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Recently my friend loaned me his xbox for a bit, so I could have a taste of halo and gears of war. The cord that plugs into the wall to give the xbox electricity also has a big box in the middle of it before it plugs into the xbox. For the sake of confusion, Im going to call that box in the middle of the cord "george". When I unplugged the xbox, there was a light still on on george. When I turned on the xbox, the light ring around the power switch flicked on for half a second, then turned off, as did the light on george. The xbox light wouldnt turn on at all again, until I plugged the xbox into the wall. George lit up once again, then I unplugged the cord form the wall, geroge stayed on, and I hit the power switch. Once again the light turned on for a split second before turning off again, both the xbox light and george. Neither light would ever turn on no matter how many times I pushed the switch again, until I "recharged" george. This is a very old xbox. So what Im wondering is, is it possible that back when it was new, you could charge the xbox, unplug it, and have it running for a while without an outlet? I know batteries tend to dry out after years of work. What Im also wondering is would it be possible to do this with a PS3? I dont know much about that stuff, so I wouldnt know if like the PS3 needs way more power than a battery could provide for very long or something.

2012-06-21 19:57:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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No . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_adapter

2012-06-21 20:09:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Recently my friend loaned me his xbox for a bit, so I could have a taste of halo and gears of war. The cord that plugs into the wall to give the xbox electricity also has a big box in the middle of it before it plugs into the xbox. For the sake of confusion, Im going to call that box in the middle of the cord "george". When I unplugged the xbox, there was a light still on on george. When I turned on the xbox, the light ring around the power switch flicked on for half a second, then turned off, as did the light on george. The xbox light wouldnt turn on at all again, until I plugged the xbox into the wall. George lit up once again, then I unplugged the cord form the wall, geroge stayed on, and I hit the power switch. Once again the light turned on for a split second before turning off again, both the xbox light and george. Neither light would ever turn on no matter how many times I pushed the switch again, until I "recharged" george. This is a very old xbox. So what Im wondering is, is it possible that back when it was new, you could charge the xbox, unplug it, and have it running for a while without an outlet? I know batteries tend to dry out after years of work. What Im also wondering is would it be possible to do this with a PS3? I dont know much about that stuff, so I wouldnt know if like the PS3 needs way more power than a battery could provide for very long or something. That's not a charger. ._. It's a power brick. It converts the AC power that comes out of the outlet into DC power at the proper voltage that the Xbox 360 needs. The PS3 has one too, it's just INSIDE the PS3, (which is why the ps3 is bigger than the Xbox 360). The original Xbox had the power brick inside the Xbox, which is why it was so big. The main reason it's external is because they wanted to keep the Xbox 360 small. The power brick is also one of the main parts of the console that creates the most heat. Having it outside of the Xbox helps keep the Xbox cooler than it would normally be. For Sony, it's an effective cash grab. With the power brick outside, it is easily replaceable. But when it is inside it requires a basic knowledge of electronics as well as the added risk of accidentally wrecking the thing while trying to open it. Many consumers would rather pay to have it repaired than attempt to do it themselves. As an added bonus, the heat generated by the power brick shortens the lifespan of the console, requiring you to pay to have it repaired or replaced much sooner than normal. It's all about the money. But it's definitely NOT a charger. Lol.

2012-06-22 09:23:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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It's all about the money. Geesh...editorialize much? I prefer to think it's about aesthetics and creating a product that people will be happy to live with; external power bricks are extremely lame. Don't think for a second that the 360 design isn't also about money and keeping hardware costs down to maximize profit. Profit is good, it ensures they will be able to create the next generation of consoles. Power bricks are a sneaky way to fool the consumer into thinking the unit is smaller and more elegant than it really is...they never seem to show the console shackled to the power brick in the commercials. The slim PS3 still has an internal power supply...good engineering can overcome the heat issue. Search for some pictures of the slim internals, the massive fan makes it pretty clear that effective heat dissipation was a big priority for the design team. It probably would have been cheaper just to slap a big-ole-klunky power brick on it instead. I don't know Sony's failure rate for PS3 power supplies...but it's probably pretty low. I'm certainly happier with their decision to not make the power supply external.

