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Flem, I think you just shot yourself in the foot there. It seemed rather intentional actually, surely he knows of the dangers of that bold statement? Regardless of this, it makes him really suspicious and I'm voting him out for it. I vote Flamingemu2013-08-28 20:58:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


So Flem has done this and basically killed himself. I stick to my vote of Ryan however as I personally believe he's mafia and I stated my reasons before.2013-08-28 21:03:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I feel like flem might be the trader, throwing himself under the bus like that.

As for someone else (I can't remember who said it, it was a couple posts ago) accusing me of being the trader, the way I see it is if I was serious about getting myself killed (I'm pretty sure thats what he wants right?) wouldn't I just say something like "Let's see, which civilian do I want to kill first?"
2013-08-28 21:24:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Are you guys also getting a dej? vu from this whole situation?

I know he's voting for me, but I don't think FlamingEmu is mafia at all. Catching a mafioso is never this simple. I think Emu's gonna get lynched, and in the morning it'll be revealed he was just a civilian noob. Then we'll ask him why he did it, baffled that a civilian would commit such a huge faux-pas.

It happened with Shooter. It happened with FreeAim. It happened with mega. I think we're just repeating history.

Or he could just be the most obvious mafia man on the face of the Earth, dunno.
2013-08-28 21:34:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


It happened with Shooter. It happened with FreeAim.

Yeah I think people only voted FreeAim because I believed him to be mafia and when I was revealed civilian well people kinda took my word (okay Cog's words but whatever) and voted.

At least I will have survived one day longer than the last round.
2013-08-28 21:44:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


okay Cog's words but whatever


********CogMonkey
2013-08-28 21:53:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Wait. Or maybe Emu is mafia, and with all this secrecy he's trying to make people think he's the sheriff. I don't know. Nothing really surprises me anymore.2013-08-28 21:59:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Wait a minute.

Shooter didn't at all respond to me defending myself, saying he stated his reasons for voting on me while ignoring my defenses.
Shooter keeps asking when the day/night will come.
Shooter has yet to vote on anybody who didn't already have suspicion on them.

For now, because I want to take action, I vote on Shooter.
2013-08-28 22:01:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Wait a minute.

Shooter didn't at all respond to me defending myself, saying he stated his reasons for voting on me while ignoring my defenses.
Shooter keeps asking when the day/night will come.
Shooter has yet to vote on anybody who didn't already have suspicion on them.

For now, because I want to take action, I vote on Shooter.

Shooter's name has an S in it.
S is in Satan
Satan has 1 S and 2 a's. Adding them equals 3.

Half Life 3 confirmed!

That is the summary of your reasoning.
2013-08-28 22:05:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I looked at your defences and at that point I had already said I wasn't going to change otherwise a repeat of last game could easily happen with "odd voting behaviour"

Jar doesn't say when day or night ends in updates or at the beginning of the new days and I'm inpatient.

I never realised you suspected me. In fact that was my first and so far only vote of the game.
2013-08-28 22:09:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Looks like we're hitting that point in the game where everyone suspects everyone.2013-08-28 22:31:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Looks like we're hitting that point in the game where everyone suspects everyone.

This will make it difficult for the mafia to kill tho.
2013-08-28 22:33:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


It happened with Shooter. It happened with FreeAim. It happened with mega. I think we're just repeating history.


And it happened with me.
2013-08-28 22:34:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Looks like we're hitting that point in the game where everyone suspects everyone.

Pfft. No one suspects me.
2013-08-28 22:36:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Pfft. No one suspects me.
I don't think anyone suspects me at this point either.
2013-08-28 22:38:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Pfft. No one suspects me.

Acctually you're my number 3. Suspect
2013-08-28 22:38:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I looked at your defences and at that point I had already said I wasn't going to change otherwise a repeat of last game could easily happen with "odd voting behaviour"

Jar doesn't say when day or night ends in updates or at the beginning of the new days and I'm inpatient.

I never realised you suspected me. In fact that was my first and so far only vote of the game.
That was your first vote? Sorry about the confusion regarding that, I was on my Vita and it would've been a pain in the butt to go back and look through all of your posts.
However, my vote stays. This being your only vote only invalidates one of my points, and there's reasons I suspect you other than that.
2013-08-28 22:40:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Acctually you're my number 3. Suspect

Pourquoi?


That was your first vote? Sorry about the confusion regarding that, I was on my Vita and it would've been a pain in the butt to go back and look through all of your posts.
However, my vote stays. This being your only vote only invalidates one of my points, and there's reasons I suspect you other than that.

HUR HUR HUR. butt
2013-08-28 22:58:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Pourquoi?



HUR HUR HUR. butt

Why are you speaking like this?
2013-08-28 23:04:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Why are you speaking like this?

Pourqoui? is French for why.

Did the ? not give it away?
2013-08-28 23:05:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I feel like everybody's just getting mad and saying, oh yeah well you're in the mafia! without taking time to think things over. cmon guys, really look at the posts, and don't just randomly say "I vote for whoever" without stating some good reasons2013-08-28 23:09:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


I feel like everybody's just getting mad and saying, oh yeah well you're in the mafia! without taking time to think things over. cmon guys, really look at the posts, and don't just randomly say "I vote for whoever" without stating some good reasonsI vote for megaextremist. Because reasons.2013-08-28 23:22:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


I vote for megaextremist. Because reasons.

You caught me
2013-08-28 23:22:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


I retract my vote from Shooter, because the hurt in my butt is subsiding. No use blindly voting when we already have two civilians dead.2013-08-28 23:25:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


So the mafia,
assuming they're clever,
sacrifice themselves.

This allows Snipy,
by killing some mafia
to remain alive

Therefore Snipysev,
'civilian' mafioso
is safe to kill us.

We trust him past doubt
and so he is powerful,
therefore dangerous
2013-08-28 23:29:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


So the mafia,
assuming they're clever,
sacrifice themselves.

This allows Snipy,
by killing some mafia
to remain alive

Therefore Snipysev,
'civilian' mafioso
is safe to kill us.

A fair concern. But there are a few things you have to consider:

-Mafia are so few in number that sacrificing even one is incredibly risky. If this is like the last two games, there are only three or four of them left. For each mafioso they lose, they have to kill one more civ by the end of the game to gain numerical superiority.

-When people finally get the chance to play as a mafioso, they wouldn't just give that up and sacrifice themselves. I only see that happening in two situations: if said person has lost interest in the game or if there is an inactive player the mafia can afford to sacrifice. Burn is obviously neither of those.

-You could say "well then you just voted him out without his permission". Who would want to backstab their ally like that? If you throw your own people under the bus for your own gain, they won't hesitate to do the same to you if they get the chance.

-As we all know Burn has played this game several times, and he even hosted the first LBPC Mafia. He's arguably one of the most experienced players here. If the mafia chose to sacrifice one of their own, it would not be Burnvictim.

-This kind of gambit would be best played later on in the game when the stakes are higher, so the fact that some guy killed a mafioso would stay fresh in people's memories.

I'm not mafia. I just voted on Burn because it was a convenient 2-in-1: besides getting the ball rolling, it fulfilled my revenge. Him actually turning out to be a mafioso was a stroke of dumb luck.
2013-08-29 00:08:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


So the mafia,
assuming they're clever,
sacrifice themselves.

This allows Snipy,
by killing some mafia
to remain alive

Therefore Snipysev,
'civilian' mafioso
is safe to kill us.

We trust him past doubt
and so he is powerful,
therefore dangerous

I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers at snipy, he's probably at the top of my list of people I think aren't mafioso, he's made the most sense


I retract my vote from Shooter, because the hurt in my butt is subsiding. No use blindly voting when we already have two civilians dead.

It's ok , just keep your head man only way civilians will win
2013-08-29 00:39:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Well then, I'm screwed.
See all you losers in hell,
*abstains from voting*
2013-08-29 00:55:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Night begins once I finish my popcorn.2013-08-29 02:36:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Plot twist: Emu is actually the trader and is going to trade roles with me/Snipy, because hell, who wouldn't right now?
Btw, vote Dawn Emu.
2013-08-29 03:48:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I don't think Emu is mafia, despite the odd behaviour. Seems to be acting very lone-wolf like.


I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers at snipy, he's probably at the top of my list of people I think aren't mafioso, he's made the most sense


You can't get involved in tactical discussion once you're dead.
2013-08-29 09:42:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Night 3 begins. Send those PMs within 24 hours!2013-08-29 13:13:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


I don't think Emu is mafia, despite the odd behaviour. Seems to be acting very lone-wolf like.



You can't get involved in tactical discussion once you're dead.

Sorry, wasn't trying to influence or anything, just saying
2013-08-29 21:38:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Sorry, wasn't trying to influence or anything, just sayingWe get that, you just have to tone things down as a ghost. That way I don't pin REDACTED, REDACTED, REDACTED, and REDACTED as my fellow Mafiosi.2013-08-29 21:44:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


We get that, you just have to tone things down as a ghost. That way I don't pin REDACTED, REDACTED, REDACTED, and REDACTED as my fellow Mafiosi.
Thanks for letting us know the amount of mafia members
2013-08-29 21:49:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Is it day yet? 2013-08-29 22:04:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


...dooby dooby doo...2013-08-30 02:21:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS4Qj7NCUAAnHV5.jpg:large


-flamingemu: Civillian

-gdn001: Doctor


Day 4 begins..

..woah.
2013-08-30 02:23:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS4Qj7NCUAAnHV5.jpg:large


-flamingemu: Civillian

-gdn001: Doctor


Day 4 begins..

..woah.



that was... unexpected
2013-08-30 02:28:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS4Qj7NCUAAnHV5.jpg:large


-flamingemu: Civillian

-gdn001: Doctor


Day 4 begins..

..woah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6m0nWD1sMc
2013-08-30 02:42:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Wow, gdn was the doctor? I never saw any of this coming.2013-08-30 03:42:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Balls. Now, I am not a rocket-scientist, but in my mind there is a possibility that Emu was the trader. He voted for SnipySev, which I for one believe to be innocent due to his endeavors in the early game (with voting out Burn), he exclaimed that he is powerful, because people trust him due to this AND he wasn't willing to retract his vote in the end. However. HOW. EVER. If he was the trader, I've got to be honest, he didn't exactly take full advantage of his... Role. He only assumed that Snipy was mafia, but then he died. He didn't really get the chance to exclaim anyone else as mafia, which would've been the tactical thing to do, as he was the trader. Either this is the trader's potential wasted, OR he wasn't a mafioso at all.

I can't really tell who's a mafioso at this point. This "trader" is causing too much paranoia to me already. I will have to delve into the past comments of people who I find most suspicious. There will be a new mega-post, coming soon.
2013-08-30 06:01:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


gdn, no... I'll do my best to avenge you, man.

As for flamingemu being the trader... if he was, he didn't trade places with me. He was probably a noob civilian, as I predicted. Obviously I can't prove it, but do you guys seriously think an actual mafia member would single himself out like that?

We did what we always do: we assumed the mafia would make an obvious blunder, even though that never really happens. We can't afford to wait for them to make a mistake; they won't.

I'll post again later today, maybe after I re-read the whole thread.
2013-08-30 06:46:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Gah, I thought gdn was the doctor after he was saved. Rock did the same last game.
Shame we got rid of a civilian, but you did try and vote for someone who is highly likely to be innocent.
As for shooter, the bartender appears to have thought you were in need of a drink. Any thoughts as to why?

I'm going to vote for Spazz for now. Mainly because he isn't here, though if he doesn't post he dies anyway after a certain time right?
2013-08-30 09:11:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Thanks for letting us know the amount of mafia members

Hmmmm.... you might actually be on to something there. Not that it'd give us any real clues, but it'd let us know how many we're up against at least.


I'm going to vote for Spazz for now. Mainly because he isn't here, though if he doesn't post he dies anyway after a certain time right?

Well, if that's the case, why not just let him die of "natural causes" rather than wasting a vote? Suspicious, Jedi. Suspicious indeed.
2013-08-30 09:40:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


How long until I get to say "I told you so"2013-08-30 10:38:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


How long until I get to say "I told you so"

59 minutes.
2013-08-30 11:01:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Hmmmm.... you might actually be on to something there. Not that it'd give us any real clues, but it'd let us know how many we're up against at least.



Well, if that's the case, why not just let him die of "natural causes" rather than wasting a vote? Suspicious, Jedi. Suspicious indeed.

Hence why I was asking, if he's going to die anyway I'll change my vote.
2013-08-30 11:38:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


They got gdn?

**** it. That's 3 civilians dead.
2013-08-30 12:57:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


That was really not good :/ We lost a doctor, and still no more mafia dead. I don't believe that Flem was the trader, I think he/she could probably still be out there, but it is possible that Flem was the Trader, I just find it unlikely. I think we now need to start looking at those who aren't posting, It's them who aren't giving us a chance to see if they strike us as suspicious or not. There are 11 of us left and maybe three or four mafia left, if we play our cards right we could pull out a victory still. I don' think Snipy is mafia, I'm certain he's civilian, as for the others, I'm undecided. Shooter, I don't know, I'm on the fence with you.2013-08-30 15:41:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Well there goes Craigmond is the doctor theory.

Good Book:
SnipySev
Myself.

