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This is a serious topic, the title is to catch your attention. This happened in real life. Basically i'm getting thrown off school for no reason at all. Let's compare some things. About two months ago, i was at school, and everything was normal. In the break everyone went outside to have fun and things. Benjamin, a kid from my class, who loves to take photos by the way, took his camera out and started photographing everyone. He found it looked fun when you'd photograph something moving, so everyone decided to go do stuff to get photographed. Shaking hair, jumping off of fences, that sorta stuff. Tim, another kid from my class who hates everything and everyone, and i believe has a disorder or how you call it, was just playing soccer right next to us. I thought it'd look fun if we'd photograph someone head-kicking the football into the goal that was standing in the field. I asked Tim if i could get the ball, first he was like "no!". Then he decided he'd just throw the ball at my face a million times, and as an excuse, "you said you wanted the ball!". And yeah, he was pretty good at hitting... Finally i catched the ball and to make it stop, i threw the ball onto a building. Turned out it was Ben's football. "That's going to cost you 5 euros! Those people definitely won't give it back.". I had 5 euros with me, but that was if my bus card ran out of money. I couldn't give it to him at the moment, but we still needed a solution. I decided to run back inside the school building and tell a teacher what happened. Tim had the same idea. I was sure that the first one to tell had a more striking position than the second, so i quickly ran to the doors. There's two doors to get inside the building, one to the hall, one to the lockers and from there to the hall. The first one was locked, which i knew, but Tim forgot. I ran to the lockers, when i was opening the door, Tim kicked me in the legs, making him able to get to the teachers in time. Even faster, i ran after him and when he got to the teachers i gave him a push. He turned around and started bashing my face in, millions of times, until my nose bled. The teachers had to push him on the ground and drag him away to stop him from raging and attacking. Tim got a suspension for one week. Now, about a month ago after the christmas holidays, i went to school again, Tim was sick that day so he didn't come to school. I got better at not being distracted whilst learning, and everything just went fine. The work i had to do on that day was finished even before 12! I was really happy with how fast i learned. In the evening we have drama lessons which we get to pass the time, but the teacher for that was a bit late. We had to wait a bit longer before we'd do drama lessons and go back home after that. Apparently, everyone was "learning" in the evening too, which is just complete nonsense. As i had my work done already, i didn't want to learn even more. The rest of the class, which half of them was just doing other crap and NOT learning, were just complaining to the teachers about how i had to just do a bit more work because apparently, these people that first were annoyed with how i wasn't learning, were now annoyed with how i studied so well today, that i didn't need to do more work. They felt like they were treated differently than me, and couldn't stand it. Complete nonsense ofcourse, as i went to sit next to a girl in the class who was just checking pictures on her Facebook, which no-one complained about at all. Not even the teachers! What do i get for this accomplishment? I'M GETTING THROWN OFF OF SCHOOL. A bit odd for a school that says they give everyone the chances they need, right? I'm seriously disgusted.

2014-02-10 11:42:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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Stop making these threads. Only Jaquan does these threads justice.

2014-02-10 20:01:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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... As i said, the title was just to get attention and to fit in with the trend. I'm not kidding when i say that this actually happened.

2014-02-10 20:05:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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Stop making these threads. Only Jaquan does these threads justice. Despite any possible truth this post may hold, which I won't debate for or against, I still find this comment extremely narrow-minded and stupid. I hope you too realize that what you are doing here is basically telling someone that they shouldn't contribute something of their own to the community because they do not do, by some idiotic qualifications by no-one, "justice". And that is bad. That is really, reaaaaally bad, not only on conceptual level, but in reality as well. To be honest, none of those "Why do I suck" threads by Jaquan are either fascinating or interesting in the simplest of ways and the only way they even slightly entertain me is with their common concept of a person who sucks at pretty much everything. I won't hold it against this thread and while I think misusing the title to provoke attention is cheap, it seems like a necessity to make an interesting thread. At least I see it could seem like that to someone. Before you go ahead and judge Wouter for naming his thread in this way (which is absolutely fair as people are allowed name their threads whatever they like), you might want to take in consideration that maybe the reason for that is that you and many others (myself included) have brought an unnecessary amount of hype to these threads which seem much more spammy than what usually winds up in General Chat section. I don't know what you think, but maybe we should tone down with these threads in the general chat section, okay? --- Anyway, while I can not contribute with personal experience as school system in Finland is pretty awesome overall, I have to say that there are some certain countries out there which would seem pretty good on a basic level but are pretty effed up with their educational systems. Oh, as if I needed to name an example. As. If.

