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I have again looked over things again and I feel as if I should vote for burn but it is the early game so I withdraw my vote for burn.2013-08-02 21:45:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I have again looked over things again and I feel as if I should vote for burn but it is the early game so I withdraw my vote for burn.

So... you want to vote for Burn, but you're not? Why? Seems like you're trying to plant seeds, but not follow through with your convicitions.
2013-08-02 21:49:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


So... you want to vote for Burn, but you're not? Why? Seems like you're trying to plant seeds, but not follow through with your convicitions.

I feel as if I should vote for him but there doesn't seem to be enough evidence for a conviction and maybe I was a bit hasty in voting for him.
2013-08-02 21:54:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I have again looked over things again and I feel as if I should vote for burn but it is the early game so I withdraw my vote for burn.

Well if you think Burn is mafia you should vote for him. I personally don't think he is but why did you vote for him in the first place only to withdraw now? It kind of makes you look as if you're getting off the wagon before someone suspects you. Just a theory though.
2013-08-02 21:55:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I'm getting the exact same vibes, and it's exactly why I posted about butter at the beginning of the day. I'll do some digging later, expect some more mega posts from me.2013-08-02 21:58:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Well, Butter, that's a fair-enough argument. I vote fooooooor...
I don't know, however, I completely withdraw my vote completely. I'll vote soon.
2013-08-02 22:02:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I vote for Dawn Breaker. I know she was mafia last time, but there's a chance she is this time, too.

And I want retribution for allowing her to live last time

I love you too. <3
2013-08-02 22:35:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23
Posts: 568


So I appear to have made myself look suspicious....... fudge

In all seriousness I have stated why I'm no longer voting for Burn if it does in anyway make me look like a mafioso then I apologise but isn't it better that I'm not 100% because I'm sure the mafia would only rarely vote for each other.
2013-08-02 23:29:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Dawn looks suspicious, but I'm dead so I can't vote!2013-08-03 00:04:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Dawn looks suspicious, but I'm dead so I can't vote!

2013-08-03 00:53:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23
Posts: 568


Hello, everyone! Sorry about my last (really incorrect) report, that was a W.I.P that I didn't mean to post and I've already deleted it. Here's an up-to-the-latest-post report.

S.O.N.Y REPORT

The next people up to be killed by Sand, Oblong Necromancers, or Yard-sticks are...

Burnvictim42 (1): gdn001
Dawnbreaker_23 (1): RockSauron

People who have yet to vote: CyberSora, Dawnbreaker_23, butter-kicker, Dragonvarsity, CogMonkey, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond, Jedi_1993, Burnvictim42, Shooter0898, FreeAim

That is all. Remember, folks - you have until 5:00 PM EST on August 4th to vote.
2013-08-03 05:04:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Uhh... I think that's still incorrect, as I see 2 votes for me, but 1 person Braaiiiiins.2013-08-03 05:18:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Uhh... I think that's still incorrect, as I see 2 votes for me, but 1 person
Looks fine to me
2013-08-03 05:41:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


After reading the past comments here, the only person I really, really find suspicious is in fact Shooter0898. I'll feel bad for doing this, but then again I'd feel bad if I voted... Well, anyone, so I can only do the best I can to prevail in this game. I vote for Shooter0898 to be evicted.

No harsh feelings, I hope.

Also, Burnvictim, maybe that "2" you saw was from your name. You are "Burnvictim42," right?
2013-08-03 10:13:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


FreeAim no hard feelings for voting for who think is mafia. My vote will wait unless someone accidentally revealed themselves as mafia or I have enough evidence to back-up a vote.

EDIT: I vote for
2013-08-03 15:24:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Also, Burnvictim, maybe that "2" you saw was from your name. You are "Burnvictim42," right? He edited the post afterwards. Braaiiiiins.2013-08-03 16:46:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


B.R.A.I.N.S REPORT


The next people up to be killed by Bouncy-balls, Rak, Apple2012s, Irritation, Nobody, or Sleep are...


Burnvictim42 (1): gdn001
Dawnbreaker_23 (1): RockSauron
Shooter0898 (1): FreeAim
(1): Shooter0898


People who have yet to vote: CyberSora, Dawnbreaker_23, butter-kicker, Dragonvarsity, CogMonkey, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond, Jedi_1993, Burnvictim42


That is all. Remember, folks - you have until 5:00 PM EST on August 4th to vote.
2013-08-03 19:54:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Apple2012s

Aha! I vote for Apple2012!

Seriously though, I don't know who to vote for. Burn has been a bit weird but to be fair he's been undead for quite a while now. After being the last to die in the last game I'm still pretty fresh and I shouldn't judge
2013-08-03 20:09:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Burnvictim42 (1): gdn001
Dawnbreaker_23 (1): RockSauron
Shooter0898 (1): FreeAim
(1): Shooter0898

This seems like a fun way to settle this day.
2013-08-03 20:09:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


This seems like a fun way to settle this day.

I stand by my vote.
2013-08-03 20:30:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So wait...

If nobody changes their vote, then Ryan uses random.org to settle the four-way tie, and the gopher gets axed, does that mean nobody dies? (well, aside from the make-believe gopher..)
2013-08-03 20:32:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Pretty much yeah. Just think of the headline if the gopher is killed.2013-08-03 20:38:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Pretty much yeah. Just think of the headline if the gopher is killed.

Hell, I'm starting to think he's mafia. If he does anything suspicious I'll gopher it and vote.
(Couldn't resist the pun)
2013-08-03 20:58:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


If dies, there will be a new rule where you cannot post . So Dawn can no longer post on this game.2013-08-03 21:01:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Hell, I'm starting to think he's mafia. If he does anything suspicious I'll gopher it and vote.
(Couldn't resist the pun)
Someone give this man a rimshot.
2013-08-03 21:01:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Someone give this man a rimshot.

I read that wrong the first time....was not pleasant.
2013-08-03 21:03:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


The last few posts have been brilliant.

Anyways I find voting for the gopher is a good placeholder. (Let's hope I'm able to change it to avoid embarrassment.)
2013-08-03 21:07:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Accidental double post. (Don't know how to delete)

At the bottom of your post, you'll see buttons titled "Edit Post," "Reply," and "Reply With Quote."

Click "Edit Post" to edit things like you just did, click the "Delete" button which is at the bottom of the edit box, to the right of "Save" and "Go Advanced," and to the left of "Cancel." Once you click "Delete," fill in the bubble for what says "Delete Message," and then without typing in a reason, click "Delete Post."
2013-08-03 21:12:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


So wait...

If nobody changes their vote, then Ryan uses random.org to settle the four-way tie, and the gopher gets axed, does that mean nobody dies? (well, aside from the make-believe gopher..)
Depends on how the gopher handles the news (by that, I mean no, the gopher can't die in place of someone else, that'd be silly).
2013-08-03 21:19:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Dragon is not mafia as only civilians would help others. By that I mean thank-you 2013-08-03 21:22:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Dragon is not mafia as only civilians would help others. By that I mean thank-you

No problem! That's what civvies are for. :hero:

..Although of course people might interpret that as me trying to ingrain a false position of innocence into players' minds, where that really isn't my intention. Meh, different people interpret things differently, I might as well just end with that. ^^
2013-08-03 21:39:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


I hope people don't think I would be anyone remotely important, because I don't want to die. Don't kill me.2013-08-03 21:53:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I hope people don't think I would be anyone remotely important, because I don't want to die. Don't kill me.

Why don't you want people to kill you? Hmmm I'll be watching *walks backwards into water*

People wouldn't have thought anyone was important except players with experience so you saying this is quite strange.
2013-08-03 22:03:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Why don't you want people to kill you? Hmmm I'll be watching *walks backwards into water*

People wouldn't have thought anyone was important except players with experience so you saying this is quite strange.
N-N-No! I am not a mafioso! Stop making such assumptions! I AM NOT ONE OF THEM!!!
2013-08-03 22:07:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


N-N-No! I am not a mafioso! Stop making such assumptions! I AM NOT ONE OF THEM!!!

You have just made yourself the person I most suspect I'll leave Burn for now but I now vote for FreeAim he clearly has some role wether good or bad is unknown but I expect he is either the vigilante or the assassin.
2013-08-03 22:21:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


You have just made yourself the person I most suspect I'll leave Burn for now but I now vote for FreeAim he clearly has some role wether good or bad is unknown but I expect he is either the vigilante or the assassin.

Well, I can't change your mind. Quoting the movie "Purge" I can only say: "Try and survive the night."

Seriously though, as Zack Snyder once said in a cheesy-butt movie that never happened: "You're misjudging me!"
2013-08-03 22:32:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I'll put up another mega post later tonight, right now I don't feel like typing after putting together my latest necromantic work (see signature). Braiiiinss I guess.
Secret Message Time. Post a similar reply if you read this.
EDIT: It's later tonight, and I've gone through the thread again and haven't come to a solid conclusion. Freeaim, Shooter, and Rock are currently ringing a bell... but not strongly enough. I'm not convinced of their guilt, or their innocence for that manner; so i'll wait for now.
2013-08-03 22:33:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Freeaim, Shooter, and Rock are currently ringing a bell... but not strongly enough. I'm not convinced of their guilt, or their innocence for that manner; so i'll wait for now.
Secret messages YAY only mafia would miss this.
People only started suspecting me because I withdrew my vote for you which seems a little stupid since I myself weren't sure if you we're guilty or not.
2013-08-04 15:27:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Hey guys, I'm going to be in the car when the day ends, so just remember that night starts at 5:00 EST (I won't be here to remind you). Here's a quick report, as well (YAY, 4 WAY TIE!):

Burnvictim42 (1): gdn001
Dawnbreaker_23 (1): RockSauron
Shooter0898 (1): FreeAim
FreeAim: (1): Shooter0898

People who have yet to vote: CyberSora, Dawnbreaker_23, butter-kicker, Dragonvarsity, CogMonkey, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond, Jedi_1993, Burnvictim42
2013-08-04 15:41:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


I change my vote to Shooter. His logic has been too flimsy for me to trust him.2013-08-04 15:45:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


So wait, is there no Don this time around Ryan?2013-08-04 15:56:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Looks like I'm dying tonight then shame too you'll be losing an active member and another civilian.2013-08-04 16:08:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Looks like I'm dying tonight then shame too you'll be losing an active member and another civilian.

Unless, of course, you try to save yourself... be it by forming a defense, or voting for someone who'd give you a tie.
2013-08-04 16:14:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Unless, of course, you try to save yourself... be it by forming a defense, or voting for someone who'd give you a tie.

Yeah I forgot who is inactive. I change vote to CyberSora (has he posted at all?)
2013-08-04 16:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Yeah I forgot who is inactive. I change vote to CyberSora (has he posted at all?)

Maybe once? I dunno, but targeting an inactive has reminded me of the last round of Mafia where some of the inactives were kept around, and indeed, one of them, TheUltraDeino, turned out to be a mafioso. However, the fact that the mafiosos killed amoney who wasn't exactly the most active of the participants could just be a random vote, maybe one of the mafiosos lurking as an inactive, or maybe to cause drama between the more active players? Hard to say, I'll see if I can come to any of my own conclusions via some past posts before Day 2 ends.

But why did you decide to go after an inactive, Shooter?
2013-08-04 16:28:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Yeah, I change my vote to Cyber. He could be an inactive mafia, but honestly in leiu of actual evidence I'll get rid of someone who isn't actually participating.2013-08-04 16:31:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


2013-08-04 16:31:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


Maybe once? I dunno, but targeting an inactive has reminded me of the last round of Mafia where some of the inactives were kept around, and indeed, one of them, TheUltraDeino, turned out to be a mafioso. However, the fact that the mafiosos killed amoney who wasn't exactly the most active of the participants could just be a random vote, maybe one of the mafiosos lurking as an inactive, or maybe to cause drama between the more active players? Hard to say, I'll see if I can come to any of my own conclusions via some past posts before Day 2 ends.

But why did you decide to go after an inactive, Shooter?

Because I don't think going after active members will help our cause and mafia are usually more inactive.
2013-08-04 16:34:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Because I don't think going after active members will help our cause and mafia are usually more inactive.

Hmm, that is a good point. After doing some investigative stalking research, Cyber has been on recently despite barely posting whatsoever in the thread, and while I'm not so sure what the chances are of a completely inactive member being a mafioso, this was the case with Deino last round, so it's not like it hasn't happened before or will happen again. Plus, Cyber helped with a lot of the old rounds for LBPC Mafia and was the very first to sign up for this, so I'm not sure why someone who revived from the dead being the first person to sign up would just play things inactive unless it was for a good reason, and lurking is, after all, a good mafia tradition.....

Bah, I know this looks like copy-cat bandwagging or whatever you'd like to call it, but the case is definitely convincing after thinking more about it, and if it means being able to see more interesting debates between the more active members while also having enough wiggle room numbers-wise to take the chance of voting an inactive out, well then sure, I vote for Cyber.

(While carefully ignoring Schark's creepy standalone gopher post.)
2013-08-04 16:41:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Maybe once? I dunno, but targeting an inactive has reminded me of the last round of Mafia where some of the inactives were kept around, and indeed, one of them, TheUltraDeino, turned out to be a mafioso. However, the fact that the mafiosos killed amoney who wasn't exactly the most active of the participants could just be a random vote, maybe one of the mafiosos lurking as an inactive, or maybe to cause drama between the more active players? Hard to say, I'll see if I can come to any of my own conclusions via some past posts before Day 2 ends.

