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PS3 gets the shaft on DLC?
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| Hey, One of my buddies was telling me how he heard GTA4 was getting DLC for the PC and xbox360.... but non for PS3.. He told me how the lead dev from fallout 3 announced this awesome expansion and a ton of new content and he announced it would be DLC for xbox360 and pc....but not PS3 Pretty sad and disppointing for me, I figured if it would be out for ps3 they would just say for all consoles, IDK why sony would turn them down if they did. Anyone have any other info | 2009-01-23 21:35:00 Author: Hamsalad  Posts: 2551 |
| I don't think it's because Sony turned them down... more like the developers only releasing them for the 360 just cause. Don't know WHY... though I have heard that Microsoft may have bought it out, but IDK :/. | 2009-01-23 21:36:00 Author: RockSauron  Posts: 10882 |
| hmm great theory about buying it out, your probably right cause he just told me about exclusive bio shock DLC for PS3. its too bad these guys have to war it out and make the consumers suffer and not be able to enjoy this DLC. Its not going to make me go out and buy a 360 because i cant get the DLC for it on PS3 it just makes me mad | 2009-01-23 21:42:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Big money secures exclusive DLC. | 2009-01-23 21:43:00 Author: Rabid-Coot  Posts: 6728 |
| Big money secures exclusive DLC. that. Microsoft payed to get the DLC. | 2009-01-23 22:00:00 Author: oldage  Posts: 2824 |
| Microsoft would've had to buy them out.. Which probably would'vemeant paying more than they were expecting to make on the DLC off the PS3. | 2009-01-23 22:29:00 Author: DrunkMiffy  Posts: 2758 |
| Most gaming developers use box's to showcase there game, because of the better online system, I'm not saying this is the reason there getting DLC.... B/C the p.c is getting some. So yea, Fat wallets i guess | 2009-01-23 22:34:00 Author: Thee-Flash  Posts: 3154 |
| February 17. A brand new story. A new character; biker gang member. A new map. Big disappointment for PS3 users...  | 2009-01-23 22:41:00 Author: TheArmedReaper  Posts: 1543 |
| February 17. A brand new story. A new character; biker gang member. A new map. Big disappointment for PS3 users... ...? is that for Fallout 3 a new MAP and STORY..! omg | 2009-01-23 22:44:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
No. GTA. But if Fallout 3 gets brainwashed into Microsofts evil scheme it could happen too... | 2009-01-23 22:46:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| No. GTA. But if Fallout 3 gets brainwashed into Microsofts evil scheme it could happen too... dude they are coming out w/ a lot more stuff for fallout 3 its what ****** me off. new areas. a new simulation of the chinese taking over alaska. new weapons....its madening in fallout they are removing the level cap and also changing the ending SPOILER: so you live | 2009-01-23 22:47:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| Exclusive DLC is the new 3rd Party exclusive. MS payed for them. I'm not too upset. the only DLC I've ever bought was for LBP and Warhawk. The new DLC for GTAIV doesn't catch my interest though. | 2009-01-23 22:48:00 Author: LightGrenades  Posts: 218 |
Also, there wouldn't be DLC for GTA IV PC, only X360  | 2009-01-23 22:49:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824 |
| dude they are coming out w/ a lot more stuff for fallout 3 its what ****** me off. new areas. a new simulation of the chinese taking over alaska. new weapons....its madening in fallout they are removing the level cap and also changing the ending SPOILER: so you live Aww dude, that's not fair | 2009-01-23 22:51:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| Aww dude, that's not fair i know im so mad about it, i really hope they give it to the ps3 too. it sounds like theres going to be A LOT of awesome stuff. I would compare it to the shivering isle's for oblivion. except i think you will be able to travel between these new areas they are adding and the simulation will prob be like tranquil lane | 2009-01-23 22:56:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| That's microsoft for you. And then some. *dododododoo! I'm lovin' it!* | 2009-01-23 22:58:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| i know I'm so mad about it, i really hope they give it to the PS too. it sounds like theres going to be A LOT of awesome stuff. I would compare it to the shivering isle's for oblivion. except i think you will be able to travel between these new areas they are adding and the simulation will prob be like tranquil lane Nope never going to happen, Bethesda said it them selves | 2009-01-23 23:00:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| What game are we even talking about anymore? Fallout or GTA? This thread is steering itself off-topic... :/ | 2009-01-23 23:02:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| I'm not sure how much MS paid Bethesda, but I recall hearing they paid Rockstar $50 million to keep the DLC off the PS3. I don't really care about GTA, but it's still a shame someone would release for all consoles and then give the shaft to one for DLC. That's why I...erm..."bought" Fallout 3 again for PC. | 2009-01-23 23:06:00 Author: BassDeluxe  Posts: 984 |
