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LBPC Mafia: Blood & Ice-cream THE GAME OVER! READ RESULTS AT PAGE 32!

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46860&d=1379423898

Let the games begin! Use your skills to find out who the mafiosi are, gain the trust of your fellow civilians and annihilate the mafia! Or, if you're the mafioso, just kill everyone who could kill you.

Roles:


Mafia

-Trader: The trader has the power to switch roles with any other player. If he chooses to switch roles with a civilian, when the trader dies s/he?s revealed to have died a civilian and when the traded civilian dies, s/he is revealed to have died a Mafioso. However, this is only limited to titles. The original allegiances of the players do stay through this process.

(NOTE: The traded player may not tell they have been traded. This is absolutely forbidden under any and all circumstances, and the judgment for doing this will be brutal.)

-Mafioso: A standard member of the mafia. Mafioso?s mission is to plan with other Mafiosi and survive the game, while appearing innocent. At night, all Mafiosi (including the Trader) will choose who the mafia will terminate that night.


Civilians

-Civvie: A standard civilian. Civvie?s duty is to deduce and find evidence on who they find suspicious and then accuse who they think is part of the mafia.

-Sheriff: Every night, the sheriff may find out the role of any one player of his or her choice. They PM me the player whose role they want to find out. Then, the sheriff must win over the civilians and vote the mafia scum out of town (by this, I mean killing, of course. In progressively brutal ways, I promise).

-Doctor: When the night falls, the doctor decides to save someone who they find to be in danger of death at night. If this is performed on a player who is getting massacred by the townsfolk, the player is saved, but the doctor dies instead.

-Priest: Once in the game, during night or day, the priest shall PM me his or her choice to activate their special ability. Once the ability is activated, the next time anyone would die, nobody dies. This indicates one night of peace and no blood. This night is a small light in the sea of darkness.

RULES (BREAK THESE AND DIE!!!):

-DO NOT REVEAL ANY PRIVATE MESSAGE/S I MAY HAVE SENT YOU UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
-DO NOT SEND GAME-RELATED PRIVATE MESSAGES TO YOUR FELLOW GAMERS, UNLESS YOUR ROLE ALLOWS IT.
-POST IN RED, IF YOU'RE DEAD.
-POST IN GREEN, IF YOU'RE AN OUTSIDER.
-BE ACTIVE.
-DO NOT SPOIL ANYTHING ABOUT GRAND THEFT AUTO 5 HERE. IT HAS ITS OWN THREAD SOMEWHERE ELSE.


PLAYERS:


jarrequin001 -DEAD -> Civvie
amoney1999 -DEAD -> Civvie
Jedi_1993 -DEAD -> Mafioso
Shooter0898 -Alive
megaextremist -DEAD -> Ice-cream man
SnipySev -Alive
TheUltraDeino -DEAD -> Civvie
craigmond -DEAD ->Buddy-cop
butter-kicker -Alive
Ryan86Me -DEAD -> Brainwashed
Dawnbreaker_23 -DEAD -> Mafioso
Burnvictim42 -DEAD -> Sheriff
Ali_Star -DEAD -> Buddy-cop
Flamingemu -DEAD -> Civvie

PS: 1000th post. Thank you all! It's been very much fun, being here at the forums with you, doing different stuff. Let's not pay attention to our low numbers, let's just have a memorable game!
2013-09-17 14:31:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


WooHoo it's up ,now let's take down some scum.2013-09-17 16:14:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Gentlemen. Let's see if I make it past day 1 this time 2013-09-17 19:21:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Gentlemen. Let's see if I make it past day 1 this time

I vote for burn.....

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/troll%20face/preview/troll%20face.jpg

I am joking obviously, I do not vote for burn. for all those who take this serious. Get out. <3
2013-09-17 19:40:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Well, day 1 of a new game. I doubt anyone will do anything suspicious. I abstain.2013-09-17 20:02:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Remember, the most active poster will get a special mention in tomorrow's paper. Nothing that really relates to the game much and it doesn't reveal anything, don't worry. It's just a small cameo.

Also, I know that the first day is sort of awkward, so I won't be offended by small posting-numbers or anything of the sort today. Today.
2013-09-17 20:24:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


So yeah, do you guys remember that time in GTA V where you?2013-09-17 20:49:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


mafeya gon duwn!2013-09-17 21:01:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Here's to hoping the civilian faction prevails the time around !2013-09-17 21:50:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Finally! The game started! Let's do this!2013-09-17 22:13:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


So, back to square one. By far the awkwardest square.

I'd like to point out that during the next few weeks I'm going to be very busy since university is going to start again on Monday. So I obviously won't be able to participate as much as in the previous rounds. Sorry about that.
2013-09-17 22:30:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Welcome back everybody! Let's hope nobody has forgotten about this, since it's taken a little while to get up and running, and to get the ball rolling.....


WooHoo it's up ,now let's take down some scum.

Interesting how you didn't specify "mafia scum". Though, since you have a habit of saying suspicious things, and each time you have been innocent, I'll let you off for now.

Also odd in the first few posts - Ryan86me - the "civilian faction"..... sounds like he's implying that it's a different faction to his own. Dunno.. maybe that's just me though.
2013-09-17 22:54:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Welcome back everybody! Let's hope nobody has forgotten about this, since it's taken a little while to get up and running, and to get the ball rolling.....



Interesting how you didn't specify "mafia scum". Though, since you have a habit of saying suspicious things, and each time you have been innocent, I'll let you off for now.

Also odd in the first few posts - Ryan86me - the "civilian faction"..... sounds like he's implying that it's a different faction to his own. Dunno.. maybe that's just me though.

Already I'm suspicious. In all seriousness I was in a rush and wanted to get a post in expressing my delight at the game starting and of course include the comment about huntin' down mafiosoi.
2013-09-17 23:12:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Welcome back everybody! Let's hope nobody has forgotten about this, since it's taken a little while to get up and running, and to get the ball rolling.....



Interesting how you didn't specify "mafia scum". Though, since you have a habit of saying suspicious things, and each time you have been innocent, I'll let you off for now.

Also odd in the first few posts - Ryan86me - the "civilian faction"..... sounds like he's implying that it's a different faction to his own. Dunno.. maybe that's just me though.

I think you're just kinda hyped up and ready to point fingers at someone, I don't think either one of them is doing any harm in saying "I wanna win!"
2013-09-18 00:50:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


*Leaves LBPC for a few months*2013-09-18 02:11:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Welcome back everybody! Let's hope nobody has forgotten about this, since it's taken a little while to get up and running, and to get the ball rolling.....



Interesting how you didn't specify "mafia scum". Though, since you have a habit of saying suspicious things, and each time you have been innocent, I'll let you off for now.

Also odd in the first few posts - Ryan86me - the "civilian faction"..... sounds like he's implying that it's a different faction to his own. Dunno.. maybe that's just me though.
Nah, was just afraid that if I said "we" in reference to being a civilian, people would be down my butt (See: the start of the last round).
2013-09-18 03:10:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


I think you're just kinda hyped up and ready to point fingers at someone, I don't think either one of them is doing any harm in saying "I wanna win!"

It's not them saying that they want to win, it's the words that they used..... didn't you read my post?


Nah, was just afraid that if I said "we" in reference to being a civilian, people would be down my butt (See: the start of the last round).

Fair point.
2013-09-18 10:47:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


http://i.imgur.com/z0GabHa.gif2013-09-18 12:30:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Well since there's nobody to vote for I abstain.2013-09-18 17:28:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


abstaining as well2013-09-18 20:54:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Can I point out that FreeAim is unlikely to have randomised the roles, so looking at the roles of past Mafia murders could be interesting.2013-09-18 21:32:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Can I point out that FreeAim is unlikely to have randomised the roles, so looking at the roles of past Mafia murders could be interesting.
Why would you find it unlikely that he randomized the roles?
2013-09-18 22:10:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Nothing is going on, so I abstain.2013-09-18 22:17:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i105/alekesam/clint-nod_zps5b7ae86c.gif

I "the gif master" also abstain.
2013-09-18 22:34:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Why would you find it unlikely that he randomized the roles?

Because effort. I wouldn't.
2013-09-18 22:37:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Oh cool. The game's up. Good luck everyone.

EDIT: Congrats on 1000th post.
2013-09-18 22:50:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Hey guys, I'm going to spend thursday and friday in my grandfather's house, where there is no internet. I'll be back Friday evening.

There isn't much going on, so I abstain, at least until I return.
2013-09-18 23:27:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Because effort. I wouldn't.

wouldnt he just use random.org? also, that would hurt the game because everybody would know who's who
2013-09-19 02:04:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Just going to abstain for now.2013-09-19 02:43:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Yeah, the day will end in 14-15 hours from now. Better make your votes!

Also, the roles are indeed random. I could've hand-picked everyone if I wanted to, but it's more fun. For example, I could've never thought, that the priest would be--, oh, I probably shouldn't tell anyone's identity here.
2013-09-19 05:59:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I'm gonna abstain then.... for now.2013-09-19 10:55:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Hmmmm... I will just vote for an inactive member that hasn't posted anything yet so that way someone dies and the game keeps going.

I think people are already better at keeping a poker face on this game. By now, everyone has a lot of experience.
2013-09-19 13:36:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


I think people are already better at keeping a poker face on this game. By now, everyone has a lot of experience.

Everyone may have experience BUT on the early days trust isn't that high. No enemies mean little trust.

So kids remember try and trust people but take everything with a pinch of salt.
2013-09-19 16:03:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


http://25.media.tumblr.com/c7381c6632d36a94befc1702e8dfbeb2/tumblr_mrlqt4gOgr1rjn54vo1_500.gif2013-09-19 23:34:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


http://25.media.tumblr.com/c7381c6632d36a94befc1702e8dfbeb2/tumblr_mrlqt4gOgr1rjn54vo1_500.gif
Not entirely sure what this is supposed to convey.
2013-09-20 00:47:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


I think people are already better at keeping a poker face on this game. By now, everyone has a lot of experience.

