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(Update: GT video review - counter) IGN/Gamespot video review

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EDIT:GT Review opposing view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSyjU3HeRt0
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSyjU3HeRt0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eluo5tsV4cM
I knew the score was going to be low...but not that low. While the main campaign might be severely lacking, I'm sure the lbp community will be able to build up on that and make LBP3 a far more enjoyable experience.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11/18/littlebigplanet-3-review

EDIT: Other reviews seem to be saying the same thing...7ish seems to be the consensus.
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/little-big-planet-3-review/1900-6415964/
Better review- similar score.
2014-11-18 05:16:00

Author:
catsand
Posts: 201


I don't really worry about scores. The main problems the reviewer had with the game don't really worry me either, I'm sure the glitches are annoying but they'll get patched.
The worst thing about the reviews are that they'll put people off buying it that are new to lbp, which is a big shame.
I see the campaign as a demo of what you can do with the game. Lbp just gets better and better the longer it's out as more and more great levels are created.
2014-11-18 12:13:00

Author:
nickram
Posts: 29


All of these reviewers are unable to interpret and comprehend the fundamentals of what makes LittleBigPlanet, LittleBigPlanet.2014-11-18 12:23:00

Author:
SEWO97
Posts: 637


I'm sorta shocked by the score, but then again I don't play co-op much, along with the fact I'm getting the ps3 version. I still have hope for this game once I get it, so we'll just haveta see...

Also, check out this review: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/littlebigplanet-3-ps4-review-
2014-11-18 12:29:00

Author:
typhoonmoore
Posts: 18


Their reviewing the game at day 1... which means that there is no new community levels a.k.a the only think that makes this game awesome2014-11-18 12:47:00

Author:
JellyBellyScout
Posts: 30


The fact that bugs can be patched does not change the fact that bugs exist. What if you spent tons of time creating a level only to have the game crash and corrupt the level? It's happened to me on LBPV.... Heck, if I delete an old save game of the same level it still corrupts the new one. Happened to me today................................

That said...the many negative reviews did not discourage me from buy LBPK- I even bought a PS3 for it- but it did to others- there was hardly anyone to play with...sucks. I'd even buy a PS4 if they made LBPK for it. Although that is highly unlikely.
2014-11-18 21:26:00

Author:
catsand
Posts: 201


I don't really mind the low-score all that much but that entire video was all praise and barely any condescending so it's a bit weird how low the number is.2014-11-18 22:23:00

Author:
koltonaugust
Posts: 1382


I was very disappointed with the reviews. I feel like the game should have atleast gotten a 7.5 or an 8.2014-11-18 22:46:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


7's aren't bad scores at all....the game seems to be giving us what we really want (only played the beta) which are the improved upon tools to create user generated content which is the real lifeblood of the game. The review scores were never going to be able to take into account the real magic that happens later on in which users will improve upon, glitch and discover amazing ways to bend the game into their own visions. I'm amazed at how excited I was when I spotted the new shatter effect, infinite levels and adventure level hubs but I'm unsure how much this will appeal to folks who haven't played the game before....

.....I just wish they hadn't delayed the UK version to allow 'sackboy to shine' especially now with these good but not great reviews......man...I really thought I was cool about the delay....turns out I'm not.....
2014-11-18 23:45:00

Author:
James-p
Posts: 286


7's are an ok score to me. I just don't really get how you go from LBP2 and LBPV being 9's, to LBP3 being a 7. What exactly makes LBP3 inferior to the others?2014-11-18 23:55:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Game informer gave it an 8.5, The the difference there is that its the same reviewer that reviewed the previous games as well and he scored it based off of its strong creator. Not all reviewers are using the same criteria.

