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title says it all

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Never mind. i found the other thread posted by spaff. Thanks for the heads up guys, in a play create share centered universe its nice to see we keep up common courtesies like communication. a simple heads up would've been great.
Sad to say this is hardly the first time Ive logged in to find my threads completely obliterated. Thanks-

2013-05-09 20:56:00

Author:
Wolfdre

Posts: 218

Unfortunately the deletion of posts and threads without warning or explanation is something you have to learn to live with here. And overwhelming inactivity from some of the most important staff members.
It's all part of the fun, family-friendly environment that is LBPC!

2013-05-10 10:57:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Never mind. i found the other thread posted by spaff. Thanks for the heads up guys, in a play create share centered universe its nice to see we keep up common courtesies like communication. a simple heads up would've been great.
Sad to say this is hardly the first time Ive logged in to find my threads completely obliterated. Thanks-

Sarcasm isn't really necessary. Common courtesies go both ways.
If you had searched on the subject or checked the Tearaway forum (since the thread was about Tearaway) you would have found the existing thread.
We do spend a lot of time contacting members about deleted or moved threads if its felt they are not aware of the site rules.

2013-05-10 13:39:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777

Posts: 3458

Sarcasm isn't really necessary. Common courtesies go both ways.
If you had searched on the subject or checked the Tearaway forum (since the thread was about Tearaway) you would have found the existing thread.
We do spend a lot of time contacting members about deleted or moved threads if its felt they are not aware of the site rules.

Unfortunately the sarcasm is deemed necessary considering the frequency of this matter, and there was no existing thread at the time of me posting it. For a second i figured being a part of the team around here awarded me a shred of credibility. Apparently i was mistaken as i have never received any sort of notification regarding the removal of my threads/posts, nor have i ever gone to such lengths as to post inappropriate content that may be considered for such an act.

Its now come to the point where i have to post a feedback thread regarding this experience and its met with this high-horse attitude and an indication that i'm the one at fault here by not exercising courtesies? Honestly you were the last user i would've expected that from. With all of this in mind i should've posted about this issue long ago.

Before any of this is further misconstrued i should point out that im not being sarcastic, it genuinely sucks that there is absolutely no communication regarding these matters. You may claim otherwise but i have never been privy to it.

2013-05-10 14:53:00

Author:
Wolfdre

Posts: 218

2013-05-10 15:11:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777

Posts: 3458

That is unfortune that happend to you , wish i had the money to buy it my self, cant afford vita at the momment.

2013-05-10 15:14:00

Author:
Brutal

Posts: 184

Unfortunately the sarcasm is deemed necessary considering the frequency of this matter, and there was no existing thread at the time of me posting it. For a second i figured being a part of the team around here awarded me a shred of credibility. Apparently i was mistaken as i have never received any sort of notification regarding the removal of my threads/posts, nor have i ever gone to such lengths as to post inappropriate content that may be considered for such an act.

Its now come to the point where i have to post a feedback thread regarding this experience and its met with this high-horse attitude and an indication that i'm the one at fault here by not exercising courtesies? Honestly you were the last user i would've expected that from. With all of this in mind i should've posted about this issue long ago.

Before any of this is further misconstrued i should point out that im not being sarcastic, it genuinely sucks that there is absolutely no communication regarding these matters. You may claim otherwise but i have never been privy to it.

If you only knew the amount of double posts, unnecessary bumps, duplicate threads, requests for locks, reported posts that the staff has to deal with at any given time, besides our own reporting to each other so we are on track with any issues going on, you might think differently. ..by the time we handle an issue, sometimes it takes quite awhile to fill out all the necessary stuff behind the scenes.

Now you wish us to send you a nice note saying why we deleted... Well, the same consideration could be asked for you to search a bit knowing that such a hot topic as that would have already had a thread from Mm.

In my time here, it has always been accepted and the policy that if you create a duplicate thread, it will either get deleted or if a ton of posts on each, possibly merged.

Sorry if this sounds cold and mean, but we are volunteers just like you and we do just as we always have to keep LBPC nice and tidy. If you feel we have overstepped our bounds in continuing this practice of removing duplicate thread and not sending a heads up, please by all means send Taffey a note.

2013-05-10 15:16:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

We do spend a lot of time contacting members about deleted or moved threads if its felt they are not aware of the site rules.