My "lots of expirience" is ignoring the game completely
2013-09-20 01:09:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


I vote for craigmond for not posting anything. Sorry craigy, nothing personal.2013-09-20 03:31:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


The day ends now. There is a single vote now, on Craigmond, meaning he will get lynched at night.

The night one begins! It will last 14 hours. All those with special roles, send the messages to me when you see this.

Also, gif-master, I trust you can entertain us for this following 14 hours.
2013-09-20 05:50:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Alrighty then.

http://www.dealspwn.com/writer/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The5thNintendoElement.gif
2013-09-20 07:57:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I vote for craigmond for not posting anything. Sorry craigy, nothing personal.

WTF???? There are other people who haven't posted, why single out craig? If you took the time to look at his profile, you'd see that he hasn't even been online for a few days. These kind of moronic decisions will give the mafia another easy victory.

EDIT: I must add - that if there are any more mafia games in the future, the person running it should specify a minimum vote requirement for those being lynched eg a member must receive at least 3 votes in order to be lynched. It's unfair to lynch someone on one vote!
2013-09-20 11:08:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


WTF???? There are other people who haven't posted, why single out craig? If you took the time to look at his profile, you'd see that he hasn't even been online for a few days. These kind of moronic decisions will give the mafia another easy victory.

EDIT: I must add - that if there are any more mafia games in the future, the person running it should specify a minimum vote requirement for those being lynched eg a member must receive at least 3 votes in order to be lynched. It's unfair to lynch someone on one vote!
You beat me to the punch. What the hell, Jar?!
2013-09-20 12:48:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


I waited a long time for one of you to vote. 7 hours.

No one voted, so I voted.

I gave you all the time in the world to make a wiser decision then I apperently did.

And also, you should blame it all on me if he turns out to be a civvie at the news. Y he turns out to be the trader or mafia, then you can all praise me. Sorry if my decision hurt some of you, but it was nothing personal.

EDIT:


These kind of moronic decisions will give the mafia another easy victory.

Tht's kind of my persona in this game. I've said many times I am not a good player anyways.
2013-09-20 13:22:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


EDIT: I must add - that if there are any more mafia games in the future, the person running it should specify a minimum vote requirement for those being lynched eg a member must receive at least 3 votes in order to be lynched. It's unfair to lynch someone on one vote!

This is not actually a bad idea. It's too late to implement this for night one, but for later nights, minimum amount of votes required for anyone to die is 2. However, due the low number of players and almost everyone acting like a small, scared kitten alone on a dark road, even that appears to be hard to come by.

The night ends in 7 hours.
2013-09-20 13:28:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I gave you all the time in the world to make a wiser decision then I apperently did.


Voting for someone who isn't actually playing would've been a wiser decision!
2013-09-20 14:15:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


http://dalanel.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/funny-gifs-norway.gif2013-09-20 15:15:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Well one of two things will happen.

1. Craig mafia Jar is hailed a hero
2. Craig is innocent and Jar is executed by firing squad for murder.

Now in nightime randomness let us all head towards FreeAims mobile YMCA for a drink.
2013-09-20 16:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Hey, I'm back. Too bad it's night, I have 2 cents in my pocket I'd like to give.2013-09-20 19:29:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Oh shoot, I can't be around for week one and I'm slaughtered

Sorry about my inactivity, I was away in London and couldn't get Wi-Fi in the hotel.
2013-09-20 20:05:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


If there is one thing I learned from this night, it's not to try to implement any new and fun roles to the game. This is not my decision, but apparently mother nature thought it was a bad idea.

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46878&d=1379704552


craigmond - Buddy-cop - Lynched by the civilians
Ali_star - Buddy-cop - Killed by the mafia

The buddy-cop role: two people are chosen as buddy cops and they learn each other's identities. They are basically civilians with someone to trust. Also, when one of them is killed by the mafia, the other one will learn the name of one of the people responsible for this.

Not necessary now, since they're both dead. Nasty way to go. Day two begins. GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER, CIVILIANS!
2013-09-20 20:20:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Jarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070617203355/inciclopedia/images/2/26/Angry_mob.gif

You Have some explaining to do.
2013-09-20 20:36:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Wow, this isn't the first time Ali had a special role and died on the first day.2013-09-20 20:58:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Oh, cool. The "Buddy Cop" thing would have been fun. Whoever runs the next game should use it too.
But wow, both in the first night. Wow...
2013-09-20 21:21:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


That's not a good start... that's not a good start at all :/

If there was a night the priest's ability would have come in handy, this was the one.

About Jarreguin not abstaining like the rest of us: In my opinion you guys should think this over before mindlessly voting on him. Sure, it looks suspicious that he cast his vote so late just before the day ended, while everybody else was abstaining. But doesn't this look too "easy"? As I've said before, mafiosos are never this obvious.

Doesn't this situation look familiar to you guys? Every game, there's always someone who makes a faux pas. Every time we vote that person out, hoping they're a mafioso who made a rookie mistake. And every time, we've been wrong. I have this gut feeling that this is just the same pattern repeating itself.

Just my two cents.
2013-09-20 21:35:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


this does kinda put jar in the spotlight doesn't it?

it wouldve been wiser to look at activity on posts outside of the mafia thread,if that was the kind of person you wanted dead
2013-09-20 21:37:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


That's not a good start... that's not a good start at all :/

If there was a night the priest's ability would have come in handy, this was the one.

About Jarreguin not abstaining like the rest of us: In my opinion you guys should think this over before mindlessly voting on him. Sure, it looks suspicious that he cast his vote so late just before the day ended, while everybody else was abstaining. But doesn't this look too "easy"? As I've said before, mafiosos are never this obvious.

Doesn't this situation look familiar to you guys? Every game, there's always someone who makes a faux pas. Every time we vote that person out, hoping they're a mafioso who made a rookie mistake. And every time, we've been wrong. I have this gut feeling that this is just the same pattern repeating itself.

Just my two cents.

This is a good point but we can't rule out the possibility he planned this as an excuse. HOWEVER last game I was lynched by 2 mafioso, this made me think that the mafia wouldn't let one of their members make such a suicidal move especially this early and Jars record in this game speaks for itself.
2013-09-20 22:03:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Yeah, I'm on Snipey's side on this one. If us civilians didn't even know about the buddy cop role, then I doubt the mafia would know either, let alone know who were the buddy cops.

Still no one is caught in my suspicion yet
2013-09-20 22:07:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Wow, this isn't the first time Ali had a special role and died on the first day.

Actually it's the second time. He was a sheriff the first game and died day 1.
2013-09-20 22:31:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Actually it's the second time. He was a sheriff the first game and died day 1.

Yes, hence the "isn't".
2013-09-20 22:34:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Jar seems a bit too obvious at the moment, his house would probably be worth a trip for the sheriff though... or are the "sheriffs" dead at this point? o.O

My current suspicions (and vote) lie with flamingemu. It seems odd that he would cast suspicion on previous mafia members, and then Ali-star, a previous mafia member and known experienced player bites the bullet.
2013-09-21 00:19:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Welp. I hope you guys can believe I am a civilian by me voting out a civilian???

Thank you for those backing me up. You guys are really nice. Sorry I made a rookie mistake, but I have said time after time I am not a good player. I just love the game.
2013-09-21 02:43:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Welp. I hope you guys can believe I am a civilian by me voting out a civilian???

Thank you for those backing me up. You guys are really nice. Sorry I made a rookie mistake, but I have said time after time I am not a good player. I just love the game.
Man, you're giving me conflicting feelings.

On one hand, you voted out an important role right as the mafia took out his sidekick.

On the other hand, if you hadn't voted, all of us civilians would have to live with the fact that we sat with our thumbs in our butts during the day so that the mafia could murder one of us at night.


So, I won't vote on you, but I'm definitely not defending you either - just waiting for further evidence.
2013-09-21 06:51:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Someone had to vote, is all that I am saying.

Also FreeAim, make sure you keep updating that list.
2013-09-21 07:23:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Man, you're giving me conflicting feelings.

On one hand, you voted out an important role right as the mafia took out his sidekick.

On the other hand, if you hadn't voted, all of us civilians would have to live with the fact that we sat with our thumbs in our butts during the day so that the mafia could murder one of us at night.


So, I won't vote on you, but I'm definitely not defending you either - just waiting for further evidence.

It does seem odd that Jar is did vote out one of a certain role where as the mafia picked off the other person with that role. Yet no-one knew about it, as far as I'm concerned I'm abstaining again.
2013-09-21 11:30:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Civilians, I just wanted to wish you luck. We're all counting on you.2013-09-21 12:00:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Civilians, I just wanted to wish you luck. We're all counting on you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB2yqeD0Nus
2013-09-21 12:02:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/jamesvan.gif

Doctor should've had sense to protect me since I was the only one making proper accusations in the first day. Oh well......
2013-09-21 12:25:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Doctor should've had sense to protect me since I was the only one making proper accusations in the first day. Oh well......

It's probably a good idea to look into this. Ali made an accusation against Shooter, and now he's dead. During the last game that same thing happened to me and GDN, after we suspected/accused Craigmond. Craig turned out to be mafia, and had us killed because we had come too close to the truth. Maybe the same is happening here.

Shooter, what do you have to say about this?
2013-09-21 13:35:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


No votes have been cast so far. The day lasts roughly around 24 more hours. If it is a common wish, this length may be drawn out by 12 more hours max.2013-09-21 20:11:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


No votes have been cast so far.

I think you missed one...


My current suspicions (and vote) lie with flamingemu.
2013-09-21 20:15:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


It's probably a good idea to look into this. Ali made an accusation against Shooter, and now he's dead. During the last game that same thing happened to me and GDN, after we suspected/accused Craigmond. Craig turned out to be mafia, and had us killed because we had come too close to the truth. Maybe the same is happening here.

Shooter, what do you have to say about this?