| I'm not sure how much MS paid Bethesda, but I recall hearing they paid Rockstar $50 million to keep the DLC off the PS3. I don't really care about GTA, but it's still a shame someone would release for all consoles and then give the shaft to one for DLC. That's why I...erm..."bought" Fallout 3 again for PC. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't care about either, but I still wish they didn't just abandon their fans so >_<. And what do you mean by bought...? :arg::arg: | 2009-01-23 23:07:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| Microsoft don't know what they're starting... MUHAHAHA!/caps >=D | 2009-01-23 23:07:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| What game are we even talking about anymore? Fallout or GTA? This thread is steering itself off-topic... :/ >.> who made Fallout 3, bethsda who made gta rockstargames, who were we talking about..? Bethsda and this topic is about dlc and what are we talking about CLUE: DLC. | 2009-01-23 23:08:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| And what do you mean by bought...? I'm sure you know what I mean. I'm also sure we aren't supposed to discuss that here. | 2009-01-23 23:08:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984 |
| >.> who made Fallout 3, bethsda who made gta rockstargames, who were we talking about..? Bethsda and this topic is about dlc and what are we talking about CLUE: DLC. ...Sorry... ;_; I'm sure you know what I mean. I'm also sure we aren't supposed to discuss that here. Why's that?.. | 2009-01-23 23:12:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| I'm sure you know what I mean. I'm also sure we aren't supposed to discuss that here. As long as it's on the lines of DLC it's fine lol chaza it's fine | 2009-01-23 23:12:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| As long as it's on the lines of DLC it's fine lol chaza it's fine Who the hell's chaza? | 2009-01-23 23:17:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| Who the hell's chaza? i call people from there psn names, your's is chaza right? please don't tell me i got it wrong | 2009-01-23 23:19:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| Well it is chaza but my name's Jamie. Chaza = Charlie, my brother. I don't even know why we agreed with the psn id being his name as I have most of the power over the PS3... :/ | 2009-01-23 23:23:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| Well it is chaza but my name's Jamie. Chaza = Charlie, my brother. I don't even know why we agreed with the psn id being his name as I have most of the power over the PS3... :/ Why not have one account each? | 2009-01-23 23:29:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728 |
| I've tried, but I prefer to use the chaza profile as I've bought alot of games on it and I'm not bothered to convert my friends list to another... | 2009-01-23 23:35:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543 |
| Nope never going to happen, Bethesda said it them selves what exactly did they say wasnt going to happen? and i agree they shouldnt release the game on all consoles if they arnt going to release the DLC for all thats pretty unfair and cruel. | 2009-01-23 23:54:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| They said no dlc for ps3 >.> | 2009-01-23 23:56:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| i know its BS, it makes me even not want to buy fallout 4 when they make it...even though i prob will anyway | 2009-01-24 00:04:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| WOW dude....Don't say such crazy things..!!!!! | 2009-01-24 00:15:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| ya i guess if they end up NOT releasing I'll just need to get a new computer like i was going to anyway and start buying my games for PC | 2009-01-24 00:18:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| i heard from the grape vine, you can run a business | 2009-01-24 00:21:00 Author: Thee-Flash Posts: 3154 |
| WHAT?!!? no way in fallout you heard w/ the new DLC they let you run a business? that would be sick | 2009-01-24 00:28:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| If you look at this months Game Informer magazine there is an article discussing console sales; Unfortunately, PS3 is getting killed by everyone and almost by the PS2. If the numbers are not there in the user base it really hurts the business case for developing PS3 content...i.e., there are x number of consoles, and y% will buy the game, and z% will buy DLC...if the total users is not high enough there just isn't a business case to develop the content. PS3 price is really hurting it in this area, which is going to impact the games and DLC we will get from all the game studios. This is an economic decision and for Sony to venture down the pay to play path would cost them too much to make up for the lack of console market share. | 2009-01-24 00:39:00 Author: Mattrick  Posts: 214 |
| If you look at this months Game Informer magazine there is an article discussing console sales; Unfortunately, PS3 is getting killed by everyone and almost by the PS2. If the numbers are not there in the user base it really hurts the business case for developing PS3 content...i.e., there are x number of consoles, and y% will buy the game, and z% will buy DLC...if the total users is not high enough there just isn't a business case to develop the content. PS3 price is really hurting it in this area, which is going to impact the games and DLC we will get from all the game studios. This is an economic decision and for Sony to venture down the pay to play path would cost them too much to make up for the lack of console market share. very wise input mattrick. I think you are deffinitly onto something with those 3 variables that could very well be it. I'm not sure exactly how much work it is to convert it to different systems but if you are correct in your reasonnig it must be quite a bit. But if its not THAT hard then its probably the microsoft buyout theory | 2009-01-24 00:45:00 Author: Hamsalad Posts: 2551 |
