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| ya people on youtube are huge jerks like...some people can get opinion confused with fact some times too that doesn't help. I don't have too big of a stance on either bands i like them both just not a ton. i never got too big into megadeath though but they have some sweet songs.. i heard one from their new CD that rox | 2009-02-28 17:00:00 Author: Hamsalad  Posts: 2551 |
I think Kirk and James may be less skilled, but to me are better because it is what they have written that makes me love them as a band - i love the guitar, and i don't really care for Megadeth. So for me personally, they are better because although as you say they arent technically as good, they have written better music (in my opinion  ... assuming we forget about *some* of the albums LOL) | 2009-02-28 19:59:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| ya i know what you mean by *some*, some of their later albums suck : / ...i. supose everyone makes a bad album | 2009-02-28 21:26:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| lol. but death magnetic is really good | 2009-02-28 22:58:00 Author: Unknown User |
| considering that death magnetic is what happens when you put ride the lightning, master of puppets, and ...and justice in a blender, yes it is good, but its not at all original. still i like it. | 2009-02-28 23:09:00 Author: Thegide  Posts: 1465 |
Doesn't need to be original.... it's awesome  lol and mixing the mentioned albums can only produce good | 2009-02-28 23:24:00 Author: Unknown User |
| i had a left handed cherry sunburst les paul stolen three years ago. no insurance. gone. me and the singer in the band at the time, who was the best man at my wedding, found out who did it. we never got the guitar back but we got revenge. I've been fancying a gibson 335, or at least the epiphone copy. Its hard to find a good guitar left handed. John Squire from the stone roses played one. Thats a band to check out for all you americans and UK people not old enough to know. | 2009-03-01 05:52:00 Author: GruntosUK  Posts: 1754 |
| That story breaks my heart, really. Thank god I have my stuff insured, although my Ibanez could not be replaced even if I tried. The model isn't made any longer AND it's autographed. Seriously the punishment for theft should be death. | 2009-03-01 06:08:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
oh dude that sucks  left handed guitar erm... you could get zacky vengeances schecter... taht is left handed | 2009-03-01 10:20:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Ok, I've finally to decided to get out my old guitar and start learning again. I haven't played in about half a year so do you guys suggest any songs for me to learn. Not beginner songs though, just sorta' intermediate. | 2009-03-01 20:00:00 Author: olit123  Posts: 1341 |
| ya i like the new album; for some reason i've heard some people say they don't but i would say its much better than their last couple. well for chord transitioning / fun ...maybe in bloom by nirvana thats really fun. for some quick alternating string plucking do simple man by lynard skynard | 2009-03-01 20:41:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| St Anger. i dont even class that as one of their albums >_< | 2009-03-01 21:18:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Ok, I've finally to decided to get out my old guitar and start learning again. I haven't played in about half a year so do you guys suggest any songs for me to learn. Not beginner songs though, just sorta' intermediate. What kind of music are you interested in? What are some of the harder songs you can already play? I can probably make some recommendations with this info. FYI I'm a guitar instructor on the side, so feel free to shoot me any questions. | 2009-03-02 02:57:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| i had a left handed cherry sunburst les paul stolen three years ago. no insurance. gone. me and the singer in the band at the time, who was the best man at my wedding, found out who did it. we never got the guitar back but we got revenge. I've been fancying a gibson 335, or at least the epiphone copy. Its hard to find a good guitar left handed. John Squire from the stone roses played one. Thats a band to check out for all you americans and UK people not old enough to know. wow dude thats terrible...hopefully im guessing it was . was some good revenge. but now i finally decided i was going to learn a song...and can't think of anything to learn lol. I have mainly just been practicing scales for a while | 2009-03-02 03:56:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Then go learn this one! "Twilight of the Thunder God" by Amon Amarth. Seriously awesome song. | 2009-03-02 15:48:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| i'll check it out; im sure anything you reccommend is uber leet. i just hope its not too hard. thanks for your suggestion though | 2009-03-02 17:27:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I'm learning the end of the line by metallica | 2009-03-02 18:36:00 Author: Unknown User |
| i'll check it out; im sure anything you reccommend is uber leet. i just hope its not too hard. thanks for your suggestion though Nah it's not too bad. I don't just play uber shred you know... really that's only good for solos anyways  People forget that rhythm guitar proficiency is far more important.FYI the song is played in D# standard tuning (everything down a half step) if you're trying to match it to the album. | 2009-03-02 19:20:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ya it is really really important that your rythem players are .....on rythem lol. so D# ....is just half a step all the way....not like half a step and drop d? i just got to kind of listen to it quitely in my cube lol...it sounds pretty cool. sounds like it was doing that one rythem riff for a while | 2009-03-02 19:24:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| No dropped 6th string. Tuning is D# G# C# F# A# D#. | 2009-03-02 19:30:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| one trick a friend told me about going half a step or probably even a whole step etc is... for half a step for example...hold down the first fret and tune it to 'E' still for example...so still tune it normally but by holding down the first fret. although it makes it a huge pain to tune like that...i'm sure i would rather just know the real notes to tune it to | 2009-03-02 19:35:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I'm sure i would rather just know the real notes to tune it to Well if you want to call yourself a musician, I recommend doing this instead. | 2009-03-02 20:07:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| '#' is sharp and 'b' is flat right? ...so when you tune to D# ...everything is sharp | 2009-03-02 20:13:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| If you're in Drop D, only the 6th string is tuned down. I don't know what having all the strings tuned down is called. | 2009-03-02 20:16:00 Author: qrtda235566  Posts: 3664 |
| that would be half a step....its what lynard skynard or guns n roses plays in...i'm sure a lot of other bands do it.. it pretty much makes it so your first fret is really the equivilent of doing the open string normally. you can go a full step etc...so everything is like a full or half a step down the fret board than what it normally would be.... i prob did a crappy job of explaining but if you tune half a step it ALMOST sounds the same as normal because everything is just moved one fret down | 2009-03-02 20:19:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| If you're in Drop D, only the 6th string is tuned down. I don't know what having all the strings tuned down is called. In this case, it is called "D# standard tuning" Normal tuning (EADGBE would be "E standard tuning") Drop D is well... drop D (DADGBE) For really heavy riffage, you could use Drop C: CGCFAD or standard C: CFA#D#GC. You could use open D tuning as well if you were playing in the key of D: DADF#AD (the notes that make up the chord D major), although this is fairly uncommon in rock. You would see this a lot if you were playing blues (perhaps folk or country too), since it gives you tuning appropriate for using a slide. What does this all mean? - "standard tuning" means the strings are tuned as normally relative to each other - "drop tuning" implies standard tuning with the 6th string down a whole step (2 frets) - "open tuning" implies all the strings are tuned to the notes found in a particular chord | 2009-03-02 21:28:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ya i think slip knot does standard C tuning....how many steps is that from E? 2? i think your strings are almost falling off at that point pretty much right? and also; how i used half a step tuning + Drop D (which wouldnt be drop D at that point). is there any sort of name for tuning like that | 2009-03-02 21:30:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| ya i think slip knot does standard C tuning....how many steps is that from E? 2? i think your strings are almost falling off at that point pretty much right? and also; how i used half a step tuning + Drop D (which wouldnt be drop D at that point). is there any sort of name for tuning like that Yes, it's two steps down. The strings are loose, no doubt about it, which is why you typically have to up-gauge and run heavier strings. This is particularly tricky when using a floating bridge (i.e. floyd rose) and usually you also need to compensate by removing or downgrading the claw springs (that pull your bridge in the opposite direction). When I was in a metal band a couple of years ago I was running standard C tuning on my ESP and removed one claw springs (leaving 2) and as well, used 0.012-0.056 gauge strings. To answer your second question, that tuning would be called Drop C# | 2009-03-02 21:46:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| i have a floating bridge i prob wouldn't be able to do that...i know my instructor said they get like a huge gauge to compensate. I would like to try out standard C though. I bet it sounds awesome | 2009-03-02 21:56:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| slipknot use drop A actually well on some stuff - phsycosocial is drop a | 2009-03-02 22:32:00 Author: Unknown User |
| BMTH use drop G wooohoooo | 2009-03-02 22:35:00 Author: Zommy  Posts: 1232 |
| Metallica use standard! and they rule | 2009-03-02 22:37:00 Author: Unknown User |
| drop G is better and sounds great and metallica are losing it now... but i hate dave mustaine. met him hes a [rude word... with 7 letters...]. he was drunk out of his mind and i was in a BMTH hoodie and he had a go at me swearing his head off it was like *beep* this *beep* that your a little *beep* *drinks more beer...* thats dave mustaine for you... but hes left WOOOHOOOO | 2009-03-02 22:42:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| Sometimes hamsalad puts a gun to my head and forces me to play bass for him. This my bass http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z129/JpaulTawok/mybass.jpg | 2009-03-02 23:18:00 Author: HalfaSack  Posts: 214 |
| wow drop G holy crap....also what is that abbreviation for zommy? its true halfasack hates to play bass but i try to make him. also which guy is dave mustaine? thats strange ironmadien because my guitar teacher is wicked awesome at the guitar and he listend to phycosocial when i asked him to teach it to me and he said it was drop C....guess he could be mistaken he told me it wouldnt be worth it to retune / getting bigger strings etc. just for that song that bass is pretty cool Sun Burst FTW! | 2009-03-02 23:54:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| BMTH-Bring me the Horizon - say there crap and i'll hunt you down like the bunny hunting the carrot... so elegant moving...so stealthy...as if hes not there... heres a good song for you all to learn - the peter griffon version... ROCK LOBSTER!! Dave Mustaine is metallica's old rythm/lead - he swapped with james alot... and now hes singer/lead guitar for Megadeth... and that bass is so cool! | 2009-03-03 00:26:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| ah....i actually kind of figured out the first part to rock lobster by ear last night.... i think its just the first 3 notes in like a major scale pattern... like on the G string (*peter griffin laugh* hahahahahahh .....G string) Do first finger on 5th fret third finger on 7th fret and fourth finger on 8th fret actually i dont think i've heard of them..... that may be worse than saying their bad? lol | 2009-03-03 00:37:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| i have a floating bridge i prob wouldn't be able to do that...i know my instructor said they get like a huge gauge to compensate. I would like to try out standard C though. I bet it sounds awesome It's really hard on a guitar to go back and forth with drastic tunings like this. For this reason I have guitars dedicated to low tunings slipknot use drop A actually well on some stuff - phsycosocial is drop a 7-string guitars (BEADGBE) tuned down a step on their 7th string. Rusty Cooley also has 8-string guitars available through Ibanez now (GBEADGBE) | 2009-03-03 14:25:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Battle of the Bands a week on friday after school i am planning on not being thrown out of this one before we lay for drinking lol we are playing thunderstruck (ac dc) and Slither (velvet Revolver) and then in too deep as the third song | 2009-03-03 17:27:00 Author: Unknown User |