2014-02-10 20:42:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Despite any possible truth this post may hold, which I won't debate for or against, I still find this comment extremely narrow-minded and stupid. I hope you too realize that what you are doing here is basically telling someone that they shouldn't contribute something of their own to the community because they do not do, by some idiotic qualifications by no-one, "justice". And that is bad. That is really, reaaaaally bad, not only on conceptual level, but in reality as well. To be honest, none of those "Why do I suck" threads by Jaquan are either fascinating or interesting in the simplest of ways and the only way they even slightly entertain me is with their common concept of a person who sucks at pretty much everything. I won't hold it against this thread and while I think misusing the title to provoke attention is cheap, it seems like a necessity to make an interesting thread. At least I see it could seem like that to someone. Before you go ahead and judge Wouter for naming his thread in this way (which is absolutely fair as people are allowed name their threads whatever they like), you might want to take in consideration that maybe the reason for that is that you and many others (myself included) have brought an unnecessary amount of hype to these threads which seem much more spammy than what usually winds up in General Chat section. I don't know what you think, but maybe we should tone down with these threads in the general chat section, okay? --- Anyway, while I can not contribute with personal experience as school system in Finland is pretty awesome overall, I have to say that there are some certain countries out there which would seem pretty good on a basic level but are pretty effed up with their educational systems. Oh, as if I needed to name an example. As. If. Note to self: Sarcasm does not work over text and will lead to Freeaim giving a very interesting and intellectual lecture.

2014-02-10 21:33:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Note to self: Sarcasm does not work over text and will lead to Freeaim giving a very interesting and intellectual lecture. Oh yeah, it's not as if we made a deal about a specific font being used in case of sarcasm in the past or something.

2014-02-10 21:48:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Can you please stop debating about the title and rather start debating about the content of this topic?

2014-02-10 22:01:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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First: Calm down all of you. If I knew that a few fun threads would actually be cause of a few issues, i'd have never posted the **** things. Loosen up. Second: I take school seriously but in the later year of public education, it can be a drag. Go to someone who can actually help the situation and in the future, keep your nose down and focus on yourself. You don't have the power to change anything yet.

2014-02-10 22:16:00 Author: Jaquan1254 Posts: 49

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What do you mean by throw you out of school?

2014-02-10 22:18:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872

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I'm assuming suspension.

2014-02-10 22:19:00 Author: Jaquan1254 Posts: 49

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Yeah, well they're going to just suspend me forever because "wouter doesnt like school". Who ever liked school? Really? I'll also say that i'm only having extra lessons from the stuff i do at home (i'm homeschooled) on Thursday at the school, and it's somewhat a spiritual/free school because it fits more with my mom. Which means everything's a bit more loose than at other schools, if you were thinking it was a very strict serious school.

2014-02-10 22:38:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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Well that sucks. these people that first were annoyed with how i wasn't learning, were now annoyed with how i studied so well today, that i didn't need to do more work. They felt like they were treated differently than me, and couldn't stand it So you're getting expelled because you're an over achiever and other people can't stand that? Well that's a bizarre reason for getting expelled.

2014-02-10 23:11:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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Well basically, that. Everyone was like "OH ITS SO UNFAIR THAT HE ISNT LEARNING BECAUSE WE ALL ARE, DEFINITELY NOT LYING!!!". I remember someone in my class a while ago that also had her work finished before 12 once, and she could already go home because she was done already. And now everyone was mad because of this...