MY opinion so far the creator is MUCH better. I never gave much of a care about the story because user levels were far more interesting. It does seem to need a few patches though.
2014-11-19 00:29:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


duplicate post***2014-11-19 00:31:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


I feel like if Sumo Digital had all these bugs fixed from the beginning, and they payed the protection money for a good review, LBP3 would have gotten much better scores.2014-11-19 00:48:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


I feel like if Sumo Digital had all these bugs fixed from the beginning, and they payed the protection money for a good review, LBP3 would have gotten much better scores.

Basically, I am enjoying it so far. I am used to LBP2 crashing all the time anyways.
2014-11-19 00:53:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


Basically, I am enjoying it so far. I am used to LBP2 crashing all the time anyways.

I can't wait to play it! Only 9 more days until I have a chance of getting it on my birthday. I'm personally hoping for better multiplayer and less lag.
2014-11-19 01:00:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


If this will put things in perspective, I hope you realize IGN and gamespot are both insane
In the membrane

Ghosts from IGN:8.8
LBP from IGN: 6.8
Ghosts was the buggiest game ever, and by christmas everyone regretted buying it. Anyone who bought that game knows my pain

GTA5 from Gamespot:9/10
LBP from Gamespot:7/10
What did gamespot complain most about in their lbp3 review? Bugs.
What was GTA5 online for the first 5 months? Bugs. I mean you couldnt even log on until many patches were made, and GTA has just become boring now. Cough Cough no heists Cough Cough

- - - - - - - - - -

Oh yeah, and if you haven't noticed by now, IGN gets paid by the game creators to put up a good review. Looks like Sumo just didn't have enough bell- er, cash.
2014-11-19 01:39:00

Author:
XX_sonicfan_XX
Posts: 265


I really hate to say it, but I kind of get the negativity from the reviews, as well as lower scores. While I do think the game is great over all, I also feel very let down about some aspects. I forget which review it was, but someone said something about it feeling like a 'bait and switch' with what was advertised vs what we got, and I have to agree.

I thought for sure that we'd have all the characters introduced by the end of the 'training levels', and then the rest of the game would be ALL of the characters 'working together'. I mean, the entire game was introed at E3 as a giant co-op adventure with 'all new friends'. And the gameplay they showed off was all 4 characters working together!!

It's been a bit of a disappointment to see that there are only three actual worlds, and each world only has like one actual "level" that features someone other than sackthing, and it's not even retroactive! What I mean by that is, I assumed that once I got Toggle (for example), I'd be able to use him in Book One, but you can't.

Please don't get me wrong, I do really love the game. I just think it could have, and should have, been so much better. I don't know. What sucks is I've had the game less than 24 hours, and I've almost beaten the story. And I have BARELY played it. The other LBP games, all of them, have taken SOME time by me to beat, or even get close to beating.

Anyway, I just really, REALLY hope the community makes up for what the developers failed to deliver, and I hope it's really good. The thing is, the community shouldn't HAVE to make up for anything, IMO. Sorry, I'm just saying what I feel after playing up to near the end...
2014-11-19 03:01:00

Author:
DistantWords
Posts: 49


@DistantWorlds

Wrong wrong wrong! Your opinions are all wrong!

Jk, but I mean come on. All the reviewers got mad and rated it low mainly because of glitches. I hope they understand Sumo/Tarsier uses the same create mode we do... and apparently there was a DAY 1 patch made to fix most bugs, the only problem is that reviewers played the DAY 0 edition (Something i dont understand, what is day 0?).

The story problem I understand, but it is completely different now! Ar-Pee-Geees man!

The 16 layers is what is selling the game for me. Everything else is neat-o, but top down and 3-D levels? From a platforming game?
2014-11-19 05:16:00

Author:
XX_sonicfan_XX
Posts: 265


I never gave much of a care about the story because user levels were far more interesting.

