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LBPC Contest #12 - The Flip Side! (Update: Crown prize for LBP2 and Vita)

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Update: The Play Contest for LBPC12 has launched: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=86610-LBPC12-The-Flip-Side!-Play-Contest!



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THE FLIP SIDE!


Hey everyone! We’re back with a new contest for you. Before we get into the details, though, we’d like to say farewell to thespacemonkey187 who is leaving the Crew to “spend more time with his family” In his case, though, it’s true as the birth of his daughter means he has his hands full for a while. Congratulations to him and a huge thank you for everything he has done for the Crew. We’ll miss him A LOT!

Welcome to the Flip Side!

Welcome to a world of contradictions, contrast and reversals. Yes, our theme for this contest is “opposites”, where night meets day, black meets white and fire meets ice. Even the contest itself is a double-sided one. We thought it was time to showcase not just the create skills in the Community but the playing skills as well. So we start out with a create contest in which we are asking you to build a highscore level on the theme of “opposites” and then, once we’ve chosen the finalists from the create stage, we want to flip the contest over into a play contest and award a prize to the person who gets the highest scoreboard rankings in the shortlisted levels.

The contest is for both LBP2 and LBP Vita entries. A Crown and an LBPC pin will be awarded to the winner of the both the LBP2 and Vita create contests. The runner up in each category will get a $20 PSN card (or its nearest equivalent in other currencies).

The winner of the play contest will get an LBPC pin and a $20 PSN card.

Create

For the create part of the challenge we’d like you to build a highscore level i.e. a level where the gameplay is focussed on getting that coveted top slot on the scoreboard. This doesn’t mean you have to use race gates, though. Your level could feature bubble combos or cunningly hidden secret point stashes or anything else that will bring out that competitive edge in the players and get them gunning for first place. Replay value will be key.

The theme for the highscore levels is “opposites”. So your level should feature two contrasting elements or concepts, such as red/green, good/evil, big/small and so on. Ideally, these opposing elements should not be decorative only but be integrated into or affect the gameplay in some way.


Rules

• Create an original previously unpublished level based on the contest theme and gameplay requirements.

• The level can be of any genre, so long as accumulating a score is an integral part of the level

• Given the type of gameplay we’re looking for, cutscenes should be avoided apart from a short intro or outro (optional).

• One level slot/thermo per entry.

• All entries must be playable in LittleBigPlanet 2 or LBP Vita only. No cross-controller levels, but wormholes (and other cross-controller DLC) within a level without using the cross-controller functionality are allowed.

• Publish your levels between 25th and 30th April (final deadline is 11.59 pm GMT on 30th April) and include the text “(LBPC12)” in the title of the level.

• Post LBP.me links to your levels in this thread, so we’re sure not to miss them!

• You can only submit one entry. This means you must choose to enter either an LBP2 or a Vita entry NOT BOTH.

• After the deadline, do not republish. Levels republished after the deadline will be disqualified. Exceptions may be made for quick fixes with respect to level titles, description, badges, or major game-breaking fixes, but only with the prior consent of the contest crew. If you need to request an edit, please post in this thread and send me a PM.

• Last but not least, have fun, play fair and respect other creators, LBPC members, Judges and Staff! (Contestants banned from LBPC at any time during the period of the contest are automatically disqualified from it)

Play

Further details of the play challenge will be released nearer the time but essentially the goal will be for players to get the highest possible ranking they can in each of the shortlist contest entries. (If we don’t get enough entries in the Vita create competition we may not be able to run a play contest for Vita.)

Creators of the shortlisted levels will not be allowed to compete in the play contest as they would clearly have something of an advantage over everyone else!

When the play contest is over the results of the create and play contests will be announced at the same time.

Good luck to everyone who enters!

EDIT (27-03-2014): Prizes updated to include Crown for Vita create contest winner


Also a little Handy FAQ for you all


Q: Can I enter a previously published level?
A: No.

Q: Can I enter a level I already have on my moon, but hasn't yet been published?
A: Yes.

Q: Once I've published my entry, can I republish it?
A: You can republish it during the publishing window as many times as you like, but mustn't republish after the deadline.

Q: When will the judging begin?
A: The judges may take a look at some levels prior to the deadline, but the judging proper will not begin until after the deadline.

Q: When will the results be posted?
A: We can't really give any accurate answer to this, but it will be no more than a month after the judging begins.


LBPC Contest Crew

• biorogue • Dav1d0 • hyperdude95 • Jauw • Pookachoo • Shadowriver • shropshirelass		2014-03-15 20:08:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Sounds awesome! I'm already working on something for DV's contest and the deadline is pretty tight for me since I will be away from my PS3 for 3 or 4 weeks (got to enter on PS3 if there's no crown for vita! ). But no, I'll definitely do something for this. Score challenge levels are some of my favourites (played Hero Race so many times to get into the top 1% haha) so I'd love to try making one myself. And of course I'll play them all too

Good luck everyone!		2014-03-15 20:25:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Great to see another contest. I would just like to say a big thank you to all the contest crew. I had a great time and was sad to leave.

Well done to Hyper too. My place couldn't have been filled by anyone better.

Good luck to everyone who plans to take part.

Have fun with it guys. 		2014-03-15 20:36:00

Author:
thespacemonkey187
Posts: 318

Aaw, thank you, Tom. It was an absolute pleasure to have you on the Crew and we were really sorry when you decided you had to stand down. We totally understand why though, lol! She's gorgeous and, of course, she has to come to first!

Yes, we hope that this will be a fun and simple contest that anyone can enter and have a good go at! I look forward to playing the entries xD		2014-03-15 20:44:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Great to see another contest. I would just like to say a big thank you to all the contest crew. I had a great time and was sad to leave.

Well done to Hyper too. My place couldn't have been filled by anyone better.


We'll miss you tom, it was great judging eye candy with you! I also look forward to more of your stunning silhouette levels when you get the chance to make more!

-hyper		2014-03-15 20:49:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Great theme Contest Crew, I cannot say I saw this one coming!

I like the idea of the whole part 'Create' part 'Play' contest, really, even though there are bound to be tricks up some gadders' sleeves. Excluding creators make sense, I just hope they don't throw in some secret boosts that only their friends know how to access, as a means to win the 'Play' contest.		2014-03-15 21:00:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208

I entwr it on vita. Since I think lbpv needs more attention! Im not sure if I will finish this. I try to enter :/ But it sounds really cool.2014-03-15 21:00:00

Author:
Sandro8708
Posts: 625

Great theme Contest Crew, I cannot say I saw this one coming!

I like the idea of the whole part 'Create' part 'Play' contest, really, even though there are bound to be tricks up some gadders' sleeves. Excluding creators make sense, I just hope they don't throw in some secret boosts that only their friends know how to access, as a means to win the 'Play' contest.

Well, I'm going to have faith that creators wouldn't do that and even if they do, the play contest will involve a number of short-listed levels so any advantage would be diluted. Also, it's worth remembering that the results of the create contest are not being announced until after the end of the play contest. If we felt that any of the short-listed creators was abusing the system to favour their friends in the play contest, that would count against their chances of winning the create contest, as it would breach the "play fair" rule. Still I really don't see this as being a real problem. There are some players out there who are so good that they'd overcome any advantages that knowing the creator could provide. xD

Thanks for raising the issue though. We'll certainly keep an eye out for any unfairness of that kind 		2014-03-15 21:23:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

April 26 is my Birthday! I shal
l enter this for sure!		2014-03-15 21:26:00

Author:
KING_HACK_GREEN
Posts: 41

YYYYYEEEEEESSSSS New contest! I am definitely entering this on the Vita side! Awesome 8)

Btw, does it matter if I am now part of the Spotlight Crew? Or can I still enter normally? 		2014-03-15 21:38:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478

YYYYYEEEEEESSSSS New contest! I am definitely entering this on the Vita side! Awesome 8)

Btw, does it matter if I am now part of the Spotlight Crew? Or can I still enter normally?

I believe you can , yes. Any one who is not a judge for this contest can enter.

