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PS4 to be unveiled February 20th?

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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/01/31/see-the-future/

What ELSE can this be?
2013-01-31 23:26:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


What ELSE can this be?

Some other dissapointing crap followed by another teaser and fresh hype.
2013-01-31 23:32:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I'm hoping that it is the PS4, cause what else could it possibly be?2013-01-31 23:40:00

Author:
amoney1999
Posts: 1202


Some other dissapointing crap followed by another teaser and fresh hype.

I'm giving Sony some credit that they'd realize what this is hinting towards, and not intentionally antagonizing their fanbase.

I mean, a big reveal with nothing but Playstation symbols in the teaser? the only other thing it could be is a general Playstation crossover game a'la All Stars, but when you put this together with the fact that all Sony PS3 games are being released before May this year...
2013-01-31 23:42:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Interesting, Rocksauron! There may be something that goes deeper than this here. Hope it's something legen- wait for it... -DARY!2013-01-31 23:47:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


I'm giving Sony some credit that they'd realize what this is hinting towards, and not intentionally antagonizing their fanbase.

I mean, a big reveal with nothing but Playstation symbols in the teaser? the only other thing it could be is a general Playstation crossover game a'la All Stars, but when you put this together with the fact that all Sony PS3 games are being released before May this year...

I just have this horrible feeling that they're going to use the fact that we know new hardware is coming to get the attention for something else first.

Probably is PS4 but I'm so used to announcement of an announcement teaser campaigns being a bit meh in the end I expect them to end up crap every time.
2013-01-31 23:57:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I bet it's a teaser for another new ad.2013-02-01 00:11:00

Author:
MatrixEchidna
Posts: 66


http://www.dairycrest.co.uk/media/12130/hero_panel_vitalite.jpg

Vita hardware revision.

Thinner
Lighter
4 gb onboard storage
Spreadable.
2013-02-01 00:13:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


OMG! Home is coming out of beta!2013-02-01 00:22:00

Author:
Entity
Posts: 274


Sony is gonna unveil that... They are done copying Nintendo and have decided instead they are just gonna merge with Nintendo to get rid of all the hard extra work they were doing by trying replicate Nintendo's products. The company will now be one mega company called Sotendo~ *mew2013-02-01 00:56:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


There have been many times when Sony created a lot of hype around a supposedly big revelation and it turned out to be some minor new feature. But I don't they would overhype it this much if it wasn't a new console. Yes, they would get a lot of attention but also a lot of hate for feeding off of the anticipation. Not even Sony could make such a mistake.

If I know them, they suck at keeping secrets. There will probably be an information leak before the big reveal
2013-02-01 01:13:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Hang onto your seats people!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g82C4Nu_Jq8

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/01/31/see-the-future/
2013-02-01 03:10:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


There have been many times when Sony created a lot of hype around a supposedly big revelation and it turned out to be some minor new feature.


Yeah, I'm a little skeptical.

Does the PS blog post count as hype? It is a countdown reveal, those are never smart, the "hype" blame falls not on Sony but on speculative and endlessly aggressive click-seeking games journalists who have been giving five or ten articles to every morsel of leaked news these past six months. And the hyperbolic commentariat.

My bet:
Vita redesign requiring proprietary 3D glasses, proprietary biometric gloves, proprietary thermometer!
"See the future. Touch the future. Take the future's temperature? Something something. You'll buy it."
Lets you attach up to 4 redesigned USB-stick Moves, ("MoveSB") ! It joins a legacy of greatness that has remained constant throughout the brand's history. (See appendix: Brand history, Great, Disasters, Peripherals > All.)
Plus new LittleBigPlanet DLC that can only be played by having every "MoveSB" connected to a new Vita which is synced to a Sony TV in any way except the normal way. Cost of DLC: $2.99. Cost of new Vita and MoveSB x 4: $759.99
Okay, had my fun little jab.

2013-02-01 04:33:00

Author:
Unknown User


Hang onto your seats people!



Ok...perhaps i'm just speaking for myself here, but...what the crapping crap was that?
2013-02-01 05:41:00

Author:
waffleking23
Posts: 535


Ok...perhaps i'm just speaking for myself here, but...what the crapping crap was that?

LOL ... I think a lot of people on here don't go to other sites much.

join the party:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511056
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=154012
https://twitter.com/michaelpachter/status/297124378976600064

... and from the guy in charge of Gametrailers:


Geoff Keighley tweeted the following: ‘Just got my invite. PlayStation Meeting, February 20 NYC. #IThinkIKnowWhat’sComing.”

Likelihood of PS4 reveal VERY HIGH. It could be Gaikai related, but whatever it is it's BIG.

Sony are streaming the event live on the 20th of February. Haven't got the link yet.
2013-02-01 07:22:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


It has to be Playstation 4, a Playstaion meeting has always meant brand new hardware in the past, I can't see them changing that now.
The question is will they be revealing brand new games to go with it as well? There's only so excited fans can get with specifications and an image of a new console. Imagination only does so much, some gameplay trailers would really send things into overdrive. But at the same time they need to save some good stuff for E3 as well.
2013-02-01 12:05:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


Speculation is that we've already seen some of the games that are coming on the new console, like Kojima's Project Ogre (Phantom Pain / new Metal Gear, etc.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSfajBs2nyQ
2013-02-01 12:25:00

Author:
Unknown User


Speculation is that we've already seen some of the games that are coming on the new console, like Kojima's Project Ogre (Phantom Pain / new Metal Gear, etc.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSfajBs2nyQ

It's gotta be MGS 5. (http://imageshack.us/a/img191/6787/9d78i2st.gif)
2013-02-01 13:06:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


What they won't announce:

measures to block second-hand games from running on the system
your personal data is liable to be compromised
features at launch will be taken away with successive firmware updates
XMB will be cluttered with adverts even more than it is now
2013-02-01 13:27:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


They announced the Vita long before E3 so I don't see why they wouldn't do the same thing now.2013-02-01 14:30:00

Author:
VenemoX
Posts: 197


from the point of view of a non tech savvy person I have to say that unless games are announced then theres no excitement at all here. honestly, the ps3 still works, has a great library and the graphics are as good as you'd ever really need them to be, announce great games and then I'll likely buy, for instance warhawk ps3 was a great release title, fun multiplayer for everyone. something like that would really sell it.2013-02-01 16:07:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


The question is will they be revealing brand new games to go with it as well? There's only so excited fans can get with specifications and an image of a new console. Imagination only does so much, some gameplay trailers would really send things into overdrive. But at the same time they need to save some good stuff for E3 as well.

I'd guess at a sizzle reel for the debut, brief clips of various games in a montage with the full trailers being kept for E3.

There's a few first party developers/teams that havn't had anything out for a while and have nothing announced like Sucker Punch, Gurilla, Naughty Dogs other team and the second team at Media Molecule so they should have some good things to show off, hopefully a nice mix of high profile series and new IP.
2013-02-01 16:17:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Yeah, not quite definitive proof but would definitely be an extended middle finger to whom it concerns if it was anything but, and I don't think they'd do such a thing to the loyal consumer/easily excitable.2013-02-01 16:34:00

Author:
Ironface
Posts: 432


Well, my opinion can be chanaged with new info, but at the moment I'm not excited about a new Playstation. My PS3 is doing just fine, I've spent a ton of money on it, and in all honesty the graphics are good enough for me. But again, my opinion could be changed as new info is released.

