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Alright well i was sent an exclusive survey about PSP fro the Playstation Network and it was asking me about all these questions about how to make the PSP more desirable. Asking me if it needed a hard-drive(yes!) Touch Screen(Sweet!) and a better XMB with friend communication(AMAZING!!!!) Also there were many other questions that i can post if you want to know but, if this is an omen of things to come for the PSP then i have to buy this new one because PSP 2 would be the best thing in handhelds. Hope it's a sign of things to come!2009-01-15 02:44:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246


LOL. Sorry, but really I dont expect it.2009-01-15 02:48:00

Author:
Unknown User


0.0 i have been wanting to pick one up! Tell us the rest, i need to figure out if this is true or not, but if it is , I can not wait (if it ever happens >_>)

Cheers!
2009-01-15 02:53:00

Author:
RAINFIRE
Posts: 1101


Neither do I. And there's a pretty good chance that you're the only one that took the survey. XD2009-01-15 02:53:00

Author:
Sonic5411
Posts: 712


Of course it's a sign of things to come. What it means is that, like any develloper studying a market before introducing a new product, some parts of those studies are public. It doesn't mean it's the features of the next PSP but there's definetely another PSP coming.2009-01-15 03:26:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


Neither do I. And there's a pretty good chance that you're the only one that took the survey. XD

Well, apparently developers are starting to make games for the psp2 now in time for 2010.
-_-

Source- OPM
2009-01-15 16:39:00

Author:
TheArmedReaper
Posts: 1543


Hopefully piracy will be much more difficult so the software will actually sell well and a decent level of 3rd party support will be present.

Doubt I'll be upgrading though my PSP was only used for gameing on holiday and thats saw a sharp decline last year as I got a laptop and started taking that away as well.
2009-01-15 17:16:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


If they get that second analogue stick in, I'm happy.
And I do hope they allow homebrew and emulators, but not PSP game ISOs. But the chance of that is 1/1000000.
2009-01-15 17:23:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


The big problem with the PSP is not the graphics or the sound or the controllers or the capacity or storage medium...

The big problem is the lack of good games. You can see a handful of decent games on the PSP. And that's assuming your taste is broad and mainstream.

The DS has an absolute tonne, and that's not including GBA and earlier backwards compatability in the earlier models.

Strategy, puzzle, shooter, platforming, driving, recipe making... it's got pretty much every category displayed and in a very good way. There are just so many good games of all different genres there.

You can't fix the game drought issue though by just say... adding a hard drive to the PSP. They really need to make it easier and more accessible and desirable for 1st and 3rd party developers to make good games.

That's part of the reason for the DS' sucess. It's not technically the most powerful machine by any means, but developers produce a tonne of games which expands it's horizons.

So yeah, I hope they get off the technical high horse band wagon and make something that's got some good games behind it. Sure, a 2nd analogue stick and hard drive would be nice, but with 5 games a year coming out that are decent, who cares?
2009-01-15 20:41:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


I think it'll be a while seeing the 3000 came out not long ago..
Touchpad is a NECESITY for the PSP2
(But they shouldn't call it that, tis a bit naff)
2009-01-15 20:42:00

Author:
Pinchanzee
Posts: 805


touchscreen for a PSP?
nowai, go buy a DS then, though I don't advice.
2009-01-15 21:23:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824


Then what options do we have oldage?! What options do we have?!2009-01-15 21:33:00

Author:
TheArmedReaper
Posts: 1543


ok more questions were in here, http://kotaku.com/5131645/sony-surveying-gamers-on-next-psp-features also i really hope it's true i'd upgrade2009-01-15 21:47:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246


Then what options do we have oldage?! What options do we have?!

Built-in HDD.
Second joystick.
2009-01-15 21:48:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824


Second joystick would be ace.. come on the FPS's!
I don't see why you can be "against" a touchscreen... It's not exactly something they would make a necessity to use
2009-01-16 22:52:00

Author:
Pinchanzee
Posts: 805


I don't see why you can be "against" a touchscreen... It's not exactly something they would make a necessity to use

Shame developers don't seem to realise that. It's got better now, but at the start, every DS game seemed to have touch controls shoe-horned in, and most of them ended up all the worse for it.
Ditto the Wiimote.
2009-01-16 23:08:00

Author:
Ace
Posts: 118


atually, the psp has a version 5.01 out at the mo. theres even a psp-3000 so a psp 2 is a bit... old.2009-01-17 10:18:00

Author:
Rancid
Posts: 12


atually, the psp has a version 5.01 out at the mo. theres even a psp-3000 so a psp 2 is a bit... old.