-hyper

EDIT: Don't quote me on it though, I could be wrong. 		2014-03-15 21:42:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Lol, you can still enter normally...if being normal is still possible for you for after joining the Spotlight Crew 2014-03-15 21:44:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Can I enter a locked level from my earth if it has never been published unlocked? I have 7 plays from testers. Just wondering about the technicality of being published but also being locked since publishing.2014-03-15 23:06:00

Author:
aratiatia
Posts: 374

Yess Thank you for making this contest! I've been waiting for this so long! I can't wait for more info about the Play contest )2014-03-15 23:25:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

Oooh I really like the theme for this contest. I'm looking forward to judge all of your amazing creations!!

-- Jauw		2014-03-15 23:31:00

Author:
Jauw
Posts: 484

Can I enter a locked level from my earth if it has never been published unlocked? I have 7 plays from testers. Just wondering about the technicality of being published but also being locked since publishing.

That should be fine. As long as it was only published locked 		2014-03-15 23:45:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Assuming I'm reading the rules correctly, six weeks seems like a nice healthy amount of time to develop a level. I might be tempted to enter, as well.2014-03-16 02:15:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

i'll enter for creating BUT there is a another contest related to this, which means... (Hint, Hint)2014-03-16 02:24:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Wow how in the heck did I miss this!!!! Wish everyone the best of luck2014-03-16 03:10:00

Author:
L-I-M-I
Posts: 611

Wow, nice contest! I sadly won't be participating in the create portion, however, I'm definitely up for playing some levels.
Oh, and Super congratulations to thespacemonkey187 and his newest family member! 		2014-03-16 03:40:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018

Should this only be focused as a single player experience, or can I also design for multiplayer?

I assume the Play portion will only be for single player score, but I'm curious if I could add a multiplayer option, as well.		2014-03-16 04:16:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

I'll be entering seeing as I already have a possibly eligible entry, but I wish good luck to all the other competitors in the create and play portions! Also, a massive thank you to thespacemonkey187 for his contributions and a good luck as he enters his new world in fatherhood! 2014-03-16 07:41:00

Author:
Bryan_Zuckerberg
Posts: 874

Hey! Something I might not ignore.

Let's hope I don't get snubbed again if I make something cool. :B		2014-03-16 08:05:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

Very interesting! I plan to enter and I've already started! Good luck to everyone entering on both the Vita and PS3 version! 2014-03-16 08:27:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Should this only be focused as a single player experience, or can I also design for multiplayer?

I assume the Play portion will only be for single player score, but I'm curious if I could add a multiplayer option, as well.

You can certainly make it a multiplayer level as long as it can be played single player as well, so that it works for the play contest.		2014-03-16 08:33:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

I will try to enter the vita's creation contest if I have enough time (now my main exams are nearly over...)2014-03-16 10:52:00

Author:
Gwaeron
Posts: 170

I like the sound of this, I'm in the process of collecting everything again after losing my 100% but hopefully I have enough collected to begin figuring out an idea for this 2014-03-16 11:17:00

Author:
ghostrider135
Posts: 259

can I co-create a level with someone and if we win both get the pins just the psn card for one of us?2014-03-16 13:31:00

Author:
StrawberryHeAt
Posts: 33

So, its only the LBP2 winner who gets crowned and the VITA winner doesn't? Am i reading the rules correctly?2014-03-16 14:42:00

Author:
RtooDee2
Posts: 175

So, its only the LBP2 winner who gets crowned and the VITA winner doesn't? Am i reading the rules correctly?

Can you even get a crown on LBPV yet? :/ Been away for so long that I can't remember haha.

This sounds awesome. Please don't hurt me for this, but I haven't played LBP since 2012! And have only just put it back in my dusty PS3 (work commitments, been months since I've been online ).

Looking forward to this and, even though I didn't know you personally, congratulations SpaceMonkey,I hope you have a great time with the joys of parenthood (Unless this is your second child, in which case, my comment is useless!) 		2014-03-16 15:05:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454

can I co-create a level with someone and if we win both get the pins just the psn card for one of us?

In the past we have done that, if we're happy that the level is a genuine co-creation between two creators and not just someone helping out a little.


So, its only the LBP2 winner who gets crowned and the VITA winner doesn't? Am i reading the rules correctly?

I'm really sorry but the last time we ran a Crown contest for Vita (LBPC11) we got only 5 entries in total. That's just not enough to warrant giving a Crown to the winner. So we said after that (it's somewhere in the LBPC11 results thread, I think) that we wouldn't be running any more Vita Crown contests. However, it does seem a shame and so we will discuss this further behind the scenes. Maybe we could say that if, and only if, we get a certain minimum number of entries, the Vita winner will get a Crown. Leave it with us.		2014-03-16 17:46:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Yeah... It is so sad there are so little entries to Vita contests lately... I truly have no idea how to attract more people into it... Maybe someday we can make some collaboration between LBPC, LBN and LBF? That would be awesome XD2014-03-16 19:12:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478

Nice contest

Unfortunately I have no free slot on my earth

Would be great if there will come a kind of levelslot expansions soon.

However: nice contest 		2014-03-16 21:38:00

Author:
avundcv
Posts: 2526

hmmm! this is great idea. I just made something today that I can use for this, that I am sure none of the other entries will have. But erhm, are the create and play separate contest? Like do you have to get to the finals than be amazing at your own level, or...?


--EDIT--

nevermind, I see now.		2014-03-16 22:07:00

Author:
Wafflegod345
Posts: 74

Wall jumping and JetPack added in my level. But what should I write in name of the level?2014-03-16 23:17:00

Author:
KING_HACK_GREEN
Posts: 41

Wall jumping and JetPack added in my level. But what should I write in name of the level?

Please include the text “(LBPC12)” in the title of the level, the rest of the name is up to you 		2014-03-16 23:44:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

One question Contest Crew! I was wondering if I could use the scene I created for LBPC Eye Candy as part of one of the rooms in my level! The player should be able to clear that area just by walking through it in less than 5 seconds. Also, it is OK if you don't take that very room into consideration for the judging. I just wanted to have your permission because it fitted so well with what I have in mind for an entry.2014-03-17 00:25:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478

Hmm...so a survival challenge would be appropriate for this contest? Where you have to survive as long as possible to get a high score.2014-03-17 00:49:00

Author:
AmazingKittyCat
Posts: 204

Awesome contest theme! I think I've got a good idea for this one!2014-03-17 01:09:00

Author:
Loafsy
Posts: 68

So squid2723, actio1_618 and I will be collaborating on this one. It will abide by all of the requirements but in the worst way possible.2014-03-17 04:28:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487

Hey, so all i have to do is have "(LBPC12)" in my levels name to enter? Do i not have to write my details in a separate thread?2014-03-17 08:35:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

The rules say you should post the link in this thread so the judges don't miss any 2014-03-17 11:29:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

One question Contest Crew! I was wondering if I could use the scene I created for LBPC Eye Candy as part of one of the rooms in my level! The player should be able to clear that area just by walking through it in less than 5 seconds. Also, it is OK if you don't take that very room into consideration for the judging. I just wanted to have your permission because it fitted so well with what I have in mind for an entry.

I'll double-check with the rest of thwe Crew but at first glance I can't see anything wrong with you using your Eye Candy scene. It's not as though the Eye Candy levels were full playable levels and it sounds as though it would only be one small part of your entry. There would be nothing in the rules to stop anyone re-using one visual element from an existing level provided it was integrated into a new level. So I'd be inclined to say go ahead.


Hmm...so a survival challenge would be appropriate for this contest? Where you have to survive as long as possible to get a high score.

Yes, a survival challenge would be within the rules.


Hey, so all i have to do is have "(LBPC12)" in my levels name to enter? Do i not have to write my details in a separate thread?