| thats are pretty cool songs, good luck. I remember last time you said you got kicked out for being drunk. Can you play that rythem part for thunderstruck / all of both songs? | 2009-03-03 23:36:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| i just went to a BotB and my mates band won. good old selective walk... well anyway i got shoved into a pit, i swear pits are funner when you just ate a huge bag of jelly babies and a huge bag of starburst sours, really makes it funner | 2009-03-03 23:42:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| lol.....they played walk you mean? | 2009-03-03 23:42:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| no the bands name is selective walk lol | 2009-03-03 23:44:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| ah cool. they should play "walk" ..lol haha. I love that song..no one can do it like pantera did though. I think the best remake I heard was probably Avenge Seven Fold's...Triviums was ok but the singer can't do the voice quite the same | 2009-03-03 23:50:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| thats are pretty cool songs, good luck. I remember last time you said you got kicked out for being drunk. Can you play that rythem part for thunderstruck / all of both songs? the rhythm for thunderstruck is like 1 chord for ages and then i just play like 3 other chords wile my lead guitarist plays some solos :? show off >_< lol | 2009-03-04 07:00:00 Author: Unknown User |
| i thought the rythem was that crazy fast part... i don't think its very hard but its really fast | 2009-03-04 16:16:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| there is the tapping bit which plays for a while - that is angus young, and malcom just plays like one chord over and over, then the chorus.... | 2009-03-04 16:43:00 Author: Unknown User |
| sounds boring... | 2009-03-04 17:00:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| it is for me yeah >_< but whatever... slither is good to play, and in too deep isnt bad | 2009-03-04 17:05:00 Author: Unknown User |
| 5 points til level up lol oh and my band is writing some screwed up spoof songs | 2009-03-04 17:08:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| lol my band said i can't write songs atm because all my songs sound to heavy - that is metallica and BFMV etc. influence for ya and i though i had written a cool one which turned out to just be sad but true, and it took me a minute to work out i had simply tabbed it out lol | 2009-03-04 17:13:00 Author: Unknown User |
| lol sounds liek your a good tabbist then | 2009-03-04 17:19:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| not really - it was only really the intro and stuff, and i didn't mean to do it lol i am assuming you were being sarcastic though | 2009-03-04 18:25:00 Author: Unknown User |
| 5 points til level up lol oh and my band is writing some screwed up spoof songs me and some buddies make spoof songs...well one really but. ironmaiden you should record it and put it on here and/or make power tabs and put it up. I'll try to record some i made up and post them. pretty lame they say its too heavy [edit]: also i think zommy was just point whoring lol hahah | 2009-03-04 18:56:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| lol. and i would record it but meh i have nothing to record it with and meh lol | 2009-03-04 19:10:00 Author: Unknown User |
| [edit]: also i think zommy was just point whoring lol hahah How else do you think he has 100% posting activity? He must want that Ultimate bundle real bad... | 2009-03-04 19:16:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| 100% posting? i just have activity and yes i do want the bundle lol its so much more to go though lol i need 1.5k more lolz... and im not whoring i just remembered and thought i would post it lol. anyway one of thems a mock of McR quite funny | 2009-03-04 19:18:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| lol. and i would record it but meh i have nothing to record it with and meh lol use your computer or cell phone if you have one! also i have 100% activity XD | 2009-03-04 19:21:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| @ zommy - Don't Mock MCR!!! | 2009-03-04 19:31:00 Author: Unknown User |
| oh i just realized who they are...i would support mocking McR lol.. | 2009-03-04 19:37:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| McR suck... | 2009-03-04 20:09:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| It's all opinions but, I don't really like "emo" type music / rock. I like punk rock a lot but not like emo. | 2009-03-04 20:17:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| meh i like it they are one of my favourite bands, along with metallica (win) BFMV, Machine Head etc.... | 2009-03-04 20:25:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Lol... all this MCR talk makes me think of this: YouTube - Emo Orange | 2009-03-04 21:50:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| lol hahaha. that was pretty good | 2009-03-04 21:56:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| mcr arent even THAT emo :/ the lyrics to One by metallica are more emo that mcr's.... | 2009-03-04 21:59:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Who said it had anything to do with lyrics? http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/mcr-08-py.jpg http://republika.pl/blog_bg_3358209/3777597/tr/mcr5.jpg | 2009-03-04 22:02:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| wow....nuff said i guess? Ya it pretty much has to do w/ the whole presentation and their overall Band mentality. Where as Metallica clearly isn't putting up that front so they can have a sad song and not be considered emo. Where as MCR does put up that front and as far as i can tell most their songs are emo. But I don't care really people can like what they like; its just not my style. As long as i dont have to listen to it im fine | 2009-03-04 22:09:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| the video for one is depressing lol the most depressing ive ever watched and its annoying because of the voices inbetween lyrics... | 2009-03-04 22:14:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| If you actually listen to them (as in interviews and stuff) they are never like talking about death or anything like that, they are very anti-emo,and have always said when called emo that they do not want people to think they are emo, and that they don't want to cause anything to do witht that. they hate being classed as emo, because they aren't. infact gerard (singer) is afraid of sharp things lol... not very useful for an emo. The second image is from the three cheers for sweet revenge album, and and that was just what they wore for the duration of the live stuff on that album because it fit in with the themes, the same with the black parade image, which was what they wore live. if you look at what they wear in a normal show, it is different to that - just normal clothes: i actually cant find any that are what i mean - they are all photoshoots that fit in with the albums >_< but this is more like it: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Vd-hlwAI45M/SYCRz4GvNeI/AAAAAAAABHI/R6RavFldM2g/s400/my-chemical-romance-1.jpg edit: the first one isn't even emo! it's just the drummer jacket things they wear for welcome to the black parade! it's just themed! | 2009-03-04 22:15:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Hehe, man its cool I'm just bugging. If you like em, that's fine by me. I find it funny that MCR fans are so hardcore devoted to defending them from being emo. As far as their music goes and a lot of other associated acts, it's teenage angst all over again, and for older guys like me, that's just a bunch of whining (funny that a lot of current indie is the same) which is what earns it the emo title in the first place. Back when I was your age, it was grunge and alt., and we wore way too much plaid and ripped jeans and smoked a lot of drugs and no doubt people made fun of us for that. Anyways, for clarification, death isn't emo. Crying about how oppressive your parents are and pretending nobody understands you is. Wearing black isn't emo... it's goth. But, wearing black while trying to look like the guys from Weezer, with your hair parted stupid and hanging in your face is (see: Good Charlotte). In fact, here's an excellent handbook: YouTube - how to be emo | 2009-03-04 23:26:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| its up to you what music you like i cant make you like music because i like it lol thats why music is a gift | 2009-03-04 23:29:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| Good point thegide....about the grundge comparison. I like older type music like Skynard or up to 90s stuff. But I also like some modern rock so I'm kind of unusual in my taste. | 2009-03-05 01:34:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Hehe, man its cool I'm just bugging. If you like em, that's fine by me. I find it funny that MCR fans are so hardcore devoted to defending them from being emo. As far as their music goes and a lot of other associated acts, it's teenage angst all over again, and for older guys like me, that's just a bunch of whining (funny that a lot of current indie is the same) which is what earns it the emo title in the first place. Back when I was your age, it was grunge and alt., and we wore way too much plaid and ripped jeans and smoked a lot of drugs and no doubt people made fun of us for that. Anyways, for clarification, death isn't emo. Crying about how oppressive your parents are and pretending nobody understands you is. Wearing black isn't emo... it's goth. But, wearing black while trying to look like the guys from Weezer, with your hair parted stupid and hanging in your face is (see: Good Charlotte). In fact, here's an excellent handbook: YouTube - how to be emo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGLv3IEL0VI) lol it's only after re-reading my post i can se how pathetic i sound... but oh well *cough* and they aren't emo*cough* | 2009-03-05 17:30:00 Author: Unknown User |
| This is what RainofFire posted about YouTube - Pirates of the Caribbean [Main Theme] on guitar Here is a cooler version IMO YouTube - Pirates of the Caribbean meets Rock -Like a M.Schenker- (add "&fmt=18" for stereo) | 2009-03-05 19:22:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| thats quite epic! | 2009-03-05 19:46:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| That was pretty awesome! | 2009-03-05 21:31:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Also my favorite canon rock rendition YouTube - The NEW Canon Rock -- Guitar by MattRach, 15 yr old guitarist Here is a couple pretty cool buckethead song that are little known YouTube - Buckethead: Acoustic Shards - Stay out of the shed YouTube - Young Buckethead - Acoustic Shards - Who Me (1991) | 2009-03-05 21:45:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| A 15 year old kid with a Jem? Man some kids have it waaaay too easy in life. Even if I had money, I wouldn't spoil my kid with a $3000 electric guitar. | 2009-03-06 15:30:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ya it's pretty crazy.....he's got some skills though I'm pretty sure that's his own rendition | 2009-03-06 16:59:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| anyone got a ipod touch or iphone and taptap revenge? theres some good songs for it you can download for fre! | 2009-03-06 18:52:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| is it like guitar hero? i've played the pocket guitar on an iphone...it was kind of cool but really hard to play lol | 2009-03-06 19:06:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I'm old school. I own neither an iPod nor a cell phone. Never had much use for either. | 2009-03-06 19:12:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| No cell phone?!?! Your crazy | 2009-03-06 19:16:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I'm old school. I own neither an iPod nor a cell phone. Never had much use for either. Lol - I'm depressingly modish. I've got an iPod Classic and an iPod Touch and three mobile (cell) phones. *sigh* | 2009-03-06 19:17:00 Author: Boogaloo  Posts: 254 |
| The only reason for me to have a cell phone is to make outgoing calls on the run, and to be reachable by the wife. However, given that I'm generally at home or at work, it's of little value given that I can be reached or make calls on a land line. Paying fifty bucks a month to use a cell for the sake of being too impatient to call once I'm near a land line has always seemed pretty stupid. That's $600 a year that stays in my pocket. Oh yeah, and I hate receiving phone calls. I'm a pretty busy guy, so phone calls are nothing more than annoying interruptions to me... and I get pissy when lots of people call at once. If I had a cell, I'd probably keep it off at all times unless I wanted to call out. Or I'd forget it at home or in the car. | 2009-03-06 19:23:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ya you have some very logical backing. But for me personally its I feel a landline is a waste because a cell phone is on me at all times; where as the landline is only at my home. So I only have a cell and no landline. I don't get as annoyed...maybe cause I don't get as many calls? lol | 2009-03-06 19:25:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| i have like 10 mp3s a ipod touch 2g and a ipod nano 3g and then i have 6 phones... msot are old phones which i previously used. i need a song to learn on drums it doesnt matter what but i just need to learn something lol | 2009-03-06 21:02:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| Well i just Bought a Dunlop CryBaby GCB-95 pedal for ?45 brand new off ebay! | 2009-03-07 00:24:00 Author: Unknown User |