I haven't had a lot of experience with the current moderating team but in the past I have found that many of my posts have been deleted without anyone contacting me at all. And in my list of infractions only one person has ever stated which post broke the rules. The rest of the time I've had to guess exactly what it is I've done, which makes it difficult to avoid making the same mistake in the future. I'm not complaining, especially since none of those members are still staff, but it's just something I think is important. If you don't tell people what they've done wrong, all you're doing is causing confusion, rather than preventing it from happening again. The only time I've had a proper, thorough explanation of an infraction on LBPC, I was banned for 3 weeks and so didn't get to see it until then.

please by all means send Taffey a note.

This is, and has always been, another major issue here. The LBPC administrator is always one of the most inactive members. Back in the CC days I had to spend weeks sending messages round all the moderators before CC ever replied to me. And as awesome as Taffey is, he's just as bad. I see mods saying "donate to get those features right now!" when people ask about custom titles or whatever. But I donated 2 months ago and obviously nothing has come of it yet. I donated because I wanted to support the site, not because I wanted donor status or anything. But imagine a new member comes along who does want to donate to get these extra features without having to post loads. If, two months later, nothing has changed and they could have earned the upgrades just by posting, they might not be so understanding.

Again, I'm not complaining, I love this place and everyone here but sometimes I feel like the moderator team is a little lacking sometimes. This is a decent sized forum nowadays and it needs experienced, professional, and active staff members. The way things are now would be perfectly fine for a small zetaboards forum with a couple of hundred members. But it's not enough for a forum like this, IMO.

2013-05-10 17:00:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

I haven't had a lot of experience with the current moderating team but in the past I have found that many of my posts have been deleted without anyone contacting me at all. And in my list of infractions only one person has ever stated which post broke the rules. The rest of the time I've had to guess exactly what it is I've done, which makes it difficult to avoid making the same mistake in the future. I'm not complaining, especially since none of those members are still staff, but it's just something I think is important. If you don't tell people what they've done wrong, all you're doing is causing confusion, rather than preventing it from happening again. The only time I've had a proper, thorough explanation of an infraction on LBPC, I was banned for 3 weeks and so didn't get to see it until then.

This is, and has always been, another major issue here. The LBPC administrator is always one of the most inactive members. Back in the CC days I had to spend weeks sending messages round all the moderators before CC ever replied to me. And as awesome as Taffey is, he's just as bad. I see mods saying "donate to get those features right now!" when people ask about custom titles or whatever. But I donated 2 months ago and obviously nothing has come of it yet. I donated because I wanted to support the site, not because I wanted donor status or anything. But imagine a new member comes along who does want to donate to get these extra features without having to post loads. If, two months later, nothing has changed and they could have earned the upgrades just by posting, they might not be so understanding.

Again, I'm not complaining, I love this place and everyone here but sometimes I feel like the moderator team is a little lacking sometimes. This is a decent sized forum nowadays and it needs experienced, professional, and active staff members. The way things are now would be perfectly fine for a small zetaboards forum with a couple of hundred members. But it's not enough for a forum like this, IMO.

Well... somewhat off topic, but since you brought it up.

Two of your infractions have links to the posts in question on your list. The rest were profile violations of some sort. Not sure offhand if those carry a link or not, especially on the one to a duplicate account. So I can see one might have been a reason to question, but I am sure you could have asked that mod.

Currently, we take letting folks know what they did wrong very seriously. That is if it is indeed bad. Some have been completely delusional and will never see their mistakes even if they were standing in the building they set on fire, but that is a totally different story.

Sometimes if you don't hit the buttons in the right places the links don't show up, but you do get the reason why. However again, we currently try very hard to insure any infractions carry the link to the thread. In my early days I may have screwed that up a bit as I wasn't aware of certain things, but not to worry.. I have more than enough PM's with those folks that they knew exactly where it was. They may still not agree with it, but they know where.

As far as Taffey... yup, he has not been around much recently since I was brought on board. He is building a new house and has been horribly busy at work. Life sucks sometimes.. if you notice, he hasn't been making any more Podcasts either. Same reasons.

If we need him, I can get in touch with him quite instantly and have at times in the past months. Since you mentioned your donor status, I can remind him of that right now to see if we can't get that squared away asap.

I'm glad you love it here. We all love it here or we would have volunteered to do this job, but we are humans. We are not perfect. We are not robots. We have feelings, challenges, other commitments, tasks to do, and all outside of this forum.

As far as active, heck.. until a week ago or so, I was pegged on 100% since I was made a mod. Lady_Luck is 99.8% now and all for $0 per year!!