No, we don't have a registration thread. As long as you use the tag "(LBPC12)" in your level title we should be able to find it by searching on lbp.me. As Cogmonkey says, however, the rules suggest that it would be sensible to post a link to your level in this thread when you've published it, just to make extra sure we don't miss it. 		2014-03-17 14:20:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Ooooh contest! It's been a while i couldn't fit into one, and now i have time for this!
Wait, april is "everybody in the family birthday's month"?
Nah, they have birthdays every years... They won't even notice.
I'm in! 		2014-03-18 00:23:00

Author:
Djibees
Posts: 189

I'm going for the vita version of this contest, wish me luck!2014-03-18 02:13:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

i have a question that i really didn't see in the rules. Are you guys looking for a specific style of play ? like platformer or survival challenge? I only ask this question because a level can be judged differently based on this aspect.2014-03-18 16:54:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

i have a question that i really didn't see in the rules. Are you guys looking for a specific style of play ? like platformer or survival challenge? I only ask this question because a level can be judged differently based on this aspect.

Just as long as it fits the theme Opposites and is a highscore level, you should be good to go if that specific style of play fits those two guidelines.

-hyper		2014-03-18 17:47:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

I was afraid you would say that haha2014-03-18 18:32:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

I have a question, can there be a small story element to the level? Say, you play through the level and there are some characters along the way. Can you stop for a second a talk to them? Platforming and a "flip theme" would obviously be more of the focus, but I was thinking about implementing a deeper meaning through a story that ties in with my theme.2014-03-18 21:39:00

Author:
Loafsy
Posts: 68

I have a question, can there be a small story element to the level? Say, you play through the level and there are some characters along the way. Can you stop for a second a talk to them? Platforming and a "flip theme" would obviously be more of the focus, but I was thinking about implementing a deeper meaning through a story that ties in with my theme.

If you'd like to include a story that's fine, just don't use cutscenes during the level - focus on story telling through gameplay as much as possible. A shot cutscene a the start/end is okay, and having characters with magic mouths along the way is fine so long as you don't stop the gameplay with a cutscene partway through.		2014-03-18 22:45:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

I have an idea that I could do on both the vita and the ps3, but I don't know which would be better. So does the vita winner get a crown too, or is that only on lbp2?2014-03-19 01:25:00

Author:
Wafflegod345
Posts: 74

I have an idea that I could do on both the vita and the ps3, but I don't know which would be better. So does the vita winner get a crown too, or is that only on lbp2?

If you want a crown you should be aiming for PS3, 'cause if I got it right in Vita there will be no crown. They might get one if enough entries are submitted, but not really something to heavily expect.		2014-03-19 02:40:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478

Sounds like a great idea i haven't been interested in contest levels lately but this one has cought my eye.

You have said any gameplay style is valid so i am guessing i could make a level that does not use sack folk at all only animated models. Its sounds like any type of level would work really as most levels consist of accumulating high scores.

I have a good sidescrolling project on the go on the Vita that might just make the category. I have a lot on at the moment but still i may enter this one.		2014-03-19 10:07:00

Author:
Lordwarblade
Posts: 761

Wait... Is this a crown contest?2014-03-19 20:20:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Wait... Is this a crown contest?


A Crown and an LBPC pin will be awarded to the winner of the LBP2 create contest. The winner of the Vita create contest will get a pin and $20 PSN card (or its nearest equivalent in other currencies). The runner up in each category will get a $20 PSN card too.

The winner of the play contest will get an LBPC pin and a $20 PSN card.

adsgsdghd		2014-03-19 20:25:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

adsgsdghd

Annnnd this just got harder then i thought, Now i don't know what to go with... Either the $20 PSN card or The Rare Prize Crown.

I must choose wisely...		2014-03-19 21:32:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Sounds like a great idea i haven't been interested in contest levels lately but this one has cought my eye.

You have said any gameplay style is valid so i am guessing i could make a level that does not use sack folk at all only animated models. Its sounds like any type of level would work really as most levels consist of accumulating high scores.

I have a good sidescrolling project on the go on the Vita that might just make the category. I have a lot on at the moment but still i may enter this one.

A level using animated models instead of Sackpeople, or a side scroller would be fine - so long as you can rack up points 		2014-03-20 02:06:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Are we allowed to publish before the date assigned and can a co-creator/helper get top score if they help created the winner.2014-03-20 04:58:00

Author:
Caliboy4599
Posts: 67

can a co-creator/helper get top score if they help created the winner.
I don't think this would be fair as the helper has got to play the level before others and have much more knowledge about the level compared to others when it is published.		2014-03-20 13:45:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

Are we allowed to publish before the date assigned and can a co-creator/helper get top score if they help created the winner.

No, a co-creator would not be eligible for the high score contest. But keep in mind this only applies to creators whose levels are chosen for the score challenge. If you enter the create contest but your level is not chosen for the score challenge, then you will be eligible to participate in the score contest.

As for the publish date, you're not allowed to publish before April 25 (except for locked levels, for play testing) but if you have a reason that you really can't publish during that window, talk to me or one of the other crew members.
We want to make this fair and accessible for everyone 		2014-03-20 19:28:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

No, a co-creator would not be eligible for the high score contest. But keep in mind this only applies to creators whose levels are chosen for the score challenge. If you enter the create contest but your level is not chosen for the score challenge, then you will be eligible to participate in the score contest.

As for the publish date, you're not allowed to publish before April 25 (except for locked levels, for play testing) but if you have a reason that you really can't publish during that window, talk to me or one of the other crew members.
We want to make this fair and accessible for everyone

Thanks that's helpful, but would a co-creator include someone who just helped with a logic problem or tested it out before the level is published? I might have a friend or two help me with something so it might be helpful for me to know, thanks 		2014-03-21 02:04:00

Author:
Caliboy4599
Posts: 67

Haha, I see that we have an early entry (http://lbp.me/v/qq3wbx5) (Disqualified?) and a couple locked levels already! I'm currently at around 50% done with my entry (below) although it doesn't look like much in create mode. The logic is all working fine and I'll be working on building up surrounding visuals, title, menu, music, etc! Good Luck!


http://i4.lbp.me/img/ft/f04557261297ac260ad740b91a75f909a48595ea.jpg		2014-03-21 04:44:00

Author:
Bryan_Zuckerberg
Posts: 874

@Caliboy4599 - If a friend helps with an isolated logic problem and doesn't get to play test large sections of the level or see where secrets are placed, then that should be alright. To be perfectly honest, there's no way we can check who has had access to the level on your Moon or for how long. So we're going to have to rely on creators to use their judgement and play fair. If you think a friend might be entering the play contest, don't give them any access which would give them an unfair advantage over others. I'm sure there are plenty of players not entering the contest who could play test your level for you.

There will be a number of levels on the short-list so that helps even things out, and any blatant bending of the rules which comes to our notice will count against the creator concerned. I'm sure you wouldn't get involved in anything like that, though. By coming and asking you're showing that you're being responsible. I'd only add, then, that the more access you give to a friend who is entering the play contest, the more likely it is someone will get suspicious and complain to us about it. It may therefore be in your own best interests to keep that sort of thing to a minimum.		2014-03-21 05:08:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Thanks @shropshirelass for writing that out, helpful info right there for me.

Thanks 		2014-03-21 05:22:00

Author:
Caliboy4599
Posts: 67

I started making a level for this contest, completely forgot what I was doing and just ended up making another platforming level haha Will have to go and start again I think 2014-03-23 16:32:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454

Contestants banned from LBPC at any time during the period of the contest are automatically disqualified from it

So...I have an important question. I was just banned for a few minutes but it was entirely self-inflicted. My limited mod powers provided me with a ban button that was just too tempting to resist...so can I still enter? 		2014-03-25 16:17:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

So...I have an important question. I was just banned for a few minutes but it was entirely self-inflicted. My limited mod powers provided me with a ban button that was just too tempting to resist...so can I still enter?

Yes, it was an accidental ban. Though I do not know how that was even possible, you should be ok.

