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Aren't the "Mature people" Really Immature?

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OK for starters this is the honest to god first time i have ever seen or i guess wrote a thread like this, with this topic. For those of you who take great joy in coming to these threads just to say that this has been posted somewhere or pretend like your somehow overworked because of the threads about the community, just leave...Or if for some reason you can't just know i plan on removing this thread after i get my opinion out and well i guess depending on the reactions. Besides, this one is a bit more original...

OK... Right now on the cool pages (yes the pages you all avoid) has a level about how immature lbp is. And while its true that generally all of the community is immature, thats not whats bothering me.

What bothers me is the community members that say they ARE mature, this is what bothers me.

If you read the comments you will find a good portion of people who "think" they are mature, when to me they aren't.

Would a mature person of the community who knows to just ignore the spam levels come to a level just to say something that has been repeated many times before? Would a mature constantly use the most annoying phrase i have ever heard "This isn't TrollCopySpam" Or "LittleBIGbully" <----- (possibly the most stupidest thing i have ever heard) Or would they constantly repeat about how they need to stand up against the bad people and restore the community? Would they make a level complaing about another level complaining about a person? (<---How do these idiots not see the endless cycle) Ooooo i love this one, are they so mature people feel the need to spell like a monkey and swear like a sailor? And people who seem to get into this habbit of saying how "sad" it is or that there is some proper way to play a video game. Last one out of many but dun dun dunnnn,
There is no way to save the community! For those who are still stuck with the thought that one day MM will come and just remove the ugly from this community well guess what? IT NOTS HAPPENING. Also Typing Like This Is A Kids Way To Pretend You Are Mature.


No they wouldn't say that. I will fully admit that im immature, and i none of you should think being immature is bad, All of us at one point have been immature, and eventually you get mature. But i don't remember giving a crap about what a bunch of comments said on a level. But hey when i matured i stopped, i regret being an idiot and have said sorry to people i ticked off. So again i repeat this thread is to tell people who think they are mature that they aren't, now if you aren't doing any of that then your mature, those who are getting ticked because i put them into the category of vicious children that love attention stop, because some people "can be more mature then others, but are still immature" <---- That is a key line that people forget. Now, i would love feedback, since im sure ill get some wonderful comments from those who decide to tell me about how this topic is overused, in general if you have something to add to this or comment about it, then you reply otherwise don't waste my few moments of joy i get when i see a new comment
2012-09-07 18:27:00

Author:
ryano775
Posts: 32


I have come to realize that... Being immature on a game like LBP, is a very fun way to help relieve some of the real life stresses of the world. Sure, there are times when one should act "Formal" and take things seriously, but for the most part, messing around with friends is harmless entertainment! There is nothing wrong with having a little fun. That is, as long as you don't get in the way of others. For me, I try to present myself whenever I type as being a very formal person, but behind the curtains, that isn't necessarily the case. Sure, there are a few bad seeds in LBP who are immature in the name of hate, getting gratification off of others anger/sadness, but for the most part, I just find that many players might be over reacting about this "Immaturity" problem. And yes... There are plenty of little kids running around this community online, but if you do your best to avoid these players, LBP can become a much more enjoyable experience. Just try to surround yourself around people who you like being with, Have fun! 2012-09-07 21:26:00

Author:
Flyingpotaotoman
Posts: 41


Yes Mr. Poopy Pants, I Totally Agree.2012-09-07 21:31:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


I haven't been active in LBP for eons now, but I keep seeing people complain about "emos" or, well, people having fun or whatever. And then they go on about "Fixing" LBP. And I'm like, wut? They're having fun their way, so... what? Why not?

But yeah, I pretty much agree, people who make crusades about "Fixing" LBP by ridding it of people they don't like are more annoying than people having fun. Then again, I haven't been in LBP in forever, so I'm just going by the small traces of things I see around these parts.
2012-09-07 21:54:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Trying to get the community to be mature is like trying to shove a keg of mustard down your throat, and then forcing your second cousin to rub your stomach sensually. No I don't know what I mean by that, but it's the thought that counts.2012-09-07 23:55:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487


It's basically a law of nature that a person who needs to proclaim what s/he is in order for it to be noticed, is not that thing.

Maturity isn't something a person can say s/he is, and it isn't something we get to judge in ourselves. Same with intellect and respect. These are nebulously and constantly redefined traits that others judge in us in split seconds with infinite and unknowable biases influenced by other split seconds, over and over, in every interaction we have, a thousand times a day.