Firmware and model number do not relate to the next generation of psp.
2009-01-17 11:13:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Firmware and model number do not relate to the next generation of psp.

Indeed. Once we get that second analogue stick, a hard drive, and maybe upped graphics, that'll be the next gen of PSP for me.

And we're on 5.02 now
2009-01-17 15:13:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


And we're on 5.02 now

I'm on 4.01
2009-01-17 16:26:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I'm on 4.01

Before i sold my PSP, i was on 5.01 M33....

2009-01-17 16:40:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Firmware and model number do not relate to the next generation of psp.

Haha if that wasn't the case, we'd probably be on something like the PlayStation 20 by now.
2009-01-17 19:10:00

Author:
Ace
Posts: 118


I haven't touched my PSP since GTA:VCS :l doubt I'd buy another if there was.2009-01-17 20:21:00

Author:
Boomy
Posts: 3701


I haven't touched my PSP since GTA:VCS :l doubt I'd buy another if there was.

Wow.
I use it everyday to listen to music.
And on occasions to show pics of us to our family.
2009-01-17 20:39:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824


Sorry if this is hijacking the thread but I am responding to a post, I'll get to the topic on hand at the end.


The big problem with the PSP... ...is the lack of good games. You can see a handful of decent games on the PSP. And that's assuming your taste is broad and mainstream.

The DS has an absolute tonne, and that's not including GBA and earlier backwards compatability in the earlier models.

TL;DR near bottom.

I really don't know why people think this. I find it very annoying.

According to Metacritic, the DS has 573 games while the PSP has 412 games. Which means the DS has 161 more games than the PSP has... though the PSP has quite a bit more than a "handful of...games".

Now I would consider anything below 50 as shovelware... and even that's being a little kind. The PSP has 29 games below 50 while the DS has 88. Which lessens it's lead in terms of potentially enjoyable games.

Now I don't know what you would consider a good game. I know review scores aren't the be all and end all but IMO it is the only way the quantify how many good games there are for a system.

If you take games above 75/100 the DS has 127 while the PSP has 121... so the DS doesn't exactly have a huge lead in terms of good games.

Above 80 is again barely in the DS's favour with 69:64.

And the DS inches further ahead above 85, 26:18.

And above 90 it's 4:1...

...**** this worked out far better for the PSP when I did it at the start of the year. I guess the DS has done much better than the PSP this year.

Still I've gotta say that by no means do I feel the PSP is a poor system, though I do feel that after doing the numbers that the DS is probably a better system because it has more support. I've played it though and still prefer the button pressing gameplay of the PSP to the stylus of the DS. And the use of emulators if you're willing to hack is a huge bonus... how many people here have played the fan-translated version of Mother 3? I don't even like RPGs and I love that game. Or can play Cave Story wherever they go?

Anyway I will accept that the DS has better software support, but I think it should be known that the PSP has many good games across a number of genres.


Strategy, puzzle, shooter, platforming, driving, recipe making

The PSP does have good games for all these genres. Strategy could include Disgaea, Jeanne D'Arc an FFTactics... two of which are expanded ports and one of which is an original title. They're SRPGs though... were you talking about RTS?

Puzzle there are some good ones. Echochrome and Crush comee to mind. Lumines has had many releases and is supposed to be excellent and extremely addictive though I haven't really played it. Puzzle isn't my favourite genre.

In terms of shooters we have Syphon Filter DM and LS, MGSO and the upcoming Resistance Retribution.

Platforming: Castlevania DX Chronicles which is an updated port but has become one of my favourite games of all time. It also contains CV: SOTN which is also excellent. Daxter is another great one for the system and I've heard good things about the Ratchet game.

And in terms of Driving we have two original Wipeout games, two Burnout games and Ridge Racer, all of which are very good.

Ok we don't have a cooking game but... a cooking game? Really? You're really using that as a reason to own a DS? I know it shows the diversity of the library but it wouldn't be a game that I would ever buy.