However, I don't see myself getting a PS4 right away. First few years in any console life cycle is generally slim and not "must buy" material for me. Generally speaking.

I will reserve judgement until info is actually released though.
2013-02-01 16:58:00

Author:
DistantWords
Posts: 49


For me, it comes down to the games. Needs some good (exclusive) games lined up for it.2013-02-01 20:16:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


This should calm you all down: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/388941/sony-teases-next-gen-reveal-see-the-future-on-february-20/

I'm sure it's the PS4/Orbis.
2013-02-01 22:39:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


LOL ... I think a lot of people on here don't go to other sites much.



While you're right about not going onto many other (video) gaming sites, my reaction was less to what was being teased, as to the teaser itself. i mean...it's jank. i felt like there should've been a trophy unlock image in the upper-right corner at the end. A little rage face, maybe, something like "Time Wasted" unlocked.

i'm trying to remember, and i may be conflating ad campaigns, but when they were running the old "You are not (Red)E" commercials for the PS, didn't they give us at least a little gameplay footage to know what the heck they were getting at? Maybe Battle Arena Toshinden and...Ridge Racer...something racing at anyrate. This was just...oooh...what a pretty electrified logo...my interest is not piqued...though at least i'm not in a fit of pique...so that's a success, i guess.
2013-02-01 23:35:00

Author:
waffleking23
Posts: 535


I don't want to be THAT guy, but... I know some friends in the modding business, and this is DEFINITELY the Orbis*. Sony's gunning to have it out this holiday, and they're ready to get things interesting. Much easier to dev for, has the same CPU as what the new xbox, the Xbox Infinity, is gonna have... GPU is 1 stronger one over the Infinity's two weaker GPU's. I won't spill anything pic related, because I'm sure that would get me and those friends in some trouble, but it's... a different look. Case is round, or atleast the prototype the guys tore apart to see how it ticks.

Don't want to leak specifics, because that would be dangerous... get me on skype if you want that. Only thing I'll say is that both MS and Sony are aiming for $299 at launch.

*Orbis is the real name, as far as they know. Devkits don't have directories with PS4 or anything in them... name also coincides with Vita for "Circle of Life" making a bit of sense.
2013-02-02 01:12:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


Have they mentioned, or does anyone know if they're planning PS3backcompatability for this one? It wasn't so much of a deal breaker with the last one (between Silent Hill3 and LBP i'd pretty much weened off games), but this time around...i've put an awful lot of work into not just playing, but making things (with the LBPseries) that mean something to me (published or no), and i really don't want to see that work go away.2013-02-02 01:30:00

Author:
waffleking23
Posts: 535


some friends in the modding business

How/why do people in tthe modding business have access to the devkit?
2013-02-02 01:45:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


How/why do people in tthe modding business have access to the devkit?

If they can afford a devkit, they can afford a devkit. Sometimes these guys are explicitly hired to find exploits in new hardware, so they're cracked open as soon as they hit. Vita has actually been wide open for months, but nobody wants to release the exploit because sony is sue-happy.

Which reminds me... both the Orbis, and the Infinity, will NOT accept used games. So that's probably why they were hired for the two.

Edit: Of course, that isn't what you meant... is it? No, Sony/MS/Nintendo don't know that the exploiters bought a devkit, because the exploiters aren't the ones that release any code. Again, it would be the people that hire them. Very few of these people actually release their code...
2013-02-02 03:59:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


So, the EDGE magazine has revealed some interesting info (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-01-playstation-4-to-launch-in-japan-and-north-america-this-year-but-not-reach-europe-until-early-2014-report).

According to them, the controller will indeed be redesigned. It'll be similar to the current Dualshock, but it'll have a touchpad in the middle like the one the PS Vita has on the back.

It'll also have a share button that'll allow players to upload screenshots and videos to the internet. The console will continually record the last 15 seconds of footage, allegedly without any processing penalty.

They also said some technical stuff about the RAM that I didn't completely understand, and compared it to the next Xbox's. Check the link above to know more.

Lastly, they say it'll arrive this year in North America and Japan, but Europeans will have to wait until early 2014 due to the "complexities of EU distribution", whatever that means. Wouldn't really bother me since I never buy a console on launch. First-year buyers are like my guinea pigs.

Thoughts? Do you guys think this is true? I mean, it's EDGE. They have some credibility.

By the way, I heard they were going to name the console Playstation 4 in the Europe and NA, and Playstation Orbis in Japan. Apparently because the number 4 is associated with death in japanese superstition.
2013-02-02 04:12:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


The share button sounds good, it'd be nice if that turns out to be true.
And I've never bought a console on release either, as you say there are advantages to waiting, so I don't mind.
I hope they allow us to use our old controllers for the PS4, that would make the jump a bit easier.
2013-02-02 11:36:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


In theory the ability to record and upload games footage is nice but it feels like it's a bit of a sly "feature" pushing for what may later become mandatory and perpetual online connectivity.2013-02-02 11:40:00

Author:
Unknown User


If they can afford a devkit, they can afford a devkit. Sometimes these guys are explicitly hired to find exploits in new hardware, so they're cracked open as soon as they hit. Vita has actually been wide open for months, but nobody wants to release the exploit because sony is sue-happy.

Which reminds me... both the Orbis, and the Infinity, will NOT accept used games. So that's probably why they were hired for the two.

Edit: Of course, that isn't what you meant... is it? No, Sony/MS/Nintendo don't know that the exploiters bought a devkit, because the exploiters aren't the ones that release any code. Again, it would be the people that hire them. Very few of these people actually release their code...

Good reasons.


perpetual online connectivity.

You're funny.
2013-02-02 12:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


In theory the ability to record and upload games footage is nice but it feels like it's a bit of a sly "feature" pushing for what may later become mandatory and perpetual online connectivity.

Even if they're pushing for it, they won't make it too blatant. The market isn't really ready for it. Sony already learned that lesson with the PSP Go. Besides, these features may not be of any use to those who don't have internet on their console (like me) but the people who do like to feel connected.
2013-02-02 12:01:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


So, the EDGE magazine has revealed some interesting info (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-01-playstation-4-to-launch-in-japan-and-north-america-this-year-but-not-reach-europe-until-early-2014-report).

According to them, the controller will indeed be redesigned. It'll be similar to the current Dualshock, but it'll have a touchpad in the middle like the one the PS Vita has on the back.

It'll also have a share button that'll allow players to upload screenshots and videos to the internet. The console will continually record the last 15 seconds of footage, allegedly without any processing penalty.

They also said some technical stuff about the RAM that I didn't completely understand, and compared it to the next Xbox's. Check the link above to know more.

Lastly, they say it'll arrive this year in North America and Japan, but Europeans will have to wait until early 2014 due to the "complexities of EU distribution", whatever that means. Wouldn't really bother me since I never buy a console on launch. First-year buyers are like my guinea pigs.

Thoughts? Do you guys think this is true? I mean, it's EDGE. They have some credibility.

