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I want a Jak and Daxter game to come out desperately. I've been a long time fan of the series, and own all of the games, except fot Jak X. There is Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, but that's been nothing but a working title for forever. Here's some cool fanart I found for it. http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9757/8jadtlf1024gj7.jpg

2009-01-12 02:26:00 Author: Sonic5411 Posts: 712

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I think they have moved onto Uncharted now, look at there cycles, they started with Crash on the PS1, than Jak and Daxter on PS2 and now Uncharted on the PS3. They could make a new Jak and Daxter, but I wouldn't hold my breath. They are already onto Uncharted 2.

2009-01-13 15:04:00 Author: Darth_Spartan Posts: 813

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I think they have moved onto Uncharted now, look at there cycles Do not look at the cycles it is a horrific prophecy. PS1 Crash Bandicoot Crash Bandicoot 2 Crash Bandicoot 3 Crash Team Racing PS2 Jak & Daxter Jak 2 Jak 3 Jak X Combat Racing PS3 Uncharted Drakes Fortune Uncharted 2 Amongst Thieves Uncharted 3 Return of the half tuck Uncharted Racing

2009-01-13 17:18:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Do not look at the cycles it is a horrific prophecy. PS1 Crash Bandicoot Crash Bandicoot 2 Crash Bandicoot 3 Crash Team Racing PS2 Jak & Daxter Jak 2 Jak 3 Jak X Combat Racing PS3 Uncharted Drakes Fortune Uncharted 2 Amongst Thieves Uncharted 3 Return of the half tuck Uncharted Racing Uncharted Racing? I wouldn't be surprised. MySims racing, Nascar kart Racing, Crash Team Racing... A franchise isn't a franchise without a racing spin-off these days!

2009-01-13 17:21:00 Author: MarkoWolfy Posts: 445

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I hope it doesn't happen. Not that i wouldnt appreciate a new Jak & Daxter game, but the link between the founders of ND leaving the company and the developers change of artistic direction is hard to ignore. I assume that Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin were integral to the creation of Crash and Jak. Uncharted was an okay game, but has absolutely nothing in common with the titles released before the split.

2009-01-13 17:48:00 Author: accordion Posts: 76

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I'm not sure if the change in direction was just because Gavin and Rubin left. Insomniac, for example, can put out a brown and grey first person shooter like Resistance, and then put out a hyper-colourful game like Ratchet and Clank the year later. Crash and Jak, while they were both colourful platformers, were still very different games, especially when Jak 2 came along. In some way, Uncharted feels like a natural progression to Naughty Dog's games. It's more adult than Jak and has more gunplay, just like Jak 2 was more adult and had more guns than Crash. But it's still got platforming as its base mechanic, even if it is more of a Tomb Raider style platforming.

2009-01-13 18:04:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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Insomniac, for example, can put out a brown and grey first person shooter like Resistance, and then put out a hyper-colourful game like Ratchet and Clank the year later. Insomniac also employs 145 people while Naughty Dog employs 85 (per wiki) which is why they can be more productive.

2009-01-13 18:30:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Lost Frontier supposedly is still in the plans but its not develloped by Naughty Dog anymore. I'll have to dig a bit in order to find wich dev is doing the new game but if I remember right it's Ready At Dawn. (they made Ratchet PSP) .

2009-01-13 21:11:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Hmm the chains are weird but i think they are gonna have to continue Crash and Jak one day! ESPECIALLY Crash bandicoot just for me!!! well actually Crash went away cause Crash Bandicoot moved to Microsoft if im not wrong like Banjo Kazooie moving from Nintendo

2009-01-13 21:17:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419

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Lost Frontier supposedly is still in the plans but its not develloped by Naughty Dog anymore. I'll have to dig a bit in order to find wich dev is doing the new game but if I remember right it's Ready At Dawn. (they made Ratchet PSP). Ready At Dawn made Daxter and God of War Chains of Olympus (also the wii port of Okami Ratchet PSP (and Secret Agent Clank) were made by High Impact Games. Hmm the chains are weird but i think they are gonna have to continue Crash and Jak one day! ESPECIALLY Crash bandicoot just for me!!! well actually Crash went away cause Crash Bandicoot moved to Microsoft if im not wrong like Banjo Kazooie moving from Nintendo Crash is owned by vivendi and always has been (formerly known as Universal Interactive Studios)

