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So in their wisdom...the powers that be deemed LBP3s release should be delayed for a week in Europe/UK http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/LittleBigPlanet/LittleBigPlanet-3-Coming-to-Europe-26th-November/td-p/22400611/highlight/false I read the announcement.. I read the spurious,sophic reasoning behind the decisions that have been taken and bottom line is it's all about the money! once again the true nature of those who run the business side of LBP is evident...it's all about making a big publicity splash drawing new folks in to the LBP experience and more money...but what of the existing community who have been dedicated and loyal for over 5 years? Once again business expediency and pressures are paramount not community spirit..what of the PLAY-SHARE ethos? Instead of being able to enjoy the precious once in a lifetime of playing and sharing the fun-filled intial experience with many friends across the atlantic the community is forcibly divided by those money grubbing worms seeking to wring out the best scenario for their profit margins regardless of the wishes of the community. I'd happily wager a larger proportion of week one sales will come from former players or existing sackfolk rather than newcomers..once again showing what an ill considered decision this is...another slap in the face for community spirit.. It would be wonderful if SCEE could demonstrate a little of the share spirit inherent in the game and reverse this decision taken for financial reasons to the detriment of the community.

2014-10-10 20:26:00 Author: EnochRoot Posts: 533

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Pointless, isn't it? Now we in the UK (where the game was DEVELOPED, of all places) and Europe have to wait an extra 5 days. Now it'll be an 8-day-gap between the USA receiving it and the UK receiving it. Frankly, I'm annoyed.

2014-10-10 20:36:00 Author: The11thWheatley Posts: 230

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Usa! Usa! Usa!

2014-10-10 21:14:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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Money money money guess where it comes from. Did you guess the community? Well done. And what makes our community bigger? Not getting burried underneath all the bigger releases.

2014-10-10 21:16:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Money money money guess where it comes from. Did you guess the community? Well done. And what makes our community bigger? Not getting burried underneath all the bigger releases. A massive part of the games appeal is the playing experience, the joy of sharing the game with friends across the world...imagine the stink that would be kicked up if the latest CALL OF DUTY were scheduled for different weeks around the world? The games being scheduled for release around the same time are very different in appeal to different user bases....want a big publicity splash?... then promotion is key in partnership with vendors, retailers and media...don't penalise half the comunity.

2014-10-10 21:29:00 Author: EnochRoot Posts: 533

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Promotional parnerships will be occupided by all the bigger competition that has more money to throw around on it. As for diiferent demographics there's always a degree of cross-over with audiences and with a release scedule as crowded as this something always loses out and its usually the platformers that get the buy it later treatment.

2014-10-10 22:17:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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It's a shame that a part of the world has to miss out on this game for a longer period of time. Honestly it doesn't bother me as much because while I am in the US yes, I'm currently in the process of moving and my PS4 is packed up, so I only have my PS3, Vita, and 3DS to play. I'm still very excited for this game either way and it finally gives me a reason to play my PS4 (once I move into my new home that is).

2014-10-10 22:21:00 Author: amoney1999 Posts: 1202

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Usa! Usa! Usa! ...thanks. Your support is much appreciated.

2014-10-10 22:24:00 Author: The11thWheatley Posts: 230

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...thanks. Your support is much appreciated. Psst... BasketSnake is Norwegian...

2014-10-10 22:33:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Psst... BasketSnake is Norwegian... You don't have to be from the USA to support USA, silly.

2014-10-11 00:00:00 Author: Chdonga Posts: 388

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What is the point of moving it further a week? Wouldn't the games that the people bought that had come out during the previous week be taking attention away during the next week? Not to mention a bit of alienation of a part of the LBP community. It's also closer to the end of the month which is when people start to save more money for bills. Why not use the same tactic in America? Unless the American market on game-buying is that much different than in the UK. And a part of me thinks it's not really THAT much of a money reason. Perhaps partly, but maybe something else. Excuse seems odd!

