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E3 2013 June 11-13

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Release dates and prices for the new consoles, next gen game reveals, the joy and frustration of exclusives and more.

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Conference schedule

Thursday June 6th

Konami Pre E3 Show

10:00 AM

Monday June 10th


Microsoft

9:00 AM - 11:00 AM PDT

Electronic Arts

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM PDT

Ubisoft

3:00 PM - 4:00 PM PDT

Sony

6:00 PM - 8:00 PM PDT

Tuesday June 11th

Nintendo Direct

7:00 AM PDT

Pok?mon X/Y Panel

6:00 PM PDT
2013-06-04 14:10:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


GTA V
All I'm interested in is GTA V
Won't be at convention
Other games don't matter to me
2013-06-04 14:13:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I have never been less excited for E32013-06-04 14:24:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Hopefully there will be some decent new IPs revealed.... though judging by the current list of next gen release titles, that seems unlikely.2013-06-04 14:34:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


^ it's probably just due to the fact we've only really had console reveal events and reveals of exsisting cross gen sequels so far, It wouldn't really be productive for sony or microsoft to reveal new ip's at their console reveal event scince there wasn't enough time to give a proper focus to them.
for instance, they showed off killzone which everyone already knows how to play. it means there's no need to focus on gameplay and people can easily compare ps4 to ps3 in terms of graphics. I recon we'll see most new ip's at e3, when they can properly be shown off.
2013-06-04 15:48:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


New IPs... like MM's new one. That'll be for sure.

Also, http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1950043/mirrors_edge_2_domain_registered_by_ea.html

Think we'll see Mirror's Edge 2 at E3?
2013-06-04 16:22:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Also, http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1950043/mirrors_edge_2_domain_registered_by_ea.html

Think we'll see Mirror's Edge 2 at E3?
OH GOD PLEASE YES
​and make it full open world :3
and hope EA doesnt ruin it
2013-06-04 16:26:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


OH GOD PLEASE YES
​and make it full open world :3
and hope EA doesnt ruin it

Now with added guns, release date DLC, mictrotransactions, a 2hr campaign, and online multiplayer with a bunch of 12 yr olds that may or may not have had "relations" with your mother.
2013-06-04 16:39:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Now with added guns, release date DLC, mictrotransactions, a 2hr campaign, and online multiplayer with a bunch of 12 yr olds that may or may not have had "relations" with your mother.

More importantly...

GUNS!

Lots and lots of GUNS!

Can't have a game without GUNS!

...

Anyway, for Mirror's Edge 2, I'm hoping that they have more open environments, if not an Open world.
2013-06-04 17:02:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Ahh, time for my annual Medievil 3 flag flying 2013-06-04 17:13:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


I mostly only care about cartoony games. And often the ones that have animal people characters or fantasy beings in general. So there's only a small handful of stuff i'm looking forward to watching the videos of and hearing about. *mew

Sonic.
Pokemon.
MM's new create game.
And a few other things.
2013-06-04 17:23:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I'm excited to see more on the new PS4 games. I'm in the wrong timezone though so I'll check it the following day. Will certainly give me plenty to read about.2013-06-04 18:32:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


I'm excited to see more on the new PS4 games. I'm in the wrong timezone though so I'll check it the following day. Will certainly give me plenty to read about.

No, you're in a different timezone. There's nothing wrong with our timezone.
2013-06-04 18:45:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Waiting for Square Enix to be honest. THey already announced a Final Fantasy is being developed for Ps4. Waiting to see if this is FInal Fantasy XV or just Versus put on Ps4.

Persona 5 would be a nice showing too. Havent seen much from Atlus in a while.
2013-06-04 18:59:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


Persona 5 would be a nice showing too. Havent seen much from Atlus in a while.
Isn't Atlus working on that "Dragon's Crown" game with the sex-appeal sorceress and the dwarf with the awesome beard?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Dragons_Crown.png
2013-06-04 19:04:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Isn't Atlus working on that "Dragon's Crown" game with the sex-appeal sorceress and the dwarf with the awesome beard?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Dragons_Crown.png


Only publishing it. they've published a bit, however, I think RPG Maker is talking about the Persona team, who last worked on Catherine.
2013-06-04 19:10:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Guys, I am dissapoint.

I will be waiting vigorously for Smash Bros, and hopefully the next Zelda.
...And the other stuff Nintendo, Sony, and Ubi has to show. Watching M$ flail about will be funny as well.
2013-06-04 19:20:00

Author:
JamesDNaux
Posts: 757


I'm excited to see more on the new PS4 games. I'm in the wrong timezone though so I'll check it the following day. Will certainly give me plenty to read about.

We're in the right timezone, we get to sleep through the conference and wake up to all the news.
2013-06-04 19:27:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


We're in the right timezone, we get to sleep through the conference and wake up to all the news.

Fair point, well made.


No, you're in a different timezone. There's nothing wrong with our timezone.

But.. I.. I didn't mean it like that! Nooooo!
2013-06-04 19:47:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


Waiting for Square Enix to be honest. THey already announced a Final Fantasy is being developed for Ps4. Waiting to see if this is FInal Fantasy XV or just Versus put on Ps4.

I read a while ago that FFXV is Versus put on PS4, renamed and renumbered. May have been a rumour, though.
2013-06-04 21:19:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


I'm hoping Fromsoft shows off some more Dark Souls 2 stuff. That's the game I'm most anticipated for this E3. I also would like to hear more on PS4 and some of it's exclusives, like Infamous Second Son or Primal Carnage Genesis.2013-06-04 23:34:00

Author:
argetlam350
Posts: 212


I read a while ago that FFXV is Versus put on PS4, renamed and renumbered. May have been a rumour, though.

I've heard the same, and I'd trust the person that told me that.
2013-06-04 23:36:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


Only publishing it. they've published a bit, however, I think RPG Maker is talking about the Persona team, who last worked on Catherine.

Ya thats the one. Dragon crown looks pretty good. That..."blessed" sorceress sure got the attention of the press though lol



I read a while ago that FFXV is Versus put on PS4, renamed and renumbered. May have been a rumour, though.

It is. There is no official confirmation, but a lot of speculation. The lead designer of Final Fantasy Versus (Also who made Kingdom Hearts) said he wanted to push the limits of the ps3 with that game. Of course, its been two years since we have heard or seen anything regarding that game. The guy from SE said they would be showing a new FInal Fantasy game at E3 and it will be for the next gen. Technically, this cant be Versus, because Versus was already announced and shown. Not that I would mind if it was though.

I still think Versus will be a Ps3 title that will hold us over until FF XV is finished. I doubt FF XV is that far into development. While FF Versus should be well into it.
2013-06-05 00:22:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


Oh please say this image is true:
http://i4.minus.com/j7nf1qafyPfCh.jpg
2013-06-07 02:59:00

Author:
argetlam350
Posts: 212


Oh please say this image is true:
http://i4.minus.com/j7nf1qafyPfCh.jpg

I'd go with just assuming it's fake. Pretty easy to fake something like that, and you won't get your hopes up for no reason.
2013-06-07 03:18:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/06/05/playstation-at-e3-2013-watch-it-live-starting-monday/

I thought I'd post this here since no one has yet. I won't bore you much, so here's the part I thought was the biggest eye-catcher


Starting Tuesday, June 11th at noon Pacific Time, we’ll kick off three days of our PlayStation LiveCast show featuring gameplay demos and developer interviews for zillions of upcoming PS4, PS3 and PS Vita games. Expect to see Beyond: Two Souls from Quantic Dream, Destiny from Bungie, DriveClub from Evolution Studios, The Evil Within from Tango GameWorks, Gran Turismo 6 from Polyphony Digital, inFAMOUS: Second Son from Sucker Punch Productions, Killzone: Shadow Fall and Killzone Mercenary from Guerrilla Games, The Last of Us from Naughty Dog, Tearaway from Media Molecule, Wolfenstein: The New Order from MachineGames and many, many more. All told, we’re planning to showcase more than 40 games across PS4, PS3 and PS Vita.