2009-01-13 21:32:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Insomniac also employs 145 people while Naughty Dog employs 85 (per wiki) which is why they can be more productive. Yeah, I probably could've phrased my post a bit better. But when I said "... and then put out a hyper-colourful game like Ratchet and Clank the year later" I wasn't talking about how often they bring their games out compared to Naughty Dog, I was trying to point out how they don't just stick to one type of game, or one art direction. Really, trying to make the point that just because Naughty Dog is making Uncharted at the minute, doesn't mean they going to never make a cartoony game or revisit the Jak ever again. (by the way, the original Ratchet and Clank used a modified version of the Jak and Daxter engine. I'm sure I was going to bring this up for an actual reason, but I suddenly forgot. Nice trivia anyway, dunno if they don't still get help from ND with their engines or not.) EDIT: Oh yeah, this is something too: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/12/06/naughty-dog-interested-in-using-uncharted-engine-for-new-jak-and-d/

2009-01-13 22:22:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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(by the way, the original Ratchet and Clank used a modified version of the Jak and Daxter engine. I'm sure I was going to bring this up for an actual reason, but I suddenly forgot. Nice trivia anyway, dunno if they don't still get help from ND with their engines or not.) Yeah, I watched an interview with Ted Price and his career, and he talked about that. Naughty Dog was interested in their idea for Ratchet & Clank, so they shared some codes with them (mostly for environments). Then they exchanged some here and there. That's why they're so tight and there are those cameo appearances of each franchises' characters in each game.

2009-01-13 23:11:00 Author: Unknown User

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Ratchet PSP (and Secret Agent Clank) were made by High Impact Games. THERE the name I was looking for. Latest news were saying it's High Impact being responsable for Lost Frontier. Nothing has been officially unveiled yet though.

2009-01-14 05:22:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Alright, can anyone give a definite answer to the following question: Will a video game titled Jak & Daxter: The Lost Frontier (working title) be released for the PlayStation 3 console?

2009-01-15 01:16:00 Author: Sonic5411 Posts: 712

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As far as I know all we have is a title, nothing else has been revealed.

2009-01-15 01:18:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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As far as I know all we have is a title, nothing else has been revealed. That sucks. You seem to know a lot about what you're talking about. Wasn't Jak & Daxter considered a good franchise?

2009-01-15 01:21:00 Author: Sonic5411 Posts: 712

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That sucks. You seem to know a lot about what you're talking about. Wasn't Jak & Daxter considered a good franchise? I don't know how ND/Sony considers the franchise but the reviews and sales of the main trillogy and daxter have been quite good (depending how accurate vhchartz is). However Uncharted is also selling well and critically acclaimed with an additional advantage of being a more marketable brand.

2009-01-15 01:56:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Alright, can anyone give a definite answer to the following question: Will a video game titled Jak & Daxter: The Lost Frontier (working title) be released for the PlayStation 3 console? The tale wants it a PS3 title but i'd wait for some official news. In fact High Impact didn't say it's PS3, they only said their new game is not for PSP. (therefore prolly not for PS2 so it's PS3).

2009-01-16 15:31:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I hope they return to the Jak and Daxter basics. I hated Jak 2 and 3. Pretty much just ripoffs of Ratchet and Clank.

2009-01-16 18:23:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664

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I hope they return to the Jak and Daxter basics. I hated Jak 2 and 3. Pretty much just ripoffs of Ratchet and Clank. so true i want no guns! and thats why i liked Jak 1 the best!

