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Hi all, when LBP3 was announced, the vast major of this site lots its socks and everyone seemed hyped for the game. But not me, my socks stayed onto my feet, with a firm grasp too. I took part in the BETA, which I found simply disappointed by, but obviously its a BETA, there will be problems. However, come the launch of the real game, and my heart broke a little. There seemed to be so many things that are wrong, ranging from poor story lengths and terrible servers, to buggy bugs that didn't seem to want to be swatted. I felt the story was too short, and everything seemed rushed, and you never got to truly feel a new item. For example, blinkball (I think its called this, but I honestly have no clue, its the hat that shoots balls). I used it in the level we got it, and a little bit in Manglewood and one other level, but from what I recall, that was it. Bye-bye blinkball. Maybe if the story was longer than three chapters and a prologue, we might have seen more. I also thought the final character we met was a disaster, her voice just drove me up walls. Some levels were good because they required 4 players to do it, nice touch. Oh wait! You can't move 5 steps without freezing a bit! The servers are literally a train wreck. I cannot even play with a second person never mind 4. My internet is perfectly, I never lag on any other games, and I'm honestly ashamed of these servers. And all the bugs. A lot have been resolved now, but some I ail to see how were not stopped before hand! It is things like these that make me drift away from this game, and just question who is enjoying this, and how are you doing it? One of the main points of LBP is playing online with other chums, yet when your all disconnected from one another, the game just feels poor, not up to the standards with are used to seeing. I look at reviews and see IGN rate is 6.8, and have a title of "NOT QUITE SEWN UP". I honestly cannot blame them. The game feels so empty playing alone, and when there is a lack of co-operative options, I just simply put the game away and go back to CoD or The Last of Us.

2014-12-06 11:14:00 Author: dyna Posts: 260

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I've been playing LBP alone for years and mainly hang out with my LBP friends on forums like this 1 or twitter. But perhaps i can't relate to ya problem very well since i am more of a creator then i am a player. Sure it would had been really nice if the storymode was longer and had more variety i agree. but tis not that big of a deal imo. Tho I do agree that it disappointed me personally that the only new female creator curator on this game ended up being the most imo annoying character of all the new creator curators on this game. Which made me little sad because i personal prefer female characters myself. However it really doesn't matter. And LBP has always been extremely buggy, and just like the other games after a few months most of the more annoying bugs will be cleaned out. sure it's always a pain having to deal with bugs, but it imo doesn't ruin the experience to much normally, it just slows it down little. *mew Also you lost me at 'COD' ... i don't try to be racist against people's personal choice in games... But ROTFL COD... xD

2014-12-06 12:08:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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In the end it all depends on how much of a LBP fan you really are. I am myself a hardcore LBP fan so all these negative reviews and problems surrounding this game didn't affect me at all when I bought LBP3. I knew that the majority of the game lies withing the create and share features, the story-mode was just a nice way of getting stuff to build with

2014-12-06 21:53:00 Author: blacksackman Posts: 234

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It's pretty bad that game companies rush through games more recently. When I make a game someday, I try to take as much time as I can. There's no need to rush.

2014-12-06 23:15:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408

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In the end it all depends on how much of a LBP fan you really are. That's not really a fair assessment. I am a huge fan of the series, but this one is really frustrating me. I've already had to start over twice because of level crashes (hub levels getting ruined) and I just found out today that yet ANOTHER hub level has been destroyed!! I'm going to have to start over for a THIRD time!! I was playing around in create mode and my PS3 froze, then turned off. When I turned it back on, it of course had to do the system check where it rebuilds the database... Being a fan of a series doesn't mean you cannot get frustrated by constant bugs and crashes and constantly being forced to start over...

2014-12-06 23:26:00 Author: DistantWords Posts: 49

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If you didn't like LBP3's story, then you probably played LBP1. I wish I had LBP1 still so I could replay the story levels. I liked Marlon Random though.