But why did you decide to go after an inactive, Shooter?

Well, the reason that I wasn't very active on day 1 was because I had a busy day and couldn't check this page, and the main reason I'm not active now is because I'm dead.
2013-08-04 16:55:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Yeah, I change my vote to Cyber. He could be an inactive mafia, but honestly in leiu of actual evidence I'll get rid of someone who isn't actually participating.

Right, so you vote for Shooter, Shooter says he's voting for Cyber, then you instantly change your vote to Cyber.... any reason other than his inactivity?
2013-08-04 17:29:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Right, so you vote for Shooter, Shooter says he's voting for Cyber, then you instantly change your vote to Cyber.... any reason other than his inactivity?

nope, though you're free to think otherwise.

cybersora is just a wild card, one who could swing either way. I want to get rid of this pure uncertainty so that all that remains are people who leave clues to their leanings.
2013-08-04 17:34:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


We've been lucky on the inactivity vote before, but I would actually expect mafiosos to be less likely to be inactive. After all, they have more of a reason to keep up with the game.

Which begs the question, did Night 1 end early?

EDIT:

I know it could also be a strategy but I'm not prepared to make that judgement on anyone yet.
2013-08-04 17:36:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


Night 1 did end early by a little bit. There doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to vote out inactives though, since the peanut grenaaaaaaaade guy will kill them after 3 inactive days.2013-08-04 17:40:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


There doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to vote out inactives though, since the peanut grenaaaaaaaade guy will kill them after 3 inactive days.

Also a good point. Even if a mafioso is voting at night, they need to post here right? And an active mafioso would probably be careful to make sure they did.
2013-08-04 17:42:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


nope, though you're free to think otherwise.

cybersora is just a wild card, one who could swing either way. I want to get rid of this pure uncertainty so that all that remains are people who leave clues to their leanings.

Hmmmm, when you put it that way it kinda makes sense... in a weird way.
2013-08-04 17:42:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


cybersora is just a wild card, one who could swing either way. I want to get rid of this pure uncertainty so that all that remains are people who leave clues to their leanings.


Hmmmm, when you put it that way it kinda makes sense... in a weird way.

Yes it is good reasoning, except there's no reason to use a vote kill on him when the rules of the game will do it for us. When and if we see CyberSora getting in just enough posts to stay alive, that'll be more suspicious behavior.
2013-08-04 17:56:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


Yes it is good reasoning, except there's no reason to use a vote kill on him when the rules of the game will do it for us. When and if we see CyberSora getting in just enough posts to stay alive, that'll be more suspicious behavior.

Well, he hasn't been on for fourteen hours, and his name was only just brought up for voting now. He might have not needed a reason to post having been confident nobody would suspect him having ties with the mafia, only to come back online and end up being too late to catch up on the fact that he'd been axed at the last second.

....Then again, if he was a mafioso, he probably would have found it important to know when each day would end, so he could prepare in advance just in case he had gotten the majority vote at the last second. Hmm..
2013-08-04 18:03:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


I remember how in the last mafia game, all amoney did before being killed was say "O vote for (insert name here), and I'm still inocent. I was actually shocked when he was revealed inocent. Good times.2013-08-04 18:15:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Well, he hasn't been on for fourteen hours, and his name was only just brought up for voting now. He might have not needed a reason to post having been confident nobody would suspect him having ties with the mafia, only to come back online and end up being too late to catch up on the fact that he'd been axed at the last second.

....Then again, if he was a mafioso, he probably would have found it important to know when each day would end, so he could prepare in advance just in case he had gotten the majority vote at the last second. Hmm..

Exactly its only now that we suspect Cyber because people don't notice the little details, Cyber hasn't done anything to make her look like Mafia but she hasn't done anything that makes her look like a civilian either. I will only vote for her however if we can all come to some sort of agreement.
2013-08-04 18:44:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Exactly its only now that we suspect Cyber because people don't notice the little details, Cyber hasn't done anything to make him look like Mafia but he hasn't done anything that makes him look like a civilian either. I will only vote for him however if we can all come to some sort of agreement.

Fixed.
2013-08-04 18:57:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


I remember how in the last mafia game, all amoney did before being killed was say "O vote for (insert name here), and I'm still inocent. I was actually shocked when he was revealed inocent. Good times.

And no one listened either
2013-08-04 19:38:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I think I'll survive the night. I may be wrong, but this is just a theory of mine. We'll see how it goes.2013-08-04 19:46:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Rawk is a mafioso! /runs2013-08-04 19:54:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


I think I'll survive the night. I may be wrong, but this is just a theory of mine. We'll see how it goes.

Don't get your hopes up. I thought I would survive in the last game, but I died.
2013-08-04 20:01:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I think I'll survive the night. I may be wrong, but this is just a theory of mine. We'll see how it goes.
I'm not sure any of us can sleep freely with that Vigilante on the loose. Seeing as they killed someone night 1, night 2 may just have another death =/ braiiiiins.
2013-08-04 20:08:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


I'm not sure any of us can sleep freely with that Vigilante on the loose.

I think everyone is afraid of the vigilante. They killed Sev for no reason so no-one is really safe now with all the accusations. Either that or the vigilante thought they had to kill someone but now knows better.
2013-08-04 20:52:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I'm not sure any of us can sleep freely with that Vigilante on the loose. Seeing as they killed someone night 1, night 2 may just have another death =/

Trust me... I can sleep like a log even if murderer is just outside my doorstep. Right now, though, I am more afraid of the mafia than the vigilante. Who ever he or she is, I don't see any reason for anyone to suspect me for anything, so... I think I'm clear, so far.
2013-08-04 21:32:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


How long till this day ends?2013-08-04 21:33:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


How long till this day ends?

Less than half an hour from now, I believe.


I'm not sure any of us can sleep freely with that Vigilante on the loose. Seeing as they killed someone night 1, night 2 may just have another death =/

You forgot to add the braaaains.
2013-08-04 21:34:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Less than half an hour from now, I believe.

Not much time left quickly turn out the lights the mafia won't realise we're at home.
2013-08-04 21:39:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Not much time left quickly turn out the lights the mafia won't realise we're at home.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Sunset_2007-1.jpg

D:
2013-08-04 21:41:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Okay. Good night, ladies and gentlemen!

Muahahahahaha...
2013-08-04 21:42:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Okay. Good night, ladies and gentlemen!

Muahahahahaha...

2013-08-04 21:47:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Not night yet. You have 5 MINUTES TO VOTE! (le car trip ended sooner than I thought it would)2013-08-04 21:56:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Okay. Good night, ladies and gentlemen!

Muahahahahaha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Nx61LvzRg
2013-08-04 22:11:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Not night yet. You have 5 MINUTES TO VOTE! (le car trip ended sooner than I thought it would)

Well it's night time now
2013-08-04 22:11:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


You forgot to add the braaaains.
Fixed. Thaaaaaaaanks.
2013-08-04 23:01:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


So who got the most votes?2013-08-05 01:38:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


So who got the most votes?

CyberSora.
2013-08-05 01:57:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


DAY 3 BEGINS!

http://i.imgur.com/hDI5iua.jpg
-CyberSora, Civilian, Killed by Fellow Civvies

LET THE DAY BEGIN
2013-08-05 02:17:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Let it be known I am not a mafia! Otherwise, the mafia would not try to kill me!

... Kinda takes the fun out of it. Eh.

Well, anyway. Obviously, I wouldn't be killed by peanuts. GOLLY, it's like you mafia scum don't pay attention!
2013-08-05 02:32:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


So ANOTHER civvie killed? And not a single mafia member? Man, I'm almost certain the mafia will win.2013-08-05 02:35:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Well crap, turns out the Cyber hunch failed. :F

It's good to see the Vigilante backed off this time though. I'm guessing that, considering there still haven't been any concrete points made to who the vigilante could be, that whoever did this was probably just using some flimsy suspicions on Night 1 instead of actually being on some pursuit for revenge. Also glad Rock's still alive, whoever that doctor was, props to him or her for choosing right! ^^

EDIT:


So ANOTHER civvie killed? And not a single mafia member? Man, I'm almost certain the mafia will win.

Well, we started this game out with seventeen players, so I'm guessing there's either four or five mafiosos. (preferrably four, of course.) Thankfully the cast is still chock full of experienced players and it looks like all of our special roles are intact. But I do agree, change will have to be made quickly. Gotta head off to bed, but I'll see what I can dig up tomorrow. @_@
2013-08-05 02:36:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


So 13 live... We all know I am not Mafia now, so that leaves 12 potential suspects...

I'm guessing 4 mafia members. So If we picked at random, we'd have a 33% chance of choosing right.

Worse case scenario, if we don't kill a mafia tonight, and the doctor doesn't save the mafia's target, and the mafia hitman kills one of his targets tonight... we'd be down to 6 civilians and 4 mafia... And then if we repeat that, 3 civiliand a 4 mafia...

... We need to kill some mafia scum :kz:
2013-08-05 02:41:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Wow, the doctor makes a majestic save once again on day 2. Last game Kala saved MATEOS, and us mafiosos were very upset.2013-08-05 02:48:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


So... current list of plaaaaaaaayers, and an observation.

Active players
RockSauron
butter-kicker
Dragonvarsity
Burnvictim42
Shooter0898
Freeaim

Lurking Players
Dawnbreaker_23
gdn001
Ali_star
xxMATEOSxx
craigmond
Jedi_1993
CogMonkey

It's hard to say much about these folks, as they haven't said a ton. But i'm inclined to think that most of our mafiosos are in the lurking category. Nice to see everyone's semi active at least
2013-08-05 04:23:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Makes sense, I'm not sure how much it applies but we can also factor in how active people are on the site in general. If inactive site visitors are inactive here, it makes sense. Or alternatively, if overall inactive but active here, maybe they have a reason to be, like a role.

Its not definitive by any means but...yeah I got nothing.
2013-08-05 04:44:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


Rock, you lucky son of a classy lady.

What now? Will the mafia keep trying to kill you? Will the doctor keep saving you? This is going to be interesting.
2013-08-05 08:10:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


This is very unfortunate. Hopefully we get at least one mafioso killed next night.2013-08-05 09:20:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Lurking Players
Dawnbreaker_23
gdn001
Ali_star
xxMATEOSxx
craigmond
Jedi_1993
CogMonkey


Apologies for my "lurking". I've recently joined a Fantasy Football league on another forum, so that's been taking up a bit of my time recently. Also, being really active at the start of the last game didn't exactly do me any favour.

Isn't craigmond on holiday at the moment? I'm sure he said he'd be away for the first few days.

I don't know about anyone else, but Shooter is looking a bit dodgy to me after he deflected the attention on to Cyber with ease. But I look at his posts and to me there's nothing to suggest he's working with anyone else, so my gut instinct is that he could be the vigilante.
2013-08-05 09:44:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Obviously a mafia attempt to kill Rock does point to his innocence but he was so quick to state "I AM NOT MAFIA" that he's made himself more suspicious in my eyes than if he'd said nothing at all. He's probably not mafia but he could easily be the serial killer or something.

Burn is still being weird, Shooter too. But still not really much in the way of solid evidence
2013-08-05 11:35:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Obviously a mafia attempt to kill Rock does point to his innocence but he was so quick to state "I AM NOT MAFIA" that he's made himself more suspicious in my eyes than if he'd said nothing at all. He's probably not mafia but he could easily be the serial killer or something.

Burn is still being weird, Shooter too. But still not really much in the way of solid evidence

I guess Rock could be the vigilante, but I think we narrowed it down to two categories of players. One being players who are new to this game (Shooter0898, Jedi_1993, FreeAim, butter-kicker) and the other being last round's mafiosos who could be out for revenge. (CogMonkey, Dawnbreaker_23) Since it's vital that we try knocking out a mafioso and there's too many possibilities for the vigilante, I think we pretty much agreed that we wouldn't focus on the person since there wasn't anything concrete, not that I don't think he or she could still be a threat. Nonetheless, the person clearly backed off for the night, so it's possible it was a rookie mistake or maybe just some mid-range player who got too excited starting out, but given the lack of evidence, it's probably not a mafioso from last round on a revenge spree, since he or she could've clearly gotten away with taking another person out without any fingers pointed their way.

As for Shooter, the guy is nice but some of his finger-pointing against FreeAim can be pretty dodgy, although FreeAim makes some silly posts himself, so it'll take some digging to find anything substantial in their own conversations. As for Burn, he's a pretty experienced player like Rock, which could swing either way for us. I appreciate the fact that he actually tries to contribute some of his own observations mid-game, whereas many mafiosos might try letting everyone else duke it out while they sit on the sideline, so if Burn's a mafioso, his experience has definitely come in handy. I wouldn't put him as Target #1 though, especially since targeting another "experienced" player like himself, could put a target on his back. Ali seems pretty experienced too, so I'd probably say the same about him for that. Anyway though, I'll come up with a megaton-post describing my thoughts on each player later today.
2013-08-05 11:49:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Obviously a mafia attempt to kill Rock does point to his innocence but he was so quick to state "I AM NOT MAFIA" that he's made himself more suspicious in my eyes than if he'd said nothing at all. He's probably not mafia but he could easily be the serial killer or something.

Burn is still being weird, Shooter too. But still not really much in the way of solid evidence

I think we can establish that Rock is innocent. And isn't the assassin on their side, with the vigilante (supposedly) on ours?

