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The biggest sports tournament in the world is finally here. So.... who's watching? Is your country participating? If so, how far do you think you'll get? Will our US members be watching at all, considering football isn't one of the major US sports?

I don't have any faith whatsoever in the England team. I'll be surprised to see them get past the group stages.
2014-06-12 20:17:00

Author:
Ali_Star
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Brazils Got Tallent is crap that first dancing act was on for about 20 minutes and there's way to much time spent with the judges.2014-06-12 20:23:00

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Rabid-Coot
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I don't know anything at all about this sport you refer to as "sah-cur", but I do believe I've heard word on the grapevine that England is a shoe-in to win the "Trophy".2014-06-12 20:24:00

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RockSauron
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Brazils Got Tallent is crap that first dancing act was on for about 20 minutes and there's way to much time spent with the judges.

I'm sick of bloody dance acts. Let me guess what came next.... a singer?


I don't know anything at all about this sport you refer to as "sah-cur", but I do believe I've heard word on the grapevine that England is a shoe-in to win the "Trophy".

If England win the World Cup, I'll post a picture of myself in the ugly mugs thread.
2014-06-12 20:33:00

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Ali_Star
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HAHAHAHAHAHA come on Brazil! That's EMBARRASSING! It seems they can score but the way they do isn't the conventional one.2014-06-12 21:27:00

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FreeAim
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HAHAHAHAHAHA come on Brazil! That's EMBARRASSING! It seems they can score but the way they do isn't the conventional one.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/306/761/e97.gif
2014-06-12 22:15:00

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gdn001
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http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/306/761/e97.gif

It's easy to gloat when you support a good team that can only win when the ref hands them every decision.

In other news, why does Scolari insist on playing Hulk (yes non-football fans, there is a player nicknamed after the big green Marvel character)? Myself and pretty much every other football fan I know agree that he's useless!
2014-06-13 09:11:00

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Ali_Star
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It's easy to gloat when you support a good team that can only win when the ref hands them every decision.

In other news, why does Scolari insist on playing Hulk (yes non-football fans, there is a player nicknamed after the big green Marvel character)? Myself and pretty much every other football fan I know agree that he's useless!

Don't say such a thing! If the man is the goal-king of the world cup I'm getting 50€ cash.
2014-06-13 12:13:00

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FreeAim
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Don't say such a thing! If the man is the goal-king of the world cup I'm getting 50€ cash.

Yeeeeeeeeeah, good luck with that.
2014-06-13 12:45:00

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Ali_Star
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This is surreal.2014-06-13 13:32:00

Author:
Kalawishis
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Cameroon to beat Mexico 2-0. That is all.

Edit: May have ever so slightly got it wrong.
2014-06-13 17:23:00

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Shooter0898
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Hahahaha! I have guessed the game outcomes perfectly so far. I'm guessing 1-2 for Spain - Netherlands match, so we'll see...2014-06-13 20:20:00

Author:
FreeAim
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Hahahaha! I have guessed the game outcomes perfectly so far. I'm guessing 1-2 for Spain - Netherlands match, so we'll see...

Already 1-1. Two thirds of the way there. That said if you get this right do you become Paul's replacement?
2014-06-13 21:01:00

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Shooter0898
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Hahahaha! I have guessed the game outcomes perfectly so far. I'm guessing 1-2 for Spain - Netherlands match, so we'll see...

your streak may be over.
2014-06-13 21:38:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Well, I at least guessed the winner right.

1-5, Jesus. And it's not even over yet!
2014-06-13 21:41:00

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FreeAim
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I couldn't stop laughing. Now Chile Vs Australia. I believe a 1-0 win to Chile but so far every team I've supported have lost so well done Australia.2014-06-13 22:21:00

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Shooter0898
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That was one of the most exciting and horrifying matches I've ever watched. Would have much preferred Spain to win,and expected them to, but you really have to admire the way Holland played, they were on a different level of class and, as much as I hate him for his greed and diving, Robben was incredible.

Could never have guessed it. But I'm predicting a 2-1 win for Chile tonight, Aussies will have some fight but not enough I reckon.
2014-06-13 22:46:00

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craigmond
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And within ten minutes of starting I'm wrong...2014-06-13 23:34:00

Author:
Shooter0898
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When did Spain become so bad? I know we have a few Dutchie's on here, so good for them I suppose.2014-06-14 00:13:00

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Ali_Star
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When did Spain become so bad? I know we have a few Dutchie's on here, so good for them I suppose.

Spain is not bad. I mean, they did tie with Finland. That has to count for something.
2014-06-14 17:01:00

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FreeAim
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Well Columbia played a good game against Greece the 3-0 result was well deserved.

Now for Costa Rica to thrash Uruguay.
2014-06-14 19:55:00

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Shooter0898
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I'm glad the Greeks got battered. They play such dour defensive football, but usually find a way to sneak through the group stages. Not this year I hope.2014-06-14 20:22:00

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Ali_Star
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So looks like I was right 3-1 Costa Rica. Good news for whoever wins between England and Italy.

As much as my Scottish genes want England to be destroyed I predict a 2-0 victory for England. Italy aren't too much of a challenge and it appears Uruguay won't be either. Costa Rica could end up being a dark horse but whoever wins tonight has a great advantage.
2014-06-14 22:00:00

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Shooter0898
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Getting your butt swooped by the pea-sack of the entire tournament is dang embarrassing.

Uruguay... I trusted you.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/62a60e8bc51fac8755df63db956854d7/tumblr_n6zv7r1peY1rxqv68o4_r1_250.gif
2014-06-14 22:00:00

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FreeAim
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Getting your butt swooped by the pea-sack of the entire tournament is dang embarrassing.

Uruguay... I trusted you.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/62a60e8bc51fac8755df63db956854d7/tumblr_n6zv7r1peY1rxqv68o4_r1_250.gif

I was acctually supporting Costa Rica, do I get a prize?
2014-06-14 22:13:00

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Shooter0898
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You should've seen the reaction of people everywhere where I live when Mexico got 2 goals taken from them. Lol anyway I was actually quite impressed with the way they played. Maybe we can even classify to the next round 8)2014-06-14 23:59:00

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yugnar
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I don't know how to feel about that result. Thought England would win but still...

So Japan and Ivory Coast. Guess I'm not sleeping.
2014-06-15 00:59:00

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Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I don't know how to feel about that result. Thought England would win but still...

So Japan and Ivory Coast. Guess I'm not sleeping.

Not a fan of England at all, but to be fair they played a really good game. Their build up was pretty good and they looked really quick on the counter but they need more variation. In the first half they were particularly quick and really looked like they could score at any point. Their major flaw though, was not being able to actually finish. When they managed to get it in the box there were few there to pick up the ball and when they did, they couldn't hit the target.

So I wouldn't say it's all doom and gloom for England, and with the Uruguay result, they should feel confident going to play them next.
2014-06-15 01:41:00

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craigmond
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So Switzerland won. I personally thought Ecuador would have have won 1-0. However I got the France-Honduras result correct (3-0 to France). I predict the same result for Argentina but Costa Rica taught us that anything can happen.2014-06-15 22:00:00

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Shooter0898
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I'm still not over the fact that one of the most highly praised football countries actually lost to Costa Rica.

That's embarrassing.
2014-06-15 22:07:00

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FreeAim
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I'm still not over the fact that one of the most highly praised football countries actually lost to Costa Rica.

That's embarrassing.

There's no easy games in the WC. #footaballcliche
2014-06-16 09:28:00

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Ali_Star
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Germany is pretty dang good so I'm saying it's 3-0 win for them.

I'm also guessing Belgium is the surprise team this year, so I'm betting it's getting to top 3.
2014-06-16 09:38:00

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FreeAim
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Germany is pretty dang good so I'm saying it's 3-0 win for them.

I'm also guessing Belgium is the surprise team this year, so I'm betting it's getting to top 3.

I won't be too surprised if Belgium do well.

I don't think Germany's match will be that easy for them. I think the'll scrape it.

FYI, I'm expecting plenty of the American members in this thread tonight when they play Ghana.
2014-06-16 10:16:00

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Ali_Star
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I'm not usually into football (soccer) but I'm in a pool at work and have drawn Argentina. I've been watching a few games and have enjoyed them so far.2014-06-16 10:40:00

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Morgana25
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I'm not usually into football (soccer) but I'm in a pool at work and have drawn Argentina.

Lucky you! We didn't have one at my workplace, but my mum did and she drew Iran! :arg:

EDIT: Well I was massively wrong about the Germany v Portugal match!
2014-06-16 10:56:00

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Ali_Star
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Well Germany won in style (4-0).

I predict Nigeria to beat Iran. I'd say the score would be around 2-0. As for the next game I'll say I will be a draw between Ghana and the US. If anyone will win that game it'll be Ghana though.
2014-06-16 20:39:00

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Shooter0898
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Tomorrow Mexico vs Brasil/Brazil! Wooo that will be cool. I bet those Brazilians will want revenge after what happened in the last Olympic Games Hmmm I'm just kind afraid the referees might be a little biased 2014-06-17 06:10:00

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yugnar
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I'm glad I gave Iran vs Nigeria a miss. I think most people predicted it would be the worst game so far... they wouldn't have been disappointed!2014-06-17 11:23:00

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Ali_Star
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Well I was wrong about Ghana drawing wih USA. That 29 second goal was brilliant. Now Belgium has defeated Algeria (as of 85th minute) Brazil May beat Mexico however I think it's still possible for a Mexico win. Russia will also beat South Korea.2014-06-17 18:42:00

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Shooter0898
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Did Britain win the whole thing yet?