By the way, I heard they were going to name the console Playstation 4 in the Europe and NA, and Playstation Orbis in Japan. Apparently because the number 4 is associated with death in japanese superstition.
Dude, it's the same info I posted before. Just a different website. -_-
2013-02-02 12:28:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


Dude, it's the same info I posted before. Just a different website. -_-

Actually there's a few differences between the two, the one you posted has "versions featuring a biometric sensor and LCD touch screen have been tested." and EDGE has "it'll have a touchpad in the middle like the one the PS Vita has on the back. " similar but different enough to be posted as seperate rumours. Also your info seems to be lacking anything about the 15 minute recording feature.
2013-02-02 12:54:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Actually there's a few differences between the two, the one you posted has "versions featuring a biometric sensor and LCD touch screen have been tested." and EDGE has "it'll have a touchpad in the middle like the one the PS Vita has on the back. " similar but different enough to be posted as seperate rumours. Also your info seems to be lacking anything about the 15 minute recording feature.
Hmm ... True. You're right, sorry.
2013-02-02 13:38:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


Also your info seems to be lacking anything about the 15 minute recording feature.

15 seconds, actually :/
2013-02-02 14:44:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


15 seconds, actually :/

Eurogamer error, source article had minutes.


A new Share button on the controller will, when pressed, launch a new feature that will allow screenshots and video to be distributed online. The PS4 hardware will continually record the most recent 15 minutes of onscreen action (with no processing penalty, claims our source), which users will then be able to edit and broadcast via the Internet.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/playstation-4-revealed/
2013-02-02 14:59:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


The controller could probably look something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/I3lXLf2.png

Dunno if it's a leaked picture or fabricated by an artist. I just found it on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/17t1ag/based_on_rumours_this_could_be_the_new_ps4/).
2013-02-04 12:40:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I love that one! My favorite of the four mockups from four different Photoshoppers. Covered by Kotaku, which confirmed that these are indeed just mockups by armchair designers having fun.

http://kotaku.com/5981354/the-magic-of-photoshop-brings-the-ps4-controller-to-life

http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2013/02/1_640x360.jpg
http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2013/02/2_640x360.jpg
http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2013/02/3_640x360.jpg
http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2013/02/4_640x360.jpg
2013-02-04 12:52:00

Author:
Unknown User


second from top looks more comfortable to hold, especially for people with long fingers like me... what actually is the point in the touch pannel though?2013-02-04 16:21:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


Those all look pretty good, the second one in particular is has a good image to it I think.
I actually have the image of Sony's real working prototype though, I have some pretty close top secret sources that occasionally leak these things to me. And I figured today I'd share it with you lot, as it's just so exciting. Hold onto your hats..

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a37/Blibble/stcontroller_zps946ed75c.jpg
2013-02-04 19:09:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


New XMB from Sony's new TV range would be an acceptable interface for PS4.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HqXur1IvMRs
2013-02-04 19:22:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I'm really excited to make this the last generation of consoles I care about.2013-02-04 20:47:00

Author:
bigMoose_
Posts: 183


Hey LBPC! I don't post here very often but today I have something to ask/talk about with you. So as some of you may already be aware of, PlayStation posted a video on YouTube announcing something "new" is coming February 20th and this has stirred up allot of rumours (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-3GMHIgR-U). Some people are saying the video is for the ps4 others are saying its going to introduce some xbox games to ps3. My first question for you is what do YOU think the announcement is going to be? Ok now I know that the ps4 (or the next Playstation console) is going to come out eventually and I also want to hear from you how you think this is going to impact the little big planet community. Will there be a new lbp? Will lbp ps3 still have players? Would you still play lbp2 for ps3 even if the ps4 is the "new" thing and there is little to no hope about lbp3? Any-who please tell me what you think!
Personally I don't know what the announcement is going to be but I would not be surprised if it is a new console. Also I am kind of hoping that it isn't a new console because I just got a new ps3. Also if the ps4 came out i would defenitly be sticking around lbp2 fot a while as i (and im sure lots of you) am terribly addicted to this fun loving creative game!
I want to know what you think!
2013-02-05 05:56:00

Author:
dolphins-r-lame
Posts: 281


hey
have no clue wot it's about.
personally i hope there will be a better network
i guess i'll do the same as with lbp1/2
as long as most of my friends are here on lbp2, i will be too
btw,i don't play any other games
grtz mirjan
2013-02-05 07:11:00

Author:
mirjanneke
Posts: 34


This belongs to General Gaming Forums.

Also: PS4 to be unveiled February 20th? (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=77772-PS4-to-be-unveiled-February-20th)
2013-02-05 09:19:00

Author:
Schark94
Posts: 3378


I think they will announce PS4 on 20 February.

Although, it is said that there is not going to be an lbp 3, I'm starting to thing that they will make one.
The reason why I believe this is because there are rumors that ps3 games won't be playable on ps4, so my guess is that they will eventually make a lbp3 because lbp2 will loose a lot of customers...
The main reason I believe there is going to be a lbp3 is because every time Sony makes a new feuture there was always a new lbp dlc or full game, like the move pack, or the ps vita version...

I personally will continue playing lbp2 and lbp ps vita, except if they make a 3rd one and they manage to connect it with lbp1 and 2, just like they did with 1 to 2.
2013-02-05 09:28:00

Author:
AntonyHelen
Posts: 127


Merging with existing thread...2013-02-05 13:24:00

Author:
Chazprime
Posts: 587


There is obviously more to playstation than just lbp. Just saying. :|2013-02-05 20:47:00

Author:
Sunbunny23
Posts: 995


I think they will announce PS4 on 20 February.

I dont understand people douthing it, gaming press saying it is PS4 annoucment, big papers also saying it's PS4 annoucment, everyone knows it's PS4 annoucment if it's not PS4 annoucment it's gonna be biggest rick roll in history and Sony knows that would not be good for them in terms of PR


New XMB from Sony's new TV range would be an acceptable interface for PS4.

There was lot of talk that XMB does not really fit game console use


There is obviously more to playstation than just lbp. Just saying. :|

When they annouced Vita they annouced they working on LBP title for it, so......
2013-02-06 04:00:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


After all my talk I actually had to sell my PS3 the other day. Bills got the best of me this horrible winter.

We'll see how the next few months go but if the PS4 is announced with definitive confirmation that there is 1) NO backward compatibility and 2) NO mass migration of PSN content from PS3 to PS4 then I may pick up the PS3 again in the summer and sit out the PS4 for a year or so. I've invested so much in my PS3 PSN account that if it can't transfer over to PS4 it's cheaper to rebuy a brand new PS3 to regain access to all my stuff. Hmm.
2013-02-06 09:12:00

Author:
Unknown User


After all my talk I actually had to sell my PS3 the other day. Bills got the best of me this horrible winter.

We'll see how the next few months go but if the PS4 is announced with definitive confirmation that there is 1) NO backward compatibility and 2) NO mass migration of PSN content from PS3 to PS4 then I may pick up the PS3 again in the summer and sit out the PS4 for a year or so. I've invested so much in my PS3 PSN account that if it can't transfer over to PS4 it's cheaper to rebuy a brand new PS3 to regain access to all my stuff. Hmm.