| nice dude thats awesome good find... i still need a wah pedal...well a whole effects processor for that matter...and a new amp lol. I need to pay a lot of crap off first | 2009-03-07 00:28:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I looked up basket case and apparnetly ---guitar tune down ? step whats that? | 2009-03-07 03:41:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Basket case? As in green day? Tune down half step... everything down 1 fret. | 2009-03-07 04:02:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| wow thats weird...i copy and pasted that from another site...it had something weird like "fad(something)... and apparently it translated to half a step when i copied it.... maybe my computer at work couldn't read the 1/2 symbol | 2009-03-08 22:26:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| lol im learning some a7x on drums its quite hard | 2009-03-09 00:02:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| ya i'd imagine so... i havn't played too much drums | 2009-03-09 01:24:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| The Rev is like, one of the best drummers imo and he is my favourite drummer - he is actually insane YouTube - The Rev is insane (contains BAAAAD language!! but we lov him anyway | 2009-03-09 08:20:00 Author: Unknown User |
| wow that guy is crazy.....literally lol my favorite drummers are neil pert from rush, travis barker from blink 182... the drummer from tool (soz don't know his name) | 2009-03-09 23:34:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| omg. my bands singer walked out, 4 days before our first gig (well, my first with this band lol) we have a new one, but we have no time to practice >_< | 2009-03-09 23:37:00 Author: Unknown User |
| over some dumb drama I take it? | 2009-03-09 23:40:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| so i'm thinking about getting this http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Native-Instruments-GUITAR-RIG-Session-FULL?sku=703278 to record my guitaring and what not on a computer....i think i'll still need another program to actually do the recording... any suggestions ..like anything bettter etc.? I can't afford to spend much | 2009-03-10 23:39:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| If you have a mac you have garageband, which isn't bad but other than that i can't really help.... And the new singer is awesome And the crybaby rules! love it | 2009-03-10 23:45:00 Author: Unknown User |
| ya looking for the hardware itself so i can hook it up via USB or w/e to my computer... and no i don't have a mac XD....but if someone knows of free good editing / recording software once i get the hardware that would be cool too | 2009-03-11 00:13:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| drop G is better and sounds great and metallica are losing it now... but i hate dave mustaine. met him hes a [rude word... with 7 letters...]. he was drunk out of his mind and i was in a BMTH hoodie and he had a go at me swearing his head off it was like *beep* this *beep* that your a little *beep* *drinks more beer...* thats dave mustaine for you... but hes left WOOOHOOOO Dave Mustaine has been gone for a while...like before Metallica recorded Kill 'em all...so yeah. And I'm sure he was a rude word with seven letters, but that doesn't make him a bad musician. You know who else is a rude word with seven letters? Lars Ulrich....wait...that's a bad example....Lars Ulrich really is a bad musician What is BMTH? Bring Me the Horizon? ...ew. | 2009-03-11 01:21:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| your eww lol nah your cool, but hey its my oppinion on what bands i like and i like BMTH so yeah... i learnt a a7x song on drums- afterlife is quite hard lol especially the guitar solo it gets a bit confusing when swapping to the doubling up each hit so if it was normally along these lines ill just tab the snare and hi-hat as example because thats all i need for it. and ill use x for hit o for not hit lol S-: x-o-x-o HH:x-x-x-x that would be S-  X-OO-XX-OOGG X-XX-XX-XXthats quite a bad example lol- i other words you just hit each drum/accesories (symbols and stuff like triangles) twice instead of once | 2009-03-11 01:30:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| Drum tabs are stupid. Why not read the music? All my friends use drum tabs! Makes meh angreh! But now we're getting off topic! | 2009-03-11 03:43:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| learned a great finger exercise which is actually the main riff to a song... it is Last Resort by Papa Roach. 7 notes... and 4 changeable bass notes... not too hard to do it slow... but you need to play it fast to get it to sound good. So it is a good finger warm up fyi. Cheers! | 2009-03-11 06:08:00 Author: RAINFIRE  Posts: 1101 |
| Drum tabs are stupid. Why not read the music? All my friends use drum tabs! Makes meh angreh! But now we're getting off topic! Drum tabs have their uses when it's really hard to figure out what's going on for a particular fill, but for the most part I think they're useless. Most drummer's kits are highly personalized... so trying to standardize notation is really impractical. It's like if everyone tuned their guitars differently. Besides, drums are incredibly easy to figure out by ear, and you can easily get away with faking stuff that sounds similar. I'm not much of a drummer, but if I can play fast metal with double bass on drums and some messed up prog stuff without looking at tab, I got to believe any dedicated drummer can. | 2009-03-11 06:36:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| sounds good rainfire i'll check it out.....thegide did you have any stance on cheap recording equipment or the the guitar rig i linked up there | 2009-03-11 16:58:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Are you using Mac or PC? Just in case you're not crystal clear on this, that guitar rig package is a USB sound card (just like the one inside your computer) complete with amp modeling software (as a virtual instrument, or VST) and recording software (called a DAW, or digital audio workstation). The hardware I can't comment on. It's certainly not one of the more popular units, and that sort of worries me. Native Instruments does make good software, though, and you will probably find everything you need in Guitar Rig 3. Guitar Rig 3 will let you use the sound card as "DI" or direct injection. This means you plug your guitar straight into the sound card and worry about your tone (i.e. distortion, etc) on the computer side. The recording software is good. Cubase LE 4 is the same that I received with my card and is the home version of industry flagship software (Cubase 4 is like Pro Tools). KORE player is another VST program, and will let you use the MIDI instruments included with it in your recordings (unlike windows MIDI, these are high quality sound clips). It's a sampler, which means KORE acts like a sound bank library. You can program MIDI tracks using a mouse, but usually you would use a keyboard. KORE is freeware by the way. You can download it off their website, so this isn't a selling point IMO. Before purchasing anything, please go HERE: http://www.recordingreview.com/soundcard/soundcard_wizard.php The M-Audio boxes are pretty popular, as are the Presonus boxes, E-MU, and Eridol boxes. You're probably looking for a generic 2-input interface. Make sure you get one with Phantom Power, or some mics will not work with it (condenser mics - they require power supplied over the XLR cable - this is called phantom power). They will all let you do DI, however, you will want to procure some good amp-modeling software in addition. If you want to use your soundcard to record your amplifier, all of these should work, but you will need to get a good microphone. A Shure SM57 is an excellent dynamic mic for recording guitar cabinets. A Line6 POD might also work well for you, especially if you're looking for amp-modeling. By amp modeling, I'm talking having software pretend to be your amp instead of actually having a big-sounding huge amp. The POD is not a soundcard though, so you still have to decide how you want to get the sound into your computer. Certainly lots of youtube guitar players that have great quality sound are doing this. | 2009-03-11 20:03:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ah wow...thanks. I knew you would have good insight...Ya since this is my first one and I'm on a budget I'm looking to go low price here but obviously still don't want to get a peice of crap... So two input would be fine for me. So the guitar rig software lets you record and do stuff like that? I was looking for something where I could make my own drum beats and maybe even bass lines too and peice it all together like that. Thats pretty crazy I didn't know the rig itself WAS a sound card....hmm I knew it was USB. I just want pretty much a basic set up so I can record myself and maybe have a buddy jack in w/ me and some nice editing software. And also it's going to be for a PC..I want a Mac but can't afford the Mac tax...plus I'm pretty much getting the laptop for free...I did some bartering...trading a PSP + a game + a 4 gig memory card for it [Edit]: wow dude great site thanks for that i'm reading it now | 2009-03-11 20:09:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I just updated my post. I realize its a bit confusing, so I'll try to break it down. 1. Where is your guitar's sound coming from? - amplifier - amp-modeling hardware (i.e. POD) or software (i.e. Guitar Rig 3)** 2. How are you getting the sound into the computer - amplifier --> microphone --> sound card (non-DI) - guitar -->sound card-->amp modeling software (DI) - guitar --> amp modeling hardware --> sound card (DI) 3. How are you recording the sound - DAW software (Cubase 4 LE) 4. How are you adding drum tracks or keyboard tracks - recording live instruments (microphone) - programming instrument sequences (VST) - VST sound comes from a sampler (KORE) - note sequence comes from sequencer (in Cubase 4 LE) ------------------------------------- ** Guitar Rig 3 is not recording software, you will use Cubase 4 LE to record with this rig. You won't get more than 2-input for less than $400 or so. The other thing to consider is whether you want to go USB or Firewire. Firewire is the better interface IMO, however it can be very difficult to get working correctly (careful selection of a firewire card might be required). | 2009-03-11 20:13:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Ok...so the guitar rig itself is pretty much just an external sound card that's adapted to pick up the guitar sound......and the guitar rig soft ware is just going to act as my amp pretty much.. (I've used a guitar rig at a friends house before just don't know much about it obviously..I know you can go through and pick your distortion and what not) I know you said KORE is the sampler kit.....(meaning it prob has drum loops or sounds / bass and w/e) but.. it doesn't allow me to record / peice things together right? You said I need that Cubase for that. Is there any free program that will allow me to record my riff through my guitar rig and then also add the drum loops and hwat not...Nevermind it soundsl ike the Cubase does that...and I would just get the samples from KORE? Is Cubase free? | 2009-03-11 20:18:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Ok...so the guitar rig itself is pretty much just an external sound card that's adapted to pick up the guitar sound......and the guitar rig soft ware is just going to act as my amp pretty much.. (I've used a guitar rig at a friends house before just don't know much about it obviously..I know you can go through and pick your distortion and what not) I know you said KORE is the sampler kit.....(meaning it prob has drum loops or sounds / bass and w/e) but.. it doesn't allow me to record / peice things together right? You said I need that Cubase for that. Is there any free program that will allow me to record my riff through my guitar rig and then also add the drum loops and hwat not...Nevermind it soundsl ike the Cubase does that...and I would just get the samples from KORE? Is Cubase free? Cubase 4 LE comes with the Guitar Rig 3 package. | 2009-03-11 20:23:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Oh cool...so the guitar rig comes with everything pretty much from the sounds of it except for maybe the samples... From that thing I was reading it sounds like firewire is one you actually have to install IN your computer right? That guy who made that said it's best but USB 2.0 is good too. And the guitar rig I was looking at was only $200 that's why it peaked my interest so much...and apparently if i buy that and register on their site they give me a full version of guitar rig 3 software as a "rebate' | 2009-03-11 20:29:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| A lot of the 2-input ones I listed are in the $200 price range as well, and they all come with DAW software (Presonus ships with Cubase LE, M-Audio ships with Ableton Live!). I suggest you shop around and ask advice at your local guitar store. The sampler libraries that will come with this hardware you will find *very* limiting. They are pretty much demos - that's it. Good quality sampler libraries are not cheap (For example, I'm saving up for Kontakt 5 now... its almost $400) With the demo libraries you will be able to write simple drum tracks, though you might not like the drum sounds. So, you can buy drum sampler software afterwards... it all integrates into Cubase. BFD drums or Drumkit From Hell 2 (DFH) are both excellent standalone drum libraries. Firewire and USB sound cards are both external, but not all computers have a firewire port (but all have usb ports). If you don't have a firewire port, you will need to buy a firewire interface card (internal PCI card; these arent expensive). Do not use the firewire port on other pieces of hardware (like the Soundblaster Audigy 2 sound card... it has a firewire port, but it will not work). | 2009-03-11 21:03:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| For recording software I just use a microphone....Yeah. Recording is what studios are for. | 2009-03-11 21:09:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| Yeah but once you've got a little bit of coin, it's so much easier to have your OWN studio. | 2009-03-11 21:18:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Yeah but once you've got a little bit of coin, it's so much easier to have your OWN studio. Agreed! My dad has his own recording machine I use to record on. http://www.myspace.com/influenciazen My latest recording. ... Kind of old, really. But back to the point... I think I had used his old Fostex machine there. He has a better one now, so quality should be way better. In short, if you have some dough and enough patience to use one of these machines, get one. Either that or a good soundcard for your PC with GuitarTracks Pro or something (a studio program). PS: Yes, that was all me. >_> | 2009-03-12 01:22:00 Author: aer0blue  Posts: 1603 |
