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Hey all. Just wondering if anyone else has backed the Ouya on kickstarter?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

For those who haven't heard, Ouya is a new $99 home console being developed by Julie Uhrman (previously of IGN) and Yves Behar of fuseproject (the guys behind Jambox and chief designer of the $100 laptop/one laptop per child).


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/07/ouya2-600-2012-07-11-2.jpg

It runs on Android, on the Nvidia Tegra 3 quad-core processor with 1GB of RAM and 8GB of HDD space. At the moment it has bluetooth, Wifi, 1 USB port and 1 mini-HDMI port. There are lots of calls for the addition of an ethernet port but it is unknown at this point if it will be added.

They have also put a lot of work into the design of the controller. Expect the usual DPad, 2 analogs, 4 face buttons and 4 shoulder buttons. I also has a touch-pad which seems to be to make Android ports easier, but also enable new gameplay possibilities. Based on the designs it does look quite nice:


http://cdn.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ouya-gaming-console.jpg

Also they have created a GUI for Ouya which seems similar-ish to that on the 360. They show it functioning in the video on the kickstarter page and it appears nice and fluid.


http://gadgetronica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/news-ouya.jpg

The Ouya kickstarter launched on July 10th with a goal of $950,000. In reached this goal in 8 hours and had reached 2 million by 24 hours. After 8 days it currently standed at 5 million dollars raised.

Since its announcement and after the hype died down over the 1st 48 hours, a lot of discussion began regarding how real the Ouya was. At the moment it is still a prototype and the images above are CG (except the GUI). None of the people behind Ouya have taken a games console to market before. Their funding has thus far been generated from friends and family (what that means exactly is uncertain). They have stated that the $950,000 was all that was required to bring it to production (which many people feel is a very low figure) with the rest of the 5million being spent on making more consoles available and on software.

Regardless of these uncertainties I feel that the Ouya could really be something special. It won't have the power of the PS3 or 360. It WILL be more powerful than the Wii. But regardless of graphical capabilities, the Ouya is an open-console. They welcome people to hack the console to their hearts content (though at this stage it is uncertain if hacking will disable access to the Ouya store... some people are worried about pirates).

What this means for developers is that every single console is itself an SDK. There are massive barriers in the current console gaming industry, insurmountable for many indie developers. What this console will mean is that indie developers (for the low cost of $99, along with game development software costs and their time) will be able to develop and release games on a home-console platform with a controller without many of the hurdles that MS and Sony have in place, the least of which are expensive SDKs.

So I guess it will be like the Android market, almost solely for games but with the games aimed at players in front of a TV with controller in hand and not constricted by a touchscreen being the only input. Yes shovelware will obviously happen but just think of the possibilities.

Anyway, I was one of the first 1000 to back it at $95 and can't wait to see more. What does everyone else think?
2012-07-18 17:36:00

Author:
Burrich
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgMLhHq9yjo

https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=72277-New-Android-Console-Ouya
2012-07-18 18:35:00

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Speedynutty68
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Sigh... didn't see it... and after putting the work into that post. Ah well. Someone merge with the old one maybe?2012-07-18 18:47:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018


Well, this topic is better than my topic. At least the first post is. So yeah, I'm ok with this being the new topic.

Anyway, I didn't donate. Partly because I have no money, and partly because I'm not into funding pie in the sky deals. Also, no money.

Still, this sounds like it could revolutionize the industry. Or, it could flop and be forgotten. Either or. But I definitely agree that consoles are too expensive to make games for, and this could be the shot in the arm they need. But then again, still need to see more.

but no matter how you slice it, that's an impressive sum of cash they raised.
2012-07-20 20:20:00

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RockSauron
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seems interesting. now shoa me some geampluah!!!2012-07-23 06:15:00

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Sunbunny23
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/posts

ONLIVE is coming to Ouya at launch, along with everything on Onlive. So that there is a lot of the more AAA stuff.
2012-07-27 16:56:00

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RockSauron
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/posts

ONLIVE is coming to Ouya at launch, along with everything on Onlive. So that there is a lot of the more AAA stuff.

