LittleBigPlanet General #2
LBP3 officially announced for both ps4 and ps3!
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| If you go to the E3 app on PS4, you can find more about LBP3. One screenshot shows a different skin for the OddSock! | 2014-06-10 20:03:00 Author: ShamgarBlade  Posts: 1010 |
| If you go to the E3 app on PS4, you can find more about LBP3. One screenshot shows a different skin for the OddSock! Is the E3 app only available in US? I'm in Canada and I can't seem to find it anywhere  | 2014-06-10 20:32:00 Author: KAPBAM  Posts: 1348 |
| LBP3 will be presented in his livestream in 5min: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/samsung-stage-1-2014/ | 2014-06-10 20:35:00 Author: Shadowriver  Posts: 3991 |
| Is the E3 app only available in US? I'm in Canada and I can't seem to find it anywhere I think it is US only. (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/06/e3-2014-app-live-on-ps4-download-now/) Sorry. :/ After looking at it more there really isnt too much there. Although I did get to try out PSNow beta (would be good if Comcast didn't limit my data usage). | 2014-06-10 20:38:00 Author: ShamgarBlade Posts: 1010 |
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/littlebigplanet-3/cid=UP9000-CUSA00473_00-LBP3GAME00000001?smcid=ps:show-now:visit-playstation-store s-playstation-store LBP3 is up for Pre-Order, It costs $59.99 | 2014-06-10 20:38:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo  Posts: 524 |
i gonan sart now: LBP3 here in 5 min: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/samsung-stage-1-2014/  | 2014-06-10 20:45:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Yay, Now i don't have buy a PS4. Still i'm getting it till the Price Drops to... $200 Yeah, PS4's are pretty expensive. It's best to get LBP3 for PS3. When it comes out, I'll get it for PS3 too. | 2014-06-10 20:46:00 Author: Apple2012  Posts: 1408 |
| looked like there was a no water swimming material via gamespot stream! Balloons! | 2014-06-10 20:49:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma  Posts: 1414 |
| also notice "R3 to cut" :> also there portals that let you move between layers | 2014-06-10 20:52:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| looked like there was a no water swimming material via gamespot stream! Balloons! Oh dear It would be better if we can do that rather than have water flood the whole level. | 2014-06-10 20:53:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Wow so you can switch between any two of the characters just like Toggle switched between his two forms on the fly! Cool! (Rules might apply, level to level.) Also little Toggle can run on water | 2014-06-10 20:54:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| Oh dear It would be better if we can do that rather than have water flood the whole level. I mean... it looked like there was a material that made you swim without water... that or the water is super clear Steven Fry confirmed! | 2014-06-10 20:55:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| Stephen Fry confirmed to be returning! | 2014-06-10 20:56:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| I mean... it looked like there was a material that made you swim without water... that or the water is super clear That could be it. Still disappointing. | 2014-06-10 20:56:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Yay Fry! | 2014-06-10 20:57:00 Author: samalot  Posts: 591 |
| Steven Fry confirmed | 2014-06-10 20:58:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Stephen Fry confirmed to be returning! That is good news. I like him more than the narrator of the Move Pack. | 2014-06-10 20:58:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Wow so you can switch between any two of the characters just like Toggle switched between his two forms on the fly! Cool! (Rules might apply, level to level.) Are you sure about that? I thought they said the complete opposite in that stream. | 2014-06-10 21:00:00 Author: FlyingIrishMan  Posts: 64 |
| I was literally just watching Gamespot's Day 1 Stage Show and they had on 2 members of SCEE talking about LBP3 and they confirmed on stage that Stephen Fry would be returning. Eff Yes.<3 | 2014-06-10 21:01:00 Author: DarkSeraphim666  Posts: 96 |
| I know. Isn't that great. However, I think this would be merged with another thread. I'm not sure if it would, but he's already mentioned on the other thread. | 2014-06-10 21:03:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Surprised to here there's a PS3 version too. I'd be even more surprised if levels created on PS4 will be playable on PS3. | 2014-06-10 21:03:00 Author: Nuclearfish  Posts: 927 |
| Are you sure about that? I thought they said the complete opposite in that stream. Yes, you apparently can switch between any type of character. They said they limited Toggle to be that way during the story levels, but a creator can have the ability to do switching between any character. For example Sackboy to Oddsock. I wonder if you can switch between multiple characters Trine-style... | 2014-06-10 21:03:00 Author: ShamgarBlade Posts: 1010 |
| Seems like the level creator is able to choose which character you play as, and whether or not you can switch between them on the fly. | 2014-06-10 21:04:00 Author: Doopz  Posts: 5592 |
| To rewatch go here http://www.gamespot.com/e3/samsung-stage-1-2014/ and turn to 58:50 | 2014-06-10 21:05:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| I get the feeling that this was originally intended to only be a PS3 game but with the holiday line-up on PS4 being a bit empty especially after the order got pushed back it got a quick port to fill out the PS4 holiday releases. | 2014-06-10 21:05:00 Author: Rabid-Coot  Posts: 6728 |
| Yes, you apparently can switch between any type of character. They said they limited Toggle to be that way during the story levels, but a creator can have the ability to do switching between any character. For example Sackboy to Oddsock. I wonder if you can switch between multiple characters Trine-style... Okay yeah, I thought you meant the player had the ability to choose when to change and what to change to whenever they liked. Limiting it to having the creator choose is fine though. | 2014-06-10 21:06:00 Author: FlyingIrishMan Posts: 64 |
| I was literally just watching Gamespot's Day 1 Stage Show and they had on 2 members of SCEE talking about LBP3 and they confirmed on stage that Stephen Fry would be returning. Eff Yes.<3 Merged with existing thread. | 2014-06-10 21:07:00 Author: Lady_Luck__777  Posts: 3458 |
| I wonder if there's going to be achievements in this game too. | 2014-06-10 21:09:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| I think it is US only. (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/06/e3-2014-app-live-on-ps4-download-now/) Sorry. :/ After looking at it more there really isnt too much there. Although I did get to try out PSNow beta (would be good if Comcast didn't limit my data usage). Yup, I followed the link to the store, saw the app, logged in and then ended up on an error page. Def not available in Canada Thanks for sharing though! Looking forward to trying out PS Now, glad they confirmed it to be coming to Canada in the conference! | 2014-06-10 21:11:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| Did i miss the stream? | 2014-06-10 21:11:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| Yeah, but Shadow posted the link above and instructions for watching and I'll add the video to the op when it hits youtube | 2014-06-10 21:13:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| Stephen Fry confirmed to be returning! http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo195/liampatrickberry/stephenfrybumwiggle_zpsd3248a58.gif (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/liampatrickberry/media/stephenfrybumwiggle_zpsd3248a58.gif.html) | 2014-06-10 21:16:00 Author: EnochRoot  Posts: 533 |
| Yes, you apparently can switch between any type of character. They said they limited Toggle to be that way during the story levels, but a creator can have the ability to do switching between any character. For example Sackboy to Oddsock. I wonder if you can switch between multiple characters Trine-style... Okay yeah, I thought you meant the player had the ability to choose when to change and what to change to whenever they liked. Limiting it to having the creator choose is fine though. Yup that's all correct. So for example all existing LBP 1 & 2 levels won't suddenly allow you to choose to play as other characters. I do wonder how the switching will work... I'd have to assume it will be linked to a button, maybe trackpad? Although a shoulder or face button would seem more convenient. I'm looking forward to finding out if it's a two character limit, or a Trine style swap between as many as you want, like you say Shamgar... | 2014-06-10 21:19:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| OKAY THAT'S lT I'M GONNA GET A PS3 NO MATTER WHAT | 2014-06-10 21:20:00 Author: Woutery  Posts: 793 |
| So next will be IGN stream at IGN at 3:20 PST which is 11:20pm GMT and 0: 30 CET | 2014-06-10 21:27:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| So next will be IGN stream at IGN at 3:20 PST which is 11:20pm GMT and 0: 30 CET Which is also 5:20 P.M. in Central Time (US). I should probably see it. | 2014-06-10 21:30:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| So next will be IGN stream at IGN at 3:20 PST which is 11:20pm GMT and 0: 30 CET So 6:20pm Eastern... And here I thought I was going to leave my home today All good though, this is exciting stuff | 2014-06-10 21:32:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| Video of LittleBigPlanet Gamespot LiveStream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ts3oC1c9cQ | 2014-06-10 21:34:00 Author: Hanfi1311  Posts: 776 |
| Video of LittleBigPlanet Gamespot LiveStream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nxAybP6mWc If you find a better quality, post it and I will delete this post, thanks... Thanks man! | 2014-06-10 21:34:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| I will be excited to join yet another LBP beta when the time comes. This time on the PS4! Time to break out the ps3 and back up my profiles and ace those last DC levels... | 2014-06-10 21:36:00 Author: ICBklyn  Posts: 36 |
| When the beta testing comes out, I would like someone to PM me to let me know that the beta testing is open. I would like to join the beta this time. | 2014-06-10 21:36:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Traditional water IS an option. They showed a clip where little-Toggle was walking on water but then sank and began to swim as big-T. 2:22 and 4:22 (Little/Big-T) of the video- The water fall also triggers the "splash" animation. *Another visible power-up, in addition to the torch and blow-drier/air gun thing, is a paint brush. | 2014-06-10 21:38:00 Author: catsand  Posts: 201 |
| I'm disappointed the developers ignored the 'floaty controls' question. The floaty controls are what's holding most PlayStation gamers back from enjoying LBP (a lot have complained before). All of this could've been resolved if it didn't have to be backwards compatible with the 8 million levels. Really though, do any of you care about playing PS3's levels? I don't. I'd rather have a new game engine that truly pushes gameplay forward instead of clinging to past releases. What is special about playing levels from 2011 when you can play optimized modern levels that will surely be pumped out through LBP3's lifetime? I just don't get it. I am a little excited about it coming to PS3. I'm happy because it means I won't have to save for a PS4, but it's strange on Sony's part because LBP3 WAS going to be a system seller for me. | 2014-06-10 21:53:00 Author: The5rozos  Posts: 952 |
| They didn't ignore the question, they mention in the gamestop interview that they have tightened the jump controls up to a point where it is not alien for those who enjoy traditional lbp physics and more suitable for those who want greater precision. We have a hybrid jump now which will hopefully please all. A better answer than at the lbp2 reveal when they said the global gravity tweaker would solve the issue. Obviously we'll have to wait and see if it actually works out. It might be tied to the new characters. | 2014-06-10 21:54:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| When the beta testing comes out, I would like someone to PM me to let me know that the beta testing is open. I would like to join the beta this time. All the other ones I was in were via sign up on Sony's site. I'm sure you'll hear about it soon enough. They usually announced when the sign ups would begin so everyone knew. | 2014-06-10 22:03:00 Author: ICBklyn Posts: 36 |