...40 games, huh? Your move, MS.
2013-06-07 05:28:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Oh please say this image is true:
http://i4.minus.com/j7nf1qafyPfCh.jpg

It's been said that it's been used and fake.
2013-06-07 06:04:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


It's been said that it's been used and fake.

Yea its fake. The creator of KH is making FInal Fantasy Versus. Until Versus is canceled or released, there wont be KH 3. THough its something every KH fan should play because the gameplay looks similar, just with FF more mature themes. ( I personally prefer it that way)
2013-06-08 19:54:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


http://www.robleydesign.com/images/missionimpossible3kaz.gif2013-06-09 08:47:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


^ This is epic.2013-06-09 12:59:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


What film is that from? Is it from one of the Mission Impossible films?2013-06-09 13:07:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/524/420/f29.gif2013-06-09 13:11:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


YES!... Just 1 day left till it starts~ :32013-06-09 19:00:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Say, anyone want to play E3 Bingo? I could make cards for everyone who wants in and we could all see if anyone wins. So, anyone interested? Know it's last minute but yeah.

Basically, we come up with possible announcements, and if it is announced, we check it off. So? Any players?
2013-06-09 19:08:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Say, anyone want to play E3 Bingo??

Or just place E3 bets. I bet you 1 peanut that LBP3 will be discussed during E3~ *mew
2013-06-09 19:33:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Or just place E3 bets. I bet you 1 peanut that LBP3 will be discussed during E3~ *mew

I bet you three peanuts it won't, and MM's new title will be discussed at length,
2013-06-09 19:51:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I bet you three peanuts it won't, and MM's new title will be discussed at length,

I bet 4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 peanuts that neither one will happen
2013-06-09 19:53:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


As long as one of the two gets some juicy info' I'll be very happy.2013-06-09 19:55:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


I bet 4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 peanuts that neither one will happen

But they already showed the MM game... Makes sense they'd show it again.

Also, don't use peanuts lightly.
2013-06-09 19:58:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


17 Hazelnuts Nintendo spends half their direct on something no one cares about.2013-06-09 20:15:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


This was seen at E3:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/09/plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare-spotted-at-e3.aspx
A new Plants Vs. Zombies?
2013-06-09 20:32:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


What film is that from? Is it from one of the Mission Impossible films?

Yeah, the third one.

Here's some more Kaz gifs:

http://cdn.kotaku.com.br/wp-content/blogs.dir/11/files/2013/02/original-13.gif

http://www.blondenerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Gif.gif

http://i.minus.com/iJZiu8uSg6Nvx.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f16654eba6b8037f4681be542db3c50a/tumblr_mijuor7bQK1r0a3zro1_400.gif

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/812/sonyexecsavengers.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/jurassickazxiu1c.gif

http://i.minus.com/iFI5J32yZJ1OK.gif

http://i.minus.com/i59yXniSzNxb7.gif
2013-06-09 22:07:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


So rumours from someone allegedly in the know.


^_^ confiemed micresft actively attemptbuyinr PS44FOUR nonmetnions. IF y dont explifitly here 3rdparty say “OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE’ confdinetly assuem Ps4 version is avabilelbe behind scenes. #truthfact

^_^ stag2 indethpth drm mesaging a@t gamescom. rental stretegy is no stratgy, nolpan for support, just watnt o keep quiet. nontalk execs! beacuse mesaging isnt done. stagae1 waslast Tursyfday...

^_^ cloudpower=praroleofficer. desined from day1@s DRM. peirod. uknoo this alreyad thogh.,, MS idaea. aproached third parties wplan not otherway around. EA/Ubi bigest boostrs but lesa Activbliz whcih makes mye haed fulll of weird#!

^_^ ONE drm tos plans iws worse than you know. asmnow btw but I can;t get cororobating proof frrorm my fpeoples. theyr sadcared for jobs. it s com*ing tho IT IS COMING ):

^_^ MEedge2 at MS conf. langlewdell not mkaign an appearnce.

^_^ princeofpersian retgurgiate. for msfconf

^_^ sspecial sekrit Philupspensergame/? - world of banks frmo warmggamin.et

^_^ LIVEpaywallfirm like myb utocks in place for ONEE!1 f2p? sorury.

^_^ deadreising3 and exclcusive DLC for other capcpom game

^_^ onlingamingpayo.w.-allklk for Sony? ahha nope.noconfirm

^_^ sonty rapped up tighterrea than Virgin mosquito when on drm istuf. Frustartin!g myinfogloves!

And a translation.


1. Confirmed Microsoft is actively attempting to get developers to not mention PS4 versions. If they don't say "OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE" expect a PS4 version. #truthfact

2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember.

3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so.

4. DRM plans are actually worse than what they've stated.

5. Mirror's Edge 2 at MS conference.

6. Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.

7. Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks

8. Live paywall still there.

9. Dead Rising 3, and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game at MS conference.

10. No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed.

11. No DRM info for PS4.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089
2013-06-10 07:30:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Recently, the more I read about Microsoft, the more lying blatsers they sound to me.
Also, I don't like their new logo, it's so bland and doesn't stand out
2013-06-10 08:48:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Betting 5 hazelnuts that some people leave the Microsoft conference early / someone boos them2013-06-10 10:24:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Only a few more hours to go. My body is ready.2013-06-10 12:58:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


My body is ready.

Same here, Hohoo~
http://i.imgur.com/p3l1paF.png
2013-06-10 13:57:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Effort watching the conference, summary website anyone?2013-06-10 14:18:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Effort watching the conference, summary website anyone?

I'm sure all your friendly neighbourhood gaming sites will have plenty of summaries.
2013-06-10 14:50:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Effort watching the conference, summary website anyone?

Joystiq, Eurogamer and Kotaku normally do a decent live blog.
2013-06-10 15:16:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Less than 2 hours till Microsoft's conference begins.

Hm...

also, today, we will most likely either see LBP3 or MM's next game. Maybe both. DUN DUN DUN!
2013-06-10 15:34:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


also, today, we will most likely either see LBP3 or MM's next game. Maybe both. DUN DUN DUN!

Looking at Mm's twitter it seems they are going full force with Tearaway... still... lbp3 would be nice.
2013-06-10 15:44:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


Update: Livestream begins at 11:50am et./ 8:50am pt with a special PSVita worldwide reveal. Then our Xbox Preshow w/ Phil Spencer and Rare.

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/344098136802852864
2013-06-10 15:45:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Looking at Mm's twitter it seems they are going full force with Tearaway... still... lbp3 would be nice.

Well, obviously their twitter only shows their confirmed title. They wouldn't talk about their only-semi confirmed Tech Demo from the PS4 reveal. After they reveal what they're working on, you can bet they'll tweet about it too. It's like how Naughty Dog only talked about Uncharted before The Last of Us was revealed.

Also, they aren't working on LBP3, so yeah.
2013-06-10 15:50:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Well, obviously their twitter only shows their confirmed title. They wouldn't talk about their only-semi confirmed Tech Demo from the PS4 reveal. After they reveal what they're working on, you can bet they'll tweet about it too. It's like how Naughty Dog only talked about Uncharted before The Last of Us was revealed.

Also, they aren't working on LBP3, so yeah.

Well we'll see soon enough... got to love E3.