I'm still not impressed. OnLive didn't do so well thanks to their terrible input latency, low quality (especially for those with a bad ISP), and the fact that you don't any of the games at all (I know it's a video game rental service, but some people would rather own the game than rent it). Not only that, but the AAA titles aren't new: OnLive gets them kind of late, and Ouya lacking any exclusive titles doesn't make them seem so strong. Ouya has a better shot at staying alive by introducing Netflix than OnLive.
2012-07-27 21:07:00

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CyberSora
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This is stupid and will fail horribly. They're either going to make horrific losses when selling it because they can't make it cheap enough, or it will be terrible quality and inferior in every way to PC's, the new Xbox and the new PS (whenever they come out) making it a waste of money.2012-07-31 10:36:00

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Unknown User


This is stupid and will fail horribly. They're either going to make horrific losses when selling it because they can't make it cheap enough, or it will be terrible quality and inferior in every way to PC's, the new Xbox and the new PS (whenever they come out) making it a waste of money.

it's for people who can't afford a real consle. this is going to work since the kick starter is 6 times more than what they needed. they say something about hd so quality should be good enough. had you watched/read the whole thing about it? it haves minecraft. it can't be terrible if mojang is supporting it.
2012-07-31 10:53:00

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Sunbunny23
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Ok so it has minecraft... great. Except it's not that great.

If people want a games console that is cheap, they get a console not a PC. Consoles aren't that expensive, and as with anything, it's far better to save your money and wait until you can get something that is better. You can get an Xbox 360 for like ?125, and that is actually not ****.
2012-08-01 01:05:00

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Unknown User


it haves minecraft. it can't be terrible if mojang is supporting it.

Well not quite.


Mojang has committed that Minecraft (and their other games) will be on OUYA -- but only if we prove that we can make a great product (that’s our job) AND enough people want their games (that’s your job). Show them with your numbers that you want Minecraft on OUYA!
2012-08-01 07:56:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Well not quite.

Well, I'm going to pre-order it in a few days because since they say it's open to hacking, even if it's not the greatest game system it will be good at something!
2012-08-05 01:49:00

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chinook3
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Once it's hacked people will buy it.2012-08-05 13:08:00

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BasketSnake
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19062200

Square Enix have got behind it. A bit early don't you think?
2012-08-05 14:02:00

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craigmond
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19062200

Square Enix have got behind it. A bit early don't you think?

With FF3 already running on Android it could just be a quick revision to the game to optimise it for the Ouya. Its a good way to test the market on the new system without having to commit too many resources.
2012-08-05 14:16:00

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Rabid-Coot
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It seems silly saying it will be more powerfull then the wii. He wii never even had HD. But not more powerfull then the ps3 or Xbox? It seems to me it'll be out of date hardware wise pretty soon, considering the Wii U is coming out soon.
Cheeper price doesn't exactly mean better. I highly doubt people will buy as much as the others. I mean come on the IPad is like 400 bucks and then there's cheaper tablets but they still don't sell as well.
2012-08-05 17:07:00

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SilverTriforce7
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I find this interesting because of the open aspect of it and the fact that I could write games for it and actually play them on a TV with a controller, but I must agree that I think a lot of people are hyping this as an actual competitor to the PS3 and Xbox 360 and will get a ton of good titles. It'll have to really prove itself first, and it's not even out yet. I also think selling at $99 is a bit unrealistic. Still, I'm looking forward to it I guess.2012-08-11 16:01:00

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in a few days I'll play whatever I want. Day-z here I come.
2012-08-13 19:18:00

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in a few days I'll play whatever I want. Day-z here I come.

1) What does that have to do with the topic at hand...?

2) It's DayZ. Not Day-Z.
2012-08-14 22:30:00

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OnLive, the pioneers of cloud gaming, are in dire straits and are preparing to file for bankruptcy, a source inside the company told Kotaku today. An OnLive spokesperson maintains that the OnLive service, which enables people to stream games to their computers and tablets without the need for dedicated hardware, will continue. But it seems as if the company itself is hitting some very hard times.

The source says that everyone at the company knew things were tight. This morning, an all-hands meeting was called at 10 a.m. this morning where CEO Steve Perlman said that OnLive would be filing for ABC bankruptcy in the state of California—a status that affords them a level of protection from creditors. Perlman also said that the company as it stands now would cease to exist and that no one would be employed by OnLive. A subset of employees would be brought on to the company created from the remains of OnLive.

Link to Kotaku article
http://kotaku.com/5935767/onlive-filing-for-bankruptcy-new-company-to-take-its-place?comment=51964937




According to a source close to the situation, the company called an all hands meeting at 10am PDT, at which the entire staff was fired. Some staffers may be rehired as the company transitions to its next unknown iteration.