-hyper		2014-03-25 16:21:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Sweet! Time to get back to creating I guess! It'll be a hard time choosing between the botzone of Kz mercenary, the 1.2 update of terraria and creating. Borderlands 2 will have to wait even longer I guess, haha!
Oh, sorry, I'm dwelling off topic.
Good luck to all the creators, and may the best level (and creator) win!		2014-03-26 21:58:00

Author:
wolfbrother117
Posts: 150

I'm really sorry but the last time we ran a Crown contest for Vita (LBPC11) we got only 5 entries in total. That's just not enough to warrant giving a Crown to the winner. So we said after that (it's somewhere in the LBPC11 results thread, I think) that we wouldn't be running any more Vita Crown contests. However, it does seem a shame and so we will discuss this further behind the scenes. Maybe we could say that if, and only if, we get a certain minimum number of entries, the Vita winner will get a Crown. Leave it with us.

Yay, I'm really happy to be able to say that we're changing the rules and a Crown will be offered as a prize for the winning Vita entry as well as the LBP2 one. Hope that encourages a few more Vita entries. I've updated the OP and will tweet to let people know, but please pass the news along in the Vita Community! <3

Thanks too to Steven for approving this!		2014-03-27 16:01:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Yay, I'm really happy to be able to say that we're changing the rules and a Crown will be offered as a prize for the winning Vita entry as well as the LBP2 one. Hope that encourages a few more Vita entries. I've updated the OP and will tweet to let people know, but please pass the news along in the Vita Community! <3

Consider me encouraged. Will definitely be entering for vita now! 		2014-03-27 16:16:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

I was really tired from my idea. But now I think I will still enter the vita contest 2014-03-27 19:33:00

Author:
Sandro8708
Posts: 625

Yay, I'm really happy to be able to say that we're changing the rules and a Crown will be offered as a prize for the winning Vita entry as well as the LBP2 one. Hope that encourages a few more Vita entries. I've updated the OP and will tweet to let people know, but please pass the news along in the Vita Community! <3

Thanks too to Steven for approving this!

HOORAY!
Still i'm still choosing which Game to publish... Still Thanks. :blush:		2014-03-27 20:03:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Okay I HAD NO IDEA FOR A OPPOSITE DESIGN O_O THIS IS WAY TO HARD FOR MY MIND.2014-03-27 20:43:00

Author:
Sandro8708
Posts: 625

Lol, if you're really stuck just make the opposites bit decorative so day/night or black and white. Maybe if you pick a theme you'll end up finding ways to integrate it with the game play after all xD Don't give up!!!2014-03-27 21:23:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Should i say the opposite and say i'm not entering in this one?? haha

Hopefully everyone has a productive creative weekend! 		2014-03-27 21:55:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

I'm glad to hear about the updated Vita news! I'll help get the word out as much as possible! 2014-04-01 12:31:00

Author:
Bryan_Zuckerberg
Posts: 874

Can I enter the Vita one without owning a vita? haha

I was genuinely excited about this, until I remembered I am stupidly busy with work, and have no imaginative skills what so ever haha

Good luck, peeps. Look forward to playing them all at a later date 		2014-04-01 18:58:00

Author:
LittleBigSnooth
Posts: 454

My level is coming along nicely, really getting into the vita creating jazz. The awesome thing about this contest is that even though I doubt I could win, there's still a chance my level could be used in the play contest. That's encouraging me to try to make it a good high score level. I don't know how other people will find it but I'm having fun testing out the continuous bubble chain I have running through the level. At its current stage of completion I can get a x36 multiplier if I don't stop for breath

Just hope my "opposites" theme is strong enough 		2014-04-04 13:00:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Just a friendly reminder to everyone, please do not publish your entry (unless the level is locked) until the publishing window arrives, which is April 25th to April 30th 12AM GMT or the entry will be disqualified.

I already see a couple of published entries...

-hyper		2014-04-04 16:28:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Well that answers that question. 2014-04-04 19:11:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

I got a question... Can we add Sackbots for our levels?

*NOTE: Sorry about the Double Posting, My internet was quite my laggy*		2014-04-04 23:04:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Hmm, I don't see why not! Just as long as it fits the level fits theme and its still a highscore level, it should be ok.

-hyper		2014-04-05 00:25:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Hmm, I don't see why not! Just as long as it fits the level fits theme and its still a highscore level, it should be ok.

-hyper

Thanks!		2014-04-05 01:49:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Hey, I just have a little question. My level is a 1 player level, but other players can watch. Would I get more points if my level was playable by more than 1 player? Or does it not matter? Thanks :32014-04-06 08:29:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Hey, I just have a little question. My level is a 1 player level, but other players can watch. Would I get more points if my level was playable by more than 1 player? Or does it not matter? Thanks :3

The amount of players capable of playing your level will not affect our judging of the overall experience

-- Jauw		2014-04-06 10:07:00

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Jauw
Posts: 484

Thanks Jauw!2014-04-06 17:46:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Well since i have an full week of half days, this might give me a boost for my entry.2014-04-07 17:55:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

We're at half the deadline now, and I wonder how fast you people are working? How many hours do you spent on your levels per week? Are you realizing there are things that probably won't fit in your level?

I can't work more than 1-2 hours a day, and at this point I haven't build any scenery at all. I have 6-7 pages of planned things, but for now I'm still working on my logic - not that it is hard, but it's time-consuming.

I really wanted to make a multiplayer level but the logic has its limits and I'll have to scrap a major part of what would have been fun in my gameplay. 		2014-04-07 23:19:00

Author:
Djibees
Posts: 189

@Djibees

I have learned from contests that you must have the beginning and the end done first just in case you run out of time.... and yeah youll have to scrap those good ideas and save them till after the judging is over. Than recreate what your not happy with. Well thats what i always do...

I started about a week ago. and i drew up all sorts of ideas. and worked with many different concepts on the moon. but lots of ideas get trashed well because the gameplay dosnt really flow right... And it wasnt fun. and when your not having fun most likely it wont be fun for anyone else..

So tonight i will start fresh because i understand what i was doing wrong. hopefully... hhaha

with Little amount of time left it would be better for two people on the my moon together but know one wants to work for free. haha

Something is better than nothing and have fun with it 		2014-04-08 01:15:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Lol those are some great tips @pj15!

Unfortunately I just started making my level today (school and stuff) and I will be leaving on holidays really soon... But I hope to manage a decent entry on time to support the Vita side 8)

Good luck everyone!		2014-04-08 03:13:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478

Less than 3 weeks and counting... no pressure

-hyper		2014-04-08 19:45:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Okay i got 4 more questions i want to ask... LOLZ

1. Can we add a Boss Battle into our level
2. Does it matter if the level is Hard, Easy, or Very Hard
3. Are Puns and Jokes Okay?
and 4. Because Foofing is entering this contest, Where should she post her level now? (Since LBPC can't let new users join)		2014-04-09 01:42:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Okay i got 4 more questions i want to ask... LOLZ

1. Can we add a Boss Battle into our level
2. Does it matter if the level is Hard, Easy, or Very Hard
3. Are Puns and Jokes Okay?
and 4. Because Foofing is entering this contest, Where should she post her level now? (Since LBPC can't let new users join)

Challenge accepted

1. you can as long as the highscore/opposite theme isn't compromised by it.

2. Just as long as it keeps us entertained and doesn't make us rage quit, you should be ok.

3.Hmm, as long as they are appropriate and not offensive, then yes.

4.New users can register now the problem has been fixed. If your friend still has problems making an account, please contact a LBPC moderator.

-hyper		2014-04-09 02:13:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Challenge accepted

1. you can as long as the highscore/opposite theme isn't compromised by it.

2. Just as long as it keeps us entertained and doesn't make us rage quit, you should be ok.

3.Hmm, as long as they are appropriate and not offensive, then yes.

4.New users can register now the problem has been fixed. If your friend still has problems making an account, please contact a LBPC moderator.