Ali also made an accusation against Ryan, and in the last game the mafia would've wanted rid of you as you had both single-handledly killed a mafia member on the first day. Ali also stated after the supposed accusation that it was to get the ball rolling and to make people think. Please also take into account the fact that it was for something minor, as i did not specifying who was the scum I was refering to. Also look at my post that responds to his original accusation.
2013-09-21 20:23:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I think you missed one...

I did. My thanks.

Votes:
flamingemu: 1 vote

It takes at least two votes to get one killed (this change was applied this morning). Happy hunting.
2013-09-21 22:39:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I did. My thanks.

Votes:
flamingemu: 1 vote

It takes at least two votes to get one killed (this change was applied this morning). Happy hunting.

... I could have been saved, I COULD HAVE LIVED!

If that rule had been applied, my family (and sloths) wouldn't have to deal with the trauma of loss :'( But at least I have my cop buddy up here to dance with me
2013-09-21 23:00:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


... I could have been saved, I COULD HAVE LIVED!

If that rule had been applied, my family (and sloths) wouldn't have to deal with the trauma of loss :'( But at least I have my cop buddy up here to dance with me

See you space cowboy...
2013-09-21 23:10:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I too vote for flamingemu then. 2013-09-21 23:18:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Burn, Jar is there any reason to vote flamingemu?2013-09-22 00:55:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


(sorry ive been away awhile) in my eyes, jar and shooter (btw shooter, he accused both of you.) are the most suspicious. jar all-to conveniently accidently votes out a very useful specialty role for our team, while at the same time the mafia kill the other guy in that role. ALSO we had already said that why wouldn't you vote for someone less active than craig, but active on other threads (if you're going to vote randomly, do so wisely) after this happens, flame gets a vote from somewhere (i personally don't suspect him) and if flame is one of us, jar could look at that and say "oh! a chance to band-waggon and vote out a civ!" (which he then does vote for flame)

shooter isn't quite as high on my list as jar is, but getting killed for accusing someone?
2013-09-22 01:00:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


(sorry ive been away awhile) in my eyes, jar and shooter (btw shooter, he accused both of you.) are the most suspicious. jar all-to conveniently accidently votes out a very useful specialty role for our team, while at the same time the mafia kill the other guy in that role. ALSO we had already said that why wouldn't you vote for someone less active than craig, but active on other threads (if you're going to vote randomly, do so wisely) after this happens, flame gets a vote from somewhere (i personally don't suspect him) and if flame is one of us, jar could look at that and say "oh! a chance to band-waggon and vote out a civ!" (which he then does vote for flame)

shooter isn't quite as high on my list as jar is, but getting killed for accusing someone?

That's the thing with Jar. Even if he is mafia he wouldn't have known about the buddy cop role and neither would the mafia. It was a very unlikley coincidence. Now Jar maybe did rush his vote because some people aren't active here but are posting elsewhere.

Here's something to consider: would the mafia let one of their members do something as crazy as what Jar did?
2013-09-22 01:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


That's the thing with Jar. Even if he is mafia he wouldn't have known about the buddy cop role and neither would the mafia. It was a very unlikley coincidence. Now Jar maybe did rush his vote because some people aren't active here but are posting elsewhere.

Here's something to consider: would the mafia let one of their members do something as crazy as what Jar did?

reverse psychology. by now, many civilians have already said "no, he can't be a mafia, its way too obvious." what if they're using that?

just a thought. for now, I don't vote for anybody
2013-09-22 01:34:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Burn, Jar is there any reason to vote flamingemu?

Burn had a good reason. Jarr was bandwagoning.

I don't really agree with Burn's reason, but I respect it.
2013-09-22 01:38:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


reverse psychology. by now, many civilians have already said "no, he can't be a mafia, its way too obvious." what if they're using that?

just a thought. for now, I don't vote for anybody


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40

He's got a point. This would be one of hell of a move by the mafia but I wouldn't put it past them. For now I abstain.
2013-09-22 01:40:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


reverse psychology. by now, many civilians have already said "no, he can't be a mafia, its way too obvious." what if they're using that?

just a thought. for now, I don't vote for anybody
Mega, you're a **** genius.

My vote goes on Jar, for killing off a civilian in the last second of the round. That was way too suspicious for me to brush off.
2013-09-22 02:41:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Yeah, Jar is getting suspicious, why is he so eager to vote for flammingemu? He gave out little reason to why. So here's what I'm gonna do:
I'm gonna go vote for Flammingemu.
If he's innocent, then I'm voting for Jarr next day, if he's mafia, then Jarr gets a pass
2013-09-22 03:17:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


reverse psychology. by now, many civilians have already said "no, he can't be a mafia, its way too obvious." what if they're using that?

just a thought. for now, I don't vote for anybody

So you think because I am "the wild running chicken" in the game makes me mafia? I'm just being myself and having fun.
2013-09-22 03:24:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Mega, you're a **** genius.

My vote goes on Jar, for killing off a civilian in the last second of the round. That was way too suspicious for me to brush off.

If I die tonight, another civillian dies. Well if I die, then you just helped the mafia. I am innocent.

And for the last time, I voted so the game could move on. Everyone was chicken to make the big move. I took it,
2013-09-22 03:26:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


And for the last time, I voted so the game could move on. Everyone was chicken to make the big move. I took it,

I wouldn't say "chicken", unsure is a more fitting word
2013-09-22 03:28:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


I wouldn't say "chicken", unsure is a more fitting word

Unsure???

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUu-kN6CUAAB1ka.png
2013-09-22 03:38:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Unsure???

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUu-kN6CUAAB1ka.png

UNSURE!
http://i9.lbp.me/img/ft/c997ca39ad4fc976e0bd16d6d0f53d590728bca2.jpg
2013-09-22 03:53:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


UNSURE!
http://i9.lbp.me/img/ft/c997ca39ad4fc976e0bd16d6d0f53d590728bca2.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUvDLKHCIAA1xrs.png

I AM UNSURE!!
2013-09-22 03:58:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Erm why are people voting for me idk2013-09-22 07:02:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Erm why are people voting for me idk

I'm doing it to see if Jarr is mafia or not.

I know it's a stupid and risky move, but hey, I'm a stupid and risky person. P:
2013-09-22 07:32:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


((Just to let you guys know I've moved into my place at university and the internet isn't set up yet. I'll check in when I can on my phone but I doubt I'll be posting much.))
I abstain my vote.
2013-09-22 07:36:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I do think Jarr is innocent, but I'm not certain enough to defend him. As I said, he does look hella suspicious... but I have this feeling we're repeating the all too familiar pattern of killing civilian noobs.

So I too am abstaining.
2013-09-22 11:28:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Yeah civilian noob about to get killed
I vote for Jar, why not
2013-09-22 13:40:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Yeah, Jar is getting suspicious, why is he so eager to vote for flammingemu? He gave out little reason to why. So here's what I'm gonna do:
I'm gonna go vote for Flammingemu.
If he's innocent, then I'm voting for Jarr next day, if he's mafia, then Jarr gets a pass

Wait if you think flamingemu is a CIVILAIN (do you?) and you're voting for him and in the morning if he is revealed innocent you will then vote Jar despite the fact you to are bandwagoning. It sounds like this could be a great way to get rid of two innocents right away.

NOTE:this is a theory and hasn't been completely thought out...... Yet.
2013-09-22 18:08:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Wait if you think flamingemu is a CIVILAIN (do you?) and you're voting for him and in the morning if he is revealed innocent you will then vote Jar despite the fact you to are bandwagoning. It sounds like this could be a great way to get rid of two innocents right away.

NOTE:this is a theory and hasn't been completely thought out...... Yet.

Yeah, I admit this is a stupid move by me. I mainly did it to see if Jar was a mafia, and a little because Burn made good reasoning (despite how I said earlier that I don't exactly agree with it). I know that this will raise more suspicions of me, but I'm gonna abstain, it'll be more suspenseful to see who will retain victorious with a glorious rock-paper scissors match

Edit: Also, if they will have a rock-paper-scissors match, it'll basically give me what I need to know for the next day, anyways. Jarr's civilian or if Flamingemu's mafia, then I'll try to get a new lead, but if Flamingemu's civilian, then iI'll lose my trust on Jar.
2013-09-22 19:29:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


One more hour, folks. I am beginning to count votes (please don't do that for me, or it would undermine my output and make it look like I am doing no work here).

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it "flamigemu 2-2 jarrequin" at the moment?
2013-09-22 20:08:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it "flamigemu 2-2 jarrequin" at the moment?

Correcto!
2013-09-22 20:26:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Correcto!
Haha, I joined 2 months before you did.
2013-09-22 20:34:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Haha, I joined 2 months before you did.

I think you forgot 2011...
2013-09-22 20:39:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


So Flammingemu was voted on by Burn and Jar but who voted Jar? (Just wondering)2013-09-22 20:47:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So Flammingemu was voted on by Burn and Jar but who voted Jar? (Just wondering)

Ryan86me and flammingemu
2013-09-22 20:48:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Haha, I joined 2 months before you did.

Good to see another April '10er here on the forum, I swear they're just too rare, ya know?

*zwish*
2013-09-22 20:48:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Good to see another April '10er here on the forum, I swear they're just too rare, ya know?

*zwish*

Ha, I joined a few months before you guys. Even though that barely matters since you have more than 6x the posts that I have. I blame me playing too much forum games in my first 3 years of this forum
2013-09-22 20:53:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


So, I guess it's nighttime now?2013-09-22 21:12:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


The night number 2 begins... NOW!

No more game-related posts are allowed until morning. Post gifs and lots of them, or a certain someone will be relieved of their duty as the gif master.

And yes, the April 2010-folks are the forum elite here. The top of the food chain, one could say.
2013-09-22 21:15:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


So, I guess it's nighttime now?