| haha pretty cool dude...does have a pretty large japanese feel to it lol | 2009-03-12 02:01:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Agreed! My dad has his own recording machine I use to record on. http://www.myspace.com/influenciazen My latest recording. ... Kind of old, really. But back to the point... I think I had used his old Fostex machine there. He has a better one now, so quality should be way better. In short, if you have some dough and enough patience to use one of these machines, get one. Either that or a good soundcard for your PC with GuitarTracks Pro or something (a studio program). PS: Yes, that was all me. >_> You play the drums, guitar, the banjo(it seems), the flute, and do those weird "hah" noises? Lmao... | 2009-03-12 06:49:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino  Posts: 5250 |
| You play the drums, guitar, the banjo(it seems), the flute, and do those weird "hah" noises? Lmao... Haha. Shamisen, not banjo! Emulated by a keyboard, though. Not the real thing. That japanese flute is called a Shakuhachi. Also from a keyboard. | 2009-03-12 12:34:00 Author: aer0blue Posts: 1603 |
| Oh what I wouldn't do for a real shamisen. I love them! The word "shakuhachi" means "1.8 feet", the size of the flute (shaku = foot; hachi = eight). Funny anecdote... wrapped in spoiler tags in case it's mildly inappropriate: When asked how to say the phrase "John blows goats" in japanese, my co-worker replied "shakuhachi wu fuku yagi". I guess since you blow into a flute... well... you catch my meaning | 2009-03-12 17:03:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| lol...ya i figured they were emulated sounds..still really cool though. I've never heard of a shamisen before | 2009-03-12 18:01:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| It's a japanese guitar, for lack of a better term. The plectrum look more like ice-scrapers for car windshields than picks. And they are 3-strings I believe. | 2009-03-12 18:26:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| 3rd in battle of teh bands, had a wall of death in slitehr, and got stopped part way through in too deep because the crowd were like, jumping around too much, so we started that song again, and someone got knocked out in a pit during it so we were awesome! it was god fun | 2009-03-14 00:06:00 Author: Unknown User |
| cool nice....thats pretty lame that you guys got stopped....what do you mean by wall of death..the crowd? | 2009-03-14 00:18:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| ya - split the crowd , restart the music, get them to all run at each other etc And yeah, we got stopped, but then we just played it again anyway | 2009-03-14 00:42:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Ok. I need help!??! Now my band has got like, a few gigs booked already, and i was gonna buy a new amp soon, i figured i may aswell buy one i can use for gigs. So can someone who knows tell me if this will work? A Marshall 100w head: http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=7424 with A Marshall MG 4x12 base cab: http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=7425 Anyone know if this is any good and worth it? cheers | 2009-03-16 21:15:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm sure it would be really good, I've heard good things about marshall. You don't really NEED a stack amp either you can always get a good combo amp w/ like two 12's or a tube amp is louder from what I understand...Combo amps are smaller so easier for lugging around | 2009-03-16 21:23:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I figured i may as well go for a stack, seeing as i am definitley going to invest in one sooner or later, and this seemed like a good, but also cheap(ish lol) way to start.... | 2009-03-16 22:19:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I've played though this head, and quite honestly, I don't like it. If you're thinking about going stack, first you need to decide on your budget. Let me know and I'll start making recommendations. No sense in spending $1000 to find out a year from now that you wish you bought different gear. Lots of people think Marshall is *the* stack to buy. I say it depends on your taste and the style of music you intend on playing. Marshalls are great for that classic rock tone, but for metal, I would almost assuredly pick something different. Most stacks are available as combo amps as well, FYI. If you intend on making your rig mobile, I'd HIGHLY consider going combo. A 4x12 cab weights 85-110 pounds alone. A tube-driven head weighs 40-60lbs on top of this. I went from owning a $600 1x12" combo amp to a $2500 head + $1100 cabinet to a $5000 rackmount amp (+ the same cabinet). Venturing into the world of stack amps is by no means inexpensive, unless you're buying CRAP. | 2009-03-16 22:27:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| From what I understand there really isn't much of a difference except for looks; I was deffinetly planning on going for a powerful combo amp myself. They are much much more mobile and can pack the same punch...my logical reasoning was why go for a stack then? | 2009-03-16 22:31:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I'll have about ?500 to spend, and the type of music my band plays and that i enjoy playing would be Guns N Roses and Velvet Revolver, and then maybe a bit of Metallica style stuff if we feel like it lol. but mostly it is CLassic Rock/ Hard rock | 2009-03-16 22:32:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Well, for one, you won't find a 4x12" combo. Then again, most people inaccurately assume they need a 4x12" cabinet to play in a band. For the most part, they aren't different. It's the same amp, bundled differently. Some of the subtle differences though lie in the signal chain. You can't split the signal of a combo amp between the power-amp and the speakers. This can be a big problem depending on your gear. A lot of FX units (including talk boxes) depend on you taking the signal from your amp head before it gets to the speakers. This is not the same as using the effects loop either, which splits the signal between the preamp and power amp. | 2009-03-16 22:35:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Any suggestions for what i could use? | 2009-03-16 22:36:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'll have about ?500 to spend, and the type of music my band plays and that i enjoy playing would be Guns N Roses and Velvet Revolver, and then maybe a bit of Metallica style stuff if we feel like it lol. but mostly it is CLassic Rock/ Hard rock What is your current gear? Would you consider buying used equipment? | 2009-03-16 22:36:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Currently i am just using a small vox valvetronix amp... it isn't great, though i was borrowing a marshall stack for the last couple of gigs, but the guy i was borrowing it off moved :/ and i would prefer to buy new stuff... but we'll see edit: Maybe somthing like this would be better from what you are saying? http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=7423 | 2009-03-16 22:37:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Ok, I'll do some digging and see what I can find. I'm pretty keen on used gear myself. You can save a LOT of money and get gear that is in excellent condition. I only paid a fraction for what my gear is worth, probably about HALF of what it cost new, and some of this stuff was hardly ever used before I bought it. EDIT: That's the combo version of the amp you posted above. For what you're doing, it would probably suffice. It should be loud enough. Usually music stores will let you test the equipment before you buy (or let you return it for full refund within a few days if it doesn't work out) EDIT #2: I'm really not digging the selection at Reidy's. Check back later and I'll post some links. Man, stuff is overpriced in the UK.... | 2009-03-16 22:40:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Ya i just found it if you think it will be loud enough for small gigs, then i will save a bit of money and go for that, and then buy some seymour duncan's for my LP cheers guys Edit: just looking at Reidys cos it is really close to my house, well my school.... and just to check, assuming i did end up going for one of those combo's, which one (i know it's only from looking, and i also know i am becoming annoying ) which of thses 2 would you suggest would be better?the one i posted above, or this: http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=4732 | 2009-03-16 22:44:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I"m prob going to get this one when I buy one http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-V-Tone-GMX212-2X60-Watt-Stereo-Guitar-Combo-102533791-i1145422.gc It's pretty cheap for the quality..the guy that recommended it , said it's pretty diverse and packs some punch | 2009-03-16 22:50:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| That's this one isn't it? :http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=17 that's a lot cheaper than the marshalls lol | 2009-03-16 22:53:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Oh god no, stay away from Behringer like the plague!!!! There's a reason why it's so cheap. Garbage components assembled in China. I do own Behringer gear, but I would NEVER own anything that touched my signal chain, that includes amps, cabinets, effects, and cables (if they make them). | 2009-03-16 22:57:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| LOL. but yeah, at the moment, one of those 2 marshall combos probably... though i don't know which one... :? lol | 2009-03-16 23:01:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Well, if it came down to those two, I'd suggest the combo because I presume that you're going to be carting it back and forth from your jamspace? There are other amps out there in the price range. I will look and get back to you. Right now I'm thinking Peavey or Fender might make something that would suit you. Mesa is out of the question; too expensive. Roland might also have something to offer. For the price, you are probably going to be looking at solidstate amps only (no tube amps). I'm thinking a 2x10" or 2x12" would probably work. The only tube amp I can think of is the Peavey Deltablues 210 - a very nice amp in this range, and is great for classic rock tone (though you won't want to play metal with it... not crunchy enough). Don't be fooled by the "blues" in it's name, its far more versatile. | 2009-03-16 23:05:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ah that makes sense...that's weird that guy praised it hard core that reccommended it to me... Maybe I will stick w/ this Ibanezz I was going to get. and also that reminds me I saw like a $60 Behringer starter amp...the cheapest amp i've seen...it's all starting to make sense!! | 2009-03-16 23:09:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| @Thegide - i meant out of the 2 Marshall combos: http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=4732 http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=7423 As far as i can see - one has 2 speakers and the other one just has more controls but only 1 speaker... i dunno lol | 2009-03-16 23:13:00 Author: Unknown User |
| i just learnt some a7x on drums lol... i hate tabs and reading music so i just do the obvious thing... listen to the music... | 2009-03-16 23:14:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| I don't play the drums...I'd like to. That's what I was originally going to pick up but I decided to go for guitar because of the space it takes up in conparison | 2009-03-16 23:33:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| @Thegide - i meant out of the 2 Marshall combos: http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=4732 http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=7423 As far as i can see - one has 2 speakers and the other one just has more controls but only 1 speaker... i dunno lol I always found that 1x12" wasn't loud enough for playing in a band. You don't want to be drowned out by drums, and you don't want to crank your amp so loud that you blow a speaker (I've done it!). Speakers are about $150 apiece. I don't think you need that extra stuff on the smaller one. You've still got reverb on the 2x12" combo - that's the only one you really need. You're better off buying BOSS stomp boxes for the other effects you need. | 2009-03-16 23:43:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| my bros buying himself a new kit soon and sound proofing his room so i get his old one xD i have been using his seeing as i dont have one... i plan on getting a kit which is something like this... 1 snare 4 toms ( 2 rack toms and 2 floor toms) 2 crash 2 ride 1 Hi-hat 2 bass drums... thasts gunna set me back like a grand... and if i want good cymbols then i just have to get jidjians which are so expensive... oh well | 2009-03-16 23:46:00 Author: Zommy Posts: 1232 |
