Archive: 15 posts

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Long term players will know that the option to Boo a level has been removed, which I personally think is a good idea. I am now wondering if they will remove the option to Boo reviews. When someone writes you a lovely review and suddenly gains boos, it is kinda hurting to the player writing it and the creator of the level. If someone writes a creul comment then it can be deleted, why have the boo option?

2013-12-29 16:39:00 Author: Townzee Posts: 157

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"Nobody should take some frowny faces that close to heart." That's what I said when they removed the option to boo levels and that's what I think about removing the option to boo reviews. Actually I think they should remove the yay/boo system completely and go back to the old star-based rating system. Even if people would only give five stars or none at all, it would show an average rating which looks nicer than an exact number of how many people liked or disliked the level or review.

2013-12-29 20:01:00 Author: Chdonga Posts: 388

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I think the system as it stands is good. People don't seem to consider that if a young person spends dozens of hours pouring their heart into a level, which is then boo'd upon arrival, as it isn't to someone's taste, that can be soul crushing. Some people do take it to heart, everyone is different, and a simple thumbs down isn't in any way constructive, it is only destructive and I'm glad they did away with it. As for whether the same should be applied to level reviews, that's a little more difficult.

2013-12-29 20:40:00 Author: LieutenantFatman Posts: 465

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I think that people need to learn to take criticism, and so the boo button should return. If enough players go through a level, it will usually be clear whether it's a good level or not since "yay"s will in most cases outnumber "nays." It was similar to youtube's current rating system. Yes, there will be unfair criticism, but I think the valid "nays" are invaluable, and to remove them is to make the rating system less effective.

2013-12-30 01:07:00 Author: synchronizer Posts: 287

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Really good feedback, very differant responses too. I can kind of agree witg them all if im honest. Sadly I take to heart when recieving a boo, I can get many a yay but the one boo will stick in my head, like others I can imagine. I myself have pressed the boo, only on something non constructive and negitive toward the creator. Eg "Sucks" Sometimes I feel people kind of abuse the boo review button and feel it may end up going. But great valid points you guys made

2013-12-30 05:16:00 Author: Townzee Posts: 157

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I know that many levels are completely filled with amazing reviews, to an amazing level - and yet all the reviews had equally "boos" and "yays". Then I realized that some of the reviewers were actually competing against the other good reviews. They tried to get the top position for actually, no reason at all. This happened to so many levels and it made me so angry, that I commented on the level: "Why would you spend time on booing other good reviews to get your own review as top-review?? Unless you completely disagree with the good review." This makes no sense to me, and I know there's no good solution on this. I like having the option to boo reviews, as some are very bad, and doesn't even relate to the level. Maybe the developers could make some sort of system that required the player that wanted to "boo" a level review, describe why he/she disagreed. But that wouldn't stop the player. I would really like if they brought back the "boo" button. But as a condition of booing, you HAVE to write a review. This would stop many players, as many doesn't care about writing reviews. I don't know any actual good solution, but this is very annoying. I remember the good ol' times, when players would just play the game, and minded their own business without being rude. But that's just my opinion. -- Jauw

2013-12-30 15:59:00 Author: Jauw Posts: 484

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I agree that the nay button should be restored so long as naysayers are required to write reviews. It sounds like a fair compromise. Without a nay button, the rating system almost acts as a second heart system, which makes it redundant.

2013-12-30 21:08:00 Author: synchronizer Posts: 287

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A "boo" is always more upsetting than "not a yay". Also, the Stars system was not the best either, because in the old times of LBP1, people spammed the X button to go through the reviews and play another level ASAP, resulting in posting (sometimes unintentionally) 0 or 5 stars for every level. In the end, all the reviews lead to a bell curve that had no more value than choosing a level randomly. In every kind of election, we have haters and lovers, who hate or love things for good or bad reasons (wanting to be the first in the comments, voting the opposite of everybody else, etc.). So the problem is not in the voting system, it's in the players. There is no good voting system because eventually, it all relies on subjectives reasons. The solution is more into educating the players to be honest and not trying to catch attention for bad reasons, but it's hard when we have 5000+ years of pride history behind us.

2013-12-30 22:18:00 Author: Djibees Posts: 189

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Well at the end of the day all rating systems are just simply saying 1 thing would you recommend the level, Yays and boos made it simple by giving a yes or no answer (They could have choose a more friendly selection) and honestly removing it hasn't changed anything as people just go to comments which are often much more hurtful. Yeah it is dishearting to see that 1 solo boo on your level but that is life and protecting people from disappointment is just redicilous. 5 stars would just result in 70% of all levels having 3 stars. 4 stars well then your just going to be basically back to having a yes, no scenerio little point there, and as for just Yays it is worthless, a level with 5 yays and 20 plays means what 1/4 of the players were bother to vote. While if you saw 9 Yays and 1 Boo, you know only 5% of the people who played your level didn't like it. When I see someone playing my level now and don't Yay I automatically think oh they didn't like it when before I knew for sure. Honestly if they are not going to have an option for not liking something along with liking something, There is no point having a rating system to begin with because there is nothing to compare it too. 346 Yays means nothing at all. You could work out a Yay to play ratio but the people who played the level may not dislike the level just not bother rating it as there isn't much point to it.

2014-04-11 04:04:00 Author: Jonarrthan Posts: 310

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I would really like if they brought back the "boo" button. But as a condition of booing, you HAVE to write a review. This would stop many players, as many doesn't care about writing reviews. But then players could simply say "." to pass the boo through, all though I do agree in bringing back booing

2014-08-08 00:22:00 Author: minecrafter0482 Posts: 82

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Why bump this thread?

2014-08-08 05:11:00 Author: Tynz21 Posts: 544

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The LBP3 suggestion thread has a thread for this, I think it's more appropriate there as it's more active and recent.

2014-08-08 16:23:00 Author: wally-217 Posts: 521

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The thing is is that without a boo, its not a compete rating system, and half a system is no system at all. its more of a "LIKE IT OR LEAVE!" kinda deal. The boo was just a simply way of saying "not good to me" and if people get upset over a kids game, they should either A. get out more or B. realize that its just a game and should get over it. (and before someone replies saying "what about big groups of trolls?" it would take atleast a few hundred to put atleast a dent in it. ) sorry for sounding harsh.

2014-08-14 07:41:00 Author: XX_sonicfan_XX Posts: 265

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The thing is is that without a boo, its not a compete rating system, and half a system is no system at all. its more of a "LIKE IT OR LEAVE!" kinda deal. The boo was just a simply way of saying "not good to me" and if people get upset over a kids game, they should either A. get out more or B. realize that its just a game and should get over it. (and before someone replies saying "what about big groups of trolls?" it would take atleast a few hundred to put atleast a dent in it. ) sorry for sounding harsh. I think this is one of the first things were argreed on. Personally I think it should just be an option between yays and boos. IF you can't take negative critism just disable ratings entirely.

2014-08-14 14:30:00 Author: Jonarrthan Posts: 310

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I think this is one of the first things were argreed on. Personally I think it should just be an option between yays and boos. IF you can't take negative critism just disable ratings entirely. I know, right!?

2014-08-15 03:34:00 Author: XX_sonicfan_XX Posts: 265

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