That is all.
2013-08-30 16:01:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Dang that drink felt nice but every time my name is mentioned in the paper it makes me feel scared. Also bartender I left the money on the counter don't know if you got it.

Anyways the Flem lead was a bust so I'll be looking at my two main suspects. In the meantime however I'll be sleeping off this hangover.
2013-08-30 16:02:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Butter-Kicker, Butter-Kicker... Who are you and what's your role in the game? This is what I have been trying to find out, but I am too tired to mega-post about him yet. I'll do it in the morning or something, I don't know.2013-08-30 21:00:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Butter-Kicker, Butter-Kicker... Who are you and what's your role in the game? This is what I have been trying to find out, but I am too tired to mega-post about him yet. I'll do it in the morning or something, I don't know.

I am a civilian. The coolest, most non-chalant Civilian ever.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hrrbvSq2BVQ/UNb72TLuhEI/AAAAAAAAAf0/IZar-X5L_JQ/s1600/deal+with+it.gif
2013-08-30 21:08:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Only maffioso have THAT much sunglasses. :kz: Vote for B-K2013-08-30 21:09:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482


Only maffioso have THAT much sunglasses. :kz: Vote for B-K

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9snxh0jn91revsmeo1_250.gif
2013-08-30 21:14:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I'm acctually starting to think Butter is mafia these random off topic posts (check he has done more than me) allow him to appear active but is not helping find the mafia. When I voted for Ryan I also mentioned Butter as suspicious but can't remember what I said exactly. For now I vote Butter.

NOTE: This is subject to change when I review this decision later.
2013-08-30 22:01:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I'm acctually starting to think Butter is mafia these random off topic posts (check he has done more than me) allow him to appear active but is not helping find the mafia. When I voted for Ryan I also mentioned Butter as suspicious but can't remember what I said exactly. For now I vote Butter.

NOTE: This is subject to change when I review this decision later.

If I was mafia, I would've persuaded the other Mafioso's to vote for Craig. As I believed he was the doctor at some point. Also you'd be dead. I am a civilian with no accusations to make. Simple as that.
2013-08-30 22:29:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


After re-reading the thread, there's someone I find highly suspicious. That person is Craigmond. Strap yourselves in, it's megapost time.

gdn is the first one to participate by voting on Nys, saying that it's just to start things up. Craigmond says nothing about this.

The second person to vote is Craigmond himself. He votes on megaextremist, which we now know was a civilian with a certain degree of certainty (unless he was the trader, but it seems unlikely). He also claims it's to "get the ball rolling".

Imma get the ball rolling and vote megaextremist, not because he is suspicious but because voting is the only way to start the whole thing

As necessary as it is, getting the ball rolling is a great excuse to kill a random civ. Everyone's basically guessing during the first round, so it's not like people will suspect you if you get an innocent killed. The next round you can just say "welp, that was unlucky" and no one will bat an eye.

After that Shooter points out gdn already voted on someone, so Craigmond retracts his vote:

Oh I missed that :3 I retract my vote, I'll wait and see who gets all suspicious.

Maybe Nys is a civilian and Craigmond knew it, so he retracted his vote to draw less attention to himself. Let gdn get his hands dirty.

Then I vote for Burnvictim, because even if he turned out to be a civilian I wouldn't have felt sorry for him, since I wanted revenge. gdn does the same, as he was also wronged by Burn's vigilante shenanigans. Things start to get interesting:

I vote for you GDN, because I find it odd you're using revenge from the last game as a light-hearted reason to vote another out. I know it's just because you want to vote random, but it's still an odd reason.


So, let's recap:
-gdn votes for Nys for no reason other than to get the ball rolling. Craigmond's okay with this.
-Craigmond himself votes on mega, a civilian, for no reason other than to get the ball rolling. Then retracts his vote after seeing gdn was already voting on Nys.
-gdn and I vote on Burnvictim, to get the ball rolling and for sweet, sweet revenge. This time Craigmond suddenly denounces this and votes on gdn.


After that, people get a little bit suspicious of Craig. He realizes his mistake. gdn makes the point that voting with no good reason is necessary to get the game started. Craig agrees with him and still maintains his vote, claiming it's for the exact reason gdn just stated:

I wouldn't say I'm siding with either of you here, and I do realise the point your making, it's a good one and you're right. We o need to make accusations to get the game into flight, I'll keep my vote on you though, just to (as you said) make accusation, based on nothing, now that you've reasoned with me.

He bothered to retract his vote on mega, but kept his vote on gdn, using the same excuse gdn used for voting on Burnvictim. Dodgy, right?



The morning of the second day arrives. Boom, jackpot. Burn's mafia after all. Craigmond's reaction?

Unlucky Dawn I can't see any reason why the mafia would want to go for you of all people

But that being said, we are one step closer to ridding this town of...mafia scum :kz:

gdn and I turned out to be right, Craig turned out to be wrong. He doesn't admit that in any way. You'd think he'd say something about it right? But no. His reaction is unremarkable and inconspicuous, and it doesn't attract anyone's attention. Exactly the way a mafioso would need to behave if he happened to make a mistake and needed to slip under the radar again.

Does it work? Yes and no. gdn says he'll remember Craig's outburst, but for now he'd vote on someone who seemed more suspicious: megaextremist.

Okay, time for a debriefing:

Assuming that Craig would attempt to turn everybody onto me to save Burn seems like a shallow assumption, but I'll keep that for later use.

Going to have to agree with Ryan here. After Burn turning out to be mafia this also seems like a last ditch effort to save him. :kz:

Right now, MegaExtremist is the most suspicious in my book, so I vote for him.

What does Craig do next? He votes on mega:

I'm afraid that whether or not Megaextremist is 'noob' or not, I'm going to vote him off. I can sympathize and understand that some comments can be made that were true and innocent, but look really suspicious, when new to the game you make these mistakes a lot. I did in my first time playing the game, and I was a civilian then too. I will vote you though, because it's not worthy taking the chance, heck, I would've killed myself in my first game I came a cross as so suspicious, sorry mega :/

People are turning on mega (who we now know is a civilian), and Craigmond jumps on the bandwagon to ensure he's killed. He says that it's very likely that mega's just a noob civilian, but he's voting on him anyway because he doesn't want to take any chances.

This strikes me as foresight. If Craig's a mafioso, he knew megaextremist was just a civilian who simply made a faux pas. So he made that post I copy-pasted above. If people got suspicious of him when mega was inevitably revealed a civilian, he could just say "look, I recognized that he was probably just a noob civilian, but he looked really suspicious anyway so I wasn't going to take any chances".



Day 3 begins. It is revealed the mafia attacked gdn, but the doctor (gdn himself) managed to save him.

gdn, the guy who said he'd remember craigmond's defense of Burnvictim, is almost assassinated. And the next night, the mafia try to kill him again, this time successfully. Coincidence?

Craig's next post:

So mega was a civilian, and GDN was saved by the doctor?

Well I'm glad we at least managed to save gdn. I have to say though, that although Mega was a civvie he was suspicious and we have to realise that it was probably for the best to take no chances with him :/ As for my suspects, I have to say agree with Freeaim that Shooter was rather anxious overnight, but that being said, that could be put down to boredom and isn't that strong an argument, let it be noted that he is suspicious though.

I think it's safe to say gdn is a civilian, and his buddy Snipy. As for the others here, I am not sure. I don't want to just bandwagon against shooter when the evidence against him is thin, even although it is some form of proof that he could be mafiosso. What we don't want though is to jump to conclusions and race shooter out of the game only to find out that he's a civilian.

As I said, he used the "it's for the best not to take any chances" excuse for voting on mega.

This time he doesn't directly accuse anyone, probably figuring he'd better lay low for a while. He only says he suspects Shooter and FreeAim. I don't know about Shooter, but I don't think FreeAim is mafia. He didn't really care when gdn and I accused Burnvictim (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=81427-LBPC-Mafia-After-Darkness-Day-4-Begins!/page7). If FreeAim were mafia, I think he would've jumped to Burn's defense.

What did Craig mean, "I think it's safe to say gdn is a civilian"? He got attacked by the mafia overnight. The fact that gdn was a civilian was a given. He probably didn't want to seem sure of it because most times only mafiosi know a person's faction with 100% certainty, so it could have attracted unwanted attention.


Later on, the pattern repeats itself. Flamingemu makes a huge mistake by voting on me. Craig takes the opportunity to vote out another civilian, being able to use said civilian's noobish mistake as a justification:

Flem, I think you just shot yourself in the foot there. It seemed rather intentional actually, surely he knows of the dangers of that bold statement? Regardless of this, it makes him really suspicious and I'm voting him out for it. I vote Flamingemu


Because of his reaction to me and gdn voting on Burn during the first day, his inconsistent behaviour, the assassination attempts on gdn, and his constant voting on people who are then revealed to be civilians, I vote on Craigmond.
2013-08-30 23:24:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


*grabs popcorn*2013-08-30 23:31:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


*grabs popcorn*

Butter-Kicker: Captain! Popcorn gif's dead ahead.

Mega: Mother of god.
2013-08-30 23:48:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I am a civilian. The coolest, most non-chalant Civilian ever.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hrrbvSq2BVQ/UNb72TLuhEI/AAAAAAAAAf0/IZar-X5L_JQ/s1600/deal+with+it.gif
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/389/759/56e.jpg
The Bear sunglasses make that gif.
2013-08-31 00:01:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Well Snipy, that certainly was a mega post. I'm afraid I'll have to correct you/straighten some points there though.

I'll agree at the start I was inconsistent. I wanted to get the ball rolling then persecuted those for doing the same, strange I know. There's no escaping that. However, i didn't retract my vote to keep my hands clean, I did it because the ball had already been rolled by GDN.

As for the bandwagon jumping, yeah, I did a little, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that they were suspicious. I voted for them, and showed my face. If I was mafia I would have kept a low profile and not vote out the inevitable. Thus nobody could accuse of bandwagon jumping etc. But I voted on who I thought most suspicious, and they happened to be those in danger of elimination.

To say that I jumped to the defense of Burn would be true, for the fact that I saw the word revenge and thought it was weird, seriously. It was mainly just to get reaction too if I'm honest, open up the group more I guess, but if I was mafia there would be no way I would make it so obvious that I was protecting him. In fact, the best thing for me (if mafia) would've been to go against him to give me immunity in later rounds.

I don't think I ever partnered myself with Freeaim, but I don't have much against him either.
As silly as it may sound, I don't like to say, I'm 100% because there have been times where I thought I was in the past and was wrong. If I claim to be correct, no doubt, then I'm wrong, it looks bad on me.

So to sum up, I can see why you may be suspicious but I do have method behind the way I've played that explain my inconsistency fairly well.
2013-08-31 00:20:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_2.gif

*zwish*
2013-08-31 01:04:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Don't worry guys I have food covered....

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2013-08-31 01:08:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I'm just going to wait for now to see how all this plays out.

*takes a bite of mega's popcorn*
2013-08-31 01:09:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


*Slaps ryan's hand*2013-08-31 01:33:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Fine, I'll make my own popcorn. Just let me use your microwave real quick...2013-08-31 01:40:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


*cuts microwave wire with a zwish*2013-08-31 02:30:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Good to see Snipy carrying my legacy on.

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((If I could thank posts here, I would thank that post 400 times.))
2013-08-31 03:07:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Okay, now. I saw Snipy’s megapost about Craigmond. Now, don’t take this as me, jumping in as Craig’s defense. I’m here only and only because if we are going to bandwagon someone, we need to be certain he or she is a Mafioso. There are, sadly, some parts in Snipy’s megapost that aren’t exactly “fair” to any extent. Therefore, I don’t see it as my duty, but I see it as common sense to talk about these parts. And yes, I also know that megaposts are mainly based on theorizing, but I still need to touch on these matters...



“The second person to vote is Craigmond himself. He votes on megaextremist, which we now know was a civilian with a certain degree of certainty (unless he was the trader, but it seems unlikely). He also claims it's to "get the ball rolling".”

”As necessary as it is, getting the ball rolling is a great excuse to kill a random civ. Everyone's basically guessing during the first round, so it's not like people will suspect you if you get an innocent killed. The next round you can just say "welp, that was unlucky" and no one will bat an eye.”

It was the first day, for crying out loud. If there are… I don’t know, four or five Mafiosi in the game, there is over 66% chance to accidentally hit a civilian. You can’t judge the person for doing that. If you could, that would be illogical in so many ways, that there is not enough space in a single comment for listing all of that.


“So, let's recap:
-gdn votes for Nys for no reason other than to get the ball rolling. Craigmond's okay with this.
-Craigmond himself votes on mega, a civilian, for no reason other than to get the ball rolling. Then retracts his vote after seeing gdn was already voting on Nys.
-gdn and I vote on Burnvictim, to get the ball rolling and for sweet, sweet revenge. This time Craigmond suddenly denounces this and votes on gdn.”

Even though Craig’s motives at this point are ultimately wrong and even though we now know Burn was a Mafioso, believe it or not, I can see some sense behind his actions. Craigmond only tried to get the ball rolling because he didn’t know GDN already had. Besides, GDN, who we now know to be a civilian tried to kill Nys at that point for the same exact reason Craig voted for Mega. To get the ball rolling. It’s a completely valid reason to do so.