| Really though, do any of you care about playing PS3's levels? I don't. I'd rather have a new game engine that truly pushes gameplay forward instead of clinging to past releases. What is special about playing levels from 2011 when you can play optimized modern levels that will surely be pumped out through LBP3's lifetime? I just don't get it. I kind of agree. I don't think I've ever played an LBP1 level in LBP2 (apart from my own to see how badly the lighting was broken, at which point I quickly made them LBP1 only). As soon as we get our hands on new features and tools, the old levels become almost irrelvant, only living on in memory. Although I can see why they've done it. Shipping a game that already includes 8.5 million levels is quite a big selling point, certainly more so than "slightly tweaked physics" or whatever. In fact I expect the devs at Sumo probably wanted to move past the restrictions of having to make everything work with the old levels, but the request for backwards compatibility was probably a big thing Sony pushed for. | 2014-06-10 22:03:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927 |
| They didn't ignore the question, they mention in the gamestop interview that they have tightened the jump controls up to a point where it is not alien for those who enjoy traditional lbp physics and more suitable for those who want greater precision. We have a hybrid jump now which will hopefully please all. A better answer than at the lbp2 reveal when they said the global gravity tweaker would solve the issue. Obviously we'll have to wait and see if it actually works out. It might be tied to the new characters. My bad, I didn't literally mean ignore. But they weren't very optimistic sounding about changing the controls much... Judging from the trailers it's about as tight as LBP Vita. Oddsock's fast pace though is a welcome change. I've often wished Sackboy can actually run while playing LBP these past 5 years. Looks like that's finally coming true (although in a different physical form) | 2014-06-10 22:06:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| All the other ones I was in were via sign up on Sony's site. I'm sure you'll hear about it soon enough. They usually announced when the sign ups would begin so everyone knew. When they have it available, somebody has to send me a PM in case I forget. | 2014-06-10 22:08:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Hype gifs! Get your hype gifs here! https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/75/1385753810661.gif http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/590/5903146/2501888-3351201123-lJHcJ.gif http://x2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/I+love+policemen+with+a+bit+of+humor+_a3bda9bba512 088f3f74fcb5c85514dd.gif | 2014-06-10 22:19:00 Author: chick8ed  Posts: 19 |
| Active users in forum: Media Molecule Employees: Gentleman Tom, slippi must be fun to follow this thread for them...  Btw, we need "Sumo Digital Emloyee" | 2014-06-10 22:19:00 Author: Hanfi1311 Posts: 776 |
| Active users in forum: Media Molecule Employees: Gentleman Tom, slippi must be fun to follow this thread for them... And our famous level creators are back. | 2014-06-10 22:21:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Active users in forum: Media Molecule Employees: Gentleman Tom, slippi must be fun to follow this thread for them... Yup, bet they are laughing at our speculation =p Would be nice if they cleared up some of the multiplat concerns going around though but I'd imagine they are under a NDA or something. Also, HD gamespot interview in the op | 2014-06-10 22:21:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| I was currently crying when this waqs announced! It just came out of nowhere. For those not in the know, The Fry man will be back in this installment! | 2014-06-10 22:26:00 Author: acdramon  Posts: 332 |
| SteveBigGuns (aka father of Toggle) watching too | 2014-06-10 22:27:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
I think they'll begin the Public Beta in summer and mostly they'll send out invitations to the LittleBigPlanet 3 beta to users who’ve been really active in LittleBigPlanet 1 & LittleBigPlanet 2. I hope because i been known for being really busy in LBP1 & 2!  Like in the LBP1 & LBP2 Days! <3 | 2014-06-10 22:29:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| SOMEONE PLEASE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT LBP3 FOR PS3 NOW Just getting my question out here. | 2014-06-10 22:30:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793 |
| I'm looking around on Steven's twitter and haven't seen anything about LBP3 coming to PS3. Did he delete that post? | 2014-06-10 22:30:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| Those in pink names are not MM employees. They are pending email confirmation from signing up. -hyper | 2014-06-10 22:30:00 Author: hyperdude95  Posts: 1793 |
| 48232 | 2014-06-10 22:30:00 Author: Reef1978  Posts: 527 |
| SteveBigGuns (aka father of Toggle) watching too And what about PPP_Killer? He's another famous one (made 3-d racing levels). | 2014-06-10 22:31:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| I'm looking around on Steven's twitter and haven't seen anything about LBP3 coming to PS3. Did he delete that post? Click "Tweets and replies"  Also, if there's gonna be a beta test, i'm definitely willing to get a PS3 just for it. | 2014-06-10 22:33:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793 |
| Those in pink names are not MM employees. They are pending email confirmation from signing up. -hyper If they aren't Mm employees then how are they in pink? | 2014-06-10 22:33:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| If they aren't Mm employees then how are they in pink? hyperdude95 answered that question. | 2014-06-10 22:35:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Jww can explain that, he was the one who told me. Also there will be a beta, as steven said. Stay tuned for more info! -hyper | 2014-06-10 22:35:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| I'm really intrigued of how will LBP3 interact between the PS3 and its PS4 version! Man can't wait to hear what is going on! :O | 2014-06-10 22:35:00 Author: yugnar  Posts: 1478 |
| I'm really intrigued of how will LBP4 interact between the PS3 and its PS4 version! Man can't wait to hear what is going on! :O You mean LBP3? | 2014-06-10 22:37:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Better quality of the stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ts3oC1c9cQ | 2014-06-10 22:38:00 Author: Hanfi1311 Posts: 776 |
| Ok that GS recording good find | 2014-06-10 22:39:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Screenshots! http://www.gameinformer.com/games/littlebigplanet_3/b/playstation4/archive/2014/06/10/fresh-batch-of-littlebigplanet-3-screenshots.aspx?utm_content=bufferf6bf8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer -hyper | 2014-06-10 22:40:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| Also there will be a beta, as steven said. Stay tuned for more info! -hyper Yeah i know... I'm just wondering, Oh and yes i'm going after this. http://archive.lolrus.mediamolecule.com/2014/uploads/beta_bugblaster_thumb.jpeg | 2014-06-10 22:40:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| Yeah i know... I'm just wondering, Oh and yes i'm going after this. http://archive.lolrus.mediamolecule.com/2014/uploads/beta_bugblaster_thumb.jpeg And so am I. | 2014-06-10 22:42:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| If they aren't Mm employees then how are they in pink? The colour pink actually existed before Media Molecule, so all pink things are not necessarily Mm employees. The opposite is true however; all Mm employees are definitely 100% pink. | 2014-06-10 22:42:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927 |
| Yeah i know... I'm just wondering, Oh and yes i'm going after this. http://archive.lolrus.mediamolecule.com/2014/uploads/beta_bugblaster_thumb.jpeg I'm still waiting for the replacement code for the dud bug blaster I got from the lbp2 beta =p Don't worry about the rewards though cause the biggest reward is knowing that every bug you squash is making the game better for others. | 2014-06-10 22:43:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| I'm still waiting for the replacement code for the dud bug blaster I got from the lbp2 beta =p Don't worry about the rewards though cause the biggest reward is knowing that every bug you squash is making the game better for others. Or how about a bug spray that patches all the glitches. They haven't been invented yet, but there will be. | 2014-06-10 22:45:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| Some costumes: http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/LittleBigPlanet3/LBP3-E3screen018_1402372552.jpg | 2014-06-10 22:49:00 Author: Jedi_1993  Posts: 1518 |
| Omg that Toggle costume This is going to be great... http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/LittleBigPlanet3/LBP3-E3screen010_1402372543.jpg | 2014-06-10 22:54:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| Those costumes are simply the most adorable thing I've ever seen. | 2014-06-10 22:59:00 Author: Shooter0898  Posts: 996 |
| What does this new popit icon mean? http://i.imgur.com/SfsVDvX.png -hyper | 2014-06-10 22:59:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| Here's GameSpot's interview with Pete Smith and Tom O'Connor about LBP3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzzx6leB3U&feature=youtu.be | 2014-06-10 23:00:00 Author: Jauw  Posts: 484 |
| http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/LittleBigPlanet3/LBP3-E3screen009_1402372542.jpg Confirmed! | 2014-06-10 23:02:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| LBP3 is up next!!! http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/06/10/playstation-e3-2014-media-briefing-news-announcements/ -hyper | 2014-06-10 23:04:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| I think they'll begin the Public Beta in summer and mostly they'll send out invitations to the LittleBigPlanet 3 beta to users who?ve been really active in LittleBigPlanet 1 & LittleBigPlanet 2. I hope because i been known for being really busy in LBP1 & 2! Like in the LBP1 & LBP2 Days! <3 Thought it was people who participated in previous betas got in as well. hopefully! | 2014-06-10 23:05:00 Author: ICBklyn Posts: 36 |
| We can create our own powerups!!! Touchpad and Share features will heavily be used! -hyper | 2014-06-10 23:11:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| A PS3 version, really? There goes the power advantage of PS4. I stopped making LBP2 levels because the thermometer was evil and strangled my creativity. If we dont get AT LEAST 5x the thermometer on PS4 Im passing this up. | 2014-06-10 23:15:00 Author: bluearth Posts: 100 |
| We can create our own powerups!!! Touchpad and Share features will heavily be used! -hyper No way, how so? Like more customizable than the creatinator? I just barely tuned in to hear we can make our on decorations... Sweet! | 2014-06-10 23:16:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| We can create our own powerups!!! Touchpad and Share features will heavily be used! -hyper When I said that I've phased out of LBP, I'm now phasing in. I'm so ready for LBP3. | 2014-06-10 23:17:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| LBP3 in IGN in 3 mins http://uk.ign.com/events/e3 | 2014-06-10 23:17:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| O'conner said it was a new tool to make new powerups with. -hyper | 2014-06-10 23:17:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| No way, how so? Like more customizable than the creatinator? I just barely tuned in to hear we can make our on decorations... Sweet! Probably similar to that of Karting. | 2014-06-10 23:18:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996 |
| There goes the main selling point of DLC that includes new power-ups | 2014-06-10 23:19:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| Probably similar to that of Karting. Oh... That wouldn't be any different than the creatinator power-up though, right? | 2014-06-10 23:20:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| IT begins: http://uk.ign.com/events/e3 | 2014-06-10 23:21:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Toggle walk in botom of water when he is big | 2014-06-10 23:23:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Amazing Level! | 2014-06-10 23:24:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| I can't find Steven's tweet about LBP 3 being for the PS3 too. Hopefully he got bad information or misspoke, and deleted the tweet after. Having LBP 3 for the PS3 is a very bad move in my opinion, in many aspects. The developers will have to sacrifice quality and features to make sure that the versions are compatible with each other (LBP 3 on the PS3 able to play LBP on the PS4 levels), and Sony will definitely sell less PS4's because of this. Hopefully the tweet was fake or a mistake - this blog post doesn't mention the PS3 at all: http://littlebigplanet.playstation.com/news/announcing-littlebigplanet-3-for-ps4 | 2014-06-10 23:24:00 Author: Kalawishis  Posts: 928 |
| Community spent 30,000,000 hours in create mode! -hyper | 2014-06-10 23:25:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| Community spent 30,000,000 hours in create mode! -hyper cumulatively or each lol | 2014-06-10 23:28:00 Author: flamingemu  Posts: 1872 |