2009-01-16 18:38:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419

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I thought Jak2 was absolutely awesome and different enough from the Ratchet series. Rachet didn't have as much story and the guns were far more at the core of the gameplay. Jak2 was more "complimented by guns" than anything else. It was more straighforward and simple. (and I loved it) Jak3 i'm not sure. Too much racing.

2009-01-16 18:49:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I liked all of them, they all had their strengths and weaknesses. Jak 1 was probably the best in terms of the environment and character design. Jak 2 was probably the best storywise. Jak 3, I couldn't actually say what it was the best at, but it wasn't a bad game by any means. The ending made me laugh though. Don't really see how Jak 2 was like Ratchet and Clank though. Unless Ratchet and Clank secretly had an open world and good story or something.

2009-01-16 19:43:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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Don't really see how Jak 2 was like Ratchet and Clank though. Unless Ratchet and Clank secretly had an open world and good story or something. Probably because of the added guns.

2009-01-16 20:05:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Jak 2 is a rip-off of Doom because Doom had guns and you could move around too

2009-01-16 20:56:00 Author: LFF Posts: 434

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Doom is so lame. The guy who made Tennis for Two should sue because they stole his idea of having graphics.

2009-01-16 20:59:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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Tennis for Two is uber lame. The guy who made Tennis should sue because they stole his idea of hitting a ball over a net and calling it tennis.

2009-01-16 21:03:00 Author: LFF Posts: 434

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i heard that naughty dog was going for either Uncharted 2 or Jak 4. They picked Uncharted 2 which is awesome but I love Jak and Daxter as well. Let's hope they make Jak 4 after Uncharted 2 is released.

2009-01-18 07:26:00 Author: muttjones Posts: 843

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i heard that naughty dog was going for either Uncharted 2 or Jak 4. They picked Uncharted 2 which is awesome but I love Jak and Daxter as well. Let's hope they make Jak 4 after Uncharted 2 is released. I liked it when you could free roam in J&D P.S: Nice sig mutt ^^

2009-01-18 07:52:00 Author: Boomy Posts: 3701

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I liked it when you could free roam in J&D P.S: Nice sig mutt ^^ Yeah, getting chased by the police in Jak 2, going anywhere in Jak 1, doing challenges in the desert in Jak 3, i was playing Jak 2 last night and all I did was run around the precursor temple! (love that place!)

2009-01-18 10:42:00 Author: MarkoWolfy Posts: 445

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Jak 2 is a rip-off of Doom because Doom had guns and you could move around too No. No it isn't. Jak 2 isn't really a rip-off of Ratchet and Clank, but any truly honest person would say....Yes it is. It is a rip off of Ratchet and Clank. It's Ratchet and Clank and GTA smooshed together in one horrible game. If you went into Jak 2 looking for the same kind of game Jak and Daxter was, you will be disappointed. The PS2 didn't have a game like Jak and Daxter before it, and to this day it is still one of my favorite games. But I HATED THE SEQUELS!!! But the next Jak game will PROBABLY be more like Jak 2 and Jak 3, because they've taken the story too far down the "Jak is a hardcore bad ***" road. I used to look at Jak like I looked at Link, just some average kid who's town or friend or world is threatened and he has to save it. But then when I heard Jak swear in the second game! I swear I was about to jump into the PS2 and slap Jak across the face for hearing that kind of language. Seriously Jak and Daxter and Jak 2 and 3 are two completely different series to me. Oh yeah, and Naughty Dog, you can't take a silent protagonist and make him talk in the sequel. Never. Ever. Ever.

2009-01-18 15:53:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664

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Ratchet and Clank is a rip-off of Spyro the Dragon because you press circle to attack and you can sort of glide a bit.