2014-10-11 00:17:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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What is the point of moving it further a week? Wouldn't the games that the people bought that had come out during the previous week be taking attention away during the next week? Not to mention a bit of alienation of a part of the LBP community. It's also closer to the end of the month which is when people start to save more money for bills. Why not use the same tactic in America? Unless the American market on game-buying is that much different than in the UK. And a part of me thinks it's not really THAT much of a money reason. Perhaps partly, but maybe something else. Excuse seems odd! I think it really is. I'm Canadian, so my market is slightly different, and quite a bit in this case. But I do follow a lot of US media, so here's a bit of insight... I just listened to a Rooster Teeth podcast where they talk about The Crew being delayed from end of November to beginning of December. The first thing they said was something like "that doesn't make sense, why delay it only one week and miss Black Friday. Apparently that friday is where a lot of people get a LOT of their holiday shopping done in the US. There are a lot of big sales on that day and even if your product is full price, having it on shelves on that day supposedly ups the chances it'll make it under the xmas tree. On the podcast they suspected that it was being moved to avoid a crowded release day, but even then they seemed to think it was better to face the competition on Black Friday, rather than come out with no competition one week later. So I can see why Sony would make a strategic decision like this one. The game was developed in the UK yes, but they lose more (strategically speaking) by delaying in North America than in Europe. They have employed this tactic before, and it worked brilliantly. The PS4 itself was developed in Japan, but came out months later there then everywhere else. PS4 is the #1 selling new-gen console. Obviously the same strategy is being used here, and though a week late sucks (I would be bummed), it's likely a smart business decision. TL;DR version: Don't blame Sony, blame American shopping habits...

2014-10-11 00:48:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348

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2014-10-11 00:55:00 Author: James-p Posts: 286

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I think it really is. I'm Canadian, so my market is slightly different, and quite a bit in this case. But I do follow a lot of US media, so here's a bit of insight... I just listened to a Rooster Teeth podcast where they talk about The Crew being delayed from end of November to beginning of December. The first thing they said was something like "that doesn't make sense, why delay it only one week and miss Black Friday. Apparently that friday is where a lot of people get a LOT of their holiday shopping done in the US. There are a lot of big sales on that day and even if your product is full price, having it on shelves on that day supposedly ups the chances it'll make it under the xmas tree. On the podcast they suspected that it was being moved to avoid a crowded release day, but even then they seemed to think it was better to face the competition on Black Friday, rather than come out with no competition one week later. So I can see why Sony would make a strategic decision like this one. The game was developed in the UK yes, but they lose more (strategically speaking) by delaying in North America than in Europe. They have employed this tactic before, and it worked brilliantly. The PS4 itself was developed in Japan, but came out months later there then everywhere else. PS4 is the #1 selling new-gen console. Obviously the same strategy is being used here, and though a week late sucks (I would be bummed), it's likely a smart business decision. TL;DR version: Don't blame Sony, blame American shopping habits Holy shishkabobs! Black Friday had just zipped right past my head. xDD I usually don't do Black Friday. I think that's why I forgot about it. I knew I was forgetting something about that date and it was bothering the heck out of me. Yeah. Black Friday... If you've ever seen Jingle All the Way, it's much worse in real life. So that makes sense why they didn't do it in America, but even then; a week doesn't seem like enough time for the market to cool down from the previous purchases. Unless there's some sort of study that's been done or it's been successful in market practice where a week was plenty of time. As much as I hate to be presumptuous, I think most of the fans already will buy the game.

2014-10-11 01:18:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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Lets not forget that for many the end of the month is payday.

2014-10-11 01:20:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Holy shishkabobs! Black Friday had just zipped right past my head. xDD I usually don't do Black Friday. I think that's why I forgot about it. I knew I was forgetting something about that date and it was bothering the heck out of me. Yeah. Black Friday... If you've ever seen Jingle All the Way, it's much worse in real life. So that makes sense why they didn't do it in America, but even then; a week doesn't seem like enough time for the market to cool down from the previous purchases. Unless there's some sort of study that's been done or it's been successful in market practice where a week was plenty of time. As much as I hate to be presumptuous, I think most of the fans already will buy the game. I think they are dealing with the possibility of having last minute supply issues. Likely they want to pump as much supply as possible to America in time for Black Friday (seen some horror footage of Walmarts on that day btw lol), and instead of then having a short supply in Europe, and risking shortages in stores or delayed online orders, they are pushing the date back there so that on Day 1, people can actually get their hands on the game. If they are cutting it this way, my assumption is that they would love to delay the game a week or two everywhere, but they are trying to maximize sales across the board without dispersing the launch by too much. Looks like this game is going to be coming in hot! EDIT: I think this goes to show how big a deal this game is to Sony, that they are doing what they can to not fully delay the game. They probably have a lot riding on LBP3 sales doing well.