It's also a law of nature that in order for a person to understand this, a person may have to self-identify as mature, intelligent, respect-worthy, etc. and look like a big dumb stupidhead a million times before s/he gives it a break and stops doing that. And then relapses a million more times by pointing out "oh yeah I moved on when that all got too you know, drama, because eff that".

Heh heh.
2012-09-08 01:18:00

Author:
Unknown User


What I like most about the OP is that he is not afraid to admit that he is immature, and that for once, it's maybe not that much of a bad thing.
Many forum members consider themselves "above" the community, and tend to rub that in our (and their own) faces. Few times has one here considered out loud the fact that maybe we aren't really "above" in any way shape or form. We're more congenial, yeah, as well as being older and more grammatically correct and more likely to fairly review levels and, perhaps, be more likely to be "mature". But we notice this, and I guess this is kind of our downfall. If you look at these forums, there are many times where we appear condescending, and sometimes downright contemptuous.
It's our treatment of the noobs that show this. By "noobs", I mean relatively "immature" people (but noobs is shorter-don't take it as something offensive). I clearly remember a littlebigplanetarium thread about whether we should disable reviews and comments on the community spotlights http://www.littlebigplanetarium.com/topic/5401-lbpc-spotlight-censorship/. Here are a few choice quotes:

Well, I think you have every right to disable comments and reviews, but it will mostly likely bring on a lot of hate from the community complaining about their supposed "rights".

I say disable them. almost all the comments and reviews are by trolls or people who just plain don't understand. Whenever i read any of them comments or reviews i felt like i just wasted a bit load of my time or got a bit mad from reading them annoying people.

You clearly stated everything necessary in the player profile and if people are too lazy to verify or too obstinate to admit that they're wrong, screw 'em. Let idiots be idiots. I will find it hilarious.

I say screw the masses, they had their chance to show their appreciation for the spotlight but decide to hate against in now. Yes the people who are members of LBPC and some that are not may be a bit upset, but it's only a hub, if people can't comment or review the only thing left to do is play the levels. Isn't that the whole point of the hub?

*MISTER X* make an extremely good point. In reality we have no need for reviews or comments on a level that does not require suggestions or criticism.

However, I doubt the community will take it this way, and will instead continue to bash us for "Silencing the community to hide the truth"
I mean no disrespect for the posters, but...
Not only are people expecting noobs to act on their level and think as they do, but they scorn them when they don't. I must confess, my blood boiled a bit too when I read the reviews on some of the later community spotlights. That doesn't mean it's fine to make fun of them on the interwebs. There is an attitude like this at many threads, specifically those complaining about the community, where one and many a poster adopts a "Wow, look at these immature kids. They're so stupid/immature/idiotic/rude/annoying/not-sharing-of-the-opinion-that-I-have; I'm so glad we can all talk about how bad they are. People need to realize. These are NOOBS. To expect them to operate as we do LBP-wise is already a demand, and to scorn them when they don't is a whole new level. It's the rudeness of the forums towards kids that really boggles the mind. I know rudeness is bad, but when people act surprised I have to look at them and ask, "Have you ever been a kid?" To get mad at them for ranting about the Community Spotlight because they don't understand how they work is to get mad at them because they got upset that the ice cream tuck doesn't give out free ice cream. Tell me, when has a kid ever said "I've done the research, and Santa Claus can't possibly exist."? Never, as far as I know. But that's what we're expecting of them, and when they don't meet our expectations, it pushes a button on all of us. Many of these noobs just see the top review and just go with it. We can't blame them, the only thing we can point at is human nature, and that includes ourselves.

So people won't have to read this huge lump of junk if they don't want to, I've put in a TL;DR:
I feel we're to condescending, we should really stop scorning noobs so much.

Also, we've all been immature, nobody's perfectly mature, mature sounds weird when you say it many times out loud.
2012-09-08 03:20:00

Author:
Kalawishis
Posts: 928


If your main point is that immaturity is demonstrated by a need to express how immature others are then I think you've demonstrated perfectly that you're correct. j/k2012-09-08 09:04:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


People aren't afraid to hide their stupidity on the internet. It's fun.2012-09-08 19:19:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


It's not really encouraged to be serious or mature. Heck, look at the threads here on LBPC. Long thought out intelligent responses of topics don't get thanked while short joke responses are thanked the most. This happens all the time. Lol! Even here look at Ungreth's thanks in this thread.