2014-12-07 03:12:00 Author: minifat Posts: 75

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That's not really a fair assessment. I am a huge fan of the series, but this one is really frustrating me. I've already had to start over twice because of level crashes (hub levels getting ruined) and I just found out today that yet ANOTHER hub level has been destroyed!! I'm going to have to start over for a THIRD time!! I was playing around in create mode and my PS3 froze, then turned off. When I turned it back on, it of course had to do the system check where it rebuilds the database... Being a fan of a series doesn't mean you cannot get frustrated by constant bugs and crashes and constantly being forced to start over... Well you must have been very unlucky then. The only glitches I encountered was falling out of the map a in a couple of levels and being invisible as toggle at the last fight. I guess that I would get mad too if I had to start over but I would also forgive and move on. If you really are a huge fan as you say, then you should know better that LBP games is full of bugs the first days until the patch arrives. That info alone made me very careful, I played it very safe, no risk taking with trying to see if the game glitches when I do this or that. Being a fan of a series can make you forgive constant bugs and crashes with the hope that the game will be fixed in the future. Not just drop negative feedback and complain, they have fixed the most of them now.

2014-12-07 08:58:00 Author: blacksackman Posts: 234

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Never let fandom excuse shoddy production you're just setting up for more buggy/unfinished releases in the future if they know they can get away with it.

2014-12-07 09:31:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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I don't think my opinion will have any greater affect on releases in the future. But since the majority is feeling a disappointment I feel like someone has to be positive. The fan-thing wasn't the best thing to say but that's what I feel at least. My love for this series made me focus on the bright side while I still knew the truth about the game.

2014-12-07 09:47:00 Author: blacksackman Posts: 234

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I don't think my opinion will have any greater affect on releases in the future. But since the majority is feeling a disappointment I feel like someone has to be positive. The fan-thing wasn't the best thing to say but that's what I feel at least. My love for this series made me focus on the bright side while I still knew the truth about the game. Despite how negative I know I have been around these forums, I still love this game. As a matter of fact, it's that love that makes me so negative. I'm sure it'll work out in the end, or I really hope it does, but dang man. Dat launch.

2014-12-07 10:56:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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I have a feeling that this game is dying already. I can't say I'm enjoing this game as much as the previous games. There is just so many things Sumo did wrong...

2014-12-07 12:02:00 Author: Willman4 Posts: 170

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Well you must have been very unlucky then. The only glitches I encountered was falling out of the map a in a couple of levels and being invisible as toggle at the last fight. I guess that I would get mad too if I had to start over but I would also forgive and move on. If you really are a huge fan as you say, then you should know better that LBP games is full of bugs the first days until the patch arrives. That info alone made me very careful, I played it very safe, no risk taking with trying to see if the game glitches when I do this or that. Being a fan of a series can make you forgive constant bugs and crashes with the hope that the game will be fixed in the future. Not just drop negative feedback and complain, they have fixed the most of them now. I had LBP1 since its Day 1 launch, got into both BETAs and played LBP tons and tons. You cannot say all "true" fans have to love the game. I feel this game was flawed a lot more than the previous ones, and that's the reason I made this thread. A "true" LBP fan would be honest, and not fall into the category of "I have to like this game no matter what".

2014-12-07 12:07:00 Author: dyna Posts: 260

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I can understand where you're coming from Dyna. For me, I was looking forward to LBP3 purely from a create perspective, and I'm really, really happy with the new tools and functions added. I think they made a lot of smart additions when it comes to that. So for me, the story mode was just the cherry on top. The story was short, but I felt the levels were nicely designed. LBP3 still has a lot of issues though, I hope they step up when it comes to bug fixing. And I question the choice of getting rid of some of the community features that were present in LBP2. Maybe give the game another chance a bit down the road.

2014-12-07 13:54:00 Author: MomoFerret Posts: 66

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Just my opinion, but I still think it is the most impressive LBP yet. Artwork, graphics, clever gameplay, fun... wow.. I have been stunned. Though one issue would be to bypass the cinematics that I have already seen before. Leaves you stuck and other than a pause to hit the bathroom or get another drink of sorts... I find them a bit intrusive. However, if some of you hate it.. fine.

2014-12-07 18:23:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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Just my opinion, but I still think it is the most impressive LBP yet. Artwork, graphics, clever gameplay, fun... wow.. I have been stunned. Though one issue would be to bypass the cinematics that I have already seen before. Leaves you stuck and other than a pause to hit the bathroom or get another drink of sorts... I find them a bit intrusive. However, if some of you hate it.. fine. I wouldn't say I hate it, just frustrated to have spent ?55 on a game being held together with the thinnest of strings. Glitches will happen at launch, fair do's. However, this amount of glitches and problems in totally unacceptable, and wonder how much SD actually fixed since the BETA.