Cause that would be hilarious.
2014-06-17 20:24:00

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RockSauron
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Did Britain win the whole thing yet?

Cause that would be hilarious.



I do hope you're joking and not being a typical yank-who-doesn't-get-"soccer" guy?
2014-06-17 20:56:00

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Ali_Star
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I do hope you're joking and not being a typical yank-who-doesn't-get-"soccer" guy?

Me? Joke?

NEVER!
2014-06-17 21:26:00

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RockSauron
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Man that was an awesome game! Had me breathing like crazy the whole 90 mins :kz:2014-06-17 21:55:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


Me? Joke?

NEVER!

I can't wait to see the US National Baseball team in the World Series.
2014-06-18 10:52:00

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Ali_Star
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I can't wait to see the US National Baseball team in the World Series.

Yeah! I'd TOTALLY watch that!

... Well, I know we got like 50 different Major League teams and no national team. Not like I care, though
2014-06-18 14:36:00

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RockSauron
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So Brazil and Mexico drew. You know who else drew? Iran and Nigeria. The word Iran is a combination of the phrase "I ran". Let's take the "ran" part. What team Ran in the World Cup? Uruguay. Uruguay was defeated by Costa Rica. Costa Rica has one I. This I and Ran can make Iran who drew just like the hosts Brazil.

This proves without a doubt that Costa Rica will win the World Cup.
2014-06-18 17:17:00

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Shooter0898
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So Brazil and Mexico drew. You know who else drew? Iran and Nigeria. The word Iran is a combination of the phrase "I ran". Let's take the "ran" part. What team Ran in the World Cup? Uruguay. Uruguay was defeated by Costa Rica. Costa Rica has one I. This I and Ran can make Iran who drew just like the hosts Brazil.

This proves without a doubt that Costa Rica will win the World Cup.

0/10 did not end up as Half Life 3 confirmed.
2014-06-18 18:21:00

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Rabid-Coot
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0/10 did not end up as Half Life 3 confirmed.
Iran is the combination of the words "I" and "ran". If you take "I" away, you have "ran". The word "ran" has three letters. The rest, you can figure.

Anyway, I am kind of ashamed to have ever been optimistic about Spain maybe doing good. Chile destroyed them.
2014-06-18 21:01:00

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FreeAim
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Yep. Spain doing what France did 4 years ago was unexpected. At this point it's impossible for Cameroon to go through (currently down 4-0) but can still influence the final result of Group A so there is still a reason to watch their last game (although they are playing Brazil so it would be watched)

Tommorow Colombia and the Ivory Coast play which will be a tight game that can swing either way. Japan will probably beat Greece so at least Group C may stay interesting. England and Uruguay both need to ensure they take the three points. A draw could be disastrous especially to Uriguay as England have the benefit of playing the whipping boys afterwards. Yet Costa Rica could still pull a few surprises.

Tomorrow will certainly be interesting.
2014-06-19 00:32:00

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Shooter0898
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I'm glad Spain have gone out. Just like Barcelona, there was a time that everyone enjoyed their tika-taka brand of football. But now, people have become tired of both that, and their arrogance. Was wonderful to see them knocked down a few pegs.2014-06-19 09:13:00

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Ali_Star
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Walked passed this yesterday.

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276270/Article/images/21262008/6226416-large.jpg

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/World-Cup-crazy-East-Hull-neighbours-decorate/story-21262008-detail/story.html
2014-06-19 21:00:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Oh my. Shame they may now have to take it down. Italy must beat Costa Rica if England have any hope of progressing. Italy is now the team that can save their campaign but a draw will put them out. Even after that Costa Rica won't have to worry too much about the need to beat England as Italy can then finish Uruguay off.

What happens tommorow can create an interesting scenario.nengland need to hope out of the one desirable of the three possible results happen (although it is the most likely) Even with this one draw can end their Campaign so they are not likely to recover now. Only time will tell...
2014-06-19 23:05:00

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Shooter0898
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Oh well, looks like the United Kingdom national soccer team will fail miserably again.2014-06-20 09:18:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


You guys are watching France-Switzerland right now?

20 minutes of games, two brilliant goals! Hell yeah.
2014-06-20 20:24:00

Author:
Oddmania
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Okay, I'm calling it now: Costa Rica will win the World Cup. Honestly, they put Uruguay through a storm of hardships and devastated them, only to dismember and beat Italy down in the dirt. That's two-out-of-two track record in beating two of some of the best football teams in the entire world. And making it look easy.

Costa Rica is no longer the team it was before. It's a machine.

A victory machine.
2014-06-20 21:13:00

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FreeAim
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Crikey.... France will win it if they keep playing like this!2014-06-20 21:32:00

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Ali_Star
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FreAim has joined the righteous and now believes in Costa Rica. Excellent. Well GG England at least your on the level of Spain. France destroyed Switzerland but what happens with the group hangs in the balance with Ecuador-Honduras.2014-06-20 23:24:00

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Shooter0898
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Chile is the hipster team of choice. Back off Costa Rica!2014-06-21 20:21:00

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Ali_Star
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Argentina vs. Iran proved much more entertaing that I had thought. Quite a match did Iran give! Pretty unlucky to receive a goal at min. 91 2014-06-21 21:10:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


And Bosnia are out . Was really hoping they could get to the last 16.2014-06-22 12:32:00

Author:
Shooter0898
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Well. This is going to be an interesting evening.

I have no ideia how we'll fare against the US. Always hard to say with Portugal; our team is always very hit-or-miss. When they have their heads in the game they play beautifully. When they don't... well, you saw what happened against Germany.

Normally I'd be confident that we'll win the match, but this World Cup has been unpredictable to say the least.
2014-06-22 15:17:00

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SnipySev
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I seem to remember they beat you in the 2002 WC. Reason I always remember this is because (weird story coming up) the night after the match, I woke up in the middle of the night absolutely terrified out of my mind. I was convinced that something really terrible was going to happen, all because Portugal wanted revenge on the US. I'm not talking war or anything like that, more like hell on earth. After about 5 or 10mins I finally came to my senses and realised the stuff going through my head was complete nonsense, and went back to sleep. Not sure if I had a nightmare to trigger the thoughts, really odd indeed. Haven't experienced anything like it since.2014-06-22 15:56:00

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Ali_Star
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They did. 3-2 if I'm remembering right.

That is a weird dream. Why would you care about a match between Portugal and the US though? Aren't you English?
2014-06-22 16:16:00

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SnipySev
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They did. 3-2 if I'm remembering right.

That is a weird dream. Why would you care about a match between Portugal and the US though? Aren't you English?

Yes, I'm English, and it wasn't a dream... I was awake! As I said, I just woke up in a terrified state of mind, all because I thought some really bad **** was gonna go down as a result of USA's victory over Portugal.
2014-06-22 16:33:00

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Ali_Star
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Do you remember England vs Portugal during the Euro 2004? Now that was intense. One of the few matches that had me glued to the TV the whole time. There was so much tension during final penalty shoot-out I could feel my heart thumping inside my chest. After it was over, my hands were shaking from excitement.

I wish I could see a match like that again. It was crazy.
2014-06-22 16:50:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


My soul's with Belgium on this one. Let's see.2014-06-22 18:02:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I want whatever combination of results it takes to get a USA/Russia match and turn this into an 80's sport movie.2014-06-22 18:24:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
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I want whatever combination of results it takes to get a USA/Russia match and turn this into an 80's sport movie.

If Russia is involved it would rather turn into a spy-thriller.

EDIT: Gold:

http://likealaugh.org/mrcontent/2014/1403443802faiMeanwhileCostaRicainthegroupofdeath.j pg

(Costa Rica in the group of death.)
2014-06-22 20:11:00

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FreeAim
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I have the inescapable feeling that the portuguese team is going to screw this up.

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EDIT: Wow, that was an interesting game.

I'll be the first to admit though, the US deserved to win. Portugal's first goal only happened because that guy screwed up, and the second only because there was so much extra time. And at times we played pretty pitifully.

Congrats to the american team. For the only country that doesn't care much about football hey were great.