In the very end, Craig’s motives for voting GDN are as strong… No, scratch that, his motives are stronger than GDN’s motives for voting Burn. Why? Because the most suspicious thing one can do in this game is voting for someone, based on out-of-game motives. This is not dodgy play. This is a perfectly ordinary way to respond to such incomprehensibly poor motives. Seriously, the only reasons why I can now look beyond using those motives are that it was the first day and you actually got it right.


“gdn and I turned out to be right, Craig turned out to be wrong. He doesn't admit that in any way. You'd think he'd say something about it right? But no. His reaction is unremarkable and inconspicuous, and it doesn't attract anyone's attention. Exactly the way a mafioso would need to behave if he happened to make a mistake and needed to slip under the radar again.”

His actions are indeed, suspicious, but only if you look at them from this point in the game. He wanted people to forget his misplays. It’s a perfectly ordinary thing to do, even if you are a civilian.


“Because of his reaction to me and gdn voting on Burn during the first day, his inconsistent behaviour, the assassination attempts on gdn, and his constant voting on people who are then revealed to be civilians, I vote onCraigmond.”

I would like some sort of explanation here: what is this “inconsistent behavior” you mentioned. Don’t take this as me being a tough guy here. I seriously don’t know what you mean with that. You already mentioned him voting on GDN and his voting on people who turn out to be civilians. Anyway, we’ve only got one mafia member killed so far, remember? Therefore, judging anyone here by saying that they haven’t voted for Mafioso is the same thing as to say that you suspect everyone who didn’t vote for Burn, which again is the exact same thing as to say that you suspect everyone who isn’t you or GDN.

---

Now, once again, I am not jumping in front of Craig as a human shield. These are just some parts of your megapost I find illogical or just wrong. I find these things to be sort of forced motives for voting Craig. If you really want to get people suspect someone, you need to be fair on everything you say about them. If you aren’t, then your mega post is as good as saying something like: “I votez fer criaagman, becouz his play haz been dodgy and he haz voted on civvies and he tried to killz gdn the first day.” Except you’d probable use correct spelling and grammar. You get the point, I hope.

I am not saying you shouldn’t vote for Craig based on your motives. However, I have to say there’s someone even more suspicious out there at the moment and this someone is Nys, for the single reason of still voting people based on incomprehensibly poor motives. Him voting me in the past was random (2nd or 3rd day, can’t remember) and him voting Butter is not better. “He has too many sunglasses in his gif? Well, might as well vote for him.” All I’m saying that someone who votes people randomly at this point is more suspicious than someone voting wrong in the past.

However, I won't vote for him now. Because my motives aren't strong enough and nothing is more important than having a good motive.
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Peace, okay?
2013-08-31 08:12:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Well this has became intresting2013-08-31 11:20:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


The main reasons I suspect Craigmond is that he defended a mafioso, and that gdn was killed after he said he'd remember that. The fact that he voted on three civilians, including during the first round, only adds to the theory.


In the very end, Craig?s motives for voting GDN are as strong? No, scratch that, his motives are stronger than GDN?s motives for voting Burn. Why? Because the most suspicious thing one can do in this game is voting for someone, based on out-of-game motives. This is not dodgy play. This is a perfectly ordinary way to respond to such incomprehensibly poor motives. Seriously, the only reasons why I can now look beyond using those motives are that it was the first day and you actually got it right.

You can't be serious. As we've explained, the main reason gdn and I voted on Burn was still to get the ball rolling: getting revenge was just a bonus. It was just a matter of convenience: we voted on someone we wouldn't feel sorry for in case he turned out to be a civilian. How is that more reprehensible than just voting on someone at random?

There were no sensible reasons to vote on Nys, but when gdn did, Craigmond wasn't bothered by it. He even welcomed the action; he retracted his vote on mega after he was told about it.

Similarly, there were no sensible reasons to vote on Burnvictim. But when we did, Craigmond suddenly can't abide it, denouncing gdn out of the blue. Doesn't this sudden change of heart seem weird to you?


His actions are indeed, suspicious, but only if you look at them from this point in the game. He wanted people to forget his misplays. It's a perfectly ordinary thing to do, even if you are a civilian.

Actually when people screw up in this game, they usually admit it. Saying "Sorry guys, I bet on the wrong horse. Crap happens" is less suspicious than "Okay, let's pretend I didn't say anything".


I would like some sort of explanation here: what is this ?inconsistent behavior? you mentioned. Don?t take this as me being a tough guy here. I seriously don't know what you mean with that.

The inconsistent behaviour I'm referring to is him accepting gdn's completely random vote, and then being suddenly against his slightly less random vote. I don't see what the big deal is, even Craig himself admits he was being suspiciously inconsistent.


If you really want to get people suspect someone, you need to be fair on everything you say about them. If you aren?t, then your mega post is as good as saying something like: ?I votez fer criaagman, becouz his play haz been dodgy and he haz voted on civvies and he tried to killz gdn the first day.? Except you?d probable use correct spelling and grammar. You get the point, I hope.

I think you're being na?ve. Even if some parts of my argument are unfair or even outright wrong, it doesn't mean my whole argument is invalid. Know your fallacies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy), man.


I am not saying you shouldn?t vote for Craig based on your motives. However, I have to say there?s someone even more suspicious out there at the moment and this someone is Nys, for the single reason of still voting people based on incomprehensibly poor motives. Him voting me in the past was random (2nd or 3rd day, can?t remember) and him voting Butter is not better. ?He has too many sunglasses in his gif? Well, might as well vote for him.? All I?m saying that someone who votes people randomly at this point is more suspicious than someone voting wrong in the past.

Or maybe Nys is just out of touch with the game since he has participated so little, or he simply doesn't care, and therefore is trying to be wacky by voting at random.

Have you learned nothing? I'll point it out again: spotting a mafioso is never this easy. By voting at random Nys is painting a big red target on himself: a mafioso would never do that. The mafia will just bandwagon against innocent people who are already being voted on, so they don't seem suspicious. That's their usual MO. They won't single themselves out by being wild cards.
2013-08-31 11:24:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I've Always voted at random since I missed most of this game, but maybe I should re-read the thread and help out smiting the actual maffia instead of bringing more confusion. :B

EDIT: Waaaait, Burn is even more suspicious, because he has more sunglasses. :kz: (Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll stop now. :blush
2013-08-31 13:17:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482


Imma mega post when I get to my laptop. FreeAim, I like that you pointed out illogical arguments, it's leading to some nice discussion. So if I say anything stupid when I mega post, do tell.2013-08-31 15:20:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


The main reasons I suspect Craigmond is that he defended a mafioso, and that gdn was killed after he said he'd remember that. The fact that he voted on three civilians, including during the first round, only adds to the theory.



You can't be serious. As we've explained, the main reason gdn and I voted on Burn was still to get the ball rolling: getting revenge was just a bonus. It was just a matter of convenience: we voted on someone we wouldn't feel sorry for in case he turned out to be a civilian. How is that more reprehensible than just voting on someone at random?

There were no sensible reasons to vote on Nys, but when gdn did, Craigmond wasn't bothered by it. He even welcomed the action; he retracted his vote on mega after he was told about it.

Similarly, there were no sensible reasons to vote on Burnvictim. But when we did, Craigmond suddenly can't abide it, denouncing gdn out of the blue. Doesn't this sudden change of heart seem weird to you?



Actually when people screw up in this game, they usually admit it. Saying "Sorry guys, I bet on the wrong horse. Crap happens" is less suspicious than "Okay, let's pretend I didn't say anything".



The inconsistent behaviour I'm referring to is him accepting gdn's completely random vote, and then being suddenly against his slightly less random vote. I don't see what the big deal is, even Craig himself admits he was being suspiciously inconsistent.



I think you're being na?ve. Even if some parts of my argument are unfair or even outright wrong, it doesn't mean my whole argument is invalid. Know your fallacies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy), man.



Or maybe Nys is just out of touch with the game since he has participated so little, or he simply doesn't care, and therefore is trying to be wacky by voting at random.

Have you learned nothing? I'll point it out again: spotting a mafioso is never this easy. By voting at random Nys is painting a big red target on himself: a mafioso would never do that. The mafia will just bandwagon against innocent people who are already being voted on, so they don't seem suspicious. That's their usual MO. They won't single themselves out by being wild cards.

I addressed several of the issues that you outlined, you seem to have skimmed right over it as if trying to avoid any argument I have to put forward. My behavior is inconsistent, yes. But it's because of the nature of the game, things happen, opinions change. The reason I jumped to Burn's defense is that he had two people singling him out, like a sort of group part, which in the end got a result, but I don't remember seeing any reputable evidence against him. In contrast, my vote to get the ball rolling was just to get the ball rolling; one vote on one member to start up conversation and single out the real villains here. I never intended on voting out the ones whom I just picked at random, you guys on the other hand double teamed Burn and it seemed unfair. Unless of course there was real evidence to back up why you two suddenly decided that you would vote him out.
2013-08-31 16:47:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Alrighty, then. The drama-truck is coming to town for a moment. The following is a personal message from me to SnipySev. However, due to PMs being forbidden, I have to say this publicly:

Okay now. Snipy, I do agree that even my arguments are not entirely full-proof. However, as I said, that post wasn't me defending anyone. Just counter-theorizing, if that's a word. We can both be right here, in the end. Just not at the same time.

You yourself said, in your last post that spotting a mafioso is never so easy. Don't take this wrong, but what makes you so sure that you're voting the right person here? Because Craig has done some very flimsy voting in the game? It's never that easy to spot a mafioso! The obvious one is almost never a mafioso, I know. Trust me, I do. Still several people vote for the obvious one. You can't say all of them are mafiosi, can you?

If you connect two pieces of thread together in a mixed game like this, you have an equal possibility to vote for wrong person as everyone else. Having lots of experience in this game in the past doesn't make all your theories necessarily correct. I am not saying Craig is obviously innocent, because that would be stupid. He isn't. Then again, neither is Ryan. Neither is Shooter. Neither is Butter, Nys or me. Neither are you. Just because you are experienced in this game doesn't mean you are always right.

Now, try not to be offended from this part, Snipy. I need to be blatant. From the experience I have,I suggest you explain every theory you have now. Why? Because with GDN dead, you are (in case you are a civilian) the one player with most experience here. I may be completely off here, but I believe that now that no-one can save another civilian (as the doctor is dead) anymore, the mafiosi are coming for those players, who come off as the most powerful. I don't know how their minds work, though. They may come for someone less obvious civilian than you.

Now don't misunderstand this post, I am not provoking any hostile actions here. I am just explaining this game from MY viewpoint, so the chemistry between grows stronger and we learn to understand each other better. Snipy, you are the one with more experience out of the two of us. I am sure you know what to do, but I think you are suffering from the "Hot Fuzz -syndrome." You are so good that you don't know when to catch a breath.

Sigh... Now that I've got that out of myself, I guess it's time to sit back, switch my brain off and enjoy some drama myself. As much as I love contributing into the game, it gets pretty exhausting. And also, I am NOT giving you the pleasure of making a popcorn gif. Here's one that fits better to my situation.

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5Lq9q_460sa.gif
2013-08-31 19:26:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I addressed several of the issues that you outlined, you seem to have skimmed right over it as if trying to avoid any argument I have to put forward. My behavior is inconsistent, yes. But it's because of the nature of the game, things happen, opinions change. The reason I jumped to Burn's defense is that he had two people singling him out, like a sort of group part, which in the end got a result, but I don't remember seeing any reputable evidence against him. In contrast, my vote to get the ball rolling was just to get the ball rolling; one vote on one member to start up conversation and single out the real villains here. I never intended on voting out the ones whom I just picked at random, you guys on the other hand double teamed Burn and it seemed unfair. Unless of course there was real evidence to back up why you two suddenly decided that you would vote him out.

It doesn't work that way Craig. Who's going to feel threatened if people just vote on someone, see their reaction then retract their vote, and vote one someone else. That won't get you the results you need. To make an omelet, you need to break a few eggs.

Hell, Burn reacted like a civilian would when we voted on him. If you had voted on him just to get a reaction you wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

gdn and I explained this several times. I explained it in the same post when I cast my vote for Burn, and gdn explained it after you voted for him. Our main reason was still to get the ball rolling. Revenge just happened to be an additional motivator. How is that less reputable than doing an "Eeny meeny miny moe"?


@FreeAim Except Craig wasn't that obvious. Everyone seemed to have forgotten about that incident. GDN mentioned it when Burn was revealed to be mafia, and after that no one said a word about it.

I'm not sure I'm voting on the right person. I never said that. Then again, who is ever sure about the person they suspect.

I explained my reasons for suspecting Craig, and now you decide wether you vote on him or someone else. The time to remain neutral has long passed.
2013-08-31 21:05:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


It doesn't work that way Craig. Who's going to feel threatened if people just vote on someone, see their reaction then retract their vote, and vote one someone else. That won't get you the results you need. To make an omelet, you need to break a few eggs.

Hell, Burn reacted like a civilian would when we voted on him. If you had voted on him just to get a reaction you wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

gdn and I explained this several times. I explained it in the same post when I cast my vote for Burn, and gdn explained it after you voted for him. Our main reason was still to get the ball rolling. Revenge just happened to be an additional motivator. How is that less reputable than doing an "Eeny meeny miny moe"?