I can already tell you there won't be backward compatibility, PS4 is rumorded to have x86 CPU (it's practicly sure thing) and PS3 got this odd PowerPC based Cell with odd SPE cores that are impossible to emulate in playable speed (yet), only way to achive BC here would be puting Cell inside PS4... but they did something like that with PS3 since they been migrating to from MIPS CPUs that was used in PS1, PS2 and PSP (which PS3 now emulates but does not emulate GS GPU thats why PS2 BC is gone) and didn't end really well (599$ ) There arumor that PS4 will have attachment allowing to play PS3 games so there still home. There rumor that PS4 will finally get PS2 BC

As for PSN content, PS1 games should work as they are emulated, same thing with minis (if Sony still remeber about them), all passive data content (like LBP costumes for example) should work as well if PS4 going to use that (for example possible LBP3, thru in this case as LBP DLC work it depends if they gonna include specific DLC data to possible LBP3). I bet some games might be ported but don't know.
2013-02-06 14:26:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


I'm aware of the shift away from Cell technology and am excited about that. It's not that I expect the PS4 to be backward compatible. But I want to hear in absolute terms from Sony themselves that it's NOT compatible, so I can go pick up another PS3 and just focus on the PS3 for a while longer. If there's even a hint that the PS4 will allow me to transfer over my accumulated PS3/PSN purchases and play them instantly on the PS4, then I can wait for the PS4.2013-02-07 04:21:00

Author:
Unknown User


I personally think it would be stupid on Sony's, and Microsoft's part to not have BC in their next consoles, and here's why... DLC. Many people have invested more money in DLC than they have in the games themselves... To not have all that digital data transfer would seem really stupid, especially for future DLC purchases. Someone who feels they got screwed on their DLC purchase is not as likely to purchase new DLC next time.

But, that's just my viewpoint.

I will say this though. If there is even the slightest fact to the rumors about Sony trying to prevent used games from running, some kind of "lock" that ties a disc to a system or account, then I am out. For good. Get the pirates, that's fine. But don't gimp legit discs... Could you imagine what would happen if CDs and Movie DVDs/Blurays had that kind of stipulation? You can play this CD/Movie as much as you want, but only on the first device you played it on...

No. Just no. I'll be done if that ever happens.

BTW, I'm all for the same "locking" that happens with the Cross Buy discs. That's totally reasonable and acceptable and logical. A disc SHOULD be locked out once it's been used if it's giving away a free copy of something on a different platform.
2013-02-07 06:29:00

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DistantWords
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PlayStation 4 will launch before the end of 2013, cost at least $400, and feature Gaikai technology as well as expanded social feature, Japanese newspapers have claimed.

The date and price details come from daily newspaper Asahi Shimbun. According to Gematsu?s translation, the console is expected to cost more than ?40,000 ? $427.

At launch, the base 20GB model PlayStation 3 was priced at just under ?50,000, or $534, and retailed at $500 in the US. This suggests the PS4 might be cheaper than its precursor if a similar pattern of conversion is used, but the report does say the ?40,000 figure is the minimum expected price and the yen and dollar are in a very different relationship at present.

The report also mentioned Sony is scurrying to meet expected demand in the US and Japan, with no mention of Europe; the PlayStation 3′s PAL territory release was delayed for several months by hardware shortages. PAL territory pricing on Sony hardware is generally more expensive, even allowing for conversion.

Meanwhile, in a Nikkei report also translated by Gematsu, the console is said to draw on Gaikai?s cloud infrastructure somehow.

For a number of reasons, it's unlikely that Sony will offer a full games streaming service, but Gaikai could be used to power demos and trials as well as other media content; prior to its acquisition by Sony, it was one of the few companies in the world with a global server farm of the kind which will be needed if gaming ever goes completely digital.

Nikkei further claims that the PS4 will feature expanded network functions, including a social feature allowing users to exchange opinion while playing. It sounds a little like MiiVerse, and matches rumours of a ?share? button, but may refer to cross-title chat ? a much requested feature.

The paper agreed with Asahi Shimbun that the new console will arrive by the end of the year, and with many past rumours that it will not utilise the PlayStation 3′s Cell architecture.

A PlayStation Meeting has been called for two weeks from now, and the PS4, codenamed Orbis, is expected to show its face at long last.

Source. (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/07/ps4-out-in-2013-priced-at-over-400-claims-japanese-daily/comment-page-1/)

Welp. Doesn't look like Sony learned their lesson the first time. =/
2013-02-07 06:41:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I think this is going to be another unneeded system update with some new features.

May be they impfofe the ps network ?

I don't think that it's about the PS4. If I'm wrong it is an announcement announcement or a trailer announcement or something like this
2013-02-07 08:03:00

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Luke_MK_II
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Source. (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/07/ps4-out-in-2013-priced-at-over-400-claims-japanese-daily/comment-page-1/)

Welp. Doesn't look like Sony learned their lesson the first time. =/

In what way haven't they learned their lesson?
2013-02-07 22:11:00

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GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


Well, if it is the announcement of PS4...
PS4 = a new LBP
I'm happy.
2013-02-07 22:46:00

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cakito123
Posts: 353


In what way haven't they learned their lesson?

He means it's too expensive.

However...

http://kotaku.com/5982374/about-that-ps4-price-rumor

Basically, it was a mistranslation, and they were basically just guessing it was that expensive.
2013-02-07 23:06:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


He means it's too expensive.

However...

http://kotaku.com/5982374/about-that-ps4-price-rumor

Basically, it was a mistranslation, and they were basically just guessing it was that expensive.

Well in that case he's totally wrong. The Wiiu is $350 already, and that's a current gen machine. There's no way that a next gen machine is going to be as cheap as that.
2013-02-08 00:01:00

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GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


Around 400€ wouldn't be that bad, considering the PS3's initial price. In fact, it's wishful thinking.2013-02-08 00:03:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Well in that case he's totally wrong. The Wiiu is $350 already, and that's a current gen machine. There's no way that a next gen machine is going to be as cheap as that.

You are just proving my point further and further. Which company is on top right now, with most sold consoles? Nintendo. You really think it's mainly because of their audience? I can guarantee a large portion of the sales are because of the reasonable price as well.

Which brings me to my point, they haven't learned anything.

The PS3 launched as a 600$ console. That was way too expensive, and Sony took a bullet to the head for that one. If I'm not mistaken they STILL to this very day lose money for every console they sell.

What makes Sony think, that after this huge economic crash, people are willing to spend the same amount (if not more) on a console?

$400-$450 (like the article stated) seems like a reasonable price. $500 is pushing it and anything higher than that will just be a repeat of the PS3's launch cycle.
2013-02-08 00:14:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Sony started breaking even with the PS3 a few years ago, and is now making some proffit. Though, from what I understand, they aren't even close yet to making up for the losses...

But again, I could be totally wrong.