Yep well goodnight guys don't let the mafioso sneak into your rooms and put 50 rounds of bullets into your chest. Unless the doctor comes along and does a pulp fiction styled revive.
2013-09-22 21:16:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Also, I was correct that's it's a tie between flamingemu and Jar?2013-09-22 21:19:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Yes

Also is it day yet?
2013-09-22 21:19:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


The night will, upon special request, last 22-23 hours.2013-09-22 21:22:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


The night will, upon special request, last 22-23 hours.

I feel like I'm living in Antarctica. Day and night being all screwed up
2013-09-22 21:24:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Did somebody say "Pulp Fiction"

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85wjooTfH1qdl5ybo1_500.gif
2013-09-22 21:25:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Also, I was correct that's it's a tie between flamingemu and Jar?

I guess me and flamingemu shall rock paper scissors to the death then?
2013-09-22 21:53:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


And yes, the April 2010-folks are the forum elite here. The top of the food chain, one could say.
I see your 2010, and I raise.
2013-09-22 22:06:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


I'm the best, because I joined in-

erm.. wait. Never mind. It took me quite a while to join, actually.
2013-09-22 22:12:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


nightime? but... i have so much to say about... what happened... wasn't... around...

ah well
2013-09-22 23:12:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


I'm the best, because I joined in-

erm.. wait. Never mind. It took me quite a while to join, actually.

And whats sad is that you probably have more friends on here than I do
2013-09-23 00:49:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


So me and flamingemu die at the same time?2013-09-23 00:57:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


So me and flamingemu die at the same time?

I'm pretty sure that it's the good ol' fashion RPS. Go put in your choices to Freeaim even though he didn't explain it too well.
2013-09-23 01:28:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


I didn't explain it well because I didn't explain it at all.

Yes, it's RPS. Flamingemu and jarrequin001, send me a PM saying one of the following: "Rock," "Paper" or "Scissors."
2013-09-23 05:36:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


2013-09-23 18:51:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


The beginning of the day is postponed. Both of the participants in the night-time RPS-event thought it'd be funny to go with the obvious choice (rock), so in short, we don't have a resolution.2013-09-23 19:01:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


,
The beginning of the day is postponed. Both of the participants in the night-time RPS-event thought it'd be funny to go with the obvious choice (rock), so in short, we don't have a resolution.

Why not let the gods of random.org to decide?
2013-09-23 19:02:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


,

Why not let the gods of random.org to decide?

I will have to fall as low as that if the next stand-off ends in a tie as well.
2013-09-23 19:03:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


What about rock paper scissors lizard spock2013-09-23 19:26:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I remember reading in the original mafia game thread that the people involved in a fight to the death are required to send 5 RPS words, in case there are any ties.2013-09-23 19:47:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I remember reading in the original mafia game thread that the people involved in a fight to the death are required to send 5 RPS words, in case there are any ties.
This^
But really, it's your show FreeAim, run it how you wish I like the idea of RPS, as the players are in a way responsible for their own death.
2013-09-23 20:05:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


I remember reading in the original mafia game thread that the people involved in a fight to the death are required to send 5 RPS words, in case there are any ties.

My choices would have been rock rock rock rock rock
2013-09-23 21:19:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Well I might miss the beginning of day 3 (depending if Jar RE enters his RPS entry)2013-09-23 22:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Done.2013-09-24 02:56:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


anyone wanna hear a knock knock joke while we wait?2013-09-24 03:09:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46909&d=1380021195


flamingemu - Civvie
Ryan86Me - Brainwashed

Brainwashed was a role, invented by one of you for this game. The brainwashed didn't know his allegiance to the mafia, but it would only be revealed to him when the mafia would be in a dire situation. The mafia didn't know the identity of the brainwashed character either. Well, until now. Sucks to be mafia.

Day three begins!
2013-09-24 06:04:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Wait, what? I was a mafia member and nobody, not even I, knew it?

Erm, sorry about that, everyone. Stupid brainwashing :/
2013-09-24 13:01:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


You've all been brainwashed into believing I'm dead... well I'm not. I'm very much alive, even though I'm writing in red.2013-09-24 13:15:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Well there's nothing I can do to stop you guys now. I know you will vote for me. I'm not going to convince you not to. All I want to say is that you would waste your vote. You will all be saying "Wow, the cycle like the other games repeats again" when I get revealed innocent.

Also, I am pretty sure Ryan got traded.
2013-09-24 13:21:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Well that's new.2013-09-24 16:56:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Can we just assume for the next game that I'm not mafia.2013-09-24 18:21:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Can we just assume for the next game that I'm not mafia.

But what if you are mafia?
2013-09-24 18:31:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


And survey says: Jarr!2013-09-24 20:53:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


And survey says: Jarr!

Don't jump to conclusions, I think Jar is innocent. It seems like an all to obvious set up doesn't it?
2013-09-24 20:57:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


not voting for jar (yet)

but remind me again why we voted for flame?
2013-09-24 21:13:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


not voting for jar (yet)

but remind me again why we voted for flame?

I didn't. You guys seem perfectly fine with swinging your swords in the dark.
2013-09-24 21:18:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Jar, I don't even know what to think tbh. You and burn participate in killing a civilian, but at the risk of your own death? that's not the play i would make if I were mafia.2013-09-24 21:31:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


I didn't. You guys seem perfectly fine with swinging your swords in the dark.

But I abstained.

I have a suspect but I'm waiting for them to do a little more before I start shouting WITCH!
2013-09-24 21:49:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Is no one else going to comment on the question mark title? 2013-09-24 22:19:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Is no one else going to comment on the question mark title?

Well spotted.

Is it possible that we are under a Genjutsu.

Only Rawk will get that referance. *sigh*
2013-09-24 22:28:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Is no one else going to comment on the question mark title?

Wait maybe its another secret role. It's called the question markinator who only once can add a question mark to the title. This is to deter the mafia from killing.
2013-09-24 22:30:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Flame is v mad that you killed her for no purpose, what happened to utilising me to find out if jar is guilty huh. huh? I WAS SO YOUNG2013-09-24 23:52:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LZDQ_OZ4SZM/UhtoFbzzLvI/AAAAAAAAJGg/-OPBor7A63w/s1600/tumblr_m9lj551lAZ1rpymsbo1_500.gif
It is me, GDN! So, how's this round of GIF wars Mafia so far?
2013-09-25 00:10:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Flame is v mad that you killed her for no purpose, what happened to utilising me to find out if jar is guilty huh. huh? I WAS SO YOUNG

the person who said they would vote for you if to see if jar was a mafia changed his mind, and abstained I think
2013-09-25 00:22:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


the person who said they would vote for you if to see if jar was a mafia changed his mind, and abstained I think

Yeah, I did, I thought the RPS would drive me into my next vote. I dunno about you, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Jar voted for craig and emu for no reason that he explained clearly.
2013-09-25 00:54:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Flame is v mad that you killed her for no purpose, what happened to utilising me to find out if jar is guilty huh. huh? I WAS SO YOUNG


Flame is v mad that you killed her for no purpose, what happened to utilising me to find out if jar is guilty huh. huh?


Flame is v mad that you killed her for no purpose,


you killed her for no


her

Mystery solved.

*zwish*
2013-09-25 00:56:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Glad to see you used the role I came up with. Told you it'd be ironic as hell if the mafia unknowingly killed one of their own

I preferred the title "sleeper agent" though.
2013-09-25 01:18:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Glad to see you used the role I came up with. Told you it'd be ironic as hell if the mafia unknowingly killed one of their own

I preferred the title "sleeper agent" though.

the fact that you came up with that idea puts you in my good book
2013-09-25 01:48:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Wait, what? I was a mafia member and nobody, not even I, knew it?

Erm, sorry about that, everyone. Stupid brainwashing :/

Freeaim didn't explain much about how this new role works or how it fits into the story, that's why it doesn't seem to make much sense. Here's the proposal I sent him, it contains more info:


I've had an idea for a role, but its viability still needs to be tested. It popped up in my mind after I read the Manchurian Candidate.

The sleeper agent. A mafia infiltrator who has been brainwashed years ago to think he's a civilian. He receives a normal civilian role at the beginning of the game. If throughout the game certain conditions are met, he receives a new PM, explaining that recent events have reactivated the memories of his past. From then on, he switches allegiance to the mafia. Upon death, his true role will only be revealed if the switch has actually happened. If he dies before it takes place, he'll be revealed as a civilian, and his true role will only be disclosed after the game ends.

Here's the kicker: after so many years, the mafia has forgotten about their little brainwashing project. They don't know who the sleeper agent is either, so they could very well kill him by accident.

I think it'd be a fun little experiment, especially if it's implemented as a secret role. I still have to figure out the conditions that need to be met. Maybe when three mafiosos get killed, he gets notified.

He's kind of like a backup. The catch is that if the mafia happens to kill him before the conditions are met, they obviously won't get any help from him. The mafia killing the sleeper agent in a time of need is a reflection of civilians killing the doctor in a time of need. Ironically tragic!
2013-09-25 02:06:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I have to give props to the mafia for doing the perfect tatics to make me look like a mafia guy. Think about it, the mafia got rid of Ryan who voted for me. They want me to look like the mafia. If you still want to vote me out though, go ahead. Kill a civilian that looks guilty, just like every mafia game ever played. Think, then believe, then know that I am innocent. I am.2013-09-25 02:38:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


There is a reason I didn't like the name, though. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_Agent_(band))

Also, I like to keep crime-drama and sci-fi separate. Sure, there is the doctor who can save one person from and all-out-annihilation with a helicopter propel and sure there is is brainwashing and sure there is a priest who can stop all battles and YEAH, I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF SIGNS, BUT STILL! If I was to host a mafia-game with sci-fi elements, I would make it not only all around sci-fi, with sky-high futuristic towers and flying cars and time travel and the role of "the doctor" would be written "the Doctor" with a capital D (no pun intended) and mafiosi would actually be undercover aliens and... Yeah.

I am a big fan of sci-fi and I tend to familiarize the term "sleeper agent" with sci-fi, but I also like my crime drama as a somewhat realistic crime-drama. Brainwashing is possible in real life and unless CIA and the US government is keeping secrets from us (darned Obama), mind-altering/mind-controlling technology doesn't exist yet.