If you have concerns that Taffey has not responded share it with us and we will relay a message as soon as we can. ...or are you inferring we are not really professional and experienced to do our jobs? If that is what you feel.. that is pretty darn hurtful.

To restate the original complaint.. I just cannot understand why deleting a duplicate thread, something horribly normal that is never really reported unless it gets bothersome or spammy, why we are to take time to let someone know. Historically it never has before. Many of those back in the day, I was the one reporting and poof!! ..it was gone.

As far as the necessary tasks. We obviously found the other thread to confirm our suspicions, had to come back to the duplicate, delete and though you may not see it add our reasons... All of which takes a bit of time and effort, but now we are being asked that we now need to send out gift wrapped presents to get rid of duplicates.

To make it real easy, we could send out a 0 point infraction warning.

Boy.. think of the screaming that would start. lol Hey.. you would know! So maybe be careful what you wish for!! Personally I would rather leave it as is and if you ever have a question, we will be sure and let you know. Otherwise assume it was a duplicate, especially in this case with us auto creating a thread from an Mm feed.

2013-05-10 19:18:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

This is, and has always been, another major issue here. The LBPC administrator is always one of the most inactive members. Back in the CC days I had to spend weeks sending messages round all the moderators before CC ever replied to me. And as awesome as Taffey is, he's just as bad. I see mods saying "donate to get those features right now!" when people ask about custom titles or whatever. But I donated 2 months ago and obviously nothing has come of it yet. I donated because I wanted to support the site, not because I wanted donor status or anything. But imagine a new member comes along who does want to donate to get these extra features without having to post loads. If, two months later, nothing has changed and they could have earned the upgrades just by posting, they might not be so understanding.Ah, such is the curse of an administrator. One must be both responsible and have large quantities of free time... Well, one out of two ain't bad.

Although I won't make excuses, I do feel the need to explain myself a bit. As jww already mentioned, my wife and I have been in the process of relocating for quite some time now - luckily things have hit a lull of sorts as we wait for our new house to be built. Work has also been slightly on the north end of insane, but I still find time to pay the bills and keep a wary (if regrettably distant) eye on things. I owe quite a bit to the tireless vigilance of the entire moderation team, Lady_Luck and jww in particular.

As for your donor status.... fiddlesticks! And here I thought I had actually stayed ahead of the game there. So I moved you to the donor usergroup the very day I saw your donation come in (thank you by the way!) and, in a fit of newbness, neglected to update the display usergroup accordingly. :blush: Looks like I did the same thing for everyone who donated in April. *facepalm to self* All should be remedied now though!

2013-05-11 02:43:00

Author:
Taffey

Posts: 3187

Ah, such is the curse of an administrator. One must be both responsible and have large quantities of free time... Well, one out of two ain't bad.

Again... we are human. We try our best, but sometimes we space stuff. (especially Taffey

) ..and so back to the original point on the thread topic.

You really want us to do "more stuff" so we can maybe forget something else? Sounds nice for you all, but again here is my point, especially if some of you think there is not enough of us.

Why not all you folks do a bit more due diligence on remembering not to double post, eliminate the needlessly bumping, creating spammy posts, effectively utilizing the multi quote to your advantage, or simply using editing, as well as searching a bit more to insure you don't create a duplicate thread? There are certainly more of you than us. Kinda like that old saying "Do you really need your Mom to pick up after you your entire life?" We are here to do a service for the love of this site and for you all. We don't mind what we do, but at times especially recently, it has gotten a bit out of hand, especially double posting.

Why.. if everyone picked up after themselves we might be able to relax a bit and simply do our job when the nasty boys come to town with their nasty guns drawn where we have to get in those verbal shooting matches via PM's right before we escort them outta town for the good of you all.

...but also we are open to suggestions. Sending you all a message if we delete a duplicate thread probably isn't going to be one.

For example.. just like someone on a Spotlight thread telling the team how they screwed up on a pick. You all love that right? ...especially the really heated ones where we have to come in and calm everyone down and possibly started editing and deleting posts?

Yeah... now about those special delivery messages when we delete a thread? Give us a break mmmm' kay?

All the best!

2013-05-11 14:21:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

2013-05-11 19:11:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

With the number of users shrinking each user represents a greater percentage of the active userbase.

I think it's worthwhile for a moderator to meditate on what that means, both in terms of their approach to individual incidents and the impact of their own regular posting activity.