I will say one thing though (I'm pretty sure I haven't said this yet...). If there is any truth at all to the rumors of MS and Sony making it impossible to play used games, like having them locked to a system or account after activation or something, then I am done. Period. GameStop is my "Demo" headquarters (since most games refuse to provide playable demos). And by that I mean that I purchase games used (if no demo is provided). Play them for a few days and take them back. If they are good enough, I'll buy them new. If not, I'll forget I ever heard of them.
2013-02-08 02:44:00

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DistantWords
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I don't know if it makes any sense to look at the economy [to guess at product prices] with regard to luxury products. Look at the obscene success of the $500 iPhones and $700 iPads and so forth, year on year. Despite the horrible horrible depression, new iterations come out every year, more expensive, driving down the previous prices ever so slightly. Those new discounts sell more and more, the install base grows, people who said they couldn't afford it decide they can not because it's truly affordable but because it's cheaper than it was. They rue the costs but in a kind of friendly way, like "haha, yeah it was too expensive, but better than the launch price and I guess I knew all along I would buy it." People are dumb about how they deal with pricing, that dumbness is vital to sales. Millions of research dollars are spent just on observing and analyzing behavior of certain demographics and what they say versus what they spend. At no point have I ever considered any price of an Apple product to be "reasonable" and I say so... then I also say that no Sony product is "reasonable" and buy pretty much everything that comes out. Terrible economy be darned, various jobless teenagers and college kids, people in huge debt, people defaulting on house payments who cannot afford to pay the electric bill, they somehow justify the purchase of that luxury item. We're all conditioned to whine, then accept that the glass ceiling of tech prices was shattered with the latest generation, then we hope for a mild discount and consider it a good deal. We have no idea what to think about pricing. Everything is way out of our league, we complain it's impossibly expensive... then we pony up.2013-02-08 02:51:00

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Unknown User


I don't know if it makes any sense to look at the economy with regard to luxury products. Look at the obscene success of the $500 iPhones and $700 iPads and so forth, year on year.

That's true, but unfortunately I think those devices sell as well as they do because they have a a much broader appeal to the consumer, whereas it seems to be getting harder and harder for the game manufacturers to sell dedicated gaming hardware. One of the big sites ( think it was GameIndustry ) examined handheld sales of three generations of Nintendo handhelds against the iPhone. What they found was that in the time since the iPhone was introduced, Nintendo's handheld sales declined at a rate inversely proportional to the iPhone's growth. Hardly conclusive, but interesting nonetheless.

I suspect that Microsoft and Sony might experience slower growth next generation just as Nintendo is experiencing now - the market is a lot more crowded these days, and with more players about to enter the market...it's going to be harder to compete.
2013-02-08 03:13:00

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Chazprime
Posts: 587


Well, part of the reason the PS3 was so expensive was because of the Blu-ray player, right? But since then, the price for that kind of tech has lowered substantially.2013-02-08 12:01:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I don't like the sound of blocking used games... I'm not even someone who plays used, but that usually means the console would have to be always online, and that's total bull.2013-02-08 14:00:00

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MatrixEchidna
Posts: 66


I don't like the sound of blocking used games... I'm not even someone who plays used, but that usually means the console would have to be always online, and that's total bull.

Well, rumors have it that the Xbox 720 (or whatever it will be called) will need a constant internet connection to be used. So it's not that far-fetched to think of the PS4 going the same route.
2013-02-08 18:50:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


will this blocking used games thing mean I can't lend a game disk to a friend to try out at home before he decides to buy it? or I can't bring a disk to a friends house and play it over there? If so then RAAAAGE!!!!!!!!! if it means the disk is tied to a specific psn then that would be somewhat awkward but not so bad.2013-02-08 19:32:00

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Smudge228
Posts: 533


Sony and Microsoft would be shooting themselves in the foot by enforcing those measures. Sooner or later people will get fed up with this kind of BS and boycott them all to hell. Then they'll finally learn this is about companies striving to get the approval of their customers, not customers trying to get the approval of the companies.2013-02-08 19:41:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Isn't Sony's anti preowned tech already in use on PS3 with the disc benefits on cross buy games only working on one account.2013-02-08 21:03:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Isn't Sony's anti preowned tech already in use on PS3 with the disc benefits on cross buy games only working on one account.

Cross Buy is totally different because it's giving away a digital copy of the Vita version, a copy that once used no longer requires the physical disc ever again. If they didn't lock that out there'd be no reason for anyone to ever buy the digital copy for Vita because any Vita owner could find someone with the PS3 and disc.
2013-02-08 21:27:00

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DistantWords
Posts: 49


Cross Buy is totally different because it's giving away a digital copy of the Vita version, a copy that once used no longer requires the physical disc ever again. If they didn't lock that out there'd be no reason for anyone to ever buy the digital copy for Vita because any Vita owner could find someone with the PS3 and disc.

So yes the technology is already being used in some form.
2013-02-08 21:35:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


The tech is there, yes, but it's not anti preowned, it's more anti piracy.2013-02-08 22:21:00

Author:
DistantWords
Posts: 49


I think Sony is ready to unveil the PS4. On February 20th, Sony will be making a huge announcement.

To see the website, go here: https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/
2013-02-09 02:57:00

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1111dav9
Posts: 97


I think Sony is ready to unveil the PS4. On February 20th, Sony will be making a huge announcement.

To see the website, go here: https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/

Merged with existing thread
2013-02-09 03:04:00

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Lady_Luck__777
Posts: 3458


People have gone nuts with making Kaz Hirai gifs and images:

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http://i5.minus.com/ij7Xx6AnugzNb.png
2013-02-09 03:54:00

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warlord_evil
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People have gone nuts with making Kaz Hirai gifs and images:



http://i.minus.com/irBuyUemXHuXD.gif
2013-02-09 08:27:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


hehe what? I'm guessing he's someone important in the sony company?
what do you guys think the launch line-up will look like? I recon within the first year we'll see
killzone 4
lbp3/ something with sackboy in it
infamous 3
ratchet and clank ps4
uncharted 4
and I hope a warhawk 2 or some other 3rd person multiplayer shooter on a huuuuuge scale
2013-02-10 17:23:00

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Smudge228
Posts: 533


hehe what? I'm guessing he's someone important in the sony company?


Current Sony president and CEO.
2013-02-10 17:40:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I heard a rumor that Killzone 4 will be a launch title.

However, I wouldn't expect purely new entries in existing franchises. While I'm sure Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, and Media Molecule will be launching their new games within the first year or so of the PS4's launch, I don't think it'll be Infamous 3 or Uncharted 4 or LBP3. I'd imagine they'd be working on new stuff that none of us can predict.

So, I'mm just say Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog and Media Molecule's new games.
2013-02-10 17:40:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


hehe what? I'm guessing he's someone important in the sony company?
what do you guys think the launch line-up will look like? I recon within the first year we'll see
killzone 4
lbp3/ something with sackboy in it
infamous 3
ratchet and clank ps4
uncharted 4
and I hope a warhawk 2 or some other 3rd person multiplayer shooter on a huuuuuge scale

Ya, I agree! And I also want a warhawk 2, since there are not much players now on the first one... (btw my opinion is that starhawk was a fail...)
2013-02-10 18:03:00

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AntonyHelen
Posts: 127


hehe what? I'm guessing he's someone important in the sony company?
what do you guys think the launch line-up will look like? I recon within the first year we'll see
killzone 4
lbp3/ something with sackboy in it
infamous 3
ratchet and clank ps4
uncharted 4
and I hope a warhawk 2 or some other 3rd person multiplayer shooter on a huuuuuge scale

I think naughtydog is done with Uncharted (But there is no proof on that). Infamous 3 can't happen if Cole is dead unless they make a new character but that almost never happens. LBP3 would take a while to happen so probably not the first year lineup (LBPV was a launch title but had a huge delay). Doubt there will be a R&C PS4 game in the first year since the first R&C on ps2 was 2 years younger than the ps2 and the first R&C PS3 game is a year younger than the PS3. Also insomniac is still working on FFA patches,DLC, and maps.

