn't a post against StevenI, and I know that finding good levels every week for Team Picks can be hard for them. That's why I think the community should take over the "level-picking" system, to send to Sumo.

Also, getting crown contests back is definitely another project we can focus on.
2017-04-06 00:02:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Thanks! I had actually made a similar immature post a couple years ago. It was in February 2015, when I made a thread about the "New Levels Section" and how I believed it would ruin LBP3. Thankfully jwwphotos, the staff, and everyone else told me exactly what you just said, and to not think too much about the state of LBP but more about what we can do to improve, and make levels for everyone to enjoy. LBP is definitely not dead, far from it actually!

@jwwphotos and @Sir monacle
I actually have some ideas that we, as a site could do. First, I think we need to make contact/collaboration with Sumo/StevenI. The system I'm thinking of is actually something similar to "Team Picks" and "Level of the Day". If we could ask Sumo to implement major fansites into the search system, and for us to have a "Pick system" of our own. We would no longer need to have LBP Spotlight levels, although it would still be fine to have more of those. There would be an actually in-game level section, right next to "Team Picks" and "Level of the Day" that would say "LBPCentral's Picks".

The only other fansites of LBP I know that are still active aside from here(LBPC) are LittleBigNetwork(LBN), LittleBigForum(LBF), and Sackinima. If we can collaborate with these fansites, we can get a "Level Pick Section" for all of these fansites to showcase levels. We could submit a plan to Sumo for the whole blueprint of this project. 5-10 picks of levels, need to be submitted by fansites, every Friday(similar to MM Picks). It doesn't have to be exactly like that, but something similar to that. I could see this going smoothly if we can get in touch with Sumo and StevenI on twitter. We can have a whole new spotlight crew, that like mdkd has emphasized, would only be for engaged members in our community. I can see CuriousSack, Sir monacle, mdkd, biorogue, fireblitz95, and a few other members on this site doing it. This will make life easier and more successful of less recognized creators, as long as they're levels have been posted here either by them, or recommended by someone else..

TLDR: We need to find a way to contact Sumo, so that they can have an in-game update that will actually implement level sections for fansites. Although I feel that if the other fansites aren't engaged in this, we should just focus all our resources on getting a level section just for LBPC. This isn't a post against StevenI, and I know that finding good levels every week for Team Picks can be hard for them. That's why I think the community should take over the "level-picking" system, to send to Sumo.

Also, getting crown contests back is definitely another project we can focus on.


Although that is a very interesting idea, I don't think Sumo digital would be willing to make a whole section for li'l ol' us!
I think sumo digital is done with LittleBigPlanet, as they're moving on to other games. Although a collaboration with the other sites would be nice! Maybe they could teach us the things we don't know about making a contest (which, for me at least, is everything). LittleBigForums do show their contests every now and then on this website, which means they're definitely still active. (They're also way larger than this website. Way bigger. We're like a pebble in contrast.)


It would be nice if it ever happens, though I guess we're both a little na?ve.
2017-04-06 06:20:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Let's focus on another EyeCandy contest. A small one. Futuristic citys could be great. But before that we need to advertise this forum in LBP. LBF (Which I am a part of now) advertises it through the spotlight episodes and some contests. Waffleking is a great member of LBPC. He plays some good levels and shares it here with us. He should be a part of those guys who plays levels. I am not the guy to judge about it as a leader, but I recommend giving Waffleking the opportunity to play levels and write reviews in the name of LBPC itself.2017-04-06 15:38:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Let's focus on another EyeCandy contest. A small one. Futuristic citys could be great. But before that we need to advertise this forum in LBP. LBF (Which I am a part of now) advertises it through the spotlight episodes and some contests. Waffleking is a great member of LBPC. He plays some good levels and shares it here with us. He should be a part of those guys who plays levels. I am not the guy to judge about it as a leader, but I recommend giving Waffleking the opportunity to play levels and write reviews in the name of LBPC itself.