As to my lurkiness, I'm trying not to vote unless I'm sure, which I realise won't happen. So I guess I vote for Shooter, his post about not being mafia was a little strange. It's not a lot I know and I'll probably change my mind but the only people I'm 100% sure of are myself and Rock.

Also I'd like to say to the Doc, well done, though now you need to decide if you are saving Rock again or not. :/
Glad I'm not making that decision!
2013-08-05 11:56:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I think we can establish that Rock is innocent. And isn't the assassin on their side, with the vigilante (supposedly) on ours?

But surely the mafia and assassin don't know each others identities? Otherwise that's a huge advantage to the mafia since the vigilante doesn't know who the civilians are, right?
2013-08-05 12:04:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


But surely the mafia and assassin don't know each others identities? Otherwise that's a huge advantage to the mafia since the vigilante doesn't know who the civilians are, right?

True, I hadn't though of it that way. Ok, so if thats the case then Rock may be the assassin but then that still means he's not Mafia.
2013-08-05 12:14:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Well, given that it says the Assassin is on the Mafia faction, I'd assume there's some legitimate connection with the other mafiosos, otherwise there's not much to differentiate between that role and the Vigilante, since they'd both just be blindy killing people, hoping to guess civilian and hoping to guess mafioso. Also, Ryan mentioned that the Assassin can only kill once wheras the Vigilante can do so twice, so the Assassin's shortage of kills in comparison probably means the advantage of knowing who's a part of the mafia.

Those are just my thoughts though, I'm not so sure if they'll turn out completely true.
2013-08-05 12:20:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


A new day and more suspicion YAY. My strange finger pointing habits are mainly due to my lack of experience so please be patient.

anyways I vote again.
2013-08-05 14:58:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


If Rock was the vigilante, I don't think he would have killed off Snipy on the first night.

Anyways, that was a sweet save from the doctor, I was afraid that we would lose Rock at the beginning again. D:
2013-08-05 16:56:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Well, given that it says the Assassin is on the Mafia faction, I'd assume there's some legitimate connection with the other mafiosos, otherwise there's not much to differentiate between that role and the Vigilante, since they'd both just be blindy killing people, hoping to guess civilian and hoping to guess mafioso. Also, Ryan mentioned that the Assassin can only kill once wheras the Vigilante can do so twice, so the Assassin's shortage of kills in comparison probably means the advantage of knowing who's a part of the mafia.

Correct. To clarify - the assassin is part of the mafia's private chat, and communicate with them/vote on the night kill as normal.
2013-08-05 18:55:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


I've gone through and made a spreadsheet containing important* posts made in this thread... and here come some more opinions.

RockSauron: CLEARLY not mafia as he was targeted last night.
Burnvictim42: CLEARLY not mafia as its me. Also, reasons.

"Active"
butter-kicker: Voted for 1 known civilian. Hesitant about voting without consensus.
Dragonvarsity: Voted for 2 known civilians. Hesitant about voting in general. Some commentary re: Vigilante.
Shooter0898: Voted for 2 known civilians. Some commentary re: Vigilante.
Freeaim: Voted for 1 known civilian. Other votes for shooter and butter. Sleeps incredibly soundly.

"Inactive"
Dawnbreaker_23: lurking. Voted for 1 known civilian., hasn't said anything important since.
gdn001: lurking. Voted for 2 known civilians, cast some suspicion re: Vigilante being former mafia.
CogMonkey: lurking. His posts about not getting a civvie PM make me think he's innocent, but it could be a ruse.
Ali_star: lurking. Hints Shooter is Vigilante. No votes or other commentary.
xxMATEOSxx: lurking. Has said nothing important.
craigmond: lurking. Posted once in Day 1, will be removed Day 5, but still active on the forums.
Jedi_1993: lurking. Has voted for Shooter twice. No other important posts.

The more reasoning we post in this thread, the more of a chance we have of catching the actual mafia. Posts like this can't be made when you're dead, so make sure you speak out now before its too late. I'm still not discounting the Vigilante... they've been a wild card so far, and I'd rather leave as little to chance as possible.

I'll try to get this spreadsheet up on a google doc later tonight.


*Importance defined by me of course Selection criteria were: posts accusing other players, posts re: the Vigilante (a role which has been played quite bizarrely so far), and posts defending themself with reasoning (ie: not just "i'm innocent guys ")
2013-08-05 20:55:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


So, since I clearly am not going to be targeted... I'mma dance!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-At4X5PNQdEY/T1AvdtHc-nI/AAAAAAAAAOw/RusLHbR6OBg/s1600/Dancing_Peanut2.gif
2013-08-05 20:57:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


When does this day end? 2013-08-05 21:22:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So, since I clearly am not going to be targeted... I'mma dance!

Famous last words.
2013-08-05 21:39:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I laughed out loud when Burnvictim42 noted that I sleep incredibly soundly. In case you're wondering, I am closer to that friendly neighborhood old lady who gives cookies to children than to an actual murderer/brutalist. However, it is up to you to find out whether the flour in my cookies is clean.

I am telling you: it is.

EDIT: Is it possible that the mafia is that clever and manipulative? Is it possible that they actually purposefully tried to kill Rock, knowing he'd be saved? What if this is all just a scheme to cover the fact that RockSauron is, in fact, a mafioso?

Maybe I've watched too much Sherlock lately.
2013-08-05 21:50:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Yeah, you have.

I'm pretty sure it's also 100% impossible for the mafia to vote one of themselves off.

Also, only the doctor could have saved me, and the doctor is obviously not mafia.
2013-08-05 21:56:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I've gone through and made a spreadsheet containing important* posts made in this thread... and here come some more opinions.

RockSauron: CLEARLY not mafia as he was targeted last night.
Burnvictim42: CLEARLY not mafia as its me. Also, reasons.

"Active"
butter-kicker: Voted for 1 known civilian. Hesitant about voting without consensus.
Dragonvarsity: Voted for 2 known civilians. Hesitant about voting in general. Some commentary re: Vigilante.
Shooter0898: Voted for 2 known civilians. Some commentary re: Vigilante.
Freeaim: Voted for 1 known civilian. Other votes for shooter and butter. Sleeps incredibly soundly.

"Inactive"
Dawnbreaker_23: lurking. Voted for 1 known civilian., hasn't said anything important since.
gdn001: lurking. Voted for 2 known civilians, cast some suspicion re: Vigilante being former mafia.
CogMonkey: lurking. His posts about not getting a civvie PM make me think he's innocent, but it could be a ruse.
Ali_star: lurking. Hints Shooter is Vigilante. No votes or other commentary.
xxMATEOSxx: lurking. Has said nothing important.
craigmond: lurking. Posted once in Day 1, will be removed Day 5, but still active on the forums.
Jedi_1993: lurking. Has voted for Shooter twice. No other important posts.

The more reasoning we post in this thread, the more of a chance we have of catching the actual mafia. Posts like this can't be made when you're dead, so make sure you speak out now before its too late. I'm still not discounting the Vigilante... they've been a wild card so far, and I'd rather leave as little to chance as possible.

I'll try to get this spreadsheet up on a google doc later tonight.


*Importance defined by me of course Selection criteria were: posts accusing other players, posts re: the Vigilante (a role which has been played quite bizarrely so far), and posts defending themself with reasoning (ie: not just "i'm innocent guys ")

I'm not lurking, I made my point of my availability clear before I started, saying that for the first three weeks I won't be able to be around.
2013-08-05 21:57:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


EDIT: Is it possible that the mafia is that clever and manipulative? Is it possible that they actually purposefully tried to kill Rock, knowing he'd be saved? What if this is all just a scheme to cover the fact that RockSauron is, in fact, a mafioso?

Maybe I've watched too much Sherlock lately.

http://i41.tinypic.com/autqux.png
2013-08-05 21:58:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Yeah, you have.

I'm pretty sure it's also 100% impossible for the mafia to vote one of themselves off.

Also, only the doctor could have saved me, and the doctor is obviously not mafia.
It may not be... but voting off rock and hoping he would be saved would be SUCH a gamble that it's inconceivable. One of the games I was in, I believe I won as a mafioso with a similar tactic. The mafiosos had a 1 shot bodyguard who could save a person at night... so we all voted to kill a mafioso, and saved them with the bodyguard. This made it obvious to the civilians the mafioso was a civilian... and they sneakily backstabbed their way to the end.

But I digress. The more this goes on, the more I have a feeling there aren't actually any additional special roles, and this gamble would be impossible on its own. Frankly, I was expecting to get targeted last night after my outburst, and the mafia does seem to intend to kill off the "experienced" players now. Hm. Food for thought.

EDIT: @ Craigmond: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lurking
also braaaaains.
2013-08-05 22:04:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Yeah, you have.

I'm pretty sure it's also 100% impossible for the mafia to vote one of themselves off.

Also, only the doctor could have saved me, and the doctor is obviously not mafia.
Unless of course, the mafia is not the mafia, but just Doctor and his companions trying to fight off an alien invasion.


http://i41.tinypic.com/autqux.png

Elementary, my dear lawn.
2013-08-05 22:05:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


EDIT: Is it possible that the mafia is that clever and manipulative? Is it possible that they actually purposefully tried to kill Rock, knowing he'd be saved? What if this is all just a scheme to cover the fact that RockSauron is, in fact, a mafioso?

Maybe I've watched too much Sherlock lately.

As with anything, I'm not 100.00% sure that it's impossible, but its highly unlikely that they would kill any mafioso on the off chance that someone they do not know is the doctor will act a certain way.

I'm just glad we were outright told what happened so there's less doubt about it.
2013-08-05 22:08:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


As with anything, I'm not 100.00% sure that it's impossible, but its highly unlikely that they would kill any mafioso on the off chance that someone they do not know is the doctor will act a certain way.

I'm just glad we were outright told what happened so there's less doubt about it.That's exactly why I didn't say it outright last game. Rock is in a powerful position now, as we're inclined to believe anything he says. The mafia has aaaaaaaided us in lifting the veil from one player's identity.
2013-08-05 22:11:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


I'm starting to suspect Dawn but then again I suspect a lot of people. Anyways I'll wait...... For now.2013-08-05 23:10:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I'm starting to suspect Dawn...
Why? I want reasons.

...but then again I suspect a lot of people.
Who? I want naaaaaames!

I can't be the only person with opinions here! I'm just the loudest
2013-08-05 23:12:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Why? I want reasons.

Dawn hasn't been as active but has been active enough to look odd. She might just be looking at who's at each others throats and trying to manipulate them behind closed doors. Also her posts haven't really been about the game as much as others have.


Who? I want naaaaaames!

In order from most-least suspicious:

FreeAim
CogMonkey
Burnvictim42.
2013-08-05 23:29:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Okay, I got really carried away with typing out my suspicions list that I then had to continuously edit one-by-one as I dug further and further into the thread. Hmph. So here's a shortened version of some of my thoughts and observations about some of the players. the reason it's not all thirteen is because I got too tired posting this all. (I've had a very busy day today. :F)

RockSauron: He's clearly innocent. Plain and simple, the mafia must have attacked him but then he was saved by the doctor. Either A, he's the doctor who saved himself or B, someone else was the doctor and thought that the mafia would try taking him out. If Ryan decided to do what a past round of LBPC Mafia did involving the doctor (where when the doctor is attacked by the mafia and heals him/herself then he or she survive but loses their doctor powers) then that would mean that option A wouldn't apply, but I'm guessing this rule wasn't added in, so it could swing either way imo. But yeah, he's innocent. ^^

CogMonkey: A past mafioso from the last game, which has caused some suspicion for the chances of him or Dawn getting the role of mafioso again. I suppose it's possible, but his clever wording after jarr's resignation makes me think he might be good. Well, along with the fact that he mentioned twice in this thread and then actually messaged Ryan about the fact that he never got a PM telling his role. I'm guessing he means it and it's not some devious tactic since he went out of his way to message Ryan about the lack of PMs, and even got a reply back! Why is this relevant? Because I don't think Ryan would forget to PM a mafioso his/her role.

butter-kicker: Hmm, I'm kind of unsure with butter-kicker. New player like Shooter and others.. there is some suspicion I'd say in some of his agreements and reasoning to vote early on, but yeah, I'm kind of unsure. Not exactly too quick or too slow to respond to the news reports and the like, or at least, that's what it seems like. He doesn't seem afraid to help the other new players or to use some deductive reasoning either and did a pretty good job defending himself when put in the spotlight with Burn, so there's that to consider.

Dragonvarsity: Unless Ryan got mixed up on who got what role, I'm pretty sure I'm innocent.

Burnvictim42: Also unsure here. Like RockSauron, Burn's been involved in a number of mafia games I believe, so he could either be a great asset to us or just try killing us all. I do appreciate the fact that he's actively participated in this thread, but experience can come with uncertainty. I will say though that the fact that he's tried using a posting pattern reminiscent of one of the last round's mafiosos, and a lot of people from the last round are here, is clever, to say the least. But really, it's actually pretty clever when you think about it. Using a similar tactic of a past mafioso to show that he's innocent, because I mean, what mafioso would do what a mafioso right before him or her just did? So he's got that tactic going for him I'll say, unless there's some serious reverse psychology involved in this, which I wouldn't necessarily put past him.