I'm sure many of these will be on ps4 but probably not the first year.
2013-02-10 19:55:00

Author:
Sunbunny23
Posts: 995


hehe what? I'm guessing he's someone important in the sony company?
what do you guys think the launch line-up will look like? I recon within the first year we'll see
killzone 4
lbp3/ something with sackboy in it
infamous 3
ratchet and clank ps4
uncharted 4
and I hope a warhawk 2 or some other 3rd person multiplayer shooter on a huuuuuge scale

I'd like to see new IPs, not just a load of sequels.


I think naughtydog is done with Uncharted (But there is no proof on that). Infamous 3 can't happen if Cole is dead unless they make a new character but that almost never happens. LBP3 would take a while to happen so probably not the first year lineup (LBPV was a launch title but had a huge delay). Doubt there will be a R&C PS4 game in the first year since the first R&C on ps2 was 2 years younger than the ps2 and the first R&C PS3 game is a year younger than the PS3. Also insomniac is still working on FFA patches,DLC, and maps.

I'm sure many of these will be on ps4 but probably not the first year.

There were 2 endings remember. I recall one of them being very ambiguous.
2013-02-10 20:00:00

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Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I think naughtydog is done with Uncharted (But there is no proof on that). Infamous 3 can't happen if Cole is dead unless they make a new character but that almost never happens. LBP3 would take a while to happen so probably not the first year lineup (LBPV was a launch title but had a huge delay). Doubt there will be a R&C PS4 game in the first year since the first R&C on ps2 was 2 years younger than the ps2 and the first R&C PS3 game is a year younger than the PS3. Also insomniac is still working on FFA patches,DLC, and maps.

I'm sure many of these will be on ps4 but probably not the first year.

I agree with all except the uncharted 4. I think there is gonna be a 4 because of the 3's ending...
2013-02-10 20:54:00

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AntonyHelen
Posts: 127


I agree with all except the uncharted 4. I think there is gonna be a 4 because of the 3's ending...

naughty dog usually stops at 3 like crash and J&D. So it's possible to stop at 3 for Uncharted.
2013-02-10 22:18:00

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Sunbunny23
Posts: 995


nah, uncharted 4 is all but confirmed by naughty dog, and if they didn't you KNOW sony would hire someone else to do it. in fact I recon when Naughty Dog step away from uncharted they'll make the series definately over to stop it from being butchered by sequels they never planned. I also think there'll be an infamous 3, both endings kind of hint at an eventual sequel if you watch, the lightning hitting coles boat in good ending strongly hints at a ressurection and the evil ending basically involves cole become professor x.2013-02-10 22:38:00

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Smudge228
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The developers of PlayStation franchises LittleBigPlanet and MotorStorm have both teased new things ahead of Sony's PlayStation event on 20th February.
The New York-based event is widely expected to star Sony's next-generation console, PlayStation 4/Orbis.
LittleBigPlanet creator Media Molecule added a section for a new project (titled "?") to its games page (separate to PlayStation Vita title Tearaway, also currently in development). It features a YouTube video of 1981 pop tune It's A Mystery by Toyah Wilcox.
Media Molecule reportedly handed LittleBigPlanet 3 development (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-07-littlebigplanet-3-in-development-at-sonic-racing-dev-sumo-digital-report) to Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing studio Sumo Digital, freeing itself to work something else.
MotorStorm RC game director Paul Rustchynsky also teased the PlayStation event by beginning a countdown on his Twitter (https://twitter.com/Rushy33) account over the weekend.
Evolution Studios produced five MotorStorm games since 2006. The latest, downloadable spin-off MotorStorm: RC, launched last year. But the LinkedIn (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/simon-barlow/3/898/791) profile of design director Simon Barlow mentioned a larger "AAA first-party exclusive" title. This project has been in development since 2011, when the series' last major release MotorStorm: Apocalypse launched.
Eurogamer will be reporting live from the PlayStation event next week.



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-11-littlebigplanet-dev-teases-a-new-game-ahead-of-sonys-playstation-4-event
2013-02-11 12:54:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I wonder what MM is making for the PS4...?

http://www.mediamolecule.com/games/toyah/
2013-02-11 18:36:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Something new and shiny I would guess, I doubt it's LBP3. But I'm happy to be wrong.2013-02-11 22:10:00

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LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


Something new and shiny I would guess, I doubt it's LBP3. But I'm happy to be wrong.

Well, whatever it is...

...

IT'S A MYSTERY
2013-02-11 22:12:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


PS4 controller: new details emerge pre-reveal A VG247 source has seemingly confirmed that the PS4 controller will include a front touch-pad, speaking a week before the console’s expected reveal in New York.
http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/02/ps4_3.jpg
A VG247 source said today that PS4′s rumoured controller touch-pad is real. The input is on the front of the handset. The Start and Select buttons have been moved as a result.
The controller is “more or less” the same shape as the current DualShock. We’ve been told today that the L2 and R2 buttons have been remodelled for the better.
The existence of the touch-pad has been previously reported by Edge (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/01/ps4-controllers-share-button-function-detailed-rumor/), but claims a “Share” button exists on the controller from the same report were debunked by our source today. Apparently it isn’t there.
Rumours regarding the machine are now coming thick and fast. It was reported that it will come bundled with a camera (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/08/ps4-could-come-bundled-with-a-dual-camera-playstation-eye-rumor/) last week, and Gaikai tech and a $400 price-point (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/07/ps4-out-in-2013-priced-at-over-400-claims-japanese-daily/) have recently been suggested by Nikkei in Japan.
Sony is expected to announce PlayStation 4 at a New York event next Wednesday.



http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/13/ps4-controller-new-details-emerge-pre-reveal/
2013-02-13 15:14:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Another rumour doing the rounds is Kaz will hand deliver every PS4 himself, whether you want him to or not! He won't let anything stop him, determined guy, no doubt about it.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7048945664/h7D754D11/
2013-02-13 19:00:00

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LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


what did I actually just whatch... crazy...smiling.... axe... d'you feel that? that tingling feeling? that's the iq dropping..2013-02-13 19:10:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


d'you feel that? that tingling feeling? that's the iq dropping..

http://i50.tinypic.com/98hmrr.gif
2013-02-13 19:30:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


http://www.destructoid.com//ul/244985-ibb.jpg
Remember when we told you of rumblings on the next PlayStation system's controller (http://www.destructoid.com/report-controller-for-next-playstation-has-a-new-design-242673.phtml) and how it might have a touchscreen? Well, get a look at this strange thing. This image of what looks like a PlayStation-style controller plugged into something that looks like a development kit has been floating around for the past day.
It does look like a touchscreen has been worked into the middle of the controller. What's that thing on the top? Also, get a load of those analog sticks. They look like belly buttons. Gross!
Apparently they've tried out several versions of controllers for whatever this next game system is; it's possible that this is one of them.
There's a chance we'll know more next week at Sony's big reveal of...something (http://www.destructoid.com/-see-the-future-of-playstation-on-february-20-243703.phtml) in New York.
I kind of hope that this is fake.


http://www.destructoid.com/what-the-hell-is-this-the-new-playstation-controller--244985.phtml
2013-02-14 20:25:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


It's likely to get a refinement or three but I find the controller design very acceptable.