I agree. I wish they would also bring back Contraption contests, theme contests, holiday contests, and all those things from the old days in LBP. I feel like Sumo needs to bring back the crown or something like it. The crown was every LBP player's dream back on LBP2 and LBP1, but now it seems it has died off. Hopefully Sumo can bring something back that will have the same feeling/desire that the crown had.
2017-04-06 21:07:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Hey guys, just throwing out another idea,

We should span out more into Social Media, such as Twitter. We have a site account, yet we never use it! We could advertise Contests, help promote our site, and be an all around beacon of light for the Community.
2017-04-08 01:46:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


Hey guys, just throwing out another idea,

We should span out more into Social Media, such as Twitter. We have a site account, yet we never use it! We could advertise Contests, help promote our site, and be an all around beacon of light for the Community.

So, you've probably had this site account since 2008, haven't you?

How come nobody has mentioned it up until now?
2017-04-08 05:48:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


So, you've probably had this site account since 2008, haven't you?

How come nobody has mentioned it up until now?

https://mobile.twitter.com/lbpcentral?lang=en
Not sure how old it is, but it has around 1,900 followers. Though, I honestly don't know who has access to it at the moment. I assume Jww or maybe an older Admin?

https://mobile.twitter.com/LBPCentralHub
We also have our Hubbie account, which has around 600 followers. Though, I definitely don't know who has access to this account. I used to help run it with Hubbie and other fellow Crew Members, however, the password was changed and I don't exactly know the current one..
2017-04-08 06:14:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


I have the twitter account.. I've used it every so often when we are down for one reason or another. ..given the fact there is not many active here on this site, I haven't bothered recently. Plus there haven't been that many issues that I haven't caught in a decent amount of time.

I would be happy to use it to advertise a contest or whatever. However, if no one steps up to run with any of these ideas or contests, there is nothing to advertise. Unless any of you can convince me otherwise.

Just like back in high school.. the Seniors all graduated and moved on to other games and life. It is time for others to step up. If none of you... then maybe it is time to pull the plug and save myself some $$.

Sorry for the harsh thoughts, but it seems some of you need a reality check. Nothing will happen here unless we have volunteers to do the work and mostly we need leaders, not followers.
2017-04-08 13:37:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I think that jwwphotos is right, we can discuss endlessly about the future or we can start the future! So who is willing to help? I have no experience with initiating and coordinating a contest, but otherwise... even though I'm not young anymore, I'm still able to learn!
Give me a week and I will think about some things and then I hope that there will be some other hands willing to work, so that we can offer something to all the new players around!
2017-04-08 16:35:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


I have the twitter account.. I've used it every so often when we are down for one reason or another. ..given the fact there is not many active here on this site, I haven't bothered recently. Plus there haven't been that many issues that I haven't caught in a decent amount of time.

I would be happy to use it to advertise a contest or whatever. However, if no one steps up to run with any of these ideas or contests, there is nothing to advertise. Unless any of you can convince me otherwise.

Just like back in high school.. the Seniors all graduated and moved on to other games and life. It is time for others to step up. If none of you... then maybe it is time to pull the plug and save myself some $$.

Sorry for the harsh thoughts, but it seems some of you need a reality check. Nothing will happen here unless we have volunteers to do the work and mostly we need leaders, not followers.

Wow, that really sounded like you don't care anymore. I think if you really don't want to pay that bills Hanfi is ready to take them because he also runs LBP Hub.com

I never was a leader. But if tell us that nothing runs without a clear leader I am ready to learn fast. I personally had great memories and when this site went offline for some time in 2015 I was really sad because LBP is a big part in my life. I need to think about it, make some ideas, create rules and so on.
2017-04-08 17:09:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I think that jwwphotos is right, we can discuss endlessly about the future or we can start the future! So who is willing to help? I have no experience with initiating and coordinating a contest, but otherwise... even though I'm not young anymore, I'm still able to learn!
Give me a week and I will think about some things and then I hope that there will be some other hands willing to work, so that we can offer something to all the new players around!

I've got your back! I'll be more than happy to dedicate myself to this site once again! Working in the Spotlight Crew was possibly the funnest thing I've ever been a part of. If we get enough people to help it'll be great working with a group again.
2017-04-08 17:12:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


Wow, that really sounded like you don't care anymore. I think if you really don't want to pay that bills Hanfi is ready to take them because he also runs LBP Hub.com

I never was a leader. But if tell us that nothing runs without a clear leader I am ready to learn fast. I personally had great memories and when this site went offline for some time in 2015 I was really sad because LBP is a big part in my life. I need to think about it, make some ideas, create rules and so on.

I would seriously smack you if you were sitting here..