Link to Mashable Article
http://mashable.com/2012/08/17/onlive-layoffs/



I don't really know much about Onlive, but seeing how they've already made some agreements to help with Ouya, I wonder what filing bankruptcy will do to their currently standing contract for streaming over a multitude of games to the Ouya console.

[Yes, I do know that in the quote I posted, it was mentioned that the service of streaming to computers and tablets would continue, but it never said anything about consoles.]

Anyway though, feel free to discuss.
2012-08-17 21:40:00

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in a few days I'll play whatever I want. Day-z here I come.

I assume your talking about the ouya, but you won't be playong anything you want. You can't play Zelda, Halo, or LBP. So no you won't be playing what ever you want.
2012-08-18 01:07:00

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SilverTriforce7
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I assume your talking about the ouya, but you won't be playong anything you want. You can't play Zelda, Halo, or LBP. So no you won't be playing what ever you want.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't supposed to be taken so literally.
2012-08-18 01:14:00

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Dragonvarsity
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I assume your talking about the ouya, but you won't be playong anything you want. You can't play Zelda, Halo, or LBP. So no you won't be playing what ever you want.

Thats a I'm building my own PC post. It can play Zelda some Halo and maybe some LBP.
2012-08-18 01:17:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Thats a I'm building my own PC post. It can play Zelda some Halo and maybe some LBP.

Can't play Zelda and LBP legally, though I don't think anybody cares about that when it comes to ROMS. You technically can't play Skyward Sword on the computer, unless somehow there's a device that mimics the Wii Motion Plus. Also its just not the same playing it on the computer compared to the original.


I'm pretty sure that wasn't supposed to be taken so literally.

Yeah I know I just felt like being a smart alleck. I'll try to refrain myself next time when somebody makes a comment is set up to be so easily disproven like that.
2012-08-18 02:21:00

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SilverTriforce7
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You technically can't play Skyward Sword on the computer, unless somehow there's a device that mimics the Wii Motion Plus.


You can use the Wii Motion Plus.


I don't really know much about Onlive, but seeing how they've already made some agreements to help with Ouya, I wonder what filing bankruptcy will do to their currently standing contract for streaming over a multitude of games to the Ouya console.

[Yes, I do know that in the quote I posted, it was mentioned that the service of streaming to computers and tablets would continue, but it never said anything about consoles.]

Anyway though, feel free to discuss.


Cloud gaming service OnLive has been acquired by a new owner, it said Friday. The move meant an unknown number of staff were laid off, but the company pledged to continue its operations. "The assets of OnLive have been acquired into a newly-formed company and is backed by substantial funding, and which will continue to operate the OnLive Game and Desktop services, as well as support all of OnLive's apps and devices, as well as game, productivity and enterprise partnerships," the company said in a statement.
"The new company is hiring a large percentage of OnLive, Inc.'s staff across all departments and plans to continue to hire substantially more people, including additional OnLive employees. All previously announced products and services, including those in the works, will continue and there is no expected interruption of any OnLive services," it said.
A company spokeswoman declined to provide more information to a small group of reporters outside the company's Palo Alto headquarters.
News of changes at the company came first on Friday morning when Brian Fargo of InXile Entertainment tweeted (https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/236533377249984512) "Their employees are sending out emails that OnLive (https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23OnLive&src=hash)A will be closed by the end of the day."
The tweet was quickly spread across the web and no information from OnLive was forthcoming.
Around 2pm some employees were seen leaving the building carrying packing boxes. Others entered and still more could be seen inside but no one had anything to say.
One person entering the building, when asked if he worked for OnLive, paused apparently unsure of how to answer the question, then said "Kinda ... sorta." He declined to say anything about what staff had been told.
One woman, a box in her arms, stopped as she left the building to say goodbye to a colleague who was entering.
A large pile of moving boxes sits in the building's basement parking garage.
OnLive operates an on-demand video gaming service that streams games to users via a TV adapter. The company runs the games on its server in the cloud so users don't require complex gaming hardware at home. OnLive's backers include Warner Bros., Autodesk, Maverick Capital, AT&T, British Telecom and The Belgacom Group.



http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230368/OnLive_under_new_management_will_continue_service
2012-08-18 11:24:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Have to say I'm not hugely surprised by OnLive going under, does anyone here know anyone who actually had and used one? I hadn't heard about it at all until a few months ago. It's a shame though, because it does show what a tight grasp on the market Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have on the market. Whether Ouya will change that or suffer the same fate as OnLive remains to be seen.2012-08-18 13:34:00

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kirbyman62
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I wanted to post about this device, found this thread, and decided to bump it instead of posting a new thread. I hope that's the right way to do it. This thread seemed like a great place to post.