| DLC is extremely cheap to port and yes the PS3 sales situation doesn't help devs/publishers into porting. In fact, it's a mix of everything : -If the devs don't have much time to port everywhere, they will sacrifice the place where they lose the less sales (PS3) -Microsoft IS paying ALOT exclusivities this gen. Sony said they aren't interested in those business practices anymore (it's stupid but they decided to stay third in the race I guess). If the PS3 was selling more than the 360, Microsoft wouldn't even be able to secure exclusives. Also, Rockstar said long ago their will be DLC for GTA4 on PS3 but just not the 2 exclusive 360 episodes. Those 2 episodes of DLC exclusive to the 360 version where announced even before the launch of the game itself. . | 2009-01-24 00:57:00 Author: RangerZero  Posts: 3901 |
| -Microsoft IS paying ALOT exclusivities this gen. Sony said they aren't interested in those business practices anymore (it's stupid but they decided to stay third in the race I guess). The $3 billion black monolith we all like to call the PS3 is the reason for that. Sony lost all the money they made on the PS2. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They lower the price, they lose tons more money, if they don't they lose market share and DLC and stuff. They compensate by focusing on 1st party games. I hope things change next gen though, they can come through with a powerful system again for cheap if they re-use tech (cell, more memory, blu-ray etc.) and maybe this stupid 'dlc game' will die. | 2009-01-24 01:29:00 Author: LightGrenades Posts: 218 |
| First off: i know its BS, it makes me even not want to buy fallout 4 when they make it...even though i prob will anyway Fallout 4 will not happen for quite some time. From what I understand, they are developing a new IP right now, and after that it's likely they will make TES5. Sony is doing some things for exclusives. They are letting exclusives(Uncharted) develop Home spaces for free whereas nonexclusives(Far Cry 2) have to pay for them. That might be all right now, not really sure. Really, what I think Sony should do is advertise a bit more and take out some of the extras from the PS3 and sell a cheaper version. Possibly even strip the Bluray and replace it with a normal DVD player, anything to get it down to $200-$250. Think Xbox 360 Arcade, aka the joke Xbox 360. | 2009-01-24 02:57:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984 |
| dude they are coming out w/ a lot more stuff for fallout 3 its what ****** me off. new areas. a new simulation of the chinese taking over alaska. new weapons....its madening in fallout they are removing the level cap and also changing the ending SPOILER: so you live Ohhh man!!!!! I know I'm probably the only one who hasn't finished the game but please use actual spoiler tags before giving away an ending | 2009-01-24 04:33:00 Author: OverWork  Posts: 873 |
| Ohhh man!!!!! I know I'm probably the only one who hasn't finished the game but please use actual spoiler tags before giving away an ending I haven't either, and it spoiled it for me just now too when I read the quote. | 2009-01-24 04:40:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984 |
| Really, what I think Sony should do is advertise a bit more and take out some of the extras from the PS3 and sell a cheaper version. Possibly even strip the Bluray and replace it with a normal DVD player, anything to get it down to $200-$250. Think Xbox 360 Arcade, aka the joke Xbox 360. Problem is, there isn't anything they can remove at this point. First off, ALL PS3 games are made for Blu-ray discs, which is why there are about 15 BD logos on the cases. Removing that, there is no PS3. They've removed PS2 backwards compatibility, they've removed the memory card readers, they've removed 2 USB ports, reworked the heat system, they've removed just about everything extra that wasn't needed. They also need a HDD, with around 6 gigs of space minimum to help with loading, caching, and streaming purposes. Their only hopes are a more streamlined manufacturing system and die shrinks. Cell processor and RSX graphics chips are 60nm/60nm, and are going down to 45nm/45nm by the end of the year. The smaller they get, the less expensive they are; more are produced at a time for a cheaper cost, they don't take up as much space leading to motherboard shrinkage, leading to less heat produced, leading to fewer parts needed to cool and run the system, leading to a smaller form factor. It's the only way things get cheaper. Sony are fantastic with hardware revisions though. The PSTwo 'slim' has gotten slimmer over the last couple revisions, and no one would have expected to see the PS2, which was a monster when it was first released, to the size it is now. | 2009-01-24 05:01:00 Author: LightGrenades Posts: 218 |
| MS bought it with 50 million dollars for exclusivity.:kz: | 2009-01-24 05:03:00 Author: sjbluedog24  Posts: 80 |
| http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/01/24/exclusive-ps3-dlc-soon/ Well Sony have bought some exclusive Mirrors Edge DLC. | 2009-01-25 01:34:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728 |
| Good for them. I guess they've finally realized they should look at what MS is doing and learn from it. They're in the hole so much from last year though, I wonder if they can really afford to do stuff like that? @LightGrenades: Lol, I didn't even think about the games being blu-rays when I posted that. >.> | 2009-01-25 01:40:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984 |
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