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Colored Magic Mouths?

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*Sorry if this has been posted already*

In Story mode, everyone has seen the colored Magic Mouths. But, there's no option to change the color on the tweak menu, and you can't put stickers on them.
2009-02-06 12:37:00

Author:
Sackdragon
Posts: 427


Maybe if you make it visible then try and put a sticker ???

Never tried myself so I couldn't tell ya. What about if you press square before you place it. Does it have a tweak then, like the gas????

Really don't know but I thought I'd just suggest these
2009-02-06 12:45:00

Author:
dorien
Posts: 2767


You must be able to sticker them, the MM ones like on the king and queen are.2009-02-06 13:19:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I think you can sticker them, I'll try it and see2009-02-06 14:03:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266


They've probably been cheating again :|, If I'm not mistaken it cannot be done.2009-02-06 14:23:00

Author:
Wyth
Posts: 263


You can't sticker them, but it's been confirmed you can steal some of the colored ones off the story mode objects (i.e. monkey and magician):


've found that if you break enough pieces off a collected object, the game will sometimes treat it as if it were your own object and let you take it apart from there. There's two ways to do it: material change the parts you want to break off into dissolve and hook a switch to 'em and kill 'em. Or get a big metal block and just start smashing stuff with it. If it works, you'll be able to detach the magic mouth and stick it on your own object.
2009-02-06 14:52:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


More things the MM gods can do and we can't.

Nofair.
2009-02-06 15:59:00

Author:
InsanityV2
Posts: 30


the list is quite long guys.


- Stickers on mouths
- Certain tools invisible
- Global level settings switch
- Colored lasers
- Color, bolded character and WAYYY higher number of characters in text boxes

And this is only from the top of my mind.
2009-02-06 16:18:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


the list is quite long guys.


- Stickers on mouths
- Certain tools invisible
- Global level settings switch
- Colored lasers
- Color, bolded character and WAYYY higher number of characters in text boxes

And this is only from the top of my mind.

Don't forget access to certain materials... ie: the stone the elephants are made out of in the temple template level and the invisible material that boarders the level that we can't pass through, even in create mode. >.>
2009-02-06 16:25:00

Author:
Inspectigater
Posts: 126


well now that i think of it... OMG i think i just might have solved how to get higher amount of characters in your text box AND color your magic mouth, You say that the king and queen have that?, then all you need to do is disolve part of the king, and move the magic mouth and play around with it to test my theory, this is how you make colored lasers as well. I will check this out.

Cheers!
2009-02-06 16:48:00

Author:
RAINFIRE
Posts: 1101


well now that i think of it... OMG i think i just might have solved how to get higher amount of characters in your text box AND color your magic mouth, You say that the king and queen have that?, then all you need to do is disolve part of the king, and move the magic mouth and play around with it to test my theory, this is how you make colored lasers as well. I will check this out.

Cheers!

... That's a great idea!
You just figured out how it may be possible to surpass one of the biggest irritation moments in the whole game! I hate arranging and creating a lot of different mouths just because of some stupid character limit .
2009-02-06 17:24:00

Author:
Marklin80
Posts: 458


There's also adding video screens to your levels (gardens), text objects (introduction), sticker image import, and sticker border definitions. But really, I can't say I'm surprised that not all of the tools are suitable for release.2009-02-06 18:26:00

Author:
Risen
Posts: 251


well now that i think of it... OMG i think i just might have solved how to get higher amount of characters in your text box AND color your magic mouth, You say that the king and queen have that?, then all you need to do is disolve part of the king, and move the magic mouth and play around with it to test my theory, this is how you make colored lasers as well. I will check this out.

Cheers!

I'll be looking forward your results.


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2009-02-06 20:32:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


... That's a great idea!
You just figured out how it may be possible to surpass one of the biggest irritation moments in the whole game! I hate arranging and creating a lot of different mouths just because of some stupid character limit .