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EDIT 2 This is basically what happened during the last minute of the match. CAUTION: Game of Thrones Season 4 spoilers:

http://i.imgur.com/5pe2rlb.png
2014-06-22 23:02:00

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SnipySev
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No offence to you Snipy, but it was a real shame when that 2nd Portugal goal went in. Would've loved to see Portugal get knocked out, mainly because I would've loved to have seen the look on that petulant, arrogant SOB..... don't even need to say his name, you'll know who I mean. The way he was jumping about and smiling before the match; it was like he thought it'd be a cakewalk for him.2014-06-23 09:10:00

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Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


That Suarez is back to his biting antics, do we all look like Gingerbread men to him?2014-06-24 19:34:00

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craigmond
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Craig, can we please not talk about this. Like, not even jokingly. Concentrating on something as minor and as stupid as this is only great for ruining the atmosphere of the entire World Cup. Even joking about it is throwing gasoline into the fire.2014-06-24 21:21:00

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FreeAim
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http://a.pomf.se/phdzcy.gif

He's really going for it.
2014-06-24 23:59:00

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Rabid-Coot
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http://www.pbh2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/soccer-dive-gifs.gif

Pretty much sums up why I don't like soccer.
2014-06-25 00:10:00

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DominationMags
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Craig, can we please not talk about this. Like, not even jokingly. Concentrating on something as minor and as stupid as this is only great for ruining the atmosphere of the entire World Cup. Even joking about it is throwing gasoline into the fire.

It's not minor at all. It's one of the world's best players biting another player... I'd say that's pretty major. How can you not talk about it! Just like Zidane's headbutt in the 2006 WC final. Talking about it isn't going to ruin the atmosphere of the entire WC, there's been plenty of good stuff to talk about, eg this guy:

http://giant.gfycat.com/RichDarlingCockatiel.gif
2014-06-25 09:15:00

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Ali_Star
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I'd rather talk about the coach of the Mexican team. The man is a riot.2014-06-25 10:39:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I just hope all these plucky underdogs don't get knocked out in the next round. Mexico, Chile, Costa Rica have all impressed. Belgium haven't lived up to expectations so far, but Colombia are looking like the dark horses of the tournament. Impressive yesterday even after making quite a few changes.2014-06-25 10:57:00

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Ali_Star
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No offence to you Snipy, but it was a real shame when that 2nd Portugal goal went in. Would've loved to see Portugal get knocked out, mainly because I would've loved to have seen the look on that petulant, arrogant SOB..... don't even need to say his name, you'll know who I mean. The way he was jumping about and smiling before the match; it was like he thought it'd be a cakewalk for him.

You know, generally even we don't like him either. He's a diva and a drama queen... but he's a drama queen that plays really well. So we don't have a choice but to support him.
2014-06-26 16:29:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Well, that was a spectacle.

Maybe next time we'll get to see the Ronaldong.
2014-06-26 20:21:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Well, that was a spectacle.

Maybe next time we'll get to see the Ronaldong.
Not in front of the kids!

Also, even though I am not closely following the games, I do believe this World Cup is getting some of the "zuera" aura from Brazil. That, or this is the first World Cup widely "broadcasted" through the internet.
2014-06-27 01:29:00

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gdn001
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So, guys that follow this more than I do, I'm starting to feel like Argentina doesn't have the momentum it did. Should I be worried about their odds of finishing in the top 3? Germany seems to be on a roll.2014-06-27 09:47:00

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Morgana25
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So, guys that follow this more than I do, I'm starting to feel like Argentina doesn't have the momentum it did. Should I be worried about their odds of finishing in the top 3? Germany seems to be on a roll.

I don't think Argentina have had any kind of momentum, really. They've looked good in patches, but at times they've flattered to deceive. Just like Brazil. Germany are good going forward, but suspect at the back. Best team so far has arguably been Holland. But I honestly think it's wide open. We could have a surprise winner this year!
2014-06-27 09:52:00

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Ali_Star
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I disagree. I believe that Argentina has ever had momentum, occasionally being dang near unstoppable as a team. This year, I doubt they make it in the top 3, but all hope is not lost. They might. We'll see.2014-06-27 10:35:00

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FreeAim
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That penalty shoot-out though2014-06-28 20:04:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So, guys that follow this more than I do, I'm starting to feel like Argentina doesn't have the momentum it did. Should I be worried about their odds of finishing in the top 3? Germany seems to be on a roll.

Argentina WILL finish Top 3, their a south american team. And with Messi, Di Mar?a, Lavessi, Higua?n and Ag?ero up front, there is no need to worry about anything. Germany just look good because they had a very easy group, and Holland didn't have a difficult group either to be fair (but not very easy). The heat is the only reason Colombia (And James Rodriguez carrying the team), Mexico and Costa Rica in the game. They will be knocked out soon. But I wouldn't worry about Argentina, they have one of the best chances of winning it.
2014-06-29 13:45:00

Author:
dyna
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Argentina WILL finish Top 3, their a south american team. And with Messi, Di Mar?a, Lavessi, Higua?n and Ag?ero up front, there is no need to worry about anything. Germany just look good because they had a very easy group, and Holland didn't have a difficult group either to be fair (but not very easy). The heat is the only reason Colombia (And James Rodriguez carrying the team), Mexico and Costa Rica in the game. They will be knocked out soon. But I wouldn't worry about Argentina, they have one of the best chances of winning it.

Germany had Portugal, USA and Ghana in their group.... how on earth is that "very easy"? Whereas Argentina had Nigeria, Iran and Bosnia. I know which group I'd rather be in.
2014-06-29 15:16:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Germany had Portugal, USA and Ghana in their group.... how on earth is that "very easy"? Whereas Argentina had Nigeria, Iran and Bosnia. I know which group I'd rather be in.

The only decent player out of Portugal, USA and Ghana is Ronaldo. Thats it.
2014-06-29 18:10:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Wow! Netherlands vs Mexico turned out to be an epic game! Result was good for my soul but bad for my pool prospects!2014-06-29 19:00:00

Author:
Morgana25
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The reason Germany made its victories look easy is simple: their team is just really freaking strong.2014-06-29 19:08:00

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FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Man. Mexico gave the game of their lives. They almost won against all odds, against one of the best teams in the planet. And then Miguel Herrera (Mexico's couch) made the same mistake we've done since always... Are you winning? Minnimum advantage but winning? Ok, lets take out all the attackers and lets go to defend to our own area the rest of the game. You just can't do that against the Netherlands! Christ I'm so disappointed right now... Playing like they had never done before, losing as always when they were needed the most. I need a hug guys

That's not even the worst of it though. Every single game, the referees have been playing against us! In the first game vs. Cameroon, they took two legitimate goals from one of our attackers. Against Brazil, well, it is obvious the FIFA supports that team like crazy. Even though we beat Croatia 3-0, the referee took one clear penalty from us on the first half when the game was tied. Now this. Robben's penalty on min. 93 was totally faked. And if you see a repetition you will see that it was ABSOLUTELY ridiculous! But FIFA just won't implement real usage of technology to repeat and double-check referee decisions. Ridiculous! I'm so done with this ;-;
2014-06-29 19:09:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


Man. Mexico gave the game of their lives. They almost won against all odds, against one of the best teams in the planet. And then Miguel Herrera (Mexico's couch) made the same mistake we've done since always... Are you winning? Minnimum advantage but winning? Ok, lets take out all the attackers and lets go to defend to our own area the rest of the game. You just can't do that against the Netherlands! Christ I'm so disappointed right now... Playing like they had never done before, losing as always when they were needed the most. I need a hug guys

That's not even the worst of it though. Every single game, the referees have been playing against us! In the first game vs. Cameroon, they took two legitimate goals from one of our attackers. Against Brazil, well, it is obvious the FIFA supports that team like crazy. Even though we beat Croatia 3-0, the referee took one clear penalty from us on the first half when the game was tied. Now this. Robben's penalty on min. 93 was totally faked. And if you see a repetition you will see that it was ABSOLUTELY ridiculous! But FIFA just won't implement real usage of technology to repeat and double-check referee decisions. Ridiculous! I'm so done with this ;-;
Because magic free-kick spray is CLEARLY more important than the blind, stupid referees they hire.
2014-06-29 19:49:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


The only decent player out of Portugal, USA and Ghana is Ronaldo. Thats it.

Portugal, USA and Ghana are far better overall than Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria. If you believe otherwise then... well... I just don't know what to say.
2014-06-29 20:01:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Portugal, USA and Ghana are far better overall than Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria. If you believe otherwise then... well... I just don't know what to say.
No, USA, Ghana and Portugal are better, but that doesn't mean there very good does it? They are still moderate teams, but not good.
2014-06-29 20:46:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Prediction: Cristiano Ronaldo will get nominated for the best male actor in Academy Awards next year.2014-06-29 20:56:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


No, USA, Ghana and Portugal are better, but that doesn't mean there very good does it? They are still moderate teams, but not good.

But you said that Germany had a very easy group, and you played down Germany because of it. Yet now you're saying that they (Portugal etc) ARE better than Nigeria, Iran and Bosnia, yet you haven't played down Argentina because of that?

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/10/facepalm.jpg

Germany have looked good in a decent group. Argentina have looked ok in a poor group.
2014-06-29 21:19:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


But you said that Germany had a very easy group, and you played down Germany because of it. Yet now you're saying that they (Portugal etc) ARE better than Nigeria, Iran and Bosnia, yet you haven't played down Argentina because of that?