@FreeAim Except Craig wasn't that obvious. Everyone seemed to have forgotten about that incident. GDN mentioned it when Burn was revealed to be mafia, and after that no one said a word about it.

I'm not sure I'm voting on the right person. I never said that. Then again, who is ever sure about the person they suspect.

I explained my reasons for suspecting Craig, and now you decide wether you vote on him or someone else. The time to remain neutral has long passed.

Nobody will feel threatened, you're right. I realise that it was an error I made. However, I just felt that regardless of whether or not Burn was innocent, it was unfair for him to go out with no real evidence. I'm a bit of a softy in the respect that I wouldn't want someone voted out when there's nothing against them but at the same time I now understand that you need to pick out people randomly to get results.

The fact that you're using GDN's death against me is complete rubbish too, I'm sorry, but It's very far-fetched. He said he would be watching me, yes, but he and you killed the first mafia making you almost immune, the two of you. Both of you are clearly big posters with keen eyes looking out for potential mafia, and so it was either you or him the mafia would go after surely. Let's be honest, are the mafia really going kill off someone like Shooter, who pops around every now and then, or GDN who is watching so often? It's entirely coincidental that he said he had an eye on me.
2013-08-31 21:34:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Nobody will feel threatened, you're right. I realise that it was an error I made. However, I just felt that regardless of whether or not Burn was innocent, it was unfair for him to go out with no ****ing evidence. I'm a bit of a softy in the respect that I wouldn't want someone voted out when there's nothing against them but at the same time I now understand that you need to pick out people randomly to get results.

The fact that you're using GDN's death against me is complete rubbish too, I'm sorry, but It's very far-fetched. He said he would be watching me, yes, but he and you killed the first mafia making you almost immune, the two of you. Both of you are clearly big posters with keen eyes looking out for potential mafia, and so it was either you or him the mafia would go after surely. Let's be honest, are the mafia really going kill off someone like Shooter, who pops around every now and then, or GDN who is watching so often? It's entirely coincidental that he said he had an eye on me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJGk4ofc18

I vote Craigmond after reading this.
2013-08-31 21:50:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJGk4ofc18

I vote Craigmond after reading this.

Please explain why. Also the **** wasn't a swear, the word began with a D, not an F. I don't know why it censored it.
2013-08-31 22:11:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


That was one violent post you made there, Craig O_o.

Oh, and sorry for a lack of mega post on my end, killzone mercenary is really **** addicting.
2013-08-31 22:12:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


This is looking awfully familiar.

Suit yourselves. I am not going to take a bullet for anyone, even if I think you're doing the wrong thing voting for Craig. Granted, he might be revealed to be a mafioso, in which case, I salute you, as you're clearly better at this game than me in that case.
2013-08-31 22:18:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


That was one violent post you made there, Craig O_o.

Oh, and sorry for a lack of mega post on my end, killzone mercenary is really **** addicting.

No, no, no. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to come across as violent, the 'swear' word was not any word that would be seen as violent. As for the other stuff like "rubbish", I just think that it seems a bit fabricated as extra stuff to try and drag me down.

But since it looks like I could be making an exit now, I'll say this. You guys won't win this game in putting your entire faith in Snipy, or picking up on (admittedly) violent defenses (although, it isn't as bad if you saw the real word in the stars). I'm going to be revealed as a civilian, because it's what I am, I made some mistakes and whereas I might not think that it's enough to send me out of the game, it looks like I might be out.

Hopefully some of you might see that the evidence against me is thin, and support me to eventually get some mafia out.
2013-08-31 22:21:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


That's a swear word, Craig. I suggest you take off that word from your post. If someone gets a clever idea to report that post, you'll get a warning for bypassing the language-barrier thing or something. I don't know, I suggest you do that though.2013-08-31 22:27:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Please explain why. Also the **** wasn't a swear, the word began with a D, not an F. I don't know why it censored it.


Nobody will feel threatened, you're right. I realise that it was an error I made. However, I just felt that regardless of whether or not Burn was innocent, it was unfair for him to go out with no real evidence. I'm a bit of a softy in the respect that I wouldn't want someone voted out when there's nothing against them but at the same time I now understand that you need to pick out people randomly to get results.

The fact that you're using GDN's death against me is complete rubbish too, I'm sorry, but It's very far-fetched. He said he would be watching me, yes, but he and you killed the first mafia making you almost immune, the two of you. Both of you are clearly big posters with keen eyes looking out for potential mafia, and so it was either you or him the mafia would go after surely. Let's be honest, are the mafia really going kill off someone like Shooter, who pops around every now and then, or GDN who is watching so often? It's entirely coincidental that he said he had an eye on me.

1. It is not. You said it yourself GDN suspected you and he was attempted to be off not only once but twice. This makes it seem as if the mafia needed him gone. If he was going to be going against you next you'd most certainly be lynched due to GDN's experience persuading the rest of us to vote for you.


Unlucky Dawn I can't see any reason why the mafia would want to go for you of all people

But that being said, we are one step closer to ridding this town of...mafia scum :kz:

&


are the mafia really going kill off someone like Shooter?

They did kill someone like shooter before. Infact GDN was targeted straight after Dawn's death. This would probably of been to do the one night gap method. I.e. not killing GDN until one night after craigmond accused him. Therefore not making him look like a direct lead. surely the mafia would've killed GDN on the first night after they saw how dangerous he was, but no they waited a day, this would make certain people look less suspicious then they would've if GDN died first night. I.e. craig. You shot yourself in the back there.
2013-08-31 22:27:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Guys, I'm bored! D:2013-08-31 22:39:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23
Posts: 568


Guys, I'm bored! D:
And dead. Don't forget that.

Also, how can you be bored? There are three pages of seriously heart-wrenching drama and murder investigation for you to read written during this day (err, in-game day).
2013-08-31 22:44:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


1. It is not. You said it yourself GDN suspected you and he was attempted to be off not only once but twice. This makes it seem as if the mafia needed him gone. If he was going to be going against you next you'd most certainly be lynched due to GDN's experience persuading the rest of us to vote for you.


They did kill someone like shooter before. Infact GDN was targeted straight after Dawn's death. This would probably of been to do the one night gap method. I.e. not killing GDN until one night after craigmond accused him. Therefore not making him look like a direct lead. surely the mafia would've killed GDN on the first night after they saw how dangerous he was, but no they waited a day, this would make certain people look less suspicious then they would've if GDN died first night. I.e. craig. You shot yourself in the back there.



But you're missing the point Butter, if he is only suspicious, that doesn't bother me, or worry me. It's when they get accusatory that it bothers me. The mafia were very likely to kill off GDN, because of his significance on the game, he is clearly very good at it. Wanting to kill him off for suspicion would just be silly on my part, because it would create this scenario.

Yes, they did kill off someone like shooter, and the point I was making is that the mafia are far more likely to go after GDN than Dawn. Fair point about the timing thing, and I really don't have a response to it. I can't back myself up, I don't know the mafia's motives behind the action.

Thanks Freeaim, I didn't realise it was a swear (because it isn't considered one where I live), but obviously, my county isn't the world, sorry about that guys :/

And yes, sorry if I come across as a bit aggressive, it isn't intentional if I do.
2013-08-31 22:47:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


No problem.

#Negative experience
2013-08-31 22:50:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


No pregnancies, no love interests, cmon guys. Where is the love ;-; Snipy killing, civvies dying, Craigmond hurt and you hear him crying...2013-08-31 22:53:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


No problem.

#Negative experience


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NuONuafxwk
2013-08-31 23:00:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Then you practice what Snipy says, AND THEN YOU KILL OF FLAMINGEMU (FOR NO REASON) (╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻2013-08-31 23:22:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Then you practice what Snipy says, AND THEN YOU KILL OF FLAMINGEMU (FOR NO REASON) (╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻

I didn't tell them to kill you. I didn't even vote for you, as I didn't believe you were a mafioso.

I'm not telling people to kill Craig either. I just explained my suspicions, and casted my vote. Wether they vote on Craig as well is up to them to decide.

If people do vote on Craig, I hope it is because they think he's suspicious as well, not because of mindless bandwagoning.

EDIT: And I don't know what you mean by "Snipy killing, civvies dying" but keep in mind that I haven't caused a single civilian death until now.
2013-08-31 23:29:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Satan tempts idk it's midnight and I've drunk 9 cans of red bull and every time I close my eyes it burns like fireWe've only got one love one love that's all we got one love one love2013-08-31 23:34:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Satan tempts idk it's midnight and I've drunk 9 cans of red bull and every time I close my eyes it burns like fireWe've only got one love one love that's all we got one love one love

I think I'll stick to the mortal version of Red Bull thank-you.
2013-09-01 01:11:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


2013-09-01 04:30:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221




haven't seen this in a while.
2013-09-01 10:28:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Wow.... I have a busy Saturday and all hell breaks loose! I have to say, craig, you're not defending yourself particularly well here. Can I ask, which "swear" was it that you used? Was it the one that begins with 'd' and rhymes with 'lamb'? Because I never understood why that is a swear, when it's an incredibly mild word, much milder than 'crap' which is allowed.2013-09-01 12:01:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Wow.... I have a busy Saturday and all hell breaks loose! I have to say, craig, you're not defending yourself particularly well here. Can I ask, which "swear" was it that you used? Was it the one that begins with 'd' and rhymes with 'lamb'? Because I never understood why that is a swear, when it's an incredibly mild word, much milder than 'crap' which is allowed.
I know. LBPC's swearing guidelines are a bit messy, to say the least.
2013-09-01 12:10:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Wow.... I have a busy Saturday and all hell breaks loose! I have to say, craig, you're not defending yourself particularly well here. Can I ask, which "swear" was it that you used? Was it the one that begins with 'd' and rhymes with 'lamb'? Because I never understood why that is a swear, when it's an incredibly mild word, much milder than 'crap' which is allowed.

I know, my defending skills aren't that great, you only need to look at my first game when I was put in the hot-seat to know that I end up in a frantic and dis-organised mess, but hopefully people will understand what I'm saying and make sense of it all.

Yeah, the word rhymed with lamb. I never noticed that is was censored until Butter picked up on it and to be fair, it did look really bad.

But now the power lies with the undecided voters, do you follow Snipy or do you hear me out? It's your choice. I know who I'm voting for (not Snipy) but I'm not going to say it here as a footnote, I'll give them a full post.

Other words my word rhymed with: jam, scam, pram and even ham
2013-09-01 12:18:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Bam Sam Ma'am Ram Pam2013-09-01 13:50:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Other words my word rhymed with: jam, scam, pram and even ham

I thought It was only considered a swear word or offensive when you used it to say "the lords name in vain". Are there any other swears that I think are normal words? Is that why people look at me funny? Am I only doing this to make short sentances?

Anyways I'm still unsure about Butter but my vote will stand for now. I think we should also give Craig the benefit of a doubt since he has said he ends up in an organised mess when he is put in the limelight. Then again I'm only thinking people are going with Snipy there is a 0.000008% chance he is mafia. In short kindly give Craig a chance at least he is responding to the accusations against him even if it does make him look more and more like a mafiosoi.

I also think we should forgive and forget the fact he killed JFK and keeps Sloths imprisoned in a "ZOO".
2013-09-01 13:52:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Yeah, the word rhymed with lamb. I never noticed that is was censored until Butter picked up on it and to be fair, it did look really bad.


I once tried to say "Damb you" to someone in a light hearted fist shaking way, but instead it came out as "**** you"..... which looks a LOT harsher than it was originally intended.

I'm assuming the censorship is American though. Coming from the same country where Kinder Surprise is illegal and guns are legal, we can't be too surprised.
2013-09-01 14:31:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Jesus Christ Ali, you shouldn't say such ******** things.2013-09-01 15:21:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I'm assuming the censorship is American though. Coming from the same country where Kinder Surprise is illegal and guns are legal, we can't be too surprised.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7GQSe3WBVyo/UX-Gk3HFFZI/AAAAAAAALgA/IsX2Q7gZiu8/s1600/abandon-thread.gif
2013-09-01 15:43:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Hahah, that "**** you" thing was hilarious . As for my opinion on Craig..eh, I think the evidence against him is flimsy. Granted, he has said some suspicious things, but a few shady statements simply isn't enough to convict a man. Craig said some flimsy things in Burn's TCW, as did mega in this one, and they turned out to be civilians.2013-09-01 15:46:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Okay now. I was going to sit back and enjoy some drama by myself, but my megapost about Butter is long overdue and I want to post it before I could be taken out by mafia. Just to clarify, I am not trying to take anyone's focus off Craig. Though I myself think he's innocent (though I may be wrong), placing attention on someone else in someone's defense is not exactly fair. I find this absolutely necessary to post for reasons, which you will soon find out. Now, once again, this is just me theorizing. Nothing I am going to write is written in stone. However, this is enough to convince me.



If I didn't abstain then I'd say that sounds mighty suspicious in its own right. Because it almost seems as if you're trying to familiarize yourself with the civilians by using terms such as 'we', also you say civvies in the third person.

Just trying to get something not boring to start.

So you're just trying to provoke actions out of others? You want to start something, yet you do nothing to start it except tell us you want that something to start? I find this to be a mighty suspicious post, considering this was written during the first day.



If you were really serious about you not wanting to be lynched I would think that you would use a less joking manner, would you not? The You will regret it card has been played a million times before and has often been associated with Mafioso's in previous games.