Lol, QUICK!! Someone tell OCK about this hehe
2009-02-06 20:39:00

Author:
KAPBAM
Posts: 1348


Lol, QUICK!! Someone tell OCK about this hehe

Lol! This can be used to get semi-circle sensor switches etc. as well.
2009-02-06 20:49:00

Author:
dkjestrup
Posts: 672


well now that i think of it... OMG i think i just might have solved how to get higher amount of characters in your text box AND color your magic mouth, You say that the king and queen have that?, then all you need to do is disolve part of the king, and move the magic mouth and play around with it to test my theory, this is how you make colored lasers as well. I will check this out.

Cheers!

Well it's not as straightforward as it seems. You can grab the mouths no problem (and editable lasers too), but you might be surprised what's in their text box when you go to edit them.

IIRC you won't find the actual text, but some kind of strange code that probably points to a location in the game data where the real text is stored. Undoubtedly, this is how Mm is able to colorize specific words in their text bubbles... its running off scripts.
2009-02-06 21:15:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


So if you take that script junk and write it in one of your own mouths, will the game go get the same text and its options?




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2009-02-06 22:23:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


Hmm, this is starting to get technical! Another thing I noticed was Mm can add stickers to a decoration. For example the magician's beard is the hair decoration, with a white sticker on it. The list is getting bigger!2009-02-06 23:17:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266


My, my. I never expected this thread to get so many replies. I'll look into the codes soon. I could use some colored words.2009-02-07 00:34:00

Author:
Sackdragon
Posts: 427


My, my. I never expected this thread to get so many replies. I'll look into the codes soon. I could use some colored words.

Man if we can figure out their script it might not be blocked from us. That would be AWESOME.


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2009-02-07 00:44:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


anyone tried it yet? does it work? we got super text boxes yet?...
EDIT: *reads page two* ****... lol oh well interesting stuff though..
2009-02-07 01:09:00

Author:
Madafaku
Posts: 738


Lol! This can be used to get semi-circle sensor switches etc. as well.

Yea the semi circle switches could be VERY useful... but I'm sorry to say I gave it a go with the magic mouths, and the results were "glitchlessly" disappointing. I was able to detatch both the red mouth from the japanese girl and the gardens king. But that's as far as the success went. The mouths have the same allowed text length, so no bonuses there, and if you were hoping for a coloured mouth, well, you can have it, but it will not talk, I could not get the red mouth to activate, although when I think of it, I did not try attaching it to a switch, maybe that might jog it, but I doubt it. There was some weird text written when I opened the text input on the red mouth, don't know what it was about, but it might have something to do with why it is useless...

Well that's my report on the situation
2009-02-07 04:56:00

Author:
KAPBAM
Posts: 1348


There was some weird text written when I opened the text input on the red mouth, don't know what it was about, but it might have something to do with why it is useless...

Well that's my report on the situation


That's what we talked about earlier. They get special boxes thanks to some script. (That's what you see written in the red mouth).

I hope they will open those scripts to us at some point

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2009-02-07 06:48:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


You can win for example the King right...? But the King doesn't have the same speech bubble each time... So everytime you're somewhere else.. it probably detects where you are at that point, and then activate a certain speech bubble. So that's why there's only a code inserted in the speech bubble when you go to "tweak"2009-02-07 07:51:00

Author:
Yarbone
Posts: 3036


I tried it out last night, too. Sadly, just as KAPBAM reported the character length was the same length and I didn't notice it doing any talking... though I did trigger it when walking past, iirc.

Phooey.
2009-02-07 11:58:00

Author:
Inspectigater
Posts: 126


Well, that's not too surprising. What we have been given is just the story character in a lifeless format, rather than when they are doing a super long script.

Some day they might bring it in, I hope they do. Magic mouths are really frustrating to be used at the moment to convey a decent amount of text. The player base has invented all sorts of work arounds, but to get them working 100% perfectly no matter what system you use is near impossible.
2009-02-07 13:44:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


Lol, QUICK!! Someone tell OCK about this hehe

You made me smile
2009-02-07 13:49:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536


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