-hyper
Thanks Hyper!		2014-04-09 02:15:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

You guys cant imagine how much my hands are hurting me from being on my ps3 all weekend.....i have developed Little big carpal tunnel : P2014-04-13 16:43:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Nuuu! Ouch...still, hopefully that means there's an epic entry on the way

@Tikaki-MooMoo - To add to what Hyper said, there's actually no requirement for entrants to be registered at LBPC, so as long as Foofing puts LBPC12 in the level title we should be able to find it. And you yourself can always post the link in this thread for us, to make doubly sure we don't miss it 		2014-04-13 17:00:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Well Something is on its way.. I'm trying to catch up since i started two weeks late.... Epic? more like "Horrible" .... 2014-04-13 17:39:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Aaaand... I'm gone. Like I said before, "Everybody's birthday month" has kicked in and I'm going into my family for a few days, meaning I have to leave all my work until I come back around the 24th... Which would give me little time to finish something.

I've done a lot and even if I don't make it for the contest, there will be a level published anyway. I have about 1/4 of the content I had planned to create yet, and I made my first real beta this morning.

I just hope to remember what all my notes will relate to when I'll be back! 		2014-04-14 09:26:00

Author:
Djibees
Posts: 189

Umm i have to say that there was a player that went into my locked level. without permission and played my level. And this person might be entering in this contest. His profile name is........ well maybe i should not say this persons name. but i can warn the judges when it comes time. Who would like to know?

i think i saw him enter other locked entries as well.

I guess i need to lock the locked level from the inside just in case..... :/		2014-04-15 18:24:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

this is why you don't publish locked levels. publish your levels as sub-levels then lock it or either sub-level and then a lock box with a combination that if done correctly will show the level link. Never trust those locks.2014-04-15 19:47:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424

I didn't know i can lock it that way really...

yeah i needed an extra copy to my earth just in case there was an issue.

i make modifications and try many things and sometimes ive seen some crazy glitches
i also had one friend to doing a test run for me. Never plays the same in multiplayer and i have a hard time getting people onto my moon lately. My ps3 gives me freezer burn

Well tonight i will delete it off my earth completely i have done all the testing we needed.		2014-04-15 20:49:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

As Bio said, publish your level as locked and make it a sub-level. There's no way of entering the level if you do so. Comph made a video tutorial on how to make an in-game lockbox on youtube. But that is way more complicated.

-- Jauw		2014-04-15 21:58:00

Author:
Jauw
Posts: 484

Okay sounds good. that was to easy...i hope this works thanks for the advice guys. Sorry i sound like a noob , i have never needed to really worry about this kinda thing2014-04-15 23:18:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Yeah it happened to me too. I block anyone who plays without permission. Also...my level is finished.2014-04-16 03:06:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

9 more days until the publishing window opens! #Excited

-hyper		2014-04-16 16:39:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

My Level is ALMOST done, Now i have put in the bubbles that is if i can buy more Prize Bubbles and Bubble Bottles.2014-04-16 22:38:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Bubbles last ? hope you have therm left .... this time when i started my level i dropped in a whole mess of bubbles at the bottom of the level just in case, this way i know how much therm i'm working with. I usually leave the bubble till the end and i'm like oh noooooo, there's no room 2014-04-17 14:25:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Bubbles are overrated................2014-04-17 16:32:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

I have a great idea. Let’s extend the contest deadline to May 31st. This will ensure we get more awesomeness entered. All in favor, say I. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIII. OK, it’s official, the I’s have it and the contest should be extended. Thanks!2014-04-17 19:47:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

Elaborate your reasoning of the deadline extension on behalf of your claim, good sir.

-hyper		2014-04-17 21:35:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

It would drive me crazy to have a finished level on my moon a whole other month and a half....2014-04-17 22:41:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

It would drive me crazy to have a finished level on my moon a whole other month and a half....

Perfect, this means you are in! Thanks again, your support means a lot to the community and I. Also, I've been sitting on your key forever now. My sincere apologies, as I have had no play time on LBP lately due to this silly deadline looming!


Elaborate your reasoning of the deadline extension on behalf of your claim, good sir.
-hyper

Are you trying to tell me that more awesomeness isn?t a great reason for anything? Have you lost your mind good sir? Sure, I could go on and on how little time you gave us to begin with, but I won?t. OK, maybe just a little? You see sometimes there are creators, like me for instance, who can?t create their way out of a corner editor or who simply need more time to build and destroy a level multiple times until it rises from the ashes like a majestic unicorn on steroids. Then there are other creators, like shookie for example, who use some type of wicked black magic and voodoo to create multiple levels in the blink of the eye.

Let?s level the playing field here and add a kink to this contest and extend the deadline! Be brave, dare to be different? After all, shookie already implied he was OK with this because he said, ?It would drive me crazy to have a finished level on my moon a whole other month and a half....?, and we already know him and his black magic are crazy, so his point was moot.		2014-04-17 23:08:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

Awesomeness is awesomeness, and I think your answer and the reasoning is awesome.

To be fair though, we even have a play contest to add to the mix and that will consume more time already. :/ Not to mention people have already finished their levels and are waiting to publish.

Hopefully when HUB comes out we can start fresh as well, but we do not know when that will come and if it releases during the contest then it would not feel right. :/

I would be more than happy to ask the team on their thoughts of your request!

Also, you should add me. I'm a big fan of your work.

-hyper		2014-04-17 23:25:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

shookie knows black magic?? haa I always looked at him as a han solo type kinda guy.
Maybe shookie had a little Easter vacation thing?

May 30 for a deadline seems a bit long from now. a week would be nice. i wouldn't have to lose sleep.
I should be able to finish in time... i did start two weeks late, but i have managed this task once before.

I wonder dose the lbpc team have a good sense as to how many people are ACTUALLY participating? It would be interesting to know.... maybe a count?.... cause maybe if it is like 3 people then why not just keep the deadline. it will give me a better chance . hahaha		2014-04-17 23:48:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

I dont know black magic. Spitfire is just in awe of my mad skills at cranking out levels so fast lol. And yes I will be gone all next week with no ps3 so I had to get finished this week.2014-04-18 00:03:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

I wonder dose the lbpc team have a good sense as to how many people are ACTUALLY participating? It would be interesting to know.... maybe a count?.... cause maybe if it is like 3 people then why not just keep the deadline. it will give me a better chance . hahaha

We can't keep track of the levels before the deadline, but there are 10 locked levels published according to LBP.me

But there're hopefully some more hiding their levels on their moon

Good luck!

-- Jauw		2014-04-18 00:45:00

Author:
Jauw
Posts: 484

Bubbles are overrated................

Overrated is Bubbles. Now you know as yet...
http://www.coqdiddles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/the-more-you-know.jpg		2014-04-18 01:54:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

I have a level hiding on my moon. Unfortunately it's about 20% complete. That week extension would be awesome.

My excuse for being so far behind is that I was creating for another contest, but shookie entered that contest too and is already finished with a level for this one. I can't keep up!

No more time for chatting. Bring on the coffee! Here comes a create-athon.		2014-04-18 02:30:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

Just under a week untill the Play side starts When are we getting more info about it? Is it gonna have a point system like the LBN playing contest had?2014-04-19 15:55:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

We'll post details and rules for the play contest in a new thread, after the April 30 deadline for creating 2014-04-19 16:16:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Would love to have a extension for the contest. I fear tho my idea is a little to complex for just one level. Sigh, plus real life has been rather busy... O-o Sooo haven't created much sadly. But.. I do have another level or two also in the works so that doesn't help...

~Calyst		2014-04-21 18:56:00

Author:
calyst_aayla
Posts: 217

Given the type of gameplay we?re looking for, cutscenes should be avoided apart from a short intro or outro (optional).

I have a couple of lines of dialogue at the start, including one magic mouth set to cutscene camera. This is all before the race starts so I guess it's fine, but would I be able to have a single, non-cutscene magic mouth halfway through the level to reference the uh, oppositisation of the gameplay? The speech bubble doesn't obstruct anything but it might distract people slightly. I can't imagine many people would still have their bubble combo going at that point in the level on their first try but meh What say you, contest crew?		2014-04-21 22:39:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Just as long as it does not force you to stop like a cutscene does, then it should be ok. If you can keep going, then its the players choice if they want to stop to look or not and whether they want to risk their combo being compromised.

