Archive: 21 posts

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I'm tired of seeing p4p levels taking up the trending list or practically every other list. It's almost impossible to find nice levels anymore. Now even LBP vita is filled with this trash. Also people who engage in "h4h" should be banned as well but at least that's tolerable.

2014-01-01 15:12:00 Author: AmazingKittyCat Posts: 204

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Well.. you have a right to your opinion, but what you wish isn't going to happen. What you have possibly failed to realize is the age group of those that participate in either P4P or H4H. There are players as young as 3 playing LBP and that younger age group from 3 - 10 is probably who make up the most of who play LBP. Those are the majority of the age that play the P4P or H4H. They just don't know any better. They have seen others do it and think that is the way it is done. Most of those levels are nothing we are really interested in. However, they are fun for them and let them have their fun. Much like little kids playing tag on a tennis court, not realizing what a cool game could be played there. Here at LBPC, we take LBP more seriously as a creation media and have much higher standards. We strive to exceed and inspire, where others might be satisfied with whatever they slap together. Which is why we have our Level Showcase open to all members to post their levels, get amazing feedback and help them improve as creators. Many have gone on to get LBPC Spotlights and also Mm picks or Team Picks. So ignore those levels and use either the Level Showcase or the labor of love via our hard working Spotlight team and queue up the ones in the LBPC Spotlights. There are tons of them!

2014-01-01 15:46:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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Well they could at least implement something that automatically checks the name of your level when you publish it....if it contains "p4p" or "h4h" it won't allow you to publish the level...I've never seen a legit level with those 3 letters in the title in that exact order. And if there are no levels with those titles, people can't search for those levels, and they won't get on any lists. I know this won't happen, but I wonder how many minutes it would take to implement this....like a few lines of code Yes the Spotlight team is wonderful at picking nice levels, but I'm sure there's hundreds or thousands of amazing levels hidden underneath all the other ones...

2014-01-01 16:04:00 Author: AmazingKittyCat Posts: 204

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You still don't get it. What the heck does it matter what they publish? A kid can publish a misshapen sponge bob in an empty level with a scoreboard and a ton of bubbles. These are young kids! A pile of whipped cream that fell on the floor might look tasty to them. So what? Simply this. You have decerning tastes... they don't, but they still have the right to publish what they want as long as it abides by the EULA. Just ignore them.

2014-01-01 17:08:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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You still don't get it. What the heck does it matter what they publish? A kid can publish a misshapen sponge bob in an empty level with a scoreboard and a ton of bubbles. These are young kids! A pile of whipped cream that fell on the floor might look tasty to them. So what? Do you know why most of the players are young kids? Because we make no attempt to filter the trash that gets published. I remember just a few years ago, most of the players were teens or adults...now any adult that is not a creator will certainly stop playing this game as soon as they connect online and click on the big lucky dip button... I love your condescending attitude by the way.... Go ahead and shoot down my opinion again because "they're kids and don't know any better." You're only hurting creators like yourself and others. I have nothing else to say.

2014-01-01 17:36:00 Author: AmazingKittyCat Posts: 204

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No.. because they enjoy a cute game and their parents bought it for them. lol Who are we to judge what gets on what list? Heck.. did your parents ever stick one of your early crayon drawings on the fridge when you were a kid? Why did they do that? Because it rivaled the great artists of all time? Doubtful. They were proud of what you accomplished. Just ignore them.. Next you will start crying foul at sidewalk and driveway chalk drawings. lol As far as hurting creators? Nope.. that is why fan sites like LBPC are so important to those that are more serious about their creations. Make use of it and the tools we have here.

2014-01-01 17:51:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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Well, I see both sides of this, and a good compromise would be to be able to filter out phrases in titles, and that would allow freedoms on both sides, so for instance if you are tired of mortal kombat levels you could filter out those 2 words, and it would leave freedom for those who wish to play them

2014-01-02 01:46:00 Author: amiel445566 Posts: 664

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Well, I see both sides of this, and a good compromise would be to be able to filter out phrases in titles, and that would allow freedoms on both sides, so for instance if you are tired of mortal kombat levels you could filter out those 2 words, and it would leave freedom for those who wish to play them As good as that would be wouldn't it remove legit levels with the word 'Mortal' or 'Kombat' in the title, although I doubt there is any actually levels. I think levels with titles as what is in discussion should not be able to appear on lists such as 'Lucky dip' or formerly what used to exist as the 'Cool Pages'. This would allow for more levels with real time and effort put into them to become furthermore noticed by the community. The spam should be able to come up in the search results but not through 'Lucky Dip' because that is what they want. A better idea would be to have a 'Recommended Creations' category where legit levels are recommended by players and developers. Of course this would eventually maybe become overweight with 'P4P' and 'H4H' if people found a way to manipulate it. The way players can recommend the level is through verified voting accounts of sorts or something else. Obviously there is solutions out there they just need to be thought of. Scott.

2014-01-02 07:23:00 Author: SEWO97 Posts: 637

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People who publish "P4P" levels should be banned Yeah, how dare they.

2014-01-03 05:58:00 Author: Kalawishis Posts: 928

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Do you know why most of the players are young kids? Because the choice of games available for kids is quite limited.