| yeah, thanks for the help i just spoke to my dad's mate, turns out his guitarist has the marshall head and a 4x12a angled cab, so the same one i was looking at. So i am going into Reidys tomorrow to look at the combo, and then my mates guitarists house to look at the stack and see what i think of them. edit: i should also point out that the car i use to get to gigs and practice is a renault espace, so space isn't really a problem, so the stack wouldn't be a problem space wise. And also, the other guitarist is buying a stack, so i dunno... don't really want to be drowned out lol | 2009-03-16 23:47:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Don't think that just because you bought a 2x12" and your friend bought a 4x12" that you'll be drowned out. You still won't be cranking your amp... just up a bit more than his to even out the volume. The big thing to worry about is being drowned out by drums, not necessarily other guitars. "Looking" is all fine and dandy when it comes to gear, but really you've got to play the hell out of an amp before you buy it. Try other gear, don't just try one amp and buy it. You need to know that the amp sounds the way you want, not just "okay", so you need a basis for comparison. At your music shop, you can always ask for recommendations in your price range. Play them all. Spend a good 1-2 hours testing gear before making your choice. Cabinets also have a big impact on sound. There's a reason why a Behringer 4x12" cab sells for $500 and a Mesa Recto 4x12" cab sells for $1200. A Marshall 1960's cab is going to sound a lot different from a Mesa. Not necessarily worse, just different. | 2009-03-17 15:58:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| Ya...I was using like my 15w practice amp cranked when playing with drums and the drummer didn't know how to control himself and we were in a basement and he drowned me out pretty bad...but then I switched to some guys crate amp.. everyone has to learn how to play WITH eachother not over...I was guilty of that myself right away I would always turn my amp up a little louder than my friends | 2009-03-17 17:11:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I'm going into Reidys tomorrow.. couldn't go today. But i have been told by one of the teachers, who is like, an awesome guitarist and has like loads of amps, to buy a combo with 2 speakers, and preferably a valve or tube. Now i just need to find one >_< | 2009-03-17 17:56:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Some guy told me tube amps are louder I guess...And I was deff getting a combo it will be 10x easier to lug around | 2009-03-17 18:24:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| lol. i would need to convince my dad it is worth the extra money >_<... but i am looking at this now, which the guy in school mentioned, even though it is way more than i can really afford....http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=6639 | 2009-03-17 18:25:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm going into Reidys tomorrow.. couldn't go today. But i have been told by one of the teachers, who is like, an awesome guitarist and has like loads of amps, to buy a combo with 2 speakers, and preferably a valve or tube. Now i just need to find one >_< Are you dead set on owning Marshall? I'd really recommend trying other brands before you decide. Personally, I hate the sound of most marshalls, including the $2000 JCM heads. If I were to buy a Marshall, it would be a used JCM800 which hasn't been in production since the late 1980's. Tube amps are very nice indeed, but shame on your teacher for telling you that's what you should buy, especially when you're on a budget. Tube amps are easily 2-3 times more expensive than their solidstate counterparts, plus you have to replace the tubes periodically. Tubes are not cheap either. It would cost me $300 probably to re-tube my current amp. For someone on a 500-pound budget, I think solidstate is more in your price range. My ex-bandmate had a 120W Crate head (solidstate) that cost him about $450 and sounded pretty decent, paired with a Marshall 1960's cab. Some guy told me tube amps are louder I guess...And I was deff getting a combo it will be 10x easier to lug around Louder per watt, yes. I've seen 30W tube amps that are louder than 100W solidstate amps. | 2009-03-17 18:33:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| wow you have to replace the tubes? thats crazy.......of course the guitar salesman didn't tell me that when he was trying to sell me one. | 2009-03-17 18:35:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| wow you have to replace the tubes? thats crazy.......of course the guitar salesman didn't tell me that when he was trying to sell me one. Well, over time tubes lose their punch, and need to be replaced. Cost to replace depends on the number and type of tubes in your amp. Mine costs a lot because of this: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2332/1835072859_eeedc8bb22.jpg You can also blow tubes, just like a fuse, in which case, it will have to be replaced. | 2009-03-17 18:59:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| @ thegide - i really like Marshalls tone etc. i love the way they sound... so i guess i am dead set on one lol | 2009-03-17 19:15:00 Author: Unknown User |
| wow dude...that looks like theres prob a lot of tubes back there lol.... how many watts does that thing have? that looks like a serious set up...i remember your first pics. I need to go to a guitar store and mess around with different amps to get a sound I want...I just started practing sweeping pretty hard core last saturday; I've gotten a lot better since then. Pretty much at just having my fingers on it when I'm sweeping instead of keeping them there otherwise your pretty much just strumming lol. My guitar instructor has me practing this pattern where I have my fourth finger on like the.. D string on the 7th fret. Then third finger on the G string on the 6th fret and second finger on the B string on the 5th fret and first finger on the E string on the 4th fret. and then at the end I do a pull off on the E string from the 7th fret i think back to the 4th and go back up | 2009-03-17 19:27:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| 90 watts per channel... and it's a stereo amp, so if I hooked up two cabinets that could be 180 watts output. previously, I owned a Mesa triple rectifier head, which was 150W. | 2009-03-17 19:59:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| lol. i would need to convince my dad it is worth the extra money >_<... but i am looking at this now, which the guy in school mentioned, even though it is way more than i can really afford....http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=6639 To quote myself, because i am that cool, if the amp in that post i made up there ^^ would be loud enough to be heard over everything else, then i think i will almost certaintly get that one... if i can scrounge the money :/lol. I'll try it tomorrow for a bit Also, is it possible to plug a single cab into one of those combo's? because that would be useful.... | 2009-03-17 20:00:00 Author: Unknown User |
| To quote myself, because i am that cool, if the amp in that post i made up there ^^ would be loud enough to be heard over everything else, then i think i will almost certaintly get that one... if i can scrounge the money :/lol. I'll try it tomorrow for a bit A 50W tube amp is plenty loud, enough to be heard in a band without effort. Although, I guarantee mine is louder  I'm still confused as to how you are deciding you want this amp without ever having PLAYED it? Also, is it possible to plug a single cab into one of those combo's? because that would be useful.... You can add on cabinets to combos, yes. | 2009-03-17 20:02:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| wow you can probably play that thing at some pretty big venues I bet....that must get LOUD | 2009-03-17 20:14:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| A 50W tube amp is plenty loud, enough to be heard in a band without effort. Although, I guarantee mine is louder I'm still confused as to how you are deciding you want this amp without ever having PLAYED it? You can add on cabinets to combos, yes. i say i will probably get that one, i did mean after i have played it tomorrow, as i called to check they had one in store and they do, and if i play it and like it as much as the other Marshalls i have played at various places, THEN i will get it lol. i probably should have worded it differently before | 2009-03-17 21:09:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Just been shown this, but i'm not gonna try and track one down if it won't be loud enough: http://www.blackstaramps.co.uk/products/ht-5/ht-5s.html ?400, mini-stack, is a valve amp | 2009-03-17 22:55:00 Author: Unknown User |
| If you read carefully, you'll notice how it says it's a PRACTICE amp. 5W is not going to be enough for jamming, man. | 2009-03-17 23:16:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| ahh yes lol. II don't know. I may just go wit a slid state amp to keep the price down, as long as i can use them for gigs (obviously they aren't big gigs, so it shouldn't be a problem) as that way i can grab some pickups at the same time. So i don't know... i need a job lol... But i am going to look at all the amps i can in Reidys in my price range, though it will be on friday now >_< So i am going to look mainly at the JVM combo that i posted earlier (the ?850 one :/) the other ones that i have mentioned and then that solid state 2x12 Marshall combo (the 100w combo) | 2009-03-17 23:32:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I had that MG100DFX combo once, it's not bad but I think Vox make better solid state amps in the same price range... I just have to reinforce what's been said that you should go and try everything you can in your price range. Solid state amps have the advantage of being able to take a lot of stress and punishment, though of course even the most sophisticated digital circuit won't replicate the saturation of cranked tubes. (IMO anyway, I'm a prude) | 2009-03-18 04:04:00 Author: Foofles  Posts: 2278 |
| I had that MG100DFX combo once, it's not bad but I think Vox make better solid state amps in the same price range... I just have to reinforce what's been said that you should go and try everything you can in your price range. Solid state amps have the advantage of being able to take a lot of stress and punishment, though of course even the most sophisticated digital circuit won't replicate the saturation of cranked tubes. (IMO anyway, I'm a prude) Yeah, i have a vox valvetronix 15w at the moment. But i never really though about just getting a bigger one, so maybe i will have a look. | 2009-03-18 08:16:00 Author: Unknown User |
| My stats, a little late, but better now then never: got a samich acoustic electric, 1988 00-15 grand concert mahogany Martin acoustic, RG270 ibenez electric, some cheap johnson 5 string bass, a '97 Japanese Fender P-bass Lyte series, and a '94 electric blue california signature addition fender strat (american). Oh and a Yamaha custom tenor sax, which doesn't count but it sits in one of my guitar stands so I'm staring at it right now and so I have to mention it... duh! | 2009-03-19 06:12:00 Author: LuckyShot  Posts: 713 |
| wow dude those sound like some mean axes......My Yamaha RGX is made from maghondy too. I love my guitar; I want to get one thats more "metal" looking though. But I need a new amp first....I'm kind of torn between getting a new amp and a guitar rig set up for my new laptop...I'm going to get the rig set up first; I want to record my own stuff. I have a pretty big driving force to be a lot better so I play at least an hour a day or more (last night I played like 3 hours) But I have to practice the major scale / diminished scale / pentatonic (in two different patterns) and now i'm doing sweep picking...i have a lot to practice. I don't really even practice songs that much anymore but I can play them fine | 2009-03-19 17:12:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Good collection there, LuckyShot. Hammie, that stuff is good and reallty important but be careful of getting "scaleitis"... ie, practice in the way that you want to be playing, and when you learn new scales and arpeggios try to apply them directly towards improvising, get a real feel for them... really play the hell out of them and understand their underlying modes. Just slap on a rhythm track and rock out with it! | 2009-03-19 18:50:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Ya I've pretty much just been running through them as scales....excpet for the triplet pentatonic descending pattern starting on the high 'e' ....because if you play that really fast it sounds kewl! I was thinking if just play them as normal scales and then get them down so I can play them really fast and THEN start working on improvin...But I did a lot of improving w/ the pentatonic ...I need to practice more improvin w/ the others. It's a lot more fun improvising then just running scales anyway lol | 2009-03-19 19:00:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Improvings better with a rythem guitar/bass and a drum loop from a pc imo. | 2009-03-19 19:03:00 Author: HalfaSack Posts: 214 |