| There gona be inventory :o sackboy can cary more powerups in same time | 2014-06-10 23:28:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Anyone else think there may be a surprise gamejam that happened and we're going to hear about it soon? | 2014-06-10 23:30:00 Author: warlord_evil  Posts: 4193 |
| @shadow, Its called the SackPocket! EDIT: 1080P!!!! -hyper | 2014-06-10 23:30:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| The inventory thing is called SackPocket | 2014-06-10 23:30:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Looking at the E3 video. It looks like you can create a bunch of 3 layer sections and navigate between them. Either by connecting it with a 3D layer to switch between them or using bounce pads. | 2014-06-10 23:31:00 Author: Rpg Maker  Posts: 877 |
| Hmmm, by the way they are talking in the IGN interview it sounds like the extra layers are a ps4 thing as they listed it under what the ps4 allowed them to do (along with touchpad etc)... might just have been an unfortunate phrase though. | 2014-06-10 23:32:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| Community spent 30,000,000 hours in create mode! -hyper That's not all... Over 9,158,028 levels were publish through out all the LBP Games! | 2014-06-10 23:32:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| @shadow, Its called the SackPocket! EDIT: 1080P!!!! -hyper Just imagine an Eye Candy competition on this beauty *drools* | 2014-06-10 23:35:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| I can't find Steven's tweet about LBP 3 being for the PS3 too. Hopefully he got bad information or misspoke, and deleted the tweet after. Having LBP 3 for the PS3 is a very bad move in my opinion, in many aspects. The developers will have to sacrifice quality and features to make sure that the versions are compatible with each other (LBP 3 on the PS3 able to play LBP on the PS4 levels), and Sony will definitely sell less PS4's because of this. Hopefully the tweet was fake or a mistake - this blog post doesn't mention the PS3 at all: http://littlebigplanet.playstation.com/news/announcing-littlebigplanet-3-for-ps4 Sorry for the upsetting news... But LBP3 for PS3 is listed on Amazon. And Steven typically knows all of the insider news. It'd be a pretty large mishap if none of what said is true. | 2014-06-10 23:37:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| Hmmm, by the way they are talking in the IGN interview it sounds like the extra layers are a ps4 thing as they listed it under what the ps4 allowed them to do (along with touchpad etc)... might just have been an unfortunate phrase though. I must have missed it. I am curious how much access the PS3 players would have to the PS4 created levels if this were true. I kinda feared this a little earlier, in that the PS3 would have an inferior version. Of course it isnt confirmed, but the extra layers seem like a huge part of this release and looks fantastic! | 2014-06-10 23:39:00 Author: Rpg Maker Posts: 877 |
| Perhaps the 2 releases will be what LBP1 on PS3 and PSP were to each other? Same basic premise, but different level designs/restrictions in order to fit with the hardware. | 2014-06-10 23:41:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| cumulatively or each lol Did LBP2 have playtime somewhere? I am really curious how many hours of life I spent on this game. | 2014-06-10 23:41:00 Author: Rpg Maker Posts: 877 |
| @RPG Well Mm always said they limited it to three layers for a reason. If you remember the original demo for lbp had about 6 or 7 but it was scaled back. Maybe they will pull a Titanfall and get another developer to do the last gen version hence why the info for that comes later? | 2014-06-10 23:41:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| Amazon has been wrong before...It's just odd that they haven't announced that it's also coming to the PS3- if it really is. Then there's also the controller specific features... | 2014-06-10 23:48:00 Author: catsand Posts: 201 |
| What does this new popit icon mean? http://i.imgur.com/SfsVDvX.png -hyper I am 99% sure that is the sack pocket! | 2014-06-10 23:49:00 Author: acdramon Posts: 332 |
| For anyone out of the know (like me, who just Googled it), the "Sackpocket" is a thing that can hold powerups. | 2014-06-10 23:51:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
| @RPG Well Mm always said they limited it to three layers for a reason. If you remember the original demo for lbp had about 6 or 7 but it was scaled back. Maybe they will pull a Titanfall and get another developer to do the last gen version hence why the info for that comes later? That does make sense. I was wondering the entire time how the ps3 could handle all the layers, especially with LBP2 being great, but having its share of bugs as it is. | 2014-06-10 23:51:00 Author: Rpg Maker Posts: 877 |
| As you probably know you can make your own PowerUps within LittleBigPlanet 3. This will definitely expand the possibilities when making new levels, so everyone is not making a platformer with the Pumpinator... -- Jauw | 2014-06-10 23:59:00 Author: Jauw Posts: 484 |
| Amazon has been wrong before...It's just odd that they haven't announced that it's also coming to the PS3- if it really is. Then there's also the controller specific features... It is odd, but at the same time isn't. At least from Sony's business prospective. Remember Microsoft's promotion for Titanfall for Xbox One? They hardly acknowledged the 360 version since they wanted all focus and attention to be on their new console. They didn't want gamers to feel satisfied with their last-gen system. Well I'm sure Sony did the same thing, and asked the developers not to mention a PS3 version unless questioned about it. Plus I guarantee there wouldn't be as many positive reactions from the unveiling, since most people would assume they're getting yet another PS3 port. That's just my little theory | 2014-06-11 00:01:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| As you probably know you can make your own PowerUps within LittleBigPlanet 3. This will definitely expand the possibilities when making new levels, so everyone is not making a platformer with the Pumpinator... -- Jauw I wonder if the player light like in my glow world and glow world 2 levels is a power-up you can create in LBP3. | 2014-06-11 00:02:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| its coming to the ps3... http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1510/15104833/2376052-1282217024-Get_h.gif | 2014-06-11 00:07:00 Author: RONNYNS Posts: 34 |
| This is the best news I've hears in a long time! The big question for me is whether the PS3 version is different from the PS4 version. I'll get the 4 eventually, but this is the deciding factor for me. | 2014-06-11 00:09:00 Author: one-mad-bunny  Posts: 334 |
| Same, the price to a minimum range of $200 i'll be set and i'll be ready for the LBP3 Fun! | 2014-06-11 00:11:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| So what do we call these new weirdos? They're like different species of sack. Sackoids? I guess the dog and bird sackoids are sackimals and the big guy is... a sacka$$? Sackshifter? | 2014-06-11 00:12:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527 |
| Cropped http://i.imgur.com/yizpxRc.gif Original http://i.imgur.com/tuZR9BW.gif | 2014-06-11 00:13:00 Author: lve_msg  Posts: 408 |
| http://i.imgur.com/tuZR9BW.gif He looks like in pain | 2014-06-11 00:20:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| It must be twice the work designing outfits for Toggle, considering each accessary needs to fit both sizes of him. | 2014-06-11 00:22:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| http://i.imgur.com/tuZR9BW.gif Big, Small, Big, Small, Big, Small... | 2014-06-11 00:23:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| It must be twice the work designing outfits for Toggle, considering each accessary needs to fit both sizes of him. It might be deformabale | 2014-06-11 00:33:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Cropped http://i.imgur.com/yizpxRc.gif Original http://i.imgur.com/tuZR9BW.gif It must be twice the work designing outfits for Toggle, considering each accessary needs to fit both sizes of him. That gif is awesome It seems to me that the costumes will be wearable by all characters. The devs speak of Big Toggle and Little Toggle as separate characters, which is my first hint. Seems to make sense to me too that they wouldn't want to make different outfits for every character. I would assume they just adapt each outfit for each character. (All speculation mind you) | 2014-06-11 00:33:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| It must be twice the work designing outfits for Toggle, considering each accessary needs to fit both sizes of him. It might be deformabale | 2014-06-11 00:34:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Cropped http://i.imgur.com/yizpxRc.gif Original http://i.imgur.com/tuZR9BW.gif It must be twice the work designing outfits for Toggle, considering each accessary needs to fit both sizes of him. That gif is awesome It seems to me that the costumes will be wearable by all characters. The devs speak of Big Toggle and Little Toggle as separate characters, which is my first hint. Seems to make sense to me too that they wouldn't want to make different outfits for every character. I would assume they just adapt each outfit for each character. (All speculation mind you) | 2014-06-11 00:34:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| That gif is awesome It seems to me that the costumes will be wearable by all characters. The devs speak of Big Toggle and Little Toggle as separate characters, which is my first hint. Seems to make sense to me too that they wouldn't want to make different outfits for every character. I would assume they just adapt each outfit for each character. (All speculation mind you) I think they also mentioned that in creation, you can select what to toggle between. i.e Sackboy and the bird. ..which I think would be cool as heck. | 2014-06-11 00:37:00 Author: jwwphotos  Posts: 11383 |
| That gif is awesome It seems to me that the costumes will be wearable by all characters. The devs speak of Big Toggle and Little Toggle as separate characters, which is my first hint. Seems to make sense to me too that they wouldn't want to make different outfits for every character. I would assume they just adapt each outfit for each character. (All speculation mind you) Does that mean I can stick a Batman outfit on the big guy? lol | 2014-06-11 00:38:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527 |
| Does that mean I can stick a Batman outfit on the big guy? lol I was thinking more like Shrek, but I don't see why not. lol | 2014-06-11 00:39:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| lol I just figured out what he reminds me of. http://textbookstop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/grimace_mcdonalds_high_resolution.jpg | 2014-06-11 00:46:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527 |
| I'm so excited, but I do have to say, I will be bummed if its released on PS3. This is the next generation of consoles, I don't feel like they should be accommodating the previous one at the expense of the quality of the game. Don't get me wrong, I know some people don't have stacks of cash to spend on new consoles, I don't myself. But when I finally buy the PS4, I would hope that these games are as best as they can be with the new hardware and features, rather than having to sacrifice to integrate the previous console. Otherwise, why am I buying a PS4? Eh, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe PS3 integration won't be at the expense of the game itself, but honestly I don't see how that's possible. | 2014-06-11 00:55:00 Author: slippi  Posts: 34 |
| lol I just figured out what he reminds me of. http://textbookstop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/grimace_mcdonalds_high_resolution.jpg Oh god... xD | 2014-06-11 00:57:00 Author: Tikaki-MooMoo Posts: 524 |
| Does that mean I can stick a Batman outfit on the big guy? lol That WOULD be awesome I am indeed wondering if they will adapt the entire back catalog of costumes for the new characters (or maybe more realistically MOST of it). That would make it insanely fun to make all sorts of outfits for the new guys! Speaking of Batman, I'd love to see Oddsock as Batdog xD EDIT: Actually the more I think of it, this has to be how it works... Since you can toggle between character (say Sackboy and Oddsock) would they not have to be able to wear the same outfits? Maybe not, but it would make sense huh? | 2014-06-11 00:58:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| lol I just figured out what he reminds me of. http://textbookstop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/grimace_mcdonalds_high_resolution.jpg Old 70's to 90's McDonald's. I wish they can come back. | 2014-06-11 01:09:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408 |