2014-12-08 20:16:00 Author: dyna Posts: 260

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Well you must have been very unlucky then. The only glitches I encountered was falling out of the map a in a couple of levels and being invisible as toggle at the last fight. I guess that I would get mad too if I had to start over but I would also forgive and move on. If you really are a huge fan as you say, then you should know better that LBP games is full of bugs the first days until the patch arrives. That info alone made me very careful, I played it very safe, no risk taking with trying to see if the game glitches when I do this or that. Being a fan of a series can make you forgive constant bugs and crashes with the hope that the game will be fixed in the future. Not just drop negative feedback and complain, they have fixed the most of them now. I have played ALL of the LBP games, and while yes they do have glitches, I have never once had to delete my save data and start over from scratch with LBP, LBP PSP, LBP2 or LBP Vita. Not ONCE. So far, just a couple of weeks in, I've had to twice, and a third time is guaranteed since the Book Three hub is broken (the patch notes say that if a level is broken, save data has to be deleted because the level is saved in that state). The only reason I haven't deleted the save data on this latest turn is because I just can't bring myself to do it. If I delete it now, what's to say that the bugs that caused the error are gone so that I won't have to delete again? And what exactly do you consider "risk taking" when it comes to avoiding level breaking glitches? NONE of the times have there been anything that actively "caused" the glitches that broke the levels. I simply played, stopped playing, came back, and found them broken. With this very last time, I had just unlocked Swoop. I played as Swoop in the Book Three Hub, collected some bubbles, then changed back into Sackboy. The level was still just fine. I then entered a level from the Hub, and while in that level, hit "Start" then "Return To Pod". When I came back, the level was broken. How would you have "played that safe"? Now, why don't you just go and delete your save data, so you can see how someone else feels, before criticizing them for being frustrated? After all, I NEVER said I hated the game or anything. I'm just frustrated because for the third time, I am having to start over. I'm also very concerned for my PS3 itself; crashing the system isn't exactly good for the system, is it? And this game HAS crashed my system more than a few times. I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm not saying I hate it. I'm just saying it has some MAJOR problems and that those who experience the side effects of those problems would find it frustrating. And it's easy for someone who hasn't had major problems to judge when they haven't HAD to restart the game 3 times....

2014-12-09 05:55:00 Author: DistantWords Posts: 49

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even with patch 1.3 -my ps3 version only have 25 tutorials -my LBP1,LBP2 and the full range of LBP3 sounds still missing -tag sensors don't shows the right colours -emitters shows the emited things many layers behind the layer that I want -why my quests appears as completed in create mode after playing it to test the level? how they suppose that I could create something decent with these issues? I want an official apology and compensation from Sumo or Sony,or whoever in charge

2014-12-09 06:08:00 Author: ramkibainu Posts: 37

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I want an official apology and compensation from Sumo or Sony,or whoever in charge Yeah fill it out please: http://www.bureauofcommunication.com/apology.jpg

2014-12-09 06:45:00 Author: blastroid Posts: 262

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I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm not saying I hate it. I'm just saying it has some MAJOR problems and that those who experience the side effects of those problems would find it frustrating. And it's easy for someone who hasn't had major problems to judge when they haven't HAD to restart the game 3 times.... I think you should stop drawing conclusions about things you do not know. I know how it feels to restart a LBP game, it happen to me in LBP2, and that was when I had aced everything and unlocked all prizes. It's very frustrating but it's not the end of the world. You can think whatever you want, but if you want to join the complain-train you should find one of the many other threads about the same topic. I guess it's a good thing to let out you anger trough the LBPC forum, but keep it calm at least.

2014-12-09 07:20:00 Author: blacksackman Posts: 234

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I think you should stop drawing conclusions about things you do not know. I know how it feels to restart a LBP game, it happen to me in LBP2, and that was when I had aced everything and unlocked all prizes. It's very frustrating but it's not the end of the world. You can think whatever you want, but if you want to join the complain-train you should find one of the many other threads about the same topic. I guess it's a good thing to let out you anger trough the LBPC forum, but keep it calm at least. I'm sorry you had to restart LBP2, I didn't even know that was something that was possible. I have never read about anyone having to start over because of a glitch or something with LBP2. As for this: but if you want to join the complain-train you should find one of the many other threads about the same topic Isn't that what I did? I didn't start this thread, I joined one on the same topic. So isn't that what I did? Please correct me if I'm wrong here... but keep it calm at least Pretty sure I have been calm, but please let me know where I was out of line.

