Archive: 22 posts

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Did they like didn't want other people to feel hurt or something because of the community booing their levels,or what?

2012-07-01 04:05:00 Author: bigl0uc0ntra Posts: 113

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I think they want to encourage new players to start publishing their levels too. It's not very encouraging if you're new and you recieve many boos because your level sucks

2012-07-01 09:35:00 Author: Deurklink1 Posts: 346

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Because it was a wrong option from the beginning. If you don't like a level there's no need to boo it. If it contains offensive material, good grief is the way to go. Boo are useless, only potentially hurting.

2012-07-01 11:07:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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This is kind of an old topic, and honestly I'd love to get over it, but here I am. Derp. Yeah, they removed it because it really didn't serve a purpose at the time. It only hurt feelings. So, they took it away and left the happy face there. So if you don't like it, don't bother to "like" it. But then that brings up the fact that some people think that NOW if people don't "like" it, they're sort of booing it. To some people, doing this hurt the Cool Pages, but honestly, it didn't change it much. It's had its ups and downs.

2012-07-01 11:33:00 Author: Sackpapoi Posts: 1195

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I wonder why they didn't keep the star system from LBP1. That worked fine.

2012-07-01 12:59:00 Author: PGdafrog Posts: 277

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It was a similar story with the stars feature on LBP1, although I liked it more than the happy and unhappy because whereas I would never normally BOO, LBP2 only ever gave you those two very linear ratings. So, sometimes when a level didn't deserve a boo because of X and didn't deserve a happy because of X then you were forced to stay neutral which I hated. I think the star would gave you more of a chance to think about your rating instead of just whacking happy or sad when you finish.

2012-07-01 13:42:00 Author: LittleBigSnooth Posts: 454

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The Boo feature is the worst of social networking: connecting people so they can essentially sh*t on each other in a passive, quasi-anonymously tracked way. It's lazy criticism. It's ambiguous. And most social networks that ever had its equivalent have gotten rid of it. The whole system of downvoting needs to go. It's the same reason LBPC has a "Thanks" button but no "You are a loser" button. That's not productive. And if someone really feels strongly and wants to type it out, they can, using their words, and at least provide some context and basis for discussion. With a Boo, you just feel the sting of rejection, or create that feeling in someone else, and the result is a lot of reaction Booing out of spite. LBP and LBP2 offer the following: Yay, Level Heart, Creator Heart, Level Comment, Creator Comment, Review, Yay/Boo for all comments and reviews, Good Grief, in-game text/voice chat, in-game emotional expression There's no shortage of ways to say what you think! Being a jerk requires just a tiny bit more effort now. I think that's a very good thing.

2012-07-02 04:40:00 Author: Unknown User

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We're already done with that issue. People used it to be mean. It does help tell that some level is bad, but people have abused it. One person boo'ed all of my levels for booing one of his levels. I bet he quits playing since there's nothing that can give people a hard time.

2012-07-02 05:26:00 Author: Apple2012 Posts: 1408

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Being a jerk requires just a tiny bit more effort now. I think that's a very good thing.[/color] Pointing out the truth and providing feedback is not being a jerk, it's being helpful. If a level sucks, it sucks. It's like holding a creator's hand and saying, "Your level had tons of flaws which make it suck, but that's okay since we pity you." Thanks to the removal of boos people who dislike a level for legitimate reasons don't have a say in ratings, yet people who like a level for legitimate reasons do. Why can't everyone have a say in ratings? I am happy to see the good side effect that people are detailing why levels suck. And it's not because they're pulling sh*t out of their heads. They should have a say in a level's ratings. Since I'm thinking about this, everyone should be obligated to justify their rating on a level in this game in their review. It only makes sense.

2012-07-02 05:28:00 Author: BIGGamerer Posts: 182

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mm wants people to have a dream. not a crushed one. btw we had boo gone months ago. you are obviously late XD. this is good and bad in my opinion.

2012-07-02 05:55:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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IMO if something is wrong or you don't like my level for any reason then you should stop being a lazy jerk and leave feedback of what you did not like in non-rude written detail. all booing means is "this level sucks and i won't say why" it's a lazy or cowards way out. you don't get a right of a opinion on my stuff if you don't want to actually explain what was wrong and how you think i should fix it/make it better. when you don't like something, constructive feedback is the only type that should be allowed in that case or you should just get out. which is why i always delete feedback that only says stuff like "this level sucks" or spam comments in general. they clearly just want to hurt my feelings or they just being lazy. one way or the other they loss the right of sharing their opinion the moment they act like that to me. and i feel the same for other people. if someone dislikes your level i think people should only be allowed to leave constructive feedback and not a rude lazy Boo. *mew

2012-07-02 06:16:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Pointing out the truth and providing feedback is not being a jerk, it's being helpful. That's very true! I think you miss my point. LBP and LBP2 offer no less than a dozen ways to communicate. The Boo is the worst of them, because it is an ambiguous, out-of-context, binary thing requiring none of the justification that you and I agree all voters should be required to provide in reviews and comments. The onus should not be on the player to discern a negative vote's meaning. If a player is going to leave a Boo, they should say why. Few did; they just stabbed out a Boo and moved on. Now, players of that type (who ARE jerks, for never leaving true feedback, only Boos) no longer have that option. They MUST leave feedback of some other sort if they want their feelings to be known. Again, that is a good thing. It's a step in the right direction. As for everyone else, pointing out "the truth" and providing feedback is a respected and much-encouraged practice that we call all agree makes creators, and the community, better.