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/10/facepalm.jpg

Germany have looked good in a decent group. Argentina have looked ok in a poor group.
Well first, sorry but Nigeria > Ghana (Cup of nations)
Germany haven't played exceptionally well against the teams. Khediras horrific shot vs Portugal and a poor display at Ghana. Argentina have been all over the teams they have played. Argentina are better than Germany, they have proved that so far, and will go on to be one of the best teams in the world no doubt. I am not saying Germany are poor, they have the best keeper and RB in the world. However, they don't have the attacking power of Argentina, only defensive. Messi has potentially been one of the best players so far, followed by James Rodriguez carrying colombia. Argentina will prove greater than Germany because of the conditions they are playing in and the attacking talent they have.
2014-06-29 21:37:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Well first, sorry but Nigeria > Ghana (Cup of nations)
Germany haven't played exceptionally well against the teams. Khediras horrific shot vs Portugal and a poor display at Ghana. Argentina have been all over the teams they have played. Argentina are better than Germany, they have proved that so far, and will go on to be one of the best teams in the world no doubt. I am not saying Germany are poor, they have the best keeper and RB in the world. However, they don't have the attacking power of Argentina, only defensive. Messi has potentially been one of the best players so far, followed by James Rodriguez carrying colombia. Argentina will prove greater than Germany because of the conditions they are playing in and the attacking talent they have.

Disagree with a lot of that. Argentina we fortunate to beat Bosnia and Iran. Messi has had his moments (the goals) but his overall play has left a lot to be desired. Rodriguez hasn't carried Colombia, they've played well as a team. The one player in the tournament you could argue has carried his team is Neymar. How can you say Germany don't have the attacking power of Argentina?? They have Muller, Gotze, Ozil, Klose to name but a few. I'm not a Germany fan or anything, but you seem to be writing them off when they've been much better than Argentina so far. I don't think Argentina would've beaten Portugal 4-0.
2014-06-29 22:37:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Disagree with a lot of that. Argentina we fortunate to beat Bosnia and Iran. Messi has had his moments (the goals) but his overall play has left a lot to be desired. Rodriguez hasn't carried Colombia, they've played well as a team. The one player in the tournament you could argue has carried his team is Neymar. How can you say Germany don't have the attacking power of Argentina?? They have Muller, Gotze, Ozil, Klose to name but a few. I'm not a Germany fan or anything, but you seem to be writing them off when they've been much better than Argentina so far. I don't think Argentina would've beaten Portugal 4-0.

Muller, Gotze, Ozil, Klose are not as good as Messi, Di Maria, Higuain, Lavessi or Aguero. Argentina have shown such a strong attack, and to say they are weak and not good enough you beat Portugal 4-0 is a joke. Portugal have no defense and a poor attack. Ronaldo has scored the same amount of goals in the world cup as suarez has bit people. Argentina were all over Iran, but they were very unlucky and Iran played a very good defense. Once again, in know way am I stating that germany are bad, its just they will not win, and Argentina have a better chance of lifting the cup this year.
2014-06-29 23:05:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


The match was far and away anything but boring after the first goal.

My God, the sheer amount of ridiculousness in Costa Rica still going strong is a sight to behold.
2014-06-30 00:03:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


The goalie from Costa Rica is my new favorite player. Playing injured and kicking butt while doing it. Hope he gets a heroes welcome when he gets home. 2014-06-30 00:44:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


Cost Rica win was very pleasing. It was the crossbow on the toilet, to the Viper/Mountain-esq Mexico match.


Muller, Gotze, Ozil, Klose are not as good as Messi, Di Maria, Higuain, Lavessi or Aguero.

Debatable. Klose is the joint record WC goalscorer, and no matter how the goals go in, you can't argue that statistic. Aguero and Lavezzi have done nothing in this WC so far. You seem to be a big Argentina fan, but I can't see how narrowly beating Iran, narrowly beating Bosnia, and narrowly beating Nigeria gives them a good chance of winning the WC. They have good players at their exposure, but they'll have to up their game and play to their potential in the knockouts.
2014-06-30 09:31:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Debatable. Klose is the joint record WC goalscorer, and no matter how the goals go in, you can't argue that statistic. Aguero and Lavezzi have done nothing in this WC so far. You seem to be a big Argentina fan, but I can't see how narrowly beating Iran, narrowly beating Bosnia, and narrowly beating Nigeria gives them a good chance of winning the WC. They have good players at their exposure, but they'll have to up their game and play to their potential in the knockouts.
Saying its debatable because he scored the most goals in the world cup is silly. By your logic, Klose is a better player than Ronaldo and Pele. Just because hes scored in the world cup doesn't me him better than Argentinas' attack. I don't believe Klose has ever been in the team of the year.
And to narrowly beating Iran, I question if you saw the stats for that game. Bosnia, they were winning 2-0 and conceded in the 85 minute, and Nigeria ,who are a decent team, Argentina kept taking the lead past them. I don't see why you have to keep saying Argentina have a poor attack and don't have a very good chance of winning.
2014-06-30 18:40:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


I don't see why you have to keep saying Argentina have a poor attack and don't have a very good chance of winning.

Are you even reading what I'm saying?
You seem to be bigging up Argentina as if they've played like world beaters, against mediocre teams. We get it, you love Argentina, but they haven't been that great so far. Remember WC 2006? They started like a house on fire, Riquelme bossed every match. But then they suffered towards the end. They'll have to up their game if they want to win. Can't keep relying on Messi to bail them out of matches.
2014-06-30 19:10:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Are you even reading what I'm saying?
You seem to be bigging up Argentina as if they've played like world beaters, against mediocre teams. We get it, you love Argentina, but they haven't been that great so far. Remember WC 2006? They started like a house on fire, Riquelme bossed every match. But then they suffered towards the end. They'll have to up their game if they want to win. Can't keep relying on Messi to bail them out of matches.

I don't even love Argentina, if anything, you hate them, thinking Klose is better than Messi or Di Maria. How Messi has "bailed them" out of matches i don't know. Higuain, Di Maria and Aguero have been setting up for him, and there shots have been stopped very well. Obviously, that doesn't matter to you, you just think Argentina is a one man team apparently.
2014-06-30 19:47:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


I don't even love Argentina, if anything, you hate them, thinking Klose is better than Messi or Di Maria. How Messi has "bailed them" out of matches i don't know. Higuain, Di Maria and Aguero have been setting up for him, and there shots have been stopped very well. Obviously, that doesn't matter to you, you just think Argentina is a one man team apparently.

Didn't say Klose was better than Messi and Di Maria. You keep putting words in my mouth. Anyway, let's just draw a line under this now, move on and enjoy the rest of the World Cup. We'll resume this discussion when Switzerland beat Argentina tomorrow.
2014-06-30 21:10:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Didn't say Klose was better than Messi and Di Maria. You keep putting words in my mouth. Anyway, let's just draw a line under this now, move on and enjoy the rest of the World Cup. We'll resume this discussion when Switzerland beat Argentina tomorrow.

Guess we're never resuming this discussion then 8(
2014-07-01 20:48:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Guess we're never resuming this discussion then 8(



Argentina were the better team, but a lot of fortune towards the end with that Dzemaili chance. Messi did well, but he wasn't helped by his team mates. I think BBC said Di Maria gave the ball away 51 times?? But then he took his goal well, so the rest of his performance will be forgotten.
They have a lot of fancy skillfull players in attack, but are lacking a centre midfielder who can dictate the play. Someone like Xavi or Schweinsteiger for example.
2014-07-01 21:02:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Wow! Amazing Belgium vs USA game! My heart was in my throat the whole time!2014-07-02 00:03:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


So a few days rest then the quarter-finals. So we have France playing Germany, Brazil playing Colombia, Costa Rica playing the Netherlands and Argentina playing Belgium.

An interesting few games. I think All games could go either way but do think France, Colombia, Costa Rica and Belgium.

My reasoning is I feel that France are the better team and have performed better. Colombia have showed they are more than capable of winning games and considering Brazil had to win on penalties against Chile who, let's face it, should have won without penalties. Costa Rica have shown they can handle the bigger teams considering their group of death. The Dutch on the other hand are still doing great and are in excellent form whereas Costa Rica's momentum has been declining. But I am supporting Costa Rica (for the cup) so... This leaves Belgium. Argentina should have beaten Switzerland but required extra time to do so. Belgium did need extra time but I felt that their game could have gone either way to be honest.

This is the World Cup, anything can happen.
2014-07-02 01:49:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Tim Howard was such a boss. They should just make 10 clones of him and make a team composed solely of Tim Howards.2014-07-02 04:45:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Wow! Amazing Belgium vs USA game! My heart was in my throat the whole time!

First 90mins was ok, but extra time was bonkers.


Tim Howard was such a boss. They should just make 10 clones of him and make a team composed solely of Tim Howards.

Indeed. Then play Neuer as a sweeper!
2014-07-02 09:53:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Nooooo, France are out...No more Valbuena heights jokes.....48398
Hes 0.17m taller than the corner flag

BREAKING: Team doctor Rodrigo Lasmar confirms Neymar suffered a broken vertebra and is out of the World Cup
2014-07-04 21:42:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


I'm sad for France, but they clearly didn't play their best last night. Germany deserved to win the match.