Hence the term "Brainwashed" over "Sleeper Agent." It's a clever name, though.
2013-09-25 06:18:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Mind control and brainwashing are the same thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing), man.

You have it wrong: sleeper agents are real; they do not need to be brainwashed to infiltrate their target (that's the fictional part). There are even some historical examples (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_agent#Examples). While on the other hand the concept of brainwashing as we imagine it (a person's memories or opinions being radically altered with some kind of psychological treatment) is completely fictional. So in a way, sleeper agents are less science fiction-ish than brainwashing.
2013-09-25 09:33:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Sleeper agents know their allegiances all the time, though, unlike Ryan did here. Therefore I still don't find it to be a more fitting term. Also, while I do respect your opinions and complaints about the use of the role, I did mention that if I don't find the name fitting, I was going to change it, which I did. Also, I'd like you to remember that you can call it whatever you want in any game hosted by you. I will have you, however, remember that this is a mafia-game hosted by me, not you. So as far as this game goes, the role is referred to as a Brainwashed, whether you like it or not.

Subject closed.
2013-09-25 12:10:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Alright. No need to get catty. It wasn't a complaint.2013-09-25 12:12:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Bill-Hader-Popcorn-reaction-Gif-On-The-Daily-Show.gif2013-09-25 16:12:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Yeah, I did, I thought the RPS would drive me into my next vote. I dunno about you, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Jar voted for craig and emu for no reason that he explained clearly.

Voted for no reason and explained clearly?

I thought that you would vote Jar and the fact that two civilians basically dying by his hands doesn't put him in good standing here. You also accused him but now seemed to just simply back away now that Flammingemu has been declared innocent. I'm starting to think that the both of you are mafia since now two civilians have died by Jarr's hand and then you had voted for flam but when I pointed out how stupid your idea was, you immediately abstained.

Here's my theory on the situation.
2013-09-25 16:14:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Voted for no reason and explained clearly?

I thought that you would vote Jar and the fact that two civilians basically dying by his hands doesn't put him in good standing here. You also accused him but now seemed to just simply back away now that Flammingemu has been declared innocent. I'm starting to think that the both of you are mafia since now two civilians have died by Jarr's hand and then you had voted for flam but when I pointed out how stupid your idea was, you immediately abstained.

Here's my theory on the situation.

I abstained because it would be a tie, and the RPS would get my results anyways. I actually knew it was stupid and risky beforehand (see: my response to flamingemu). Plus, that IS the reason why I'm voting for him. But putting it in more detail by the fact that he had no logical reasoning behind his votes

I just want Jar to answer this: why did you vote for flamingemu?

Edit: You think both me and Jar are mafia? Is Dawn mafia too? If cogmonkey was here, would he also be mafia?
2013-09-25 17:53:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Deino and me right now
http://static.tumblr.com/ejmmd9i/lHylpjma0/tumblr_loe0eekahb1qhakh7o1_400.gif
2013-09-25 18:58:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I abstained because it would be a tie, and the RPS would get my results anyways. I actually knew it was stupid and risky beforehand (see: my response to flamingemu). Plus, that IS the reason why I'm voting for him. But putting it in more detail by the fact that he had no logical reasoning behind his votes

I just want Jar to answer this: why did you vote for flamingemu?

Edit: You think both me and Jar are mafia? Is Dawn mafia too? If cogmonkey was here, would he also be mafia?

wait, so you voted for flame at first saying you were seeing if jar was mafia, then changed your mind because you thought it was silly, but also because the RPS would tell you anyways? why not just vote for jar?
2013-09-25 22:54:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


I don't know what the eff is happening anymore.2013-09-25 23:03:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Edit: You think both me and Jar are mafia? Is Dawn mafia too? If cogmonkey was here, would he also be mafia?

I'm not sure why you're saying i would be accusing Dawn and Cog If you could please explain (sorry my brain is fried)

Anyways might as well put in my first vote and Jar it's for you. He has been involved in the deaths of two civilians and I think it's time some justice is done. If we aren't going to bat an eyelid to this then he, and his possible fellow mafiosos, can kill civilians at will. Sorry Jar.

Also Snipy just try to imagine yourself being screamed at by everyone in the world. That is what is happening.
2013-09-25 23:14:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I'm not sure why you're saying i would be accusing Dawn and Cog If you could please explain (sorry my brain is fried)

Anyways might as well put in my first vote and Jar it's for you. He has been involved in the deaths of two civilians and I think it's time some justice is done. If we aren't going to bat an eyelid to this then he, and his possible fellow mafiosos, can kill civilians at will. Sorry Jar.

Also Snipy just try to imagine yourself being screamed at by everyone in the world. That is what is happening.

It's a reference to the first round of the revived mafia series. In it, both Jarr and Deino were mafiosoi, so the fact that they're both being accused of being a mafioso has led Deino to question if the rationale behind the vote is simply to take out past mafiosoi, hence his mention of Dawn and Cog, who were the two other mafiosoi from Burn's revival.

*zwish*
2013-09-25 23:35:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


wait, so you voted for flame at first saying you were seeing if jar was mafia, then changed your mind because you thought it was silly, but also because the RPS would tell you anyways? why not just vote for jar?

At the time, Jar only had one vote, while emu had 2. My brain went with a random thought to act smart and use emu as some sort of test subject (no hard feelings). When I saw that Jar got a second vote, I then thought of the RPS scenario.

And dragon was right, I was just joking around and listed off the other mafia members. Except for schark, which I Don't remember too much.
2013-09-26 00:08:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


The reason I voted for flam is because I bandwagoned burn for self defence.

And it's also suspicious for me that Deino is not voting for me when he said he was going to. This leads me to the idea rhe mafia told him what to do. It makes perfect sense. I vote for Ultra Deino. There, now I have a logical reason to vote you out. And if you vote for me, I will believe even more that you are mafia.
2013-09-26 00:50:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


The reason I voted for flam is because I bandwagoned burn for self defence.

And it's also suspicious for me that Deino is not voting for me when he said he was going to. This leads me to the idea rhe mafia told him what to do. It makes perfect sense. I vote for Ultra Deino. There, now I have a logical reason to vote you out. And if you vote for me, I will believe even more that you are mafia.

hmmm, yes, ahuh, but one thing you're forgetting: I already voted for you.


And survey says: Jarr!

I can see why someone would get confused, though
2013-09-26 01:51:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


So, um...

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2013-09-26 02:02:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


hmmm, yes, ahuh, but one thing you're forgetting: I already voted for you.

You will sure be in some big trouble when I get revealed as a civilian.
2013-09-26 04:16:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


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Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


You will sure be in some big trouble when I get revealed as a civilian.

Oh, now you're threatening me? Isn't that mafia-like?
2013-09-26 10:34:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Current votes, you asked?

jarrequin001 2 ( Voted by TheUltraDeino and Shooter0898 )

The night will begin in mere six hours from now. If you are planning to, put your vote in asap.
2013-09-26 14:26:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


You will sure be in some big trouble when I get revealed as a civilian.

Jar you have already killed 2 civs this has made me believe you're mafia and I think it's time for some justice.
2013-09-26 16:04:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I have an internet connection sorted!

And with that comes voting!
Jar gets my vote. Kinda bandwagonning on this one but I want to make up for inactivity. Only kinda bandwagonning mind.
2013-09-26 17:25:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Roughly around two hours, people! No changes in this will drop Jar out, as he now stands with 3 votes!2013-09-26 19:01:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


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Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


http://img.pandawhale.com/51562-Breaking-bad-upvote-gif-Zx9m.gif2013-09-26 19:29:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Wait guys I've figured out why there is a ? after day 3 begins. FreeAim is doing an experiment on all of us and no-one is really dead and there is no mafia he just wants to see what would happen if a fake villain was added to the world and how society would react.

FreeAim is the mafia and the boss of this game. ()
2013-09-26 19:44:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


FreeAim is the boss. All hail FreeAim and his mighty awesomeness! I am bound to his eternal service in Valhalla!

I approve this.

EDIT: Night no. 3 begins! Unless there will be interference of any sort, Jarrequin001 will die by the hands of TheUltraDeino, Shooter0898 and Jedi_1993. From now on, it is demanded that you post gifs and other memes to pass the time, as no game-related discussions will be accepted for the next 23 hours!
2013-09-26 19:48:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Is it day yet? 2013-09-26 21:18:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Wait guys I've figured out why there is a ? after day 3 begins. FreeAim is doing an experiment on all of us and no-one is really dead and there is no mafia he just wants to see what would happen if a fake villain was added to the world and how society would react.

FreeAim is the mafia and the boss of this game. ()

I knew there was something in that ice cream...
2013-09-26 21:40:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


woo nighttime2013-09-26 21:41:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


I'm dead? What a surprise!! The cycle starts again.

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2013-09-27 02:30:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


I'm dead? What a surprise!! The cycle starts again.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me393fyu571qhonz7o1_400.gif

Actually, this is the first time you reasonably died. The first game you forfeited, the second game you accidentally cheated, and the third one you hosted.
2013-09-27 02:42:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


From now on, it is demanded that you post gifs and other memes to pass the time, as no game-related discussions will be accepted for the next 23 hours!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o_KhfqxYiSg/TpOoBAUyCEI/AAAAAAAAUUI/UzIY37IgoQA/s1600/breakingbadhorror.gif
2013-09-27 02:45:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


The first game you forfeited.

The first one, you weren't even there and died and abandoned your fellow mafia team.
2013-09-27 03:11:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


The first one, you weren't even there and died and abandoned your fellow mafia team.

The doctor please save Jar,I know this looks suspicious but my gut feeling told me jar is a civvie, sadly I couldn't be here to defend his case.
2013-09-27 07:47:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


http://media.giphy.com/media/11GOXXTtUEzuCI/original.gif

PS: Doctors can't save someone from a civilian lynching as far as I know. Jar is already dead I'm afraid.
2013-09-27 09:24:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


The doctor please save Jar,I know this looks suspicious but my gut feeling told me jar is a civvie, sadly I couldn't be here to defend his case.