2012-07-03 05:42:00 Author: Unknown User

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They could have star ratings on reviews instead of just the yay/boo system. Then maybe they could even calculate a star average from the reviews, which would be a fair reflection as those who have rated negatively would have (hopefully) justified their opinion. Therefore, at a glance a player can tell the score of the average review for that level. Like ratings in LBP1, but even better!

2012-07-03 17:56:00 Author: PGdafrog Posts: 277

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Because it was a wrong option from the beginning. If you don't like a level there's no need to boo it. If it contains offensive material, good grief is the way to go. Boo are useless, only potentially hurting. This, this, this and this. OmegaSlayer says everything right.

2012-07-03 18:05:00 Author: Cronos Dage Posts: 396

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I didn't think this would be the case but yay/play ratios have become fairly decent for determining the quality or enjoyment of a level. If anything it's a pretty solid ratio.

2012-07-03 18:10:00 Author: Dortr Posts: 548

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I didn't like that much lol I wonder why they didn't keep the star system from LBP1. That worked fine.

2012-07-04 06:54:00 Author: bigl0uc0ntra Posts: 113

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They could have star ratings on reviews instead of just the yay/boo system. Then maybe they could even calculate a star average from the reviews, which would be a fair reflection as those who have rated negatively would have (hopefully) justified their opinion. Therefore, at a glance a player can tell the score of the average review for that level. Like ratings in LBP1, but even better! Actually that would be good though.

2012-07-04 06:55:00 Author: bigl0uc0ntra Posts: 113

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lbp2= Facebook yet I say more?

2012-07-04 17:30:00 Author: WESFUN Posts: 1336

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I don't like the "You MUST give a review" idea everyone is getting because your just thinking about yourself really. Nobody wants to spend 10 minutes writing a review after they played a level. I myself am terrible at writing reviews so I rarely do it and when I do its something like "Cool Level". So instead of writing out a paragraph to review someones level you quickly rate up, down, or not at all. What a lot of your are saying is everyone should have to write a review on every level they play which would be ridiculous. Taking the boos out really just takes out options of giving feedback. Would you rather getting feedback from the ratio of boos and yays or getting no feedback because nobody yayed and there are no reviews. If kids get hurt that someone gave their level a boo switch back to the stars if they still get hurt by that they're probably just being a baby. I don't like that we lost the option to vote down levels because somebody was crying about it.

2012-07-04 18:14:00 Author: Halfire Posts: 132

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I don't like the "You MUST give a review" idea everyone is getting because your just thinking about yourself really. Nobody wants to spend 10 minutes writing a review after they played a level. I myself am terrible at writing reviews so I rarely do it and when I do its something like "Cool Level". So instead of writing out a paragraph to review someones level you quickly rate up, down, or not at all. What a lot of your are saying is everyone should have to write a review on every level they play which would be ridiculous. Taking the boos out really just takes out options of giving feedback. Would you rather getting feedback from the ratio of boos and yays or getting no feedback because nobody yayed and there are no reviews. If kids get hurt that someone gave their level a boo switch back to the stars if they still get hurt by that they're probably just being a baby. I don't like that we lost the option to vote down levels because somebody was crying about it. Nobody ever said it had to be a masterpiece, just a sentence or so to justify your yay/boo/star rating and to show that you have thought a little about your decision. Also, you wouldn't be forced to leave a review; those who don't want to leave feedback could just skip the rating process, which many people did anyways, even when they just had to click on a happy or sad face. I'd rather have one or two negative reviews telling me what's wrong with my level than a hundred non-descriptive boos.

2012-07-04 20:08:00 Author: PGdafrog Posts: 277

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Nobody ever said it had to be a masterpiece, just a sentence or so to justify your yay/boo/star rating and to show that you have thought a little about your decision. Also, you wouldn't be forced to leave a review; those who don't want to leave feedback could just skip the rating process, which many people did anyways, even when they just had to click on a happy or sad face. I'd rather have one or two negative reviews telling me what's wrong with my level than a hundred non-descriptive boos. The only problem I have now with this is that the majority of people who play pretty much every level don't even leave feedback OR a happy face. They may even say they loved the level, but not leave anything. When I look at my and many others' yay-to-play ratio, it usually seems as if more people didn't yay it than those that did. It's not like it gives the level a bad impression, I'm just saying it's sort of hard to tell sometimes what most people think of the level. Did they hate it or did they think it was "meh" if they didn't yay it OR leave a note? I mean, the whole reason they took the boo away was to make receiving and giving feedback easier, friendlier, and more efficient, but what's the point if nobody's using it? But I guess it was the same problem before. I just wish more people would leave feedback.

2012-07-04 20:54:00 Author: Sackpapoi Posts: 1195

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I think boos were actually good for critique.

2012-07-06 02:43:00 Author: donta133 Posts: 182

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