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If you enjoy debating, I made this thread about America's (and LBP's) controversial issues. Let's try to stay civil this time, and stay on topic. Normally, large threads go off topic, especially on this forum, but let's follow the rules.2012-12-11 21:46:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Let's be honest though, very few threads manage to stay on topic when it concerns a serious-ish issues,. It will be serious talk for maybe about 2 pages then it will turn into peanuts, cookies and 'that part of LBPC' where we let our ego's run wild . Nevertheless! Let's see how long it lasts. I don't actually live in America so I won't really be making any input other than this. Adios 2012-12-11 22:35:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Let's be honest though, very few threads manage to stay on topic when it concerns a serious-ish issues,. It will be serious talk for maybe about 2 pages then it will turn into peanuts, cookies and 'that part of LBPC' where we let our ego's run wild . Nevertheless! Let's see how long it lasts. I don't actually live in America so I won't really be making any input other than this. Adios

It can be issues from any country. And it's not just limited to politics. LBP issues can be debated on in this thread too.
2012-12-11 22:50:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Oooh, debate?
Well we could debate about motorcycles being better than cars, but we all know that's true anyway. And chicken fajitas being the second best food of all time, but then you probably knew that too. But who would win between Batman & Wolverine? That's pretty controversial. I wonder.
2012-12-11 23:13:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


Let's settle the debate, right here and now...

Does the toilet roll go UP or does it go DOWN?

LET'S END THIS DEBATE

FOR ALL TIME.
2012-12-11 23:14:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Toilet rolls will always end up going down eventually, it's inevitable what with gravity and all that physics stuff. Case closed, next!2012-12-11 23:17:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


Let's settle the debate, right here and now...

Does the toilet roll go UP or does it go DOWN?

LET'S END THIS DEBATE

FOR ALL TIME.IT GOES U... er... I don't actually know which way is up or down. It should go so that the loose end hangs down from the front, not the back. So I guess... down?

Regardless of the technical term, the only correct opinion on this matter is mine. Thank you.


EDIT:
I found a handy infographic that perfectly illustrates the correct answer:


http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/tross13/tp_diag01.gif
2012-12-12 00:18:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


Regardless of the technical term, the only correct opinion on this matter is mine. Thank you.

Does this mean all opinions, including South Park opinions?
2012-12-12 00:48:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Does this mean all opinions, including South Park opinions?Of course. 2012-12-12 00:49:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


Of course.

If you don't like the show, then I can assume that I'll get moderated for having a South Park avatar.

Anyway, let's debate whether if chocolate chip cookies eat peanut butter cookies, or vise versa.
2012-12-12 00:51:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


No, I only moderate differences of toilet paper opinion.2012-12-12 01:09:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


No, I only moderate differences of toilet paper opinion.

WE SHALL NOT BE SILENCED!

Toilet Paper goes DOWN... Er, UP... er, um, YEAH! FIGHT THE POWER!
2012-12-12 01:21:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


So you get the paper you do a wipe. Down is into the toilet up sounds like its something for a very special interest site.2012-12-12 01:29:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Let's add a poll. You can vote on it if you want, but it's a completely different debate.2012-12-12 01:34:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


https://forums.playfire.com/_proxy/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi218.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2F cc223%2Fjohncarter31%2Fgifs%2Fthreadwrecker.gif&hmac=ee92e5fc7291a136e0e2132968271e4e2012-12-12 01:38:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


Considering that this thread has already devolved into spamspam, and we now have an admin who is quite enfused with the spam lifestyle, I suggest we debate over LBPC renstating the Spam Can.

I say we should readd the Spam Can to LBPC. PROVE ME WRONG.
2012-12-12 01:39:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I say we should readd the Spam Can to LBPC.

I second this.
2012-12-12 01:45:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


Considering that this thread has already devolved into spamspam, and we now have an admin who is quite enfused with the spam lifestyle, I suggest we debate over LBPC renstating the Spam Can.

I say we should readd the Spam Can to LBPC. PROVE ME WRONG.

I thought the spam can got expanded to be all of general chat.
2012-12-12 01:45:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


we now have an admin who is quite enfused with the spam lifestyleWellll.... Although I do enjoy some randomness I wouldn't quite go that far.




I say we should readd the Spam Can to LBPC.Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I don't have any plans for that. :|
2012-12-12 01:57:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


Wellll.... Although I do enjoy some randomness I wouldn't quite go that far.



Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I don't have any plans for that. :|

But we are debating now!

Let's debate on if we should readd a spam can! And, if our wishes are not met, the puppy gets it!

http://www.omgsocute.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/puppy-hugging-teddy.jpg
2012-12-12 02:15:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


BRING BACK THE SPAM CAN, OR WE WILL CREATE A MILITIA TO TAKE OVER LBPC USING PEANUTS! :kz:2012-12-12 03:24:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


BRING BACK THE SPAM CAN, OR WE WILL CREATE A MILITIA TO TAKE OVER LBPC USING PEANUTS! :kz:

Bring back the Spam Can, and I'll show you why we don't have it anymore.
2012-12-12 06:06:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


That poll is miles better if you revert back to the question 'How do you use your toilet roll'.2012-12-12 07:17:00

Author:
julesyjules
Posts: 1156


You guys still haven't figured out that Apple2012s threads are the new spam can?2012-12-12 08:18:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


I would debate the use of polls in a thread like this, especially this one, as it doesn't even have an 'Other' option! The mere implication that I must conform to a specific choice is the very defintion of tyranny. Destruction and chaos are bound to follow if this goes unchallenged. Who's with me!? Take a stand against our oppressors!!!