| I don't think this one has been shared yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCiHUgyyOJ8 The dev talks about how the touchpad is used in create mode to make it more accessible to create for players. So confirmed to be used in create mode. Dev says it can be used in create to navigate, drag objects around, draw geometry. Which should make things a lot faster. Also says that PS4 allowed for 1080p, so if it's true that it is coming to PS3 as well, expect lesser graphics by comparisson. There are T-shirts available at E3... I want one | 2014-06-11 01:12:00 Author: KAPBAM Posts: 1348 |
| From a 4-year old thread from 2010-2011 about LBP3. Some suggestions and guesses were pretty accurate: Based on the progression from LBP to LBP2 I think its safe to assume that LBP is a franchise Sony will want to keep going and we will see a LBP3 somewhere down the line in the future. What do you think it should be like? A similar progression from LBP2... More tools, enhancements, logic etc wrapped up in a nice bundle with another 50 levels. Or maybe you think it should do something more drastic? Full 3D, More layers, change the way things work competly? I'd like: - Supported 3D, decorative layers - An option for a 4th playable layer - Extra level slots. Something like $1.00 for 2 slots DLC. I wouldn't be bothered by that. - Tweak in the engine allowing you to make objects smaller without loss of detail, if possible. - Power-ups like a flashlight... or something... - Customizable color correction - Pressure switch. One that measures the amount of force exerted on it. More weight = More output signal - Dynamic materials: Quicksand, etc. - Auto-save feature when creating levels - Better Text Search? That's all I have... There should be more gameplay possibilities, not necessarily a full free-roaming world that sets apart from 2.5D gameplay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D), but rather a merge of the two, here's my idea - imagine Sackboy/girl roaming through the 2.5D world, perhaps a remake of The Gardens theme, just to give a picture. -He/she loftily falls down a curvy craft-world hill and manage to reach a stop near the edge of a cliff. Instead of the player having to find a way to navigate over the obstacle set before them, they push into the back layer, where then the whole camera pans to the right, turning into the background, like a camera focused on a square building, turn a 90 degree corner, where as they would still be facing the building. So the camera just shows a new view, and Sackboy/girl begins to move along a new path. If the camera had not changed, it would look like Sackboy/girl would be traveling into the level background. To exemplify this idea, this is a similar version of traveling into the background, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2BCL8yscvs&feature=player_embedded) not of what was just mentioned, but rather by the character simply appearing in the background. In a form, this may simply be a "layer glitch" put into easy creating use. [...] -Connector appearances, this is a simple tool, it may even be patched in LBP2! But connectors, like strings, pistons, bolts, sprung bolts, etc. Could have different appearances, strings could be changed to yarn, vine, wires...bolts could be nails, rusted bolts, a rivet, etc... You would be able to make your own powerups, using some kind of custom powerup tool, you create the powerup object, ( it has to be grabbable ) make it so that it can do what it is supposed to when r1 is pressed, the object would be held by sackboy like the paintinator via a handle that must be included in the object, and then aimable, and when you press r1 it does whatever. Im hoping it will be full 3d. It needs to be something huge to keep the creators/ players interested. The 2.5d could easily be enhanced by allowing full control over all the axis of movement and rotation and shaping objects on all axis too. Theres so many ideas that the community will come up with, I think mm wont have a hard time progressing the game asmuch as lbp2 has from lbp1 or even further. I don't want it to change, I like my old LBP copy the way it is, but if a third game were to be released one day, then a couple improvements would be most welcome! I'm not asking for full 3D, it would make it completely different and might ruin LBP, but I'd like a few details to be improved, like the possibility to build things on several axis.I would make slopes (http://www.leboutte.be/images/catalogue/toiture/panneau-tuile.jpg) in each and every level of mine if I could, but I can't. Shadowriver's idea is excellent too. Making our objects by making them rotate so that they could be used in top-down levels and still look good. Next step I would see is a creature maker so we have bots that aren't sackboy shaped. You could create a Sack animal with 4 legs, a Sackfish, etc. It would also be interesting to really expand on the different level styles the community defined. Per example, there would be REAL top view levels (could be an option you chose when you initially create your level. You'd chose if want a side scroller or a top scroller). The game would also need "from back to front" scrolling. Could also be a level type anyways. Doing REAL afterburner and outrun games. I would pay a high price for this all. What would I want in LBP3?! Well thats a fantastic question! Might take some thought... 1. The level "ribbon" that Alex Evans mentioned in some video. Basically, you could make it look like your level was not flat all the way across, but rotated as it around a giant cylinder. Cool idea that would add a lot of visual charm. 2. More layers, and the ability to hide layers during PLAY MODE. You could build much more expansive levels if you had, oh say, 15 playable layers, and had the ability to move back in them quickly and hide the ones in front if you so wanted. 3. Customizable characters. Similar to what RangerZero said, but I want a dynamic character creator so I can play as just about anything. 4. I've suggested it before, but a Magic Hilt power up. Basically, the part that sackboy holds is always the same, but you can edit the end of it to make anything you want, i.e. flashlights, swords, wand, shovels etc etc. 5. Even if you don't allow sackboy to play in he z-plane, at least allow us to edit and create in it! Give us the ability to rotate the camera 90 degrees in create mode and build there just as we would normally, and allow jagged shapes that bend in just the z-plane. Well, thats about it. What people should also keep in mind is the fact that we are most likely to see LBP3 on a next gen system, so the possibilities may be much more profound than we currently expect. | 2014-06-11 01:20:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
| No way, how so? Like more customizable than the creatinator? I just barely tuned in to hear we can make our on decorations... Sweet! He also mentions being able customise sackboy to use those user created powerups. He says the community will be happy. I'm guessing sword swings and knocking an arrow/bow pull and stuff like that. | 2014-06-11 01:24:00 Author: GribbleGrunger  Posts: 3910 |
| I'm so excited, but I do have to say, I will be bummed if its released on PS3. This is the next generation of consoles, I don't feel like they should be accommodating the previous one at the expense of the quality of the game. I don't even own a PS4, but I feel the same way. When people started saying it is also coming to the PS3 my excitement dropped. | 2014-06-11 01:38:00 Author: catsand Posts: 201 |
| I don't even own a PS4, but I feel the same way. When people started saying it is also coming to the PS3 my excitement dropped. I guess I don't get that. Isn't the PS4 just a better MB, CPU, with a better GFX card? ..and maybe some extra goodies in the OS? Is there something uber magical about the PS4? I know the controllers have the touch feature like the Vita, but I just thought the PS4 as a nice upgrade, not a total redesign of their system. | 2014-06-11 01:46:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| Also, people need to keep in mind that some of the most fascinating and impressive work done in LBP2 was the result of an exploit. Not hoping for a buggy game, just reminding people that maybe we will discover things in LBP3 that the developers haven't even discovered themselves! EDIT: I guess I don't get that. Isn't the PS4, just a better MB, CPU, with a better GFX card? ..and maybe some extra goodies in the OS? Is there something uber magical about the PS4? I know the controllers have the touch feature like the Vita, but I just thought the PS4 as a nice upgrade, not a total redesign of their system. I think a big part of my opinion is the result of the thermometer in LBP2. I'm assuming thermometer was put in place to keep people from adding too much to the level for the console to handle, and with a faster, more advanced console, I'm hoping that means a larger thermometer, one that doesn't have to keep in mind the restrictions of a PS3. Also, I'm excited to experiment with the PS4 exclusive features such as the touchpad and the sensor, I don't want to see a large population of players not get the full experience of my level, because they are on a console that does not have these features. | 2014-06-11 01:47:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| I guess I don't get that. Isn't the PS4 just a better MB, CPU, with a better GFX card? ..and maybe some extra goodies in the OS? Is there something uber magical about the PS4? I know the controllers have the touch feature like the Vita, but I just thought the PS4 as a nice upgrade, not a total redesign of their system. Well, I can share his feelings. Basically the excitment dropped cause we're were hoping this next version had so much packed into it the PS3 couldn't possibly handle its power. Like making LBP2 work with the PS2. LBP psp would be the PS3 version compared to the PS4. That's what I was hoping for, but it seems like they just made LBP3 with better graphics for PS4. Makes me feel like the PS3 version is holding LBP's potential back. | 2014-06-11 01:59:00 Author: Vex_Doppel  Posts: 108 |
| I still don't see why they wouldn't just have 2 sets of levels, the ones only ps4 can access with more thermo and then everything else. It's not like it hasn't been done before with peripherals like the move or vita kits or the lbp1 levels in lbp2 but not the other way round. If the ps3 version simply didn't display the ones it could not run there would be no issues but any ps4 levels that were created but were not resource intensive could still be seen. As noted already, ps3 most likely won't be able to do any of the levels that use the touchpad or other ps4 features anyway. I mean, other games have exclusive next gen features such as battlefield which only has 64 player matches on next-gen and pc or watchdogs which is missing two game modes on last gen consoles. Lbp could be no different. Sumo, Tarsier and Mm have forged their teams from lbp players... and those players will do anything to make their favourite series shine. | 2014-06-11 02:02:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| I still don't see why they wouldn't just have 2 sets of levels, the ones only ps4 can access with more thermo and then everything else. It's not like it hasn't been done before with peripherals like the move or vita kits or the lbp1 levels in lbp2 but not the other way round. If the ps3 version simply didn't display the ones it could not run there would be no issues but any ps4 levels that were created but were not resource intensive could still be seen. As noted already, ps3 won't be able to do any of the levels that use the touchpad or other ps4 features anyway. That causes a huge issue though. To limit what is supposed to be the same game for one of the consoles to that degree is wrong. Its supposed to be the same game, and the same experience. If I bought what was supposed to be LBP3 for my PS3 only to find out it was only MOST of LB3, and the rest of it was PS4 exclusive, I'd be pretty mad. Basically, if they are offering the EXACT same game on two separate consoles, one of which is a generation and several years ahead of the other, then thats an issue, because they clearly aren't using the newer one to its full potential. Alternatively, if its not the same game, then they should just not bother. | 2014-06-11 02:06:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| Its supposed to be the same game, and the same experience. Have they officially said this? Moreover ps4 games often cost more... so more game? | 2014-06-11 02:09:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| Have they officially said this? Moreover ps4 games often cost more... so more game? I don't know, I feel like two discs that both say LBP3 should both contain the same thing, just my opinion though. And do they? I don't think so. A new title will pretty much cost the same across the board. It costs, for me, about $59.99 for a new PS3 title, and LBP3 for PS4 has been stated to be the same. Honestly, if PS3 players are willing to sacrifice content, I'm fine with that, but if I shell out the cash to buy a PS4 and LBP3, I really don't want to have features limited. | 2014-06-11 02:13:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| I don't know, I feel like two discs that both say LBP3 should both contain the same thing, just my opinion though. And do they? I don't think so. A new title will pretty much cost the same across the board. It costs, for me, about $59.99 for a new PS3 title, and LBP3 for PS4 has been stated to be the same. Honestly, if PS3 players are willing to sacrifice content, I'm fine with that, but if I shell out the cash to buy a PS4 and LBP3, I really don't want to have features limited. PS4 defintly gonna have higher quality assets it also gonna have whole LBP1 and LBP2 content | 2014-06-11 02:25:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| PS4 should and will pack a bigger punch, just the way it is and should be. I want a ps4 version that simply over powers the PS3 version due to shear brute force of awesomesauce. I hope the PS3 version is considerably watered down version of the PS4 version while slightly being greater then LBP2. I want LBP3 PS4 to be far above the greatness of LBP2. it took 27 pages for me to finally add my input | 2014-06-11 02:26:00 Author: L-I-M-I  Posts: 611 |