2014-12-09 07:42:00 Author: DistantWords Posts: 49

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Ah I thought you were original poster. Well it felt like you were beginning to get angry at my personally when you started to use caps-lock and drawing conclusions out of thin air. It's alright though, I can understand your frustration.

2014-12-09 07:49:00 Author: blacksackman Posts: 234

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I think you should stop drawing conclusions about things you do not know. I know how it feels to restart a LBP game, it happen to me in LBP2, and that was when I had aced everything and unlocked all prizes. It's very frustrating but it's not the end of the world. You can think whatever you want, but if you want to join the complain-train you should find one of the many other threads about the same topic. I guess it's a good thing to let out you anger trough the LBPC forum, but keep it calm at least. Its not a complain train, I simply made a thread discussing my feelings towards the game. If the game isn't living up to what its mean to be, I'll say that. I'm not going to even try to defend it. You keep telling everyone games aren't perfect at launch, and things will be ironed out in the coming months. But when the game has been out for multiple weeks and people are still losing saves and are unable to beat the story because of paths just simply not existing, why should you wait when you've ?55 for game that if half done and a complete train-wreck. If you haven't experienced any glitches, good for you, but don't judge others for saying they have had problems and say they should just wait. I would like to see you fork out ?55 for a game that has dreadful servers, game-breaking glitches you can't avoid, and forces you to delete your save numerous times if you wish to proceed, and many other bugs and errors which aren't fixed a few weeks after launch.

2014-12-09 17:14:00 Author: dyna Posts: 260

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You should read your first post again, you are absurdly hating on the LBP3 release, you're complaining about short story, about bad servers, basically about everything. Now, I don't judge you for that, I am just telling you to look on the bright side instead of seeing only the negative side of this. I am not trying to defend anything, I just shared my own opinion on how I see things. Now if you can't accept others opinions then it's not my problem. I apology if I wrote something that made you upset, but we all love LBP, don't we? So lets be friends and hope for a glitch free LBP3 before Christmas.

2014-12-09 17:44:00 Author: blacksackman Posts: 234

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Keep in mind that even if you don't agree, he is welcome to his opinion.

2014-12-09 18:14:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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All the negative points made about LBP3 have been justified. I myself have played the story mode twice due to losing the info the first time, but let me ask you this.... what other game offer 9 million levels, tools to create a game that sells for ?50, AND gives you the freedom to create absolutely anything you want? None, that's how many. LBP3's create mode is so expansive now that I really don't want to know how LBP4 can top it. 16 layers, all those tools.... give us back the DLC and we are sorted with well over 100's of Materials and 1000's of stickers/Deco's. It's incredible that you can do all of that. Don't be too hard on LBP3... it has taken a massive leap from the first 2, kept it's charm and interface, and still managed to make it lore friendly enough so we can all understand the finer points of the Wobble Bolt! Smile, be positive, it's only up from here, and when it comes down to it... think of the base product you've just bought, and the potential it can hold

2014-12-09 18:23:00 Author: LittleBigSnooth Posts: 454

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I have taken all of your opinions and justifications to account as I determine whether to buy LBP3 for myself. While my own purchase is indeed important to me, I'm more concerned about the public eye for the game. It seems recently, that games with horrible stability at launch have plagued the game community; AC: Unity, Drive Club, Simcity, and now LBP3. Which of these titles (excluding LBP3) is still either remembered by distain, or simply forgotten? Sure LBP3 may be in the process of getting better, but the launch was a key role in expanding the community. Now it seems only hardcore fans are putting up with it. It is entirely possible that LBP3 has begun its end.

2014-12-09 18:58:00 Author: Bonnell7 Posts: 100

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"Now it seems that only hardcore fans are putting up with it"? What made you assume such a thing? Can you qualify that statement? Anyway lbp3 is not going to slip into obscurity. For all the whinging going on about it, it still offers an experience like no other and the create mode and the new tools in it have hardly even been figured out. There will be life in this game for a long while.

2014-12-09 19:36:00 Author: EinRobot Posts: 739

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In fact Ubisoft offered apologies and compensation for the broken ACUnity Blizzard offered apologies and compensation for warlord of Draenor I don't know too much of iternational laws but selling broken games I think qualifies as scam. - - - - - - - - - - Yeah fill it out please: http://www.bureauofcommunication.com/apology.jpg @blastroid I'm tired of broken games and Christmas scams. So...unless YOU go to refund my $ 60 dollar, maybe you must fill this formal apology.