2012-06-22 14:39:00 Author: fullofwin Posts: 1214

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I prefer to think it's about aesthetics and creating a product that people will be happy to live with; external power bricks are extremely lame. Don't think for a second that the 360 design isn't also about money and keeping hardware costs down to maximize profit. Profit is good, it ensures they will be able to create the next generation of consoles. You can prefer to think about it however way you want, but don't think for a second Sony actually cares about creating a product people will be happy to live with, (you somehow think a power brick is the devil reincarnated.) Of course a lot of their decision making is about the aesthetics, but guess what? It indirectly points at money. Sony isn't going to create an ugly console that no one would want to buy, same with Xbox (which is why the power brick is external, I never for a second stated Microsoft wasn't trying to fool the buyer into thinking everything was INSIDE the Xbox; but again, it's ALL about the money.) All these companies think about money. And they have somehow achieved the unachievable, making consumers believe they actually care about our opinions. If they really cared about the consumers, this year's E3 wouldn't be piled full of garbage 90% of their current fan-base wouldn't buy. But for Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo, it's about reeling in a different audience so they can, here it comes, make more money! Sincerely, Editorial Writer Whale Cappuccino

2012-06-22 20:01:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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Basically your childish tirade was un-warranted...you could have just answered the original question without flying off on a tangent. Sony also made a lot of good/consumer friendly decisions with the PS3...like being able to use standard blue-tooth and usb devices, regular lap-top hard drives, etc. no need to malign them so vehemently. If you don't like what a company is selling...don't buy it...if the market agrees with you, the company either makes a course correction or goes under. Darn that evil company going after the huge causal gamer market; they should focus solely on the niche games with low profit margins that I like to play. I'll let you get in the last word.

2012-06-22 20:24:00 Author: fullofwin Posts: 1214

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Basically your childish tirade was un-warranted...you could have just answered the original question without flying off on a tangent. Sony also made a lot of good/consumer friendly decisions with the PS3...like being able to use standard blue-tooth and usb devices, regular lap-top hard drives, etc. no need to malign them so vehemently. If you don't like what a company is selling...don't buy it...if the market agrees with you, the company either makes a course correction or goes under. Darn that evil company going after the huge causal gamer market; they should focus solely on the niche games with low profit margins that I like to play. I'll let you get in the last word. Oh the sweet, sweet irony in this post. Resulting in name calling and trying to belittle my posts and you somehow read my first post as a childish tirade? Lol... Please, direct me to the section in my post where I came even slightly close to a childish tirade. I'll be happy to eat my words. Zip your pants up fullofwin, your fanboyism is showing.

2012-06-22 21:01:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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2012-06-22 21:05:00 Author: Testudini Posts: 3262

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Um... fullofwin, Whalio (Odd calling you that XD) just said that it's all about money for the Sony executives... which is true. Just as he admitted it's the same for Microsoft. Saying that they have good products has nothing to do with anything. So, if you wouldn't mind ending this childish tirade, that'd be great kay? ... Well, at any rate, I'm pretty sure the original question has already been answered, so yeah.

2012-06-22 21:07:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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When I unplugged the xbox, there was a light still on on george. When I turned on the xbox, the light ring around the power switch flicked on for half a second, then turned off, as did the light on george. The xbox light wouldnt turn on at all again, until I plugged the xbox into the wall. George lit up once again, then I unplugged the cord form the wall, geroge stayed on, and I hit the power switch. Once again the light turned on for a split second before turning off again, both the xbox light and george. Neither light would ever turn on no matter how many times I pushed the switch again, until I "recharged" george. This is a very old xbox. So what Im wondering is, is it possible that back when it was new, you could charge the xbox, unplug it, and have it running for a while without an outlet? I know batteries tend to dry out after years of work. What Im also wondering is would it be possible to do this with a PS3? I dont know much about that stuff, so I wouldnt know if like the PS3 needs way more power than a battery could provide for very long or something. You see that with other electronics sometimes. When I unplug my TV the light on the front stays on for a few seconds. With computers its advised to leave them off for a few seconds before turning them back on too. I'm guessing there is some residual power left in the device or the transformer even after it's unplugged. Perhaps the reason you don't see it with the PS3 is because by design its PSU needs a higher power threshold before any power is passed to the motherboard. You can invest in a continuous power supply (https://startpage.com/do/search?&query=continuous+power+supply) which is basically a battery between the mains and the devices plugged into it like you described. I used to know someone who had one because they were worried about losing progress in games from power cuts.

2012-06-23 12:28:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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You see that with other electronics sometimes. When I unplug my TV the light on the front stays on for a few seconds. With computers its advised to leave them off for a few seconds before turning them back on too. I'm guessing there is some residual power left in the device or the transformer even after it's unplugged. Perhaps the reason you don't see it with the PS3 is because by design its PSU needs a higher power threshold before any power is passed to the motherboard. You can invest in a continuous power supply (https://startpage.com/do/search?&query=continuous+power+supply) which is basically a battery between the mains and the devices plugged into it like you described. I used to know someone who had one because they were worried about losing progress in games from power cuts. Yeah.. I think because of the capacitor(s) in the transformer and the little led light requires not much power.