Anyway, Brazil-Colombia was much more interesting. Both teams were incredible. David Luis really impressed me.
2014-07-05 13:48:00

Author:
Oddmania
Posts: 1305


Brazil are screwed without Neymar. Not like he played well yesterday, but they rely on him so much.2014-07-05 15:05:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Really? I mean, if I would have to say the absolutely most disappointing team of this competition, it's Columbia hands down. They were decent in their first three matches but after that they have dropped the ball in every game. Last time, their game was just terribly awkward to watch. Brazil didn't do much better in their last match either, but at least they have the referees on their side *self-five*.2014-07-05 15:18:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


My word Belgium are bad.2014-07-05 19:00:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Argentina is still in good news for me!2014-07-05 20:22:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


Now for a Costa Rican victory :hero:

(Hopefully as all my other predictions have been wrong so far.)
2014-07-05 21:11:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I'm hoping for an Brasil x Argentina final for maximum HUE, but I do believe that Germany will crush Brasil now that they don't have Neymar to carry the team.2014-07-05 21:56:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


That was honestly the best game played so far. Navas definitely stole the show with his fantastic performance and I'm sad to see Costa Rica go out.2014-07-05 23:54:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Now for a Costa Rican victory :hero:

(Hopefully as all my other predictions have been wrong so far.)

Awww man I was hoping the best for this team, but Netherlands stood in the end. Their penalty-specialist goal keeper was excellent. I usually stand with Netherlands but as this time they eliminated Mexico I really hope they don't win the championship :kz:
2014-07-05 23:56:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


Germany will beat Brazil easy and Argentina will beat The Netherlands which will result in a German victory over Argentina in the final and the Netherlands will beat Brazil in the 3rd place final.2014-07-06 02:02:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


That was honestly the best game played so far. Navas definitely stole the show with his fantastic performance and I'm sad to see Costa Rica go out.

Best game? Really? I've seen a few people say this. To me it was like a typical Game of Thrones episode. Nothing much happened through most of the episode, then the last few mins made you stand up and say "OMGWTFBBQ" and declare it the best episode ever.
2014-07-06 11:33:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Best game? Really? I've seen a few people say this. To me it was like a typical Game of Thrones episode. Nothing much happened through most of the episode, then the last few mins made you stand up and say "OMGWTFBBQ" and declare it the best episode ever.

Legend
To be fair, Costa Rica have played well, but I wouldn't say that's their best game. The team I have been most impressed with is Algeria. Got to the Round of 16 for the first time, and are donating $9m to the people of Gaza because "they need it more" Massive respect for each and everyone of them, there country should be proud.
2014-07-06 11:42:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Legend
To be fair, Costa Rica have played well, but I wouldn't say that's their best game. The team I have been most impressed with is Algeria. Got to the Round of 16 for the first time, and are donating $9m to the people of Gaza because "they need it more" Massive respect for each and everyone of them, there country should be proud.

Certainly makes a change from teams like Ghana and Cameroon, who are making a fuss over their pay and behaving like spoilt children.
2014-07-06 12:10:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


'Tis a tragedy.

Brazilian's everywhere are consecutively crying.
2014-07-08 21:26:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


'Tis a tragedy.

Brazilian's everywhere are consecutively crying.
I must have the appropriate narration for this match somewhere...
Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnrZ9oELKiw
2014-07-08 21:31:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


No doubt a lot of the Brazilian press will blame the Neymar injury, but let's be honest.... they wouldn't have stood a chance anyway with a defence as shambolic as this!2014-07-08 21:40:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Jesus. How many suicides in Brazil tonight? I really feel for them... ;_;2014-07-08 22:02:00

Author:
Oddmania
Posts: 1305


Found a perfect equivalent of Brazil hosting the World Cup and playing in it too:

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3r6k3DAkR1rnzriso1_500.gif
2014-07-08 22:27:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Now the german LBPC community is happy 8D
Sorry for brazil...
2014-07-08 22:43:00

Author:
Hanfi1311
Posts: 776


Brazil comeback begins now.2014-07-08 22:46:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Well that was a close game.2014-07-08 22:48:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


That game was like watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. This was a massacre :kz:2014-07-08 22:51:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


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https://31.media.tumblr.com/17f9b28898a912a27e67803d591e2ead/tumblr_inline_n8ewv73DLh1rd1fqv.png

This showed up at my Tumblr's dashboard and it's all gold... unlike Brazil's cup at the end of the tournament, if they get one.
2014-07-09 01:21:00

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FreeAim
Posts: 2462


http://i.imgur.com/JNUZpnA.png2014-07-09 01:44:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Our team during this world cup:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/500/857/04b.gif
2014-07-09 01:50:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


That was... brutal. Excruciatingly brutal.

Brazil, one of the countries that adores football the most lost 7-1 in their home court. In a World Cup they're hosting. Brazilians are never going to live this down.

I visited Porto before the match today and I saw a lot of brazilians around wearing their colors... can't help but feel bad for them.
2014-07-09 02:20:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Are the protests going to start up again now?2014-07-09 03:46:00

Author:
Kalawishis
Posts: 928


Are the protests going to start up again now?
Probably for a month or two max, then we go back to our comfortable lives.
2014-07-09 12:13:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Hoping tonight's game won't be as painful to watch.

I'm still rooting for Argentina but I don't know if I can watch Argentina vs Germany... too stressful!

Best of luck to the Netherlands tonight too. If I didn't have money on the game I'd be rooting for them.
2014-07-09 14:18:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


If Argentina win the world cup it'll be a travesty. Awful team. Rely too much on Messi, and when he can't get into the game (like last night), they really struggle. I really do hope Germany win in the final (sorry Morgana). Because if Argentina win, they'll probably be the worst world cup winners in recent memory.2014-07-10 09:12:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I don't think Argentina can win. This year Germany is simply in a class by itself.

We have Ronaldo. Brazil has Neymar. Argentina has Messi. But Germany has a team.
2014-07-10 09:20:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I don't think Argentina can win. This year Germany is simply in a class by itself.

We have Ronaldo. Brazil has Neymar. Argentina has Messi. But Germany has a team.

I just have a horrible feeling that they'll somehow find a way. As they have done throughout the whole of the tournament in getting to the final.
2014-07-10 09:35:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


No worries If I wasn't in the pool I'd have been rooting for Holland and the USA anyway.2014-07-10 11:46:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


I just have a horrible feeling that they'll somehow find a way. As they have done throughout the whole of the tournament in getting to the final.

I really hope Germany will win the cup.
In my opinion we have the better team, but each game is a new one and yes, somehow Argentina managed to win at the end of each match.
So, I think this will be exiting.

@Morgana: I bet it will be very stressfull. Nevertheless I?ll watch it
2014-07-10 11:53:00

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avundcv
Posts: 2526


Germany will win with 2 or 3 goals vs Messi's 1.2014-07-10 13:27:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


I have encountered feelings regarding the final. I just wanted to see the Netherlands out of the final, so yeah :kz: I don't know who to support. As an "american" (referring to the continent ) I'd support Argentina, but I also love Germany's playstyle, also I have a lot of German friends. I'm ok with any result, I just hope the final proves to be a much more interesting and exciting game than what we witnessed in the semi finals.2014-07-10 16:30:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478


I just hope the final proves to be a much more interesting and exciting game than what we witnessed in the semi finals.

In fairness, the first semi final was interesting... but not exactly for the right reasons.

For the final, I want a good competitive match. No diving/play acting, no controversial ref decisions. I want goals, I don't want extra time and penalties, and lastly I want the Germans to win.
2014-07-10 16:42:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I really couldn't care less about who wins in the finals. I mean, by default I'm going to root for Argentina, because I really really want them to be recognized. Germany, Brazil and Holland have all been in spotlight already, give Argentina the chance! But apart from that, I don't think it really moves me in any way if Germany wins, so... whatever.

The bronze-final is more interesting to me, since if Holland wins that, I'll be getting 50€ on my bank account and therefore I will have more than enough money by the time Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire come out, so I can buy me a 3DS and one of the 3rd gen remakes.
2014-07-10 22:33:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


The bronze-final is more interesting to me, since if Holland wins that, I'll be getting 50€ on my bank account and therefore I will have more than enough money by the time Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire come out, so I can buy me a 3DS and one of the 3rd gen remakes.

3rd place play-off, get it right! This ain't the Olympics, buddy!
2014-07-11 09:19:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


So glad the Dutch didn't make the final, in my opinion they didn't deserve to win against Mexico and they play way too dirty.

Thinking it's going to be Germany's final though, they've been fantastic the whole tournament and in previous world cups they have come within inches of reaching the place they are now, they deserve it the most imo. That said, I reckon Argentina will get a bit of a boost knowing that they could go out and win the world cup in their rival country. But Germany's win against Brazil will have, no doubt, built a huge air of confidence in the team and could be difficult to stop.
2014-07-11 14:52:00

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craigmond
Posts: 2426


3rd place play-off, get it right! This ain't the Olympics, buddy!

I'm feeling a personal sense of quilt for using this same image as reaction to different things twice a week, but it's literally called bronze-final in Finnish, so...

http://i.imgur.com/tS0OhGu.jpg
2014-07-11 15:40:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I'm feeling a personal sense of quilt

wow
much comfy
so bed covering





Am I doing it right?
2014-07-11 16:38:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


wow
much comfy
so bed covering





Am I doing it right?