2014-12-09 20:27:00 Author: ramkibainu Posts: 37

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"Now it seems that only hardcore fans are putting up with it"? What made you assume such a thing? Can you qualify that statement? I meant putting up with it as in: seeing past its faults and viewing it for what it is, a massively potential game. The everyday player who simply enjoys playing LBP for its silly cuteness won't put up with these issues. And those who are fans of the game but aren't quite hardcore (hardcore as in willing to spend days and months dedicated to game features) are very disappointed. This is troublesome. I myself was only really into the game because I loved making logic. Yet the lack of new logic put me off. And I don't mean gameplay tools and tweakers. I mean signal interpreters. I mention this because I don't want to come off bias towards my points about the game. My reasons for not buying it are completely outside the main controversy. I state these points out of observation from many parts of the interwebs. The truth is, LBP3 isn't making a big slash at all.

2014-12-09 21:26:00 Author: Bonnell7 Posts: 100

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This bun should have been left in the oven till NEXT YEAR. That's my opinion. They could have sat on it, and given it more time, but it had to be forced out, and like other things you... Force out... Its stinky. Still, it is a great game. Just riddled with bugs.

2014-12-09 21:31:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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Hang on, now I really think your're being harsh. 1.03 has fixed a lot of issues, granted there are more to be fixed, but at the end of the day, these developers are working like mad (clearly) to get this game sorted. 1.03 came instantly, 16th announced for the DLC is on the clock, and we know for a fact they're GOING to get it all sorted Besides, the very same people who complain that it should be been released next year, are the ones who'd complain and moan that it's been delayed. I respect your point about the issues, but I respect them more for announcing a launch date, and sticking (give the week for other reasons) to it. And just one more thing to add, every game has bugs on release... what better way to fix them than to fire 10'000 creation hungry players at their creations? We've all paid for the game, but it's not like they're taking it off us again, or making us pay more! There WILL be compensation of sorts, and it will be fine. Chin up, positive thoughts, guys, come on

2014-12-09 21:40:00 Author: LittleBigSnooth Posts: 454

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Hang on, now I really think your're being harsh. 1.03 has fixed a lot of issues, granted there are more to be fixed, but at the end of the day, these developers are working like mad (clearly) to get this game sorted. 1.03 came instantly, 16th announced for the DLC is on the clock, and we know for a fact they're GOING to get it all sorted Besides, the very same people who complain that it should be been released next year, are the ones who'd complain and moan that it's been delayed. I respect your point about the issues, but I respect them more for announcing a launch date, and sticking (give the week for other reasons) to it. And just one more thing to add, every game has bugs on release... what better way to fix them than to fire 10'000 creation hungry players at their creations? We've all paid for the game, but it's not like they're taking it off us again, or making us pay more! There WILL be compensation of sorts, and it will be fine. Chin up, positive thoughts, guys, come on Alright. Hopefully you're right. I myself might not be coming back to LBP though. I'm doing actual circuitry now. And if they they choose to make new logic handlers, then I might come back. But until then, you guys have fun!

2014-12-09 21:54:00 Author: Bonnell7 Posts: 100

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I don't know too much of iternational laws but selling broken games I think qualifies as scam. Well there you have it. That would probably make 99.9% of all games at release a scam. I suggest waiting 6 months after a game is released before ever attempting to purchase it. Even then your level of required perfection will never be met.

2014-12-09 22:01:00 Author: blastroid Posts: 262

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I think all of this hate should be merged in one huge thread. So people who like the game can stop seeing hate all over the place. No offence though!

2014-12-09 22:39:00 Author: CamostarAtIsabella Posts: 188

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I love the game. Its great. Its the best in the series. But I'm not going to just look past it's failures, or forgive it's early release. Sumo knew that it wouldn't be finished when they announced it. They should have said 2015, and stuck with that. It would have been polished and nice and clean.

2014-12-09 22:42:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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I wouldn't say I'm not feeling this game, I would say I hate this game. I do ... I can't help the emotion that has naturally manifested after hours and hours of pointless attempts at doing the very same thing over and over again. I have no problem failing to ACE levels or reach that difficult prize bubble if it's because of difficulty but when it's because of a bug or a glitch it's a different matter. The only way of describing this game is a 'complete mess' and when SUMO got the call about a year ago to port it to the PS4 because Sony needed a Christmas title, they probably knew then that they wouldn't be able to put out a AAA product. Don't fool yourself into believing this has really been in development for the PS4 for 3 years and don't fool yourself into believing the whole 'BC was important' nonsense. I have never owned a game that is so broken.