Wow, that escallated quickly..
Ahem, anyway, I do enjoy a bit of peanut butter on crumpets, a rather tasty snack from time to time.
2012-12-12 10:28:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


The mere implication that I must conform to a specific choice is the very defintion of tyranny. Destruction and chaos are bound to follow if this goes unchallenged. Who's with me!? Take a stand against our oppressors!!!http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Boy-That-Escalated-Quickly-Anchorman.gif2012-12-12 10:36:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018


I vaguely remember somebody saying that this thread would stay sane for the first two or three pages, well we are only on page 2 and already talking about how it has devolved into spam posts XD2012-12-12 10:50:00

Author:
Skalio-
Posts: 920


I vaguely remember somebody saying that this thread would stay sane for the first two or three pages, well we are only on page 2 and already talking about how it has devolved into spam posts XD

I credit myself with that ridiculous statement, of course it would even last a page

But as for the toilet roll question, c'mon guys?
It obviously rolls down
2012-12-12 12:24:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


EDIT:
I found a handy infographic that perfectly illustrates the correct answer:


http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/tross13/tp_diag01.gif

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour. You're supposed to be an admin on this site, someone responsible who we should all look up to and respect and you post this crap (pun intended).

That is NOT the way toilet paper should be. I feel very strongly about this and have created a protest group called "Correct Toilet Paper Holstering For Justice Group". So far we have a grand total of 1 members.

Holstering it in the "so called" good position means you have to move your paper-grabbing hand at a funny angle. There is a strong possibility of serious injury, which means you may have to wipe your bum with your weaker hand for THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

Quite frankly, I'm outraged.
2012-12-12 12:51:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Absolutely disgraceful behaviour. You're supposed to be an admin on this, someone responsible who we should all look up to and respect and you post this crap (pun intended).

That is NOT the way toilet paper should be. I feel very strongly about this and have created a protest group called "Correct Toilet Paper Holstering For Justice Group". So far we have a grand total of 1 members.

Holstering it in the "so called" good position means you have to move your paper-grabbing hand at a funny angle. There is a strong possibility of serious injury, which means you may have to wipe your bum with your weaker hand for THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

Quite frankly, I'm outraged.

I know, I've been using toilet paper wrong all this time! :eek:
2012-12-12 14:41:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


Absolutely disgraceful behaviour. You're supposed to be an admin on this site, someone responsible who we should all look up to and respect and you post this crap (pun intended).

That is NOT the way toilet paper should be. I feel very strongly about this and have created a protest group called "Correct Toilet Paper Holstering For Justice Group". So far we have a grand total of 1 members.

Holstering it in the "so called" good position means you have to move your paper-grabbing hand at a funny angle. There is a strong possibility of serious injury, which means you may have to wipe your bum with your weaker hand for THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

Quite frankly, I'm outraged.
If you use the "down" position, your view of the paper end will be blocked by the roll. Not only hindering the paper picking process but also leading to possible injuries (hidden spiders and such):
http://i.imgur.com/4K5T5.png
You do what you want, but I'm not going to risk getting my hands bitten by a tarantula because you can't bend your hand proper. :kz:
2012-12-12 15:07:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


(hidden spiders and such)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3uR0J-Jqk
2012-12-12 15:31:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I am proud of everyone here, we're onto the second page, and have tackled two extremely controversial topics of peanut butter & toilet rolls without a total meltdown occurring. That takes some serious dedication & restraint. While I would wish to avoid any unnecessary pericombobulation, I would suggest an even more extreme topic to debate. It's pretty explosive, so I hope the moderators keep a close eye on this one.

And here it is, make sure you're sitting down and you're not eating or drinking..
Baked bean juice and tomato ketchup.. should they be mixed? Are they pretty much the same thing? Is putting ketchup on your baked beans on toast insanity.. or genius?
2012-12-12 15:37:00

Author:
LieutenantFatman
Posts: 465


If you use the "down" position, your view of the paper end will be blocked by the roll. Not only hindering the paper picking process but also leading to possible injuries (hidden spiders and such):
http://i.imgur.com/4K5T5.png
You do what you want, but I'm not going to risk getting my hands bitten by a tarantula because you can't bend your hand proper. :kz:

If you look at the "vision cone" in your diagram, the roll on the left is more obscured, therefore risk of spider bite is greater.

Also, since when does the "dangly bit" curl up like that? Your diagrams are very inaccurate so I can't take them seriously (as this is a serious debate).

Furthermore..... I am from England. Risk of tarantula bite is very low.