Also the 'I am not as smart as such as such' card is similar to the Sorry I am noob tactic. both associated with the mafia. I should know, I used it last game and got away scot free when I was mafia. Also GDN is right. Your ' Make it fair for burn' Made it look like you were trying to stall people and encourage them to change their opinion's. This was a last ditch effort indeed.

You may just have fallen over your own feet and made some mistakes but to me you're the most suspicious as of now.

I vote for Mega.

While I can't argue with Mega having played flimsily here, what is odd to me is how certain you appear about him being a mafioso, though you still mention the possibility that he is not. Considering how early it is in the game and also considering that you didn't dare vote for anyone the previous day, this looks like a mafioso jumping on a bandwagon to ensure a civilian's fate.



So.....mega was an innocent then?

http://i.imgur.com/tZOS8.gif

As much as I enjoy that gif, you're doing exactly what the gif expressed here. Sure, you still participate in the conversations just enough to appear sort of active, but everything you say is pointless and doesn't benefit anyone. It's one thing to apologize for doing the wrong thing. It's another to try to ignore the fact that you did so. As Snipy said, doing that is more suspicious than simply apologizing.



But....he....k-killed a mafia....

You know what:

(Insert funny gif.)

What exactly goes on in your brain? When someone does such an obvious move, you only point that out. You are afraid of taking responsibility by voting him. Sure, in the end it was the right thing to do, but you knew! You knew he was suspicious as heck and yet you did nothing about it. To me, this is you just going: "Look, there's a mafia! Go get mafia!" Yet you don't lift a finger to do so. How do you follow this? By posting a couple of irrelevant posts, as if you're trying to ignore there's drama happening, so you don't appear more suspicious.



If I was mafia, I would've persuaded the other Mafioso's to vote for Craig. As I believed he was the doctor at some point. Also you'd be dead. I am a civilian with no accusations to make. Simple as that.

You are a civilian with no accusations to make? You did acknowledge Mega and Emu as suspicious. You are not a civilian with no accusations to make. You just wait until you can vote for someone with someone people trust just to share in that trust. You talk a lot. You accuse a lot. Yet you don't dare to take the spotlight, but you prefer to work in the shadow. To me, this is awfully familiar, as it was the mafia's strategy in the last game and it did work quite well back then.





I vote Craigmond after reading this.

Now you vote for Craigmond, based on him stating a few arguments I for one deem rather believable. Now, I am not a very naive person, let me tell you that.



Pfft. No one suspects me.

Well, it's a good think I'm here, then. To me, you're looking like you try to start fights between civilians, only to vote on people who trusted people vote, just in case that you don't come off suspicious from this yourself. In this game, you've been about as useful as Anne Frank's drum kit. You're playing this game like a sleazy coward. I think it's time for you to participate in this game like a man.

You want excitement with someone suspecting you? Here's some excitement for you.

I vote for Butter-Kicker.
2013-09-01 15:54:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I love you too Freeaim 2013-09-01 16:00:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I love you too Freeaim

Are you going to respond to Free Aim's megapost or not? Right now this is only confirming my suspicions about you.
2013-09-01 16:03:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Are you going to respond to Free Aim's megapost or not? Right now this is only confirming my suspicions about you.

Not right now. I just came back from work and I am tired. Might respond later. Might just let you kill me then laugh when you find out I am a civilian. Its what you essentially did last game. Right Shooter?

2013-09-01 16:05:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Not right now. I just came back from work and I am tired. Might respond later. Might just let you kill me then laugh when you find out I am a civilian. Its what you essentially did last game. Right Shooter?



You know if you are going to take shots at me for being a tad bitter you're being mighty hypocritical now.
2013-09-01 16:06:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


You know if you are going to take shots at me for being a tad bitter you're being mighty hypocritical now.

But, it is what he did last game. He voted for himself.

2013-09-01 16:08:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


If you were really serious about you not wanting to be lynched I would think that you would use a less joking manner, would you not?


I love you too Freeaim
The hypocrisy is strong in this one.

I vote for butter-kicker.
2013-09-01 16:09:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


The hypocrisy is strong in this one.

I vote for butter-kicker.

But I am not serious about me being lynched. In fact I was a lot more serious for the majority of the last game. When I was mafia. This game I am just bored and everyone I suspect is either dead or working together to lynch me. So I thought I should just contribute by doing nothing much except for that one post about Craig. Go ahead vote for me. But the overall fact is that I am a civilian and that one of the three voting for me is most likely a mafia and I doubt it is you or Freeaim. Just saying.
2013-09-01 16:13:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


But I am not serious about me being lynched. In fact I was a lot more serious for the majority of the last game. When I was mafia. This game I am just bored and everyone I suspect is either dead or working together to lynch me. So I thought I should just contribute by doing nothing much except for that one post about Craig. Go ahead vote for me. But the overall fact is that I am a civilian and that one of the three voting for me is most likely a mafia and I doubt it is you or Freeaim. Just saying.
Are you trying to get me concerned? I have no personal issue with you, Butter. I think you're great and you've managed to make me laugh hard a couple of times with all your funny gifs and so on. However, I have to do what I find my duty as a civilian to be, which is to vote for you, as you are the most suspicious person out there at the moment. If you can not take me seriously, then let me pinch you into reality and tell you that this is happening, for real. I have stated earlier that you are cowardly when it comes to playing this game. Therefore, to be brutally honest, if you are a civilian and my suspicions about you are wrong, I am glad you died before someone else who might be a civilian, because the amount you've actually contributed into this game for any good, civilian cause is zero.


Not right now. I just came back from work and I am tired. Might respond later. Might just let you kill me then laugh when you find out I am a civilian. Its what you essentially did last game. Right Shooter?


Now that's just trying to touch on a sore subject. This is exactly the kind of action that has made me suspect you in the first place. Unlike Shooter last game, you're not struggling back. Let me tell you this, though. As far as I myself am concerned, staying still is not going to loosen my grip on you.
2013-09-01 16:23:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Jesus Christ Ali, you shouldn't say such ******** things.

See, now I'm not sure if you're being aggressive towards me or not.


Not right now. I just came back from work and I am tired. Might respond later. Might just let you kill me then laugh when you find out I am a civilian. Its what you essentially did last game. Right Shooter?



FreeAim's mega post does make some sense to me. I have noticed that he has been acting very similar to how he did in the last game. I'm not buying into you "boredom". In the post I've quoted above you've referenced the fact that Shooter turned out to be innocent in the last game, after he effectively said "sod it, vote for me, you'll be sorry, I'll even vote for myself" etc etc. And now you're trying to use that fact to make YOURSELF appear to be innocent. Hmmmm..... not sure about others, but that isn't sitting well with me.
2013-09-01 16:24:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Are you trying to get me concerned? I have no personal issue with you, Butter. I think you're great and you've managed to make me laugh hard a couple of times with all your funny gifs and so on. However, I have to do what I find my duty as a civilian to be, which is to vote for you, as you are the most suspicious person out there at the moment. If you can not take me seriously, then let me pinch you into reality and tell you that this is happening, for real. I have stated earlier that you are cowardly when it comes to playing this game. Therefore, to be brutally honest, if you are a civilian and my suspicions about you are wrong, I am glad you died before someone else who might be a civilian, because the amount you've actually contributed into this game for any good, civilian cause is zero.

Neither Have you really. Neither has most of us. You've made some mega posts but they've all been wrong (Although in good faith). I have also made some mild accusations whilst letting people know of what I am thinking at times. To be honest, as soon as I read your mega post I knew it was over. People are going to gobble that stuff up. I would've if It wasn't about me. Burn did it last game and until the last day he was wrong every time. You're contributing fairly and it is a shame to see that you're wrong again. It's hard to point fingers and I guess you took lead on this one just as Burn did last round.



FreeAim's mega post does make some sense to me. I have noticed that he has been acting very similar to how he did in the last game. I'm not buying into you "boredom". In the post I've quoted above you've referenced the fact that Shooter turned out to be innocent in the last game, after he effectively said "sod it, vote for me, you'll be sorry, I'll even vote for myself" etc etc. And now you're trying to use that fact to make YOURSELF appear to be innocent. Hmmmm..... not sure about others, but that isn't sitting well with me.

But the fact is I am Innocent. Heads might begin rolling for the rest you because I am dead so I'll try to prevent that right now. Guys if you're ever going to take in anything I say take in this.

I believe my fellow civilians are:

Freeaim: A mafia member would never go out on a limb and start making accusations like he is. Especially not after Burn was lynched for the exact same thing last game.

SnipySev: For obvious reasons.

Everyone else I am uncertain about and it is quite likely that people who only pop into say hello every few pages are mafia. Example: Nys.

Good luck guys.
2013-09-01 16:35:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Geez, now I can see why the Mafia wanted me dead. <_<2013-09-01 16:42:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Here's my theory.

As you can all see, Butter is trying to get us aggravated. He's acting bored with the game, and acting as if he doesn't care at all about the civilian cause. It's too blatant for a standard mafia member to do, and the rest of the mafia would probably hate him right now if he was a standard mafioso. So what do I think?

I think Butter's the trader.

Think about how much sense it makes. If he really is the trader, he will be revealed as a civilian in the morning. It will tear us all apart, make us question what cards exactly these mafia members are playing. We'll start voting on each other due to stupid reasons. Doesn't it all make sense?

Anyway, that's my two cents. Any thoughts?
2013-09-01 16:47:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Think about how much sense it makes. If he really is the trader, he will be revealed as a civilian in the morning. It will tear us all apart, make us question what cards exactly these mafia members are playing. We'll start voting on each other due to stupid reasons. Doesn't it all make sense?

Anyway, that's my two cents. Any thoughts?
I see certain amount of sense in this claim. The Trader hasn't been very involved in the game so far, to be honest. Sure, he has caused a fair share of paranoia in all of us, but that's it. Then again, I don't agree with the fact that standard mafiosi haven't got mad at him dying. If he is a standard mafioso, see, nobody would like to take the risk to actually defend him.

That's my point of view.
2013-09-01 16:51:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Here's my theory.

As you can all see, Butter is trying to get us aggravated. He's acting bored with the game, and acting as if he doesn't care at all about the civilian cause. It's too blatant for a standard mafia member to do, and the rest of the mafia would probably hate him right now if he was a standard mafioso. So what do I think?

I think Butter's the trader.

Think about how much sense it makes. If he really is the trader, he will be revealed as a civilian in the morning. It will tear us all apart, make us question what cards exactly these mafia members are playing. We'll start voting on each other due to stupid reasons. Doesn't it all make sense?

Anyway, that's my two cents. Any thoughts?

Great theory. However I am sadly not the trader. Although if I was this is most certainly what I would do.
2013-09-01 16:52:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab10/SpazzySpizzy/Gifs/BarneyStinsonMindExplosionGif.gif

Since we're running a bit low on time I'm gonna Vote Butter-Kicker while I can. He's not convinced me enough that he isn't mafia. It's not set in stone, but I'm getting my vote in now in case I can't get online later.
2013-09-01 17:04:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Wait, if Butter is the trader, and we vote on him...

doesn't that mean we essentially voted out a civilian?
2013-09-01 17:13:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Sorry. Now I sadly don't have the time to do those fancy reports now. But I promise I will in the next days.

Summary: Voting ends in 6 hours. If no one else votes for someone else or changes votes, butter will die.
2013-09-01 17:23:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Sorry. Now I sadly don't have the time to do those fancy reports now. But I promise I will in the next days.

Summary: Voting ends in 6 hours. If no one else votes for someone else or changes votes, butter will die.


http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4564718172636237&pid=1.7

Well that's just great.
2013-09-01 17:29:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Wait, if Butter is the trader, and we vote on him...

doesn't that mean we essentially voted out a civilian?

No... if he's mafia, and is the trader, and subsequently is revealed to be a civvy when he dies, then we will believe we've lynched a civvy, when in actual fact we have lynched a mafia. The person he switched with will be revealed to be mafia when he/she dies, when in actual fact he/she is innocent.
2013-09-01 17:34:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


No... if he's mafia, and is the trader, and subsequently is revealed to be a civvy when he dies, then we will believe we've lynched a civvy, when in actual fact we have lynched a mafia. The person he switched with will be revealed to be mafia when he/she dies, when in actual fact he/she is innocent.

Well that's confusing.
2013-09-01 17:37:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


In short, the trader doesn't have a real impact on the game, just our minds.2013-09-01 17:42:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


No... if he's mafia, and is the trader, and subsequently is revealed to be a civvy when he dies, then we will believe we've lynched a civvy, when in actual fact we have lynched a mafia. The person he switched with will be revealed to be mafia when he/she dies, when in actual fact he/she is innocent.

That is perfectly correct.
2013-09-01 17:49:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


In short, the trader doesn't have a real impact on the game, just our minds.

And your minds are what leads you to make mega-posts. So essentially, the trader role hurts your fingers.
2013-09-01 17:50:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


That makes sense. Prepare for mind hurt in the morning, then.2013-09-01 18:17:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


And your minds are what leads you to make mega-posts. So essentially, the trader role hurts your fingers.

