Archive: 14 posts

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I normally like to get long and expletive, so Ill try and keep this brief. Im looking for a type of media--a book, video game, movie, backstory to some old comic series, anything(but preferably a book)--that meets certain criteria. I want a sci-fi story that involves interplanetary travel, a big war, but NO ALIENS. I am beginning to think that the governments of the world have collaborated to ensure that no one anywhere publishes a futuristic sci-fi story that doesn't involve aliens. Everywhere I look, and I have looked a lot, any sci-fi book that seems like it would be mildly interesting has aliens in it. Or, sometimes, some weird supernatural crap that involves raising magic babies to be robots in order to take down "The Corporation". I dont want some weird supernatural weird story about freaky strange stuff, or aliens, or even some strange alien artifacts, I just want a story about human space ships shooting at other human spaceships, and landing on planets and shooting at more stuff. Haven't humans proved that they are extremely capable of killing each other? Well look what I did, I failed to follow my first sentence. Time for a TL;DR. That was a rant. Ignore it, its significance is limited. TL;DR: I want a sci-fi book that matches these criteria: interplanetary travel lots of action NO SENTIENT ALIENS!(seriously)(animals are alright, but if there is a shred of sentient aliens, any hint that they might be there, any "mysterious artifact" dug out of a crater on "Zargon-4", then I am not interested) none of that weird supernatural crap(see italicized sentence above) if it is illogical I will hate it. If it matches all of the criteria above but doesn't make logical sense, I will hate hate hate it(with extra hate, illogical story events drive me insane) Im getting desperate, I really want something that matches these criteria. The only thing I have found so far is the Killzone series (Helghast are humans). If your suggestion(s) match(es) all but one of these criteria, I am not interested. I guess you can mention it, but tell me which criteria it fails to meet, and then Ill tell you Im not interested because it doesn't meet all the criteria. EDIT: If you can find something for me that matches all of these criteria, I will give you a US $10 PSN card code. In order to receive your reward, the storyline of the book or whatever has to match all of the criteria above. If it's a tiny bit off, that's fine, but nothing drastic. Anything related to Killzone is out, as are any non-PS3 games. Anything other than that, I swear to you if it matches these criteria I will give you 10 bucks. Now that two people have suggested things, I fear that I might have to be out 20 bucks. So no one else should expect money if they suggest stuff.

2012-12-26 00:53:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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Now I see where you were going with the warp drive thread. O_o Looks like you have a difficult task on your hands, trying to find material that matches your constraints. Have you considered writing your own story for the level? Wish I could help you, but I am at a loss...nothing is coming to mind that doesn't have an alien. :/

2012-12-26 03:44:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Now I see where you were going with the warp drive thread. O_o Looks like you have a difficult task on your hands, trying to find material that matches your constraints. Have you considered writing your own story for the level? Wish I could help you, but I am at a loss...nothing is coming to mind that doesn't have an alien. :/ Well I just like space, the two threads arent related. And as for the level, what level are you referring to?

2012-12-26 13:28:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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It appeared you were looking for a book which you could translate into a LBP level. That's why I was asking if you had considered writing your own story. And I was thinking you were looking for a plausible scientific explanation for the possibilty of warp drives, and related the 2 threads with your comment about it has to be believeable, otherwise you would hate the material. I drew a correlation where there was none. Now I understand.

2012-12-26 15:03:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Bump for the update. Im getting desperate, plus I dont think anyone will be able to find something... Also, I already have a universe like this in my imagination, with all kinds of events and different sorts of science that I have honed over months and years to be entirely logically accurate. I also, every day, am almost constantly pretending Im somewhere in this universe, in some time period, on some planet or starship or whatever. I just want someone else's story.

2013-01-08 13:25:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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If it seems like it hasn't been done, maybe it's the gods beckoning you

2013-01-08 20:03:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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I would, if I had the patience, interest, or attention span to do that. However, I have none of those things, so I actually wouldn't!

2013-01-09 02:16:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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BattleStar Galactica. No aliens, war between Man vs Machine, very emotional and thought provoking and action based. Some hate the ending, but I, for one, love it and view it as one of the best endings ever. But eh. ... I mean, I guess there's some supernatural stuff, but not much, but eh... fine, whatever >_>

2013-01-09 02:23:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Oh boy, ten bucks! Time to start researching something that meets the requirem- BattleStar Galactica. ...Frak. I doubt I'd be able to offer anything else for a request that specific. From what I've watched and read, Battlestar would be the closest you'd get.