Bruh, do you even doge?
48453

Hope argentina win, soley because I have money on them
2014-07-11 22:39:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


wow
much comfy
so bed covering





Am I doing it right?
The only reason I won't continue posting the same pic is because there are more important matters at hand. I do say, though, that if you do that, at least bother to make a proper picture.

Anyway, I can barely contain myself from seeing Brazil get smacked down again in the BRONZE-FINAL, because even though I was originally rooting for them, they don't deserve to win since they constantly put their faith on wrong players. Hulk, for example, gives staggering performances in these games, but whoever decided to hide him as far away from the front as it's possible for an attacking player to be clearly wanted not to win at these games. So, why should I?

Besides, if Holland wins, it's money-time. For me, at least.
2014-07-11 23:05:00

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So who will the Brazilians support, their rival Argentina or the team that humiliated them?2014-07-12 01:23:00

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So who will the Brazilians support, their rival Argentina or the team that humiliated them?

I'd say Germany.

1) They don't have a rivalry with Germany.
2) If Germany win, they can at least take some comfort in the fact that they were beaten by the eventual winners.
2014-07-12 11:49:00

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I saw this on some website, thought it should be shared 484562014-07-12 20:27:00

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dyna
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Watching today's match, like

https://31.media.tumblr.com/fa9bdb11135d522c106866b71a1efff4/tumblr_inline_mwfog0vNWo1qgdg0r.gif
2014-07-12 22:48:00

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FreeAim
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Dayum. I think Germany broke Brazil permanently.2014-07-12 22:54:00

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I saw this on some website, thought it should be shared 48456

Why should it be shared? Neymar wants his club teammate to win the World cup. Hardly a shock. And again it kinda promotes the idea that Argentina are a one man team. "I want Argentina to win because Messi".
2014-07-13 10:58:00

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Ali_Star
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Why should it be shared? Neymar wants his club teammate to win the World cup. Hardly a shock. And again it kinda promotes the idea that Argentina are a one man team. "I want Argentina to win because Messi".

Brasil and Argentina are rivals. Why would you support a rivaling club? an one man team, yeah, Higuian, Di Maria, Lavessi, Perez, Rojo and Mascherano are all rubbish aren't they :////
2014-07-13 15:40:00

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dyna
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Brasil and Argentina are rivals. Why would you support a rivaling club? an one man team, yeah, Higuian, Di Maria, Lavessi, Perez, Rojo and Mascherano are all rubbish aren't they :////

Di Maria is injured. Rojo isn't great, haven't seen enough of Perez, Lavezzi hasn't done anything so far, Higuain hasn't done that much. I'll agree with you on Mascherano though. And so what if Neymar wants Messi to win? Neymar is an overrated diving little ?$%&.

Put it this way, the first thing anyone talks about when discussing Argentina is Messi, the rest of the players are an afterthought. You seem to be the only person I know who doesn't think Messi has carried Argentina. Of course, you're allowed to want Argentina to win, no problem with that, but I just don't get why you can't see it. Even the pundits say the same.
2014-07-13 15:49:00

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Ali_Star
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Di Maria is injured. Rojo isn't great, haven't seen enough of Perez, Lavezzi hasn't done anything so far, Higuain hasn't done that much. I'll agree with you on Mascherano though. And so what if Neymar wants Messi to win? Neymar is an overrated diving little ?$%&.

Put it this way, the first thing anyone talks about when discussing Argentina is Messi, the rest of the players are an afterthought. You seem to be the only person I know who doesn't think Messi has carried Argentina. Of course, you're allowed to want Argentina to win, no problem with that, but I just don't get why you can't see it. Even the pundits say the same.

The reason they talk about him is probably because he is one of the greatest players in the world. Thats just common sense. Neymar is overrated? Yet he carries his team according to you? He is fantastic, so much skill, great passion and a fantastic player overall, better than most of Germanys attack (and don't even go on about Klose and his 16 WC Goals and how hes so amazing, all his goals were before the penalty spot).And saying Di Maria being injured makes him not a good player is a joke. The games he played he was fantastic. Perez was brilliant vs Holland, making lots of runs and great passes, and Lavessi was just mugging off the dutch defense. Higuain has had many good chances, and too say he hasn't done that much is a joke. Just because you fanboy over Germany doesn't mean you can just say everyone other team is a one man team and say they're bad. I don't support Argentina, but they are good, and you saying they are a on man team is an absolute joke.
2014-07-13 16:46:00

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dyna
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The reason they talk about him is probably because he is one of the greatest players in the world. Thats just common sense. Neymar is overrated? Yet he carries his team according to you? He is fantastic, so much skill, great passion and a fantastic player overall, better than most of Germanys attack (and don't even go on about Klose and his 16 WC Goals and how hes so amazing, all his goals were before the penalty spot).And saying Di Maria being injured makes him not a good player is a joke. The games he played he was fantastic. Perez was brilliant vs Holland, making lots of runs and great passes, and Lavessi was just mugging off the dutch defense. Higuain has had many good chances, and too say he hasn't done that much is a joke. Just because you fanboy over Germany doesn't mean you can just say everyone other team is a one man team and say they're bad. I don't support Argentina, but they are good, and you saying they are a on man team is an absolute joke.

Germany is a classic case of the sum being better than the individual pieces. No out and out world beaters (except for Neuer perhaps), but a side with great players that performs as a team. If their best player has an off day, they can still go on to win the match.

Neymar IS overrated and he DOES carry the Brazil team. I mean, look at the rest of the Brazil squad - Fred is hopeless, Hulk is hopeless, Oscar is good, Luiz is hopeless in defence (he should play in midfield not at the back), likewise with Marcelo. For a so called "top" team to have so many hopeless players is unbelievable. Look at the Brazil teams of the past, with the likes of Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Cafu.... I could go on. Now compare that with the side of today! They lucked it to the semi final, due to some dodgy refs.
With regards to Di Maria, all I said was that he was injured. He hasn't been fantastic in all the games, you seem to be forgetting that match where he gave away the ball 50 odd times. That's poor. Top players shouldn't be doing that.

OK, regardless of however highly you rate the Argentina players, can you honestly say that they have been a better team than Germany this tournament? Because you'll find very few football fans agree with you if you do.
2014-07-13 17:16:00

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Germany is a classic case of the sum being better than the individual pieces. No out and out world beaters (except for Neuer perhaps), but a side with great players that performs as a team. If their best player has an off day, they can still go on to win the match.

Neymar IS overrated and he DOES carry the Brazil team. I mean, look at the rest of the Brazil squad - Fred is hopeless, Hulk is hopeless, Oscar is good, Luiz is hopeless in defence (he should play in midfield not at the back), likewise with Marcelo. For a so called "top" team to have so many hopeless players is unbelievable. Look at the Brazil teams of the past, with the likes of Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Cafu.... I could go on. Now compare that with the side of today! They lucked it to the semi final, due to some dodgy refs.
With regards to Di Maria, all I said was that he was injured. He hasn't been fantastic in all the games, you seem to be forgetting that match where he gave away the ball 50 odd times. That's poor. Top players shouldn't be doing that.

OK, regardless of however highly you rate the Argentina players, can you honestly say that they have been a better team than Germany this tournament? Because you'll find very few football fans agree with you if you do.

So, Germanys 7-1 win was easy and any team could do it if they are so hopeless without Neymar and Silva? And Di Maria losing the ball 50 times? Are we just going to ignore his amazing runs, beating so players, scoring a few too. I doubt you have even watched the World Cup based on how bias you are towards Germany, and are practically saying Argentina are bad and a one man team. And Neymar isn't overated, I don't see many German attackers better than him.
2014-07-13 17:46:00

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Again, you are focusing on the individual players, not the team. I'm not biased towards Germany, I'm just saying that they've been the best team. Most sane minded football fans would agree. And Argentina haven't been that amazing. Most sane minded football fans would also agree.2014-07-13 18:08:00

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I'm sorry, but I really do have to say that anyone who thinks Neymar is overrated as a player clearly has no clue what they are talking about. While I don't know nor do I care about his "passion" or personal life, I can safely say that as a player, he carries the entire team. He may not kick the ball as hard as Ronaldo or he might not be as quick at feet as Messi, but when I think of the best of players in this World Cup, I'm thinking Neymar over either of those-- well, Messi excluded, but I'm thinking Neymar over Ronaldo any day.

Reason is, that while Neymar is a great player in his own right, he is also a spectacular team player. Brazilian team without him is like Justice League without Superman. Whether you like the person or not, I can not see how anyone can deny that. Especially after this was proved. Say what you will about the team as a whole, if a single player can lift a team from being mediocre into being genuinely good, then the player we have is amazing.

Of course, I don't know how much people praise him where you're coming from. If he is treated as the next individual from God (upwards), then he is clearly overrated, but as a player, when compared to anyone else, it's clearly a matter of how one sees the players in question. But to me, who has actively followed the World Cup and the European Cup since the 2000's, English Cup since I can't remember when as well as having actively worked as a coach for a junior football team for a couple of years, I can say with 100% confidence that saying Neymar is the third best player in this World Cup (unless someone surprises us today) is not overrating him as a player.

That's what I think, anyway.