Are you sure? I have a really comfortable keyboard.
2013-09-01 18:20:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


*Mega Post*

*Mega Post*

*Moar Mega Post*
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/adNqwrB_460sa.gif
2013-09-01 19:15:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Night begins.2013-09-01 22:16:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Can the trader switch roles with the one being lynched?
e.g. Butter gets lynched, trader swaps with Butter. Butter revealed as mafia, mafioso is now innocent.
Also makes anyone voting for butter seem innocent.
That's only if the trader can do that.

Either way, I think Spazz is going to die due to inactivity (sadly, where were you?) so I abstain my vote. If he doesn't die then he has more time to get posting.

As for butter? I'm not sure what to make of his posts. But if he is innocent then fingers will be pointed. I can assure you of that.

Edit: oh, night. Well, butter is dead. Lets see what morning brings
2013-09-01 22:17:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


It not a night in this game without.....

Is it day yet?
2013-09-01 22:21:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Is it day yet?

I don't know, what do you think?
2013-09-01 22:24:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


I don't know, what do you think?



Everyone I have something to say. I'm actually a Hamster. The night-time is my day-time. I know what you must be asking yourselves: "how can you wright coherent sentences and be able to make decisions?" That is nothing short of a miracle.
2013-09-01 22:27:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I could get used to this.2013-09-01 22:56:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


It loses its appeal really quick2013-09-02 00:08:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


It loses its appeal really quick

What? Being dead?
2013-09-02 00:22:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


What? Being dead?

Probably. Being dead is so boring, especially when you're first blood.
2013-09-02 00:36:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/adNqwrB_460sa.gif

Are we going to ignore how hilarious that was
2013-09-02 01:19:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Now that it's night and the thread becomes a spam can:

Are Kinder Surprise eggs really illegal in the US? Why? What kind of evil overlord would outlaw the chocolatey icon of childhood innocence? WHY?
2013-09-02 03:43:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


The evil overlord. If my hunch is correct...

RAWK IS OBAMA

EDIT: Enjoy this completely unrelated GIF.
http://theartofwor.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/nathaniel.gif
2013-09-02 04:39:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


http://31.media.tumblr.com/5954007035c15f66c6b23f8700357436/tumblr_ms22r6q10s1sg9s0qo1_400.gif2013-09-02 07:58:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea71f1caf1af454c76c4b7620291cab4/tumblr_msbqji6wSs1qcj3cno7_250.gif2013-09-02 09:15:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Now that it's night and the thread becomes a spam can:

Are Kinder Surprise eggs really illegal in the US? Why? What kind of evil overlord would outlaw the chocolatey icon of childhood innocence? WHY?

Something to do with the concealed toys/small parts I think. Kids were probably trying to swallow the thing whole and choking on the toys.
2013-09-02 10:28:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/2/28/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-29587-1362074123-7.gif

ooooo, spooky ghost...
2013-09-02 10:58:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Is it day yet?















lol jk
2013-09-02 12:39:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Now that it's night and the thread becomes a spam can:

Are Kinder Surprise eggs really illegal in the US? Why? What kind of evil overlord would outlaw the chocolatey icon of childhood innocence? WHY?

I wouldn't say they're illegal, just they don't ship to US anymore.
2013-09-02 15:55:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Welcome to the spam can... With real bacon.2013-09-02 16:07:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


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Until morning when we have to get super srs again
2013-09-02 16:15:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


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Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


2013-09-02 16:28:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Party ends in 3 and a half hours.2013-09-02 18:31:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Party ends in 3 and a half hours.

I wasn't originally planning to, but now I just have to stay up past 11 o'clock. Just stick with this and actually post it in three hours, okay?
2013-09-02 18:56:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Join the party
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2013-09-02 19:10:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I wasn't originally planning to, but now I just have to stay up past 11 o'clock. Just stick with this and actually post it in three hours, okay?

I will.
2013-09-02 20:05:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


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-butter-kicker: Mafioso

-SnipySev: Civillian


Day 5 begins..

..oh god oh man.
2013-09-02 20:57:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


aHA GOATS I KNEW IT2013-09-02 21:02:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Wait wait wait, what's up with goats?

Butter was mafia. Good call guys.
Snipy is gone though.

2 down, some more to go.
2013-09-02 21:06:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


It's sad that Snipy got killed. He was not only active, but also intelligent, experienced and actually seemed as if he knew what he was doing.

In other news, we got another mafioso!
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2013-09-02 21:09:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Goats.

Could it be a secret role?

Could it be a game changer?

It is one of those 2.
2013-09-02 21:12:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Goats.

Could it be a secret role?

Could it be a game changer?

It is one of those 2.

'Goats' rhymes with 'boats'..... 'boats' are like 'ships', the Millennium Falcon is a space'ship'..... JEDI IS THE KEY TO THE WHOLE GAME! ZOMMMMGGGGZZZZ!!!!
2013-09-02 21:16:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


'Goats' rhymes with 'boats'..... 'boats' are like 'ships', the Millennium Falcon is a space'ship'..... JEDI IS THE KEY TO THE WHOLE GAME! ZOMMMMGGGGZZZZ!!!!

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2013-09-02 21:18:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I apologize if my goats comment appeared tatical2013-09-02 21:21:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Goats.

Could it be a secret role?

Could it be a game changer?

It is one of those 2.

hahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHA!

Just kidding it has nothing to do with me....I think.
2013-09-02 21:22:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


"Goats" is real.2013-09-02 21:22:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


wwhoa2013-09-02 21:24:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Now, I don't personally think "goats" is a new, secret role. The reason for this is, that there is also an incredibly complex role here, which is the trader.2013-09-02 21:32:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Alright guys, me and Snipy managed to sort out two mafiosos, now let's see if you guys can figure out the rest!2013-09-02 21:49:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Butter was mafia?

OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
2013-09-02 21:55:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


'Goats' rhymes with 'boats'..... 'boats' are like 'ships', the Millennium Falcon is a space'ship'..... JEDI IS THE KEY TO THE WHOLE GAME! ZOMMMMGGGGZZZZ!!!!

No, clearly it is referring to "The men who stare at goats" a film about supposedly psychic soldiers with Ewan McGregor, who played Obi-wan, who's a jedi, Jedi is the key!
Wait...
2013-09-02 22:05:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


No, clearly it is referring to "The men who stare at goats" a film about supposedly psychic soldiers with Ewan McGregor, who played Obi-wan, who's a jedi, Jedi is the key!
Wait...

That's it I have it now. You are the cliche chosen one who will save us from the mafiosoi.
2013-09-02 22:23:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I knew Snipy was a civilian2013-09-02 22:25:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I knew Snipy was a civilian

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2013-09-02 22:29:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


That's it I have it now. You are the cliche chosen one who will save us from the mafiosoi.

I'm doing my best! Though I really didn't think butter was mafia, seems the force may have chosen poorly
2013-09-02 22:43:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I'm doing my best! Though I really didn't think butter was mafia, seems the force may have chosen poorly

*insert you must have faith in the force GIF here*
2013-09-02 22:45:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So our suspicions on Butter were right. If Burn's post earlier was correct, that means we have 3 mafiosos to go.

As for Snipy, it sucks that we've lost him. He was a valuable asset, to say the least.
2013-09-02 23:45:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


I think you misread my previous post ryan.
In other news: goats.
2013-09-02 23:58:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Great! Another mafioso down!2013-09-03 00:23:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I think you misread my previous post ryan.
In other news: goats.
You said you had 4 fellow mafiosos, which you listed each as REDACTED. We've killed you and one other mafia member, meaning we killed one of your apparent mafia buddies. 4-1=3.
2013-09-03 00:43:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


So, I was inactive on the previous one and I didn't be back for this one.
I feel like crap right now for being inactive when the mafia needed me, plus it looked fun :c, I'll be at somewhere else if anyone needs me
2013-09-03 04:21:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Oh well, I knew I had it coming.

Good luck to you guys, I'm off to do some ghost shenanigans with gdn. Take care of my teddy bear.
2013-09-03 09:09:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


No, clearly it is referring to "The men who stare at goats" a film about supposedly psychic soldiers with Ewan McGregor, who played Obi-wan, who's a jedi, Jedi is the key!
Wait...

GOAT is an acronym for "Greatest of all Time". The original Star Wars trilogy is the greatest sci fi series of all time. The final film of which is Return of the Jedi. Wow...... all roads lead to you, don't they! You're like the Kevin Bacon of the mafia wars/goat world.

Back to the game.... what are everyone's thought's for this round?
2013-09-03 09:13:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Oh well, I knew I had it coming.

Good luck to you guys, I'm off to do some ghost shenanigans with gdn. Take care of my teddy bear.
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2013-09-03 11:16:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Back to the game.... what are everyone's thought's for this round?

I have some thoughts but since I'm an immaterial, invisible, inaudible ghost you guys won't hear them.


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2013-09-03 11:19:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


@SnipySev and gdn

Rock the hell, dudes!

@People who are alive

If there are as many mafiosi as there were in the last game, there should only be two left. However, if there were as many as Burn accidentally leaked earlier, we might still be dealing with three. While my main suspicion at the moment is Shooter, his actions last evening against Butter (getting him cornered) have made me doubt myself on my suspicions. As far as today is concerned, it's still rather early and if I am going to mega-post about anyone, I want to make it when people are here to read it.
2013-09-03 14:46:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


@snipysev and gdn

rock the hell, dudes!

rawk!
2013-09-03 14:57:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


@SnipySev and gdn

Rock the hell, dudes!

@People who are alive

If there are as many mafiosi as there were in the last game, there should only be two left. However, if there were as many as Burn accidentally leaked earlier, we might still be dealing with three. While my main suspicion at the moment is Shooter, his actions last evening against Butter (getting him cornered) have made me doubt myself on my suspicions. As far as today is concerned, it's still rather early and if I am going to mega-post about anyone, I want to make it when people are here to read it.

I had stated that I had already suspected Butter and yesterday he just struck me as being more suspicious. So far out of all my suspects 2/4 are dead. Unfortunately only one was mafia the other Flem however at that time I had stuck to voting for Ryan. However I will do a bit of investigating and by tonight expect my preliminary vote.
2013-09-03 16:10:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


We killed another mafia! Good going so far.

Only two or three to go
2013-09-03 16:16:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Okay, with all this GOAT talk about and Jedi getting the spotlight, I wonder who I might just mega-post about. Oh, I have an idea! What about Jedi? He has been rather passive but he too has dropped some decent material-bombs to this thread for me to judge. As I see it as my duty to do this, I shall do this.




Ooh, good call on Burn, even if it was just revenge.
I feel bad for dawn though. But I guess the mafia were going to get rid of someone.

So... Who'd want dawn out of the way? Well possibly burn but he's out now. I'll look through all the posts another time.

Overall though, great start!
While I personally find nothing practically suspicious here, he did say: “I guess mafia were going to get rid of someone” as if he felt sorry for Dawn. While it might have been just a general statement, could it have been Mafioso regret? I don’t think so, but it’s a theory.




*Cough* *cough*

Good Book
- GDN
- Sev
- Freeaim

Kind of good book

- Craigmond.

I think Craig might be the doctor. Also I am going to check over those who haven't posted very often and when they do, it is of irrelevance/Voting.

I believe those people are mafia as it is what the mafia did last game.
I agree with your good list. As well as your theories on the mafia though I realise I haven't posted much :/
It seems like that may be their plan, I was a little surprised by how quiet Burn was. Whereas Mega had posted a bit and was innocent.
So looking at the quiet ones I'm gonna throw in a vote for Spazz.
Just for being quiet.
Spazz, if you stay quiet, my vote stays. Then again if you post something suspicious it will stay too. No point in withdrawing my vote in that case!

But really people, lets get talking?

GDN was probably targeted for ridding us of burn. Snipy may need the doctor tonight. Or GDN again. Then again, it could be neither, knowing that one may be saved the mafia may go for someone at random to get a kill.
This is what the mafia did last game when Rock was saved.

Aaaaand that's my first proper post of this game. Lets see some more?
Okay, this is his first actually proper post in the game and already there’s something I can find suspicious in one way, sense or form. He agrees that the mafia may be planning to use the inactivity tactic, though he has been inactive himself. That’s rather risky in every way, whether he was a Mafioso or a civilian. Then he goes ahead and votes for Spazz for purely being inactive. I don’t think I have seen him post anything to this thread so far, which I find funny.

It’s an easy choice to vote out the inactive people because they won’t be here to defend themselves. However, there’s something that caught my eye even more: “Snipy may need the doctor tonight.” Granted, he didn’t need the doctor and the mafia killed gdn because he decided to save someone else. I believe this someone was Snipy. While you do back it up with your reasoning, I still find this very curious. Still, I wouldn’t vote anyone over this just yet, not at this point of game anyway.



Gah, I thought gdn was the doctor after he was saved. Rock did the same last game.
Shame we got rid of a civilian, but you did try and vote for someone who is highly likely to be innocent.
As for shooter, the bartender appears to have thought you were in need of a drink. Any thoughts as to why?

I'm going to vote for Spazz for now. Mainly because he isn't here, though if he doesn't post he dies anyway after a certain time right?

Captain Hindsight strikes again! While it is true that someone like Mega was going to turn out innocent, bragging about knowing about it after the death has occurred doesn’t exactly help anyone. However, it can be helped to further prove your “innocence” as you didn’t vote for someone who was going to get lynched anyway. Suspicious.