I do think quite a bit about both in handling incidents, the posts I make no matter what site I am on and everything I say all day every day. I've tried to live my life that way for a very long time. In essence, I really just try to lead by example. Even before I recently became a mod. I try not to force my will or thoughts at others as that really doesn't work, but I will speak my mind or express an opinion if I feel the need.

I truly hope all those that post here do the same as long as they follow the rules. However there are those occasions where members sadly decide the rules don't apply or forget that all viewable portions of the site are subject to those rules. That is when I or my fellow staff members have to do things we may really wish not to do. Sometimes even to people we really like, but still part of what we agree to do per the rules and role we have accepted. What is sad is when some folks cannot accept that fate much like later screaming about a cop handing them out a ticket for blatantly running a red light. Are they actually mad they did it, or just mad they got caught? Some just feel it ok to cheese those things massively, but red lights much like rules on this site have a reason.

Some might think self moderation would be the way to go, but as this is a family oriented site I doubt that would work unless everyone adhered to those rules and really worked to police things. The problem is over the years we've seen both positive and negative rep abused, padding rep, others playing a points game to stay just shy of getting perma banned, as well as long time members posting things that had to be either edited or deleted. Plus as some might say, self moderation could turn into a take on Children of the Corn or maybe even a terrible playground where just all the biggest baddest bullies hang out thus driving out all the really good folks. We don't really want that either.

So for now we try and do the best we can... human as we are. We discuss things with the other mods and Taffey, many times using the report feature as sort of a sanity check to ask if anyone on our team feels this is ok or not before we even act. So yes, we really do think long and hard on everything. ...well, except spambots or those that come in here screaming obscenities right from the start. Those can be quite easy decisions to make. lol

2013-05-12 03:47:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

That wasn't what I was getting at in the previous post.

the posts I make no matter what site I am on
Since you have experience on other forums you already know what happens when there's a dwindling userbase with an active vanguard of mods. Your concerns about the bullies running the show become a reality in that situation.

I only write because I've seen this kind of thread by Wolfdre become inoculated in the forum culture once the moderators adopted the same stance displayed here. You don't even have to read this thread, the paragraphs of text are indicative enough.

2013-05-12 23:40:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

To be fair, if the current work load is too much, you could just get more workers. Not like you have too many at the moment.

Just saiyan (and no, not implying I should be one of them in case you take this as an implication of that.) I really have no stake in the matter one way or the other, so it doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but yeah.

2013-05-12 23:45:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Since you have experience on other forums you already know what happens when there's a dwindling userbase with an active vanguard of mods. Your concerns about the bullies running the show become a reality in that situation.

I only write because I've seen this kind of thread by Wolfdre become inoculated in the forum culture once the moderators adopted the same stance displayed here. You don't even have to read this thread, the paragraphs of text are indicative enough.

That is probably your perception and quite far from the truth. We are simply discussing this and letting you know how we see things. You see things differently.

Lets boil this down a bit.

Did we infract Wolfdre? No... He asked a question we answered. Actually he sorta posted a sarcastic jab and we answered, but no matter.
Should we give him special consideration for being on the Spotlight team? I don't think so.. do you? He made a duplicate thread.. he would rather us inform him than take a minute more and look around. ..or maybe he just made a mistake. No matter. It was dealt with the same way it has always been dealt with. No blood no foul. ..he just got upset about it which makes no sense to us. We don't do it with a gleam in our eye. It is more like having to empty the trash cans again. More work for us... but we don't get an attitude about it unless someone makes a huge habit of it. Then we have to start wondering if they need to get a warning or possibly an infraction.
You made a point... I made a point. Did you get an infraction or me yell at you telling you to go away? No.. I have been nice as heck. ..well as nice as I can be while running a fever and having bronchitis the past few days.
You want to discuss.. I am discussing. You want to comment, I will read and comment back. I simply don't buy into your vision of this brave new world order. The site is not going to magically have zero mods roaming around here unless you want to try buying the site from Taffey or talk him into that. Until then you are more than welcome to your opinion and we simply do our job as best we can.

What I find a bit amusing is your perception of a vanguard of mods where Cogmonkey is saying we have too few and an admin that is not ever around. You both cannot be correct. My opinion? Neither of you is correct.

...but you are more than welcome to discuss with me further via pm's or whatever. I really am quite easy to get along with. I simply love this site and love helping new and old creators alike with their creations and questions concerning getting better. I simply love LBP. You can search all my recent posts and find numerous occasions of that.

What is it you like here?