I am proud of everyone here, we're onto the second page, and have tackled two extremely controversial topics of peanut butter & toilet rolls without a total meltdown occurring. That takes some serious dedication & restraint. While I would wish to avoid any unnecessary pericombobulation, I would suggest an even more extreme topic to debate. It's pretty explosive, so I hope the moderators keep a close eye on this one.

And here it is, make sure you're sitting down and you're not eating or drinking..
Baked bean juice and tomato ketchup.. should they be mixed? Are they pretty much the same thing? Is putting ketchup on your baked beans on toast insanity.. or genius?

Well the sauce is baked beans is tomato sauce. I would say it's neither insane or genius, but unecessary. But.... whatever floats your boat.
2012-12-12 16:10:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I take offense to this thread! My grandmother's best friends former roomate was seriously injured from a spider attack while grabbing toilet paper after eating a peanut butter and bean juice sandwich with ketchup on the side.

Shame On All Of You!!
2012-12-12 16:41:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


I agree with Taffey.. a TP roll has to be mounted with the leading edge over the top. ..if you like it the other way, no real argument. Nothing to debate.

PBJ sandwiches can be made anyway you want since it is your sandwich you are making. Nothing to debate.

..as far as bean juice and ketchup? What? I think that is a UK thing, although a cheap way to perk up baked beans is to add a bit of ketchup and brown sugar.

A thread having no topic except Debate? I think that's the real debate on whether or not the thread is spam.
2012-12-12 16:54:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


A thread having no topic except Debate? I think that's the real debate on whether or not the thread is spam. Exactly. And I think we all know where that leads. :tophat:2012-12-12 17:28:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


Exactly. And I think we all know where that leads. :tophat:

Good times.
2012-12-12 17:35:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


If you're really the type of person to sit on the Lou and be challenged by the properties of toilet paper rolls (don't get me wrong, that stuff is witchcraft):
http://www.spygearco.com/Images/Hidden_Cameras/babywipes.jpg
So easy, a baby can do it.
But seriously, get the flushable ones.

And what's the "normal" way of making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich ? The others seem pretty normal to me. Except for the double-jelly thing. That's just jelly.
Or just use this.
http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmps/shops/statesidecandy/images/american-smuckers-goober-grape-peanut-butter-jelly-combination-510g-759-p.jpg
2012-12-12 17:45:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


Exactly. And I think we all know where that leads. :tophat:

Since I am familiar with moderation issues, it could be where you can no longer post on the thread.

@Rabid-Coot: You're right when it comes to the whole forum. It's not just this thread, but more locked threads come from the off-topic forum (General Chat). So I guess the off-topic forum is a true off-topic forum because of all these de-railed threads.
2012-12-12 20:13:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


So I guess the off-topic forum is a true off-topic forum because of all these de-railed threads.It's actually the General Chat forum which, surprisingly, is intended for general chat. Threads with non-specific topics and/or threads that devolve into random spamming go bye-bye.

The key here is focused topics. Yes, even threads about which way toilet paper rolls go or how to best make a PB&J sandwich are just fine, provided the person who starts the thread takes the responsibility to keep the conversation focused on the subject for which the thread is intended.

This thread has no real focus, and although it's nearly been diverted into meaningful (if silly) dicussion, it is quickly breaking down as it had no particular point from the very beginning. I have hopes that you may yet be able to salvage this thread into something that adds value to the forum.

I'm a pretty relaxed guy, and I strongly believe that the whole point of a forum like this is to have fun and participate in interesting discussions. LBPC should be a pleasant place to hang out and participate in the outstanding community we are all so fortunate to be a part of. Anything on this site that detracts from that vision will be dealt with swiftly, and this thread is toeing the line.

tl;dr - Focus on a topic or I'm locking this thread.

I hope that makes things a little more clear.
2012-12-12 20:55:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


Maybe if the thread had an actual title of what the topic was rather than "the debate thread". As it stands now, this is a thread that should be devoted on how best to debate one another.

So back to the actual topic that was first brought up... TP rolls. What if you don't like using those TP holders? In our house the stupid holders are mounted too far back and all on the left side and been too lazy to move them. Not handy at all for right handed folks so we simply have the roll sitting on the counter top. Thus making it hard to say which way the roll is actually going. ..however if it was hanging, I like the over the top method.
2012-12-12 21:01:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I so disappointed in all of you.

I wonder if toilet paper holstering preferences are regional? ie maybe those in the US prefer over the top, whilst those in the UK prefer under the bottom? I certainly think it's worth investigation.
2012-12-12 21:20:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


..however if it was hanging, I like the over the top method.
I so disappointed in all of you.

I wonder if toilet paper holstering preferences are regional? ie maybe those in the US prefer over the top, whilst those in the UK prefer under the bottom? I certainly think it's worth investigation. My understanding of the under-the-bottom (heh, I get it) hanging method is that it is intended to thwart mischievous cats and toddlers.
2012-12-12 21:23:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


Possibly!!

Wait.. could it be that those below the equator use the other direction for hanging the roll? At least I thought their swirls go the opposite way, so maybe that their rolls are reversed too.
2012-12-12 21:27:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


HANNUKAH OR CHANNUKAH?! :kz:

lol
2012-12-12 23:54:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


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