My opinion on that is the opposite tbh, i far more enjoy the storymode levels compared to user made levels normally except for the rare exception. I just need professional quality story adventures packed full of wacky characters and adventure... even the higher quality community levels often are just 1-shot levels or basically tech demos or are extremely generic obstacle courses type levels or just a minigame... rarely ever a high quality adventure set of levels or anything with real story and interesting characters. *mew

Back on topic of the IGN score... Yeah it's kinda annoying... besides from all the bugs, LBP3 is the best game yet. it's nuts to score this game much lower to the past titles in the series... but i put a lot of this down to sequel hate, a lot of big reviewers will hate on a sequel for being... well a sequel... regardless of the actually quality of the game. also often platformers and adventure games are not popular with many big name reviewers lately too for some reason i notice. *mew
2014-11-19 05:41:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I forget which review it was, but someone said something about it feeling like a 'bait and switch' with what was advertised vs what we got, and I have to agree.

That was Polygon. Yes...I knew that off the top of my head. Pathetic right?
I think the reason Sumo didn't go the E3 demo route is because not everyone will have someone to play with or will want to play with someone. So creating a level that requires the use of all 4 characters would actually hurt the game more. The PS4 version doesn't even let you play online if you do not have a sub to PS+. I'm sure not being able to progress through the story unless you cough up more $$$$$$$$ would've earned this game and instant 0.

@fumetsusozo I prefer playing the story levels over the community levels as well- for the same reason. I need at least some story/plot, regardless or how minor it may be, for me to get through and want to play a community level. Even a simple "help me collect my missing xyz" works. Otherwise it's just as you said, a "generic obstacle course."
2014-11-19 06:05:00

Author:
catsand
Posts: 201


lol I don't care for any of those review sites but **** IGN is even dumber than usual. Glad I stopped reading them years ago.

I think the community is really gonna challenge you on that last point, but not me. I don't want those guns pointed at me!

Story mode is amazing. Easily the best. Haven't messed around in create too much yet but I did make a purty lil Batcave pretty fast. Now let me add a playable Batman character to it without freezing!
2014-11-19 15:13:00

Author:
Reef1978
Posts: 527


Did Sumo test the final copy of the game? It gets me wondering why all these glitches are here.2014-11-20 03:47:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


Maybe they did, but never ran into anyone of them. Ive been watching lets players play the game, and they havent ran into a single glitch yet.2014-11-24 19:03:00

Author:
XX_sonicfan_XX
Posts: 265


What ultimately bugs this is how LB3 is even better than LBP2, yet it still gets a lower score. Nostalgia aside, this makes no sense.

I feel like all reviews these days are negative. Every bleeping game since The Last of Us has lost score due to 'lacking campaign', yet I enjoy all the games that the developers claim have this issue. Think about LBP's campaign compared to LBP3's. We have come a long way, but scores are going down...

Ultimately, I feel like it's cool to hate on everything these days. People feel rebellious and important when they hate something that others say is good. I ultimately stopped watching reviews and disabled comments on my browser to avoid this negativity train (negativitron haha).
2014-11-25 03:47:00

Author:
AnonymousGlasses
Posts: 11


People talking about 'bait and switch' because SUMO threw together a level to show off all four characters in a stage demo? My goodness, is that really what Polygon said? This is unbelievably stupid ... sorry.2014-11-25 12:03:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


What ultimately bugs this is how LB3 is even better than LBP2, yet it still gets a lower score. Nostalgia aside, this makes no sense.

That actually makes perfect sense. At least, from the perspective of similarities between the two. It's the same game with great new added tools. We got what CoD couldn't do; make the same game, but add in much more to change it up for the better. And then we have the bugs in LBP3, which for some, does ruin the entire experience.

At the moment, the current score for the game may be fitting. The story, though good in the idea, DOES feel somewhat rushed and I believe most would agree that it could have been much longer. The create, though amazing, seems to be full of bugs as well, which has caused a little worry for some who have thought of touching their moon. I do not plan on starting back up on any projects until I feel that the create is in a good state. At the moment, i fear that something may happen and keep me from making what I want to make, so i just fiddle with the new tools.