| PS4 defintly gonna have higher quality assets it also gonna have whole LBP1 and LBP2 content I expect that the PS4 graphics will be a bit better (and I would hope that PS3 players get access to LBP1 and 2 content  , so I'm worried of what you're implying there)What it all boils down to is that I don't want the PS3 and the PS4 compatibility to be compared to how LBP1 and 2 backwards comparability worked. I can already hear the community cracking down the middle. I'm not saying that it will sever the playerbase entirely, but if it will impose restrictions, like, at all, then its just not something I think should have been done. Regardless, I'm pretty sure its happening whether I like it or not. I won't lose sleep over it because what I've heard and seen so far is very promising. PS4 should and will pack a bigger punch, just the way it is and should be. I want a ps4 version that simply over powers the PS3 version due to shear brute force of awesomesauce. I hope the PS3 version is considerably watered down version of the PS4 version while slightly being greater then LBP2. I want LBP3 PS4 to be far above the greatness of LBP2. it took 27 pages for me to finally add my input And I want all LBP3 players to have the best experience possible. Apparently we stand at opposite ends of the topic. | 2014-06-11 02:27:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| For those who lost StevenI's tweet saying that LBP3 will be coming for PS3, here it is: https://twitter.com/StevenIsbell/status/476405948609998848 | 2014-06-11 02:33:00 Author: cakito123  Posts: 353 |
| Does that mean I can stick a Batman outfit on the big guy? lol You should stick a Bane outfit on the big guy | 2014-06-11 02:36:00 Author: Chdonga  Posts: 388 |
| It's coming to playstation 3???!?! I love you sony. I love you. | 2014-06-11 02:44:00 Author: Sackativitron  Posts: 61 |
| Anyone heard anything about the past costumes on the PS4? I haven't tried to put any ps3 data on my ps4 yet so I dunno. Would I be able to move my profiles onto the ps4 to not lose my collected stuff, and use costumes from old game? I don't want to lose my rare Slurpee T-shirt.... | 2014-06-11 02:51:00 Author: ICBklyn Posts: 36 |
| I suspect you would just re-download your DLC from the store. ..there may be other options. Too soon to know. | 2014-06-11 02:54:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| Anyone heard anything about the past costumes on the PS4? I haven't tried to put any ps3 data on my ps4 yet so I dunno. Would I be able to move my profiles onto the ps4 to not lose my collected stuff, and use costumes from old game? I don't want to lose my rare Slurpee T-shirt.... hre no info on ps3->ps4 but you defintly should able to do that in ps3 version .... speak f which i just have his thouth abou HUB.... i think they delay it to add LBP3 in to it... i mean how you gonna impor profile to HUB and then to LBP3 and then to HUB | 2014-06-11 03:02:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| I guess I don't get that. Isn't the PS4 just a better MB, CPU, with a better GFX card? ..and maybe some extra goodies in the OS? Is there something uber magical about the PS4? I know the controllers have the touch feature like the Vita, but I just thought the PS4 as a nice upgrade, not a total redesign of their system. 8 GB of unified RAM vs. 256 MB system and 256 MB video is a pretty magical difference. Even the Vita has more memory than the PS3. | 2014-06-11 03:07:00 Author: fullofwin  Posts: 1214 |
| hre no info on ps3->ps4 but you defintly should able to do that in ps3 version hopefully steven can shed some light... | 2014-06-11 03:11:00 Author: ICBklyn Posts: 36 |
| 8 GB of unified RAM vs. 256 MB system and 256 MB video is a pretty magical difference. Even the Vita has more memory than the PS3. I didn't know the difference. Being a pc gamer, I am not usually one to look at the innards of consoles and be impressed, but I agree that is quite a bit of difference. I am still happy to see a new version coming. I may even get a PS4 to play it on. | 2014-06-11 03:13:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| LittleBigPlanet 3 has just been announced by Media Molecule?who previously said they wouldn?t be at E3. http://www.onlysp.com/littlebigplanet-3-announced/ Actually, Mm isn't the dev for LBP3. Sumo Digital is, however, I see it in good hands. | 2014-06-11 03:29:00 Author: chronos453  Posts: 175 |
| Well if Crytek ported Crysis 3 to PS3 (and PC users need SM5.0 GPU to play it to make things more funny ) and MGS5 actully comming to PS3, i guess everything is possible | 2014-06-11 03:30:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| That share button will come in handy! Got something you've created and someone wants it? Press Share and it's theirs. Share Factory and Youtube integration (coming later this year) will make creating tutorials easy too. It could revitalise the LBP community. | 2014-06-11 03:41:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| Did anyone notice (well of course you did) that new scoreboard? Not sure if this is how all levels end now, I guess (hope) not, but in the demo the level ended like in a Pod-alike capsule. Do you guys think it was just an in-level object or will levels end in a Pod-gate-y thingie? | 2014-06-11 03:43:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| Did anyone notice (well of course you did) that new scoreboard? Not sure if this is how all levels end now, I guess (hope) not, but in the demo the level ended like in a Pod-alike capsule. Do you guys think it was just an in-level object or will levels end in a Pod-gate-y thingie? Naaa, that was just how they decided to end the level. I think we can safely say that we'll now be able to end the level any way we want. I'm over my initial disappointment now and I'm looking forward to what it brings to the table. | 2014-06-11 03:45:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| Sure, LBP3 doesn't look like as big a jump in creative capability as when LBP2 came out, but I'm most excited over the fact that MM isn't actually making the game. It's not like they wouldn't do a brilliant job with it, but leaving the next logical step in the progression of the LBP franchise to Sumo Digital leaves them open to develop the sort of revolutionary game that LBP1 was without any sort of creative limitations. I think they made the smart choice here: if they assumed responsibility for creating LBP3, they'd be forced to make the difficult choice between making an LBP2.5 by staying exclusively in 2.5D, and jumping awkwardly to a three-dimensional LBP, which wouldn't really mesh as well with the existing community that's been built on 2D levels (I mean realistically, how many plays would old, 2D LBP levels get in a 3D LBP community?). Anyways, I think this is a win-win for Sony and MM. LBP3 might not fully live up to our lofty expectations, but it should reawaken Playstation's creative community and we'll all hopefully end up with two great games in the process as a result of letting MM unchain their creativity from their past accomplishments (these two games being, of course, LBP3 and whatever MM's semi-secret project turns into). | 2014-06-11 03:46:00 Author: spiffyspleen Posts: 23 |
| Naaa, that was just how they decided to end the level. I think we can safely say that we'll now be able to end the level any way we want. Heh that would actually be kinda nice. Like, making your own scoreboard sequence... like gathering highscore data somehow and not restricting us to use an specific object everytime. Lol I truly want to know more stuff about this game. And it's been 1 day from announcement. :arg: | 2014-06-11 03:47:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| Heh that would actually be kinda nice. Like, making your own scoreboard sequence... like gathering highscore data somehow and not restricting us to use an specific object everytime. Lol I truly want to know more stuff about this game. And it's been 1 day from announcement. :arg: Or even a fade to black or a shrinking circle that ends with Sackboy waving through the hole: "The ... the ... That's all folks." The devs said there was so much new content in this game that they'll be releasing more of over time. Now that we have more layers, let us tip that camera down to give us an isometric view ... Please! | 2014-06-11 03:52:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| Ive been wanting to get back into LBP for a while, but I was aware of how the community had dwindled. Im glad we all have something to bring us back together. Im curious if the music creation has evolved at all. Easily one of my favorite parts of LBP2, and it would be awesome if Sumo did something new with it. At least add time signatures other than 4/4 and 3/4. | 2014-06-11 03:52:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| That demo level looked like a intro level like in LBP2, sackboy hop in to pod and shoot to space and then you in your pod | 2014-06-11 03:53:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Ive been wanting to get back into LBP for a while, but I was aware of how the community had dwindled. Im glad we all have something to bring us back together. Im curious if the music creation has evolved at all. Easily one of my favorite parts of LBP2, and it would be awesome if Sumo did something new with it. At least add time signatures other than 4/4 and 3/4. Like Move DLC proofed, all music needs is new instruments, Non-Move sequencer music is no the same as Move sequencer music | 2014-06-11 03:56:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Like Move DLC proofed, all music needs is new instruments, Non-Move sequencer music is no the same as Move sequencer music Very true! The simple addition of the move instruments made making music so much better. | 2014-06-11 03:59:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| What ever did happen to LBP Hub that was supposed to come out by the end of last year? | 2014-06-11 04:00:00 Author: ConverseFox  Posts: 2333 |