Shooter0898: Well he certainly isn't the "lurking mafioso" type, given his high activity and willingness to vote. Shooter seems nice, but some of his arguments and accusations can be flimsy sometimes, and on Day 1 when he was in a four-way tie alongside Rock, Dawn and Burn, he recommended people abstain from voting. But why do this, and why not defend himself to make sure he wouldn't get another vote and get executed? Well it's important to note that this message was after Burn told Ryan he forgot to add Dawn's vote putting Rock at two, thus in the lead, but before Ryan made the changes. Meaning that it gave him the chance to look innocent since they were all tied and before the vote changes were ever made. I mean, we know Rock is innocent now, so if Shooter told people to not vote when he was already on the chopping block but Rock was also ahead, that could cause some suspicion as it could look like him not wanting anyone to vote so he could remain safe... maybe?
2013-08-05 23:36:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Butter Kicker strikes me as odd. I vote for him2013-08-05 23:38:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Shooter0898: Well he certainly isn't the "lurking mafioso" type, given his high activity and willingness to vote. Shooter seems nice, but some of his arguments and accusations can be flimsy sometimes, and on Day 1 when he was in a four-way tie alongside Rock, Dawn and Burn, he recommended people abstain from voting. But why do this, and why not defend himself to make sure he wouldn't get another vote and get executed? Well it's important to note that this message was after Burn told Ryan he forgot to add Dawn's vote putting Rock at two, thus in the lead, but before Ryan made the changes. Meaning that it gave him the chance to look innocent since they were all tied and before the vote changes were ever made. I mean, we know Rock is innocent now, so if Shooter told people to not vote when he was already on the chopping block but Rock was also ahead, that could cause some suspicion as it could look like him not wanting anyone to vote so he could remain safe... maybe?

Dang big post. Anyways on day 1 I didn't feel as if anyone should be voted for so I asked everyone to abstain which led to the Jar incident. Also I didn't defend myself as Jedi used random.org to vote me and not because of any of my erratic voting behaviour. As for that I'm not great at making decisions and my point of view can change quickly.
2013-08-05 23:49:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Butter Kicker strikes me as odd. I vote for him

Any other reason then I am a weirdo? Anyways I vote for Shooter. His constant accusations without any reasoning has caught my attention. Is it just a way of him just trying to point the finger elsewhere. I think so. So yeah sorry shooter if you are a civilian.
2013-08-05 23:49:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


So yeah sorry shooter if you are a civilian.

Good to see your sorry for voting an innocent.
2013-08-05 23:53:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Good to see your sorry for voting an innocent.

Well I am going to need more to believe you aren't a Mafioso then just "I am a civilian"
2013-08-05 23:55:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Burnvictim42: IS CONFUSING
Here, I got some reliable sources to help you with your dilemma.
http://i.imgur.com/RVbpir4.png
http://i.imgur.com/WxZIdhr.png
Braaaaaains.
2013-08-05 23:57:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Here, I got some reliable sources to help you with your dilemma.
http://i.imgur.com/RVbpir4.png
http://i.imgur.com/WxZIdhr.png
Braaaaaains.

Well I'm sold Burn is clearly innocent.
2013-08-05 23:58:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Here, I got some reliable sources to help you with your dilemma.
http://i.imgur.com/RVbpir4.png
http://i.imgur.com/WxZIdhr.png
Braaaaaains.

Almost as impressive as the craigmond-killed-JFK 'shop.
2013-08-06 00:01:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Well crap, turns out the Cyber hunch failed. :F

http://i39.tinypic.com/wkh7xl.png

Gee, I wonder what makes you say that?
2013-08-06 00:02:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Almost as impressive as the craigmond-killed-JFK 'shop.
SHOP?!? What are you insinuating good sir? That's Honest Aaaaabe right there, he wouldn't lie, I guarantee it. Unless you Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?
2013-08-06 00:05:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


http://i39.tinypic.com/wkh7xl.png

Gee, I wonder what makes you say that?

You forgot to type in red!
2013-08-06 00:38:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


You forgot to type in red!
Plot twist: Cybersora is actually a secret role named "Zombie", where he teams up with Burn if killed and they win the game! (or at least get to kill some mafia)
2013-08-06 03:46:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Unless you Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?

Thank you so much for your wisdom Captain Caps.
2013-08-06 04:05:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Plot twist: Cybersora is actually a secret role named "Zombie", where he teams up with Burn if killed and they win the game! (or at least get to kill some mafia)

Are you the Sheriff? Are you allowed to reveal roles to everybody? No? Good, then stop ruining my plans! D:
2013-08-06 04:26:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Fellow freshman, remember, us ghosts must use red.2013-08-06 04:31:00

Author:
jarreguin001
Posts: 351


Well this round we aren't all at each others throats. YAY 2013-08-06 08:58:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I'm starting to suspect Dawn but then again I suspect a lot of people. Anyways I'll wait...... For now.

So yet again you've tried to focus attention onto a rather innactive person. Perhaps knowing that:

a) They probably won't be around too much to defend themselves, and
b) If they do turn out to be innocent, you can come back and say "oh, well they weren't active anyway, so no big loss"

I mean, I don't want you to feel like I'm singling you out in all this, but you're the only one whose behaviour is coming off as slightly odd to me.
2013-08-06 09:52:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Well this round we aren't all at each others throats. YAY

You stupid piece of **** I kill you I votez feer Shooterzzz!!! Die *****!

No, seriously, I vote for Dawn.
2013-08-06 09:56:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I still smell something fishy about Rock. When his innocence was "proved", he has repeatedly stated that he is a civilian in a way that doesn't seem quite right to me...


Let it be known I am not a mafia! Otherwise, the mafia would not try to kill me!


We all know I am not Mafia now


I clearly am not going to be targeted

We've all seen the paper, we all know Rock was saved, so why the need to keep going on about it? Rock spent the last game talking about all his experience and mafia tactics and what he'd do and whatever, so I wouldn't put it past him to find a way to engineer this situation. I don't know how he could know the doctor would save him if he was mafia. But it can't be 100% impossible, can it? What if there's a secret mafia role that lets them know who the doctor wants to save on a particular night? Or something? And then there's this:


Butter Kicker strikes me as odd. I vote for him

Now that everyone thinks Rock's a civilian, he seems to think he doesn't need to give any kind of evidence any more. If he has a decent reason for thinking Butter might be mafia, why wouldn't he share it with the rest of us? I still don't trust Rock, but I'm not going to vote for him. I will be keeping an eye on him though :kz:

Burn is still being weird. But not weird enough, yet. Shooter is a possibility - vote changing is always suspicious in my eyes and his reasoning isn't very good. But I'm not voting yet!
2013-08-06 11:19:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


But it can't be 100% impossible, can it? What if there's a secret mafia role that lets them know who the doctor wants to save on a particular night? Or something?

Ok, I've played quite a few mafia wars games, with some crazy roles, but there has never been anything like this. So lets say that this is true, there is a mafia member that KNOWS who the doctor will save on a particular night (Are we talking just 1 particular night, they can only use the role once? Or would they know every night? Because that would completely negate the point of there being a doctor in the first place), what would be the advantage in them going for Rawk if they knew he would be saved? I mean, the only reason to do this would be if he WAS mafia, they could make him appear innocent.... but can the mafia even vote to lynch one of their own?

I think you're looking into things a bit too much with Rawk.
2013-08-06 11:35:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Oh man, these last few pages have been Quote Archive gold. Anyway though, looking back, it looks like Shooter's got two votes now, butter has one, and Dawnbreaker has one herself..2013-08-06 11:46:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


I change my vote to CogMonkey.

I don't like his face.
2013-08-06 12:14:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


For crying out loud, Rawk. I was defending you a few moments ago and now you go an vote someone because you don't like their face? 2013-08-06 12:57:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


You don't need to defend me.

I am the RAWK
2013-08-06 13:02:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I don't like his face.

You can blame Dragonvarsity for that


Ok, I've played quite a few mafia wars games, with some crazy roles, but there has never been anything like this.

I've played quite a lot too and I've never seen a game where the serial killer is actually part of the mafia so you never know


I mean, the only reason to do this would be if he WAS mafia, they could make him appear innocent.... but can the mafia even vote to lynch one of their own?

I don't see why the mafia couldn't vote to kill one of their own members. Obviously the only reason to do it would be if they knew the doctor was planning to save one of them...

Still, it's just speculation. We don't have much to go on at this point
2013-08-06 13:07:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


You stupid piece of **** I kill you I votez feer Shooterzzz!!! Die *****!

I love you too.

yeah love ill show you ***** love you *****.**** oh. Didn't know the mic was still on. Ummmm well uhhhh .
2013-08-06 13:35:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I've played quite a lot too and I've never seen a game where the serial killer is actually part of the mafia so you never know


The serial killer isn't part of the mafia.... is he? There's the vigilante (civvy) and the Assassin (mafia).



I don't see why the mafia couldn't vote to kill one of their own members. Obviously the only reason to do it would be if they knew the doctor was planning to save one of them...

Still, it's just speculation. We don't have much to go on at this point

Well true, but it does kinda sound like you're sat there with your little tin foil hat, spouting off random conspiracy theories.
2013-08-06 13:37:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


The most annoying thing is that people who are suspicious really aren't mafia, but the people who post very little are. Therefore voting for them makes me feel bad, since I don't know them.

As I said earlier, I'll say again just in case: I vote for Dawnbreaker_23.
2013-08-06 15:38:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


The most annoying thing is that people who are suspicious really aren't mafia, but the people who post very little are. Therefore voting for them makes me feel bad, since I don't know them.

As I said earlier, I'll say again just in case: I vote for Dawnbreaker_23.

Why? Just because I'm inactive?
2013-08-06 15:46:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23
Posts: 568


You can blame Dragonvarsity for that

Well, to be fair, I actually purposefully drew you with a scary face, just like I did with gdn and Snipy. It was made to make each of the three remaining players each look suspicious since I had no clue who it was gonna be. Kinda your fault for bringing that killer ape face into a game of Mafia.


The serial killer isn't part of the mafia.... is he? There's the vigilante (civvy) and the Assassin (mafia).

I'm pretty sure the idea of the Vigilante and the Assassin was to replace the Serial Killer, but have two of this time. Basically, we've got one serial killer who's in cahoots with the mafiosos, while we have another who cluelessly took out Snipy. Anyway though, the notion of some complex secret role intertwined with Rock is a little far-fetched, but it could just be a little conspiracy of Cog's. Or maybe he actually has some type of secret special role? I wouldn't rule out that possibility, but yeah, it is also possible Rock's simply innocent.

P.S. What are we looking at voteswise, is it two for Shooter, one for Cog, and another for Dawn?
2013-08-06 16:21:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Any other reason then I am a weirdo? Anyways I vote for Shooter. His constant accusations without any reasoning has caught my attention. Is it just a way of him just trying to point the finger elsewhere. I think so. So yeah sorry shooter if you are a civilian.


You stupid piece of **** I kill you I votez feer Shooterzzz!!! Die *****!

No, seriously, I vote for Dawn.


I change my vote to CogMonkey.

I don't like his face.
Looks like 1 for cogmonkey, 1 for dawn, and 1 for shooter... make that 2

I don't feel like pulling the quotes right now (I will if you want me to ) but shooter's voting has been erratic to say the least. He voted for me (innocent, dur ) because of smilies and a joke bandwagon Rock started, he's made quite a few posts like "I feel I should vote for X, but i'm not going to," and has since gone on to accuse lurkers (cybersora, now dawn). I'm trusting my gut on this one, I don't think shooter is as innocent as he'd like us to believe.

Also braaaains.
2013-08-06 17:22:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Burn's logic makes sense to me.

I vote for braaaains.
2013-08-06 17:24:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I've played quite a lot too and I've never seen a game where the serial killer is actually part of the mafia so you never know
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante Hope this explaaaaains the possibility.
2013-08-06 17:27:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Looks like 1 for cogmonkey, 1 for dawn, and 1 for shooter... make that 2

Actually, I think it's three now.


As to my lurkiness, I'm trying not to vote unless I'm sure, which I realise won't happen. So I guess I vote for Shooter, his post about not being mafia was a little strange. It's not a lot I know and I'll probably change my mind but the only people I'm 100% sure of are myself and Rock.
2013-08-06 17:36:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Looks like 1 for cogmonkey, 1 for dawn, and 1 for shooter... make that 2

I don't feel like pulling the quotes right now (I will if you want me to ) but shooter's voting has been erratic to say the least. He voted for me (innocent, dur ) because of smilies and a joke bandwagon Rock started, he's made quite a few posts like "I feel I should vote for X, but i'm not going to," and has since gone on to accuse lurkers (cybersora, now dawn). I'm trusting my gut on this one, I don't think shooter is as innocent as he'd like us to believe.

Also braaaains.

Well I can't force you to change your opinion. I just hope you can live with killing an innocent. Unless of course your mafia.
2013-08-06 17:37:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Oh, good catch, thanks Where's Ryan with that report? Braaaains.

EDIT: I can live with it. I'm not mafia, but sackrifices sometimes have to be made. You're actually the center piece to this puzzle according to the vote logs. It's time to see what the truth is.
2013-08-06 17:38:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Oh, good catch, thanks Where's Ryan with that report? Braaaains.

Yes, we do indeed need more reports. Is there even a deadline for this day yet?


Well I can't force you to change your opinion. I just hope you can live with killing an innocent. Unless of course your mafia.

Not to sound too willing to help someone I'm suspicious of, but you do realize you could vote to defend yourself, right?
2013-08-06 17:42:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Oh god this is so hard2013-08-06 17:45:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Oh god this is so hard

I am not even going to make the joke....
2013-08-06 17:48:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Oh god this is so hard
giiiiiiiiiiiiiiigity.
2013-08-06 17:50:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Why? Just because I'm inactive?