Anyway, under an hour to Ms; they've got a mountain to climb.
2013-06-10 16:01:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


https://twitter.com/lifelower/status/344100655922823170 thats one of the rumours confirmed.2013-06-10 16:47:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Quick recap before everything starts
Here's what we should expect:
*Every game from the PS4 conference, save maybe diablo 3
*Actual games for the Xbone
*Gameplay for Destiny
*Plants vs Zombies 2
*What the PS4 looks like
*MM's new game
*Few hidden suprises from Sony's conference
*Final Fantasy XIII-3 Lightning Returns
*Saints Row 4
*Tearaway
*CoD Ghosts
*Xbone games from that leaked image
All of this is not including the following Nintendo Direct
If I missed anything, inform me
2013-06-10 16:50:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Wasn't MS at 9am PDT?' (4pm GMT)

which is now...

are they late to their own conference cause I can't find a stream which is actually active yet?
2013-06-10 17:06:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


No, the conference is in about 20 minutes (12:30 PM EST)2013-06-10 17:07:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


ah... my bad then... I was sure they advertised it for 9 PDT though.

Oh well, I'm probably gonna miss most of it cause I got work in 40 mins =p
2013-06-10 17:09:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


Wasn't MS at 9am PDT?' (4pm GMT)

which is now...

are they late to their own conference cause I can't find a stream which is actually active yet?

turns out it's a half 9 start.
2013-06-10 17:10:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Someone please splain what is up with MGS.
It's nice to see Microsoft digging their own grave though ~

Microsoft think they can buy me with 24 old games a year //LOLNOPE
2013-06-10 17:42:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Microsoft has announced a new Xbox 360. Why?2013-06-10 17:46:00

Author:
themaxus
Posts: 90


Microsoft is killin it so far! Makes me even more excited for Sony's presentation.2013-06-10 18:07:00

Author:
comishguy67
Posts: 849


Number of games I want so far: 02013-06-10 18:12:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Rock confirmed to be in Project Spark.2013-06-10 18:22:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


Ahahahaha the battlefield cockup was the best2013-06-10 18:45:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Project Spark seems a bit like LittleBigPlanet.2013-06-10 18:47:00

Author:
Kalawishis
Posts: 928


Project Spark seems a bit like LittleBigPlanet.

He actually uttered the phrase "Play, build, share". The audacity of the man!
2013-06-10 18:47:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


So Gold subs are now getting some PS+ style free games.2013-06-10 18:54:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


?430, $499 and 499 euros.

No thanks.
2013-06-10 19:00:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


aaaand $499... that's what, around ?400? this already failed with the ps3 launch, why do they think it'll work with something people want less?2013-06-10 19:01:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


Shows the change in exchange rates when $/€100 cheaper works out at a little more than the ?425 the PS3 was converted to from $600 6 years ago.2013-06-10 19:06:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


The games in the first half seemed nice enough but I'm disappointed they didn't address the concerns people have raised about privacy, always online and used games.

I think the thing that most impressed me was the matchmaking across multiple games at once and how you could switch between games immediately to play with someone. That I felt was very clever and a good feature.
2013-06-10 19:19:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


On Xbone I didn't see or hear about even 1 game I would want. Well... That's a good thing considering I don't want the system anyways. *mew2013-06-10 19:23:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Insomniac Games & Microsoft?! What the hell?! D:2013-06-10 20:03:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


Insomniac Games & Microsoft?! What the hell?! D:

They're an independent studio, they can work with who ever they want to.
2013-06-10 20:10:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


It's still a bit surprising based on their prior history with Sony. Nothing really excited me so far, hope we get to see the PS4 at Sony's conference.2013-06-10 20:17:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


honestly it's not that bad a thing, insomniac hasn't really been the same the past few years, and really I feel they've yet to trump the spyro trilogy. that said their game does look like it has potential but after overstrike-fuse it's hard to get too excited over a cgi trailer.2013-06-10 20:17:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


They just had an EA published multiformat game with Fuse (whch bombed spectacularly)2013-06-10 20:27:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


It's still a bit surprising based on their prior history with Sony. Nothing really excited me so far, hope we get to see the PS4 at Sony's conference.

When is that? I haven't seen a schedule. :blush:
2013-06-10 20:34:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I haven't seen a schedule. :blush:

Its in the first post.
2013-06-10 20:35:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


On Xbone I didn't see or hear about even 1 game I would want. Well... That's a good thing considering I don't want the system anyways. *mew
There was MGS x RDR and Dark Souls 2 (with the most inappropriate trailer music for Dark Souls ever) but what else was there? I felt the first half of the MS conference was stronger than the second since there was variety with things like Ryse and Spark. The second half had Battlefield, Halo and Titan Fall, where I started to zone out.


?430, $499 and 499 euros.

No thanks.
Yeah, way too high like the PS3 was at launch. Since the One has so many malicious features though I wouldn't use it even if they were giving them away.
2013-06-10 20:36:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Its in the first post.

LOL!! Figures. Thanks!
2013-06-10 20:40:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


There was MGS x RDR and Dark Souls 2 (with the most inappropriate trailer music for Dark Souls ever) but what else was there? I felt the first half of the MS conference was stronger than the second since there was variety with things like Ryse and Spark. The second half had Battlefield, Halo and Titan Fall, where I started to zone out.

I don't want any of those games tbh. Out of everything shown I only maybe will get Darksouls2 when it comes out. *mew
2013-06-10 20:41:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Time for EA to... well, probably not shine actually...

Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare, what? o.o
2013-06-10 21:10:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


Star Wars Battlfront is back. I'm so freaking happy for that.2013-06-10 21:19:00

Author:
argetlam350
Posts: 212


Extremely brief Star Wars: Battlefront teaser.

Makes sense since they just got the rights, though, and didn't have enough time to make more. So I'll let it slide.
2013-06-10 21:19:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Yeah but hey I'm just happy they are even making it after all this time. Fans have been wanting it forever.

EDIT:
Yes! Dragon Age: Inquisition now hopefully Bioware has learned from the mistakes of DA2.
2013-06-10 21:22:00

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argetlam350
Posts: 212


...and time to tune out until EA sports stops telling me about how well their new games handle various balls.

EDIT: Oh look, Mirrors Edge 2!
2013-06-10 21:35:00

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Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322


What time will sony go on in EST time?2013-06-10 22:06:00

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Unknown User


What time will sony go on in EST time?

9: 30 pm
2013-06-10 22:09:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


If Mm has a new game to show...do you think they had a game jam for it just like their LBP games?
Maybe they had people like Taffey attend.
Also:

http://i.imgur.com/LokNXxb.jpg
2013-06-10 22:24:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


So... about that Plants of Duty: Modern Warfare...2013-06-10 22:28:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


If Mm has a new game to show...

Project Spark looked pretty fun...I hope Mm can show something equally cool...
2013-06-10 22:28:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214


Ubisoft in less than 5 minutes

Can't wait for Watch Dogs!

EDIT: INNOVATIVE NEXT-GEN GAMING
CHANGING INSTRUMENTS
VIA VOICE COMMAND
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAA AAH

Ubisoft, give me Watch Dogs already :/
2013-06-10 22:58:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


Ubisoft in less than 5 minutes

Can't wait for Watch Dogs!

EDIT: INNOVATIVE NEXT-GEN GAMING
CHANGING INSTRUMENTS
VIA VOICE COMMAND
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAA AAH

Ubisoft, give me Watch Dogs already :/

I'm more excited for Nintendo tomorrow!
2013-06-11 00:18:00

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amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Hey guys

You can point at stuff in the new rabbids game
2013-06-11 00:51:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino
Posts: 1274


"300+ more games for ps3"

*shows Sackboy in the background*

confirmed lbp3?
2013-06-11 02:38:00

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ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


4qiwjasdj,ascikgj,asdi,jgmiar,jsfgipc,jmilrasfjxci k,jremilj

KINGDOM HEARTS III AND FINAL FANTASY XV!