2014-02-11 10:19:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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A bit odd for a school that says they give everyone the chances they need, right? While you say it's ostensibly a religious school, perhaps you represent an unknown quantity as a homeschooled student in terms of exam results or some other metric. Depending on the political situation at the school they may simply want to drop you, trumping whatever their moral mission is. There's likely stuff you're not telling us since it's weird to exclude (excommunicate?) you for refusing to work in a single lesson, but I don't really want to read more about Tim or Facebook Girl. Unless you want to pursue higher education or a particular job that requires it, your time in school is meaningless to the point that it'll become barely a footnote on your resume, don't worry about it. I'm seriously disgusted. Get ready for a lifetime dose of the same from your employers and colleagues.

2014-02-11 12:06:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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This sucks. Im sorry man.

2014-02-11 23:22:00 Author: Seant1228 Posts: 348

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I think i said it already, but i sent the school a mail expressing my thoughts on the situation, and asking if i could come for a talk. They FINALLY replied. I've been signed out of the school, and it won't change, but they DO want to have a conversation.

2014-02-20 10:28:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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In 40 years time swing by a fast food place, and say hello to them as they serve you at the counter. That may offend fast food restaurant employees, I apologise.

2014-02-20 13:52:00 Author: Ironface Posts: 432

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I think i said it already, but i sent the school a mail expressing my thoughts on the situation, and asking if i could come for a talk. They FINALLY replied. I've been signed out of the school, and it won't change, but they DO want to have a conversation. So you got expelled for being a victim. That's horrible. It's horrible to imagine punishing victims of anything bad for being victims.

2014-02-20 14:47:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408

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Okay, firstly, you were beaten up by a kid who got suspended. Then, you got expelled...for refusing to learn. What do the two have to do with each other? These are two completely different stories. Did one influence the other? Did the first event lead the school to think that you have violent tendencies and the second event just gave them more reason to expel you? This is an additional school to your homeschool, but is it a private school? If so, they can kick you out whenever they like, provided the government doesn't have their probes in things. You were nearly incoherent in the second story. The first one was incoherent as well, but the second is most relevant so I'll only ask for clarifications on it. Tim was sick that day so he didn't come to school. I got better at not being distracted whilst learning, and everything just went fine. The work i had to do on that day was finished even before 12! I was really happy with how fast i learned. In the evening we have drama lessons which we get to pass the time, but the teacher for that was a bit late. We had to wait a bit longer before we'd do drama lessons and go back home after that. Apparently, everyone was "learning" in the evening too, which is just complete nonsense. This makes no sense! If you aren't that great with English, I'm sorry, but you can't expect people to understand you when you write like this. Was Tim seriously so awful that you were able to learn super fast without him? What did he do before, throw tomatoes at you while the teacher wasn't looking? Why was the teacher being late relevant to this story? Why is it nonsense to learn in the evening? Was the "learning" being done while the teacher was there, or not? By the way, I think you mean the "afternoon," instead of the "evening." As i had my work done already, i didn't want to learn even more. The rest of the class, which half of them was just doing other crap and NOT learning, were just complaining to the teachers about how i had to just do a bit more work because apparently, these people that first were annoyed with how i wasn't learning, were now annoyed with how i studied so well today, that i didn't need to do more work. What were you even learning in the afternoon? Was it the same thing you were learning in the morning? If it was drama lessons, then how did you do it in the morning if you were meant to learn it in the afternoon? Did you get all your drama work at the start of school and finish it by noon? Why would the school give you work for lessons it hasn't even taught you yet? If it was the same work as in the morning, then why did you have to learn it again? Was all the pre-drama work put on you at the beginning, and you were meant to work on it right through the drama lesson while you were being taught the drama? Or were you meant to work on you pre-drama work when the drama teacher was running late? Also, how is it possible that half the class isn't learning, and yet your classmates only tell on you? Are you hated by the class or something? I find it doubtful that you were just so elated by Tim's absence that you were able to bulldoze through all your pre-drama or drama (you never specify) work, and everybody else wasn't as fast as you. It makes even less sense that those people who weren't as fast as you, half of them not even working anyway, decided to all gang up and try to get you in trouble for not working. Again, are you hated by this class? They felt like they were treated differently than me, and couldn't stand it. Complete nonsense ofcourse, as i went to sit next to a girl in the class who was just checking pictures on her Facebook, which no-one complained about at all. Not even the teachers! What do i get for this accomplishment? I'M GETTING THROWN OFF OF SCHOOL. Okay, you said teachers. That means that either you are taught by multiple people at the same time for each lesson, or your pre-drama teacher hasn't left and your drama teacher has arrived. Again, was or wasn't the drama teacher there? Also, you leave out a lot of stuff. You jump right from your classmates trying to get the teachers to give you more work to you getting kicked out. Wut. Also, you write: Apparently, everyone was "learning" in the evening too, which is just complete nonsense. but then you write: The rest of the class, which half of them was just doing other crap and NOT learning, Everyone was learning...except for half of everyone. Makes perfect sense. So let me get this straight. I'm making a huge amount of assumptions here to try to cover the holes in your story, so if this is wrong, it's entirely your fault: -You got beat up by a kid. -You had Christmas break. -Kid that beat you up was gone on first day back, allowing you to hyper-focus and get all your pre-drama work done by noon, while everybody else didn't have their work done. -In the afternoon, you have drama lessons, but the teacher was late. -While the teacher is late, half the class is still doing their pre-drama work, and the other half is just goofing off. -All of your classmates, regardless of whether they're working or not, get mad at you for not working, and try to get the teacher to give you more work. -You get kicked out...for some reason. I think you're leaving out crucial details that would help us to understand this situation, probably details that wouldn't paint you in a positive light. It just wouldn't make sense for these events to happen.