Right away: it makes sense the touch surface would be flush with the rest of the controller for best fingertip access and it covers a good deal of real estate.

The light up top is almost certainly an integration of Move.

Ridged analog sticks are better for preventing slippage, especially for the (yes, gross) greasier and sweatier players.

If the sticks or perhaps the whole controller is made up of what appears to be "grippable" rubber/plastic material I look forward to more pushback from analog controls, so there are more ways for thumbs to get more precise actions and HOLD those actions.

Nice work, Sony! I'm completely happy with this. Keeps classic design and functionality and integrates the new stuff in a meaningful way.

Really didn't expect the Move to be built in, but am very glad! Now if the camera is bundled with all base units we're set!
2013-02-15 06:16:00

Author:
Unknown User


http://i.imgur.com/baSZmq7.gif

Assuming that those buttons havn't changed size that increase in width on the controller looks to be just the right amount for me (if it stays through to a final design.)
2013-02-15 11:27:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Is that suppose to be a mic above the PS button?

And IMO clearly it is just a prototype. because It's missing logos & stuff.
2013-02-15 12:10:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Is that suppose to be a mic above the PS button?



Could be a speaker.
2013-02-15 13:51:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Mr. Krispy Kreme made a great write-up on LittleBigHub.com about everything that is known so far: http://www.littlebighub.com/whats-new-with-sony/2013-02-15 14:25:00

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amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515


I don't like to speculate.. I like surprises. 2013-02-15 14:35:00

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jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I don't like to speculate.. I like surprises.

That's kinda funny because most of the time I'm the opposite. I love to speculate & sometimes dislike surprises. *mew
2013-02-15 14:57:00

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Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I hope these new features don't make the controller too pricey. And about including new features, I agree with TotalBiscuit's point of view. Make sure the devs will use it consistently and in a useful, intuitive way, or it's not worth the trouble.

Remember the movement sensor in the Sixaxis and Dualshock 3? A dozen games made use of it. Did it change or improve the way we play games in any meaningful way? No! It ended up being just a gimmick. Even Sony's first-party series that made use of it at first like Uncharted, Killzone and Ratchet gave up on it.

Same thing's happening with Vita's trackpad. Only LBPV makes good use of it, and even then it's just a novelty.

Sony better be sure this isn't a waste of money and tech. And they better not come up with something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/c2bOTPq.gif
2013-02-15 15:50:00

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SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Yeah, I agree with Snipy. The first thought that popped up in my head when I first heard of the rumors of the PS4 controller having a touch screen was "How much is thing gonna cost?" I played the first two Uncharted games last year after purchasing a bundle of both games off Amazon. While the first UC game barely used the controller motion sensor, those few times were pretty tedious since it would never capture the controller movement right, making Drake almost fall, before proceeding to walk across the rope. I guess Naughty Dog learned that lesson pretty quickly though when it was not to be seen in the sequel.

The touch screen doesn't seem that bad though, it doesn't really get in the way of other buttons (except for 'Select', which seems to be missing from the prototype picture.) I guess I could imagine using it for menu navigation and UI purposes, but it just doesn't seem necessary, especially with such a small size limiting its possibilities. If the controller does end up something like that with a touch screen, I can only hope that Sony and the devs don't try forcefeeding its gimmicky possibilities through the games available, and if the controller is expensive, hopefully the console will come bundled with one of them.
2013-02-15 18:26:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Alternate angle

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/newps4controllershot.jpg


Sixaxis Ratchet



Best implementation



(except for 'Select', which seems to be missing from the prototype picture.)

Select and start look to be placed to the left and right of the touch pad.
2013-02-15 19:04:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Same thing's happening with Vita's trackpad. Only LBPV makes good use of it, and even then it's just a novelty.



I wouldn't say only LBPV.
2013-02-15 19:46:00

Author:
Sunbunny23
Posts: 995


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/02/15/playstation-evolution-the-beginning/

So, Sony's begun the hype machine for the 20th.

about five more days till they officially announce the PS4.

EDIT:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=513633

It seems Gaikai, the streaming service Sony bought out, will be used for streaming PS3 games.

...

huh
2013-02-16 00:20:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Well it is probably the most financially viable way of doing backwards compatability even if it's not 100% of the games due to various licence issues.2013-02-16 01:17:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Streaming PS3 games? how does that even work? Does that mean you always have to be online to play the games? and does that mean you have to rebuy the games even if you already owned the games on for PS3? if that all is true then it's worthless. especially since people who don't have great internet like me prefer to game normally offline. *mew2013-02-16 07:44:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


The touch screen doesn't seem that bad though

It's a touchpad, to be more precise.


Best implementation

The best implementation they found for a feature that made the controller at least 10-15€ more expensive were balancing and laser-guidance minigames.

Good to know the role of innovating the gaming industry is in good hands.
2013-02-16 11:15:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I'd argue that warhawk made the best use of sixaxis, though the later patch basically nulified the need to use it. personally I have unuseually large fingers and struggle to use any kind of touch screen so I hope if they do use a touch pad that it'll be relatively small in use. also, I don't like the look of the pattented sonyeye tablet thingy that surfaced recently as it looks awkward to hold. that's the same reason I don't like the wii u really.
with the rumoured specs can we expect to get bigger games? I'm not too interested in graphics personnally, but I'd love to see games that have huge maps, or lots of things to do that the ps3 currently can't handle (such as dynamic water) in games.
2013-02-16 12:22:00

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Smudge228
Posts: 533


Alternate angle

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/newps4controllershot.jpg





Looks like there's a headphone jack under the PS button.
2013-02-16 12:28:00

Author:
Flamento
Posts: 352


Eurogamer's sources confirmed (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-orbis-dual-shock-4-leak-analysis) it's indeed the Orbis' controller, at least a prototype.

And yes, that port on the bottom is a headphone jack. It's on the bottom (like the 360's controller's) so you don't need to have the wire going over or under the controller. Good design choice.
2013-02-16 13:04:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Sony continues their history lesson with the PS2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hvcps5dFzfc
2013-02-17 22:10:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


PS@:


Shift key strikes again.
2013-02-17 22:13:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Shift key strikes again.

I don't know what you're talking about >_> And please, ignore the Last Edited by RockSauron in the bottom of that post
2013-02-17 22:15:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Nice videos by Sony, I wonder if we'll get a PSP one tomorrow.2013-02-17 22:43:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


It seems they are building up so the reveal of the next Playstation coincides with the day after the PS Vita's video.2013-02-17 23:04:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Nice videos by Sony, I wonder if we'll get a PSP one tomorrow.

Nope PS3.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INs87xRF_ck
2013-02-17 23:05:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Huh, earlier than I expected... may have just been a slip up on the youtube operator's part. That's probably it. Oh well2013-02-17 23:07:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K527yNMAxLY

PSP & Vita
2013-02-18 23:03:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


One more day 2013-02-19 11:47:00

Author:
AntonyHelen
Posts: 127


Hopefully it's the PS4 or Orbis as it's code name is!!!2013-02-19 12:59:00

Author:
Unknown User


I will laugh if it's something stupid like an update to the PS Move. The hilarious combination of a complete and utter letdown, followed by the millions of fanboys who will undoubtedly commit seppuku shortly after will be too much.