2013-06-11 03:18:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Not really surprised with FF13-Versus being FF15, was rumored to be anyways but Kingdom Hearts 3, all I can say is about freaking time! So happy they finally announced it.2013-06-11 03:29:00

Author:
argetlam350
Posts: 212


Sony just won...

and a slap in the face to MS with no used games restriction ... no online connection... cross game chat...

ps+ transfers to ps4

On the downside might need + for multiplayer now...
2013-06-11 03:42:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


Lol, I was laughing real hard at the crowd's reaction...

However, they were pretty sneaky by saying you need PS+ to be online :/
2013-06-11 03:50:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Lol, I was laughing real hard at the crowd's reaction...

However, they were pretty sneaky by saying you need PS+ to be online :/

Yeah... but lesser of two evils no?
2013-06-11 03:52:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


Yeah... but lesser of two evils no?

Yeah, was already thinking of renewing my PS+ membership so eh

Oh, and epic troll move by Sony...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWSIFh8ICaA
2013-06-11 03:53:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Yeah, was already thinking of renewing my PS+ membership so eh

Well I'm thinking of getting ps+ =p



?349!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
2013-06-11 03:57:00

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ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


Kind of sucks that you need PS+ for online play but with everything else you usually get with PS+, it really isn't a big deal I guess. Disappointing but not as disappointing as I thought it would be.2013-06-11 04:08:00

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argetlam350
Posts: 212


Well that was an extermination... and it is 4am for me... good night everybody2013-06-11 04:16:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


I was unhappy with all the shows so far today personally. Not 1 single game out of everything today that I truly care about or feel like I need. I think Nintendo may have a better chance of stealing the light for me personally today. *mew2013-06-11 04:20:00

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Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I liked what was shown at Sony's E3 press conference. I was laughing when they were talking about used games and not always requiring online play. That was a mega slap to the face for Microsoft. They must be in tears right now.2013-06-11 04:39:00

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amoney1999
Posts: 1202


PS4, if anyone wants to see it.

http://cdn.escapistmagazine.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/497/497298.jpg
http://cdn.escapistmagazine.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/497/497298.jpg


I liked what was shown at Sony's E3 press conference. I was laughing when they were talking about used games and not always requiring online play. That was a mega slap to the face for Microsoft. They must be in tears right now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
http://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA
2013-06-11 04:39:00

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warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Sony killed Microsoft tonight at e3. I almost feel sorry for them.

No online requirement, no used games restrictions, And $400, looks like Sony will be my go to console again.
2013-06-11 04:46:00

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VelcroJonze
Posts: 1305


That video has got to be the troll of the century. And the way they announced that there was going to be no DRM or used games restrictions was a huge FU to Microsoft.

Let's just hope Sony doesn't get too ahead of themselves. If they play their cards right, the next console war is won. It'd be a shame if they were to revert to their former arrogance.
2013-06-11 04:46:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I was unhappy with all the shows so far today personally. Not 1 single game out of everything today that I truly care about or feel like I need. I think Nintendo may have a better chance of stealing the light for me personally today. *mew

I have to agree. There was honestly nothing that really wowed me. On one hand, Microsoft's policies with always online and used games and all that is a big turn off (even though to me, personally, it doesn't really matter - but I can see why it would bother some.) But they did have a lot of games to show off, and many of them were exclusives.

On the other hand, the price point for the PS4 and their policies (again, not really a problem for me, being online is not a problem in my household.) was a real plus for me. However, the exclusives Sony had were really bad in my opinion. Nothing jaw dropping, and to be honest their conference was sort of blah. More than half of the games they showed us were already shown today so it was a real snore-fest for me.I guess that's the disadvantage of going last in the day but I digress.

Also the fact that PS+ is going Xbox Live shall be a big negative to most I'm sure (although it would not be a negative for me since I've always paid a yearly service on the Xbox).

To be honest, the only game that really stood out for me and the only game I actually want to get is Destiny, and since it's not really an exclusive, I'm actually not quite interested in either consoles. They are both really lacking in the games department, too many sequels. Not enough new and exciting IPs. Although The Division looks promising.
2013-06-11 04:59:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I guess I look forward to the new Batman game and couple of the indie games. but that batman game was already shown off before E3... So not quite sure I count it. *mew2013-06-11 05:14:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Wait, PS4 may require PS+ just to go online? Time to get a better PC then. :/2013-06-11 11:22:00

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gdn001
Posts: 5891


Only just saw the Sony conference because I fell asleep. Felt like a stronger line up of games with more variety than what Microsoft showed, although nothing really jumped out at me as being a must play.

Am I right in thinking you'll need paid online membership to play multiplayer games? No thanks, that's a huge negative.
2013-06-11 11:23:00

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Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Looks like Nintendo could either steal the show or crash and burn.
Find out in only 3 hours.
2013-06-11 11:53:00

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flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Am I right in thinking you'll need paid online membership to play multiplayer games? No thanks, that's a huge negative.

Yeah... But no idea if we need it for all games with multiplayer modes... But if we do... That's a mega big turnoff for me. I don't buy PS+. IMO PS+ it's terrible and is basically a scam.

I Can't wait to hear more about Wii U. tbh it's sounding better and better after all the BS I've been seeing from M$ & Sony lately. *mew
2013-06-11 12:18:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


i'd disagree with ps+ being a scam scince it's absolutely not mandatory, whilst I've never bothered paying for it myself I have a number of friends who find it to be a really good deal. also, if it becomes mandatory next gen, then you still get the free games. I mean I won't be best pleased scince free online is the main reason I got ps3 over 360 but it seems to be the lesser of two evils.
It's also worth noting that the consoles don't really need to wow with games at the moment, we know eventually both will probably have great libraries, at the moment they need to sell the machines themselves and so far, sony have done a much better job of it then microsoft.
2013-06-11 12:37:00

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Smudge228
Posts: 533


i'd disagree with ps+ being a scam

Except it will be next gen if you want to play with your online buddies. Unless you always renew your PS+ you can't even play all the games you downloaded using it. I know full well as a friend of mine on LBP couldn't join me on LBP because he got LBP2 free with PS+ and didn't bother renewing his PS+ for a few months after he lost it. So basically the PS+ games are worthless unless you always renew the service. And so while one can live without PS+ easily right now. Next gen is gonna be hell if games like PS4 LBP's online-mode need it. *mew
2013-06-11 12:45:00

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Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmRRDLosxQLIdGJmcVJudmxhSzhsb1hkX19ZRWMxS 0E#gid=0

I don't think you can call renting that many games in a year a scam especially when keeping up the subscription allows you to retain access to it all and gets you another year of games.
2013-06-11 12:55:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I don't think you can call renting that many games in a year a scam

Don't you always have to be online to play your PS+ games also? I don't care about cheap prices much. As I just want to be able to play my games whenever I want... offline or whatever. *mew
2013-06-11 13:00:00

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Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Don't you always have to be online to play your PS+ games also? I don't care about cheap prices much. As I just want to be able to play my games whenever I want... offline or whatever. *mew

Nope once you've downloaded the game you can play it offine all you want
2013-06-11 13:19:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Don't you always have to be online to play your PS+ games also? I don't care about cheap prices much. As I just want to be able to play my games whenever I want... offline or whatever. *mew

Going by what I've found on the web, you can play PS+ games offline but they periodcally require you to log in. On the other hand, they do get "locked" if your subscription runs out, which is a real shame if you happen to be a busy student like me who plays one hour a week.
2013-06-11 13:22:00

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Oddmania
Posts: 1305


Meh. You guys can be ok with it all you want. I still don't like it. And if we need it to play all online games later on PS4. Then I'll still consider it a scam at that point. Even if nobody else does. *mew2013-06-11 13:25:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I think I will stick with Steam for now. Free online, free games during weekends and lots of sales.2013-06-11 13:32:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Going by what I've found on the web, you can play PS+ games offline but they periodcally require you to log in. On the other hand, they do get "locked" if your subscription runs out, which is a real shame if you happen to be a busy student who plays one hour a week.