2014-10-11 01:55:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348

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I think they are dealing with the possibility of having last minute supply issues. Likely they want to pump as much supply as possible to America in time for Black Friday (seen some horror footage of Walmarts on that day btw lol), and instead of then having a short supply in Europe, and risking shortages in stores or delayed online orders, they are pushing the date back there so that on Day 1, people can actually get their hands on the game. If they are cutting it this way, my assumption is that they would love to delay the game a week or two everywhere, but they are trying to maximize sales across the board without dispersing the launch by too much. Looks like this game is going to be coming in hot! EDIT: I think this goes to show how big a deal this game is to Sony, that they are doing what they can to not fully delay the game. They probably have a lot riding on LBP3 sales doing well. Well this game is on fire! Conspiracy Theory: Sony uses LBP to look for great handheld and PS+ Store ideas to implement themselves, or hire a team (Or the LBP creator) to make it an actual game.

2014-10-11 01:59:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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Well this game is on fire! Conspiracy Theory: Sony uses LBP to look for great handheld and PS+ Store ideas to implement themselves, or hire a team (Or the LBP creator) to make it an actual game. I don't think that's a theory... I think It's their master plan!

2014-10-11 02:10:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348

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i dont see the problum im a game dev this happen all the time the devs just took a little mor then thay cude handel at lest it not like littlebighub

2014-10-11 02:19:00 Author: cuddelbunny Posts: 162

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I think they are dealing with the possibility of having last minute supply issues. Likely they want to pump as much supply as possible to America in time for Black Friday (seen some horror footage of Walmarts on that day btw lol), and instead of then having a short supply in Europe, and risking shortages in stores or delayed online orders, they are pushing the date back there so that on Day 1, people can actually get their hands on the game. If they are cutting it this way, my assumption is that they would love to delay the game a week or two everywhere, but they are trying to maximize sales across the board without dispersing the launch by too much. Looks like this game is going to be coming in hot! EDIT: I think this goes to show how big a deal this game is to Sony, that they are doing what they can to not fully delay the game. They probably have a lot riding on LBP3 sales doing well. Seems reasonable.

2014-10-11 02:21:00 Author: EleoMod Posts: 122

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Just to add to everyone's point, anyone who has worked retail in America can tell you there is no competition on Black Friday. EVERYTHING gets bought. Store shelves are emptied. If the item that everyone wants is gone, then they buy #2, and #3, and #4.... It's a madhouse and competition is a moot point. The day after Black Friday, there will not be a single copy of this game on store shelves from LA to NY and everywhere in between.

2014-10-11 02:46:00 Author: Biv Posts: 734

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Just to add to everyone's point, anyone who has worked retail in America can tell you there is no competition on Black Friday. EVERYTHING gets bought. Store shelves are emptied. If the item that everyone wants is gone, then they buy #2, and #3, and #4.... It's a madhouse and competition is a moot point. The day after Black Friday, there will not be a single copy of this game on store shelves from LA to NY and everywhere in between. Just out of curiosity, how much do video game prices drop on Black Friday? I'm assuming although LBP3 will be a brand new game it'll be discounted heavily?

2014-10-11 03:43:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952

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Yet the reasons stated on the official playstation forums are based around the marketing and promotion. The CM posted it's about letting sackboy shine rather than having to compete with other titles released on the same date..If only they would have more confidence in the titles ability to shift units and attract new players. SCEA is happy enough to release admist the madness of Black friday and the same time as other titles, maybe SCEE could reconsider and put community spirit first for once or even allow for an earlier date for digital download purchases.

2014-10-11 08:31:00 Author: EnochRoot Posts: 533

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I still can get it for Xmas!

2014-10-11 09:06:00 Author: Pan_Ziemniak Posts: 40

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I wouldn't mind so much if they hadn't given THIS as a reason: "This was a very difficult decision to make but since LittleBigPlanet is such a globally appealing game, it seemed only right to give more people the chance to get to know Sackboy and his new friends." I don't get it, how does delaying the game by five days give more people the chance to get to know Sackboy & Pals? (which, by the way, sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon that I would like RIGHT NOW please.)

2014-10-11 09:08:00 Author: The11thWheatley Posts: 230

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The CM posted it's about letting sackboy shine rather than having to compete with other titles released on the same date. Letting Sackboy shine is PR speak for we want to move away from the competition without having to admit it. If only they would have more confidence in the titles ability to shift units and attract new players This is the sixth LBP release they've done they will have a very good idea of its ability to shift units.

2014-10-11 09:25:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Well ain't this just dandy.

2014-10-11 12:58:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Just out of curiosity, how much do video game prices drop on Black Friday? I'm assuming although LBP3 will be a brand new game it'll be discounted heavily? I doubt it, actually. They may have a slight discount or be subject to an overall store discount, but new game cuts are not likely to be steep. What they may have is packaged deals, but two games or a console and get a game half off.