You missed a few genres such as Fighting... we have Tekken which is an excellent all round game.

We have two GTA games which supposedly replicate the console games pretty well. I know there is one coming for the DS but it is isometric and seems to hail back to GTA 1, London & 2, than the 3D titles.

And in terms of sports games I think the PSP has more, but I may be wrong. Virtua Tennis, Pro Evo, Fifa, Hot Shots Golf, Tiger Woods... maybe a few others.

TL;DR: The PSP has many great titles across a number of genres including all the ones Elbee mentioned except for the cooking genre. The DS does have more good games in each numerical range but the gap isn't as wide as you might think and I wish people would stop dismissing the PSP without doing their research. And if you throw in hacking you open up an enormous range of retro-games... including the entire GBA catalogue. And you can play all your old PS1 games... which, as far as I know, isn't illegal as long as you own the originals.

Topic-related: In the PSP 2 a hard drive would be nice, I don't know how they'll prevent hacking though. And since Memory sticks are expensive enough if you want to hold a number of games and is probably a small deterrent, it could increase the rate of illegal downloading. I'm not a fan of touch-screen to be quite honest and it would completely change the kind of games that would be made for the system... I kind of like the buttons. It desperately needs a second analog stick though and the position of the buttons could do with some tampering. A second analog really is the main thing and I would buy it immediately if the PSP 2 had one.
2009-01-17 21:04:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018


Amen to the above post.
You sir, just won the internet.
2009-01-17 21:22:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824


The only thing that would sell me on a PSP2 is to make it almost on a level to compete with THIS generation of hardware. Not graphics-wise, but on a level of:

interactivity
smoothness
intelligent design

Graphics mean very little to me as long as they are not distractingly bad, but some online FPS games would be brilliant, especially if they could put in a second thumbstick and get chat working properly. Bundle them all with working headphones/mics! They aren't ALL played on a bus, some of us play when the TV isn't available!
2009-01-18 18:01:00

Author:
flakmagnet
Posts: 1084


In response to pillaysteven, I must say that the games he mentioned are great. I either have and played them myself, or have heard great things about them. It's not that the PSP is without good games at all.

I live in Australia though. I go to any video game store, and the DS is completely outflogging the PSP hands down. Some stores don't even bother with PSP displays, and those that do it tends to be a very small section of space compared to every other console. The PS2 gets more shelf space than the PSP in every store I see, and I do shop around. And this is including stores that don't stock trade in games.

From my experience there are many examples of great games on the DS. There are more games coming out in my preferred genres (strategy, puzzle, rpg) than I can actually play for the DS. Comparing this to the PSP... well, it's just not nearly the same numbers I can find of good quality games. The fact that the DS is branching out into bizzare genre's like "Teach yourself Yoga" just says to me that it's really being an everyman's console and that the market is big enough to justify such niche things.

Speaking to computer game industry friends and from the information I find about the industry as a whole in Australia, the DS is the biggest selling console in this country, and that's including the PS3, 360 and Wii, and of course the PSP. From the numbers I see, the DS has completely cornered the market in consoles in general, let alone the hand held side of things.

I am sure the stats are different in other countries. I hear in Japan, for example, that the DS and PSP is far more neck and neck. But what I see locally, the software support for the PSP is exceptionally poor. If it's not a super duper international smash hit, we likely won't see it here and so the choice is rather poor, which suggests that the game making industry is not supporting the PSP in it's current form.

I'm sure I've said it before though, but a hard drive and second analogue stick would really help a PSP2. A touch screen would be nice I guess. I'd like to see some firmware that can be used like a diary/address book/PDA sort of thing. That would make it a really useful piece of tech.

When I was using my PSP a lot more, I often would use it as an MP3 player or movie player. It's just that the constant battery recharging was a pain in the neck. Every other device I have barring my laptop and PSP only needs to be recharged every few days. I can always carry around a power supply for the laptop, but for a hand held device to have such a small charge seems like a bad design point to me.

I know the graphics levels are hard on the battery, but maybe that's why the DS works. Because the graphics demands are not so high, it can last for a very long time between charges. I still disagree with the more polygons = better games philosophy, and sales trends for the Wii and DS seem to be agreeing with me.
2009-01-19 01:09:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


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