Also, as for the finale... I'm actually expecting the Doctor Who trailer more than the actual game, but I am saying that while Germany has had a better track record in this World Cup so far, it'd come as no surprise for me if Argentina surprised half of everyone and won gold. They already have a clear player of focus in their team, who is also arguably the greatest soccer player since Diego Maradona, so all they have to do as a team is not to disappoint and they put up quite a fight.

Either that, or someone tactically pulls the Karate Kid-trick on Messi. ?

My money's on Germany, but still... I'm calling for an even match.
2014-07-13 19:26:00

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Ok, well maybe I was a bit harsh on Neymar. I do think he's a tad overrated, but that's because he is Brazil's best (only) hope. He's still way off being as good as Ronaldo/Rivaldo et al, IMO.2014-07-13 20:05:00

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You want overrated though? You want to know who really is overrated? The single most overrated soccer player in the known universe? Simple...

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David Beckham.
2014-07-13 21:03:00

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FreeAim
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Argentina's been playing better than expected.

I wouldn't be surprised if this match also ended with a penalty shoot-out.
2014-07-13 21:57:00

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Just happy we won2014-07-13 22:37:00

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Congrats to Germany. They deserved it.2014-07-13 22:40:00

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SnipySev
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Good goal certainly one fitting for the own that would win a World Cup. Germany have been a good team this year and deserve their win. Argentina can also be praised for their effort in the final.2014-07-13 22:42:00

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Man, those german players have incredibly hot girlfriends.2014-07-13 22:53:00

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Hahaha, oh yes, they have! 2014-07-13 22:55:00

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GG WP report Zuniga plz2014-07-14 00:21:00

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Don't think Messi deserves player of the tournament despite being brilliant, he just wasn't Messi enough of the time, if you catch my drift.

Also don't think Messi deserves the criticism he will undoubtedly get for Argentina going out. I think he played a good game. Ok, he missed a really good chance but I think he mad up for it with the chances he created, it's just a shame his team-mates couldn't follow them up.

Germany did deserve the win though, so major congrats!!

Also a huge congrats to me for predicting it at the start of the tournament
2014-07-14 02:15:00

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Well, the best team in the tournament won. It was a close battle on the night, but it could have all been so much better for Argentina if world class player Higuain didn't fluff a simple 1-on-1.


You want overrated though? You want to know who really is overrated? The single most overrated soccer player in the known universe? Simple...
David Beckham.

Can't argue with that.


Man, those german players have incredibly hot girlfriends.

Good god yes. Draxler's certainly caught my eye!


Don't think Messi deserves player of the tournament despite being brilliant, he just wasn't Messi enough of the time, if you catch my drift.


Was Messi brilliant though? Sure he had moments of brilliance, but there were plenty better players in the tournament. He really didn't deserve that award (and just before dyna gets his/her knickers in a twist, that seems to be the general opinion, not just mine).
2014-07-14 09:19:00

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Well second place still wins some money so not all bad news.

Congrats Germany!
2014-07-14 09:48:00

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I thought Messi's award was a representation of his free kick soaring over the goal.

http://i.imgur.com/5AZ4Gsv.jpg
2014-07-14 10:58:00

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Messi's last kick is not a good presentation of what kind of player Messi is, because he really had no chance. No player alive could have ever scored from that situation. The kick had to be made from too far, so even if the kick was towards the goal, the chances of it actually bypassing the goalkeeper were close to non-existent. Let's just say that Messi deserved to price he got.

But so did Germany. They were in control most of the match, even though it was surprisingly even. Their strategy was solid, but it kind of seemed like neither party was going to take chances at any point of the game. Sure, it could've ended faster is even one team did, but the game we got was the game we got and it was not bad. It was a tense, entertaining game for the most part.
2014-07-14 13:01:00

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Messi's last kick is not a good presentation of what kind of player Messi is

I think the whole WC isn't a good representation of his true ability. Just like in the final, he had his moments, but he looked subdued a lot of the time. It's a shame really, because he's had, what, 3 world cups now (albeit he was really young in the first), and hasn't been able to perform to the best of his ability in any of them.
2014-07-14 13:33:00

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I think the whole WC isn't a good representation of his true ability. Just like in the final, he had his moments, but he looked subdued a lot of the time. It's a shame really, because he's had, what, 3 world cups now (albeit he was really young in the first), and hasn't been able to perform to the best of his ability in any of them.
Doesn't perform to best of his ability, still gets Player of the Tournament.
2014-07-14 18:00:00

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Doesn't perform to best of his ability, still gets Player of the Tournament.

Yes, so? If you look elsewhere on the interwebs, the majority of football fans would agree that he didn't deserve it. In fact, I'm sure even Messi would admit that he wasn't the best in the tournament (Maradona also disagreed with the award http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28294339 ). He wasn't even the best Argentina player for crying out loud, Mascherano was. Messi got the award on name only. And the fact that Adidas were the sponsor surely played some part.
2014-07-14 18:37:00

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Yes, so? If you look elsewhere on the interwebs, the majority of football fans would agree that he didn't deserve it. In fact, I'm sure even Messi would admit that he wasn't the best in the tournament (Maradona also disagreed with the award http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28294339 ). He wasn't even the best Argentina player for crying out loud, Mascherano was. Messi got the award on name only. And the fact that Adidas were the sponsor surely played some part.
I think he meant it more in the "he wasn't even at his best, but he still won" kind of way, rather than the "you're wrong" kind of way.
2014-07-14 19:13:00

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FreeAim
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Yes, so? If you look elsewhere on the interwebs, the majority of football fans would agree that he didn't deserve it. In fact, I'm sure even Messi would admit that he wasn't the best in the tournament (Maradona also disagreed with the award http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28294339 ). He wasn't even the best Argentina player for crying out loud, Mascherano was. Messi got the award on name only. And the fact that Adidas were the sponsor surely played some part.

So the world cup was rigged by Adidas to make Messi win PotT just to increase their sales and promote them? Ah, no.
And @FreeAim, yes, that is what I was getting at.
2014-07-14 19:32:00

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I don't think he was the best in the tournament, but I would have his back saying that he was brilliant. Yes, we didn't see it so often but when we did it made a difference. Messi has been dragging the team through the tournament. Their defence is brilliant but strong defending alone doesn't win a World Cup, and it's so often felt like Messi was the only real danger up front and the only one really making things happen when they did.

That's not saying that the likes of Higuain or Di Maria aren't good players, they definitely are. But Higuain should have scored WAY more for the ability he has and the position he plays in and Di Maria should have created more chances. There are two goals between them and one assist. That says a lot about how good Messi still had to be, who got four goals and an assist.
2014-07-14 19:38:00

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So the world cup was rigged by Adidas to make Messi win PotT just to increase their sales and promote them? Ah, no.
And @FreeAim, yes, that is what I was getting at.

Ok then, answer me this question - do you think Messi was the best player of the tournament and deserving of the award?

EDIT: I should also just add this - never underestimate the power that sponsorship/marketing has in football. This is a sport where a player can get fined more for revealing an "unsolicited" sponsor on the top of his underpants, than a team whose fans have been hurling racial abuse at players.
It's not a big conspiracy that Messi won the PotT, but lets just say that having his name on the honours list is more beneficial to having (for example) a player who has admitted to cheating (Robben), or someone who is a relative unknown (James Rodriguez).
2014-07-15 09:06:00

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Ok then, answer me this question - do you think Messi was the best player of the tournament and deserving of the award?

EDIT: I should also just add this - never underestimate the power that sponsorship/marketing has in football. This is a sport where a player can get fined more for revealing an "unsolicited" sponsor on the top of his underpants, than a team whose fans have been hurling racial abuse at players.
It's not a big conspiracy that Messi won the PotT, but lets just say that having his name on the honours list is more beneficial to having (for example) a player who has admitted to cheating (Robben), or someone who is a relative unknown (James Rodriguez).

So you believe the World Cup is rigged by Adidas then? I no longer take a thing you say serious. You think everyone is Argentina except Messi is bad, you think the World cup is rigged, and you think Neymar is overrated.

No, but thanks for playing.
2014-07-15 15:38:00

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dyna
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So you believe the World Cup is rigged by Adidas then?

Did I say that? No. Stop putting words in my mouth. Even Maradona (ie the Argentina legend, one of the greatest players to ever live, heard of him?) admitted the decision to give Messi the award may have been influenced by marketing. Another Argentine legend, Mario Kempes has also stated that he thinks the award went to the wrong person.

You still haven't answered my question. Do you think Messi deserved the award or not?
2014-07-15 16:07:00

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Ali_Star
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So you believe the World Cup is rigged by Adidas then? I no longer take a thing you say serious. You think everyone is Argentina except Messi is bad, you think the World cup is rigged, and you think Neymar is overrated.

No, but thanks for playing.

Cmon man, he didn't say that at all. What he's saying is that the big companies can influence decisions made, not the outcome of the whole world cup.

For example if you have a pool of players, one of which is a Nike sponsor and the other Puma, and they are to be chosen from for player of the tournament, it could be argued in favour to handing it to either. In this situation the big Sponsors want their star man to win the trophy, so they want to try and influence the decision so their man wins and promotes the image of the company. The Nike would seem like the more attractive option as they are the biggest sponsor and so FIFA would reap the benefits of swaying more to their side.