| Like Move DLC proofed, all music needs is new instruments, Non-Move sequencer music is no the same as Move sequencer music No, it need more than just new instruments. It needs proper fades between notes and overlapping notes, proper distortion effects, The ability to mutate an instrument into another, the ability to mix instruments or create chords and apply it to ONE note, the ability to add points on the music that mute a line until it's activated by a tag. etc. edit: Or am I missing some MOVE DLC? | 2014-06-11 04:00:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| No, it need more than just new instruments. It needs proper fades between notes and overlapping notes, proper distortion effects, The ability to mutate an instrument into another, the ability to mix instruments or create chords and apply it to ONE note, etc. edit: Or am I missing some MOVE DLC? No, youre right too. Move only included an instrument pack, and they sounded fantastic,m and there were quite a lot of them, but the music system still needs an overhaul. Perhaps: -more effects -custom time signatures -the ability to change instrument automatically rather than have to replot every note on a different one -much larger music thermo -more production settings eg. equalizers, gradual pan, etc. | 2014-06-11 04:05:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| That makes me remember how disappointed I was to see Karting lacking a music sequencer. Neeeh but Sumo wouldn't do something as not including one of the most brilliant features of LBP into the third installment of the series. I wonder if there will be something for Vita as well. Dunno if the system could handle it but if it already handled LBP2; and if PS3 can handle LBP3 then Vita probably can as well. Hmm a friend just told me someone just confirmed water material. Has anyone else heard it as well? And if so, where?! | 2014-06-11 04:08:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| That makes me remember how disappointed I was to see Karting lacking a music sequencer. Neeeh but Sumo wouldn't do something as not including one of the most brilliant features of LBP into the third installment of the series. I wonder if there will be something for Vita as well. Dunno if the system could handle it but if it already handled LBP2; and if PS3 can handle LBP3 then Vita probably can as well. Hmm a friend just told me someone just confirmed water material. Has anyone else heard it as well? And if so, where?! I didn't see any water material, but there is definitely footage posted in this thread (I think) that shows sackboy swimming in mid air. It's probably something to do with more control over his animations (as was also mentioned) crossed between the power of Swoop (which can be applied to sackboy) I can't see why, taking all that into consideration, why there can't be a material that at least deforms sackboy as if he's immersed in water. Just one request: Give me a chip that lets be dephysicalise and rephysicalise any material I want. | 2014-06-11 04:22:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| I didn't see any water material, but there is definitely footage posted in this thread (I think) that shows sackboy swimming in mid air. It's probably something to do with more control over his animations (as was also mentioned) crossed between the power of Swoop (which can be applied to sackboy) I can't see why, taking all that into consideration, why there can't be a material that at least deforms sackboy as if he's immersed in water. Just one request: Give me a chip that lets be dephysicalise and rephysicalise any material I want. Oh yes that is quite important. Both the dephysicalise tool and the static/dynamic tools from Vita should DEFINITELY be on LBP3! | 2014-06-11 04:25:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| As far as logic updates are concerned I really hope this game runs faster than 30fps and I also hope that they have some form of analog -> digital conversion with zero latency, like they did with the vita version. That would be amazing. | 2014-06-11 04:28:00 Author: Seku  Posts: 65 |
| Oh yes that is quite important. Both the dephysicalise tool and the static/dynamic tools from Vita should DEFINITELY be on LBP3! The reason I wanted a chipped version was because I had a great idea of how to cut the thermo right down. All you would have to do is use a player tag to turn the dephysicaliser on or off. That would mean that hardly any of the environment would have physics until sackboy was close by. | 2014-06-11 04:29:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| Since this may be the replacement for LBP Hub, it may also be free to play? Or maybe we would know that by now. | 2014-06-11 04:30:00 Author: ThisDudeRufus Posts: 170 |
| Wow, I never played LBPV and didn't even know it brought new tools and tweaks to the table! | 2014-06-11 04:35:00 Author: slippi Posts: 34 |
| I came back to say im back and im excited. now to get back to Dark Matter lol. | 2014-06-11 04:40:00 Author: Seant1228  Posts: 348 |
| Since this may be the replacement for LBP Hub, it may also be free to play? Or maybe we would know that by now. That is good quastion | 2014-06-11 04:40:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Since this may be the replacement for LBP Hub, it may also be free to play? Or maybe we would know that by now. I wouldn't get your hopes up, Hub is still happening but they are focusing on this first and foremost. Thank god! | 2014-06-11 04:45:00 Author: acdramon Posts: 332 |
| More Feature Speculation This video was posted previously in the thread but I want to bring attention to some of the things shown in the video that people haven't seemed to notice or discuss www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ts3oC1c9cQ 1) At 2:48 we see Sackboy 'swimming' in mid air. I think this may be a water material that has been tweaked to be invisible or perhaps it is invisible by default. I think that this material can be made to any shape and has no physical collision with characters such that a character can 'enter' the material and upon doing so they behave as though they were in water. This theory complies with another clip at 3:50 where we see two characters swimming before exiting the water material from the side (previously impossible in LBP games) at separate times. Also at 9:44 it looks as though Small Toggle uses some invisible water material (in the narrow rectangular cut-out) to launch himself up, overcoming the obstacle at hand. This suggests that if this water material exists it can be placed on particular layers (unlike water previously behaved where it was across all layers) 2) At 2:53 we see some gameplay showcasing portals which carry the players momentum between linked portals 3) At 5:04 we see a yellow balloon object which can expand and contract. Perhaps we will see other objects, decorations or materials which can be deformed, expanded or compressed. 4) In the following video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6agYaqEusAE At 3:17 we see Small Toggle somehow ascending. The scene is decorated to suggest that there is a strong wind pushing him upward. I did speculate that there was invisible water which may be what is used in this clip (as we know Small Toggle float to the surface of water), however, all other clips of Small Toggle using water to catapult himself upward show him being accelerated very quickly and violently. Instead this clip shows him ascending very gently, because of this I believe this not water but instead some kind of wind material which can push characters and possibly even objects that enter it in a particular direction. It may also be tweakable such that the strength of the wind can be made smaller or larger. On a side note, I'd also like to point out that nobody has really mentioned the additional popit feature. There seem to be 2 new icons in the popit menu, one looks like a large 'U' which I assume is the powerup pocket thing, but the other looks like a very small 'T', it almost looks like a tiny trophy. Anybody have any ideas what it could be?? | 2014-06-11 05:04:00 Author: Seku Posts: 65 |
| I wouldn't get your hopes up, Hub is still happening but they are focusing on this first and foremost. Thank god! I am not even mad about Hub. I mean, when it was announced it was like: heh, nice. Maybe more people will come to LBP. But it didn't seem spectacular at all, nor was it a big difference from LBP2. All I wished for was LBP3. And here it is! 8) | 2014-06-11 05:09:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| I am not even mad about Hub. I mean, when it was announced it was like: heh, nice. Maybe more people will come to LBP. But it didn't seem spectacular at all, nor was it a big difference from LBP2. All I wished for was LBP3. And here it is! 8) The only part that excited me for hub was the possible idea that it might make LBP2 playable on PS4 (since at the time there was no word of LBP3). I was really hoping to be able to play on PS4 because it opens up the possibility of easy streaming and uploading content such as tutorials or community competitions like the people working on their contest creations or the big "create-a-thons" which I would love to watch on stream. | 2014-06-11 05:13:00 Author: Seku Posts: 65 |
| All this LBP 3 love caused me to start a new forum game here https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=89347-Lbp-3-will&p=1161455#post1161455 finish this sentence. LBP3 will....... | 2014-06-11 05:32:00 Author: L-I-M-I Posts: 611 |
| Sony Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCiHUgyyOJ8 More of the same...but it's in high resolution. | 2014-06-11 06:00:00 Author: catsand Posts: 201 |
I'm wondering what IGN will rate this game. They got great scores with Mm as the developer, then the scores were kinda dodgy with LBPV being universally acclaimed and LBPK being universally criticized and disliked.  | 2014-06-11 06:03:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952 |
| The thing I hate about reviews is that all of them find creating "too complicated". They have no idea what they are talking about! Sure, you can't go to the level editor and create a masterpiece in half an hour but they like to criticize the franchise with such an absurd point. | 2014-06-11 06:16:00 Author: yugnar Posts: 1478 |
| Did anyone else notice it has 'blueprints'? In this case it was a blueprint for a wheel but because the devs have said they're going to make it more accessible for people with less creative knowledge, I'd assume there are blueprints for many other things too. | 2014-06-11 06:29:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| Super excited for more LBP! I'm a little concerned about it being available for PS3 (https://twitter.com/StevenIsbell/status/476405948609998848) as well though... So, to speculate: If there will be a separate pool of LBP3 levels for PS3 and PS4, this seems like unnecessary fragmentation and counter to everything they're trying to do with making LBP3 backwards compatible. However, if the same levels will all be playable on PS3 and PS4, this is troubling because a) it will impose limits on the PS4 version that wouldn't otherwise be there, and b) as creators, are we going to have to get the PS3 version of the game as well to test our creations and make sure they look and run well? Personally, neither of these options seem ideal. I think I'd rather this was PS4 only. | 2014-06-11 06:31:00 Author: Dr C  Posts: 122 |
| Personally, neither of these options seem ideal. I think I'd rather this was PS4 only. It seems the PS4 graphics are taking a big hit as well. After seeing the demos for The Order 1886 and other games using new physically-based renderers, I was a little surprised to see that LBP3 looks exactly like LBP2, but I guess it makes sense now why the visuals haven't been upgraded. | 2014-06-11 07:03:00 Author: Chazprime  Posts: 587 |
| I think it's weird seeing people actually not want this to be cross gen, seeing as most of the people from the LBP community I know have yet to have a PS4. I wonder if Sumo are going to work harder to update the visuals and such now. That being said like numerous others, this being cross gen not only disappointing me, but makes me cautious of what was scaled back... | 2014-06-11 07:14:00 Author: acdramon Posts: 332 |
| As a game which is somewhat based around inclusivity and a big community, the devs making it cross gen doesn't surprise me. Although i am surprised Sony has allowed this... | 2014-06-11 08:07:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
| i don't know exactly what these new sack like characters are or exactly how they'll work. but i do like the idea of having new character shapes to work with. however i hope there will be more then the 3 or 4 they shown off so far... because a dog sack, a bird sack, a fat big sack and little fat sack is pretty random and limited choices and since it appears that their powers may just be something that you can preset to any 1 of them when creating a level i hope that means we will be getting a good handful more new sack like people... for example i make mostly female characters in my story driven levels i work on so a sack that has a body shape that supports a female looking body would help me personally a lot even if the sack design is very simple and to get the full effect i'd have to put on costume parts and deco, i just wanna to be able to make something like Eve from LBP2 as a example ya know? anyways just saying i hope there'll be more choices of new sack people then shown at the moment. *mew | 2014-06-11 08:24:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz  Posts: 4261 |
| I think people are definitely underestimating the differences that these new characters will make. Sure they may have been possible in LBP2 but those ideas took extremely long hours to create and the amount of logic used must have been staggering. These new characters open up so many new gameplay possibilities I've already started thinking about the ways they can be implemented and its making me burst with joy. Especially how now the layers are able to swap seamlessly (Or at least i think they do) so many new gameplay options have opened for both platformer creators and those that like to create different experiences.. I for one am so excited to get my hands on this seeing as i haven't played LBP2 since last summer and my ps3 is all but packed away!! | 2014-06-11 09:29:00 Author: Tawarf Posts: 457 |
| I'm wondering what IGN will rate this game. They got great scores with Mm as the developer, then the scores were kinda dodgy with LBPV being universally acclaimed and LBPK being universally criticized and disliked. They'll give it a 10/10 it's okay. | 2014-06-11 09:52:00 Author: Chdonga Posts: 388 |