No, no... It's just that I have to vote for someone. There are only few I can look at and be certain that they are not mafiosos, so this is just a random picking. No offense meant, of course. However, luckily enough for you there is someone who has risen above you in terms of suspicion. Therefore I am jumping on the bandwagon and voting for shooter.

So, I change my vote to Shooter0898.
2013-08-06 17:51:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


No, no... It's just that I have to vote for someone. There are only few I can look at and be certain that they are not mafiosos, so this is just a random picking. No offense meant, of course.
Who? I want naaaaaames!
2013-08-06 17:53:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Everyone, you really should vote for braaaaains.

Think about it! If no one had braaaaains, then no one would be mafia!
2013-08-06 17:54:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


No, no... It's just that I have to vote for someone. There are only few I can look at and be certain that they are not mafiosos, so this is just a random picking. No offense meant, of course. However, luckily enough for you there is someone who has risen above you in terms of suspicion. Therefore I am jumping on the bandwagon and voting for shooter.

So, I change my vote to Shooter0898.

Bandwagoning eh? That's not taken too kindly around here.
2013-08-06 18:19:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


No, no... It's just that I have to vote for someone. There are only few I can look at and be certain that they are not mafiosos, so this is just a random picking. No offense meant, of course. However, luckily enough for you there is someone who has risen above you in terms of suspicion. Therefore I am jumping on the bandwagon and voting for shooter.

So, I change my vote to Shooter0898.

Hmm.
2013-08-06 18:42:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Well, I am deeply sorry. I will do the best I can to win here. Also know, that there is a reason I vote for Shooter0898 here. There was some pretty heavy evidence placed on him earlier (by Burnvictim42 and as for now, I choose to go with his point of view). Granted, if Shooter0898 isn't mafia... Well, I guess people will come after me next.2013-08-06 20:02:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Well, I am deeply sorry. I will do the best I can to win here. Also know, that there is a reason I vote for Shooter0898 here. There was some pretty heavy evidence placed on him earlier (by Burnvictim42 and as for now, I choose to go with his point of view). Granted, if Shooter0898 isn't mafia... Well, I guess people will come after me next.
They should really come after someone else next. Jumping on a bandwagon isn't as suspicious as starting it.
Braaaains.
2013-08-06 20:08:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


How long left in this day anyways? I want to enjoy my last day with lots of toffee.2013-08-06 20:29:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


They should really come after someone else next. Jumping on a bandwagon isn't as suspicious as starting it.
Think about it, though: I vote for someone and say out loud that I find him suspicious. He dies and is a civilian? Well, if it was for me, I'd go for myself next.

Though I wouldn't as it's me... You know what I mean. Also, Burn, I know that you know who I am .
2013-08-06 20:31:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


They should really come after someone else next. Jumping on a bandwagon isn't as suspicious as starting it.

I disagree. Starting the bandwagon is a risky move, potentially open to more blame. It's a lot safer to jump on the bandwagon.
2013-08-06 20:36:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I disagree. Starting the bandwagon is a risky move, potentially open to more blame. It's a lot safer to jump on the bandwagon.

But... But that's what he said...
2013-08-06 20:41:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I disagree. Starting the bandwagon is a risky move, potentially open to more blame. It's a lot safer to jump on the bandwagon.That's what I mean. If I start a wagon saying Cybersora is guilty for reasons and it turns out he's civilian, it's a lot more suspicious than just jumping on later in the chain. It's exactly why I'm going to start a lot of confrontations; loudmouths gets attention.


Though I wouldn't as it's me... You know what I mean. Also, Burn, I know that you know who I am .I know nothing of the sort. Here's an xraaaaaaaay I recently had done.
http://transformedandscaled.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/empty_head.jpg
2013-08-06 20:41:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


No no no no. What I'm saying is starting a bandwagon is risky for a mafia member to do. So those who START bandwagons are normally less suspicious.

So person A says we should all vote for person B. Persons C, D, E.... etc jump on the bandwagon. Person B turns out to be innocent. Who's everyone gonna blame? Person A! A mafioso/mafiosina does not want to be person A, but rather persons C, D, E... etc. D'ya get me?
2013-08-06 20:49:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


No no no no. What I'm saying is starting a bandwagon is risky for a mafia member to do. So those who START bandwagons are normally less suspicious.

So person A says we should all vote for person B. Persons C, D, E.... etc jump on the bandwagon. Person B turns out to be innocent. Who's everyone gonna blame? Person A! A mafioso/mafiosina does not want to be person A, but rather persons C, D, E... etc. D'ya get me?
But... But that's what I said...
2013-08-06 20:50:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Let me get this straight. In my scenario, after B is killed and revealed to be innocent, who do you say should be up for vote next?2013-08-06 20:54:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Ah, I understand you now. Thanks for the explaaaaaaining 2013-08-06 20:55:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Let me get this straight. In my scenario, after B is killed and revealed to be innocent, who do you say should be up for vote next?
That is exactly the exact point and that is why I worry for myself, if we are to get this wrong. I support Burnvctim on this one, but if he is wrong and I think I'm safe because he began the bandwagon... Then I have another thing coming. It depends on how clever these civvies and mafiosoes are in the end. However, my theory? The person who voted second, in this scenario, Burnvictim.

If he however is a mafioso, then it makes the third and other people who joined after the third more suspicious. Why? If a mafioso sees that another mafioso is dying, no matter what he does, then naturally he'll go and vote for him too, so when he dies, he is not the first person to be suspected as another mafioso.Therefore it is not a huge gamble to start a bandwagon, but it's a huge gamble to vote for anyone in the first place.

Especially when people can think this far, they can mess this up even further, or if somebody is too dumb to get this all, then they can accidentally mess it up very badly. It all depends on oh-so-many things.
2013-08-06 21:04:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


That's what I mean. If I start a wagon saying Cybersora is guilty for reasons and it turns out he's civilian, it's a lot more suspicious than just jumping on later in the chain. It's exactly why I'm going to start a lot of confrontations; loudmouths gets attention.

And apparently quiet ones do as well. ;_;
2013-08-06 21:10:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


And apparently quiet ones do as well. ;_;

now you're just almonding with us.
2013-08-06 21:16:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


When will the next night be anyway? Speed up, time!2013-08-06 21:34:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Juuuuuust in case i'm silenced before tomorrow, here are a few theories about shooter:

1) When last asked who he thought was suspicious, he listed Freeaim, Cogmonkey, and me. If he's mafia, these are likely civilians.
2) Butter-Kicker and Jedi_1993 have voted for Shooter in the past, and are likely not mafia, if shooter is mafia.

That leaves these players as my main suspects (provided shooter is mafia ):
Dawnbreaker_23
Dragonvarsity
gdn001
Ali_star
xxMATEOSxx
craigmond

If shooter is not mafia, take the list and reverse itself.
2013-08-06 21:47:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Braaaaains is not going to die. I vote for Shooter.2013-08-06 21:49:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Juuuuuust in case i'm silenced before tomorrow, here are a few theories about shooter:

1) When last asked who he thought was suspicious, he listed Freeaim, Cogmonkey, and me. If he's mafia, these are likely civilians.
2) Butter-Kicker and Jedi_1993 have voted for Shooter in the past, and are likely not mafia, if shooter is mafia.

That leaves these players as my main suspects (provided shooter is mafia ):
Dawnbreaker_23
Dragonvarsity
gdn001
Ali_star
xxMATEOSxx
craigmond

If shooter is not mafia, take the list and reverse itself.

Fair enough. Shooter and FreeAim's arguments do have me keeping my eye on both of them though, but I think I'll just stay abstained from the vote this time around since it looks like Shooter's bound to die (although Ryan still hasn't told us the deadline for Day 3..) and because I don't want to get caught in some alliance/betrayal entanglement with either of them, since that's probably bound to happen with any of us no matter which side Shooter' ends up on.

Shooter still strikes me as suspicious, no denying that, but the fact that noone's really come to his aid since all votes are now towards him is a little odd in in of itself. Then again, it's also possible that the voting had reached a sort of "point of no return" and that the mafia decided it would be best to let Shooter go without too much suspicion their way. (Something similar Rock mentioned doing in a past game, I think.)
2013-08-06 22:03:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Shooter still strikes me as suspicious, no denying that, but the fact that noone's really come to his aid since all votes are now towards him is a little odd in in of itself. Then again, it's also possible that the voting had reached a sort of "point of no return" and that the mafia decided it would be best to let Shooter go without too much suspicion their way. (Something similar Rock mentioned doing in a past game, I think.)
The mafia has no reason to help him. It's a worse mark if they don't vote for a fellow mafia member, and any vote for him now is essentially bandwagoning, and worthless. Additionally, there haven't been many votes in any given day. Like i said before, I suspect a lot of the lurkers are the mafiosos.
2013-08-06 22:09:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


So, if Shooter is innocent, I'm in the firing line? I mean I put forward a random vote on day one that I revoked. This vote is my first proper vote, I just hope Shooter is indeed mafia and I survive the night.2013-08-06 22:17:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Juuuuuust in case i'm silenced before tomorrow, here are a few theories about shooter:

1) When last asked who he thought was suspicious, he listed Freeaim, Cogmonkey, and me. If he's mafia, these are likely civilians.
2) Butter-Kicker and Jedi_1993 have voted for Shooter in the past, and are likely not mafia, if shooter is mafia.

That leaves these players as my main suspects (provided shooter is mafia ):
Dawnbreaker_23
Dragonvarsity
gdn001
Ali_star
xxMATEOSxx
craigmond

If shooter is not mafia, take the list and reverse itself.

It is the reverse.

Well may as well make an attempt to save my life. I know my decisions haven't been the best...... They sucked. My reasoning has been flimsy at times but isn't it better I had reasoning rather than no reasoning. If I was mafia I wouldn't be changing my vote as often as I have. Considering the fact I hadn't really joined bandwagons (except with Burn of course) I had really my own reasoning with a few references to others. I also hadn't explained enough with some of the reasoning and also the reason I choose to not vote Burn even though I wanted too was because I felt as if I had nothing to back it up. If you keep your votes for me and when day time comes you find out I'm innocent it's game over for you. (Except Rock of course). Please think about this and don't just vote for me since others are already doing so.

Since I'm pretty much screwed I vote FreeAim for the same flimsy reasons I stand by from the previous day and for bandwagoning.
2013-08-06 22:25:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


It is the reverse.

Well may as well make an attempt to save my life. I know my decisions haven't been the best...... They sucked. My reasoning has been flimsy at times but isn't it better I had reasoning rather than no reasoning. If I was mafia I wouldn't be changing my vote as often as I have. Considering the fact I hadn't really joined bandwagons (except with Burn of course) I had really my own reasoning with a few references to others. I also hadn't explained enough with some of the reasoning and also the reason I choose to not vote Burn even though I wanted too was because I felt as if I had nothing to back it up. If you keep your votes for me and when day time comes you find out I'm innocent it's game over for you. (Except Rock of course). Please think about this and don't just vote for me since others are already doing so.

Since I'm pretty much screwed I vote FreeAim for the same flimsy reasons I stand by from the previous day and for bandwagoning.

We shall see, soon enough.
2013-08-06 22:37:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


We shall see, soon enough.
or long enough. Donde estaaaaaaa Ryan?
2013-08-06 22:41:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Hey, it's me! Sorry about recent inactivity, I just got back from vacation. The day ends on 8/8/13 at 5:00 EST.2013-08-06 23:00:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


Hey, it's me! Sorry about recent inactivity, I just got back from vacation. The day ends on 8/8/13 at 5:00 EST. Welcome back, hope you enjoyed your vacation

Lots of time left, okay. Shooter, hit me with your best shot, tell me why I shouldn't vote for you, prove someone else more threatening. You have 2 daaaaaays...
2013-08-06 23:07:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Welcome back, hope you enjoyed your vacation

Lots of time left, okay. Shooter, hit me with your best shot, tell me why I shouldn't vote for you, prove someone else more threatening. You have 2 daaaaaays...

I gave you a paragraph. Then I thought of something. With most people being suspicious of me the mafia would have a perfect scapegoat for today and can stay on the sidelines while the civilians kill each other. The mafia would then be free to manipulate events as they see fit with not too many problems. Then again there's a chance that most people vote for me and then decide to kill of the person that started the voting bandwagon or even joined late. The mafia could have some vote and others abstain to look innocent and normal.

In short if I die you will be one of the people on the chopping block Burn. Also what else other than my voting patterns made you go for me. Surely there is a better reason than that. Basically I'm being used as a scapegoat and the mafia are looking innocent because they're either on the sidelines or clinging on to the same logic. If I was any of the people who has joined the bandwagon to avoid looking suspicious I would change. NOW! Take a look at everything I've admitted that my voting is flimsy but I stand by my logic as I didn't blindly follow others. Changing will make you look suspicious but you would be doing the right thing.

Please don't lose another civilian. Change your votes.
2013-08-06 23:20:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I will be active again by the end of the week, sorry about the inactivity, but I am here.2013-08-06 23:22:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Please don't lose another civilian. Change your votes.
Still not convinced. Closer though.

Re: my head on the chopping block. That's exactly where I want it. I know it's only a matter of time before the mafia kills me, so i'm making use of what time I have. I'm setting traps, blowing smoke, putting plans in motion. I know there are more than a few canny civilians who will take over when I die (and shropshirelass ), and the mafia knows i'm a wild card - if they play their hand right I may be of use in their crusade, but that all turns sour when I die
2013-08-06 23:52:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Still not convinced. Closer though.