2014-02-20 18:56:00 Author: Kalawishis Posts: 928

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-You got beat up by a kid. -You had Christmas break. -Kid that beat you up was gone on first day back, allowing you to hyper-focus and get all your pre-drama work done by noon, while everybody else didn't have their work done. -In the afternoon, you have drama lessons, but the teacher was late. -While the teacher is late, half the class is still doing their pre-drama work, and the other half is just goofing off. -All of your classmates, regardless of whether they're working or not, get mad at you for not working, and try to get the teacher to give you more work. -You get kicked out...for some reason. -I got beat up by a kid. -I had christmas break, and a talk at school about the "problems" i had at school. I promised to do my best and i did. -Yes, the kid was gone that day. Not really any reason for me to perform better, although i did do that though. The teachers said it themselves. Drama lessons are rather activities to do in the evening/afternoon. The other stuff is just normal homework and that stuff. -The teacher was late, meaning that we apparently have more time for learning (as i said, apparently. Most kids in my class usually in these situations proceed to just do random crap such as checking their FB or watching a movie in a language they're learning). -In that time, indeed half of the class was just doing nothing, pretending that they were. -And everyone got mad. Even some people that were doing nothing themselves, they just went with the cool kid who stood up against me first. They didn't get the teacher to give me extra work though, they just wanted me or the teacher to get me to, well, do stuff. -And i got kicked out... for some reason. I can understand that i might have done SOMETHING wrong, but they won't explain what. Anyway it's still not a reason to get me expelled. Definitely not if you see what other people have done wrong and what punishments they got.