I think this is only the case if they were free with PS+. Discounted games don't get locked.
2013-06-11 13:36:00

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Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmRRDLosxQLIdGJmcVJudmxhSzhsb1hkX19ZRWMxS 0E#gid=0

I don't think you can call renting that many games in a year a scam especially when keeping up the subscription allows you to retain access to it all and gets you another year of games.
The difference is you don't need a PS+ subscription to play any other online multiplayer game right now. That's what is changing.
2013-06-11 13:37:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Sony's Conference was alright. (A lot better than Ubi's imo) It was nice to see a little bit more of their original four titles, and the Destiny footage was enticing. (Even though I'm not a big FPS fan) The Final Fantasy XV/Kingdom Hearts 3 reveals shocked me and were fun to watch, even though I've never played either franchise's titles. It was great hearing Sony's little slap in the face to MS, but not fully mentioning things like mandatory PS+ could raise some concern. The new titles like "The Order," "The Dark Sorcerer," and "Mad Max" don't hold any appeal for me, but maybe that could change for one of them. I'm still excited for Infamous 3, although it would've been great to see either MM's new game, Naughty Dog's new game, the rumored LBP3, or for goodness sake, THE LAST GUARDIAN. The showcase of indie partnerships was impressive and I'm pumped for Puppeteer, but like Whalio and fumet said, not a lot of appealing new titles, and some of the footage we got had already been seen. Still, more Watch Dogs/Arkham Origins info. was nice, even though I've still god a slightly bad feeling about the Batman prequel.2013-06-11 14:01:00

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Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Oh was Puppeteer shown too? Guess it was another game I forgot about since it was shown before E3 too.

So guess what I want atm from the new PS stuff is... New Batman & Puppeteer. *mew
2013-06-11 14:06:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


For under five dollars a month, you get hundreds of dollars of value. For the one free month I had, I got Gravity Rush, Jet Set Radio, Bioshock 2, River City Ransom, Final Fantasy Tactics, Quantum Conundrum, Infamous 2, and Uncharted Golden Abyss, and there were many more games available. Not all of those games were winners, but hell, if you think that's a scam then you are silly. Then again, it has a better value if you have a Vita as well. If a scam is ripping off people, then I'm not sure what you actually mean when you say you think it's a scam.

One of the biggest advantages of PSN was the fact that it was free, and while I'm not happy that they are charging for multiplayer at least you'll get several free games out of it. The conference wasn't anything amazing, but I liked how they were cheered on for not being as terrible as Microsoft. The only game that really interested me was Watch Dogs (because it actually had fun looking gameplay footage! ). Everything else seemed okay. I'm looking forward to Nintendo stuff though.
2013-06-11 14:49:00

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bonner123
Posts: 1487


It's been 20 minutes, and the live stream for Nintendo Direct E3 still isn't up..? I'm a little worried for Nintendo...2013-06-11 15:21:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


It's been 20 minutes, and the live stream for Nintendo Direct E3 still isn't up..? I'm a little worried for Nintendo...

I'm watching on joystiq.
2013-06-11 15:25:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


For under five dollars a month, you get hundreds of dollars of value. For the one free month I had, I got Gravity Rush, Jet Set Radio, Bioshock 2, River City Ransom, Final Fantasy Tactics, Quantum Conundrum, Infamous 2, and Uncharted Golden Abyss, and there were many more games available. Not all of those games were winners, but hell, if you think that's a scam then you are silly. Then again, it has a better value if you have a Vita as well. If a scam is ripping off people, then I'm not sure what you actually mean when you say you think it's a scam.

One of the biggest advantages of PSN was the fact that it was free, and while I'm not happy that they are charging for multiplayer at least you'll get several free games out of it. The conference wasn't anything amazing, but I liked how they were cheered on for not being as terrible as Microsoft. The only game that really interested me was Watch Dogs (because it actually had fun looking gameplay footage! ). Everything else seemed okay. I'm looking forward to Nintendo stuff though.
I would have no problem with PS+ subscriptions, if it wasn't for these questions:
1. Will it be available in my country?
2. Will it have the same cost in my country?
3. Will it be easy to pay for it from my country?
2013-06-11 15:35:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Shovel Knights, Bayonetta, Project X and Shin Megami Tensei IV all looked like good games from Nintendo's presentation. Project X especially looks cool but then I like mechs.


One of the biggest advantages of PSN was the fact that it was free, and while I'm not happy that they are charging for multiplayer at least you'll get several free games out of it.
They aren't free games if you're paying for PS+ and I'm not interested in a lot of what they've offered so far. The kind of games I like won't end up on PS+ and if they do I've already bought them long ago. It's basically paid online if you want to play online multiplayer.
2013-06-11 15:55:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Sonic. Pokemon. Zelda. Donkey Kong. Maybe even Mario... I am really loving what Nintendo has to offer. I really want a Wii u now. Whoo~ *mew2013-06-11 15:59:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


For under five dollars a month, you get hundreds of dollars of value. For the one free month I had, I got Gravity Rush, Jet Set Radio, Bioshock 2, River City Ransom, Final Fantasy Tactics, Quantum Conundrum, Infamous 2, and Uncharted Golden Abyss, and there were many more games available. Not all of those games were winners, but hell, if you think that's a scam then you are silly. Then again, it has a better value if you have a Vita as well. If a scam is ripping off people, then I'm not sure what you actually mean when you say you think it's a scam.

PS+ doesn't add a lot of value for me personally even though I have a PS3 and Vita. The free game selection is certainly decent, but generally it's stuff that I wanted when it was initially released. By the time it's available free for + I've already played it. Same goes for PS1 games...I'm just not interested. if it was any good I played it on the PS1.

So while it is not a rip off I prefer having the choice of not buying it...if the value proposition is great enough they shouldn't have to force it on their customers.

If ps+ was only required for online games with dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, that would be perfectly acceptable; I'll even happily sign up to play something like LBP3. Otherwise it's just asking me to pay for something that is currently free and supposedly will continue to be free for PS3 and Vita without adding any additional value...

The cloud save backup is a nice ps+ feature...but only because of annoying copy protected game saves; otherwise being able to backup to local usb storage is better. I sure hope PS4 doesn't adopt Vita's dopey design with regard to glopping the game data and game save together.
2013-06-11 16:12:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214


New Smash Bros. was announced for 3DS and Wii U! Villager from Animal Crossing and Mega Man join the party! 2013-06-11 16:18:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


For under five dollars a month, you get hundreds of dollars of value. For the one free month I had, I got Gravity Rush, Jet Set Radio, Bioshock 2, River City Ransom, Final Fantasy Tactics, Quantum Conundrum, Infamous 2, and Uncharted Golden Abyss, and there were many more games available. Not all of those games were winners, but hell, if you think that's a scam then you are silly. Then again, it has a better value if you have a Vita as well. If a scam is ripping off people, then I'm not sure what you actually mean when you say you think it's a scam.