The doctor can save people who are lynched? I thought it was only the priest that can stop the lynching.
2013-09-27 11:07:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


The doctor can save people who are lynched? I thought it was only the priest that can stop the lynching.

Oh really...well bugger. Sorry Jar.
2013-09-27 12:20:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Note to self: all it takes to make tons of people post Breaking Bad GIFs is to post one myself...

I will find an evil, mafia-like reason to use this some day, mark my words.
2013-09-27 13:14:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


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Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


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Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46931&d=1380307326


Burnvictim42 - Sheriff - Killed by the mafia
Jarrequin001 - Civvie - Killed by fellow citizens of the town
2013-09-27 19:43:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


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You guys are screwed!
2013-09-27 19:47:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I knew being alive was too good to last2013-09-27 19:58:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/walter-white-laughing.gif

You guys are screwed!

You said it buddy(cop)
2013-09-27 19:59:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Is there really only vanilla in this place.

Well poo the sheriffs dead. Jarr I'm sorry I thought you were mafia. It appears that now we have to play smart.
2013-09-27 20:01:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Is there really only vanilla in this place.

Well poo the sheriffs dead. Jarr I'm sorry I thought you were mafia. It appears that now we have to play smart.

..................

Anyways, lets not just kill someone because we feel like it next time. First lets go over some of the previous pages and see who and who has not been acting out.

Okay, I am going to start with amoney.

During the last game he was a mafia member, he stayed low and rarely made posts he even admitted this at the end of the game. This round he hasn't said much/anything really. I checked his Profile page and I see that he was last online 5 hours ago and he has a decent activity rate, this means that he has had the opportunity to post but he doesn't want to maybe? This could be that he has been told to just let us all tear each other apart.

Thoughts anyone?

I am going to vote for Amoney and wait for his response.
2013-09-27 20:21:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Dang, Jar was my sure bet. I'm gonna have to think a bit, scroll past the previous posts. see what I can come up with

Edit: something I've caught:

Jar seems a bit too obvious at the moment, his house would probably be worth a trip for the sheriff though... or are the "sheriffs" dead at this point? o.O

Burn you sly civvie you
2013-09-27 20:33:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


wha- what?

:/ alright guys if we wanna win we gotta pull it together. I'm gonna read through the whole thread

sorry jar :/
2013-09-27 21:43:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Burn you sly civvie you
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2013-09-27 21:44:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Crap. This is starting to get real bad. Provided there's 4 mafiosos, they could win the game if we screw up this round.

Butter has the right idea, we should get some accusations going ASAP. While we wait for Amoney's answer, I have a question for Deino and Shooter: did you learn nothing at all from the last 3 games?

Because if there's something I have never seen happen until now, was a mafioso making an obvious mistake. Yet time and time again, we choose to believe that's a thing that actually would happen, and end up voting out an obvious noob. A few days ago I told you guys that this thing with Jarreguin just felt like the pattern repeating itself.

Shooter, did you seriously believe Jarreguin was a mafioso because he did something stupid? Weren't you killed for being a noob in the past rounds? Hell, you mentioned it yourself:

This is a good point but we can't rule out the possibility he planned this as an excuse. HOWEVER last game I was lynched by 2 mafioso, this made me think that the mafia wouldn't let one of their members make such a suicidal move especially this early and Jars record in this game speaks for itself.
If someone could relate to Jarreguin's situation, it would probably be you. Yet you chose to kill him. Don't you find that odd?

Here's what I'm thinking: maybe Shooter, Deino or even both of them are mafia. Jarreguin's mistake was a reasonable excuse to vote on him, so they used it. And no one would really object; Jarr attracted a lot of negative attention the moment he voted on Craigmond.

Also, there's this interesting little comment all the way back in the first page:

Interesting how you didn't specify "mafia scum". Though, since you have a habit of saying suspicious things, and each time you have been innocent, I'll let you off for now.

On day 1, Ali casually implies he'll keep an eye on Shooter. On night 1, Ali gets killed. That looks a tiny bit suspicious, doesn't it?

Shooter and UltraDeino, I'd like to hear what you have to say for yourselves.
2013-09-27 21:48:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


A few days ago I told you guys that this thing with Jarreguin just felt like the pattern repeating itself.

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YES!!!! Why did nobody listen to me when I said this 100 times??!?!


sorry jar :/

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Dang, Jar was my sure bet.

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2013-09-28 00:15:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Crap. This is starting to get real bad. Provided there's 4 mafiosos, they could win the game if we screw up this round.

Butter has the right idea, we should get some accusations going ASAP. While we wait for Amoney's answer, I have a question for Deino and Shooter: did you learn nothing at all from the last 3 games?

Because if there's something I have never seen happen until now, was a mafioso making an obvious mistake. Yet time and time again, we choose to believe that's a thing that actually would happen, and end up voting out an obvious noob. A few days ago I told you guys that this thing with Jarreguin just felt like the pattern repeating itself.

Shooter, did you seriously believe Jarreguin was a mafioso because he did something stupid? Weren't you killed for being a noob in the past rounds? Hell, you mentioned it yourself:

If someone could relate to Jarreguin's situation, it would probably be you. Yet you chose to kill him. Don't you find that odd?

Here's what I'm thinking: maybe Shooter, Deino or even both of them are mafia. Jarreguin's mistake was a reasonable excuse to vote on him, so they used it. And no one would really object; Jarr attracted a lot of negative attention the moment he voted on Craigmond.

Also, there's this interesting little comment all the way back in the first page:


On day 1, Ali casually implies he'll keep an eye on Shooter. On night 1, Ali gets killed. That looks a tiny bit suspicious, doesn't it?

Shooter and UltraDeino, I'd like to hear what you have to say for yourselves.

NOTE: Before I defend myself I hope you can also take into account the TRADER role.

I thought for once that a mafia member would do obvious actions to seem innocent and take advantage of this idea that civilain noobs would do. Isn't that Jarrs unique trait in this game. If someone from the mafia was going to do this I would have assumed it to be Jarr. The first time I played this game I was killed off early for being a noob. My death was spearheaded by another civilain noob (sorry FreeAim) but this was during the height of activity on the game where nearly all people were active. The second game I was killed off by two mafioso because no-one was around to at least stop it from happening (on an unrelated note that death was also spearheaded by FreeAim)

Ali also did this with Ryan and I RESPONDED to that theory.

Also to the priest can you please give us an extra day to investigate the mafia.

Now the question (sorry for being all over the place), NO. Simple as that because the mafia can change their tactics easily and can throw us off track leading to some surprising results on who is or isn't mafia. Now may I also say I agree with Butter about the inactives the mafia in previous games haven't been as active and usually there is one or two that give the illusion.

If you have more questions (or want me to elaborate on something) then ask.
2013-09-28 00:57:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


NOTE: I WAS MAKING THIS AS A REPLY TO SNIPEY'S POST, I WAS TYPING IT BEFORE JAR AND SHOOTER MADE THEIR POSTS

To be fair, this is my first real game of mafia. I know that Jar was pretty bad, but to be honest, I thought Jar learned sorta from his mistakes. Besides, we weren't the only ones that voted for Jar. Look at Emu and Ryan. One of them was a civilian, and the other didn't even know he was mafia. There was also Jedi, who we don't even know what faction he's in yet.

I was actually making a mega post about shooter. I unfortunately went afk, but luckily you didn't take all of the things I was gonna mention.
Let's look at the first quote:


Ali also made an accusation against Ryan, and in the last game the mafia would've wanted rid of you as you had both single-handledly killed a mafia member on the first day. Ali also stated after the supposed accusation that it was to get the ball rolling and to make people think. Please also take into account the fact that it was for something minor, as i did not specifying who was the scum I was refering to. Also look at my post that responds to his original accusation.


I wanted to point out that Shooter's excuse is that Ali mentioned a "minor thing", which was a good enough excuse just to get him out of the problem for that moment. Sounds mafia to me.

Another thing I'd like to mention, before heading to the next quote relating to Shooter is this quote that Jar made:


I have to give props to the mafia for doing the perfect tatics to make me look like a mafia guy. Think about it, the mafia got rid of Ryan who voted for me. They want me to look like the mafia. If you still want to vote me out though, go ahead. Kill a civilian that looks guilty, just like every mafia game ever played. Think, then believe, then know that I am innocent. I am.

Why does this matter? Well, it makes perfect sense, right? Wrong. Even though I didn't voted for him in the round, I certainly did have the most aggressive interaction against Jar that day (as well as the day after, really). So it'd make more sense to lynch me instead of Ryan. So, why did the mafia lynch Ryan? I think this quote says it:


Wait if you think flamingemu is a CIVILAIN (do you?) and you're voting for him and in the morning if he is revealed innocent you will then vote Jar despite the fact you to are bandwagoning. It sounds like this could be a great way to get rid of two innocents right away.

NOTE:this is a theory and hasn't been completely thought out...... Yet.

Basically, he was adding suspicion to me. He was trying to see if after his team killed Ryan, then add suspicion to me, then I'd get lynched. Since Jar lived Day 3 instead of emu, then Shooter can add suspicion to me for voting for Jar for, but at the same time, he knew that barely anyone would vote for him anymore, so he had to act as if he thought both me and Jar were mafia. Evidence in this quote:



I thought that you would vote Jar and the fact that two civilians basically dying by his hands doesn't put him in good standing here. You also accused him but now seemed to just simply back away now that Flammingemu has been declared innocent. I'm starting to think that the both of you are mafia since now two civilians have died by Jarr's hand and then you had voted for flam but when I pointed out how stupid your idea was, you immediately abstained.

Here's my theory on the situation.
This is a good tactic, however, one problem is that the theory is insane.
If both me AND Jar were mafia, then I'd not accuse him at all. Any sane mafia would just bandwagon at best. He could've easily convince people to take me out for suspicion of my risky move, but his mistake was to help me go against jar instead.