2014-02-21 13:20:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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-I got beat up by a kid. -I had christmas break, and a talk at school about the "problems" i had at school. I promised to do my best and i did. -Yes, the kid was gone that day. Not really any reason for me to perform better, although i did do that though. The teachers said it themselves. Drama lessons are rather activities to do in the evening/afternoon. The other stuff is just normal homework and that stuff. -The teacher was late, meaning that we apparently have more time for learning (as i said, apparently. Most kids in my class usually in these situations proceed to just do random crap such as checking their FB or watching a movie in a language they're learning). -In that time, indeed half of the class was just doing nothing, pretending that they were. -And everyone got mad. Even some people that were doing nothing themselves, they just went with the cool kid who stood up against me first. They didn't get the teacher to give me extra work though, they just wanted me or the teacher to get me to, well, do stuff. -And i got kicked out... for some reason. I can understand that i might have done SOMETHING wrong, but they won't explain what. Anyway it's still not a reason to get me expelled. Definitely not if you see what other people have done wrong and what punishments they got. Thanks for the clarifications, but I still can't tell you anything since the logic of this story seems so flawed. I can slightly grasp the idea of a popular classmate picking on you and getting the class to join in, but the idea of a school kicking you out for such a small reason, then refusing to tell you why, makes no sense. Either you're in a Franz Kafka book, or you're hiding something.

2014-02-22 05:13:00 Author: Kalawishis Posts: 928

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Well i've been sick for the other three days in the month that i should have gone to school, which apparently was a sign for the school leaders that i didn't like it there. And the last-last time i went to school, everyone was generally mad at me at drama, because we had to develop a story for a play and i was constantly adding in stuff about the moon, as like "what should the bad guy do?" "HE SHOULD BLOW UP DA MOON!!!", "what place does the scene take place in?" "THE MOON!!!!" and so on. I understood it was a problem, so i did my best not to be annoying and busy, which last time i wasn't. Thing is, that everyone else is doing the same, especially Tim as you might understand, so that's basically the thing that bothered me the whole time. Why me, whilst the others are the REAL problem?

2014-02-24 12:01:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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-And i got kicked out... for some reason. I can understand that i might have done SOMETHING wrong, but they won't explain what. Anyway it's still not a reason to get me expelled. Definitely not if you see what other people have done wrong and what punishments they got. Were you expelled for being a victim to bullying, or was it because of something else? I don't believe in punishing victims unless if they were up to something bad. But if it was because they are victims, then that's not fair. If you were expelled for being a victim, then you didn't deserve it. If you weren't, what did you think got you expelled? Thing is, that everyone else is doing the same, especially Tim as you might understand, so that's basically the thing that bothered me the whole time. Why me, whilst the others are the REAL problem? Trust me. Public school below college is very bad, especially here in America. Teachers are stricter in public school, more pressure is put onto those who learn because of the schedule and homework policies, and bullying is a lot worse. They may discourage misbehaved students for misbehaving, but there's no choice, so they have to cope with them. Therefore, public school is bad.

2014-02-24 15:45:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408

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Well it mostly feels like i've been expelled for getting bullied, which is obviously not why i got expelled. The people at school have their own reasons, which are mostly just bull though.

2014-02-25 21:39:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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Well it mostly feels like i've been expelled for getting bullied, which is obviously not why i got expelled. The people at school have their own reasons, which are mostly just bull though. When I bring up the "punishing victims for being victims" part, I was exaggerating on how victims get punished just as much as the offender (bully, thug, criminal etc.) or even punished more than the offender. That's what it feels like, but that's not the case. They'll think the victim was up to something bad, or they'll punish the victim for "false reporting" (which is actually telling the truth, but they doubt it). Expulsion could be a penalty for opposing bullying when the school is trying to protect it or encourage it. Other times, the bully makes a false side of the story to get the victim in trouble, or the principal doesn't believe the victim, and punished him/her for reporting. All three cases I mentioned are still very unjust. I'm sorry that you were unjustly expelled from school.

2014-02-26 18:55:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408

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Well they definitely thought that i was the victim and i wasn't up to anything bad. They also treated Tim like he was the one that did something bad, they pushed him down to the ground and had him dragged away, yet the teachers all came to me to help.

2014-02-26 19:25:00 Author: Woutery Posts: 793

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Meh. At my old school, just getting into a fight got both participants expelled, no matter who started it.

2014-02-26 20:57:00 Author: AmazingKittyCat Posts: 204

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Meh. At my old school, just getting into a fight got both participants expelled, no matter who started it. Wow. That's very strict.

2014-02-26 21:21:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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