| Here is some additional information about LittleBigPlanet 3 from official announce (http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/LittleBigPlanet/LittleBigPlanet-3-%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B5-%D0%BE%D0%B1-%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B5/m-p/21565929) on Russian playstation community forum: Names of new Power UPs: - Pumpinator - Blink Ball - Hook Hat (here is one more web source (http://omgdgt.com/?p=44842) where were announced all three power ups/weapons) Also here is additional pictures of new Sackboy friends: http://lbp-russia.ru/images/lbp3/characters/LBP3_Group_with_logo.jpg http://lbp-russia.ru/images/lbp3/characters/Toggle_E3.jpg http://lbp-russia.ru/images/lbp3/characters/Swoop_E3.jpg http://lbp-russia.ru/images/lbp3/characters/Oddsock_E3.jpg Also there is (http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8-%D0%B8-%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%B9/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7-%D0%A1%D1%8D%D0%BA%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%81%D1%8F-%D0%B8-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85-%D0%B4%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%BD%D0%B0-PlayStation/m-p/21565839) release date - November 4th | 2014-06-11 09:56:00 Author: Domik12  Posts: 838 |
| So that I don't have to trawl through 30 pages, do we know whether or not if movie cameras can now be player specific like game cameras? | 2014-06-11 09:56:00 Author: Ali_Star  Posts: 4085 |
| I must get more info on the PS3 version! Seriously, i may aswell be getting a PS3 just for this and i want to be sure that it's not just a misspelling or that they're going to retract it. | 2014-06-11 10:44:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793 |
| Anyone heard anything about pre-ordering on the EU ps store? Cause it is live on the US one. Maybe today when the store updates? | 2014-06-11 12:23:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414 |
| I'm pretty sure that there is full 3D, from the announcement trailer you can see 2 toggles running and crashing in the wall in a 3D environment around at 1:17 | 2014-06-11 12:46:00 Author: Nugahugachaka  Posts: 80 |
| you can see 2 toggles running and crashing in the wall in a 3D environment around at 1:17 Bad example. look at the background... It's a auto run level where the level it self is moving forward. The sack people just look like they are running since we obviously have better control over Sack animations in LBP3. *mew The game may still have full 3D... but we need more time to know for sure. | 2014-06-11 12:50:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| Bad example. look at the background... It's a auto run level where the level it self is moving forward. The sack people just look like they are running since we obviously have better control over Sack animations in LBP3. *mew The game may still have full 3D... but we need more time to know for sure. I doubt it's full 3D. It looks like they've found ways to smoothly transition characters between different "planes" of layers. Looks awesome, IMO. | 2014-06-11 13:13:00 Author: Chazprime Posts: 587 |
| I'm guessing we'll have some Crash Bandicoot style 3D. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK-h4M4Aetg | 2014-06-11 13:42:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527 |
| was interested by the anouncement of lbp3 for PS4 but the existance of a possible PS3 version has definitely given me pause. If there is a PS3 version, and if the PS3 version can play levels created on the PS4, then i'm not gonna touch this thing with a 10 foot pole....... Now, b4 people defend the Idea of these 2 versions being on par feature wise you really need to consider how the PS3 is currently holding LBP2 back. The thermometer is a estimated reflection of how much RAM the level needs to "occupy" in it's current state, not the size of the level on the HDD/servers. The fact that the lbp engine cannot predict what will happen next within any given level means that all assets(material textures, stickers, decorations, objects, collisions etc.) required within the level must be loaded into RAM when the level first loads. Now obviously we have found ways around this as it seems emitted objects are not loaded into ram until they are emitted into a level (complicated objects and/or new materials can cause issues when emitted because of this). however there is another side to this problem, the 256 MB main memory and 256 MB video memory available on PS3 is partly taken up by both the PS3 operating sytem, and the game engine- including the rendering pipe-line that creates what you see on screen at any given time. When your level is already using too much RAM AND the game is trying render a complex scene (along with calculating physics/logic etc) something has to give, that when you get all the annoying exclamation marks and the "This area of the level is too complex" warning appears. Now compare the PS3's available RAM to the 8GB's of unified RAM available on PS4, while again some of this RAM is used by the PS4 OS and some used for the game engine for improved rendering, physics etc- you can guarantee there would be way more RAM left on the PS4 version of LBP3 for larger are more complex levels than there is left on PS3. So IF the ps3 version can play all levels created on the PS4 version then there is no possible explaination other than the PS4 version is being severely held back to make it possible. I personally believe that if there is indeed a ps3 version coming that it will not be able to access levels created on ps4. | 2014-06-11 14:03:00 Author: evret  Posts: 612 |
| It looks like they've found ways to smoothly transition characters between different "planes" of layers. Looks awesome, IMO. Also, fun! Love watching the characters slide between layers! | 2014-06-11 14:07:00 Author: StevenI  Community Manager Posts: 420 |
| Also, fun! Love watching the characters slide between layers! Hey Steven, I understand you can't tell us everything yet, but can you please clear up this one thing while you're here? Can the PS3 version of LBP3 play levels created on the PS4 version of LBP3? | 2014-06-11 14:19:00 Author: evret Posts: 612 |
| Hey Steven, I understand you can't tell us everything yet, but can you please clear up this one thing while you're here? Can the PS3 version of LBP3 play levels created on the PS4 version of LBP3? If you play LittleBigPlanet 3 on the PS3, you will be able to play levels that are created on PlayStation 4. (And vice-versa, of course.) However the PS3 versions of the levels won't take advantage of the fact that LBP3 on PS4 can run at 1080P HD or have the increased texture resolutions that LittleBigPlanet 3 on PlayStation 4 will have. | 2014-06-11 14:29:00 Author: StevenI Community ManagerPosts: 420 |
| Is it even official that it will be coming out on PS3? On the LBP3 website it says something about ''LBP3 is perfect for showing what your PS4 can do'' and ''Dualshock 4 is good for LBP3'' and stuff like that. I hope it's not coming for PS3 because it will hold the game back alot. | 2014-06-11 14:30:00 Author: yoghurt2000  Posts: 74 |
| If you play LittleBigPlanet 3 on the PS3, you will be able to play levels that are created on PlayStation 4. (And vice-versa, of course.) However the PS3 versions of the levels won't take advantage of the fact that LBP3 on PS4 can run at 1080P HD or have the increased texture resolutions that LittleBigPlanet 3 on PlayStation 4 will have. ^Extremely limited thermometer on PS4 version confirmed! Hohoo I joke. But I have no idea.... it does sound like that may be the case however. >.> | 2014-06-11 14:32:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| If you play LittleBigPlanet 3 on the PS3, you will be able to play levels that are created on PlayStation 4. (And vice-versa, of course.) However the PS3 versions of the levels won't take advantage of the fact that LBP3 on PS4 can run at 1080P HD or have the increased texture resolutions that LittleBigPlanet 3 on PlayStation 4 will have. well........there goes any chance of me wasting my time and money, i put up with these annoying limitations on LBP2 for far too long as it was. this also confirms 30 frames per second on PS4 | 2014-06-11 14:34:00 Author: evret Posts: 612 |
| STEVEN!!! OMGHI. Please help me out here! I'm planning on getting a PS3 but i want to be absolutely sure that LBP3 will be on there, exactly like the PS4 version (ofcourse without the graphics but it doesnt matter all that much to me). Like, not that it's missing any features. But most of all, it won't suddenly get cancelled along the way, right? Please confirm that! MY MONIES DEPEND ON YOU, STEVEN!!! | 2014-06-11 14:35:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793 |
| this also confirms 30 frames per second on PS4 I'm not sure about that. I think PS4 version may still be 60 FPS. 'shrug' | 2014-06-11 14:36:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| The PS4 version is 60FPS, its in the blog announcement I believe. -hyper | 2014-06-11 14:38:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| well........there goes any chance of me wasting my time and money, i put up with these annoying limitations on LBP2 for far too long as it was. this also confirms 30 frames per second on PS4 It can still work in 60FPS, logic can tick every 2nd frame | 2014-06-11 14:40:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| How about switching between the background and foreground? Wondering what has to be placed between the layers to insure the player doesn't fall between them? Also it looks like there is an object that blows wind and allows the player to move upward which would make for some neat gameplay. | 2014-06-11 14:43:00 Author: shookie99  Posts: 447 |
| What if there is a "logic counter" tick box in the menu in create so that it refreshes every frame or every other frame, and is every other frame by default in the grandfathered levels? This would make logic both more efficient in new levels, but still functional in old ones. | 2014-06-11 14:44:00 Author: poorjack  Posts: 1806 |
| It can still work in 60FPS, logic can tick every 2nd frame LOL, this would just add salt to the wound....... "60FPS!!!! But we aren't letting you use them all!!!" :/ What if there is a "logic counter" tick box in the menu in create so that it refreshes every from or every other frame, and is every other frame by default in the grandfathered levels? This would make logic both more efficient in new levels, but still functional in old ones. nope, coz the ps3 version of LBP3 won't be 60fps..... like I said, PS4 version being held back by PS3 version. | 2014-06-11 14:44:00 Author: evret Posts: 612 |
| LOL, this would just add salt to the wound....... "60FPS!!!! But we aren't letting you use them all!!!" :/ You smart enouth to know that they already need to do that for LBP1 and LBP2 compatibility | 2014-06-11 14:46:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| In B4 tons of disappointed fans because likely fact that the thermometer probably being extremely limited on PS4 version~ But yeah... Sounds more and more like LBP3 was made for the PS3 originally and they made a PS4 port version semi quick. Hmm maybe I'll just get the PS3 version afterall if it's basically the same game as the PS4 version... I want 60FPS but not for 460$ i'll have to pay to do so. *mew | 2014-06-11 14:48:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| was interested by the anouncement of lbp3 for PS4 but the existance of a possible PS3 version has definitely given me pause. If there is a PS3 version, and if the PS3 version can play levels created on the PS4, then i'm not gonna touch this thing with a 10 foot pole....... I?m totally ok with the PS3 version being a boat anchor?because at the end of the day it's a better LBP2 that you can play on the PS4 sooner rather than later. I do think the way this was announced at e3 was being deceptive. If someone is currently developing a true next gen play/create/share game for PS4 with full 3d support, procedural trees, etc, great?but at least I?ll have something fun to play before 2015/16 with LBP3. Not incorporating the LBPV features and bridging the player/sackbot divide are about the only real deal breakers for me. LBPV pretty much ruined LBP2 create mode for me?it was soooo much easier. Not being able to greatly increase the thermo in order to support the PS3 version (assuming levels created on PS4 are playable on PS3?and I think they do need to be) is unfortunate?but I can deal with it. Also really like the new playable layer transitions, platformers like Oddworld and Rayman do something similar, I think this will be a great addition. I wonder if the layers can overlap such that they can be used for backtracking?and if so can the ?forward? layers become transparent, etc. | 2014-06-11 14:50:00 Author: fullofwin Posts: 1214 |
| You smart enouth to know that they already need to do that for LBP1 and LBP2 compatibility every second frame for lbp1, lbp2 and ps3 lbp3 levels would be fine, but the fact here is, We ps4 creators would not be able take advantage of 60fps when the ps3 version will never run at 60fps. held back by ps3 version no matter how you look at | 2014-06-11 14:51:00 Author: evret Posts: 612 |