One of the biggest advantages of PSN was the fact that it was free, and while I'm not happy that they are charging for multiplayer at least you'll get several free games out of it. The conference wasn't anything amazing, but I liked how they were cheered on for not being as terrible as Microsoft. The only game that really interested me was Watch Dogs (because it actually had fun looking gameplay footage! ). Everything else seemed okay. I'm looking forward to Nintendo stuff though.

I've heard great things about PS+, sure. But I don't think I want to pay extra for things I might not be able to use. This is my position:
When I made my account, I didn't realise the 'age limits' so I was unaware I wouldn't be able to download certain things. I didn't make a new account because I didn't want all my LBP DLC to be lost, and I want that DLC for my Vita too. Now, I miss the good games and a lot of the Vita's features because I am:

A) A Sub-Account
B) Under-age

Keep in mind, if we're paying extra, we want the full benefits of it. I'm going on sixteen, and while it's likely I won't pay for the monthly fee, although I might when I get a job, I aid for my Vita from hard saved money and to have to pay extra for things I won't get is unfair, even if it isn't all too much. If I'm paying ?50 a month, but can't download an 18 rated game which is meant to be covered by the money being spent monthly, that is unfair, in my opinion.
2013-06-11 16:27:00

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craigmond
Posts: 2426


If I'm paying ?50 a month, but can't download an 18 rated game which is meant to be covered by the money being spent monthly, that is unfair, in my opinion.

PS+ is (currently) ?39 per month, not per year.
2013-06-11 16:50:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


PS+ is (currently) ?39 per month, not per year.

other way around.
2013-06-11 16:56:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Erm, it's $49.99 / ?39.99 for an entire year.

Anyway, I like the service. I don't use it that often, but it gives me the opportunity to try games I otherwise wouldn't get (I never had I PS1, nor do I have enough money to buy every new triple A game). I can definitely understand not wanting it if you don't have any interest in / already have the available games, but calling it a rip off is unfounded. Again, I'm not happy that they're forcing a subscription for multiplayer games but it's something I can live with I guess.

Nintendo's "conference" was pretty good. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team looks pretty fun as does Bayonetta and Pikmin 3. Mario Kart 8 also looks great, and that's the first time I said anything good about Mario Kart since the Gamecube version. The 3DS Zelda game doesn't look that great, but who knows. I'm disappointed with Super Mario 3D world as well, it just looks like a step back from Galaxy. Granted, it looks fun but it seems a bit… lacking in some respects? Windwaker also looks beautiful, but I have no interest in it if there aren't a few more dungeons thrown in.

I do like the mentality of just being honest and presenting a bunch of upcoming games without all the gratuitous BS. I'm not sure what I'm sold on yet, but the Wii U is starting to look pretty good.
2013-06-11 17:17:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487


Nintendo's stream was alright. Nothing that unexpected.2013-06-11 17:25:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


other way around.

Yeah.... that's what I meant to type. Silly me.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg
2013-06-11 17:41:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


PS+ is (currently) ?39 per month, not per year.

Ah, my bad. But still, I feel like it's a little unfair for those of us who can't reap the benefits of what we're paying for.
2013-06-11 17:48:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Did you know Square-Enix announced that Final Fantasy XV and Kingdomm Hearts III would be released on Xbox One too? It's a good thing for gamers, but that was just... unexpected. Playstation is losing a bit of its indentity. But after all, Kingdom Hearts games were released on GBA, 3DS and even on mobiles, so who cares?2013-06-11 18:55:00

Author:
Oddmania
Posts: 1305


Did you know Square-Enix announced that Final Fantasy XV and Kingdomm Hearts III would be released on Xbox One too? It's a good thing for gamers, but that was just... unexpected. Playstation is losing a bit of its indentity. But after all, Kingdom Hearts games were released on GBA, 3DS and even on mobiles, so who cares?

Well atleast PS4 has awesome games like Second Son and Shadow Fall.
2013-06-11 19:03:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Well atleast PS4 has awesome games like Second Son and Shadow Fall.

It's a good start considering the developers are merely dipping their toes in the water... just look at Naughty Dog and The Last of Us, can't wait until they really start pushing the system.

considering that ps4 is using 7/8 GB Gddr5 ram for games and Xbox is using 5/8 Ddr3 and the ps4's architecture makes it more powerful too (as I understand it) the gap between quality is only going to grow over time into Sony's favour.
2013-06-11 19:11:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


I'm out of the loop where the PS4 specs are concerned, has there been any solid new info regarding BC?2013-06-11 19:54:00

Author:
julesyjules
Posts: 1156


I'm out of the loop where the PS4 specs are concerned, has there been any solid new info regarding BC?

BC as in backwards compatibility?

Cause they announced that you will be able to stream ps1/2/3 games from their cloud from 2014 in the US and other places after that. The actual hardware won't support it.
2013-06-11 19:57:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


I'm out of the loop where the PS4 specs are concerned, has there been any solid new info regarding BC?

Native no cloud yes http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-playstation-4s-cloud-service-will-begin-in-early-2014
2013-06-11 19:57:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Thanks guys, tech dunce here. Is streaming from Sony's cloud a paid service? Does your account carry over from PS3? What I'm essentially wanting to know is what the score is with all the DLC and digital games I've paid for on PSN? Singstar tracks? And it'll be a year or so before I can boot up LBP2 on a PS4?2013-06-11 20:06:00

Author:
julesyjules
Posts: 1156


Don't you always have to be online to play your PS+ games also? I don't care about cheap prices much. As I just want to be able to play my games whenever I want... offline or whatever. *mew

I don't know the official answer, but while you're a member of PS+ you'll be going online at least once a month to download the new stuff anyway. I'm not a big online gamer, and I never had any problem with it for the year I had PS+. I did have to re-unlock some of my games on my old PS3 after copying my games/HD to a new PS3 Slim, but that might be a PSN-game thing, not PS+ related.


PS+ doesn't add a lot of value for me personally even though I have a PS3 and Vita. The free game selection is certainly decent, but generally it's stuff that I wanted when it was initially released. By the time it's available free for + I've already played it. Same goes for PS1 games...I'm just not interested. if it was any good I played it on the PS1.

This is my biggest problem with PS+. I tried it for a year, tried every game, seriously played only 9, all of them cheap PSN-only games, still I do think I got my money's worth. But the side effect was that I waited out the entire year before buying any LBP DLC, just in case it was going to be in a PS+ discount later ( of course there weren't, apart from the ones that lured me into PS+ initially). Call me prudent, or a cheapskate, but I don't like how PS+ affects my purchasing decisions.

Though it has some questionably coercive quality, I wouldn't call PS+ a scam at this moment, but making it mandatory would be a scam. Most of my games are offline single player, the sole exception being LBP(K). I may well be forced to pay 50 euros year after year after year just to check out some new levels on LBP3 or Mm's next Play Create Share title.

If they really need more money for servers, I'd prefer they made the games more expensive. Or even better, sell online separately as DLC. If Red Dead Redemption had online as DLC with separate trophies, I would have the platinum trophy right now.


Does your account carry over from PS3? What I'm essentially wanting to know is what the score is with all the DLC and digital games I've paid for on PSN? Singstar tracks? And it'll be a year or so before I can boot up LBP2 on a PS4?

I think your account does carry over, the rest I don't know. That would be a big plus though, to know that everything I bought from the PSN store would at least be playable on the PS4 for no additional cost. I fear they'll make us rebuy everything for PS4 again.
2013-06-11 20:38:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


If they really need more money for servers, I'd prefer they made the games more expensive. Or even better, sell online separately as DLC. If Red Dead Redemption had online as DLC with separate trophies, I would have the platinum trophy right now.