2009-01-18 16:14:00 Author: LFF Posts: 434

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Ratchet and Clank is a rip-off of Spyro the Dragon because you press circle to attack and you can sort of glide a bit. Good point.... http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/mac_images/images/smilies/Not-Amused.png*sarcasm*

2009-01-18 16:55:00 Author: Boomy Posts: 3701

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It's Ratchet and Clank and GTA smooshed together in one horrible game. Why is Jak a ripoff Rachet and Clank? Because it's having guns? Jak (series) came out first so why isn't Rachet and Clank a rip off of Jak because there's a awfull lot of jumping like in Jak? Both being platformer games and with guns doesn't necessarily make them a rip off of each other. According the logic you demonstrate, there's no existance of "genres" and everything is a rip off something that existed before ---- a reasonning that is wrong imo. Also, what makes it a GTA ripoff? Because the hub level is freeroaming? Because there's gun? Do you know how many games were freeroaming before Jak and Daxter? Do you know how many games had guns? lol The only aspect that Jak and Daxter and GTA are sharing is that you "trigger" your next mission in a freeroaming envirronement. But notice that in Jak and Daxter you only have one or two choices of mission to do (not counting bonus levels and races). This basically makes it far from being open like GTA where you can have up to 4 main mission triggerable at the same time. Basically, according to you, Jak is a ripoff of Mario 64 and not GTA. The Mario 64 hub world is freeroaming and with the start system you can accept even more levels (missions) at the same time than in Jak and Daxter...

2009-01-19 18:50:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I couldn't have put it better my self

2009-01-19 18:54:00 Author: Sonic5411 Posts: 712

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Why is Jak a ripoff Rachet and Clank? Because it's having guns? Jak (series) came out first so why isn't Rachet and Clank a rip off of Jak because there's a awfull lot of jumping like in Jak? Both being platformer games and with guns doesn't necessarily make them a rip off of each other. According the logic you demonstrate, there's no existance of "genres" and everything is a rip off something that existed before ---- a reasonning that is wrong imo. Also, what makes it a GTA ripoff? Because the hub level is freeroaming? Because there's gun? Do you know how many games were freeroaming before Jak and Daxter? Do you know how many games had guns? lol The only aspect that Jak and Daxter and GTA are sharing is that you "trigger" your next mission in a freeroaming envirronement. But notice that in Jak and Daxter you only have one or two choices of mission to do (not counting bonus levels and races). This basically makes it far from being open like GTA where you can have up to 4 main mission triggerable at the same time. Basically, according to you, Jak is a ripoff of Mario 64 and not GTA. The Mario 64 hub world is freeroaming and with the start system you can accept even more levels (missions) at the same time than in Jak and Daxter... Even though you make excellent points, it's really not worth debating as the "Game A is like Game B" people are so....Silly. I wish I was making this up, but I know someone who honestly said "Worms is a horrible rip-off of Lemmings" and he was quite an avid gamer too. >_<

2009-01-20 22:23:00 Author: UmJammerSully Posts: 1097

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Even though you make excellent points, it's really not worth debating as the "Game A is like Game B" people are so....Silly. I wish I was making this up, but I know someone who honestly said "Worms is a horrible rip-off of Lemmings" and he was quite an avid gamer too. >_< And then lemmings got moved to the worms developer.

2009-01-20 22:54:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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I wish I was making this up, but I know someone who honestly said "Worms is a horrible rip-off of Lemmings" and he was quite an avid gamer too. >_< Well obviously that's because both games have fairly small sprites, destructible terrain, and sometimes the characters die. Haha, I don't really understand why "X is a Y ripoff" arguments even exist. If developers weren't allowed to copy* be inspired by each other, we'd still be playing this: http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/history/images/D2231008_TENNIS4TWO-300px.jpg Assuming people were allowed to copy Charles Babbage's idea of having machines that do calculations. *apparently I can't use strikethrough. But if I could, this would be strikethrough'd so hard.