| ya it is a lot better having the whole "simulated band". I need to get that guitar rigz!! | 2009-03-19 19:17:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| ya it is a lot better having the whole "simulated band". I need to get that guitar rigz!! There's a cool program called Band in a Box I suggest you check out... you just punch in a chord progression, pick a style, and instant backing track! Don't worry too much about speed, that'll come naturally pretty quickly if you just build up with a click. Just try to articulate well, the pentatonic scale is great since it lends well to cool bend and legato licks. A nice, clear, articulated bend will always sound better than shredding a scale run, always! | 2009-03-19 19:40:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| I need to re-start learning scales... but i don't know where to start >_< i started ages ago, then got sidetracked and now i have no idea where to begin lol | 2009-03-19 19:56:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I started on songs and now am dead focused on scales because i want to be an uber shredder lol...but your right foofles I love the soulful feel of good bends and slow notes than just pure shredding... And maybe I am too worried about trying to force speed upon myself; so you think maybe just play w/ a drum track or something and just improv w/ the scales? | 2009-03-19 20:01:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Ham work on you airtap imo. I can't get enough of this song, contemplating buying the record. YouTube - Andy McKee - Guitar - Drifting - www.candyrat.com | 2009-03-19 20:22:00 Author: HalfaSack Posts: 214 |
| I need to re-start learning scales... but i don't know where to start >_< i started ages ago, then got sidetracked and now i have no idea where to begin lol Plenty of good resources online, like cyberfret.com... just take music theory one bite at a time, try to cram too much and you'll just end up forgetting everything. I started on songs and now am dead focused on scales because i want to be an uber shredder lol...but your right foofles I love the soulful feel of good bends and slow notes than just pure shredding... And maybe I am too worried about trying to force speed upon myself; so you think maybe just play w/ a drum track or something and just improv w/ the scales? Yeah, don't worry about speed too much... I find a big problem with aspiring metal guitarists nowadays is they just want to play really fast, but forsake rhythm and articulation. If you just practice scale runs all day, you'll probably end up soloing all in 16th note patterns or something, which is a good effect but it can wear thin very quickly; super fast playing is only interesting for about 5 seconds. So, yeah, just try to improve with the scales over a track, get a feel for how the notes react. Just try to stress the rhythm, and don't be afraid to NOT play; you don't have to just constantly spit out notes. It's like talking, take time to breathe now and then. When you start just slowly build up, accentuatiing a rhythmic focus, don't just shred up and down the scale right away. edit - oh and half, he came here a week or so ago, but I couldn't choose him over seeing my friend for his birthday. Too bad... :o | 2009-03-19 21:44:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Ya the weird thing is I actually don't really like just pure shredding as much as I do souly solo's but I just want to be able to shred lol... I've been doing that a lot too just messing around seeing what notes / patterns go good nothing. One of my favorite solo'ist is Slash (ex. November Rain) I love how he's got the nice elongated notes but can still play fast and make it sound good. But i agree just pure non stop shredding is cool for like 5 seconds but loses its luster. I have some drum loops; I first started improvising just doing the pentatonic scale and had some fun; I think I need to start mixing it up a little bit. IDK I just really really want to be able to shred like the big boys so thats why i've been pusing myself with getting faster @ the scales and learning how to sweep pick. but before when I first started I like didn't even know the concept of rythem lol; Now my rythem is much much much better. After I had a guy kind of help me out; and he made me a CD w/ drum loops. Now it's weird I can hear songs and stuff almost different now that I have rythem down a lot better. When I played Santeria w/ my friend (halfasack). I couldn't jump in while he's playing. Now I can hear it perfectly when to jump in, idk its weird. (I'm sure I can still be a lot better w/ my rythem I know i've just gotten dramatically better.) | 2009-03-19 22:07:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Yeah I know what you mean. Sweep picking is a really cool technique, but a big part of its cool sound comes from having good distinction in the notes, making it clean. As a pure practice mechanism, running scales is a good workout. Try to mix it up, stagger around the scales, put some string skipping into it. It's just... yeah, when you want to solo, even when you do play really fast, you generally don't want to just go straight up and down all the time. Rhythm is the most important thing for a guitar player, even when you're just practicing scales try to accentuate the rhythm. Fast or slow, your playing should be within rhythmic context... even if you mess up live, which everyone does at some point, you just keep on going in rhythm and it'll be fine. | 2009-03-19 22:30:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Ya...most the time people probably won't even notice when you mess up as long as you keep going and don't stop. Ya I've been getting sweeping down pretty good to where I just have my fingers down for the exact second I hit the note and no longer so you get good distinction. The first excercise my teacher taught me I keept my fingers down; but now I"ve progressed quite a bit for the few days or so I've been at it again. When I try going fast and I start getting sloppy and stuff I just start over; but I think I need to start hitting up w/ the drum tracks again. I know one thing my teacher critizies Kirk Hamet for is he almost always does that triplet pentatonic pattern in his solos and he does it from beginning to end every time. It sounds cool fast but still...I've been practicing that pattern. And I do some string skipping not too much, but my instructor showed me some technics w/ that and some leggato too | 2009-03-19 22:38:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| any improv i do for solos and stuff seems really boring and repetetive - i only use the blues scale and one of the pentatonic shapes, but still >_< | 2009-03-19 22:56:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Yeah, it's not good to use the same exact patterns all the time. Drum / backing tracks always help, it gives you a groove. Yeah maidenfan, you might want to try extending your vocabulary a bit, or even just try adding some more tensions to the patterns you already know; try playing tones out of the scales and chords, try to flair it up a bit. Try different keys, modes... different progressions. Try shifting your accents to different points in time.... like say going from *1* 2 *3* 4 *1* 2 *3* 4 *1* 2 *3* 4 to 1 *2* 3 *4* 1 *2* 3 *4* 1 *2* 3 *4* .. .etc.... it's subtle things that add up to a big difference. | 2009-03-19 22:59:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| I know nothing about the theory though lol.... tones, modes etc... wtf lol | 2009-03-19 23:04:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I know nothing about the theory though lol.... tones, modes etc... wtf lol ok well... lol A scale is essentially a repeating sequence of ascending notes... like C D E F G A B would be the C major scale, and you'd just go to C and repeat, in theory, endlessly. The mode is dependant on what interval of the scale you start (/stop) on. If you experiment here you'll find the same notes will sound totally different when you play them starting (/stopping) from a different note. When I say tone, I just mean note, sound, etc. If you are learning anything about scales, you should not only know the fingering, but more importantly the interval value of each note in the pattern. and by interval, I just mean number in the sequence. | 2009-03-19 23:10:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Here's an original song of mine - called "Run Away"... I have no idea what if any techniques I'm using... I just like to jam out with a half chorded half melodic all at the same time style, minor pentatonic/blues scale in this particular song. YouTube - Run Away | 2009-03-19 23:17:00 Author: LuckyShot Posts: 713 |
| I couldn't listen to it very loud cause I'm at work but sounds really good dude. That's pretty cool. Thats something I could jam out to | 2009-03-19 23:31:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Cool stuff, LS I might put something up of me on youtube if I ever find the time. | 2009-03-19 23:33:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| did you take the link down? i dont see it... | 2009-03-19 23:48:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| That's weird I still see the vid. embedded | 2009-03-19 23:55:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Yeah I can see it too. Anways, I just recently started to play my guitar ALOT more, like for example, I think I played around with my guitar for about 5 hours last night. Just practicing random stuff, trying to learn some songs. I'm trying to learn this song right now, it's a bit too rich for my blood, meaning that it's way tooo fast for me, but I've learned the basic melody for it, and the fact that you have to palm mute most of it until the last 5 notes or so. But what I really don't get is how to do the chorus in this song, it just sounds sooo ugly... I have to strum these three strings at the same time and when I do it's just soo retarded, it sounds nothing like the song itself. Here are the tabs, created myself, just for the chorus part, you'll understand which part I'm talking about... (It's the "Let's start a riot.... A riot!" Or something like that lmao... .................................................. .......................PM-------------| |---------------|--------------|---------------|--------------------|| |---------------|--------------|---------------|--------------------|| |---------------|--------------|---------------|--------------------|| |-0--3-0-8--7--|-0--3-0-8--7--|-0--3-0-8--7--|-5-5-5-8-7-5-7-5---|| |-0--3-0-8--7--|-0--3-0-8--7--|-0--3-0-8--7--|-5-5-5-----------8--|| |-0--3-0-8--7--|-0--3-0-8--7--|-0--3-0-8--7--|-5-5-5--------------|| YouTube - Three Days Grace - Riot Yeah I know how the whole melody of this song, which is pretty much the same thing except when it hits the breakdown, it just goes up the fretboard. Anyways, you guys are way more experienced then me, you guys have any pointers? Anything at all? Not necessary stuff like "Practice daily, and a lot." What I mean is pointers for how to play a mean *** lead guitar, or how scales and stuff work. All I know is that the notes will always be in this order, E F G A B C D, and it always depends on where you start. So yeah, tips? Pointers? How the heck do you play that tab I placed up there? | 2009-03-20 00:38:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| I know what you mean about it sounding ugly..It used to happen to me a lot...The biggest thing I can say is maybe practice it as slowly as possible to make it sound good. Because from what your tabs indicate you are just baring the three lowest strings. It must be in drop D right? And you don't HAVE to do the third string. It will probably pretty much sound the same with just E and A. The main thing is just make sure your only hitting the strings you want to | 2009-03-20 00:44:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I know what you mean about it sounding ugly..It used to happen to me a lot...The biggest thing I can say is maybe practice it as slowly as possible to make it sound good. Because from what your tabs indicate you are just baring the three lowest strings. It must be in drop D right? And you don't HAVE to do the third string. It will probably pretty much sound the same with just E and A It's in drop C, which reminds me. Wtf does that mean? Do I have to do something to make it in the "Drop C" tuning? | 2009-03-20 00:45:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Yeah you have to drop the low E string two full steps to C... which I hate because it usually sounds like poo... unless you're John Mayer playing neon, some how his string doesn't flop around all loose on C. | 2009-03-20 00:50:00 Author: LuckyShot Posts: 713 |
| I think that means its tuned half-a step and then "dropped D". And half-a-step means that pretty much how you tune it makes it like everything is one fret down. So for example you could hold down the first fret on each string and tune it standard and you would be at half a step. If you hold it on the 2nd fret and tune it standard you are a whole step. And drop D means your in standard tuning and just tune your low e string to D#. So remember those power chords I taught you? If your in drop D you can pretty much do a power chord just hold down the E and A string of a single fret and thats your power chord but it sounds really beefy and "metal" | 2009-03-20 00:51:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Drop D is dropping the low E string a full step to D, not D#... that would just be half a step, and be very hard to play anything that would sound good. | 2009-03-20 00:52:00 Author: LuckyShot Posts: 713 |