2013-05-13 00:18:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

@ Wolfdre...I understand your concern and your argument. I did the very same thing as you have here, but on another site. Bottom line, I was at fault, and searching around for my thread and asking questions resulted in my understanding the message very clearly. I neglected to read the "Rules". And, from the experience, I can guarantee I will never make that mistake twice. I believe, in all situations where we are at fault, it is best to accept that reality and hold ourselves accountable for our actions.

@ Ayneh...whether you mean to or not, you imply our Moderation staff are bullies. I have been an active member and contributor to this site since May of 2009, and I have never seen such behavior with our current Staff. What I have seen are individuals who give their time freely to this site, and do their best to maintain order and compliance with the Rules we all agreed to when we joined LBPC. There would be no need for Moderation in any society, if everyone behaved in a mature and respectful manner. The truth is, there are many individuals on this site that wish to not honor the boundaries that have been established. It is in our nature to challenge positions of authority and Rules, but to do so after freely accepting those Rules is suspect and contradictory. For this reason, I see no merit in your arguement; only bitterness and a desire to be controversial. I would recommend you determine what your unwavering position is, and whether or not it is in harmony with this site's Rules and it's family-oriented perspective.

This is simply my opinion, and is based on life experiences, an understanding of human behavior, and facts from observations of several hundred members of this site.

2013-05-13 01:02:00

Author:
RickRock_777

Posts: 1567

What I find a bit amusing is your perception of a vanguard of mods where Cogmonkey is saying we have too few and an admin that is not ever around. You both cannot be correct. My opinion? Neither of you is correct.

2013-05-14 07:09:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

I was writing about a potential situation in the future. It happens to many forums as the number of active users fall.

If the moderators don't adapt you'll see more threads like these down the road. It will create an unmanageable, divisive atmosphere.

Taking an unrelated user like me to task in bullet points about this minor incident, while writing snide things about a donating member like Wolfdre, is exasperating but outside my remit for first posting in this thread.

I understand and please forgive any misunderstanding. I wasn't taking you to task. In my mind I was simply was having a conversation as we really do want to hear ideas and thoughts from our members. If I sounded snide, I apologize as that was not the intent. Perhaps I didn't add enough smiley or other emoticons to convey my humor.

Anyway.. We are currently rethinking some of our rules as some are a bit outdated and due for a change. We are also discussing better ways to handle such things as duplicate threads that might make you all a bit happier and seem much more friendly. So please don't think we are unwilling to change.

Again, if there are any suggestions we really do want to hear from you. We want this to be a fun, energetic site filled with really bright, amazingly creative people. However keep in mind we still want this to be a family oriented site due to the range of ages we have here.

Oh and Rock, before you mention it, you are not getting your spam can.

2013-05-14 14:47:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

Listen i want to clear the air about this. I didnt expect to return here to find two pages worth of various issues but my point is this: After multiple threads silently vanish with zero communication as to why, i have to start questioning why im wasting my time crafting them.
Tearaway is MM's baby, i dont care if my thread existed for a week prior to the announcement of the goods, removing my post to make room for an official post is simply logical.
I was serious when i said this is hardly the first time.

..he just got upset about it which makes no sense to us.
You really cant see why after multiple threads disappearing i would feel like im wasting my time?
Ive been fine with whatever decisions are made around here since i joined. I still maintain i searched for a thread regarding the subject matter and posted in the "LBP News" section as a result of the "LBP costumes available", as was indicated in the thread title. No matter as whats done is done.

Should we give him special consideration for being on the Spotlight team? I don't think so.. do you?
Special consideration? If simply communicating with the other volunteer team members falls into special considerations than maybe that needs to be re approached. That is simply some backwards nonsense. I dont care what your position may be. In fact simply presenting it such a manner is quite ludicrous. Not to mention that this heavily contradicts the earlier indication that many users are contacted about these matters

Did we infract Wolfdre? No... He asked a question we answered. Actually he sorta posted a sarcastic jab and we answered, but no matter.
Like i previously indicated the sarcasm at that point was necessary due to the number of times this has happened. The jab is simply communicating my displeasure with this ordeal and like i said before i should've posted about this long ago. Perhaps aroundthe time i learned that Steven had my Slurpee shirt thread removed. The only reason i ever learned the truth about that was because i approached him about it. No one approached me with the news. At that point however i moved on with the thought that, "you guys know best and have the sites best interests at heart"

Guys the only thing i have to be upset about is the lack of communication. That and this new nonsense about it falling into special considerations. Other than that my experience here has been enjoyable.

