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I was looking through my news feed for video game sites and I noticed that there are a few giving some attention to an FFVII remake on LBP2. I think it's great when user generated content gets any attention from game sites at all, but it's unfortunate that the only time this ever happens is when it's a remake of something else. I think the only time I have ever seen a site post an article about a level that wasn't a remake of another game is way back when that guy made a calculator in LBP1, and even that was a remake of something else. lol It's just a shame that the kind of behavior we see in the community actually extends beyond it into the mainstream gaming media. Nobody ever gets this kind of attention for the characters or worlds or games they've created. I wonder why that is? Is it because nobody can make original creations that warrant that kind of attention? If that is the case, and I don't think it is, what incentive do people have to make those attention grabbing original creations when remakes are getting all the attention? Within the community, it's not just limited to remakes, but levels that take advantage of glitches and levels that are really pretty but have little in the way of character or gameplay. I know it's an old discussion. It's the kind of discussion that generates posts like... "Cool levels are crap. Lots of kids on LBP elevating crap and don't appreciate quality or originality." "I don't care about hearts. I just make what I want. I create because I like creating." These statements are true, but it's not the whole truth. We like to assume many quality levels go unnoticed because of kids who like to kill Justin Bieber on cool levels and Mario remakes, but when you see these sites putting the spotlight on remakes then you know it's not just kids. I think just about everyone wants to be recognized for something they do well at least a little, and on LBP, they want their level played. If you absolutely don't care at all, why publish? I see skilled creators that could do more and have done more, but even on their earth you can see the great levels they've made have been overshadowed by their lesser creations. The question is: Are we our own problem? It's easy for us to point fingers at someone else and say they are the reason for our problems with LBP, but what are we doing about it? I like remakes, I like glitches, and I like pretty pictures too. I also lose my motivation sometimes when I publish a level and nobody plays it. I tell myself I don't care, but I can't help from asking myself, "What's the point?" I'm no different. I don't even really know what the point of this topic is. I don't have the answers. Maybe I just think we're not asking the right questions. How do we foster a better creative environment? It should be easy right? It would benefit all of us as players and creators. LBPC does its part. I try to do my part with a hub for underplayed levels. It just never seems to be enough.

2012-09-11 21:37:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527

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(((Bit long and ranty, but let me preface it by saying this is NOT a criticism or attack on anyone for "caring too much" although it might read that way. If that were my message I'd be trapped in my own caring too much, by replying! Also, in case there was any question: I think discussions like this are completely valid.))) Saw the FFVII Youtube via Kotaku. It's definitely polarizing -- some think it looks great, some think it looks like slop. There's infighting on Kotaku over the excess/lack of appreciation for the video. I imagine other game blogs that have featured the video are having similar conversations. "[X] is why we can't have nice things!" Heh heh. In a Venn diagram, "we" the forum commenters are a subset of "we" the players are a subset of "we" the Youtube watchers, at least in terms of number of active users, but none of us necessarily influences the other. Certainly, every site that has a comment system breaks off into another subset. What happens in the game doesn't dictate what goes viral on Youtube, or what gains traction in those other subsets; they are all separate from each other. Even though they all completely overlap, because we all read blogs, we all play games, we all have watched a video online somewhere, sort of thing. It's no surprise a Mario thingie or a Final Fantasy thingie will be given attention across all subsets, because there are people in each of them who have heard of Mario or Final Fantasy and they can appreciate it from their tiny corner of things without having any interaction with the rest of the world. Here's my perspective on the Internet: if I link to picture of a person with a funny hairstyle, you might laugh and send it on to someone else, from the position of "it's kind of weird" and "hey I have gotten haircuts/I realize fashion can be ridiculous". But for sure that picture is p*ssing off hundreds of thousands of hairstylists who work their whole lives for a bit of recognition and can't believe some dumb haircut went viral for no reason. Imagine StyleCutz.net/forums discussing how "they" the community might be to blame for ruining fashion. Maybe? But they're just one hair-related website out of hundreds. As for me, a person who is equally to blame for relinking the funny picture, all I did was read another blog by a friend. Or Googled something. Then over at Vogue.com, and over at LulzDailyHilarious.com, there are groups of people I'll never think about or interact with having arguments about the hairstyle. (Vogue: this is a disgrace, I'm cancelling my pay subscription, the community is in decline) (LulzDailyHilarious: this is a disgrace, I submitted two dozen funny cat videos and this is the photo of the day???)... etc. Pull back far enough and the Venn diagram is just one big circle titled "Internet". I don't think that "we" the forum commenters are a problem, for sure. I don't think that "we" the nameless, faceless propagators of terrible or uninspired levels are a problem either, without admitting that LBP is its own problem, being a social network. And while a viral video might give lots of people the wrong idea of LBP's worth, or inspire the wrong kind of creativity, it can only be "our" problem if it influences everyone. Which can never happen: again, we may be subsets of each other, but we don't determine how things work anywhere else. Pull back all the way, though, and ask: are "we" the Internet ruining ourselves? Well, of course we are. Just look at the state of it! This is bordering on philosophical rambling but, to answer your question: I think things are just fine.

2012-09-12 03:25:00 Author: Unknown User

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I think its cool i my self remake game levels i do it for the funn I fill like i can show off my skills by doing remakes and yeas i want to be recognized for something i wont lie lol.I guess im to blame shame on me lol theres been a few times iv made new things but no one plays them.. I get great feedback on my remakes so i just keep going . Till im out of things to remake.

2012-09-12 03:40:00 Author: Lbphart3 Posts: 813

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An article with the words "Final Fantasy VII Remake" give game media sites a huge amount of hits... Which I imagine, equals money from advertising... The creator asked most of those sites to feature his level, so I wouldn't feel too bad. Plus, creating your own set of characters and story, and expecting alot of plays, is WAY harder than someone doing a remake. Existing IPs are something people seek out to play, because they're already familiar with them, and want to know if that creator has done it justice. This Final Fantasy VII remake creator has also been Crowned for these levels too... Which I certainly didn't expect... Thought the old crown would be alot harder to get than this. It must have made someone from Mm smile I suppose...

2012-09-13 03:03:00 Author: Scarface Posts: 31

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Other people might not know what's good and what isn't by LBP standards, so they need something to compare it to. Remakes do that.

2012-09-21 22:34:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893

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