I have done more than my share around here for several years, running many of the contests, attractions like the Caption Contest and Creator Spotlights and all the videos, and now as the admin when even CC himself crashed this entire site into the wastelands and left it for sure death. I saved it from extinction several times and fixed the site when even CC and Aya could not repair the damage done to it from being hacked not once, but twice... including an invasion of some 30,000 bots that I got rid of by hand and countless other hacking attempts even as recent as a few weeks ago.

What I was trying to do was simply say... DO SOMETHING. Otherwise you are all just talking and wanting someone else to do the work.

Back in the day we had lots of creators working tirelessly to run the Spotlights, the Creator Spotlights, the Contest Crew, as well as the amazing mods we have had. That was a lot of people. More people that even visit this site on a daily basis to make all that happen.

So before you point your finger and tell me I am the reason... remember.. that is 4 fingers pointing back at you and most of you haven't done one thing or even contributed to running this site for a second.

The reason I run this site is for the love this site has always given myself and so many others. ..but I can't do it by myself. I am just one person. To do all everyone is wanting, contests, spotlights, etc. takes at least 10 - 20 dedicated individuals doing their fair share and doing it to a very high standard.

We have been blessed over the years to have that much commitment to this site, many of them very dear friends. But without a huge staff doing all the things you are suggesting.. it is a vacant amusement park and no one to even run the slushy machine.
2017-04-08 19:19:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I would seriously smack you if you were sitting here..

I have done more than my share around here for several years, running many of the contests, attractions like the Caption Contest and Creator Spotlights and all the videos, and now as the admin when even CC himself crashed this entire site into the wastelands and left it for sure death. I saved it from extinction several times and fixed the site when even CC and Aya could not repair the damage done to it from being hacked not once, but twice... including an invasion of some 30,000 bots that I got rid of by hand and countless other hacking attempts even as recent as a few weeks ago.

What I was trying to do was simply say... DO SOMETHING. Otherwise you are all just talking and wanting someone else to do the work.

Back in the day we had lots of creators working tirelessly to run the Spotlights, the Creator Spotlights, the Contest Crew, as well as the amazing mods we have had. That was a lot of people. More people that even visit this site on a daily basis to make all that happen.

So before you point your finger and tell me I am the reason... remember.. that is 4 fingers pointing back at you and most of you haven't done one thing or even contributed to running this site for a second.

The reason I run this site is for the love this site has always given myself and so many others. ..but I can't do it by myself. I am just one person. To do all everyone is wanting, contests, spotlights, etc. takes at least 10 - 20 dedicated individuals doing their fair share and doing it to a very high standard.

We have been blessed over the years to have that much commitment to this site, many of them very dear friends. But without a huge staff doing all the things you are suggesting.. it is a vacant amusement park and no one to even run the slushy machine.

Jwwphotos is right, mdkd. We need to be realistic with this. We need to factor in how many people we have to work with, and how many are actually dedicated. I admit, I'm more of a follower than a leader, so I'm definitely not qualified for this. But I think that we(us members, not the admin jwwphotos) should start reaching out to players on LBP3, LBP2, or any of the LBP games that people are still playing. We should message them and advertise that we need their help with community events, so that they will create LBPC accounts and start volunteering for positions. I can also see us reaching out to sites like LBF, LBN, and Sackinima for volunteers. We can't just dump everything on jwwphotos. We need to do this ourselves.

Admittedly, with our current user-base, we don't have what it takes to hold things like contests, reaching out to Sumo, etc. I feel if we can find ways to reach out to the LBP community, and if the LBP community is loud enough, we can finally reach Sumo.
2017-04-08 19:45:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Glad someone understands what I am saying..

I do care.. I am here to help and give dedicated individuals the tools to succeed, I will even use our twitter to help you when asked.

More on the topic...

Volunteerism is just that... volunteers doing lots of stuff and this site can only run with a group of amazing volunteers. Ask Bio or Fireblitz.. they know what I mean. True, some things can start with a small group, but too many times after a bit of work, poof... they are gone and so the dream dies.

Great things start with a small step, but nothing can be achieved without the 2nd and the desire to continue. - jww 2017 lol
2017-04-08 20:31:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Wait a seconds Jww, what I meant was, that you sounded like you didn't want to pay the bills for the forum anymore. Not that you didn't do anything. I guess I wrote my thoughts in a wrong way.