2009-01-20 23:53:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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Well obviously that's because both games have fairly small sprites, destructible terrain, and sometimes the characters die. Haha, I don't really understand why "X is a Y ripoff" arguments even exist. If developers weren't allowed to [copy]* be inspired by each other, we'd still be playing this: http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/history/images/D2231008_TENNIS4TWO-300px.jpg Assuming people were allowed to copy Charles Babbage's idea of having machines that do calculations. *apparently I can't use strikethrough. But if I could, this would be strikethrough'd so hard. This thread has gone horribly off topic. The whole third person shooter/platformer idea is very Ratchet and Clank-like. The atmosphere is very Ratchet and Clank. I have a feeling that Naughty Dog took one look at Ratchet and Clank and said "We want to make a game like this," Which is perfectly fine if they didn't ruin Jak and Daxter. The only similarities between J&D and Jak 2 is that Jak and Daxter are main characters.

2009-01-21 00:16:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664

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Just because a game has guns it makes it like another game that has guns? Jak and Ratchet and clank are completley different series. Plus they exchanged ideas between the games so there are going to be similarities.

2009-01-21 00:22:00 Author: Sonic5411 Posts: 712

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This thread has gone horribly off topic. The whole third person shooter/platformer idea is very Ratchet and Clank-like. The atmosphere is very Ratchet and Clank. I have a feeling that Naughty Dog took one look at Ratchet and Clank and said "We want to make a game like this," Which is perfectly fine if they didn't ruin Jak and Daxter. The only similarities between J&D and Jak 2 is that Jak and Daxter are main characters. Opinion is cool. It just doesn't work with debates.

2009-01-21 00:56:00 Author: UmJammerSully Posts: 1097

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This thread has gone horribly off topic. The whole third person shooter/platformer idea is very Ratchet and Clank-like. The atmosphere is very Ratchet and Clank. I have a feeling that Naughty Dog took one look at Ratchet and Clank and said "We want to make a game like this," Which is perfectly fine if they didn't ruin Jak and Daxter. I have a feeling they wanted to progress the series. The original was well received, but it got a bit of flak for being a bit generic in terms of the core gameplay (COLLECT SHINY OBJECTS. COLLECT A LOT OF THEM). And no, they didn't ruin Jak and Daxter at all. Unless everyone who liked Jak 2 and 3 is wrong or something? Also, isn't it a bit hypocritical to call people out on going off topic, and then carrying on the offtopicness yourself?

2009-01-21 01:23:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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the original had a great atmosphere that unfortunately we never got to revisit. I'm currently playing Assassins creed and seriously it feels more like Jak 2 than GTA. From the atmosphere to the horribly short lived contrived AI routines, all i keep thinking is Jak 2. Im definitely enjoying it though, and im glad had the creed to fall back to after the awful POP experience.

2009-01-21 01:37:00 Author: accordion Posts: 76

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I liked it when you could free roam in J&D yeah i loved that though there wasn't much to do there should be minigames and other stuff. I can envision this in the new game. P.S: Nice sig mutt ^^ oh yeah thanks Dr. Horrible rocks!

2009-01-21 11:55:00 Author: muttjones Posts: 843

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Well obviously that's because both games have fairly small sprites, destructible terrain, and sometimes the characters die. Haha, I don't really understand why "X is a Y ripoff" arguments even exist. If developers weren't allowed to copy be inspired by each other, we'd still be playing this: http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/history/images/D2231008_TENNIS4TWO-300px.jpg Assuming people were allowed to copy Charles Babbage's idea of having machines that do calculations. *apparently I can't use strikethrough. But if I could, this would be strikethrough'd so hard. Fixed... Use [*strike][/strike] tags (don't put the asterik in).

2009-01-21 16:02:00 Author: Unknown User

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Fixed... Use [*strike][/strike] tags (don't put the asterik in). Ah right, I was trying . Couldn't see anything in the Formatting tools either. Thanks!

2009-01-21 17:21:00 Author: Ace Posts: 118

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the original had a great atmosphere that unfortunately we never got to revisit. I'm currently playing Assassins creed and seriously it feels more like Jak 2 than GTA. From the atmosphere to the horribly short lived contrived AI routines, all i keep thinking is Jak 2. Im definitely enjoying it though, and im glad had the creed to fall back to after the awful POP experience. *GASP! ...take it back!

2009-01-21 22:48:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664

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