2014-01-03 15:51:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Because the choice of games available for kids is quite limited. Slightly true but don't forget that most parents allow their children to play games much older than what they should be playing. For example as a younger child being about 9 or so (note I am now 16) I played Grand Theft Auto with many friends, going on killing sprees on San Andreas together. It could just be my parents and there awful decisions to allow me to play these games but I know a lot of people play violent games. I recently sold my games to my mothers friend. Her sons are 11 and 13 I believe, one included was Saw, if you have seen a film you would know why I use this example. Anyways I am unsure why I ended up writing that paragraph but it is there now. I think that there is a high variety of games available. From LBP to Minecraft, Skylanders, LEGO games, most Nintendo games developed exclusively for them e.g. Sonic (some games I believe but I am unsure about exclusivity), Mario. I can go on but being as tired as I am I cannot honestly be bothered. Scott.

2014-01-03 20:46:00 Author: SEWO97 Posts: 637

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What needs to happen is the game cant let you publish something unless the level is halve full of memory. This would cut down on publishing empty levels or levels with hardly any purpose. Also flagging levels should be also added that arent actual levels. This way LBP Community team can remove them from the data servers. LBP has 1~10mil levels sure.. but thats alot of memory they need to save. 90% of them are empty or useless levels.

2014-01-08 09:20:00 Author: venat Posts: 715

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What needs to happen is the game cant let you publish something unless the level is halve full of memory. This would cut down on publishing empty levels or levels with hardly any purpose. Also flagging levels should be also added that arent actual levels. This way LBP Community team can remove them from the data servers. LBP has 1~10mil levels sure.. but thats alot of memory they need to save. 90% of them are empty or useless levels. Well...even big levels can have less than half of the thermo full....especially if the creator uses the emit/destroy technique a lot. And the flagging thing could be abused.

2014-01-08 14:33:00 Author: AmazingKittyCat Posts: 204

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I think LBP is a wonderful game for young children and it's perfectly fine for them to play around like the fun loving children they are as long as they play nice. If anything, I think it's the grown ups and wannabe grown ups that are trying to get in their way. Very little upsets me more than when I see a bunch of grown men complaining on a children's game that the "brats" should get out of their way. I've seen it from youtube comments to people's profiles and it's nonsense. I love playing with children much younger than me and just seeing what they do and why they do it, because you see I love children so much, and I'd hate to see them be stopped from playing the community simply because they didn't match the standards of skill needed to be there. I've seen it happen on Minecraft and I would rather die then see it happen to LBP too. ...Well, sure that had little to do with the p4p idea, but still I just wanted to get that off my chest. UoU!

2014-01-08 22:29:00 Author: Mymagic1212 Posts: 85

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Well...even big levels can have less than half of the thermo full....especially if the creator uses the emit/destroy technique a lot. And the flagging thing could be abused. Exactly... Plus there are a ton of tutorials, sticker and costume levels that probably are well below half. All that rule would do would be everyone stuff tons more junk in their level so it is over half, loads slower, and adds more file space to the server. ..and yup, the flagging empty levels would be horribly abused and only cause some poor group to manage a queue of thousands of flagged levels. Could you imagine that task? Personally, I get my best level referrals from LBPC Spotlights and who I have hearted on LBP.me to see what they have hearted, commented on and played.

2014-01-08 22:31:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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Now what in the world is play-for-play good for anyway? Feedback-for-feedback is one of the best things ever, queue-for-queue can go either way, but I would never participate in it because it is uncertain, heart-for-heart is basically useless but I have learned not to care about it... but play-for-play? So you get an extra number after the running sackboy? I don't give a flying poo about that number anyway, so why does somebody else? Does anybody here actually care if their level has 3781 plays or 3782? You would have to do play-for-play thousands of times before anything significant would happen, but even that'd mean that if a play-for-play level was played by 2129 people, they'd have to play, what-- over two-thousand levels? This is honestly among the top 10 useless and dumbest things I have ever heard/seen. Ever.

2014-01-08 23:10:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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I agree... F4F is awesomesauce with extra awesome sprinkles on top.

2014-01-09 01:14:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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I'm all for a filter but banning people for labeling something "P4P" is silly/extreme. All I ever seen is "mortal combat" "p4p" and "slender" levels in the "cool levels section" so the option to filter out the trash/filler would be more than welcomed.

2014-01-09 21:22:00 Author: catsand Posts: 201

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What needs to happen is the game cant let you publish something unless the level is halve full of memory. Levels that occupy a slither of thermo but are still entertaining are ninja tier. I get off on optimising levels so they load as fast as possible, so you'd be robbing me of a lot of joy.

2014-01-10 22:37:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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You can't ban players just because of their opinion. I know that there are lots of people that hate the h4h or l4l and I'm one of them but there is no reason to ban them for it. I think there should just be some filters for it. For example, when you go onto lucky dip or cool levels, the first thing you see is shark survival or free costume that are from little big planet 1. It should be filtered automatically for a copied level because the players have no ownership over it as they have just clicked a few buttons and published it with a comment that will get them famous. I think it would be possible to automatically remove them since players put no effort into editting the title, description or tags. But don't just take away all the fun from another age group because it's bothering you. My best solution would be to create a filter that puts the copied P4P levels into another list known as the MiniGame Pages (As nearly all of them are bomb survivals) and another page for the platformers.

2014-08-19 12:06:00 Author: ThomasMurphy67 Posts: 9

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Nice post, but please look at the last post date before posting. In this case it was January.

2014-08-19 15:35:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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