2014-12-10 00:33:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910

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I love the game. Its great. Its the best in the series. But I'm not going to just look past it's failures, or forgive it's early release. Sumo knew that it wouldn't be finished when they announced it. They should have said 2015, and stuck with that. It would have been polished and nice and clean. I would've loved that. It would have a much meatier Story Mode as well... Possibly entire chapters with levels dedicated for each character. It would've been a much bigger bang for your buck (or 60 bucks) for sure.

2014-12-10 00:55:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952

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Another thing I don't get is the logic behind, "Let's expand our player family by selling a very buggy first impression of a game. That will surely make the community grow!" I was being very facetious there, but the bottom line is that you can't deny that this launched state was bad (As a whole, not your own experience). No one can say it wasn't bad. That's like ignoring that there's vanilla in your chocolate cake (Not a marble cake), or denying that the color red is in the rainbow. I love this game for what it can be, and has become. I would really like to see it flourish because it offers more than being a game. I could even say that 'I believe in this product'. And IF you are one of those people who ignore the vanilla or deny the color red, who does that help? I am not saying you should take up the pitch forks and torches, but don't ignore it, and don't deny it. But don't just focus on it either. After all, there is good in this game. And another reason why I care is because, like most of us, I have chosen to give my time, creativity, and enjoyment to this game. Much like anything anyone does in life.

2014-12-10 07:35:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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Here's the deal. The game's gonna get better, and you're all gonna look past this silliness and love it! But I'm willing to bet that we'll see little to no community growth until much later in its lifetime. This launch really damaged LBP's reputation for children and quality concerned parents alike. This isn't quite bad though, a more exclusive and experienced community offers more talent and care overall.

2014-12-10 09:14:00 Author: Bonnell7 Posts: 100

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Ya know somethin'...I kinda blame MM for all of this. They just ran off too soon. There's just NO WAY!!!.. MM could disappoint such a passionate and loyal community the way Sumo has. The would've either delayed this game 'till the end of time or consumed twice as much coffee as normal until the game was perfection (or at the very least playable). The legacy of such an innovative, inspiring and magical creation is now tarnished. So sad... If there's anything I've learned from this is, I'm never gonna publish another level until I've tested, polished, and played it's brains out. Sorry for being so "negative", but I just hate seeing people still complaining about (at the very least) the game's stability at this point... Just get it together man!!! At least by next year...got too many level ideas just swimming around in a very fragile fish bowl...

2014-12-10 09:34:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849

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Don't make Mm out to be holy. LBP1 was pretty unstable in the beginning, and there wasn't even a proper profile backup to protect yourself. I suffered a partial profile loss back then, while my LBP3 experience has been pretty smooth so far. And there are still LBP1 and LBP2 bugs that were never fixed. Which bring me to... ... and we know for a fact they're GOING to get it all sorted That's not fact. For now I trust most critical issues will be fixed, but I doubt they'll fix absolutely everything. And there's always the possibility that some business person will calculate that the prognosed DLC returns fall below the developer costs and pull some or all resources, like with LBP Karting.

2014-12-10 14:36:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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Don't make Mm out to be holy. LBP1 was pretty unstable in the beginning, and there wasn't even a proper profile backup to protect yourself. I suffered a partial profile loss back then, while my LBP3 experience has been pretty smooth so far. And there are still LBP1 and LBP2 bugs that were never fixed. Which bring me to... That's not fact. For now I trust most critical issues will be fixed, but I doubt they'll fix absolutely everything. And there's always the possibility that some business person will calculate that the prognosed DLC returns fall below the developer costs and pull some or all resources, like with LBP Karting. Okay, you're picking on the 'All' in there and I should have specified, but come on, they've never left us hanging before, and they won't here, either. The bottom line is, it has its problems and it has its worth, but focusing on the negatives as if they'll never get fixed is just pessimistic at best! Focus on what we've got, and what will come, and what will be fixed.. maybe not ALL, but pretty much as close as you can get

2014-12-10 19:04:00 Author: LittleBigSnooth Posts: 454

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And there's always the possibility that some business person will calculate that the prognosed DLC returns fall below the developer costs and pull some or all resources, like with LBP Karting. Oh god, I hope that's not the case. I was really looking forward to level DLC in LBP Karting (like they did with Modnation) and it never happened. Is there some way to look at the sales figures for this game? I have no idea how it sold, just that it didn't even crack the Top 10 in US or UK. (and obviously not in Japan!)