One thing I've noticed, Shooter made a complete 180 on Jar when Day 3 arrived. Sure, I got more aggressive as the days went on, but my trust on Jar decreased slowly, while Shooter's was completely sudden

He went from this:

That's the thing with Jar. Even if he is mafia he wouldn't have known about the buddy cop role and neither would the mafia. It was a very unlikley coincidence. Now Jar maybe did rush his vote because some people aren't active here but are posting elsewhere.

Here's something to consider: would the mafia let one of their members do something as crazy as what Jar did?

To this:


Jar you have already killed 2 civs this has made me believe you're mafia and I think it's time for some justice.

So, I think that says something, Shooter gets my vote.
2013-09-28 01:00:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Ultra the 180, now I look back on that and think what was I doing. One of my theories was insane. I was trying to get people to think instead of lurking in the shadows. YES I also thought that both of you were mafia and right now I'm holding on to the idea Jarr was the TRADER but nobody seems to be taking that into account. For me you don't seem like the mafia type for me you're FreeAim from the second game.

I'm not organised enough to respond fully so I will answer questions.
2013-09-28 01:16:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I knew being alive was too good to last
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2013-09-28 03:21:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


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This melody was my whole childhood.
2013-09-28 03:26:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Ultra the 180, now I look back on that and think what was I doing. One of my theories was insane. I was trying to get people to think instead of lurking in the shadows. YES I also thought that both of you were mafia and right now I'm holding on to the idea Jarr was the TRADER but nobody seems to be taking that into account. For me you don't seem like the mafia type for me you're FreeAim from the second game.

I'm not organised enough to respond fully so I will answer questions.


Is there really only vanilla in this place.

Well poo the sheriffs dead. Jarr I'm sorry I thought you were mafia. It appears that now we have to play smart.



maybe you're the trader shooter.

the trader is supposed to act dumb and get voted upon, right? and you're pretty hung up on the role

I'm not 100% on this yet, but your reaction will give me some pieces. Also, a warning to other civs - take a good long look at shooters posts before you kill him. Myself, i'm not 100% he's mafia but I'm pretty close to voting for him
2013-09-28 03:29:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Sorry Shooter, but I have crucial evidence to reasons why Jar isn't the trader
The evidence, of course, is this quote:

Also, I am pretty sure Ryan got traded.
This basically tells that at the time, Jar thought Freeaim altered the trader role a bit. He probably didn't know that the sleeper agent was a role until Snipey explained it. Surely, if he didn't know that the trader and the sleeper agent were 2 separate roles at the time, he surely couldn't have been a trader.

Both of us took Jar's faction differently. It made us both look stupid, but I went on my normal day, but you keep thinking he's a mafia, being the trader.

This made me believe that you are the trader, Shooter, for both what megaextremist said and the fact that you are trying to pin the blame on someone with no evidence. And, if you are blaming Jar to be the trader, then you probably traded with me, concerning the bad blood between us. But I guess I'll never know until I die.
2013-09-28 05:09:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


You know what, I really appreciate that Deino.

P.S.: I am the creator of the trader rolde.
2013-09-28 05:19:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Why are you guys assuming the trader would set himself up on purpose just to look innocent once he died? That makes no sense. Why wouldn't he instead use his role to frame a civilian without getting himself killed?

If Jarreguin was the trader, what was his plan? To do something stupid, hoping people wouldn't react like they always have? If he got himself killed he'd be revealed as a civilian, and then what? How would that help him or the mafia? Why didn't the mafia vote out the person he traded with to make themselves look innocent? Hell, why didn't he use his role to frame Craigmond in the first place?

Sound like a pretty nonsensical plan, right?

I vote for Shooter. His excuses don't convince me at all.
2013-09-28 11:14:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Sorry Shooter, but I have crucial evidence to reasons why Jar isn't the trader
The evidence, of course, is this quote:

This basically tells that at the time, Jar thought Freeaim altered the trader role a bit. He probably didn't know that the sleeper agent was a role until Snipey explained it. Surely, if he didn't know that the trader and the sleeper agent were 2 separate roles at the time, he surely couldn't have been a trader.

Both of us took Jar's faction differently. It made us both look stupid, but I went on my normal day, but you keep thinking he's a mafia, being the trader.

This made me believe that you are the trader, Shooter, for both what megaextremist said and the fact that you are trying to pin the blame on someone with no evidence. And, if you are blaming Jar to be the trader, then you probably traded with me, concerning the bad blood between us. But I guess I'll never know until I die.

I had other quotes I wanted to post for you shooter, but for some reason they wouldn't show up. Just read through his posts

I also vote for shooter
2013-09-28 15:43:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Well since you guys probably won't change your minds I will congratulate the mafia on yet another victory over us civilians.2013-09-28 17:21:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Well since you guys probably won't change your minds I will congratulate the mafia on yet another victory over us civilians.

At least try to convince them otherwise. There is always the "backup" I have. Anywho, guys I still think it is amoney.
2013-09-28 20:05:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


At least try to convince them otherwise. There is always the "backup" I have. Anywho, guys I still think it is amoney.

Backup you say .

Besides they won't change their minds I have been in this situation before and the only thing that took away a vote was voting for myself. I won't do that this time tho (that's plan C ). May as well vote and that's Ultra. If anyone was mafia it was either you or Jarr. And the innocent is dead.

Edit: also I never tried to blame Jarr after his death for anything. I simply said the trader role was a possibility. ALSO MEGA I need some reasoning of your own here seems like your using "quotes won't show up" as an excuse to off me quickly and quietly.
2013-09-28 21:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Besides they won't change their minds I have been in this situation before and the only thing that took away a vote was voting for myself. I won't do that this time tho (that's plan C ). May as well vote and that's Ultra. If anyone was mafia it was either you or Jarr. And the innocent is dead.
Is that another 180? You just said last night that you don't think that I am mafia. This is really supporting my theory that you traded with me.
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Edit: also I never tried to blame Jarr after his death for anything. I simply said the trader role was a possibility.

right now I'm holding on to the idea Jarr was the TRADER.

If someone from the mafia was going to do this I would have assumed it to be Jarr.
kinda contradicting yourself, dude
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ALSO MEGA I need some reasoning of your own here seems like your using "quotes won't show up" as an excuse to off me quickly and quietly.
This is something to take account, actually. Quotes should be able to show up in the forum.

So yeah, 2 suspects to me so far.
2013-09-28 22:00:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Just a friendly reminder (not to affect the course of the game or anything) that when a person has been traded, they will be informed of this and they will not be allowed to make mention of this to anyone, penalty for this being a ban from any following mafia games (this was a deal made during the last game and may change in the future).2013-09-28 22:09:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Backup you say .

Besides they won't change their minds I have been in this situation before and the only thing that took away a vote was voting for myself. I won't do that this time tho (that's plan C ). May as well vote and that's Ultra. If anyone was mafia it was either you or Jarr. And the innocent is dead.

Edit: also I never tried to blame Jarr after his death for anything. I simply said the trader role was a possibility. ALSO MEGA I need some reasoning of your own here seems like your using "quotes won't show up" as an excuse to off me quickly and quietly.

when I say other quotes, I didn't mean any new arguements against you, simply more evidence as to why I think you might be the trader

so, copy-pasted quotes -

This is a good point but we can't rule out the possibility he planned this as an excuse. HOWEVER last game I was lynched by 2 mafioso, this made me think that the mafia wouldn't let one of their members make such a suicidal move especially this early and Jars record in this game speaks for itself.

Wait if you think flamingemu is a CIVILAIN (do you?) and you're voting for him and in the morning if he is revealed innocent you will then vote Jar despite the fact you to are bandwagoning. It sounds like this could be a great way to get rid of two innocents right away.

NOTE:this is a theory and hasn't been completely thought out...... Yet.

So Flammingemu was voted on by Burn and Jar but who voted Jar? (Just wondering)

I'm not sure why you're saying i would be accusing Dawn and Cog If you could please explain (sorry my brain is fried)

Anyways might as well put in my first vote and Jar it's for you. He has been involved in the deaths of two civilians and I think it's time some justice is done. If we aren't going to bat an eyelid to this then he, and his possible fellow mafiosos, can kill civilians at will. Sorry Jar.

Also Snipy just try to imagine yourself being screamed at by everyone in the world. That is what is happening.


granted, there's not a lot here in the first place and it is kinda flimsy. but these aren't all.

first argument made against shooter: ali-star says something that makes him look suspicious, ali-star dies. (this was already discussed by I believe snipy)

another interesting thing - ali says jar voting for craig makes him very suspicious that night. ryan also says something, and he's dead too. I don't know if Jar is/was the trader, the mafia's planned tradee, or what, but it looked alot like the mafia wanted him alive

so, next thing - after burn and jar (both civilians) vote for flame, shooter jumps to put both in the limelight for doing so, yet doesn't really defend flame at the same time. In the eyes of a mafia member, this would be the perfect opportunity to harm three birds with one stone

It might take me a bit longer for responses as I'm trying to figure out what im doing wrong with the quotes

EDIT: one more thing - I'm gonna repeat what ultradeino said - that fact that you planned on voting for yourself (and saying it out loud) is something you can't ignore if you're trying to find the trader
2013-09-28 23:11:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Mega I was joking about plan C, hence the , and now I'm satisfied because you are atleast voting with reason and not trying to slip under the radar.

And again i'll congratulate the mafia on another flawless victory.
2013-09-28 23:24:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Just a friendly reminder (not to affect the course of the game or anything) that when a person has been traded, they will be informed of this and they will not be allowed to make mention of this to anyone, penalty for this being a ban from any following mafia games (this was a deal made during the last game and may change in the future).

Oh, the first post didn't explain the pm thing well. Guess I'm not traded then.
2013-09-29 00:02:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Goats.2013-09-29 19:12:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Goats.