-hyper		2014-04-21 23:53:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Quick question: Will there be a prize for most bugs? I?m pretty sure if I have to turn this current level of mine in by the April 30th, then I?ll win that prize. I hope it's a new car!!!!!2014-04-22 17:09:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

Based on the official responses I got after discussing a deadline extension with the crew, the verdict is that the deadline will not be changed and the publishing window will open in three days.

Apologies to those who wanted a deadline extension, but on the bright side the window opens until the 30th.

Stay tuned for more details of the Play Contest soon!

-hyper		2014-04-22 19:10:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

I’m looking forward to driving my new car! 2014-04-22 20:09:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

I?m looking forward to driving my new car!

Here ya go!

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGX7CALJyi9JbxPOREOEbwSz_Hr3m7Q BmC3u6wOyImrRldt76X		2014-04-22 20:23:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Just as long as it does not force you to stop like a cutscene does, then it should be ok. If you can keep going, then its the players choice if they want to stop to look or not and whether they want to risk their combo being compromised.

-hyper

I don't see why a short cut scene wouldn't be ok as long as it's fair for all players. I have a short cut scene in the middle of my level. it has no effect on the score and is too good to get rid of so I hope it's okay.

@ Peoriaspitfire, can I catch a ride with you. I need to be picked up at the airport.		2014-04-22 23:01:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

I don't see why a short cut scene wouldn't be ok as long as it's fair for all players. I have a short cut scene in the middle of my level. it has no effect on the score and is too good to get rid of so I hope it's okay.


Does the cutscene force the player to stop? If so, I may need to nudge you on that.

Any scene that interrupts the player's the flow of the level by force (besides an intro/outro) is something I strongly recommend you should not have.

Though, I see your point if the highscore isn't compromised and it is still fair in a way. Might need another crew member's thought on this one just to be sure.

-hyper		2014-04-23 02:37:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Consider that a good score challenge level should also have good replay value - since a real score seeking player will likely have several goes. First impressions are important, but also look at replay value.

From OP:

• Given the type of gameplay we’re looking for, cutscenes should be avoided apart from a short intro or outro (optional).
We wouldn't disqualify a level for going against this, it's just that after the Eye Candy comp, we're looking for gameplay most of all 		2014-04-23 05:18:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Couldn't we at least extend the window to May 2nd? That's my birthday 2014-04-23 13:32:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

Couldn't we at least extend the window to May 2nd? That's my birthday

Excellent idea! Let’s extend this to May 2, 2015!		2014-04-23 15:15:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

Couldn't we at least extend the window to May 2nd? That's my birthday

Happy early birthday!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Birthday_candles.jpg

Really sorry, but there isn't an official extension for the deadline. :/

-hyper		2014-04-23 18:49:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Thanks

That's ok, though. I suppose I'll just have to limit my scope. I suppose I can always add the extra goodies later.		2014-04-23 19:34:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

thanks for the advice. I'll make the cut scene optional for the players. those who are replaying would appreciate this I think. thanks for pointing that out, Pookachoo.2014-04-23 22:30:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

The window opens tommorrow!

Get those LBP.me links and publishing button ready!

Friendly reminder: Make sure you have (LBPC12) in the title of your level!

-hyper		2014-04-24 19:42:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

The window opens tommorrow!

Get those LBP.me links and publishing button ready!

Friendly reminder: Make sure you have (LBPC1) in the title of your level!

-hyper

But wait my level isn't completed yet... Can i work on my entry during the Publishing Window Days?		2014-04-24 20:01:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Yes, just as long as you publish it before 11:59pm GMT on April 30th.

-hyper		2014-04-24 20:03:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Oh yah! I'm pumped up. But just to let everyone know, I think we are supposed to use the prefix (LBPC12) ;-)2014-04-24 22:17:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

Hello, LBPC crew. I saw in the first post something that says:

"Given the type of gameplay we?re looking for, cutscenes should be avoided apart from a short intro or outro (optional)."

I was wondering why this would effect the grading of the level. My level has a 45 second tutorial and I don't believe it takes away from the game experience. This isn't a problem... IS IT!? 		2014-04-24 23:18:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Oh yah! I'm pumped up. But just to let everyone know, I think we are supposed to use the prefix (LBPC12) ;-)

Thanks for pointing that out! Me and my mistakes these days.

-hyper



I was wondering why this would effect the grading of the level. My level has a 45 second tutorial and I don't believe it takes away from the game experience. This isn't a problem... IS IT!?

Is the tutorial section separate from the main gameplay? If so, i guess it is ok, but if players are forced to watch in the main part I guess it would count as a really long intro. I highly recommend to make it skippable if its needed!

-hyper		2014-04-24 23:31:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Oh yah! I'm pumped up. But just to let everyone know, I think we are supposed to use the prefix (LBPC12) ;-)

Thanks, I fixed that typo




Hello, LBPC crew. I saw in the first post something that says:

"Given the type of gameplay we’re looking for, cutscenes should be avoided apart from a short intro or outro (optional)."

I was wondering why this would effect the grading of the level. My level has a 45 second tutorial and I don't believe it takes away from the game experience. This isn't a problem... IS IT!?

Is your tutorial at the start of the level? That would fit as a short intro.
As to why we asked creators to avoid mid level cutscenes, I'm gonna quote myself
-But feel free to ask for clarification too.


Consider that a good score challenge level should also have good replay value - since a real score seeking player will likely have several goes. First impressions are important, but also look at replay value.

From OP: "Given the type of gameplay we’re looking for, cutscenes should be avoided apart from a short intro or outro (optional)."

We wouldn't disqualify a level for going against this, it's just that after the Eye Candy comp, we're looking for gameplay most of all

Edit: Hyper sniped me!
Yeah, I agree that if possible making a tutorial optional or skippable might be more polished. Do what feels right for the level.		2014-04-24 23:36:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Ok so my tutorial kind of at the beginning of the level. When you start the level you are in a menu where you can tweak some settings, once you're ready you can play. When you press play it forces you to watch the tutorial. After you have watched it once you never have to watch it again before you play the game (I even added memorizer capability so even if you leave you wont need to watch it again!). You can watch it any time in the "extras" menu. I REALLY hope this wont be a problem as it only inconveniences you one time.

EDIT: Also if I made it skippable then some players wouldn't know what to do.

-dolph 		2014-04-25 06:31:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Oh yeah its finally publishing date Dont be to dissapointed about my level. Its a simple race lvl. Was fun to make it2014-04-25 08:17:00

Author:
Sandro8708
Posts: 625

Ok so my tutorial kind of at the beginning of the level. When you start the level you are in a menu where you can tweak some settings, once you're ready you can play. When you press play it forces you to watch the tutorial. After you have watched it once you never have to watch it again before you play the game (I even added memorizer capability so even if you leave you wont need to watch it again!). You can watch it any time in the "extras" menu. I REALLY hope this wont be a problem as it only inconveniences you one time.

EDIT: Also if I made it skippable then some players wouldn't know what to do.

-dolph

Dang-it, your menu sounds way better than my whole level! Maybe you can give me a short memorizer demo after this contest is in the books.


Oh yeah its finally publishing date Dont be to dissapointed about my level. Its a simple race lvl. Was fun to make it

Can’t wait to check it out and don’t worry about anything. If it was FUN to make, then you have already won! There is nothing better than having fun doing something you love. Good luck!		2014-04-25 15:38:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

Can't wait to play all your levels )2014-04-25 16:15:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

Dang-it, your menu sounds way better than my whole level! Maybe you can give me a short memorizer demo after this contest is in the books.

Hahaha that's funny because just the other day I was trying to join you so you could help me with the memorizer! But if you want me to teach you what I know feel free join/inv me anytime :3		2014-04-25 19:51:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

So here's my vita level lets the games begin

Welcome to the CULT point challenge

Can you collect enough points to please the gods.

http://vita.lbp.me/v/ht1hq


Hope you enjoy it


Thanks

Scarybiscuit		2014-04-25 20:22:00

Author:
scarybiscuit
Posts: 106

Okay got some problems to make it, but I still did a level for you.