2014-12-10 19:57:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952

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Don't make Mm out to be holy. LBP1 was pretty unstable in the beginning, and there wasn't even a proper profile backup to protect yourself. I suffered a partial profile loss back then, while my LBP3 experience has been pretty smooth so far. And there are still LBP1 and LBP2 bugs that were never fixed. I would say they get a pass considering 1. LBP1 was the first game they've developed. 2. PS3 was a tough cookie to develop for and 3. Unstable maybe, but it at least felt like a finished enough game that critics didn't have to deduct extraordinary points solely for it's bugs. LBP2 wasn't perfect either, but playable is the keyword. Some of the bugs I'm seeing for LBP3 are just plain disgraceful. Let's put it this way...If MM was developing LBP3, do you think it would've turned out A LOT better? If yes, then that's why I blame them. Alright...I'm done...no more negativity lol.

2014-12-10 22:33:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849

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I would say they get a pass considering 1. LBP1 was the first game they've developed. 2. PS3 was a tough cookie to develop for and 3. Unstable maybe, but it at least felt like a finished enough game that critics didn't have to deduct extraordinary points solely for it's bugs. LBP2 wasn't perfect either, but playable is the keyword. Some of the bugs I'm seeing for LBP3 are just plain disgraceful. Let's put it this way...If MM was developing LBP3, do you think it would've turned out A LOT better? If yes, then that's why I blame them. Alright...I'm done...no more negativity lol. Even if MM released it like this, I feel the game breaking glitches would of been patched by now. The games been out for weeks, and I'm still seeing new threads about missing parts of the level causing people to delete their saves. That, on its own, is disgraceful. I fail to see how other just tell them to wait and be patient. Its completely unfair they spend ?55 on game to just keep losing their saves over and over.

2014-12-10 23:24:00 Author: dyna Posts: 260

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Even if MM released it like this, I feel the game breaking glitches would of been patched by now. The games been out for weeks, and I'm still seeing new threads about missing parts of the level causing people to delete their saves. That, on its own, is disgraceful. I fail to see how other just tell them to wait and be patient. Its completely unfair they spend ?55 on game to just keep losing their saves over and over. I seriously doubt it. It has been quite some time, but I seem to remember quite a bit of screaming around the online create release as well as the initial one for LBP 1. As far as being patient... Regardless working out coding fixes, testing, QA before you can finally wrap it up and deliver it so the store can push it out, takes some time. So in my mind (and I am a software developer / technologist) it really makes sense to insure it is really ready when they release a patch. ..and we did just get one that seemed to have fixed some things. I can relate to the frustration of folks having to start over and all the terrible issues that have been reported, but keep in mind there are quite a few that haven't had any issues playing the game. It doesn't excuse that there were major issues. I am just more in line with "lets report the issues", "coordinate and get them the information as detailed we can". Then hopefully we can get through this as fast as possible. Up to you really.. but if it was you under the gun trying to fix or complete something, does it help if someone is screaming about how wrong it was or how late it is every few minutes? They already know. The ones that decided to go ahead with the initial release are not the same ones that have to fix it. I promise they both want to fix it asap and are trying their best.

2014-12-11 01:07:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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Last night I played LBP3 and had so much fun. And then a bug came and just ruined everything. Without bugs, LBP3 is the funnest LBP game for me.