2013-01-09 03:50:00 Author: Dragonvarsity Posts: 5208

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I dont want some weird supernatural weird story about freaky strange stuff, or aliens, or even some strange alien artifacts, I just want a story about human space ships shooting at other human spaceships, and landing on planets and shooting at more stuff. Any spaceship needs large radiator panels to dissipate heat from the ship. Beam weapons generate lots of heat, so you need more radiators, but the more radiators you have thr less armoured and more vulnerable your ship is. You could use missiles, but since you'd be fighting at hundreds of thousands of kilometers they could be easily intercepted. I'm struggling to think how space combat would work logically, other than "the person who can detect and hit you from furthest away wins every time". How would a ship even approach a planet to invade? The planetary defenders have a huge advantage in terms of the mass, space and power they can dedicate to their weapons and detection equipment. If planetary defenses were lacking a ship would be able to casually destroy all targets from orbit with high accuracy (down to the point of being able to hit a single person in a crowd) with no threat of retaliation, making a ground offensive meaningless. That said the best examples that come to mind are Starship Operators and Banner of the Stars. These are both anime that lean towards hard sci-fi and have human-on-human space combat. You might like Silent Running, Moon and 2001 for being more accurate depictions of life in space but they are all lacking when it comes to action.

2013-01-09 13:18:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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How would a ship even approach a planet to invade? The planetary defenders have a huge advantage in terms of the mass, space and power they can dedicate to their weapons and detection equipment. If planetary defenses were lacking a ship would be able to casually destroy all targets from orbit with high accuracy (down to the point of being able to hit a single person in a crowd) with no threat of retaliation, making a ground offensive meaningless. Im kind of going against what I said before, but Im ok with inertia-less ships. An inertia spring would stop all inertia from affecting the ship for a small period of time, during which time the ship could instantly drop out of near-light speed. Jumping to near-light speed would also use inertia springs, and would also utilize an unrealistic force that would blast the ship almost instantaneously to that speed. And to drop out, because the ship is simply moving at near-light speed with hardly any friction to slow it down, the ship would merely be coasting, and simply have to activate its inertia springs again to bring out of those speeds again, and the ship would then stop instantly. This is all of course impossible science fiction; one does not simply stop certain aspects of physics while keeping others intact. Any spaceship needs large radiator panels to dissipate heat from the ship. Beam weapons generate lots of heat, so you need more radiators, but the more radiators you have thr less armoured and more vulnerable your ship is. You could use missiles, but since you'd be fighting at hundreds of thousands of kilometers they could be easily intercepted. I'm struggling to think how space combat would work logically, other than "the person who can detect and hit you from furthest away wins every time". I dont like beam weapons, never seemed realistic to me. Now, I suggest you have read whats above, otherwise theres no point in reading on. So these ships Im talking about would utilize an immense amount of power in order to jump instantaneously into light speed. They would also most likely do this frequently, meaning that whatever this energy source is, you dont need a ton of it at once to make this powerful explosion, otherwise the ships would need too much space for fuel. So powering a small rocket for a single jump would use an incredibly small amount of the energy, you wouldnt have to power it to nearly the speeds of the ships. So my workings are that each rocket would have a very small engine and possibly an inertia spring, powering it fast enough so that it would be difficult to block and reach its target, however far away, in a very short time. That said the best examples that come to mind are Starship Operators and Banner of the Stars. These are both anime that lean towards hard sci-fi and have human-on-human space combat. You might like Silent Running, Moon and 2001 for being more accurate depictions of life in space but they are all lacking when it comes to action. Ill look into this stuff, thanks. BattleStar Galactica. No aliens, war between Man vs Machine, very emotional and thought provoking and action based. Some hate the ending, but I, for one, love it and view it as one of the best endings ever. But eh. ... I mean, I guess there's some supernatural stuff, but not much, but eh... fine, whatever >_> Although I wanted man vs. man... you got me, most likely. I never said there couldnt be machines. The thing I dont like about battlestar galactica is that theres little fighters in space, which really make no sense at all, and would need a large amount of thrusters do make the maneuvers Ive seen the ships make, as theres no air in space to help them turn. Ill look into it anyway. And arent there lots of iterations? Which one(s) would you suggest?

2013-01-09 14:29:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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The 2004 reboot starring Edward James Olmos. Don't even look at the original

2013-01-09 14:42:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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The film man has a guy fighting with himself and emotions, whilst on the moon. And there's a robot called gerty - and the whole film is logical. No epic battles, and only set on the moon - but man vs the folly of man and his own emotions. (I'll take any excuse to post a link to my favourite film)

2013-01-09 17:53:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872

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I must warn you, BattleStar Galactica has a very... mystical component. Not that much, but over time it gets a bit more religious. However, even as an atheist, it isn't THAT bad, and honestly complements the whole story. In my opinion, anyway. But, for the most part, it's about humanity... and the humanoid robots chasing after them, and a lot of the conflict revolves around what makes them human and stuff. So yeah, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but it may be the closest thing you'll get... also, it's the best thing ever on Television so, you know.

2013-01-09 18:58:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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