And with the sorry state of FIFA at the moment with the corruption and such coming out, I wouldn't be surprised if this was happening even to a larger extent than described.
2014-07-15 19:50:00

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Did I say that? No. Stop putting words in my mouth. Even Maradona (ie the Argentina legend, one of the greatest players to ever live, heard of him?) admitted the decision to give Messi the award may have been influenced by marketing. Another Argentine legend, Mario Kempes has also stated that he thinks the award went to the wrong person.

You still haven't answered my question. Do you think Messi deserved the award or not?

What are you chatting? You said that Adidas surely played a part? Are you having a giggle mate? FIFA choose the player themselves, whether they play for Adidas or not is irrelevant. And just because Maradona said something, doesn't change anything? What if Pele said Messi deserved it, what would you do then?
I believe Messi got his award for his outstanding performances in the groups where he really shone through. If you still going to run the "I hate Argentina" train, be my guest. I'mstill questioning how you think Klose is better than the Argentina attack just because he scored the most goals in the World Cup :///
2014-07-15 22:13:00

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dyna
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What are you chatting? You said that Adidas surely played a part? Are you having a giggle mate? FIFA choose the player themselves, whether they play for Adidas or not is irrelevant. And just because Maradona said something, doesn't change anything? What if Pele said Messi deserved it, what would you do then?


Look, you seem to be of the impression that I'm on this big anti-Messi/anti-Argentina/anti-dyna tirade. I'm not. From what I've seen, and from who I've spoken to, a lot of fans think Argentina stuttered to the finale, never quite reaching their potential given the quality of players that they have. Same with Messi. Just look at all the articles from various pundits etc. Most of them share the same thought. I'm not saying they're ?$%&, just that they weren't as good as they could have been.

Back to the Golden Ball award, this is decided by a Fifa "technical study group", whatever the hell that means. I read an article that mentions that they're thinking of changing the voting procedure after the controversy - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10966719/World-Cup-2014-Sepp-Blatter-questions-Lionel-Messis-Golden-Ball-and-distances-himself-from-vote.html#disqus_thread

So, look. You seemed to have jumped on my initial comment of Messi not deserving to win the award. You have the evidence all over the internet - IT'S NOT JUST ME WHO THINKS THAT. Stop jumping on every one of my comments that you disagree with just because you have a beef with me.



I believe Messi got his award for his outstanding performances in the groups where he really shone through. If you still going to run the "I hate Argentina" train, be my guest.

The award is for player of the tournament, not player of the group stage.


I'mstill questioning how you think Klose is better than the Argentina attack just because he scored the most goals in the World Cup :///

He's better than Higuain that's for sure. Klose would've burried that 1st half chance.

And on that note, I won't be replying to any more of your comments.
2014-07-16 09:33:00

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I think I almost cried reading that. You just failed to see what I was trying to say in every sentence...And Klose better than Higuian? 48471 Thats all 16 of his World Cup goals. You simply don't have a clue about football, and just chat utter rubbish about Argentina, before praising Germany like they're your religion. And I have beef with you? I'm pretty sure all of Argentina and any other nation you've chatted your rubbish to has beef with you.2014-07-16 15:36:00

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I think I almost cried reading that. You just failed to see what I was trying to say in every sentence...And Klose better than Higuian? 48471 Thats all 16 of his World Cup goals. You simply don't have a clue about football, and just chat utter rubbish about Argentina, before praising Germany like they're your religion. And I have beef with you? I'm pretty sure all of Argentina and any other nation you've chatted your rubbish to has beef with you.

Wow, talk about hypocrisy here, did you actually read anything Ali just said? If you can quote just when Ali put Germany up on a religious pedestal, that would be grand because I certainly can't see it. Secondly, I'm fairly sure it was made clear that Ali has no problem with Argentina, in fact, to quote:


Look, you seem to be of the impression that I'm on this big anti-Messi/anti-Argentina/anti-dyna tirade. I'm not.

What he is doing is criticizing a team that should have played better than they did, and I have to agree with him. They struggled into the final, every game that they won from the last 16 until the final was by either 1 goal or penalties:

Last 16:
Argentina 1 (In extra time)
Switzerland 0

Quarter Finals:
Argentina 1
Belgium 0

Semi Final:
Argentina 0
Holland 0
(4:2 on penalties)

Compare that with Germany's games:

Last 16:
Germany 2
Algeria 1

Quarter Final:
Germany 1
France 0

Semi Final:
Germany 7
Brazil 1

Which team looked more comfortable to you? Was it the team that got a collective 10 goals in knock-out stages, or the team that only got 2? I think it's fairly obvious. What Ali has done is picked on a team for their flaws and even backed up his argument to show that he isn't bias one way or another, showing that it is a mutual feeling. So if the "all of Argentina" has beef with Ali, then "all of Argentina" has beef with a lot of the people.

While I don't agree that Klose is a better player, I just think Higuain didn't display his best ability this world cup, I do think that he would have finished the early chance Higuain had in the final, even your goal map agrees to that. So if we're going on terms of world cup performance, I'm sorry, Germany out-performed the Argentinian attack by a mile, whether or not they are better individually or not. Besides, since when does a striker need to 40 yards out for every goal they score to be considered good? I don't care if a striker only scores goals inside the box, he's still scoring goals. And to be fair, the game the Germans play is very much 'inside the box', you don't see that many being fired in from far out, that's just not how they play.
2014-07-16 17:07:00

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craigmond
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Last 16:
Argentina 1 (In extra time)
Switzerland 0

Quarter Finals:
Argentina 1
Belgium 0

Semi Final:
Argentina 0
Holland 0
(4:2 on penalties)

Compare that with Germany's games:

Last 16:
Germany 2
Algeria 1

Quarter Final:
Germany 1
France 0

Semi Final:
Germany 7
Brazil 1


Germany beat Algeria by one goal (in extra time), and beat France by one goal? And you criticize Argentina for beat Holland on penalties? Holland had played brilliantly that game and even better throughout the tournament, and the only reason Germany won so badly was because Brazil had no attack without Neymar, and no defense without Thiago Silva, the best CB in the world... Germany beat Algeria by one goal in extra time like Argentina and Switzerland, and Germany beat France by one goal, like Argentina Belgium. And you say I'm the hypocritical one!
2014-07-16 17:46:00

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dyna
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Germany beat Algeria by one goal (in extra time), and beat France by one goal? And you criticize Argentina for beat Holland on penalties? Holland had played brilliantly that game and even better throughout the tournament, and the only reason Germany won so badly was because Brazil had no attack without Neymar, and no defense without Thiago Silva, the best CB in the world... Germany beat Algeria by one goal in extra time like Argentina and Switzerland, and Germany beat France by one goal, like Argentina Belgium. And you say I'm the hypocritical one!

Fair point, but don't forget that France also played a brilliant game against Germany. Holland, however, I don't think you can call 'brilliant' for the simple fact that their win against Spain wasn't too special with Spains following results, they struggled against Australia and they only went through against Mexico because of a dive, which Robben admitted to doing. The only thing that kept Argentina in the tournament was their defence, because apart from Messi the attack was so so poor. And let's not forget that the Algerian goal came in the dying minutes of the game when Germany were already 2 goals up. Germany were still the stronger side.
2014-07-16 17:56:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Robben admitted to the FIRST dive, where there was no penalty, the last one he said he never dived. And never said Holland were brilliant from a win against Spain?2014-07-16 19:12:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Robben admitted to the FIRST dive, where there was no penalty, the last one he said he never dived. And never said Holland were brilliant from a win against Spain?

No but you did say they played a brilliant tournament, I'm disputing that. They weren't all that brilliant. But I have to disagree with you, the penalty Robben won was definitely a dive, well, In my opinion anyway. Admittedly, however, the header Hummels scored against France (I think) was from a free kick won from a dive.
2014-07-16 19:35:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


But I have to disagree with you, the penalty Robben won was definitely a dive, well, In my opinion anyway.

What dyna is saying (I'm actually agreeing with him for once!) is that Robben claimed that he didn't dive for the penalty that was given. That is correct, he did say that. Of course, it's utter nonsense... he did dive! He was touched, and he threw himself to the ground.
I have this ongoing argument with someone on another forum. He says that if a player receives contact, he has the "right" to throw himself to the ground. I think this is utter crap... it's blatant cheating! Then he goes on like the players are diving to avoid injury... again it's utter crap. I'd expect no less from a Chelsea fan though.
2014-07-17 10:28:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


What dyna is saying (I'm actually agreeing with him for once!) is that Robben claimed that he didn't dive for the penalty that was given. That is correct, he did say that. Of course, it's utter nonsense... he did dive! He was touched, and he threw himself to the ground.
I have this ongoing argument with someone on another forum. He says that if a player receives contact, he has the "right" to throw himself to the ground. I think this is utter crap... it's blatant cheating! Then he goes on like the players are diving to avoid injury... again it's utter crap. I'd expect no less from a Chelsea fan though.

Yes, sorry. I was referring to what he posted on Twitter after the game.
2014-07-17 17:55:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


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