2014-12-12 20:35:00 Author: gurren009 Posts: 2592

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I am just more in line with "lets report the issues", "coordinate and get them the information as detailed we can". Then hopefully we can get through this as fast as possible. Up to you really.. but if it was you under the gun trying to fix or complete something, does it help if someone is screaming about how wrong it was or how late it is every few minutes? They already know. The ones that decided to go ahead with the initial release are not the same ones that have to fix it. I promise they both want to fix it asap and are trying their best. I agree with you for the most part my friend, but I just have to say this... Action have consequences. Plain and simple. It's the law of the world (i.e. Newton's third law, etc.). If Sumo and/or Sony decides to release a barely functional game, they have to suffer the consequences of a disgruntled, bitter community. This mentality of "stop whining and just deal with it!" is exactly why developers and upper management do things like this. Because they know they can take advantage and sell out on the loyalty and fandom of it's customers and make US do THEIR jobs. I'm all for fixing the game and reporting issues, but I would NOT encourage people to just sit around and be frustrated about spending their hard earned money on a broken game. Sure, it might not be directly helpful for those working diligently towards fixing the game, but complaints, criticism, and "whining" are all catalyst of progress. It's not always baseless, biased petulance, especially in this case. If I were one of the ones creating patches and such for the game and I stumbled upon a forum where a good majority of threads related to the game are complaints about how broken it is, I'd personally would be MORE motivated and concerned to fix it. I can't imagine a better reason to work harder in fact. Knowing that a lot of people are passionate enough about something I'm working on to write long essays about why they are upset is quite inspiring. I wouldn't encourage people to make more threads like these of course...but I also wouldn't encourage complacency or superficial "positivity". When everything is patched up and the game is as it should be, then threads like these wouldn't need to exist. But they do, and for clear, adequate reasons. So I say...let them be. But that's just my opinion...and as a mod, if you feel you should discourage and/or delete subsequent threads like these, I wouldn't have a problem. Now...back to twiddling my thumbs until I get a hopefully functional LBP3 next year.

2014-12-13 04:26:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849

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I agree with you for the most part my friend, but I just have to say this... Action have consequences. Plain and simple. It's the law of the world (i.e. Newton's third law, etc.). If Sumo and/or Sony decides to release a barely functional game, they have to suffer the consequences of a disgruntled, bitter community. This mentality of "stop whining and just deal with it!" is exactly why developers and upper management do things like this. Because they know they can take advantage and sell out on the loyalty and fandom of it's customers and make US do THEIR jobs. I'm all for fixing the game and reporting issues, but I would NOT encourage people to just sit around and be frustrated about spending their hard earned money on a broken game. Sure, it might not be directly helpful for those working diligently towards fixing the game, but complaints, criticism, and "whining" are all catalyst of progress. It's not always baseless, biased petulance, especially in this case. If I were one of the ones creating patches and such for the game and I stumbled upon a forum where a good majority of threads related to the game are complaints about how broken it is, I'd personally would be MORE motivated and concerned to fix it. I can't imagine a better reason to work harder in fact. Knowing that a lot of people are passionate enough about something I'm working on to write long essays about why they are upset is quite inspiring. I wouldn't encourage people to make more threads like these of course...but I also wouldn't encourage complacency or superficial "positivity". When everything is patched up and the game is as it should be, then threads like these wouldn't need to exist. But they do, and for clear, adequate reasons. So I say...let them be. But that's just my opinion...and as a mod, if you feel you should discourage and/or delete subsequent threads like these, I wouldn't have a problem. Now...back to twiddling my thumbs until I get a hopefully functional LBP3 next year. Et tu cornish?!! lol... Not really, I just always wanted to use that!! Yup.. I understand. I also think by the shear number of bugs reported that one could easily say "not good at all". To clarify a bit, by no means am I against opinions sharing their frustrations with bugs etc, I would rather keep it civil and not go after anyone with pitchforks and torches. I guess what I am saying is I feel it more my job to help organize and get this fixed asap and am doing what I can to assist Steven and Sumo Digital, letting you all voice your opinions. Notice we have not locked or deleted any threads that were negative, except maybe combine them when possible. However regardless of any issues, I am loving this version. To me it is more on track with LBP1 and regained it's charm as well as regained the glorious lighting and even material saturation and shadows from colored lights. Plus gaining a ton of great new game play concepts. Sans the bugs, I am quite happy and see some amazing things in our future.

2014-12-13 14:27:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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I think it's important to remember that sumo digital is working very hard at fixing these glitches. I realize that the game should have been more stable and all but it is a different developer and it's a pretty complex game to make. I feel that once these glitches are fixed in the update, everybody will be happy again and able to play without any problems. I remember when lbp vita had lots of bugs in its release. I couldn't even load a community level with having to wait 10 minutes. Now it only takes about a minute. As for the story mode, I don't find it that bad aside from the glitches, but let's remember that lbp is more about creating and playing community levels. I would give it a bit of time for these bugs and to all be addressed, then it'll be successful. And for those of you who feel they should have waited to release the game, think of it like this: the game currently is like a beta, and you've already paid for the full game. Once the updates are released for the bug fixes, it's like that's the full game being released with no problems, and it's already paid for. We just have to wait for the updates, and if the game was released later, we would have had to wait as well. Let's look at the positives

2014-12-13 15:23:00 Author: airide101 Posts: 141

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