| Too bad it's in Drop C... So I just tune my low E to a C? What the heck... | 2009-03-20 00:52:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| no turn low E to a D.....and it will sound close enough to it so you don't have to go to C. And then like I said it makes the power chords pretty much holding down the E and A string of the same fret like how they do open 3 open 8 or w/e | 2009-03-20 00:53:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Oh one more thing to add, how does it go again? It's like E-F--G--A--B--C-D-- What I mean is, E to F and C to D is a half step, the rest is a full step. Am I saying that right or wrong? | 2009-03-20 00:55:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Are you talking about just note order , or standard tuning order? | 2009-03-20 00:57:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| uh.. whoa, even I'm confused by what's going on in the last few posts. Ok, whale - A -> B Whole step B -> C Half Step C -> D Whole Step D -> E Whole Step E -> F Half Step F -> G Whole Step G -> A Whole step. Drop D tuning is identical to standard E except yes the low E is tuned down a whole step to D. Drop C is when you take every string down a whole step from Drop D tuning. if your guitar isn't locking then it's really easy to tune to D... you could also just omit the 6th string from there, as the interval between the 5th and 4th strings are the same as in Drop C... course it wouldn't sound as beefy sounding. I like to ring out both the 4th string and 6th string, then tune down the 6th until it sounds like the 4th... it can also sound pretty cool doing that! | 2009-03-20 00:57:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| If it's C tuning, then ALL the strings should be lowered like it says here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_tuning_(guitar) Drop C is just the E string like tuning for Neon - like guitar 1 here: http://www.guitaretab.com/j/john-mayer/25422.html Oh, I got what you're saying, just Drop D... dropped again - yeah that would sound good. Never seen it personally. | 2009-03-20 00:59:00 Author: LuckyShot Posts: 713 |
| I think thats how Slipknot and some other really metal bands do it like that. They get REALLY thick strings to compensate | 2009-03-20 01:02:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I think thats how Slipknot and some other really metal bands do it like that. They get REALLY thick strings to compensate Yeah, you need to have thick strings to go drop C and beyond and have your guitar setup accordingly... so if you regularly play in E Standard, don't try going back and forth between this and really low tunings or risk your guitar's health... | 2009-03-20 01:04:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| oh wow...Ya I bet some people have guitars just set w/ Drop C | 2009-03-20 01:06:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| oh wow...Ya I bet some people have guitars just set w/ Drop C Yeah, it's the best way especially for performers. | 2009-03-20 01:13:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| uh.. whoa, even I'm confused by what's going on in the last few posts. Ok, whale - A -> B Whole step B -> C Half Step C -> D Whole Step D -> E Whole Step E -> F Half Step F -> G Whole Step G -> A Whole step. Drop D tuning is identical to standard E except yes the low E is tuned down a whole step to D. Drop C is when you take every string down a whole step from Drop D tuning. if your guitar isn't locking then it's really easy to tune to D... you could also just omit the 6th string from there, as the interval between the 5th and 4th strings are the same as in Drop C... course it wouldn't sound as beefy sounding. I like to ring out both the 4th string and 6th string, then tune down the 6th until it sounds like the 4th... it can also sound pretty cool doing that! Yeah that's what I meant. I just messed up saying C -> D is a half note, when it's actually B -> C. Thanks for clarifying. Hmm, you guys are talking about risking my guitars health, lol maybe I'll just leave that part as how it is, ugly. And yeah, I'm thinking about getting a new guitar, my current guitar was bought a year ago, and it's strictly designed for beginners. It's also starting to break on me... The strap keeps falling out, I don't know how but the screw came out of the guitar (yes the guitar itself) so I had to find a longer, thicker nail and screw it in the guitar, God knows how long that will last me. And the bottom of the guitar, were the guitar's plug goes in is also starting to become very loose. What do you guys recommend? I wouldn't call myself intermediate, but I know my chords very well, and I'm really good at rhythm guitar. Nothing about 400 dollars. Lol... They also told me that they couldn't install a whammy bar on my guitar. !!!! | 2009-03-20 01:15:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Yeah that's what I meant. I just messed up saying C -> D is a half note, when it's actually B -> C. Thanks for clarifying. Hmm, you guys are talking about risking my guitars health, lol maybe I'll just leave that part as how it is, ugly. And yeah, I'm thinking about getting a new guitar, my current guitar was bought a year ago, and it's strictly designed for beginners. It's also starting to break on me... The strap keeps falling out, I don't know how but the screw came out of the guitar (yes the guitar itself) so I had to find a longer, thicker nail and screw it in the guitar, God knows how long that will last me. And the bottom of the guitar, were the guitar's plug goes in is also starting to become very loose. What do you guys recommend? I wouldn't call myself intermediate, but I know my chords very well, and I'm really good at rhythm guitar. Nothing about 400 dollars. Lol... Don't worry too much about the jack getting loose, I see that even on some higher end models... just tighten the nut. $400 is your limit or is too much? What kind of guitar do you have now, what body / neck style do you like? | 2009-03-20 01:23:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Hmm Mine was about $350-400 and it's an excellent guitar... But what I would reccommend is maybe going to musicians friend or guitarcenter .com and searching by price range for any guitar and reading reviews....Becasue you know what's in your price range and that way you may find a gem in your price range who knows. And if you find something you like either order it, or go to your local guitar center and look around too. But I don't have a direct guitar to reccomend for you | 2009-03-20 01:24:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Don't worry too much about the jack getting loose, I see that even on some higher end models... just tighten the nut. $400 is your limit or is too much? What kind of guitar do you have now, what body / neck style do you like? No idea what you mean by what body and neck style, and 400 is my limit. It'll be after the concert I'm having for my church. There's going to be like 400 people, 9 songs I have to learn. So nervous... But yeah, 400 is my limit. Care to explain what you mean neck style and body? As for my guitar, I just went on the site, I can't find the model, but if you want I'll take a picture of the guitar. It's an Ibanez, and instead of the dots on the fret, it has some sort of weird lightning bolts. | 2009-03-20 01:26:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| And ya , you need a through body guitar to be able to have a whammy bar. Yours is probably a floating bridge. Also from the sounds of it I wouldn't invest one in yours. And if your actions kind of high on it; I woudl reccomend buying a new one before your concert if you can afford it. It will probably be easier for you to play and maybe give you some more confidence | 2009-03-20 01:33:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| And ya , you need a through body guitar to be able to have a whammy bar. Yours is probably a floating bridge. Also from the sounds of it I wouldn't invest one in yours. And if your actions kind of high on it; I woudl reccomend buying a new one before your concert if you can afford it. It will probably be easier for you to play and maybe give you some more confidence I'm confused about what you meant, I've bolded the confusion. | 2009-03-20 01:38:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| I meant adding a whammy bar to your current one, wouldn't be worth it. But by action being low , that means the strings will be lower to the fret board. Therefore making it much eaiser to play. Mine is REALLY low, so it makes it 10x easier than a really low quality guitar | 2009-03-20 01:43:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I meant adding a whammy bar to your current one, wouldn't be worth it. But by action being low , that means the strings will be lower to the fret board. Therefore making it much eaiser to play. Mine is REALLY low, so it makes it 10x easier than a really low quality guitar What you mean is if I had a whammy, my strings would be closer to the fret board, making it easier. But it costs to much to have them install a whammy bar(which I kind of figured out when the guy at guitar center told us it would be wiser just to buy one that had one on it.) | 2009-03-20 01:48:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| no no no...grr lol. Some serious line crossed. It looked like you were thinking about putting a whammy bar on your guitar. I said I woudln't do it on your current one. That's it. The action thing I mean, I kind of assumed your current action may not be that low. That being said , I meant if you get a new (better) gutair the action should be lower on it making it easier for you to play. (it makes a HUUUGE difference.) | 2009-03-20 01:53:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Well it definately does cost a lot to add a whammy on it, they said something about having to take the whole thing out and inserting blah blah blah e=mc2 and all that gibberish, which would make it cost more than just buying like a 400 dollar guitar. But anyways, I know this sounds like a noob question. Wtf is an action? | 2009-03-20 01:55:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Hamsalad... what? First of all, tremolo systems are absolutely not confined to string-through guitars and almost all of them are "floating" bridges... Second of all, action refers to the height of the strings relative to the fingerboard... you don't need to get a brand-new guitar just to get a different action, just adjust the action, or take it somewhere that can... a good setup can do wonders for a guitar. | 2009-03-20 01:57:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| it just means how close the strings are to your fret board... It can be effected if your guitar has a bend (which can be fixed usually by the trust rod) Or by the bridge....how low the bridge is in comparison to your fret board... good guitars will have a really low action, meaning the strings are really low to the fret board. letting you play with ease. IDK my guitar instructor told me it's a pain in the but to get a whammy bar on a floating bridge; and they are usually on like the through body style. Infact I think he told me I can't get one on my floating. And for the second part that's why I said those two things up there. Because you can adjust the bridge. You just don't want to make it too low | 2009-03-20 01:59:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I don't know, I just seem to have so much trouble playing my own guitar, when I can pick up my friends and do so much more. My guitar strings are soooo thick, it's almost like playing a bass ( slight overexaggeration, but you get the idea ) even this one guy that I play with, he's about 28 or so, has been playing for almost 10 years, says that his hands hurt when he plays with my guitar. I just think it's time for a new guitar, but I'm so lacking in the guitar department, that I have no idea what to look for. | 2009-03-20 02:00:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| The whole point of a floating bridge is to facilitate a tremolo system... otherwise it doesn't make sense, and the bridge would be fixed rather than floating on springs. Maybe your strings are just old. | 2009-03-20 02:08:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Are you talking about my strings? I don't think they're old, like, 4 months old maybe... | 2009-03-20 02:09:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Are you talking about my strings? I don't think they're old, like, 4 months old maybe... Ah, well do you remember what "gauge" they are? You might want to stick to "9s". It's not too hard to get thinner strings and lower the action... well, depending on your bridge anyway. Also keep in mind you don't have to press super hard on them to ring a tone out. | 2009-03-20 02:16:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| I rarely ever play lead, I only have a few solo's and I quickly switch to rhythm after, the fact is that I do have to kind of press hard to get the right noise. And I only play bar chords, meaning I go from an F Major(Which is at the 1st fret) all the way down to a C Major ( I believe it's at the 9th fret? ) And I have to do it pretty fast. I'm constantly moving up and down my fretboard, using only bar chords, simply because you can do sooo much more styles with it. But yeah, I don't know, maybe I'll get them to lower my action, but my bridge is very weird... I'm afraid it'll break it. | 2009-03-20 02:32:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| I rarely ever play lead, I only have a few solo's and I quickly switch to rhythm after, the fact is that I do have to kind of press hard to get the right noise. And I only play bar chords, meaning I go from an F Major(Which is at the 1st fret) all the way down to a C Major ( I believe it's at the 9th fret? ) And I have to do it pretty fast. I'm constantly moving up and down my fretboard, using only bar chords, simply because you can do sooo much more styles with it. But yeah, I don't know, maybe I'll get them to lower my action, but my bridge is very weird... I'm afraid it'll break it. What's weird about your bridge? That doesn't make any sense, it's pretty easy to go from F -> C in open position. It's great you know the barre chord shapes, but part of being a good musician is efficiency at the given moment. | 2009-03-20 02:59:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| We'll with open chords, you can't mute, and the