2013-05-14 17:47:00

Author:
Wolfdre

Posts: 218

Listen i want to clear the air about this. I didnt expect to return here to find two pages worth of various issues but my point is this: After multiple threads silently vanish with zero communication as to why, i have to start questioning why im wasting my time crafting them.
Tearaway is MM's baby, i dont care if my thread existed for a week prior to the announcement of the goods, removing my post to make room for an official post is simply logical.
I was serious when i said this is hardly the first time.

We are sorry for any hard feelings encountered by you. We simply followed the rules and procedures that have always been done on this site. You and others calling it to our attention has made us rethink some things.

To insure we both understand, your thread was created AFTER the official Mm thread came out. It was simply removed as a duplicate thread as per the customs and rules of this site. We are now considering if maybe we should lock a thread such like this and add as a last post where the original is. Would that be satisfactory communication?

If you require a PM, that does not do anything for any other user finding such a thread and also later having found it missing. This way everyone could find the original thread that was first. i.e. One stop shopping. ..or maybe one stop and a hop. lol

If there were other posts on your thread, then we would merge those threads, adding it to the original, possibly leaving a merged thread alert for a period of time as yet to be determined.

So again, would this suffice in proper communications? The only issues we are wrestling with is a bevy of locked threads that some may feel quite confusing and untidy. We also don't feel having to PM everyone who creates a duplicate thread is a good idea as previously mentioned. It still leaves some in the dark. However we are open to suggestions. We just need something in place that we can all agree to. We honestly felt that what we were doing was fine, but since we have upset you on a few occasions, maybe that isn't the case. We want to do better not only for you, but for all our members.

Anyway... we regret any confusion or hard feelings. We want everyone to have fun here at feel like it is their home. Actually it is my hope that everyone to feel they have special consideration, but still treat everyone equal.

2013-05-14 19:00:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

It'd be great if moderation notification could be a more automated process with the most common issues having a little check box to send of pre set messages.

2013-05-14 19:20:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot

Posts: 6728

Would it be a major issue to initially lock the thread and have it delete after a certain period? This way the creator and others get notification, and shortly afterward the thread is gone, tidying things up?

2013-05-14 19:29:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

It'd be great if moderation notification could be a more automated process with the most common issues having a little check box to send of pre set messages.

Yes.. that would be great. However in the case of duplicate threads there isn't at least to my knowledge. Unless there is yet another add on we can get with vBulletin. I did quite a bit of looking, but didn't come up with anything at least yet. That is why we are hoping most effective process with the least steps that does the most for everyone concerned.

Would it be a major issue to initially lock the thread and have it delete after a certain period? This way the creator and others get notification, and shortly afterward the thread is gone, tidying things up?

That was what I was thinking as well. It wouldn't be automated, but after a week or so we could simply delete it. Again.. there might be some add on that vBulletin has that makes this a bit easier, but not being the owner I can't search their list of products on their main site. I can find stuff in yet another forum that other users have made, but that has not been an add on feature I can find.

Thanks for the ideas and feedback!

2013-05-14 20:11:00

Author:
jwwphotos

Posts: 11383

No hard feelings. I certainly don't require an apology from anyone, after all like you've stated your just doing your job.

Whats done is done.

I don't have any agreeable suggestions to rectify the issue considering how my earlier assumption of communicating was digested. Im aware of your workload as i'm no stranger to the internet myself and i'm certainly not interested in lighting a fire under anyone by increasing it.

In closing; i certainly did expect communication regarding the matter. Considering im not only a team member around here, but also a donator as someone has pointed out. To be met with such disregard by my fellow team members says alot. Can only imagine how this would've turned out if i was just a regular user. Guys i was invited to join what you've started here, and i accepted because i wanted to part of this team. Not the guy that gets let out of the basement every two weeks to write a few paragraphs.
Not communicating and then ^all this^ when i point it out sends a whole raft of mixed signals.

Consider my original post and all that follows creative feedback. Lets move on.

2013-05-14 20:39:00

Author:
Wolfdre

Posts: 218

I understand, but it does mean a lot to get your feedback on what course you would like us to consider. Please reread what I have purposed and give us a heads up.

However... thanks for your understanding. We wish to move on as well.. Sorry again for any hard feelings. We truly do appreciate you being a donor and all what you do for us on the Spotlight team. You guys have my utmost respect and admiration.

...and did I mention a really snazzy dresser? lol

2013-05-14 20:48:00

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