Its just a simple race with hard platforming. You need finger reflexes and be fast! I hope you enjoy it

http://vita.lbp.me/v/ht8hy

Sandro8708		2014-04-25 21:17:00

Author:
Sandro8708
Posts: 625

Here is my level for the vita i hope there are no glitches and that its enjoyed though i am worried about lag.

http://vita.lbp.me/v/ht9s7		2014-04-25 22:39:00

Author:
Lordwarblade
Posts: 761

Aw man, still working on my Vita level as the first few entries start rolling in. Will do my best to meet the deadline!

The good news is I found a solution to my "dialogue halfway through level" thing by just making it optional. You would not believe how long I spent trying to get the speech bubble to just show up as the "press triangle to read again" prompt, rather than to open automatically. Logic must work slightly differently on LBPV because I'm pretty sure everything I tried would have worked on LBP2 If you're paying attention at the start of the level you'll probably notice how I managed it - not ideal but I wasn't going to resort to using a controlinator or anything weird like that.		2014-04-25 23:13:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Here is my entry. Its called Pointless. Here is the link. http://lbp.me/v/qrjz80q2014-04-26 22:54:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

This might sound stupid but...

Are we allowed to add Race Gates into it as for bonus points? See what i mean... :S		2014-04-27 01:18:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Yes, race gates are allowed.

-hyper		2014-04-27 01:54:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

For the high score challenge pin, what if the level has an absolute maximum high score and several people get the high score before the play contest has even started? Who will get the pin?
I see some people already have gotten the maximum score for shookie's level....it would be unfair if they get awarded the pin...		2014-04-27 02:40:00

Author:
AmazingKittyCat
Posts: 204

Well dolphinsrlame is in the create contest and not the play contest. Not sure about coolman though. And if you check it took them a whole lot of tries to get top score. If it becomes an issue I can always tweak it to allow for higher score for the score contest.2014-04-27 02:54:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

For the high score challenge pin, what if the level has an absolute maximum high score and several people get the high score before the play contest has even started? Who will get the pin?
I see some people already have gotten the maximum score for shookie's level....it would be unfair if they get awarded the pin...

Well we don't even know the rules for the play contest yet. But I think that the player who achieved the maximum score first would most likely be awarded the pin. That just seems logical to me.


Well dolphinsrlame is in the create contest and not the play contest. Not sure about coolman though. And if you check it took them a whole lot of tries to get top score. If it becomes an issue I can always tweak it to allow for higher score for the score contest.

Wait, wait, wait... If I enter the create contest I can't enter the play contest!? Is this an actual rule? I will be extremely disappointed if this is true... And yea it took me 1.5 hrs to get the high score on your level, 42 tries lol

PS: You better not tweak it buddy I cherish my high score xD

EDIT: Ok, so the rules say that if you created one of the shortlisted levels you are not able to compete in the play contest. Does this mean you can't compete in the level you made (which would obviously make sense), or does it mean that you cant compete in any of the shortlisted levels?		2014-04-27 03:42:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Well dolphinsrlame is in the create contest and not the play contest. Not sure about coolman though. And if you check it took them a whole lot of tries to get top score. If it becomes an issue I can always tweak it to allow for higher score for the score contest.

Well, it's kinda unfair that they got the maximum score on like the first day the level was published. Then it's not really related to "skill", it's more related to who happens to be able to play the level earlier....Maybe add a time-based score addition at the end, so someone who finishes faster can get a higher score, and theoretically there won't be an absolute maximum score.		2014-04-27 04:34:00

Author:
AmazingKittyCat
Posts: 204

I am fairly sure the score contest will be point based. Basically by earning a certain spot on the leaderboard you get points based on what place you are in. I highly doubt it will involve when they achieved the high score. If you play my level you will see why there is a maximum score. I assure you that skill is involved and having a race timer will not work in my level because you have to be very careful and rushing through it will be devastating to the score.2014-04-27 04:44:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

I am fairly sure the score contest will be point based. Basically by earning a certain spot on the leaderboard you get points based on what place you are in. I highly doubt it will involve when they achieved the high score. If you play my level you will see why there is a maximum score. I assure you that skill is involved and having a race timer will not work in my level because you have to be very careful and rushing through it will be devastating to the score.
Well having a maximum score kinda ruins the idea of a "point-based contest"....it's really a contest of who has access to their PS3 first... and it isn't too hard to get if coolman100 got it in 24 plays.....and today is just the first day of it being published. So everyone should just give up playing your level now because someone already got the max score?
I'm just suggesting you add a way for people to be able to increase their score right up until the last day of the contest.		2014-04-27 06:13:00

Author:
AmazingKittyCat
Posts: 204

42 tries ??? haa awesome...Guys i would take it easy for now. the play rules are not set in stone yet.

And yes it makes sense that if your shortlisted that it would be much easier for the judges to rule you out of the play contest all together, not just because of an advantage on your own level, but because you will be short a level they would have to play judge you on. dose that make sense? haa..... who knows how many levels they will choose. i would take it easy until they announce it. which could take days until they see what they have to work with...

publishing my level tomorrow night. 		2014-04-27 06:16:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Here it is! Drum roll please... My entry for this contest is Mood Swing. Here is the link. http://lbp.me/v/qrj3dqr
Have fun playing! ;-)		2014-04-27 06:19:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

Well having a maximum score kinda ruins the idea of a "point-based contest"....it's really a contest of who has access to their PS3 first... and it isn't too hard to get if coolman100 got it in 24 plays.....and today is just the first day of it being published. So everyone should just give up playing your level now because someone already got the max score?
I'm just suggesting you add a way for people to be able to increase their score right up until the last day of the contest.
You have no clue whatsoever if my level will even be chosen as one of the levels for the play contest. I understand what you are saying but you clearly don't understand how my level works as far as score is concerned. The player starts with 100,000 points. The goal is to avoid collecting bubbles as they deduct from your score. Additional points are awarded at each checkpoint and after completion of the level to encourage people to keep playing even if they lose a lot of points. I suppose I should delete the level and not enter. According to you I have already lost. Also, it is insanely ridiculous to assume people who have access to their ps3 sooner than others somehow will have an advantage over others. And coolman is one of the best players so 24 plays for him is quite a lot and you don't even know for sure he is entering the play contest.		2014-04-27 13:58:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

We have a cheater in the ''Pointless'' level http://lbp.me/v/qrjz80q/scores2014-04-27 19:05:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

Hey everyone! I finally finished my level, I would love for you to give it a try! http://lbp.me/v/qrj-j-r/reviews thanks! Good luck to everyone in the vita and ps3 competition!2014-04-27 19:08:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Wow, glad to see so much enthusiasm - but the play contest hasn't even started yet! Remember, levels can be changed or even deleted and republished for three more days.

After the create contest has closed, the judges will play all the levels and compile a list of which ones will be used for the play contest. If your level appears in that list, you are still welcome to play all the levels, however you will not be eligible to win the play contest. You can be eligible to win either the create or the play contest, but not both.

When the play contest starts, we'll post the list of levels, the rules, and the deadline. We've had a good discussion on how to make this as fair as possible for everyone 		2014-04-27 19:16:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Please disregard the old link I posted. I had a major scoring glitch. I deleted it and republished it with a race gate as well as a few minor changes to scoring. Sadly it is even harder now but I think that's okay. Here is my new link and hopefully this issue has been resolved. http://lbp.me/v/qrjhc5k2014-04-28 01:27:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

Please disregard the old link I posted. I had a major scoring glitch. I deleted it and republished it with a race gate as well as a few minor changes to scoring. Sadly it is even harder now but I think that's okay. Here is my new link and hopefully this issue has been resolved. http://lbp.me/v/qrjhc5k

Yay, I'll try it when I'm online tonight.		2014-04-28 02:47:00

Author:
AmazingKittyCat
Posts: 204

So I played the first round of entries, and was very entertained. So far, in my unofficial opinion, I'd say there are three published, so far, that stand out from the group. Looking forward to what else ends up being published.

In other news, I wasn't able to make the time to come up with an entry, myself (sad, I know). I'll be saving my ideas for the next contest 		2014-04-28 15:39:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

Wow! I can't wait to play all the of entries, thank you so much to those who participated in the create contest!