I am ready to organize a small EyeCandy contest with some guys who are willing to help with the ideas. But if you keep saying that you need much members to do that, I can't help with it anymore. One can't do everything, but even with less people you can organize some small contests.

We will need to advertise this forum. Are some of the old members of the LBPC crew still active? How active are they?
2017-04-08 22:08:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


Wait a seconds Jww, what I meant was, that you sounded like you didn't want to pay the bills for the forum anymore. Not that you didn't do anything. I guess I wrote my thoughts in a wrong way.

I am ready to organize a small EyeCandy contest with some guys who are willing to help with the ideas. But if you keep saying that you need much members to do that, I can't help with it anymore. One can't do everything, but even with less people you can organize some small contests.

We will need to advertise this forum. Are some of the old members of the LBPC crew still active? How active are they?

I think what jww means is that we really do need a solid team. It takes time and money to run this forum. Jwwphotos investing his time in "some guys who are willing to help" isn't enough(of a guarantee). We need experienced creators/members(from notable sites like LBF,LBN,Sackinima, or just players in LBP3) who will be dedicated to holding future events. It really does take a lot to run this forum, and jww is most likely only investing in events with people who are dedicated, will support this site, and move everyone forward.
2017-04-08 22:21:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I think what jww means is that we really do need a solid team. It takes time and money to run this forum. Jwwphotos investing his time in "some guys who are willing to help" isn't enough(of a guarantee). We need experienced creators/members(from notable sites like LBF,LBN,Sackinima, or just players in LBP3) who will be dedicated to holding future events. It really does take a lot to run this forum, and jww is most likely only investing in events with people who are dedicated, will support this site, and move everyone forward.

All I can here in the last posts here is 'It's hard to run everything'. I don't doubt it, but can we start focussing on the ideas we all have?

We need to:
- Organize a contest and the date of it so it doesn't get into the way of the other forum contests
- Thinking about a theme like 'easter scenery'
- Build a little hub for the 3 or 5 winners
- Think about the prizes (There is something like a 5$ psn card code or a award)
- Contact Steven to inform him about the contest
- Use socialmedia

'We need experienced creators/members (from notable sites like LBF, LBN, Sackinima...)' I am a member of the LittleBigForum crew. They invited me into the crew because I was a helpful person there with many ideas, that even made members write poste again.

I ain't gonna say, that I am the perfect member, but if you want a 'good' member of a notable site I am right here.

However, if you don't like my idea just tell me. We could share the ideas and pick the best one. And if you want to tell me again, that we don't have the abilitys, I am out.

I've got nothing more to say.
2017-04-09 04:55:00

Author:
mdkd99
Posts: 1172


I ain't gonna say, that I am the perfect member, but if you want a 'good' member of a notable site I am right here.

However, if you don't like my idea just tell me. We could share the ideas and pick the best one. And if you want to tell me again, that we don't have the abilitys, I am out.

I've got nothing more to say.

It's true, the only thing that has been written about this "leader" thing, is that's not hard, but we're "lazy", we don't have the "right stuff", without any specification of what we actually need to do. We just do "nothing" to help the site. I thought this thread was created for people to share their ideas and thoughts about what we can do to help the site.

Well, this is what I took from all of it, at least. I don't do anything, I can't help the site, I'm a follower, lazy, I don't know what I'm doing (That one's true) and all I do is effortlessly point a finger onto the next person to do the work.

You can't expect someone to do something if they're being told this, as they just won't want to.
2017-04-09 05:53:00