An interesting suggestion, however what if you bought 15 games in a year, and each game charged between ?5 and ?10 to go online (which wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate)... that's quite a bit more expensive than getting PS+, without the added benefits. If you are the type to only buy one or two games a year, I could see how your idea would be beneficial.
2013-06-11 21:05:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Thanks guys, tech dunce here. Is streaming from Sony's cloud a paid service? Does your account carry over from PS3? What I'm essentially wanting to know is what the score is with all the DLC and digital games I've paid for on PSN? Singstar tracks? And it'll be a year or so before I can boot up LBP2 on a PS4?

We don't know if there will be a charge for the cloud service... it might be a part of the compulsory ps+ or it might be a case that you can stick in discs and it will stream the game based on an ID... we just don't know.

As far as I can tell all accounts will transfer... but I have a feeling that a lot of people will abandon sub accounts made when they were kids (or even those adults who have them) and adopt the less restrictive master ones instead. Unless Sony finally gives the option to upgrade. Just because ps+ is compulsory and subs cannot buy that...
2013-06-11 21:33:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


Yeah, that crossed my mind. But then again, if you're playing 15 online games in a year, you're using a lot of networking resources, so it seems kinda fair to have to pay more. Personally I think neither are necessary, this is just Sony grabbing some cash knowing the Xbone still looks much worse compared.

Getting back to E3, I'm a bit sad to realise the next two Final Fantasy games will feature action combat in stead of turn-based. I'll need to find some other turn-based franchise to carry me over. At least MGS5 hasn't disappointed. The past few generations have slowly eroded the advantages of consoles, maybe the time has come to return to PC gaming.
2013-06-11 21:36:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


Yeah, that crossed my mind. But then again, if you're playing 15 online games in a year, you're using a lot of networking resources, so it seems kinda fair to have to pay more.
A lot of games are P2P, where the players host the game. Any dedicated servers are normally run by the publishers. It costs Sony hardly anything in terms of networking resources when you play online games.
2013-06-11 22:42:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Here is something that Zelda fans might want to see...


According to series creator Shigeru Miyamoto, Nintendo's new Zelda game for the Wii U is coming along nicely -- and was nearly shown at this year's E3.

We just spoke with Mr. Miyamoto about many of Nintendo's upcoming games, including Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World, but when when we asked about a new original Zelda game for Wii U (which has been rumored to be out in 2014) he said that the game is farther along that many thought. Actually, the company had considered showing the game at this year's E3.

Miyamoto said, "We're also working on a new Wii U Zelda game. Work on that is progressing fairly concretely. In fact, we were thinking about showing it here at E3 but decided to wait just a little bit longer before sharing it with everyone."

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/06/11/nintendo-considered-showing-new-zelda-wii-u-game-at-e3.aspx
2013-06-11 23:41:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Thanks guys, tech dunce here. Is streaming from Sony's cloud a paid service? Does your account carry over from PS3? What I'm essentially wanting to know is what the score is with all the DLC and digital games I've paid for on PSN? Singstar tracks? And it'll be a year or so before I can boot up LBP2 on a PS4?

I "thought" they meant the cloud service will be part of PS+, though it might be separate for those that don't have PS+. As far as account carrying over, I don't see why not. It is on my PS3 and my Vita and still see my DLC available to download again if I were to jump to another PS3. ..I just cannot imagine they would say "but not PS4".

Again, I am guessing a bit.
2013-06-11 23:45:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Just got done watching all the game videos for E3 Nintendo's stuff on youtube. Nintendo can take ALL my rupees this gen~ <3

Sony & M$ can smell me later. This gen is all Nintendo for me, at least for the next couple years~ :3 *mew
2013-06-12 06:20:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


The only thing in the MS conference that interests me is Project Spark. It seems it's going to be like LBP, but in 3D. I hope Media Molecule's making something to rival that.2013-06-12 06:56:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Anyone else thinking this might be the ultimate/penultimate generation in terms of graphics processing? They're almost 100% photo-realistic, and that's at the beginning of this gen.2013-06-12 12:02:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Anyone else thinking this might be the ultimate/penultimate generation in terms of graphics processing? They're almost 100% photo-realistic, and that's at the beginning of this gen.

I think so, yeah. There's really no need for graphics to get any better.
2013-06-12 12:38:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I still want to see how this gen does in the graphical department before making any judgement.

No aliasing? Render distance as far as the eye can see? Awesome lighting and particle effects? Textures so crisp and detailed you could read the text on papers lying around? Realistic foliage and hair? Then sure, graphics development could take a break and slow down substantially.
2013-06-12 13:36:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I still want to see how this gen does in the graphical department before making any judgement.

No aliasing? Render distance as far as the eye can see? Awesome lighting and particle effects? Textures so crisp and detailed you could read the text on papers lying around? Realistic foliage and hair? Then sure, graphics development could take a break and slow down substantially.
Just enough to be considered photo-realistic. Sure, we could render every single hair on someone's head, but will it really be noticeable in most games?
2013-06-12 14:40:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Just enough to be considered photo-realistic. Sure, we could render every single hair on someone's head, but will it really be noticeable in most games?

You don't need to render every single hair. But hair during this gen still looks very bad when seen up close. It's part of the reason most protagonists have short hair.
2013-06-12 15:00:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


You don't need to render every single hair. But hair during this gen still looks very bad when seen up close. It's part of the reason most protagonists have short hair.

Another part being they cant be bothered to stop it cliping through the character.
2013-06-12 15:52:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Another part being they cant be bothered to stop it cliping through the character.

If they even bother with giving them physics, that is.
2013-06-12 16:00:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Anyone else thinking this might be the ultimate/penultimate generation in terms of graphics processing? They're almost 100% photo-realistic, and that's at the beginning of this gen.
People were saying that last gen...

I mean, MGS x RDR had excellent character models in the trailer but the terrain still looks poor. Things like the grass and telegraph poles in the screenshot below aren't even casting shadows. The ground texture still looks like something from a PS3 game. I feel there's a long way to go yet. We need MOER POWAR.

http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2013/161/681794_20130611_screen005.jpg
2013-06-12 16:21:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


People were saying that last gen...

I mean, MGS x RDR had excellent character models in the trailer but the terrain still looks poor. Things like the grass and telegraph poles in the screenshot below aren't even casting shadows. The ground texture still looks like something from a PS3 game. I feel there's a long way to go yet. We need MOER POWAR.

http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2013/161/681794_20130611_screen005.jpg

We certainly don't want to go too realistic. I mean, I don't want to feel like I'm actually killing real people when I'm playing a game. I'd like there to be enough of a difference to distinguish between that and the real world.
2013-06-12 17:48:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


People were saying that last gen...