Later, when the day was at its high-point, you remained absolutely silent. As it was near the end of night, everyone was certainly trigger-sensitive. It’s a smart defense-plan, but if you’re innocent, you don’t exactly need one. I don’t think this is the case though.





Either way, I think Spazz is going to die due to inactivity (sadly, where were you?) so I abstain my vote. If he doesn't die then he has more time to get posting.

As for butter? I'm not sure what to make of his posts. But if he is innocent then fingers will be pointed. I can assure you of that.

Edit: oh, night. Well, butter is dead. Lets see what morning brings

There are a lot of ifs here, but what really raises my eyebrow is the growing obsession on Spazz, especially since he hasn’t posted even once. I am not sure whether you try to get rid of him or trying to save him. However, I feel like you’re trying to get him killed. The thing is, however, that he hasn’t posted even once. Therefore, if he was a Mafioso, there’s no use in getting rid of him, apart from us being one step closer to victory. Still, I believe the next Mafiosi are not going to be so easy to bust.



Wait wait wait, what's up with goats?

Butter was mafia. Good call guys.
Snipy is gone though.

2 down, some more to go.

“Butter was mafia. Good call guys.” This is something I would expect from someone who defended or tried to defend Butter. Okay, it’s pretty light “evidence” but I think even the small things matter, if there are enough of them.

HOWEVER there aren’t enough “small things” to make me doubt Jedi, so in my books, Jedi is off the hook, even though he suggested gdn to try to save someone else than himself, which eventually happened and caused we to lose our doctor. Anyway, I will be doing a couple more before the day ends. Don’t worry, I’ve got you guys covered.
2013-09-03 19:05:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Wow people suspect the people I suspect (if that of course does make sense) I was reviewing Ryan but now FreeAim has managed to do a megapost (I could not find much on Jedi) this may have changed my theories a bit. Expect my temporary vote in around 3 hours time.

EDIT: With some thought I vote Jedi. However as always this is the temporary vote and not the final one. FreeAim listed good reasons and Jedi hasn't acctually refuted these points. Even if these reasons are vague Jedi has been inactive but posting every so often as to not avoid suspicion. Maybe these small things could be a ploy to throw us of track?
2013-09-03 19:27:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Mega Post

Woohoo, a mega post all about me!

Well. I agree with practically all of this.

First off is Spazz. I voted for him when someone else was clearly getting lynched and the second time I changed my vote (granted not the best person to vote for that time). Why did I vote for Spazz? To try and get him involved in the game. Simple as. He hasn't posted yet and I thought that by voting for him he may jump in and try to defend himself.

The comment with the Doc and Snipy is simple. Last game, when I was a mafioso, Rock survived the night. We never went for him again because people knew he was innocent and it was more interesting to get rid of a role unknown to the civilians.
This appears to have backfired on me as GDN may have saved himself again and we'd have one more civilian with us. Sorry.

And my relative inactivity? Well, I only really post if I can contribute something of worth which isn't a lot. Though is thing with the goats was too fun to pass up.

Oh and the pathetic quote? I'm on my iPad and editing quotes is a bit of a chore on this.


Shooter (or anyone else), if I have missed something you want me to address, let me know. I'll get back to you once my hyperdrive is running again
2013-09-03 23:27:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Hmm... doing a search in this thread of Ali_Star's post (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1025482) reveals something interesting...

He hasn't done anything. At all. He's done 2 things, really:

-Agree with other people
-Make jokes

He really hasn't contributed, in any way, to taking down mafia members. There is one thing he did against a mafia member, though - contributing a vote to butter, "before it was too late", aka when he was about to die anyways. I found this suspicious, as this was his only vote and didn't really, in any way, have any effect, what with Butter already being practically dead.

Anyways, that's my current train of thought. I'm heading to bed, so I'll set aside mega-posting and my final opinion for tomorrow.
2013-09-04 03:38:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


My, my... Here come the fuzz!

I'm sorry, I won't post anything for a short while. I have a long day ahead. Don't go and kill each others, while I'm gone, okay?
2013-09-04 05:36:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Hmm... doing a search in this thread of Ali_Star's post (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1025482) reveals something interesting...

He hasn't done anything. At all. He's done 2 things, really:

-Agree with other people
-Make jokes

He really hasn't contributed, in any way, to taking down mafia members. There is one thing he did against a mafia member, though - contributing a vote to butter, "before it was too late", aka when he was about to die anyways. I found this suspicious, as this was his only vote and didn't really, in any way, have any effect, what with Butter already being practically dead.

Anyways, that's my current train of thought. I'm heading to bed, so I'll set aside mega-posting and my final opinion for tomorrow.

I agree with this post.

Q) What do you call a man with a spade on his head?






A) Doug :hero:


Ok.... now to actually respond to your post. I have been somewhat of a passive player so far in this game, yes. This is partly intentional. In the first game I was given a fantastic role (ie the sheriff), and I was rather vocal in the first day, which of course got me lynched in the first night. So I'm trying to play it a lot cooler this time.

Secondly, you mention that I voted for butters "before it was too late".... you're putting words in my mouth there, I didn't actually say that now, did I? I said "while I can" and implied that I was pencilling in my vote in case I couldn't get online later. Nothing wrong with that is there?

I don't know what else to say really. Nobody is standing out to me, really. The experienced ones are coming across well, particularly yourself and FreeAim, IMO. The noobs (nys and Spazz) are rarely posting at all.
2013-09-04 09:41:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Q) What do you call a man who's taken a spade off of his head?




A) Douglas

As for Ali, the only evidence pointing to him is that he was the last to vote for butter. But I wouldn't really say it was last minute. I'd just say that it was unnecessary at that point.
But since that's all there really is, Ali is clear with me. For now.
2013-09-04 09:56:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


nnnnnggggghhh

Not being able to say anything meaningful sucks.
2013-09-04 12:12:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


As for Ali, the only evidence pointing to him is that he was the last to vote for butter. But I wouldn't really say it was last minute. I'd just say that it was unnecessary at that point.

I would not really call that "evidence," since if he could have also voted for Craig which would've made the situation a tie, which could've saved Butter. Even though, he hasn't been very active...
2013-09-04 13:06:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I would not really call that "evidence," since if he could have also voted for Craig which would've made the situation a tie, which could've saved Butter. Even though, he hasn't been very active...

Yeah, I should have used " for evidence.
I hadn't realised about Craig in that vote though. Lets see if he has anything to say about that.
2013-09-04 13:15:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I agree with this post.

Q) What do you call a man with a spade on his head?






A) Doug :hero:


Ok.... now to actually respond to your post. I have been somewhat of a passive player so far in this game, yes. This is partly intentional. In the first game I was given a fantastic role (ie the sheriff), and I was rather vocal in the first day, which of course got me lynched in the first night. So I'm trying to play it a lot cooler this time.

Secondly, you mention that I voted for butters "before it was too late".... you're putting words in my mouth there, I didn't actually say that now, did I? I said "while I can" and implied that I was pencilling in my vote in case I couldn't get online later. Nothing wrong with that is there?

I don't know what else to say really. Nobody is standing out to me, really. The experienced ones are coming across well, particularly yourself and FreeAim, IMO. The noobs (nys and Spazz) are rarely posting at all.
Fair enough, that was just a quick train of thought on my part.
2013-09-04 14:42:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Yeah, I should have used " for evidence.
I hadn't realised about Craig in that vote though. Lets see if he has anything to say about that.

I do have something to say about that. I suspected Butter and was going to vote on him after seeing Freeaims post but seeing that I was in pretty bad shape at that moment and was being accused of band-wagoning already, I thought there was no use on jumping in to vote on someone who was already gone when I would get pulled up for just following the crowd even although he was suspicious in my eyes.
2013-09-04 15:43:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


I do have something to say about that. I suspected Butter and was going to vote on him after seeing Freeaims post but seeing that I was in pretty bad shape at that moment and was being accused of band-wagoning already, I thought there was no use on jumping in to vote on someone who was already gone when I would get pulled up for just following the crowd even although he was suspicious in my eyes.

Oh, no! I didn't mean you. I guess it was poorly worded. No, I meant:
I wonder if Ali has a reason for voting Butter and not Craig in that vote.
2013-09-04 16:06:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I assume that. We now have 36 hours left in this day so I'll see how it progresses and make my final vote this time tomorrow.2013-09-04 16:16:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Oh, no! I didn't mean you. I guess it was poorly worded. No, I meant:
I wonder if Ali has a reason for voting Butter and not Craig in that vote.

That's kind of self explanatory isn't it? I found Butters to be more suspicious than craig, in fact I found Butters behaviour to be very suspicious... and I was right wasn't I?

You didn't vote for Butters did you? In fact you abstained. I find that a little odd. And you tried to deflect attention towards Spazz, a (probably) innocent non-poster.
2013-09-04 18:30:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


When was Spazz last on?2013-09-04 18:34:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


When was Spazz last on?

He wasn't.
2013-09-04 19:22:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Then why did Jedi vote him. He clearly couldn't have had a role. Unless of course he is throwing him under a bus.2013-09-04 19:41:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Then why did Jedi vote him. He clearly couldn't have had a role. Unless of course he is throwing him under a bus.

As I said earlier, I was trying to get Spazz involved in the game.

As for abstaining in the vote on Butter, I wasn't sure enough. That's it.

Ali, that's what I thought. But I just wanted to check.
2013-09-04 19:51:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


nnnnnggggghhh

Not being able to say anything meaningful sucks.

^^^^^^
2013-09-04 21:04:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^
2013-09-04 21:12:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Anybody find anyone else suspicious for a valid reason? I have a severe lack of mega post in my soul.2013-09-04 22:23:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Anybody find anyone else suspicious for a valid reason? I have a severe lack of mega post in my soul.

Sadly Jedi for me is striking me as the most suspicious and I can't seem to find anything for anyone else but I'll look tomorrow.
2013-09-04 22:52:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Sadly Jedi for me is striking me as the most suspicious and I can't seem to find anything for anyone else but I'll look tomorrow.

Is there any reason for your Jedi suspicions?
2013-09-04 23:15:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Is there any reason for your Jedi suspicions?

^^^^^^

This is something that I'd like to know too. Are you just voting for me because we've been talking about me?
2013-09-04 23:44:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Jedi seems innocent to me, since I haven't see him do anything suspicious.2013-09-04 23:49:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


One of you can do the vote count this time. Have fun.2013-09-05 03:06:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Now, when I mega-posted about Jedi, I didn't mean to say: "People, vote feer him, he'z mafiaaaaaa!" I wanted to spring discussions. If you find anything suspicious that I didn't notice, please, let me know.2013-09-05 06:05:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^
​>>>>>>>> std::endl;
2013-09-05 12:12:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Totally unrelated to anything and everything, but oh my Lord, I just realized! This gif sums up how Shooter got voted out last game:

http://likealaugh.org/content/157Quagmire/20130525-123136-157-203.gif
Okay, that was totally unrelated in every way imaginable. I don't have anything important to say at the moment, but this is just too perfect.
2013-09-05 13:33:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I was trying to post that gif back then, but I couldn't find it. Wasn't really sure which search words to use.2013-09-05 14:11:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


This sums up my involvement in the first game:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4vf2iBoKH1r5jt46o1_400.gif
2013-09-05 14:14:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I was trying to post that gif back then, but I couldn't find it. Wasn't really sure which search words to use.
In Like'a'Laugh it comes if you search for: "Tables have turned."
2013-09-05 14:31:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Is there any reason for your Jedi suspicions?
FreeAims post helped give merit to a few suspicions however since that megapost it appears he has now been more active than he was previously. Does that not strike you as being quite strange. Acctually I should have put that in a question so....

Jedi, why are you more active now than when you were before suspicions were raised?
2013-09-05 17:29:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


FreeAims post helped give merit to a few suspicions however since that megapost it appears he has now been more active than he was previously. Does that not strike you as being quite strange. Acctually I should have put that in a question so....

Jedi, why are you more active now than when you were before suspicions were raised?

1. There was a mega post about me, thought I should comment.
2. I've wanted to get involved more before revealing my thoughts on people so it wouldn't seem out of the blue.

Also, when does this day end?
2013-09-05 19:37:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


1. There was a mega post about me, thought I should comment.
2. I've wanted to get involved more before revealing my thoughts on people so it wouldn't seem out of the blue.

Also, when does this day end?

Fair enough. Since that was kind of the back-bone of my suspicions then I retract my vote for you.

EDIT: when does this day end? Also I abstain for today, no more proper evidence means I can't make a good call on voting.
2013-09-05 20:14:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


The recent actions in this thread haven't been exactly large in any way. However, there's someone whose actions constantly raise suspicions and that certain individual is Shooter. How do I back up my claim? Well, I strongly believe I have already made a mega-post about him earlier during this game. While some points I did then still stand, I have also began to see his constant obsession over Jedi (whom I believe to be innocent) suspicious. Really suspicious.

First, you really don't say anything directly about him. Then, after I mega-post, you see it as an opportunity to vote for him. However, as soon as the tables are beginning to turn, you notice this and withdraw your vote. With all due respect, I find this behavior extremely suspicious.

