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Erm, have i joined at a bad time?

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The established members of this forum seem to be getting banned one by one :|
I'm slightly concerned.
Not really setting a great environment for the forums =
2009-01-17 22:57:00

Author:
Pinchanzee
Posts: 805


Well... there have been a few members who've been punished for disobeying the rules...

I can only think of six major ones though, and some of them's majorosity is debateable, and the one just banned is only banned for four days for not listening to CC.

The only REAL active and MAJOR user who was banned would be Marino, who actually asked to be banned. He had been slightly on the down road for some time, shall we say, so it may not be too suprising that he didn't have some huge out burst from the community since he changed so much and asked for it anyway :/.

So, out of the few members that we dare to call semi-active, most were only banned because they were really too much work and too rebellious, and then two because they actually asked to be banned.

So... not too many people are being banned, actually. And those that are literrally ask for it or are just plain jerks :/.
2009-01-17 23:03:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Well thanks for clearing that up
I guess you can't really judge people by their posts, doesn't really give a great perseption of their personality.
Can't see why anybody would ask to be banned though = wouldn't you just not come on the forums? At least then you can return in the future..
2009-01-17 23:06:00

Author:
Pinchanzee
Posts: 805


i'm still here xD2009-01-17 23:09:00

Author:
Thee-Flash
Posts: 3154


Can't see why anybody would ask to be banned though = wouldn't you just not come on the forums? At least then you can return in the future..

Well, in Marino's case, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to help coming here and going down the wrong road again. So, in a moment of clarity, he asked to be banned.
2009-01-17 23:11:00

Author:
BassDeluxe
Posts: 984


I'd just like to point out that the penalty system is automated. You can be warned without recieving a point penalty, be given enough points where nothing happens, and then you get to the point of being automatically silenced and then banned. The post detailing them all is here (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=t=5981).

The penalties are not permanent though. Given enough time they wear off, in which case they will be going back to silenced and then back to normal. And that's assuming you have enough penalties to get to a banned state.

If you get enough penalty points at once though (I guess from going beserk or doing many major bad posts quickly) you can become permanently banned by the system. But looking at how it's set up that would be very difficult to do unless it was really warrented.

Remember as well that the moderators don't have to impose penalties. My guess is they can stop just short of a permanent ban.

So those with "banned" and "silenced" are likely not to be permanently banned. They are likely in a "cooling off" stage where they are not allowed to post. This makes sense to me as it allows them to pause, reflect on what they have done, and hopefully avoid doing so again.

And besides all this, remember that a person is responsible for their own actions. It's not your problem that someone is breaking the rules, it is their problem and their choice for doing so. It's a good thing there are penalties though, so that people that are inappropriate will not be ignored.

Finally, I'd also like to point out the many positive points this forum has as well. The reputation system rewards people for good posts. There are no tangible benefits, but it is a mark showing other people respect your views and input.

There is the experience system as well, the more meaningful things you do, the more experience you get, which can then be used in the experience shop to get all sorts of good things.

So I'd recommend checking out the good things in case you have not already. It's not like this site is only harsh and imposes penalties. That by no means is the majority of this site.
2009-01-17 23:19:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


Well, in Marino's case, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to help coming here and going down the wrong road again. So, in a moment of clarity, he asked to be banned.

yeah marino was a nice guy but always ended up getting into trouble and breaking rules. he wouldn't have stayed away without a ban really.
2009-01-17 23:24:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270


yeah marino was a nice guy but always ended up getting into trouble and breaking rules. he wouldn't have stayed away without a ban really.