| Let's put it this way: If they had instead announced that they were porting LittleBigPlanet 2 to the PS4 and adding lots of new features to the game that amounted to $30-40 of DLC, would you like it then? Still, I think they should allow the option of making a level PS4-only for the sake of extra thermo. | 2014-06-11 14:54:00 Author: MMLgamer Posts: 183 |
| every second frame for lbp1, lbp2 and ps3 lbp3 levels would be fine, but the fact here is, We ps4 creators would not be able take advantage of 60fps when the ps3 version will never run at 60fps. held back by ps3 version no matter how you look at That would break imported items, not to mention level prizes | 2014-06-11 14:55:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| 30fps and 60fps is the graphic framerate, not how LBP works with logic, you can animate an object that it makes e.g. a 360? rotation in 1 second, the PS4 will render 60 pictures, the PS3 30 pictures, what's the problem? Do you really need 60Hz for your logic? | 2014-06-11 14:57:00 Author: Hanfi1311 Posts: 776 |
I've never understood this obsession with bloody framerate.  | 2014-06-11 14:58:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085 |
| 30fps and 60fps is the graphic framerate, not how LBP works with logic, you can animate an object that it makes e.g. a 360? rotation in 1 second, the PS4 will render 60 pictures, the PS3 30 pictures, what's the problem? Do you really need 60Hz for your logic? Movement is handled by moving things a calculated distance each frame. It's not all animations. | 2014-06-11 14:59:00 Author: comphermc  Posts: 5338 |
| I've never understood this obsession with bloody framerate. Then you haven't played 1 of your favorite games in 60 FPS. it makes a big difference and extremely even more so if you play a fast paced game.*mew | 2014-06-11 15:01:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| 30fps and 60fps is the graphic framerate, not how LBP works with logic, you can animate an object that it makes e.g. a 360? rotation in 1 second, the PS4 will render 60 pictures, the PS3 30 pictures, what's the problem? Do you really need 60Hz for your logic? Most games calculates on per frame basis, doing that in half of frame would not make any sence as you would no see the result, it would be just waste of CPU power, thats why evre was thinking it confirms 30FPS. But because 60 can be devided by 2 to 30, game can still run 60FPS, but logic calculation is being skipped every 2nd frame allowing logic to still work in 30Hz. But yes that not really importent if you not logic geek like me and evret | 2014-06-11 15:04:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Movement is handled by moving things a calculated distance each frame. It's not all animations. So you're saying the visuals will be twice as smooth as the physics? Do you know if there are any non-aesthetic advantages to PS4 LBP3 besides remote play and the share feature? For instance, what exactly were the problems that plagued LBP PS3 that won't be there on the PS4 and how did they plague the PS3? | 2014-06-11 15:09:00 Author: MMLgamer Posts: 183 |
| That would break imported items, not to mention level prizes 30fps and 60fps is the graphic framerate, not how LBP works with logic, you can animate an object that it makes e.g. a 360? rotation in 1 second, the PS4 will render 60 pictures, the PS3 30 pictures, what's the problem? Do you really need 60Hz for your logic? LBP logic IS tied to the framerate in LBP2, I know that PS4 could render at 60fps and calculate logic, physics etc every second frame to match ps3 version, but this is not my point. TBH i couldn't care less about the visual boost on PS4, I'm fine with 30fps too, what myself and and many others were hoping for was an increase to the amount of things you can cram into your level, an increase to the complexity you could add to your level, an increase to the calculations you could throw at the engine, all without causing framerate and complexity issues. The fact ps4 levels will be playable on ps3 completely squashes those hopes. end of story | 2014-06-11 15:11:00 Author: evret Posts: 612 |
| I don't know, but as said by someone somewhere in the depths of the previous 32 pages, maybe they're compressing level formats? I don't know. And besides that,i want to play it simply because of the new features like 3D layers and powerup creations and everything, not just becuase of extra space or anything. | 2014-06-11 15:15:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793 |
| What if they make two versions of the game? One for the playstation 3 and one for the playstation 4. Both versions would still be able to load and share data between them, but the thermo capacity and graphics would be increased in the ps4 version. | 2014-06-11 15:18:00 Author: Jauw Posts: 484 |
| Guys think this way... this project most likely started as a PS3 project, they might already have some content done when Sony decided to push this as PS4 product and things could not already changed. That would explain why LBP3 was coming so long even thru rumors been flying since last year, but HUB crashed those rumors and people stopped thinking about LBP3.... in reality project was still on the go. Thre also high possibility that LBP3 was suppose to be HUB DLC same as LBP1 and LBP2 would become. | 2014-06-11 15:18:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| Guys think this way... this project most likely started as a PS3 project, they might already have some content done when Sony decided to push this as PS4 product and things could not already changed. That would explain why LBP3 was coming so long even thru rumors been flying since last year, but HUB crashed those rumors and people stopped thinking about LBP3.... in reality project was still on the go. Thre also high possibility that LBP3 was suppose to be HUB DLC same as LBP1 and LBP2 would become. I dont think LBPHub was changed into lbp3, the update back in april 2014 added the text that said how many of your friends were playing lbphub. Why would they add that back then? They were clearly already making lbp3 in april... | 2014-06-11 15:25:00 Author: Jauw Posts: 484 |
| What if they make two versions of the game? One for the playstation 3 and one for the playstation 4. Both versions would still be able to load and share data between them, but the thermo capacity and graphics would be increased in the ps4 version. StevenI already confirmed all LBP3 levels are playable on both versions: If you play LittleBigPlanet 3 on the PS3, you will be able to play levels that are created on PlayStation 4. (And vice-versa, of course.) So it's impossible to use more thermo on the PS4 because then the PS3 wouldn't be able to run the level. It would be nice if they had a level setting to make it PS4-only to increases the thermo. Maybe in a patch? | 2014-06-11 15:31:00 Author: Rogar  Posts: 2284 |
| I wonder how co-create will work with one person on PS3 and other person on PS4 if thermo will be different. Not to mention this is a great way for someone with a PS4 to use the share feature and livestreaming etc for someone who has the game on the PS3 when joining them! -hyper | 2014-06-11 15:35:00 Author: hyperdude95 Posts: 1793 |
| I dont think LBPHub was changed into lbp3, the update back in april 2014 added the text that said how many of your friends were playing lbphub. Why would they add that back then? They were clearly already making lbp3 in april... I think you not getting what HUB suppose to be it suppose to be all in one LBP platform for all LBP content, icluding LBP1 and 2 and most likely 3. LBP1 and LBP2 compatibility was very high, you could play LBP1 DLC levels on LBP2, holding LBP1 story just in LBP1 makes no sence and holding LBP2 story in LBP2 (as LBP3 is backward compatible) would not make sence eiher.It would perfecly explain why it was annouced first and why it was also made by Sumo that worked on LBP3 in same time, but it seems something gone wrong with HUB..... or it's still coming in few months | 2014-06-11 15:35:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| I dont think LBPHub was changed into lbp3, the update back in april 2014 added the text that said how many of your friends were playing lbphub. Why would they add that back then? They were clearly already making lbp3 in april... My Theory: They originally planned to use the LBP2 engine for LBPHub but then delayed it so they could use the LBP3 engine for LBPHub. I predict that when LBPHub comes out, it will no longer interact with LBP2 players and instead will be the freemium LBP3. | 2014-06-11 15:35:00 Author: MMLgamer Posts: 183 |
| If you play LittleBigPlanet 3 on the PS3, you will be able to play levels that are created on PlayStation 4. (And vice-versa, of course.) However the PS3 versions of the levels won't take advantage of the fact that LBP3 on PS4 can run at 1080P HD or have the increased texture resolutions that LittleBigPlanet 3 on PlayStation 4 will have. I'm really not happy with this at all. Every time I look at the footage I keep seeing things that could have been so much better. For a community built around imagination and creativity, I'm astonished at the level of acceptance this version of the game is getting. 1080p and texture resolution is NOT NEXT GEN. It's just current gen with sharper graphics. And I can see ONCE AGAIN how the debate about next gen is being reduced to framerate and resolution. Stop it. This is the LBP community were people have imaginations ... remember? Next gen is SO much more than that, but NOT with LBP3. | 2014-06-11 16:01:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
| Also i don't think you will be able to play between PS3 and PS4 players for very simple reason, even thru it's technically possible, PS3 firend list is not compatible with Vita/PS4 friend list, because of that PS3 and PS4 can't be connected toghther as PS3 see PS4 users offline..... or else they plan to fix that somehow but i dough it | 2014-06-11 16:04:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991 |
| @GribbleGrunger: Well, that's your personal definition of next-gen. I understand the PS4 (and XBone) processing power isn't really that big a leap compared to the previous generations (the memory increase is pretty big though). But it really all depends on what developers do with that power. The trend up to now has been better graphics, so I'd say that's really the definition of next-gen (sad as it sounds). | 2014-06-11 16:12:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284 |
| Also i don't think you will be able to play between PS3 and PS4 players for very simple reason, even thru it's technically possible, PS3 firend list is not compatible with Vita/PS4 friend list, because of that PS3 and PS4 can't be connected toghther as PS3 see PS4 users offline..... or else they plan to fix that somehow but i dough it I hope thats not the case and there's some kind o work around to that. Because I think the last thing we need is to separate the LBP community even more then it already is. *mew | 2014-06-11 16:18:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| Cool they tweeted my gif! https://twitter.com/LittleBigPlanet/status/476682766202204160 https://twitter.com/StevenIsbell/status/476682438618677248 | 2014-06-11 16:25:00 Author: lve_msg Posts: 408 |
| Also i don't think you will be able to play between PS3 and PS4 players for very simple reason, even thru it's technically possible, PS3 firend list is not compatible with Vita/PS4 friend list, because of that PS3 and PS4 can't be connected toghther as PS3 see PS4 users offline..... or else they plan to fix that somehow but i dough it PS3 players can play with PS4 players in DCUO so I don't see why it couldn't be done here. | 2014-06-11 16:31:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527 |
| @GribbleGrunger: Well, that's your personal definition of next-gen. I understand the PS4 (and XBone) processing power isn't really that big a leap compared to the previous generations (the memory increase is pretty big though). But it really all depends on what developers do with that power. The trend up to now has been better graphics, so I'd say that's really the definition of next-gen (sad as it sounds). What are you talking about? Both consoles are a huge leap over last gen. This game is just an upressed version of a last gen game. It's NOT next gen ... not in the least. If you look at The Order, Driveclub or Infamous: Second Son and just think 'higher resolution' then I really don't know what to tell you. I can't even believe I just read that to be honest. LBPPS4 should be a huge leap over LBP2 on the PS3. We should have real time lighting, real time shadows, real time reflections, incredible AI, astonishing post-processing visual effects, soft body physics, incredible liquid physics, 100 times the complexity in level design, 10 times the thermo size, far better sound/music sampling ... It goes on and on. But instead we get nothing buy a higher resolution. | 2014-06-11 16:32:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910 |
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