Go oranges attack trainee sailors?
2013-09-29 19:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I was certain I had forgot something. Now I remember what that was.

The night begins, with Shooter leading as far as votes are concerned. If there will be no interference, Shooter will be shot.
2013-09-30 18:21:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I was certain I had forgot something. Now I remember what that was.

The night begins, with Shooter leading as far as votes are concerned. If there will be no interference, Shooter will be shot.

No creative thought for my death, just shot.
2013-09-30 19:31:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


No creative thought for my death, just shot.

Oh, but shooting can be creative. Have you ever seen any Tarantino-movies? (I did not mention Pulp Fiction. Stop it. Just. Stop. It.)
2013-10-01 07:35:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Did somebody say PuLP FiCtIOn

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2jr4uAwn1raslbwo1_500.gif
2013-10-01 07:58:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Did somebody say PuLP FiCtIOn

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2jr4uAwn1raslbwo1_500.gif

hmmmm pulp fiction, pulp fiction, pulp fiction, pulp...
2013-10-01 17:33:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46975&d=1380650125

Prepare yourselves, civilians and mafiosi alike and follow the path of wisdom, laid down before you. The hunt begins!




In other news, goats.
2013-10-01 18:57:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I hope you all die2013-10-01 18:59:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I hope you all die

That's not very nice.
2013-10-01 19:00:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Well done to the priest we now have more time to atleast get rid of the mafia.

I'll start the voting with Ultra and make a final descision later.
2013-10-01 19:53:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So who's the goat...

Ain't me for "obvious" reasons.

In other news Amoney
2013-10-01 20:02:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Okay, I have mixed feelings about this turn of events.

For one, I was (and still am) fairly convinced Shooter is a mafioso. If that's the case, the priest's lecture stalled us as much as the mafia. If Shooter isn't mafia, then kudos for probably saving the game.

On the other hand, we now know one person we can trust for sure and that's Butter-kicker.


So here are my thoughts: even though I think Shooter's not to be trusted, if there's another person I also don't trust one bit, it's UltraDeino. He's been pretty agressive against Shooter since I accused him, an agression that has been mutual between the two. This behaviour warrants some investigation, don't you guys think?

I'll give it another round to see if I can figure these two out before voting against any of them. Meanwhile, I'll vote on someone else. We can't afford to abstain in this stage of the game.

Butter, what makes you so sure Amoney is a mafioso? He could just be inactive.
2013-10-01 21:39:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Okay, I have mixed feelings about this turn of events.

For one, I was (and still am) fairly convinced Shooter is a mafioso. If that's the case, the priest's lecture stalled us as much as the mafia. If Shooter isn't mafia, then kudos for probably saving the game.

On the other hand, we now know one person we can trust for sure and that's Butter-kicker.


So here are my thoughts: even though I think Shooter's not to be trusted, if there's another person I also don't trust one bit, it's UltraDeino. He's been pretty agressive against Shooter since I accused him, an agression that has been mutual between the two. This behaviour warrants some investigation, don't you guys think?

I'll give it another round to see if I can figure these two out before voting against any of them. Meanwhile, I'll vote on someone else. We can't afford to abstain in this stage of the game.

Butter, what makes you so sure Amoney is a mafioso? He could just be inactive.
Last Game:

Also, Amoney, our silent hero did participate in the game enough to correct one of my mistakes which could've cost the mafia the game. Just saying.


Amoney, very well done to you too, you did a good job at staying under the radar.


This Game:


Nothing but...

http://i44.tinypic.com/mljiu8.png

and he has a decent/normal for amoney activity rate. Just suspicions.

EDIT: He is online now for god's sake
2013-10-01 22:11:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Just because I did something last game doesn't mean that I'll do it again.2013-10-01 22:31:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


That evidence is pretty darning, especially the fact that he has been online without praticipating in this thread.

You've convinced me. I too vote on Amoney, at least for the time being.

EDIT: Hey, speak of the devil! Care to explain yourself, Amoney?
2013-10-01 22:38:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Just because I did something last game doesn't mean that I'll do it again.

Then why didn't you respond to my earlier accusations, its only now you decide to come out and actually say something. You are doing exactly what you did last game. It's just a question of whats your role is.
2013-10-01 22:39:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


So here are my thoughts: even though I think Shooter's not to be trusted, if there's another person I also don't trust one bit, it's UltraDeino. He's been pretty agressive against Shooter since I accused him, an agression that has been mutual between the two. This behaviour warrants some investigation, don't you guys think?

Actually, I was planning to accuse Shooter before you made your post. I unconventionally went afk before finishing my post though

Anyhow, the priest must be so sure to protect Shooter. As if Shooter himself is the priest. Really, I saw no one protecting him, so it's the most logical conclusion. Butter's definitely not the priest, because he would've used the powers to save Jar, and Shooter voted for him that round, so it makes sense.

So basically, at this point, I have no idea who is mafia and who is not.
2013-10-02 00:21:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


This idea came to me out of nowhere.

I have an idea for a role - The Double Agent. The thing about the Double Agent is that they are in the mafia chat and participate in mafia voting - but they are of the civilian alliance, and the mafia does not know which mafioso is the DA. The DA also participates, however, in the civilian vote - here's how. Since the mafia would easily be able to find out who the DA was by seeing them vote for a mafia member on the thread, the vote they place in the game thread (though they don't have to put a vote in the thread, obviously) is naught but a dud - their real vote goes to the game host in a PM.

The reason I came up with this is because there is a severe lack of drama on the mafia side of things - they know who the civilians are and aren't, after all. If there was one person among them who not who they thought, and they didn't know who, it would introduce some interesting discussion.

Oh, and one last thing - in order for the mafia to win, they must kill the DA (alongside the usual requirements, of course). I feel that this will especially help with how OP the mafia is - all they have to do is put on a (virtual) poker face, where as the civilians have to use an abundance of logical discussion (and luck). The mafia has been winning far too many games, and I think the DA would help balance things out and make the game a whole lot more interesting for mafia members.
2013-10-02 01:28:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


That evidence is pretty darning, especially the fact that he has been online without praticipating in this thread.

You've convinced me. I too vote on Amoney, at least for the time being.

EDIT: Hey, speak of the devil! Care to explain yourself, Amoney?

I agree. Kinda fishy that you showed up right when you're accused, makes it look like you've been reading the whole time.

Also, the priest thing is starting to change my mind on shooter, because nobody was defending him (although that might have been out of fear of being accused also) so the only person who would use a priest to keep shooter around would be shooter.
2013-10-02 01:37:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


This idea came to me out of nowhere.

I have an idea for a role - The Double Agent. The thing about the Double Agent is that they are in the mafia chat and participate in mafia voting - but they are of the civilian alliance, and the mafia does not know which mafioso is the DA. The DA also participates, however, in the civilian vote - here's how. Since the mafia would easily be able to find out who the DA was by seeing them vote for a mafia member on the thread, the vote they place in the game thread (though they don't have to put a vote in the thread, obviously) is naught but a dud - their real vote goes to the game host in a PM.

The reason I came up with this is because there is a severe lack of drama on the mafia side of things - they know who the civilians are and aren't, after all. If there was one person among them who not who they thought, and they didn't know who, it would introduce some interesting discussion.

Oh, and one last thing - in order for the mafia to win, they must kill the DA (alongside the usual requirements, of course). I feel that this will especially help with how OP the mafia is - all they have to do is put on a (virtual) poker face, where as the civilians have to use an abundance of logical discussion (and luck). The mafia has been winning far too many games, and I think the DA would help balance things out and make the game a whole lot more interesting for mafia members.

I think that role already exists (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor) I realised that the roles are similar, but not the same. Whoops. Doesn't mean that it's not a good idea. The next host for the mafia games should add that in
2013-10-02 02:09:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


I think that role already exists (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor) I realised that the roles are similar, but not the same. Whoops. Doesn't mean that it's not a good idea. The next host for the mafia games should add that in
Haha, didn't realize that existed.

Anyway, I think that since my idea has the DA speaking with the Mafia and having an allegiance with the civilians instead of with the Mafia, it changes the whole dynamic of it.
2013-10-02 02:31:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Also, the priest thing is starting to change my mind on shooter, because nobody was defending him (although that might have been out of fear of being accused also) so the only person who would use a priest to keep shooter around would be shooter.

Isn't Butter the priest? He implied he wasn't convinced about Shooter being mafia, and said he had some sort of "backup" to help with the situation.

Also, Shooter seemed to give up pretty easily, congratulating the mafia on another victory and such. It's the kind of behaviour you expect to see from a guy who's run out of options.
2013-10-02 04:27:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Okay, the double-agent role... I don't think it's all that good. Now, it would work in a game where the mafia has at least two other roles, but the point is that it's a role based entirely around making the mafiosi feel bad. It'd sort of become a mafia-ception, a mafia game inside a mafia game. While these don't make it bad, in the end the role has two options: too good or too bad and it depends entirely on the... Well, in fear of revealing game related information, from what I have seen, it depends heavily on the player's level of "aptitude" to the role.

Now, don't take this as me saying it's an all-bad role. It would definitely be a good addition, only it would demand that all the other roles are restructured and it'd take at least four other mafiosi. In addition, there's one big... Well, issue. How free is this role? Without right restrictions, he could just say here, in the forums, that: "The mafiosi are W, X, Y and Z! Lynch me to know I am speaking the truth!" Even if you did the obvious and made it so that the DA is revealed as "Mafioso" on the occasion of death, this role could still be the thing that causes the game either to be balanced or entirely ruined it.

To that end, let me reshape my first sentence all the way up there: Double agent role could, at best, create a more insidiously wonderful environment for the game... Or at worst, ruin the game completely.
2013-10-02 07:48:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Just wondering.... would anyone actually want another game of this? I'd be quite interested in hosting it, though I'd probably give it some time before actually starting again (few weeks to a month perhaps) to give people a breather. I have a few ideas for new roles to use (none of which I have divulged to you, FreeAim ).2013-10-02 10:16:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085



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