Re: my head on the chopping block. That's exactly where I want it. I know it's only a matter of time before the mafia kills me, so i'm making use of what time I have. I'm setting traps, blowing smoke, putting plans in motion. I know there are more than a few canny civilians who will take over when I die (and shropshirelass ), and the mafia knows i'm a wild card - if they play their hand right I may be of use in their crusade, but that all turns sour when I die

Yet I have the feeling if someone was too stop voting for me they would almost instantly be set upon. It's not just your head that will be gone. I'm also going to say this as the mafia in this game are relatively quick to vote at night. So the more active members must be involved. So say the majority of the mafia vote for me but 1 or 2 don't. They then manipulate civilians to vote. When night falls and I'm condemned to die the mafia then kill off a civilian/s that voted with them so it looks like the inactives are to blame. As I said I'm being used as a scapegoat and the people who are having second thoughts are unable to cancel their vote because they will be tagged as being suspicious. Burn I also asked anything else I have done to make my self suspicious? You haven't answered.
2013-08-07 00:06:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


but that all turns sour when I die

...for the second time.
2013-08-07 00:10:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Burn I also asked anything else I have done to make my self suspicious? You haven't answered.
Cataloging my suspicions requires a giganto post, and I don't have time for it right now. If you want to get a jump start on it, my suspicions re: you come from posts 198, 204, 237, 253, 285, 292, and 294. It's hard to pin anything on lurkers, and you're on the top of the list for active people at the moment.

Sorry I couldn't get anyone access to my spreadsheet =/ Google docs wouldn't let me import the pictures easily, and I didn't really want to cut all the images again.
2013-08-07 00:20:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


The ever-so-requested L.A.M.E report:

L.A.M.E REPORT
The next folks up to die by Losers, Alphabets, Monkeys, or Elephants are...

Shooter0898 (4): butter-kicker, Burnvictim42, Jedi_1993, FreeAim
FreeAim (1): Shooter0898
CogMonkey (1): RockSauron

Players who have yet to vote: Dawnbreaker_23, Dragonvarsity, gdn001, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond, Jedi_1993

The day will end on August 2nd at 5:00 PM EST.
2013-08-07 05:38:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


cybersoraaaaaaaaa gets to vote? 2013-08-07 06:48:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Please don't lose another civilian. Change your votes.

We won't be going to lose another civilian. When we have someone as suspicious as you at our gunpoint, there is little you can do to talk yourself out of it. Evidence on you so far outweighs evidence on anyone else ten to one. If we were to change our votes now, we would all bite the dust before our feet touched the ground.

And why is it so important to get you now? Not because there will be major losses if we won't, but because of the possible advantage we may gain. We can basically paragraph this entire game out by simply getting to know whether you're a mafioso or not. It all depends, in the end, on your identity and as for now, I for one have no reason to believe you're not a mafioso. Why? Your voting history in this game in addition to your current "suspicion" on me is bad enough, but trying to get us change our votes by manipulating us in such way? You've played your hand out and you're left with nothing but fingers pointing at your direction. It's game over, for you.

EDIT: In addition, if anyone was to change votes now, they would instantly rise on top of everyone's list of suspicious people. Just saying. Think about it, if you don't get it.
2013-08-07 08:36:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Players who have yet to vote: CyberSora, Dawnbreaker_23, Dragonvarsity, gdn001, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond, Jedi_1993

Did someone kill me while I wasn't looking?

Like I said before, I do find Shooter's voting a bit dodgy but he did say he lacks experience and I haven't seen much else to convince me that he's mafia. FreeAim in particular is talking as though there has been concrete evidence against Shooter, but I'm pretty sure there hasn't. I was thinking about voting for Shooter but FreeAim's accusations stand out to me. How can he be so certain? This also sounds pretty suspicious to me:


In addition, if anyone was to change votes now, they would instantly rise on top of everyone's list of suspicious people.

Now that it looks like Shooter is dead, FreeAim is basically saying "anyone who changes their vote is mafia" which sounds to me as if he wants to make sure Shooter dies Plus the fact that FreeAim seems to be siding with Burn, who is still acting weirdly...I've just been through the 7 posts of Shooter's he mentioned and I really don't see that much in the way of suspicious activity apart from a bit of indecisiveness.

At the moment I'm thinking that Shooter is just an inexperienced civilian and that FreeAim and/or Burn is/are mafia using Shooter's inexperience against him.

So I vote for FreeAim.
2013-08-07 09:47:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


At the moment I'm thinking that Shooter is just an inexperienced civilian and that FreeAim and/or Burn is/are mafia using Shooter's inexperience against him.

So I vote for FreeAim.
So just in case I am mafia and am therefore using Shooter's inexperience against him, you choose to take his side because you see him as the weaker side? Admirable, yet it's suspicious. Shooter's inexperience is exactly what has led me to believe he is mafia. If I am as intelligent as you think, don't you think I know how to keep people from voting me? I could have chosen to stay in the shadows as a lurker-civilian, yet I chose to play the game. I know this well enough and if Shooter turns out to be mafia, then I can be 100% certain you are as well. Or is it that simple?

However, in case I didn't make myself clear, I'd like to say this: I never said that those who don't vote for Shooter are mafia. Think about it, though: Four people vote for Shooter and as soon as he claims the people voting for him are wrong, if someone was to cease voting him, would that not be odd? Granted, I could claim the people voting for me are wrong as well and I could do the best I can to manipulate the people into believing I am not mafia, which is exactly what Shooter is doing. But that is not the game I choose to participate in, for I am playing a game of chance.

The civilians won't lose even if Shooter was voted out of town and he is a civilian. Not yet, however. Yet, if he was part of the mafia, we could be able to break the entire mafia based on his climsy playing in the past. It would be rather simple, actually. I for one have 95% trust in Burnvictim and RockSauron at the moment and as they not only show clever thinking and intelligent deduction, but they also show their abilities at making accusation, the best way for me to play is to play the same game. I am taking a big risk, for if Shooter turns out to be a civilian, then I'm as good as dead. Then again, if you kill me and discover that I am a civilian, he is as good as dead anyway. So in short, Shooter will die during the next night or the night after that, only it is up to you to decide whether I'll die with him. With Burn and Sauron at their side, civilians would still stand a mighty chance against the mafia, even if I am gone.

There is no reason for you to trust me, this I understand. Yet, what reason do you have to trust Shooter? Let me answer that for you: the same exact reason you have to trust me. Therefore, either of us can die this night and I suspect that if Shooter is voted out, then it can be me who is killed by mafia, IF and only if Shooter turns out to be mafia.

In case of an assassin/mafia/vigilante, however, here is my list of suspicious people, based on simple thinking:

People I am almost certain are mafiosoes:
Shooter, CogMonkey.

This will be further proved by my death, so in case I die, they are easy targets for the next day. If we are lucky, we get both of them with one shot. CogMonkey is a curious case however, considering that his activity here is very little. He may know something I don't and that threatens me hugely. He is, in fact the person I most fear in this game at the moment due to this, because of how little he is giving away and if he was really that clever and mafia, he'd know better than to vote for me. If he however knows I am this clever, he might still be mafia, which is the scary thing about him: he is either very, very intelligent member of mafia or just making climsy accusations in the same way as Shooter did earlier.

As for my evidence against Shooter? He is voting for me. That's my evidence and that will be your evidence tomorrow, if I die.

EDIT: I got it! Shooter may not be mafia after all. I find CogMonkey far more suspicious. If Shooter isn't mafia, CogMonkey has a perfect reason to vote for me, since Shooter does as well. If Shooter dies and is a civilian, people will come after me, which makes CogMonkey not suspected since he voted for me. How could CogMonkey know this? Only if he is intelligent. Intelligent and mafia. Therefore I would join to vote CogMonkey as well, but I don't want to die and therefore I must keep voting for Shooter. However, if Shooter was to change his vote to CogMonkey, I would as well, since I wouldn't need to vote him to stay alive. I don't know, just bringing it out there...
2013-08-07 10:58:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Last time I managed to get right to the end of the game before getting involved in any drama, but I guess it'll make things more interesting if I get started early on this time


So just in case I am mafia and am therefore using Shooter's inexperience against him, you choose to take his side because you see him as the weaker side? Admirable, yet it's suspicious. Shooter's inexperience is exactly what has led me to believe he is mafia. If I am as intelligent as you think, don't you think I know how to keep people from voting me? I could have chosen to stay in the shadows as a lurker-civilian, yet I chose to play the game. I know this well enough and if Shooter turns out to be mafia, then I can be 100% certain you are as well. Or is it that simple?

You can't really use "I've been active" as proof that you're not mafia, Shooter has been active too. And anyway, Cyber was inactive and look what happened to him. If you'd been lurking you could have easily been voted out straight away. And how could you possibly be 100% certain about me even if Shooter is mafia? I've explained why I haven't voted for him. If Shooter is mafia and you decide to vote me out next time, I'll be revealed as a civilian and by your logic that would make you 100% mafia, surely?


However, in case I didn't make myself clear, I'd like to say this: I never said that those who don't vote for Shooter are mafia. Think about it, though: Four people vote for Shooter and as soon as he claims the people voting for him are wrong, if someone was to cease voting him, would that not be odd? Granted, I could claim the people voting for me are wrong as well and I could do the best I can to manipulate the people into believing I am not mafia, which is exactly what Shooter is doing. But that is not the game I choose to participate in, for I am playing a game of chance.

If people removed their votes for Shooter that wouldn't be odd at all, since there is still no real evidence against him. What's odd is that you seem so convinced that he is mafia and that you are trying to prevent anyone from changing their vote.


The civilians won't lose even if Shooter was voted out of town and he is a civilian. Not yet, however. Yet, if he was part of the mafia, we could be able to break the entire mafia based on his climsy playing in the past. It would be rather simple, actually. I for one have 95% trust in Burnvictim and RockSauron at the moment and as they not only show clever thinking and intelligent deduction, but they also show their abilities at making accusation, the best way for me to play is to play the same game. I am taking a big risk, for if Shooter turns out to be a civilian, then I'm as good as dead. Then again, if you kill me and discover that I am a civilian, he is as good as dead anyway. So in short, Shooter will die during the next night or the night after that, only it is up to you to decide whether I'll die with him. With Burn and Sauron at their side, civilians would still stand a mighty chance against the mafia, even if I am gone.

Yes, if Shooter is revealed as a civilian then obviously you'll look more suspicious, but if you die and are revealed as a civilian it still won't be any evidence against Shooter. Ignoring that fact that you could be the Don, if you are revealed as a civilian then personally I'd think Burn is the most suspicious. You admit you're deliberately siding with him and Rock so you could just be a civilian being fooled by the mafia.


There is no reason for you to trust me, this I understand. Yet, what reason do you have to trust Shooter? Let me answer that for you: the same exact reason you have to trust me. Therefore, either of us can die this night and I suspect that if Shooter is voted out, then it can be me who is killed by mafia, IF and only if Shooter turns out to be mafia.

I have no reason to trust either of you, true. But I have more of a reason to not trust you. There really hasn't been anywhere near as much suspicious activity from Shooter as you claim there has. You are the one trying to make sure he dies tonight and at this point in the game that's very strange behavior.


In case of an assassin/mafia/vigilante, however, here is my list of suspicious people, based on simple thinking:

People I am almost certain are mafiosoes:
Shooter, CogMonkey.

So basically, every time someone votes for you, you accuse them without any evidence?


This will be further proved by my death, so in case I die, they are easy targets for the next day. If we are lucky, we get both of them with one shot. CogMonkey is a curious case however, considering that his activity here is very little. He may know something I don't and that threatens me hugely. He is, in fact the person I most fear in this game at the moment due to this, because of how little he is giving away and if he was really that clever and mafia, he'd know better than to vote for me. If he however knows I am this clever, he might still be mafia, which is the scary thing about him: he is either very, very intelligent member of mafia or just making climsy accusations in the same way as Shooter did earlier.

There's no clever mafia stuff going on here. I feel like I'm making a pretty solid accusation. And your death won't prove anything if you're revealed as a civilian, like I said before, you could be the Don, or just a civilian jumping on the mafia's bandwagon.


As for my evidence against Shooter? He is voting for me. That's my evidence and that will be your evidence tomorrow, if I die.

Just confirming that the only reason you have for thinking Shooter is mafia is that he voted for you...what happened to the evidence that "so far outweighs evidence on anyone else ten to one"?


EDIT: I got it! Shooter may not be mafia after all. I find CogMonkey far more suspicious. If Shooter isn't mafia, CogMonkey has a perfect reason to vote for me, since Shooter does as well. If Shooter dies and is a civilian, people will come after me, which makes CogMonkey not suspected since he voted for me. How could CogMonkey know this? Only if he is intelligent. Intelligent and mafia. Therefore I would join to vote CogMonkey as well, but I don't want to die and therefore I must keep voting for Shooter. However, if Shooter was to change his vote to CogMonkey, I would as well, since I wouldn't need to vote him to stay alive. I don't know, just bringing it out there...

So now that I've pointed out that what you're doing makes no sense and that your arguments are terrible, you're trying to get friendly with Shooter again? Apart from his voting for you, the only reason I can think of for Shooter being suspicious is that he keeps changing his votes. So vote for me, if you want. But IMO that wll just make you look more suspicious.
2013-08-07 12:17:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


The situation for civilians is, that we can risk a single life loss among us. And only that one life loss. However,if you claim there is nothing that would stand against you or Shooter, you are dead wrong. I have at least the same amount of reasoning behind my vote that has went to Shooter as you have against me, which is curious, considering that I. Am not. Mafioso. What reason did you have to vote me, based on my earlier comments? The fact that I try to actively spot a mafioso? Are you completely forgetting that I voted Shooter before he voted me? That is not why I voted him, which is not why I would vote you either. If RockSauron believes you're mafia, then so do I.