For as long as jokes & derpy levels are rewarded with praise, it will continue.
2012-09-08 19:33:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548


Oh coolio People do agree, with this, This morning I thought I had something to add to this but I must have forgot.2012-09-08 22:27:00

Author:
ryano775
Posts: 32


It's not really encouraged to be serious or mature. Heck, look at the threads here on LBPC. Long thought out intelligent responses of topics don't get thanked while short joke responses are thanked the most. This happens all the time. Lol! Even here look at Ungreth's thanks in this thread.

For as long as we carry on playing with our sackdolls, dressing em up all pretty and sending them on adventures, it will continue.

There....fixed that for you
2012-09-08 22:52:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


It's not really encouraged to be serious or mature. Heck, look at the threads here on LBPC. Long thought out intelligent responses of topics don't get thanked while short joke responses are thanked the most. This happens all the time. Lol! Even here look at Ungreth's thanks in this thread.

For as long as jokes & derpy levels are rewarded with praise, it will continue.

Hail the great Satan.

Also, "serious" LBP conversation is a bit of an oxymoron, don'tcha think? LBP isn't meant to be a serious game, and by proxy the community shouldn't be either. Anything related to dragging moist and threatened sacks through various tight places shouldn't be taken super seriously. There are lots of issues, sure, but ultimately they mean barely anything.
2012-09-08 23:57:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487


While certain aspects of Little Big Planet can get obnoxious. Such as Emo's spamming up a level's album with close up shots of their face repeatedly, there's nothing people can do to really stop them. And instead of complaining about it they can just ignore the behavior.2012-09-09 00:51:00

Author:
bigMoose_
Posts: 183


Hail the great Satan.

Also, "serious" LBP conversation is a bit of an oxymoron, don'tcha think? LBP isn't meant to be a serious game, and by proxy the community shouldn't be either. Anything related to dragging moist and threatened sacks through various tight places shouldn't be taken super seriously. There are lots of issues, sure, but ultimately they mean barely anything.

Yeah well, I don't recommend that anyone take it as seriously as I do.
In a game where user generated levels & games are shared on servers, there should be some point of taking it a bit seriously. Especially considering the potential of exposure you can get. If everyone chose to make retarded levels we'd have no real progress in innovation. I think a problem lies in those who promote such levels with joke reviews & hearts. In an extreme case of that, we'd have the same crappy levels that get tons of plays over & over... ****..

At the same time though. You have to be a pretty huge idiot to not be able to identify such a level before you play it, but perhaps it is good to just sit back & laugh at something ridiculous every once in awhile. Same goes for creation I guess.
2012-09-09 02:17:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548


Hail the great Satan.

Also, "serious" LBP conversation is a bit of an oxymoron, don'tcha think? LBP isn't meant to be a serious game, and by proxy the community shouldn't be either. Anything related to dragging moist and threatened sacks through various tight places shouldn't be taken super seriously. There are lots of issues, sure, but ultimately they mean barely anything.

I agree. Somewhat.
You can't really take a game lightly with such a big user-generated content aspect. If you've worked hard on a level, chances are you're going to take it seriously. I know some creators can churn out great levels in a matter of weeks, but usually you have to work hard. And if you work hard, chances are you're going to take what you're working on seriously. And if you take that seriously, you're going to take this game seriously (or at least the create mode aspect). Say you publish your level (ha ha, nobody PUBLISHES anymore, that just un-cool nowadays) and you make a nice little thread about it in the Level Showcase, following Rialrees to the millimeter, and the LBPC community pulls a total The Last Thing You See on your level. Not only that, a joke level above that took 30 seconds to make (with 23 of those seconds being booting up LBP) completely overshadows your level. If you don't feel anything, congratulations, you are bonner123.
But an average sack may be a bit mad about that. This is exactly the reason why I didn't make a thread for my Progressive level entry, Pro_Scary Room because there were probably levels that creator's worked hard on and I didn't want to overshadow them.

Heck, look at the threads here on LBPC. Long thought out intelligent responses of topics don't get thanked while short joke responses are thanked the most. This happens all the time. Lol! Even here look at Ungreth's thanks in this thread.

No no, you have it wrong! Short joke responses are the epitome of intelligence. Einstein's whole theory of relativity was originally just "YOLO".
2012-09-09 03:31:00

Author:
Kalawishis
Posts: 928


Its looks like you want this place to be less immature. Well in my experience on forums thats really something impossible to do if that was your plan.
I do like it that your talking about immaturity that some people shouldn't act so negative childish, you describe this as a ''self awareness'' thing and I really hope it touched some immature people like: bad trolls, whiners, bullies and haters to convert positively so that this community can be a funnier and happier place .
2012-09-11 22:31:00

Author:
dutch
Posts: 54


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