I mean, MGS x RDR had excellent character models in the trailer but the terrain still looks poor. Things like the grass and telegraph poles in the screenshot below aren't even casting shadows. The ground texture still looks like something from a PS3 game. I feel there's a long way to go yet. We need MOER POWAR.

http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2013/161/681794_20130611_screen005.jpg

Compared to Metal Gear Rising's textures, MGS5 has much better textures.
2013-06-12 20:08:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Spaff found Miyamoto checking out Tearaway:

http://instagram.com/p/agwrb_saVl/
2013-06-13 23:49:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Spaff found Miyamoto checking out Tearaway:

http://instagram.com/p/agwrb_saVl/

Yeah, I remember when he was checking out the PSP. After all, its his competition, and everyone there checks out the competition. That, and Media Molecule was making a game I could see Miyamoto making, so makes sense he'd want to check out this intriguing idea
2013-06-14 00:08:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Here is what Shigeru Miyamoto thinks about game ownership. *mew

http://kotaku.com/marios-creator-likens-game-ownership-to-toy-ownership-513097447?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow
2013-06-14 00:33:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


It's a crime more people aren't talking about this game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg

Seriously, Monolith Soft's last title "Xenoblade Chronicles" was amazing. I don't play many RPGs/JRPGs, but this looks like a real winner to me. I'm not all about one game selling a console, but this one just looks so engrossing and awesome, and could have me playing hours on end, like Xenoblade. (Please please please give it the Off-TV play feature, that would really make me an addict. xD)
2013-06-14 00:38:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


It's a crime more people aren't talking about this game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg

Seriously, Monolith Soft's last title "Xenoblade Chronicles" was amazing. I don't play many RPGs/JRPGs, but this looks like a real winner to me. I'm not all about one game selling a console, but this one just looks so engrossing and awesome, and could have me playing hours on end, like Xenoblade. (Please please please give it the Off-TV play feature, that would really make me an addict. xD)

I've never really heard of Zenoblade, but I think this game looks really cool. It's been said to be a spiritual successor.
2013-06-14 02:24:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I've never really heard of Zenoblade, but I think this game looks really cool. It's been said to be a spiritual successor.

Xenoblade was a Wii-exclusive title developed by Monolith Soft. Basically, people threw over tables and kept spamming Nintendo to release it in America after an English version for the game had already been created and localized for Europe. Xenoblade was actually one of three big Wii-exclusive JRPGS people wanted to be released in the U.S., in a fan project called "Operation Rainfall." Nintendo eventually released Xenoblade in the U.S., but the problem was that it was a very limited release, and was a Gamestop-exclusive title. Thus, it's pretty rare, and can go for over a hundred bucks on ebay. I was lucky enough to pick up a copy at a very affordable price from Gamestop a little while back, which I guess is pretty rare now. Anywho though, the whole operation was a success, and all three of the Wii JRPGs are available in the U.S.

I do hope "X" gets some good marketing later down the line when it's closer to release. Nintendo must know people want JRPGs ported over, considering all the love for Xenoblade, and The Last Story's surprising success. I just hope they don't leave X in the shadows and then decide to cut back on imports because sales didn't go the way they hoped.

(Oh, and my apologies, I do believe Ayneh mentioned this game earlier. So shame on all the rest of you. )
2013-06-14 02:55:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Xenoblade was a Wii-exclusive title developed by Monolith Soft. Basically, people threw over tables and kept spamming Nintendo to release it in America after an English version for the game had already been created and localized for Europe. Xenoblade was actually one of three big Wii-exclusive JRPGS people wanted to be released in the U.S., in a fan project called "Operation Rainfall." Nintendo eventually released Xenoblade in the U.S., but the problem was that it was a very limited release, and was a Gamestop-exclusive title. Thus, it's pretty rare, and can go for over a hundred bucks on ebay. I was lucky enough to pick up a copy at a very affordable price from Gamestop a little while back, which I guess is pretty rare now. Anywho though, the whole operation was a success, and all three of the Wii JRPGs are available in the U.S.

I do hope "X" gets some good marketing later down the line when it's closer to release. Nintendo must know people want JRPGs ported over, considering all the love for Xenoblade, and The Last Story's surprising success. I just hope they don't leave X in the shadows and then decide to cut back on imports because sales didn't go the way they hoped.

(Oh, and my apologies, I do believe Ayneh mentioned this game earlier. So shame on all the rest of you. )

Ah. Also the game kinda reminds me of Lost Planet with it's creatures and the mechs (btw: LOVE the second one).
2013-06-14 03:20:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Ok guys, I managed to play some of the Best Buy E3 games... if anyone has any questions about MK8, or 3D World, feel free to just ask.2013-06-14 04:00:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


Ok guys, I managed to play some of the Best Buy E3 games... if anyone has any questions about MK8, or 3D World, feel free to just ask.

I have a question about Mario Kart: how are the Wii U Gamepad controls?
2013-06-14 07:26:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I have a question about Mario Kart: how are the Wii U Gamepad controls?

You can either use the Gamepad to steer, or press a button on the touch screen to go to regular ol' analog stick.

Pretty much the same as MK7.
2013-06-14 19:04:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


You can either use the Gamepad to steer, or press a button on the touch screen to go to regular ol' analog stick.

Pretty much the same as MK7.

I meant like does the gamepad control well or stick with a Wii remote?
2013-06-14 20:04:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I meant like does the gamepad control well or stick with a Wii remote?

Honestly, I never used the Wiimote while playing MKWii. If you want to go full motion controls, I'd stick with Wiimote, but if you want to win go with Gamepad with analog.
2013-06-14 20:16:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


@theswweet: How was the level design for what you were able to play? Even though MKWii gets a lot of backlash, I really liked what they did with a lot of the tracks in the game, so hopefully the new one has some more hectic level design integrated in.2013-06-14 20:24:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


@theswweet: How was the level design for what you were able to play? Even though MKWii gets a lot of backlash, I really liked what they did with a lot of the tracks in the game, so hopefully the new one has some more hectic level design integrated in.

Have you played Mario Kart 7? The track design reminded me (well, obviously) of MK7 and MKWii, but I did sense a bit of Fzero. Some of the tracks I saw were intense, and the new gravity mechanics just makes everything even more hectic...

I especially liked the ghost house track. Fun as ****.
2013-06-14 20:28:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


Have you played Mario Kart 7? The track design reminded me (well, obviously) of MK7 and MKWii, but I did sense a bit of Fzero. Some of the tracks I saw were intense, and the new gravity mechanics just makes everything even more hectic...

I especially liked the ghost house track. Fun as ****.

I haven't played 7, just MKWii. Glad to hear it's a lot of fun though! Which levels besides the ghost house track were available to play? In the trailer, I saw the Princess Peach Castle Mobius Loop Track, some Isle Delfino-ish track, a desert-themed track, a temple track, and some kind of candyland-looking track.
2013-06-14 20:48:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


I haven't played 7, just MKWii. Glad to hear it's a lot of fun though! Which levels besides the ghost house track were available to play? In the trailer, I saw the Princess Peach Castle Mobius Loop Track, some Isle Delfino-ish track, a desert-themed track, a temple track, and some kind of candyland-looking track.

The first two you mentioned were the only other tracks available to race.
2013-06-14 20:52:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


I have another question: don't you get a Luigi hat there for winning a game of Mario Kart 8?2013-06-14 22:32:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


I have another question: don't you get a Luigi hat there for winning a game of Mario Kart 8?

No, anyone can get the Luigi hat - though it's a cheap Styrofoam hat.

You get this (http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/nintendo-e3-2013-best-buy-luigi-loot-coin-1.jpg) for winning MK8.
2013-06-14 22:58:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


No, anyone can get the Luigi hat - though it's a cheap Styrofoam hat.

You get this (http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/nintendo-e3-2013-best-buy-luigi-loot-coin-1.jpg) for winning MK8.

Neat.

Oh, by the way, please don't tell me there were any blue shells used in the game, were there? I'd love it if they removed that power-up from the game..
2013-06-15 02:58:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Neat.

Oh, by the way, please don't tell me there were any blue shells used in the game, were there? I'd love it if they removed that power-up from the game..

There were no Blue Shells in the demo I played. That is all that I can say.
2013-06-16 01:00:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


I went to the event yesterday. It was great, though I had to wait in line for 2 and a half hours, but on the bright side I tried out Mario Kart 8! I didn't win though, but I at least got a Luigi hat and a cool booklet.2013-06-16 21:27:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Ehh... I dont want to spend $300 or how much it is for a new console when the PS3 was perfectly fine. Ill stick with PC since I got a new one anyways.2013-06-16 23:32:00

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DominationMags
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