I am not trying to get "friendly" with Shooter. Seems to me that you're not as clever as I had thought you were.

By the way, why do I get such hostility for merely role-playing in this game? I thought it was the point here. Sure, I do my best to actively win, but if coming up with theories is not why this game is... Then I don't know what fun there is to this game. CogMonkey, how have I insulted you? You are not fun to play with at all. It's not only here, though, it's as if you're just hostile towards me on LBPC in general.

Granted, I stand behind all my words. I still vote or CogMonkey as soon as I can be certain it won't cause me to be voted out.
2013-08-07 12:48:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I've explained my reason for voting for you. You are voting for Shooter, which is fair enough, but you are claiming that there is some sort of concrete 100% incriminating evidence against him, which there clearly isn't. I've already said I was going to vote for Shooter until you started accusing him so harshly without any actual evidence. And now you appear to be doing the same to me just because I've questioned your reasoning.


By the way, why do I get such hostility for merely role-playing in this game? I thought it was the point here. Sure, I do my best to actively win, but if coming up with theories is not why this game is... Then I don't know what fun there is to this game. CogMonkey, how have I insulted you? You are not fun to play with at all. It's not only here, though, it's as if you're just hostile towards me on LBPC in general.

I don't understand any of this. I've been coming up with theories and I'm not attacking you for doing the same. What were my posts about Rock if not coming up with theories? Or wondering whether you might just be a civilian jumping on the bandwagon? And I never said anything about you insulting me, I have no idea what you're talking about, and I have no idea what you mean about the hostility either, but it's not relevant to the game so I'm going to ignore it.
2013-08-07 13:39:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


http://mgoblog.com/sites/mgoblog.com/files/mgoupload/DearDiaryResignsfortheGoodoftheNation_AB67/georgeeatingpopcorn.gif2013-08-07 13:44:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lols30rUm71qeiwtao1_500.gif2013-08-07 14:06:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


EDIT: I got it! Shooter may not be mafia after all. I find CogMonkey far more suspicious. If Shooter isn't mafia, CogMonkey has a perfect reason to vote for me, since Shooter does as well. If Shooter dies and is a civilian, people will come after me, which makes CogMonkey not suspected since he voted for me. How could CogMonkey know this? Only if he is intelligent. Intelligent and mafia. Therefore I would join to vote CogMonkey as well, but I don't want to die and therefore I must keep voting for Shooter. However, if Shooter was to change his vote to CogMonkey, I would as well, since I wouldn't need to vote him to stay alive. I don't know, just bringing it out there...

So my strange voting history has led to me being suspected yet you are now doing something that apparently makes me mafia. You want to vote for Cog yet you aren't going to. You had a Problem with me wanting to vote for Burn but I didn't because I had no evidence. You also said how I was as good as dead and that I was pretty much screwed yet there is no other evidence against me. You also trust Burn and Rock 95% yet they could be just manipulating you as a pawn. Then after saying how I'm dead an how I'm supposedly mafia you then want me to vote for Cog the only person who has came to my aid. Why? So that can be added to my list of erratic voting behaviour or that you know he's innocent and you are hoping if I help you vote for him then you can use me as a scapegoat meaning you have taken care of two civilians.

Answer me this. Why the sudden change in heart?
2013-08-07 14:55:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So my strange voting history has led to me being suspected yet you are now doing something that apparently makes me mafia. You want to vote for Cog yet you aren't going to. You had a Problem with me wanting to vote for Burn but I didn't because I had no evidence. You also said how I was as good as dead and that I was pretty much screwed yet there is no other evidence against me. You also trust Burn and Rock 95% yet they could be just manipulating you as a pawn. Then after saying how I'm dead an how I'm supposedly mafia you then want me to vote for Cog the only person who has came to my aid. Why? So that can be added to my list of erratic voting behaviour or that you know he's innocent and you are hoping if I help you vote for him then you can use me as a scapegoat meaning you have taken care of two civilians.

Answer me this. Why the sudden change in heart?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4991637864317906&pid=1.7

Oh snap!
2013-08-07 15:00:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


So my strange voting history has led to me being suspected yet you are now doing something that apparently makes me mafia. You want to vote for Cog yet you aren't going to. You had a Problem with me wanting to vote for Burn but I didn't because I had no evidence. You also said how I was as good as dead and that I was pretty much screwed yet there is no other evidence against me. You also trust Burn and Rock 95% yet they could be just manipulating you as a pawn. Then after saying how I'm dead an how I'm supposedly mafia you then want me to vote for Cog the only person who has came to my aid. Why? So that can be added to my list of erratic voting behaviour or that you know he's innocent and you are hoping if I help you vote for him then you can use me as a scapegoat meaning you have taken care of two civilians.

Answer me this. Why the sudden change in heart?

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/550/740/2f9.jpg
2013-08-07 15:45:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/550/740/2f9.jpg

Yet I still think my efforts will be in vain as people's minds seem set.

Also Ryan put in the last report the day ends 2nd August. Have we travelled back in time?
2013-08-07 16:12:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


so... many.... delicious... posts... http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq191/maikelito/HomerDrool.png

Good to see you're all using your braaaaaainns. Since shooter and Freeaim are both in the spotlight, they both deserve some investigation. Fellow citizens, who gets the first mega post?
2013-08-07 17:04:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


so... many.... delicious... posts... http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq191/maikelito/HomerDrool.png

Good to see you're all using your braaaaaainns. Since shooter and Freeaim are both in the spotlight, they both deserve some investigation. Fellow citizens, who gets the first mega post?

Go ahead Burn. You know you want too.
2013-08-07 17:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Hmm, these debates have been too good not to skip out on. Still gonna look over each person's posts though before making an informed decision. So deadline's tomorrow, then?2013-08-07 17:19:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Go ahead Burn. You know you want too.
Not sure that's a selection there I'll be compiling info for both of you today, the question is merely who gets their case posted first.
2013-08-07 17:20:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Not sure that's a selection there I'll be compiling info for both of you today, the question is merely who gets their case posted first.

Let random.org decide.
2013-08-07 17:25:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


random.org says shooter first, ask questions of Freeaim later.

Giganto post loading...
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2013-08-07 17:27:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


random.org says shooter first, ask questions of Freeaim later.

I see what you did there.
2013-08-07 17:30:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Just a quick question, is there a don in this game? I don't recall seeing it listed.2013-08-07 18:21:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


The case for shooter starts waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back at the beginning of day 2.... that was yesterday? Feels like a lifetime ago. ANYWAYS, it starts with this post:

I don't want to appear as if I'm joining in the bandwagon but for me Burn is really acting suspicious therefore I vote for him. Burns's use of smilies really caught my attention the most not to mention the way he wished me a happy birthday. Rock also made the point that he would be a target for the mafia at the beginning of the game yet he hasn't had that much attention on him up until now.

Sorry Burn.Shooter joins a bandwagon, against a known civilian... for intriguing reasoning. He does have somewhat of a point. In hindsight, I see how "hope you don't die " could be misconstrued, but in all honestly the probability of dying in this crazy town is pretty high. (see last game ) This could be mafia bandwagoning, or it could be a genuine rookie mistake. Personally, I don't think an out of game message is really enough to warrant a vote, but my eccentric manner may have been. There is a method to my madness, but it may not have been clear enough at this point.

MY VERDICT: Probably innocent, suspicious.

For me at least burn you are quite suspicious. The birthday message did include you saying "hope you don't die " this kind of brought me to suspect you. The smile use is rather odd and that could just be you but I'm not taking chances. Your experience would often lead to you being targeted. To be honest I'm surprised Ali_Star hasn't had that much attention fixed on him. Overanalysis well I think you should keep that up (as well as the zombie act).At this point I'd placed in a giganto post defending myself, and people were realizing their mistakes. He defends his vote, but then focuses attention on Ali_Star, and attempts to make peace with me. Drawing attention to Ali_Star is an odd choice if he believes Ali_Star will help him win the day. Throwing someone under the bus as you run away with an apology and a smile is quite odd indeed.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent, suspicious.

I have again looked over things again and I feel as if I should vote for burn but it is the early game so I withdraw my vote for burn.

I feel as if I should vote for him but there doesn't seem to be enough evidence for a conviction and maybe I was a bit hasty in voting for him.
He withdraws his vote, and Ali_Star calls him out on "feeling he should vote, but he isn't voting." This is a bit of doubletalk and bandwagoning in a sense. He is not calling me out directly, as popular opinion has subsided, but he is indicating that I'm still suspicious after my mega post.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent, suspicious.

You have just made yourself the person I most suspect I'll leave Burn for now but I now vote for FreeAim he clearly has some role wether good or bad is unknown but I expect he is either the vigilante or the assassin.FreeAim's post consisted of "I'm innocent" nonsense. This triggers a red flag in shooter, and sends him on the warpath for FreeAim. Suspicious in itself, but then he mentions that he thinks FreeAim has a role, and he suspects the Vigilante or Assassin. Let me repeat this: he votes on FreeAim in this case, because he suspects FreeAim has a role, and because he is 50% sure FreeAim's role is mafia aligned.

MY VERDICT: Suspicious.

Dawn hasn't been as active but has been active enough to look odd. She might just be looking at who's at each others throats and trying to manipulate them behind closed doors. Also her posts haven't really been about the game as much as others have.

In order from most-least suspicious:

FreeAim
CogMonkey
Burnvictim42.I asked for reasoning about dawn, and who shooter thinks is suspicious. Accusing a lurker doesn't really have much weight, his reasoning is all theory. The suspicion list strikes me as odd though. I know i'm crazy, but innocent. I suspect CogMonkey of being innocent... FreeAim is another question, but the list is a launching point. Over the course of the game, several votes have been made for shooter, and his list of suspicions will help me reduce the potential mafia list by half. It's time to shake things up a bit, and I accuse shooter.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent,Suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

It is the reverse.

Well may as well make an attempt to save my life. I know my decisions haven't been the best...... They sucked. My reasoning has been flimsy at times but isn't it better I had reasoning rather than no reasoning. If I was mafia I wouldn't be changing my vote as often as I have. Considering the fact I hadn't really joined bandwagons (except with Burn of course) I had really my own reasoning with a few references to others. I also hadn't explained enough with some of the reasoning and also the reason I choose to not vote Burn even though I wanted too was because I felt as if I had nothing to back it up. If you keep your votes for me and when day time comes you find out I'm innocent it's game over for you. (Except Rock of course). Please think about this and don't just vote for me since others are already doing so.

Since I'm pretty much screwed I vote FreeAim for the same flimsy reasons I stand by from the previous day and for bandwagoning.
His first appeal. His explanations are reasonable, but then he throws FreeAim under the bus. He acknowledges that his reasoning is flimsy, and my support for FreeAim is not high. No new evidence is shown to sway me.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent, suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

I gave you a paragraph. Then I thought of something. With most people being suspicious of me the mafia would have a perfect scapegoat for today and can stay on the sidelines while the civilians kill each other. The mafia would then be free to manipulate events as they see fit with not too many problems. Then again there's a chance that most people vote for me and then decide to kill of the person that started the voting bandwagon or even joined late. The mafia could have some vote and others abstain to look innocent and normal.

In short if I die you will be one of the people on the chopping block Burn. Also what else other than my voting patterns made you go for me. Surely there is a better reason than that. Basically I'm being used as a scapegoat and the mafia are looking innocent because they're either on the sidelines or clinging on to the same logic. If I was any of the people who has joined the bandwagon to avoid looking suspicious I would change. NOW! Take a look at everything I've admitted that my voting is flimsy but I stand by my logic as I didn't blindly follow others. Changing will make you look suspicious but you would be doing the right thing.

Please don't lose another civilian. Change your votes.There's a lot of theory, not a lot of meat to this post. He makes a threat appeal to people on the sidelines. Change your vote, or find yourself on the block. If he's a mafioso, this is an empty threat. If he's a civilian, he has a point, but we all know the price of voting.

MY VERDICT: Suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

So my strange voting history has led to me being suspected yet you are now doing something that apparently makes me mafia. You want to vote for Cog yet you aren't going to. You had a Problem with me wanting to vote for Burn but I didn't because I had no evidence. You also said how I was as good as dead and that I was pretty much screwed yet there is no other evidence against me. You also trust Burn and Rock 95% yet they could be just manipulating you as a pawn. Then after saying how I'm dead an how I'm supposedly mafia you then want me to vote for Cog the only person who has came to my aid. Why? So that can be added to my list of erratic voting behaviour or that you know he's innocent and you are hoping if I help you vote for him then you can use me as a scapegoat meaning you have taken care of two civilians.

Answer me this. Why the sudden change in heart?
His points here are excellent. It seems he's had a change of heart, and no longer thinks Cog is suspicious, a verdict I currently support. Critical reasoning is an important part of the human experience, you should never stop questioning - even when you think they're innocent. He took up the gauntlet I threw down, and responded in force, giving me an excuse to investigate Free-Aim publicly this round. I take his threat peg down a notch, but I need to examine FreeAim before making a final decision.