Too bad Sony isn't that stupid.
2013-02-19 13:17:00

Author:
bigMoose_
Posts: 183


So all consoles and hand helds covered in the videos now. Any chance of one more video I wonder before the big reveal? And if so what will it be about? PS exclusives or a teaser for tomorrow perhaps, hmm.2013-02-19 15:01:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


So, since it's all but confirmed that tomorrow will be the PS4's announcement, anyone want to volunteer to make a new thread with all the confirmed info as soon as it's announced? Don't think this thread will be sufficient as the official PS4 thread...

Regardless, for now, what do you think they'll announce? I imagine they'll hype up Gaikai and the cloud, in addition to the controller, and probably their new social media initiatives. As for games, I imagine the rumors for Killzone 4 and Motorstorm will come to fruition, though I hope they announce more than that. Hopefully confirm a few 3rd party games, if not announce Media Molecule, Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog's new games, as well as other first parties I might be missing...
2013-02-19 15:51:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


As for games, I imagine the rumors for Killzone 4 and Motorstorm will come to fruition, though I hope they announce more than that. Hopefully confirm a few 3rd party games, if not announce Media Molecule, Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog's new games, as well as other first parties I might be missing...

there's a good list here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505826 only slightly out of date, Evolution have been rumoured to be doing a non motorstorm racer and rumours in the last few days that The Last Guardian is now a PS4 game.
2013-02-19 16:41:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Imagine if The Last Guardian was a launch game, ha! That would be amazing, but considering how long we've already waited, I very much doubt it. Hope we see quite a few strong launch titles though.2013-02-19 18:05:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


http://whois.domaintools.com/playstation-cloud.com

Gaikai registers "Playstation-cloud.com"
2013-02-19 20:05:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Anyone know what time this announcement is?
Is there a livestream a la Nintendo direct?
2013-02-19 20:19:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Anyone know what time this announcement is?
Is there a livestream a la Nintendo direct?

11pm uk time, various sires will be streaming.
2013-02-19 20:26:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Anyone know what time this announcement is?
Is there a livestream a la Nintendo direct?

I think it starts at around 11pm GMT but not too sure off the top of my head.
There's a lot of streams planned all over the internet but CVG's streams seem to be the most reliable from past experience.
2013-02-19 20:38:00

Author:
duffym871
Posts: 89


11pm uk time, various sires will be streaming.

WHAT!?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a37/Blibble/brian_blessed_150_150x180_zps5c5ceac1.jpg
2013-02-19 20:56:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKi7qlDdXxs

And finally games.
2013-02-19 21:48:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


http://kotaku.com/5985356/source-the-ps4-will-be-out-this-november-and-youll-be-able-to-control-it-with-your-phone

RUMOR: PS4 will be out this year, most online features to require subscription. Also, control it with your phone, because that's something you'll do.

Also, Re: that video... methinks the focus on Gran turismo is trying to tell us something...
2013-02-19 22:23:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


RUMOR: PS4 will be out this year, most online features to require subscription.

Hype train de-railed.
2013-02-19 22:43:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


...If Ps4 forces you to pay monthly just to play games online. if so then I can't see myself buying it. hell the rumor of us not being able to play used games on it and us always needing to be online to play games whatsoever was enough to make me consider not getting it. Well... Guess all that's left is to wait and see what actually happens and what was just rumors. *mew2013-02-19 22:58:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Ekhm ekhm

https://twitter.com/tomkiss/status/304003799872311296
2013-02-19 23:13:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Wait, it says he's LEAVING NYC... which is where the conference is... tomorrow...

huh...
2013-02-19 23:19:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


http://i.imgur.com/HZC4aHY.png
http://i.picpar.com/4Ll.png

Stick it on the maybe list?
2013-02-20 00:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Wait, it says he's LEAVING NYC... which is where the conference is... tomorrow...

huh...

Yeah it's odd it might be troll... hopefully ^^
2013-02-20 02:18:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Who is Tom Kiss?2013-02-20 08:28:00

Author:
AntonyHelen
Posts: 127


So what is the deal here? what is being released at 11 p.m. uk time, and where can we watch it?2013-02-20 09:01:00

Author:
Alismadia
Posts: 77


So what is the deal here? what is being released at 11 p.m. uk time, and where can we watch it?

Probably PlayStation 4, watch it at your local PlayStation blog or any major gaming news site.
2013-02-20 09:16:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


What will the new PS4's controller look like? Please feel free to leave your images and sugestions below before the big night tonight!!!

44461
2013-02-20 09:44:00

Author:
Unknown User


What will the new PS4's controller look like? Please feel free to leave your images and sugestions below before the big night tonight!!!

44461

Looks nice, though I hope the start/select are either moved or changed to buttons. Seems like they'd be hit accidentally with that design.
2013-02-20 11:07:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


What will the new PS4's controller look like? Please feel free to leave your images and sugestions below before the big night tonight!!!

44461
http://www.abload.de/img/1d2kkl.jpg
https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/434/1840/original.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aJOxfK7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6VeeyiK.jpg

Like that but maybe with some minor revisions.
2013-02-20 11:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


They could've at least done something about the R2 and L2 buttons, since in the current controller they press themselves accidentally only if you put your controller down on the table or something, which shouldn't happen, but it seems they forgot.

Also

Well, rumors have it that the Xbox 720 (or whatever it will be called) will need a constant internet connection to be used. So it's not that far-fetched to think of the PS4 going the same route.
If this is the case, then I call ********. It's absolutely unfair to demand internet connection to play single-player games in any console, especially on PS4. They should never, ever make this happen. I, for one don't play PS3 games online, since if I did I couldn't go online with any other device in the house (I live where I live, so it's fun like that) and due to my work, I need internet connection in my laptop 95% of my waking hours.

I really hope that this won't happen, or I'll have to wait a few extra years to get the console.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem paying for online-play, but I can't be expected to plug it online whenever I want to play the system. Paid multiplayer like in XBOX 360 doesn't really cause me to cheer in happiness, but it doesn't make me cry either. What really ****** me off is the possible demand to be online whenever you want to play it, even if I only want to play offline.
2013-02-20 13:26:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Who is Tom Kiss?

I hope you joking You might know him as Tom_molecule, he was hired to MM from community toghether with Spaff from LittleBigPlanetoid, he also devloped LBP.me (atleast the old one), that wy when oyu login to LBP.Me at his birthday you will get his pin:

http://i7.lbp.me/img/fw/g194823-07700ee0.png
2013-02-20 15:38:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


They could've at least done something about the R2 and L2 buttons, since in the current controller they press themselves accidentally only if you put your controller down on the table or something, which shouldn't happen, but it seems they forgot.


It's probably just a prototype.
2013-02-20 18:45:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


It's probably just a prototype.

I do hope so.
2013-02-20 18:48:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Locked per OP request.

New thread here:
https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=78228-Playstation-Meeting-2013&p=1086121#post1086121
2013-02-20 19:15:00

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Lady_Luck__777
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