Author:
Sir monacle
Posts: 4155


Hi friends,

I think that this discussion is going a way that isn't helpful!
jwwphotos, I know you as a passionate admin, always with a friendly ear for the matters of our members, investing a lot of time (including your free weekends) to keep the forum running! We can all be happy to have you, so thanks again for your fantastic work!
mdkd99, I know you as a bundle of energy with lots of good ideas, active in nearly each of the main lbp forums! I think that LBF did a really good choice to make you member of their crew.
gurren009 and Sir monacle, you seem to be omnipresent, you're the stuff to keep a forum vivid, with intelligent and also funny contributions.
fireblitz95, somehow you're here one of my eldest companions though we never met personally online. which is a pity! But maybe we can change this sometime!
CuriousSack, I know you as a...
I probably could go on for a long while cause there are still many active friends around. Veterans and also newer gamers.
We all have the same goal, we want to offer something to the community, a place where they can meet friends, where they can find infos or where they can intensify their gaming experience with forum events or contests.
Its clear that this means a lot of work and that this will be a process that needs some time! But I'm hoping that volunteers will join once we've started again. In my opinion we should link with the other forums to reach these goals!
Our experienced members could be helpful and share their experience, but maybe we can also create new experiences! I think that being active is far better than sitting around and lamenting about the good old times! So once again... lets start and we will see where the journey will go!
I don't know, whether we will be able to organize an event for Easter, something like a pod decoration contest or an Easter picture contest, but maybe we should first take some time to form a group for planning and organizing.
2017-04-09 09:56:00

Author:
CuriousSack
Posts: 3981


Just because my name was in one of the above posts:
I just said before, that, if jww doesnt want to pay for the site, i could host it for free on my big server, but I never wanted to be admin/mod/spotlighter or something else here, because i have too much to do with other fansites and my real live, I just could help like on LBF, I make tech. support, for example duplicate the forum for tests, install a https certificate, etc, nothing else, no spotlights etc (just the music recordings)...

I think all was said above, jww does a great job, but he is admin and he cant be the whole LBPC Crew...
But It's nice to see, some guys want to help to bring back a little bit of the great old time of LBPC...
2017-04-09 10:10:00

Author:
Hanfi1311
Posts: 776


It's true, the only thing that has been written about this "leader" thing, is that's not hard, but we're "lazy", we don't have the "right stuff", without any specification of what we actually need to do. We just do "nothing" to help the site. I thought this thread was created for people to share their ideas and thoughts about what we can do to help the site.

Well, this is what I took from all of it, at least. I don't do anything, I can't help the site, I'm a follower, lazy, I don't know what I'm doing (That one's true) and all I do is effortlessly point a finger onto the next person to do the work.

You can't expect someone to do something if they're being told this, as they just won't want to.

I do agree with you to some degree. I just think that jww is probably just tired of all the pressure it takes to the run this site, and all these ideas just seem to be forced on him, without any help from us, the community. I think we need to start working ourselves. We can start contacting other fansites, posting threads like "LBPC needs YOU!" to get notable creators on our site. We can even start contacting people in LBP3/LBP.me. There's just so much we can do right now, and jww is probably sick of us just spouting out ideas without doing anything.

EDIT: @CuriousSack I totally agree with you! There's so much that we can do. We don't have to have experienced creators or anything. All jwwphotos wants are people who are willing to work now, and can actually prove themselves to him that they will support this site and LBP as a whole.
2017-04-09 13:44:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Kinda funny how much verbiage I have written has been misunderstood. Even when I have said it so many ways.

Again... I do not mind paying for this site. Heck.. I just made another quarterly payment. What I mind is all the suggestions expecting action without anyone willing to do them.

I see that might have changed and some considering taking up the reigns for this or that. Cool. If you want to volunteer to do something or be part of something, come see me.

Also I think I am closing this thread as it has gotten almost off topic and out of hand. You are welcome to make your own threads if you want to try and organize something. ...and if you are really serious, I can give you access to the Contest Crew vault to start planning some contests.

Send me a pm.
2017-04-09 14:01:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I'm always willing to work on a contest, if there are others interested in being part of the organization and judging process 2017-04-10 00:56:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838


I know you are.. and quite awesome at it.

We also have another volunteer, Fireblitz. Long time member of the Spotlight crew.
2017-04-10 03:08:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Hey jwwphotos, just out of personal curiosity, I know this should probably be in a PM, but do you know if we are gonna be able to organize anything with Sumo/LBP Staff? At this point, probably not, since Sumo has pretty much given up on LBP.2017-04-10 23:51:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Yes.. that should be in a PM and off topic.

I heard StevenI is still around, but LBP staff? Not sure exactly what you are asking. If you are wanting to help organize something, I suggest joining the Contest Crew.
2017-04-11 00:19:00

Author:
jwwphotos
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Actually nvm, that clears it up for me. Thanks! 2017-04-11 00:26:00

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Thanks for all the ideas and conversation. We have some willing volunteers to help with some contests, so stay tuned for some news.

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2017-04-17 14:43:00

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