It wouldn't have been so bad, had he not been a mod for a long period of time xD
2009-01-17 23:34:00

Author:
DrunkMiffy
Posts: 2758


Clank, after being warned against abuse of the rep system (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=124633&postcount=7230), decided to abuse rep once again (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=124764&postcount=7254). He was banned for 4 days because of it, as per the warning he was given (both by post and through PM).2009-01-17 23:42:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729


That's almost comical it's so ridiculous (not the rule, the action ). Even after being warned Clank does this.. sheesh hahaha2009-01-17 23:50:00

Author:
Neverynnal
Posts: 374


I'm here! Sure I guess Marino and Clank were SORT OF active, but I AM LBPCENTRAL! Without me, the site would fall apart by the seams! I'm easily the most active, friendliest, and post the most thoughtful posts. I AM THE BEST!!!! 2009-01-18 00:29:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


Elbee I know this forums has great aspects to it, don't worry
Thanks for the info now, didn't realise it was automated o_0
So is a requested ban permanent?
2009-01-18 00:40:00

Author:
Pinchanzee
Posts: 805


Elbee I know this forums has great aspects to it, don't worry
Thanks for the info now, didn't realise it was automated o_0
So is a requested ban permanent?
We don't really do those anymore, but generally if someone requests to be banned, it's for a rather permanent reason.

We're trying to avoid requested bans, though, as it's really up to the user to leave.
2009-01-18 00:54:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729


We don't really do those anymore, but generally if someone requests to be banned, it's for a rather permanent reason.

We're trying to avoid requested bans, though, as it's really up to the user to leave.

Yeah, requested ban is kinda weird. Why not just stop using it?
2009-01-18 01:16:00

Author:
Hexagohn
Posts: 335


I've agreed with every ban so far. Be it someone I like or not.2009-01-18 01:19:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Yeah, requested ban is kinda weird. Why not just stop using it?
That's exactly why we stopped giving those out, but just to clarify, we only gave out 2.
2009-01-18 01:39:00

Author:
Code1337
Posts: 3476


ahhh come on Clank *sigh* lets hope this straitens him out and does not make him flail out in anger against the site because i actually liked Clank... *sigh* oh well, but hey, a ban is a ban and we need to accept that.

Cheers!
2009-01-18 03:01:00

Author:
RAINFIRE
Posts: 1101


I've agreed with every ban so far. Be it someone I like or not.

yeah i agree. there is a few users i like who got banned but they deserved it. so it's their own fault.
2009-01-18 10:53:00

Author:
Don Vhalt
Posts: 2270


It has always been their own fault, we don't give out warnings or infractions or for that matter ban someone just for the fun of it.

A member has to break the rules first, be warned, do it again, be infracted, then silenced then offend again in some way and then fail to redress their behaviour to be banned and even then we discuss the matter in depth before we pull the trigger.

The simple matter is if you act and treat people how you would like to be treated 99.999% of the time the admin and mod team don't even know you exist unless they are engaged in the same thread or topic you are.

The rules of the site are really simple and fair and not hard to follow at all, you really have to consistently push the right buttons and basically stand in the middle of the room shouting look at me, look at me, look at me, to make it to the ban stage.

Cheers QuozL
2009-01-18 12:40:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921


It has always been their own fault, we don't give out warnings or infractions or for that matter ban someone just for the fun of it.

A member has to break the rules first, be warned, do it again, be infracted, then silenced then offend again in some way and then fail to redress their behaviour to be banned and even then we discuss the matter in depth before we pull the trigger.

The simple matter is if you act and treat people how you would like to be treated 99.999% of the time the admin and mod team don't even know you exist unless they are engaged in the same thread or topic you are.

The rules of the site are really simple and fair and not hard to follow at all, you really have to consistently push the right buttons and basically stand in the middle of the room shouting look at me, look at me, look at me, to make it to the ban stage.

Cheers QuozL

I don't think I was warned, I just got an infraction.
2009-01-18 12:43:00

Author:
Boomy
Posts: 3701


I don't think I was warned, I just got an infraction.
Looking at your profile you have only ever been given one yellow card (WARNING) for bypassing the language filter by Code. You have never been given an infraction, if you bypass the language filter again then you would be given an infraction which deducts points for the offence.

Also the part you quoted in bold was not an exact break down of the steps it was an example to show how far you would have to go to make us consider that maybe a ban was warranted. If you want the exact procedure it is available in The Guide (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=t=5204) thread

Cheers QuozL
2009-01-18 12:44:00

Author:
QuozL
Posts: 921


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