First, I'm a little surprised to see such hate for the Ouya. I can understand not caring, but flat out hate? That seems a little odd to me. I myself am pretty interested in it. I'm not saying it's going to be great, but I think it has the potential to be.

$100 is really a very low cost these days to try it out. $100 for the console and a controller, that sounds great to me for gamers as well as budding developers. From what I've read, every console can act as a development kit, and there are no extra fees (from what I can find). It looks like you download the software to develop on your computer for free, and when you are done, you submit the game/app for free. If nothing else, budding developers can get a legitimate crack at the game industry for the one time price of $100...

And they are claiming that every game will have some trial period or demo, if not a "free to play" model where you pay for upgrades and extras.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to checking this out once it's released!
2013-02-05 18:15:00

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DistantWords
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The Kickstarter-funded Android-based console Ouya will be coming to retail in June for $99.99. Pre-orders are already up at Amazon, Gamestop, Best Buy, Target and Ouya's official site (http://shop.ouya.tv/).

Ouya CEO Julie Uhrman noted in an interview with the Wall Street Journal (http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/02/05/ouya-finds-a-friend-with-amazon/?mod=WSJBlog) that Kickstarter backers will receive their consoles in March, while those who pre-order from the Ouya site will receive them in April, a couple of months ahead of the retail launch.
While the console will be bundled with one controller, additional gamepads will retail for $49.99. "It's a premium price for a controller, but with the inclusion of the touchpad really makes it a premium in the marketplace," said Uhrman refering to the touchpad in the middle of the controller - a feature purportedly going to be in Sony's upcoming PlayStation 3 successor (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-01-playstation-4-to-launch-in-japan-and-north-america-this-year-but-not-reach-europe-until-early-2014-report).

http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles/1/5/5/4/0/5/2/136008839837.jpg/EG11/resize/480x-1/quality/91

Ouya raised over $8.5 million on Kickstarter and Uhrman has stated that there are more than 68,000 consoles on pre-order.

When asked about Ouya's software lineup, Uhrman noted, "We have about half a dozen to a dozen community sites with lists of as long as 200 titles coming to Ouya" and that "you can expect games from every genre, from publishers you know, triple-A publishers."

"We already announced that Final Fantasy 3 is coming to Ouya from Square Enix. We are definitely working on exclusive content, Final Fantasy 3 has a lot of exclusive features - it's the only version that's made it to the TV. It's a unique version that will be available only on Ouya."
Curiously, developers will be able to use the controllers for other things, like Apple TVs. When asked about this Uhrman responded, "We are okay with that. One of the promises of being open is you can use what we build for other things. But you can create accessories and peripherals for our device as well. At the end of the day, it makes our ecosystem richer."


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-05-ouya-coming-to-retail-in-june-for-USD100
2013-02-05 21:04:00

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Rabid-Coot
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They just announced there will be a new Ouya launched each year (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/07/expect-new-ouya-console-every-year/) with upgraded tech.

I knew it. There's always a catch.
2013-02-07 13:23:00

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SnipySev
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They just announced there will be a new Ouya launched each year (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/07/expect-new-ouya-console-every-year/) with upgraded tech.

I knew it. There's always a catch.

That's not necessarily a bad thing... The console itself only costs $50, if you take into account that the controller is $50 and the system comes with one. $100 - $50 = $50. I'd be willing to bet that they'll eventually offer the unit itself, no controller, for $50 at some point. You won't have to upgrade every year either. Skip a year or two, people will still be developing for the older units.

They may even offer upgrade packs for those willing to take apart their systems themselves... They seem to be encouraging people to tinker with their boxes and what not.
2013-02-07 15:00:00

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DistantWords
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psCoR4zmIpE

Didn't realise it was so small. Honestly, I don't think it's a good thing, the cables will end up outweighing it, it won't stand upright properly and the whole thing will look messy.

Also I'm not an expert on these things but is the fan required? Seems a bit silly for one bit of PCB.

One other thing I wondered, if the batteries run out where are these developers going to get new ones from?
2013-02-11 14:36:00

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kirbyman62
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