rhythm I'm using for the song I'm playing for the concert is pretty "latin" oriented, so I strum,mute,strum,mute,strum,mute. It's confusing to explain, but I have to barre it, it's not hard or anything. After my second day practicing it, I've got it. Yeah I know I can basically just do a F and C at the same spot, but I'd like to barre the C. | 2009-03-20 03:02:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| You can if you just touch the strings with the left hand... but whatever you're comfortable with! | 2009-03-20 03:10:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| The whole point of a floating bridge is to facilitate a tremolo system... otherwise it doesn't make sense, and the bridge would be fixed rather than floating on springs. Maybe your strings are just old. I thought a floating bridge was the one I had. That just resets on these two small peg things. And call fall off when I take my strings off. I thought that the spring system was something | 2009-03-20 03:21:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| So, any recommendations? Or if you don't know what to recommend, what should I look for in a new guitar? | 2009-03-20 03:26:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Looks are a big thing imo; not bigger than quality but very important. Get some thing that feels good for what kind of music you want to play. Mine looks pretty diverse but I want a "metal" guitar too. But aside from that I would really recommend browsing guitar center's website and searching by price range and just maybe go by looks first and open them up and read the reviews. You really just want something that looks good to you and plays very easily; and that has good overall reviews imo | 2009-03-20 03:30:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Well, when I said "Body and neck type" I mean like... do you like the strat shape? The les paul shape? What's comfy for you? Flying Vs? And as far as neck, some necks are flatter, some are more round, some feel wider, some feel thinner... etc... it's good to experiment with everything you can find in a store. If you aim towards Floyd Rose style tem guitars, you might end up with a pain in the *** everytime you want to tune or change strings, so you might want to look into guitars with a fixed bridge or less frustrating trem systems. What kind of amplifier do you have? | 2009-03-20 03:38:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| It's a LINE 6. Umm, some Spider type amp or something like that. Here it is. http://www.line6.com/spideriii75/ I just recently bought this pedal with it. http://www.line6.com/floorpodplus/ And Umm, I really don't know what type of shapes I like, I don't even know how to tell them apart Lol. | 2009-03-20 03:39:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Cool stuff... I remember that spider line being really popular before. Well, how about this... at that price range I think your main concern is comfort... beyond that, you could always have a shop install aftermarket pickups to bring it up another notch when you get better, etc. What guitar do you play on now? The first thing that comes to my mind is Ibanez, but it really depends on what you like... things aren't too great at that price bracket. | 2009-03-20 03:50:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| I play an Ibanez, I don't know the model, but it has the lightning bolt looking things on the fretboard, I'll check out some guitars, later if you don't have any recommendations, and if you do well... Thanks! | 2009-03-20 04:16:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| I thought I'd run this by you guys, see what you guys think about it. http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-RG350DX-Electric-Guitar-519415-i1395598.gc | 2009-03-20 06:42:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| wow dude i almost wish I knew about that thing before I bought mine lol. It looks beastly, and you can't argue with those reviews a perfect 5 from everyone. If you wanted to be safe you could check musiciansfriend's revies too. But I would suggest going to guitar center next time you were going by there and trying it out; and if it plays good I would buy it unless you come across something better for the price but that looks like its a really nice guitar. Maybeh get it in black though so it doesn't stain? it would prob take a long time for that to change color though I hope. I'm sure you don't smoke? | 2009-03-20 07:19:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| I know many people who've had that guitar at some point... it's a good guitar for the price. Just keep in mind the floyd-ish bridge might take some getting used to in restringing and tuning, but you'll get the hang of it eventually. | 2009-03-20 07:23:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| I think thats what mine is...a floyd bridge...It just sits on top of these pegs. And I remember my first time tuning it, it didn't fall off. But my second time it did and I thought it broke or something and I was freaking out lol It's just held on by the string pressure | 2009-03-20 07:25:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| wow dude i almost wish I knew about that thing before I bought mine lol. It looks beastly, and you can't argue with those reviews a perfect 5 from everyone. If you wanted to be safe you could check musiciansfriend's revies too. But I would suggest going to guitar center next time you were going by there and trying it out; and if it plays good I would buy it unless you come across something better for the price but that looks like its a really nice guitar. Maybeh get it in black though so it doesn't stain? it would prob take a long time for that to change color though I hope. I'm sure you don't smoke? Yeah I don't smoke, and I keep my guitars in good condition, in my room on a guitar stand. It definately looks like a good guitar. I'm pretty sure I'll get it, I'll read up on it some more, then test it out at guitar center or something. It seems like a bargain for the price though. Yeah I have no idea what you guys are talking about tuning it, but I guess I'll find out eh? | 2009-03-20 07:30:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| The RG series Ibanez guitars are excellent. They pretty much come in all "levels" of quality to match any price point. I'm sure I've picked one of these up in a guitar store before... for $400 it's a decent guitar. You won't find many other guitars at this price range with the options that this one has... floating bridge, 24 frets, and dual humbucking pickups. However, are these features you need or even want? Another line to check out is the ESP Ltd. MH series: http://espguitars.com/guitars_mh.html Like the RG series, they come in all different levels of build quality and features so they can meet any budget. Typically the cost of a guitar is dependent on a few things. Frills (largely visual), type of wood, quality of pickups and features are the main components. High end guitars are also hand-built, while low-mid end guitars (<$1000) are usually machine built and assembled by hand in countries where labor is cheap (i.e. china, korea). More expensive guitars tend to last longer, stay in tune better, have better tone, and are generally more playable. $400 is about the minimum I would recommend spending on any electric (anything less, and I'd say you're wasting your money). For a decent guitar, you're looking around $700-1000. What matters most in a guitar is its playability, not looks, but there's no sense buying a guitar you don't enjoy looking at. When I go guitar shopping I assess guitars based on sound, features, and how easy it is to play. Sound: - tone. largely determined by the pickups. most important aspect of guitar buying. - what kind of pickups does it have? for melodic (solo) playing, I'm a big fan of having a humbucker for the neck pickup. single coil pickups sound like tin cans. - active pickups or passive? active pickups are battery-powered and can sound loads better than passives, but not always. for me, I like DiMarzio and EMG pickups that are "hot" (very sensitive). I can't stand seymour duncans. - sustain. how long does it hold a fretted note? Features: - number of frets? for me, it's got to be 24. if you're not much into playing solos, you may not need more than 21 or 22. 22 is standard on many brands, like gibson, fender, and some ibanez's. - floating bridge (floyd rose) or fixed bridge? do you want to use a whammy bar or no? there are more guitar options for you if you don't need a whammy, plus it's a whole lot easier to change strings and tune your guitar when you have a fixed bridge. Playability - simply put, when you play the guitar, do you sound better or worse than you normally do? how easy is it to play? can you shred like you do on other guitars or do you feel completely clumsy on it? A guitar's SETUP (done by a tech) has a lot to do with this, but I always assess playability off the rack. Things like the type of finish on the neck can make a guitar play fast or slow. Size of frets (regular, jumbo) can make it easier or harder to play certain things. Diameter and scale (length) of the neck can also be important. How easy is it to do pinch harmonics? Sweep arpeggios? etc. | 2009-03-20 15:57:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465 |
| I wish I did a little more research before I got my guitar but it plays really well for the price. I spent like $350 after a discount I think they were normally like $400. My neck is pretty beefy on it, it kind of threw me off right away but I'm so used to it now. The action is very nice and low; it plays really fast. I think my pick ups are dual humbuckers. I saw the lead guitarist for Three Day's Grace uses it so it can't be too bad; he prob has custom pick ups i'm sure IDK. But just to verify what bridge is what.... I thought my bridge was a floating briding but from what foofles said I don't think it is. My bridge sits on top of these two small pegs that I can adjust the hit for the action. And it's held down by the string pressure. | 2009-03-20 17:58:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| the pickup combination / legato sustain / pinch harmonic/ etc. can be really amp dependant as well... If you're gonna play through a high gain amp, it'll be loads easier to have the sustain needed for long legato runs, and easier to get harmonics on the guitar. Also, through high gain heads, a really high output pickup starts to sound like mud... a good example is how I believe Alexi Laiho uses passive EMGs through his setups because actives proved a little too hot. but again, that's all really setup dependant and pickups can always be swapped out for better ones later, so one decently made guitar can last you a long time. The only problem with music stores is that even really nice guitars aren't always set up in the most flattering manner, and most of the tube amps are dead when I try them... but they're bound to have the Line 6 Spider line, make sure you try out guitars with amps similar to yours or you'll be in for a surprise when you bring it home. | 2009-03-20 18:40:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278 |
| Alright. It really does seem like a good guitar, for the price and everything, is there anyway to get it in a different color? Or would I have to buy a faceplate for it? It seems like the only thing left for me to do is go there and try it out, and I'll try to find a Spider III like you said Foofles. Thanks for all the help guys, you three have been a very good help. I don't really know what pick ups mean but the reviews say it's pretty good and I don't think there is a downside to having good pickups... | 2009-03-20 22:09:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| The pick ups are pretty much ultra sensitive microphones for your guitar (at least my interpretation)...Those are the box things under the strings. Some pick ups are more sensitive than others. Some let you hold notes longer than others. I played on a guitar w/ sustaining pick ups before so It could hold the note forever (it ran off of a battery) But it was VERY VERY touchy | 2009-03-20 22:11:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| The pick ups are pretty much ultra sensitive microphones for your guitar (at least my interpretation)...Those are the box things under the strings. Some pick ups are more sensitive than others. Some let you hold notes longer than others. I played on a guitar w/ sustaining pick ups before so It could hold the note forever (it ran off of a battery) But it was VERY VERY touchy Hmm, my guitar right now probably has the worst pick ups ever then, I sustain a note for about 2 seconds and it dies out. Anyone wanna tell me how I can tell what the pick ups for that guitar are that I posted? | 2009-03-20 22:31:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| Another line to check out is the ESP Ltd. MH series: http://espguitars.com/guitars_mh.html Hmm, I checked out the MH-53. What does that guitar have that's different/better than the guitar I posted? Besides looks, simply because I really like how that guitar looks and the maple neck is my favorite part, and I really want a guitar with a neck like that. | 2009-03-20 22:35:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250 |
| You had active pickups? i was gonna get some active EMG's... but then i stopped playing metal lol... Now i am buying some seymour duncans... and i played like 45 amps today lol... and i liked the marshall MG100DFX the most.. it was the one that only had 1 speaker, but it was loud enough for gigs, i really liked the tone etc... so for ?250, i will probably be buying that.. I also tried some Fender amps, some Peavey amps, vox and line 6 | 2009-03-20 22:36:00 Author: Unknown User |
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