Today is the last day to publish your entry as the window closes at 11:59PM GMT tonight! Make sure to have the pre-fix (LBPC12) in your entry's title!

-hyper		2014-04-30 14:46:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

my entry :
http://lbp.me/v/qrh5-pn		2014-04-30 15:56:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

I see people worked hard during my holidays, I'm queuing all these levels right now. As I have no entry for the create contest, maybe I'll stand out on the play part!2014-04-30 16:05:00

Author:
Djibees
Posts: 189

Time to fix stuff again with my level!2014-04-30 20:10:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

From dakky123 (unable to post yesterday): http://vita.lbp.me/v/jvshh

And, this is last call! Get your levels published by midnight GMT, here's a link to show the current time: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com
You can still post your levels links here after the deadline has passed, just be sure not to republish levels anymore after that. Good luck everyone!		2014-04-30 20:40:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

My attempt to make the deadline failed. I?m a failure. Sulks in the corner for five minutes. Blames the contest team for unrealistic timeframe expectations (kidding!). Reboots system. All systems up and running. Enters new deadline date of May 31, year TBD. Go. All good now. Wait? THERMO is not rebooting? OH NO!!!!!!!

Good luck to everyone in the contest and I can?t wait to play all the entries!

The resolution isn't the best, but here are a few pictures from my failed attempt (Exhibit A shows some of my many issues remaining):

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/peoriaspitfire/Marmalade/Marmalade.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/peoriaspitfire/Marmalade/M_paint_star.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/peoriaspitfire/Marmalade/M_planet.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/peoriaspitfire/Marmalade/M_bw_cut.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/peoriaspitfire/Marmalade/M_bw_spiders.jpg

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/peoriaspitfire/Marmalade/M_Exhibit_A.png		2014-04-30 21:20:00

Author:
peoriaspitfire
Posts: 359

This is one funkystache's level:

http://lbp.me/v/qrkyf53

-hyper

EDIT: here is mrmik's level! http://lbp.me/v/qrkzjtw		2014-04-30 22:10:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

http://f2.thejournal.ie/media/2014/01/paniclionking-3.gif

Okay... Time To Panic!		2014-04-30 22:37:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

~PLOT TWIST~

I finished my entry. I bet none of you saw that coming http://sackinima.com/forums/images/smilies/sacks/24.gif

Nothing special but I finished a level omg http://vita.lbp.me/v/hjr4s		2014-04-30 22:45:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

I have no idea what to do now. This is the first time I'm not under the gun to barely finish my level before the deadline. I usually don't even have time to properly test for bugs. This is totally opposite... See what I did there?

Nothing left now but to finish playing all the entries! Good luck to all!		2014-04-30 22:50:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

Solstice Meets 60
That's my entry, I finished this under 24 Hours!
Pew!
http://vita.lbp.me/v/hq1fj

It's short but it challenge-full!

Now i can relax again... 		2014-05-01 00:36:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

There's the end of another great contest! I can't believe I failed to publish, but at least I had fun this time! Anyways, I can't wait to see who will win!

Good luck to everyone who entered and everyone who is planning on participating in the Play portion! 		2014-05-01 01:08:00

Author:
Bryan_Zuckerberg
Posts: 874

Good Luck Everyone!2014-05-01 01:40:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Wow lots of great entries!
And so many styles of play. I feel bad for those entering the play contest : P . this wont be a picnic for them cause the player who comes out on top will be very skilled in many ways. Awesome !! LBPC is going to be responsible in finding one super insane player! haa

Tonight i'm going to get some good sleep finally Good luck everyone.		2014-05-01 04:09:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Ugh! My level doesn't show up when you search "(LBPC12)". PANIC!!!! 2014-05-01 06:34:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Man I couldn't finish my entry on time... That level is surely coming to the Community some time soon but not for this challenge

Anyway the amount of great quality entries in the contest seems pretty good for me! That is quite nice. Good luck for everyone! :kz:		2014-05-01 08:06:00

Author:
yugnar
Posts: 1478

Ugh! My level doesn't show up when you search "(LBPC12)". PANIC!!!!

Don't worry we know about your entry and I'll get hyper to add it to his lbp.me list of entries. But I can see that it would be a shame if you missed out on plays from people wanting to search for the entries themselves on lbp.me, so you have permission to edit the title to see if you can make it show up.		2014-05-01 08:14:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Ugh! My level doesn't show up when you search "(LBPC12)". PANIC!!!!

Your level shows up when search 		2014-05-01 09:40:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

I'll take a look at the lists again tonight and put them here.
-hyper		2014-05-01 12:30:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Your level shows up when search

I just searched lbpc12 on lbp.me and I can confirm his level does not show up.
BUT, when I searched in LBP2 using the in-game search, his level shows up. Weird.		2014-05-01 16:09:00

Author:
AmazingKittyCat
Posts: 204

It is in the list of entries to be played and I added it to the list.

Here is a LBP2 one : http://lbp.me/t/yesb

Here is a LBPV one : http://vita.lbp.me/t/mpq

Let me know if I missed any! Sorry to those who have publish locked or early, I did not include you in the list due to not publishing during the window or the level is being locked.

-hyper		2014-05-01 16:28:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

When are we getting the rules? Later today ?2014-05-01 18:48:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

It is in the list of entries to be played and I added it to the list.

Here is a LBP2 one : http://lbp.me/t/yesb

Here is a LBPV one : http://vita.lbp.me/t/mpq

Let me know if I missed any! Sorry to those who have publish locked or early, I did not include you in the list due to not publishing during the window or the level is being locked.

-hyper

Thanks! <3		2014-05-01 19:57:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281

Thank You... <32014-05-02 03:22:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Man pick the winner quick i wanna get them highscores 2014-05-03 22:31:00

Author:
Five-Ate-Five
Posts: 197

Man pick the winner quick i wanna get them highscores
Same here 		2014-05-03 23:02:00

Author:
p-p-j
Posts: 35

My entry maybe not be perfect but i'm hearing some people say good feedback with my level...
Plus, that was my first platformer i ever done. 		2014-05-04 01:12:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Well I know that the judges are already playing through the levels. Good luck everyone.2014-05-04 02:33:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

I was wondering if the judges have played through all of the levels. May we be allowed to apply adjustments to our levels soon?2014-05-06 03:27:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

I was wondering if the judges have played through all of the levels. May we be allowed to apply adjustments to our levels soon?

Almost twenty four hours and still no answer. Well I am fairly sure all the judges have played through the entries. But I wouldn't make any changes yet. Good luck everyone!		2014-05-07 01:48:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447

@shookie99
yeah i'm assuming that they played through all of them as well and thought i should be a little pain in the buttocks.
: P

No worries i"m not making any changes yet. I will wait patiently for an announcement. They must be in a major debacle. Many good entries.		2014-05-07 02:22:00

Author:
pj15
Posts: 164

Please, no changes until further notice 2014-05-07 06:47:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

Wow! We have some good entries, Although there's not much entries on LBPV. But hey at lease it's a simple competition over there anyways. ;-)2014-05-09 15:33:00

Author:
Tikaki-MooMoo
Posts: 524

Ya great levels! Good luck to everyone!2014-05-10 00:31:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

The play contest has launched!! https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=86610-LBPC12-The-Flip-Side!-Play-Contest!

-hyper		2014-05-10 01:01:00

Author:
hyperdude95
Posts: 1793

Congratulations to all our participants!
If your level is listed as part of the Play Contest, please do not republish until further notice.
If your level is not being used in the Play Contest you are free to make any changes and republish as you like 		2014-05-14 20:24:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838

This contest was an awesome idea. Give yourselves a big pat on the back, contest crew.
The player contest added more excitement and brought more players to the creators levels.		2014-05-18 02:55:00

Author:
one-mad-bunny
Posts: 334

So since the play contest ends tonight....will the results be up sometime tomorrow?2014-05-18 03:57:00

Author:
shookie99
Posts: 447


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