People talking about 'bait and switch' because SUMO threw together a level to show off all four characters in a stage demo? My goodness, is that really what Polygon said? This is unbelievably stupid ... sorry.

i guess some were expecting to play as all four at once...? If so, I haven't the slightest idea as to how they had planned on that working.
2014-11-25 12:30:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


i guess some were expecting to play as all four at once...? If so, I haven't the slightest idea as to how they had planned on that working.

I know LOL. I saw interview after interview, and they ALL asked the question about how all the characters would play together. Even previews posed the question and I was just taken aback by the question even existing. It was so clear to me why that stage demo existed and it was so clear to me why you wouldn't be playing levels like that (other than in community levels), I actually verbalised my disbelief on many occasions while watching or reading said previews ... and then the reviews started docking points for it. Gobsmackingly dense.
2014-11-25 12:51:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


People talking about 'bait and switch' because SUMO threw together a level to show off all four characters in a stage demo? My goodness, is that really what Polygon said? This is unbelievably stupid ... sorry.

Other games get called out when their demo isn't representative of the final product. LBP shouldn't get special treatment just because it is a game we like.
2014-11-25 14:16:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Other games get called out when their demo isn't representative of the final product. LBP shouldn't get special treatment just because it is a game we like.

It's nothing to do with it being a game we like, it's about engaging common sense. It was a level designed for E3 to introduce and show off all the new characters. SUMO was interviewed dozens of times and in every one of those interviews was asked this very question. In everyone of those interviews they answered in exactly the same way: It was a demo put together to show the new characters off. The message was clear, concise and repeated over and over. Don't sites like Polygon follow the news? Don't they do just a little research?

I'm sure someone from the community will make a level in which all the characters can be played but good luck on building a game with 4 separate paths that in no way intercept in a game breaking way.
2014-11-25 14:19:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


And what if common sense tells you that by seeing the game demoed in that way you should expect the final product to be built around the same concept.2014-11-25 14:34:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Here is an example, they kept showing off Swoop carrying sackboy. You don't do that once in the game. (unless it's in a 2x level, which I don't count. I hate the entire concept of needing others to 100% the game)2014-11-25 14:58:00

Author:
Biv
Posts: 734


And what if common sense tells you that by seeing the game demoed in that way you should expect the final product to be built around the same concept.

Then you close down your so called gaming website and take up some other business. I got bored of hearing/reading the same question and hearing/reading the same answer. I'd already got the answer without the need for a question anyway and couldn't believe people were still asking a question to which the answer was obvious. Did you or they actually believe you would be able to play as any character at any time in any level? Did you or they actually believe that LBP3 was going to be co-op only? Did you or they actually believe there should have been three stage demos at E3 showing all the new character? Anyway I look at this I see a complete disengagement of common sense.

I can't even believe this is a discussion to be honest. I'm gobsmacked that some people didn't get it.
2014-11-25 15:05:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


Its not like character switching in games is some unprecedented thing that has never been done before.2014-11-25 15:39:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I've seen the somewhat less than stellar reviews, but they haven't dampened my anticipation for the game. (Not out until Friday in the UK) LBP2 is one of my favourite games ever, and LBP3 will have all of the tools, plus more, and keep adding to the pile of 9 million levels. My only gripe is that I'll have to play through my DLC packs again on PS4 to unlock the content. Seems to me that Sumo could've found some way to port over collected items.2014-11-25 16:47:00

Author:
Avatar_of_Chaos
Posts: 48


updated to include a new review- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSyjU3HeRt0 nothing but praise

I'm sure SUMO knew about the bugs but could not do much about them- developers do have deadlines. ...holiday shopping...............
2014-11-25 20:22:00

Author:
catsand
Posts: 201


The funny thing is, they were only talking about story mode lol. If they wanted to play a level where you use all 4 characters, why don't they just create it?2014-11-25 20:59:00

Author:
gurren009
Posts: 2592


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