2014-10-12 01:30:00 Author: Biv Posts: 734

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Just out of curiosity, how much do video game prices drop on Black Friday? I'm assuming although LBP3 will be a brand new game it'll be discounted heavily? im a game dev and im not going tall you how much i make frum a day like black fryday let just say i cant pay my elctric bil so ya

2014-10-12 03:52:00 Author: cuddelbunny Posts: 162

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Letting Sackboy shine is PR speak for we want to move away from the competition without having to admit it. That's actually speak in general for moving away from the competition. A star doesn't shine as brightly in a sky full of them. Big fish in a small pond, or an average fish in the lake. If it is a shipping issue and being unable to supply enough games everywhere, then if they moved UK's date back and gave those games to the American's Black Friday sale, then perhaps the amount they would sale in America during that day would reach more people, than if they had shipped the game to the UK on the correct day. I give the creators the benefit of the doubt and say that it's not entirely for the money. Yes it is a good day to get a ton of sales, but it also gets more games to more people. I for one am all for more people playing this game. It's an amazing game! Honestly. I don't mind the move. I may live in the US, but the date move makes sense if they have a legitimate reason. If the game shines more, we get a bigger community. A bigger community means new players, creators, and more influence with the game. If we get more influence, the game gets even bigger in terms of being noticed which adds even more players, creators, and more influence. Which makes me wonder as to how big they want this game to get. I mean... It's a game where you can make other games. I honestly wouldn't even fully call this a game anymore. Are they hoping that it amasses a following to where a Minecraft-esque buyout happens? Are they hoping it gets so big that it becomes one of the Playstation's hooks? "You have Halo, and you have Mario, but we have LBP!" Are they just going to keep going until it dies, but then it'll become a buried-gem where the community is all only amazing creators? Or do they think we're all just idiots for buying the game and are just cashing in with DLC and sequels?!?! Anywhooooo... I'm all for the date move, but I do wish they were straight forward about it if they're doing it due to Black Friday or shipping issues. But then again... Would they have gotten more flak if they WERE honest? Leaving it to speculation means no one can truly focus their anger, but if they say it was, perhaps, the shipping, then people may go into an uproar like, "Why is America so SPECIAL?!"

2014-10-12 09:33:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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The suggested shipping issue arguement can be countered by two words: digital download Why can't they allow foks to purchase and download the digital copy at the same time?...the download consumers might be a different market base than those going to buy a physical hard copy version in various retail outlets...It's just a commercial decision taken with disregard for the the existing community....brought to you by the minds who thought it's a great idea to have an official contest sponsored by an insurance company.

2014-10-12 10:25:00 Author: EnochRoot Posts: 533

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This delay will sell three copies more than the original estimated sales numbers.

2014-10-12 16:32:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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This delay will sell three copies more than the original estimated sales numbers. If SCEE moves it back to the original release date I'll buy four copies!...do we have a deal Mr SONY?

2014-10-12 18:48:00 Author: EnochRoot Posts: 533

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The suggested shipping issue arguement can be countered by two words: digital download Why can't they allow foks to purchase and download the digital copy at the same time?...the download consumers might be a different market base than those going to buy a physical hard copy version in various retail outlets...It's just a commercial decision taken with disregard for the the existing community....brought to you by the minds who thought it's a great idea to have an official contest sponsored by an insurance company. Because then that would alienate parts of the market in the UK even more. It would mean that those who want a physical copy of the game have to wait while those who get a digital copy can get it earlier. Or maybe there's some sort of legal mumbo-jumbo keeping the release from being sold earlier as a digital copy. Or maybe if it was a digital copy, the servers would get overburdened? Not sure.

2014-10-13 06:50:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal Posts: 1799

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....just release it on the same day as America, jealous fans like myself will buy it. The week after they can promote it like crazy, the folks who they were afraid would miss it due to competition won't even realise its been released and buy it due to the amazing PR that week.... ....simple!

2014-10-13 10:33:00 Author: James-p Posts: 286

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Can't wait, but have to :whatever:

2014-10-13 11:31:00 Author: Schnupsi Posts: 506

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Upsetting for those in EU. I feel for you guys At least it isn't by a month or worse.

2014-10-16 19:32:00 Author: kevinunknown513 Posts: 21

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Upsetting for those in EU. I feel for you guys At least it isn't by a month or worse. Don't tempt fate!

2014-10-16 22:57:00 Author: EnochRoot Posts: 533

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That blog post doesn't contain much information but if I had to guess they need to delay the game for some last minute tweaks anyway and the only reason the delay won't be affecting the United States is because they do not want to miss Black Friday.

2014-10-19 06:50:00 Author: Aeolipyle Posts: 20

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