CURRENT VERDICT: Possibly innocent, Suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

TL;DR: HAHAHAHA NOPE YOU HAVE TO READ IT ALL
2013-08-07 18:22:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


So my strange voting history has led to me being suspected yet you are now doing something that apparently makes me mafia. You want to vote for Cog yet you aren't going to. You had a Problem with me wanting to vote for Burn but I didn't because I had no evidence. You also said how I was as good as dead and that I was pretty much screwed yet there is no other evidence against me. You also trust Burn and Rock 95% yet they could be just manipulating you as a pawn. Then after saying how I'm dead an how I'm supposedly mafia you then want me to vote for Cog the only person who has came to my aid. Why? So that can be added to my list of erratic voting behaviour or that you know he's innocent and you are hoping if I help you vote for him then you can use me as a scapegoat meaning you have taken care of two civilians.

Answer me this. Why the sudden change in heart?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/supa-hot-fire.gif
2013-08-07 18:26:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I love the use of reaction giiiiifs in this thread so much <32013-08-07 18:29:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Burn is the left one.

Everyone else is the right one.

http://www.twistappel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/bert-and-ernie-reaction.gif
2013-08-07 18:35:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


The case for shooter starts waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back at the beginning of day 2.... that was yesterday? Feels like a lifetime ago. ANYWAYS, it starts with this post:
Shooter joins a bandwagon, against a known civilian... for intriguing reasoning. He does have somewhat of a point. In hindsight, I see how "hope you don't die " could be misconstrued, but in all honestly the probability of dying in this crazy town is pretty high. (see last game ) This could be mafia bandwagoning, or it could be a genuine rookie mistake. Personally, I don't think an out of game message is really enough to warrant a vote, but my eccentric manner may have been. There is a method to my madness, but it may not have been clear enough at this point.

MY VERDICT: Probably innocent, suspicious.
At this point I'd placed in a giganto post defending myself, and people were realizing their mistakes. He defends his vote, but then focuses attention on Ali_Star, and attempts to make peace with me. Drawing attention to Ali_Star is an odd choice if he believes Ali_Star will help him win the day. Throwing someone under the bus as you run away with an apology and a smile is quite odd indeed.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent, suspicious.


He withdraws his vote, and Ali_Star calls him out on "feeling he should vote, but he isn't voting." This is a bit of doubletalk and bandwagoning in a sense. He is not calling me out directly, as popular opinion has subsided, but he is indicating that I'm still suspicious after my mega post.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent, suspicious.
FreeAim's post consisted of "I'm innocent" nonsense. This triggers a red flag in shooter, and sends him on the warpath for FreeAim. Suspicious in itself, but then he mentions that he thinks FreeAim has a role, and he suspects the Vigilante or Assassin. Let me repeat this: he votes on FreeAim in this case, because he suspects FreeAim has a role, and because he is 50% sure FreeAim's role is mafia aligned.

MY VERDICT: Suspicious.
I asked for reasoning about dawn, and who shooter thinks is suspicious. Accusing a lurker doesn't really have much weight, his reasoning is all theory. The suspicion list strikes me as odd though. I know i'm crazy, but innocent. I suspect CogMonkey of being innocent... FreeAim is another question, but the list is a launching point. Over the course of the game, several votes have been made for shooter, and his list of suspicions will help me reduce the potential mafia list by half. It's time to shake things up a bit, and I accuse shooter.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent,Suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

His first appeal. His explanations are reasonable, but then he throws FreeAim under the bus. He acknowledges that his reasoning is flimsy, and my support for FreeAim is not high. No new evidence is shown to sway me.

MY VERDICT: Possibly innocent, suspicious. Key to a puzzle.
There's a lot of theory, not a lot of meat to this post. He makes a threat appeal to people on the sidelines. Change your vote, or find yourself on the block. If he's a mafioso, this is an empty threat. If he's a civilian, he has a point, but we all know the price of voting.

MY VERDICT: Suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

His points here are excellent. It seems he's had a change of heart, and no longer thinks Cog is suspicious, a verdict I currently support. Critical reasoning is an important part of the human experience, you should never stop questioning - even when you think they're innocent. He took up the gauntlet I threw down, and responded in force, giving me an excuse to investigate Free-Aim publicly this round. I take his threat peg down a notch, but I need to examine FreeAim before making a final decision.

CURRENT VERDICT: Possibly innocent, Suspicious. Key to a puzzle.

TL;DR: HAHAHAHA NOPE YOU HAVE TO READ IT ALL

I read it all and great points I have to say. You have acknowledged that I have admitted my reasons for voting are odd. I had been making up tons of theory on day 2 so some ideas are bound to seem stupid but nothing really more than voting habits make me suspicious.
2013-08-07 18:57:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I was going to write stuff here, but I believe strongly this gif explains my situation better than a thousand words:

http://www.twistappel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/beard-slap.gif
I will not change my vote though. I don't feel good about it, since Shooter obviously wants to stay in this game, but I still suspect he's a mafioso.
2013-08-07 19:11:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


http://media.tumblr.com/8a79b8403f33b41a1a4ba04e759c7fd9/tumblr_inline_mqitlwLkNR1qz4rgp.gif
http://media.tumblr.com/4e1057d8dc338128dd4abae8939ca1e1/tumblr_inline_mqitmu17BF1qz4rgp.gif
2013-08-07 19:12:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Interesting... I'll add that to my post collection later. Expect FreeAim's post in a couple hours, writing this stuff is draaaaaaaining.2013-08-07 19:14:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Interesting... I'll add that to my post collection later. Expect FreeAim's post in a couple hours, writing this stuff is draaaaaaaining.

http://www.twistappel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/takei-spin.gif

Oh, don't mind me, just, um, dancing. Looking forward to that!
2013-08-07 19:32:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I've been going over FreeAim's quotes for a while now, mulling it over in my braaaaain. I'm not sure quite what role he is playing in this little drama, and i'm troubled by the questions that have been raised. So before I decide which quotes to use and post my analysis, I'll ask him two questions:

1) Is shooter at the top of your short list of suspicion? If he isn't, who warrants a search instead?

2) Why did you seek the spotlight?
2013-08-07 21:13:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


I've been going over FreeAim's quotes for a while now, mulling it over in my braaaaain. I'm not sure quite what role he is playing in this little drama, and i'm troubled by the questions that have been raised. So before I decide which quotes to use and post my analysis, I'll ask him two questions:

1) Is shooter at the top of your short list of suspicion? If he isn't, who warrants a search instead?

2) Why did you seek the spotlight?

He hasn't answered my question yet.
2013-08-07 21:20:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I've been going over FreeAim's quotes for a while now, mulling it over in my braaaaain. I'm not sure quite what role he is playing in this little drama, and i'm troubled by the questions that have been raised. So before I decide which quotes to use and post my analysis, I'll ask him two questions:

1) Is shooter at the top of your short list of suspicion? If he isn't, who warrants a search instead?

2) Why did you seek the spotlight?

1) Currently, he is at the top with CogMonkey and believe me, it would be so even if neither of them had voted for me, even though them voting for me makes them all the more suspicious to me.

2)
http://media.tumblr.com/4402ed2a5b3328e5f868f5e18f128406/tumblr_inline_moii63eX0m1qz4rgp.gif
2013-08-07 21:24:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


1) Currently, he is at the top with CogMonkey and believe me, it would be so even if neither of them had voted for me.

2)
http://media.tumblr.com/4402ed2a5b3328e5f868f5e18f128406/tumblr_inline_moii63eX0m1qz4rgp.gif

So you make it up as you go along?
2013-08-07 21:29:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


So you make it up as you go along?

Don't try to purposefully misunderstand my posts. He asked the question and I answered to what he asked; nothing less, nothing more than that.
2013-08-07 21:33:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Perhaps I was being too subtle. There have been certain... signs i've seen, little hints that the judgements made this day may be more important than others realize. I'm looking for some more reactions to see how best to frame these arguments.2013-08-07 21:37:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Perhaps I was being too subtle. There have been certain... signs i've seen, little hints that the judgements made this day may be more important than others realize. I'm looking for some more reactions to see how best to frame these arguments.

Burn when is your next mega-post ready anyways.
2013-08-07 21:43:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Burn when is your next mega-post ready anyways.
I've been doing preliminary analysis of FreeAim's posts. But I'm waiting for a response before I finish my interpretation. I'll give him a little bit to choose his words, but most likely within an hour.
2013-08-07 21:49:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


To answer Shooter's question:

Because I am clever. I also am clever enough not to leak my strategy to anyone, even though I doubt nobody would understand it, apart from me.

Honestly though, it was just to see whether you were afraid of voting CogMonkey. Purpose of that is up to you to deduce.
2013-08-07 21:53:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


To answer Shooter's question:

Because I am clever. I also am clever enough not to leak my strategy to anyone, even though I doubt nobody would understand it, apart from me.

http://i.imgur.com/XkjF2.gif
2013-08-07 21:58:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Dang that's a great GIF butter.2013-08-07 22:08:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Thanks.2013-08-07 22:12:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Because I am clever. I also am clever enough not to leak my strategy to anyone, even though I doubt nobody would understand it, apart from me.

http://awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/OprahShade.gif
2013-08-07 22:13:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


I've weighed the evidence, and have come to the conclusion that FreeAim is innocent. I'll try to come up with a mega post later to explain my reasoning, but he also plays a twisty game of gambling and bluffs. It's going to take me longer than usual, if I can manage to put it into words at all.

I maintaaaaaain my vote for shooter.
2013-08-07 22:19:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


he also plays a twisty game of gambling and bluffs.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/37004124.jpg

EDIT: Sadly I couldn't stay awake until the mega-post. I'll read it in the morning.
2013-08-07 22:34:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I'm almost sure that I might have gotten it right this time.

L.A.M.E REPORT
The next folks up to die by Lovers, Action, Monetization, or Exits are...


Shooter0898 (4): butter-kicker, Burnvictim42, Jedi_1993, FreeAim
FreeAim (2): Shooter0898, CogMonkey
CogMonkey (1): RockSauron


Players who have yet to vote: Dawnbreaker_23, Dragonvarsity, gdn001, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond

The day will end on August 8th at 5:00 PM EST.
2013-08-07 23:10:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


So Cog and Jedi can vote twice?2013-08-07 23:13:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


I've voted, but I'm on the not voted list the the current report.

In out of game news I am going on Holiday Friday. The hotel has wifi so I will still be able to play. However, on Friday I'll be inactive. So don't think it's part of some master plan, mostly looking at Burn's Sherlock standard of sleuthing here, I'm simply travelling.

Back to the game:
I know I said I'd probably change my vote but with everything that's been said, I'm sticking with shooter.
2013-08-07 23:17:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Fixed the report. Maybe one day I'll get it right on the first try.2013-08-07 23:19:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


So what else other than my strange voting habits have made me a suspect? Please tell me as everytime I'm accused as being mafia it's because of voting and nothing else.2013-08-07 23:41:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Voting is a pretty big part of this game. You and FreeAim both have pointed out the consequences involved. You also play a key part in this, it seems, and the only way to get to the truth is to discover your identity. Braaaaains.2013-08-08 00:06:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Voting is a pretty big part of this game. You and FreeAim both have pointed out the consequences involved. You also play a key part in this, it seems, and the only way to get to the truth is to discover your identity.

Well if I die quite a few people will be facing the consequences of killing a civilian and the only way to prove my innocence is if I die. Since that appears to be the case i vote for myself. Once I'm revealed as a civilian many of the people that have voted for me will be voted for next and since most think I'm mafia I might as well prove my own innocence even if I have to die to do so.
2013-08-08 00:16:00

Author:
Shooter0898
Posts: 996


Well if I die quite a few people will be facing the consequences of killing a civilian and the only way to prove my innocence is if I die. Since that appears to be the case i vote for myself. Once I'm revealed as a civilian many of the people that have voted for me will be voted for next and since most think I'm mafia I might as well prove my own innocence even if I have to die to do so.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-1592-Computer-Reaction-Face-RnfY.gif
2013-08-08 00:23:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


Well if I die quite a few people will be facing the consequences of killing a civilian and the only way to prove my innocence is if I die. Since that appears to be the case i vote for myself. Once I'm revealed as a civilian many of the people that have voted for me will be voted for next and since most think I'm mafia I might as well prove my own innocence even if I have to die to do so.
That's my kind of crazy Vote withdrawn. Braaaains.
2013-08-08 00:31:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


In a shocking turn of events...

Shooter0898 (4): butter-kicker, Jedi_1993, FreeAim, Shooter0898
FreeAim (1): CogMonkey
CogMonkey (1): RockSauron

Players who have yet to vote: Dawnbreaker_23, Dragonvarsity, gdn001, Ali_star, xxMATEOSxx, craigmond, Burnvictim42

The day will end on August 8th at 5:00 PM EST.
2013-08-08 04:14:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909


haaaaate to do this... but I can vote still, right? 2013-08-08 04:20:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


haaaaate to do this... but I can vote still, right?
You're a horrible person, mate. A horrible, horrible person.

EDIT: I want to add clarification to an unrelated issue. An anonymous person asked me if the vigilante gets his/her kill if he/she sends me a PM the same night that the mafia or assassin kills him/her. My response:


Depends on who makes the decision first. If the vigilante sends me the PM of the person he/she wants to kill before the assassin PM and before the mafia outright says "Tonight's kill is on [Insert vigilante name here]", than the vigilante gets his/her kill. If the assassin PM or the mafia decision comes first, though, than the vigilante does not get his/her kill.
2013-08-08 04:31:00

Author:
Ryan86me
Posts: 1909



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