I will be writing a longer, more detailed post about Shooter, but now, I feel like a hammered rabbit on South Pole during a thunderstorm and I am also tired as heck. Still, as for now, I vote for Shooter. Whether you agree with these points, I don't know, but if you think my arguments are unfair, then I will openly say that if you back those claims up well enough, I will withdraw my vote.
2013-09-05 20:58:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


The recent actions in this thread haven't been exactly large in any way. However, there's someone whose actions constantly raise suspicions and that certain individual is Shooter. How do I back up my claim? Well, I strongly believe I have already made a mega-post about him earlier during this game. While some points I did then still stand, I have also began to see his constant obsession over Jedi (whom I believe to be innocent) suspicious. Really suspicious.

First, you really don't say anything directly about him. Then, after I mega-post, you see it as an opportunity to vote for him. However, as soon as the tables are beginning to turn, you notice this and withdraw your vote. With all due respect, I find this behavior extremely suspicious.

I will be writing a longer, more detailed post about Shooter, but now, I feel like a hammered rabbit on South Pole during a thunderstorm and I am also tired as heck. Still, as for now, I vote for Shooter. Whether you agree with these points, I don't know, but if you think my arguments are unfair, then I will openly say that if you back those claims up well enough, I will withdraw my vote.

I don't acctually think you have done a megapost on me but if you have I think it would be on day 2 which I'll try and find.

Anyways I went with my gut instinct like I did with Butter, Mega (I felt sorry for him as being inexperienced can easily lead to your death as I demonstrated last game, didn't vote), and Flem (I had suspicions but at that point I had suspected Ryan more and didn't vote.) Now we all know going with your gut feeling isn't the best way to go but I tried to back-up the claims. Jedi being more active raised a few flags for me but if I was him I would have responded to the mega-post and his other reason was well fair. So that quashed any argument I then had.

I can see how me changing vote can be suspicious but changing votes and opinions is essential to this game. However I can't force you to changes your mind but I myself will admit I was a tad hasty in voting Jedi. Also please bear in mind that was my preliminary vote and would have been subject to change anyway.

EDIT: I will answer any questions. FreeAim your megapost is on day 3.
2013-09-05 21:27:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I've missed so much I have no idea whats going on 2013-09-06 01:48:00

Author:
megaextremist
Posts: 221


Alright-y. Since my last big post about Shooter wasn?t technically me picking up quotes, but me picking up his playstyle as evidence, I want to now do what I never did during the last game (which I obviously should?ve) and actually find valid material to base my suspicions on. While I explained in my last proper post about him during day three why I couldn?t find material, I?m going to start where I left off: day three.

Since it's a mega-post about Shooter, what better way to start it than quoting Ryan?



Woo, I'm Ryan!

Shooter didn't at all respond to me defending myself, saying he stated his reasons for voting on me while ignoring my defenses.
Shooter keeps asking when the day/night will come.
Shooter has yet to vote on anybody who didn't already have suspicion on them.

Votezz fer Shoooterzzz!!.

While you sort of answered to these questions, none of the answers really satisfied me. While I let that slide back then, now I am demanding proper answers for these questions. Why ignore Ryan?s defenses back then and now not ignore Jedi?s? While you explained it that you wanted to avoid odd voting behavior, this is far more odd than withdrawing vote when you hear defenses. Why did you vote for the people who suspected you? Coincidence or strategy? Honestly?

Also, the biggest of the questions is this: why post so much during night? Here?s the scenario I made up that could be going on: Shooter posts actively during nights, so people don't think he?s doing anything else, like communicating with his fellow Mafiosi. While you could be telling the truth when you say it's because of ?tradition,? that is not enough to me at this point of the game.




Anyways I'm still unsure about Butter but my vote will stand for now. I think we should also give Craig the benefit of a doubt since he has said he ends up in an organised mess when he is put in the limelight. Then again I'm only thinking people are going with Snipy there is a 0.000008% chance he is mafia. In short kindly give Craig a chance at least he is responding to the accusations against him even if it does make him look more and more like a mafiosoi.



This is arguably the most controversial thing about your gameplay so far, if you?re a Mafioso. However, I have come up with an explanation. This is just my theory, but it's a possibility:

You voted butter, basing your vote on evidence that wasn?t really heavy or game-changing. Enough to base your vote on, but not something people will follow. After this, if either of you two were to die, the other one would look innocent. If you were to die, people would find Butter innocent, since you were a Mafioso. If butter were to die, you would look innocent since he was a Mafioso. As I based heavy accusations on Butter, you decided that it was better to hold your vote on him to prevent rising suspicions. Then, with Butter dead, you look innocent.

That?s my theory on what happened then.



Wow people suspect the people I suspect (if that of course does make sense) I was reviewing Ryan but now FreeAim has managed to do a megapost (I could not find much on Jedi) this may have changed my theories a bit. Expect my temporary vote in around 3 hours time.

EDIT: With some thought I vote Jedi. However as always this is the temporary vote and not the final one. FreeAim listed good reasons and Jedi hasn't acctually refuted these points. Even if these reasons are vague Jedi has been inactive but posting every so often as to not avoid suspicion. Maybe these small things could be a ploy to throw us of track?

You vote on someone based on reasons I don't deem worthy without adding anything yourself? That?s odd. That?s something Butter would?ve done. How could Jedi have refuted these points during three hours? He hasn?t exactly been active. That is a lousy excuse. Also, he was inactive during last game also, so I highly doubt it's a strategy. People are as active as they can, from my point of view. It's not how often they post, it's the materials in those posts that count.


Then why did Jedi vote him. He clearly couldn't have had a role. Unless of course he is throwing him under a bus.

This is a point I already brought up in my mega-post. However, I can?t say I haven?t wanted to vote the inactive ones myself. The way to deal with them is to vote until day 5 or 6 and then view all their posts and draw maps. Voting out the inactive players has two main bonuses: one, you may be correct, two, they were a civilian? No problem, they weren?t active anyway.

This is not evidence against you, by the way. Just me explaining this thing to you.



Sadly Jedi for me is striking me as the most suspicious and I can't seem to find anything for anyone else but I'll look tomorrow.

How about looking into mirror?

My vote stays on Shooter, for now.

If anyone else becomes more suspicious, I will change my vote. Shooter, you have been constantly proving yourself against all odds, not caring for the mistakes of the last game. I can sort of see a little similarity between the two of us here. This doesn't affect my vote on you in any way, this is just me saying, that whether you're a civilian or a mafia, you've played well so far.
2013-09-06 06:47:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Anyways I went with my gut instinct like I did with Butter, Mega (I felt sorry for him as being inexperienced can easily lead to your death as I demonstrated last game, didn't vote), and Flem (I had suspicions but at that point I had suspected Ryan more and didn't vote.)

FreeAim does make some interesting points in his mega post, but your previous response (the one I've quoted) stands out as being a little.... odd. You've basically contradicted yourself. You say you went with your gut when voting for Flem.... despite the fact that you're gut feeling was that Ryan was more suspicious. Sounds to me like you were voting more with your head than anything. Perhaps you knew that both were innocent, but you saw that Flem was under the cosh, sensed the opportunity, and switched your vote?
2013-09-06 09:31:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Ok, someone make a vote count for day to end.

(Also I posted this on Console Wars, lol. Oops)
2013-09-06 13:20:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Ok, someone make a vote count for day to end.

(Also I posted this on Console Wars, lol. Oops)

One vote on Shooter at the moment.
2013-09-06 13:45:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Seems to me at the moment that some are too scared to vote, over fear of how they'll be perceived by others. The time for being timid is over. With our ever dwindling numbers (albeit with 2 mafiosos lynched... so much better than last game already!) I believe now is the time for action. So, if it helps move things forward, I too shall Vote Shooter.2013-09-06 14:15:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Ok, someone make a vote count for day to end.

(Also I posted this on Console Wars, lol. Oops)

Two votes on Shooter at the moment.
2013-09-06 14:19:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Alright, with 2 votes for shooter (according to FreeAim) Shooter dies.

Night 5 begins!

EDIT: Half of all the players are dead. Congratulations to the remaining 8 for making it this far. The game still continues however.
2013-09-06 14:25:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Oh great I'm dead and I couldn't defend myself in my final hours. Jar next morning for the sake of the other players please say what date day 6 will end on.

EDIT: Can i still respond to FreeAim's mega-post for the lulz?
2013-09-06 16:07:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Oh, it's night then.
Bye Shooter. Happy Hauntings I guess.
2013-09-06 18:33:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Oh great I'm dead and I couldn't defend myself in my final hours. Jar next morning for the sake of the other players please say what date day 6 will end on.

EDIT: Can i still respond to FreeAim's mega-post for the lulz?

Will do. Sorry. Been quite busy irl.

Also, night people. Send yo PMs!
2013-09-07 06:07:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Night's over! It's 24 hours, right?

There's a tea party at my house today, ghosts only. Let's see who'll be joining us, aye?
2013-09-07 16:54:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Night's over! It's 24 hours, right?

There's a tea party at my house today, ghosts only. Let's see who'll be joining us, aye?

Red text. Reeeeddddd teeeexxxttt
2013-09-07 17:06:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Night's over! It's 24 hours, right?

There's a tea party at my house today, ghosts only. Let's see who'll be joining us, aye?

That's not red text! Ehmargeeerd!

Erdert: Geerd Deeern ert, Bertter-Gherker!
2013-09-07 17:06:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Sorry guise. **** happens.2013-09-07 17:19:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


That's not red text! Ehmargeeerd!

Erdert: Geerd Deeern ert, Bertter-Gherker!
Hang on, I gotta reboot FreeAim.
2013-09-07 17:49:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Paper out in 5 minutes..2013-09-07 18:02:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTk1hdnCEAADNuH.jpg

RESULTS:

Civillians:

nysudyrgh
megaextremist
butter-kicker
Shooter0898
flamingemu
SnipySev
Spazz
DawnBreaker_23

Mafiosi:

Burnvictim42
amoney1999
FreeAim
Ali_Star

Trader:

craigmond (he traded his role with butter-kicker)

Special Roles:

Ryan86Me: BARTENDER
Jedi_1993: SHERIFF
gdn001: DOCTOR

People who were able to be killed by the Bartender/Ryan86Me: amoney1999, SnipySev, Jedi_1993, Ali_Star.

Survivors of Jar's Town: amoney1999, FreeAim, Ali_Star, craigmond, Spazz, nysudyrgh, and Jedi_1993.

Thank you for playing this game.

A mafia victory.

PMs:

Civilian: You're a regular townsperson! Perhaps you're an avid bowler! A baker! A candlestick maker! Come up with whatever wild fantasy you want, but I?m sorry to tell you, you didn't luck out with the roles this time. If you like, you may PM me some sort of information, and this will be involved some way in your own death (nothing naughty please). You may be surprised at how biker weasels with chainsaws ended up in a city, but they were most certainly there, and most certainly part of your death. Good luck avoiding the Mafia menace, and saving your own skin!

If you have any questions, or would like to talk about the game, please do.

Good luck!

Mafioso: You are a regular Mafia member, just trying to make a dishonest living. You have no extra roles except for Mafia related voting.
Mafia Voting: Every night you must come to a consensus as to who to vote for. A PM must then be sent to me, and I will kill that person off overnight. With voting, majority rules, so if 3 people want to vote for one person, that person will die. You can access a private Mafia chat here: REDACTED. The password is We_Are_Farmers. I will be checking the chat every now and then for voting confirmation. Someone still needs to send me a PM, but I don't require PMs from all players if votes are in the chat room.

The Trader: Welcome to the Mafia! Except that you have the most powerful role in the whole game. As the trader, at any point in the game, you may switch your mafia role with any other person. That person will become a mafioso, and you will become their role. But you still have to vote with the mafia.
Mafia Voting: Every night you must come to a consensus as to who to vote for. A PM must then be sent to me, and I will kill that person off overnight. With voting, majority rules, so if 3 people want to vote for one person, that person will die. You can access a private Mafia chat here: REDACTED. The password is We_Are_Farmers. I will be checking the chat every now and then for voting confirmation. Someone still needs to send me a PM, but I don't require PMs from all players if votes are in the chat room.

Bartender: You are an innocent bartender. There are 4 people in this town that can be killed by you. 2 are mafiosos, and the others are innocent. Every night, you can choose whether to serve someone drinks, or not. It's up to you. You don't even have to serve anyone drinks if you want.

Good luck!

The Sheriff: It's time to cancel robbing the Pine City Stage, because you?re the new sheriff in town! Every night, using your acute mental ability (and maybe a few shots of whiskey), you?re able to discern the role of any member of the town. During the night, you will send me a PM about a particular player, and I will tell you their role. Every detail about their role will be explained (though if you have questions, you can ask and I?ll see what I can say), so there will be no doubt about what they are trying to achieve. You will have to convince the rest of the town who is trustworthy on your own, but the information might just help keep you alive.

Good luck!

The Doctor: Several years in Medical School have given you the amazing ability to heal an individual from almost any wound. That and the word ?Doctor? in front of your name. During the night, it is your job to attempt to protect the townspeople from death. Each night, you will PM me the name of a member who you wish to save. You may attempt to save anyone (including yourself), and they will be protected from death for that night. If you attempt to protect yourself and are attacked, you will lose your doctoring skills due to botched surgery, but your identity will not be announced in the paper.

Good luck!

The big question is, who will host the next game?
2013-09-07 18:17:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Wait, game over already?2013-09-07 18:30:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891



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