2012-06-23 15:41:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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I'm not sure why some people get so defensive on here(or any forums, for that matter). You know this is a place to share OPINIONS, right? Not everyone is going to have the same viewpoint as you. Anyway back on topic, I wouldn't find ANY reason for consoles to have external battery packs that stay charged. I mean 99% of gamers aren't going to unplug their console and play it just for the heck of it being unplugged. However, it wouldn't be a bad idea to include something similar in case there is a power outage. Just imagine, you're sitting there battling the last boss and there is a blackout. BUT you have that little bit of charged battery to keep your console on for say... 30 more minutes. Could be beneficial. Interesting question though!

2012-06-23 23:29:00 Author: The5rozos Posts: 952

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it wouldn't be a bad idea to include something similar in case there is a power outage. Just imagine, you're sitting there battling the last boss and there is a blackout. BUT you have that little bit of charged battery to keep your console on for say... 30 more minutes. Could be beneficial. how would your tv work though? you would need some portable tv for that or something. this is 1 of the reasons why handhelds are created.

2012-06-24 22:16:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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Thats another question I have, is it even possible to charge a PS3? I mean, would the PS3 use too much power for an average battery to handle very long, or would there be some other obstacle?

2012-06-25 02:10:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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Thats another question I have, is it even possible to charge a PS3? I mean, would the PS3 use too much power for an average battery to handle very long, or would there be some other obstacle? You'd maybe get an hour or two out of a good battery You have to look at the cost/benefit of putting a battery in a console It would raise the production cost which would be added to the selling price while being almost useless in a device designed to be in one place all the time.

2012-06-25 02:34:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Thats another question I have, is it even possible to charge a PS3? I mean, would the PS3 use too much power for an average battery to handle very long, or would there be some other obstacle? nah. well...probably possible but why would you? if the power is out you can play it still but tv shuts down... kinda pointless. again handhelds job. since the vita crossplay and cross controller you could if the ps3 allows you to. but that would be useless when power is out so no remote play either or crossplay with your vita and ps3. ps3 is not a handheld. only 1 guy in the world made a ps3 portable. you can youtube it. laptops do not count.

2012-06-25 02:35:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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Well my friend has this portable DVD player(who uses DVDs anymore anyway), and it has two screens. One screen has the place where you put the DVD and displays it onscreen, and the other displays the same DVD, but its connected by the classic red, white and yellow wires. So he tested it, and he can plug in his game system and it shows up on the little battery powered portable TV screen. So if you could 'charge' a PS3 and plug it into the portable screen, you could play PS3 in the car. And you gotta admit, thatd be sweet!

2012-06-29 17:05:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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To play in the car you don't need a battery at all.. Since you have the screen sorted, just get one of those DC to AC convertors and plug it in to your cigarette lighter. Then you can just plug the ps3 in... or even the portable DVD player for that matter.

2012-06-29 17:18:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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To play in the car you don't need a battery at all.. Since you have the screen sorted, just get one of those DC to AC convertors and plug it in to your cigarette lighter. Then you can just plug the ps3 in... or even the portable DVD player for that matter. Yes, I could always do that. But what if I want to light a cigarette

2012-06-29 21:07:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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Yes, I could always do that. But what if I want to light a cigarette Buy a usb cigarette lighter and plug it into the PS3.

2012-06-29 21:23:00 Author: fullofwin Posts: 1214

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Yes, I could always do that. But what if I want to light a cigarette Don't have Bic lighters where you live? ...and you really shouldn't smoke anyway. Nasty habit.

2012-06-29 21:46:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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ps3>smoking. ps3 won by 100%. smoking is bad for your lungs which if too much or even 1 will lead to cancer or death :kz: stay away from them.

2012-06-29 22:20:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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Thats another question I have, is it even possible to charge a PS3? I mean, would the PS3 use too much power for an average battery to handle very long, or would there be some other obstacle? You'd maybe get an hour or two out of a good battery You have to look at the cost/benefit of putting a battery in a console It would raise the production cost which would be added to the selling price while being almost useless in a device designed to be in one place all the time. Depends on what you are doing on it, like everything, but there are some pretty power hungry laptops out there that use more than than the slim's PSU which can output 216 watts. Mainstream laptops typically come with 65 watt - 90 watt outputs. It is significantly more but also significantly less than the Alienware M18x, that during peak usage, draws 330 - 370 watts. Including a battery would send the cost up but essentially make it a cheap alternative to a gaming laptop with similar last generation performance. In the next system, say the PS4, including a battery would be very viable due to newer 22nm fabrication. It would displace the PSU though and you would need a power brick. I personally agree with Rabid and I think that is useless because laptops are becoming increasingly powerful and their prices are steadily declining (and it comes with a built in screen). And, I'd rather have a laptop with similar performance where I can have full control over the software/some hardware than a PS3 where you are stuck with whatever Sony gives you.

2012-06-29 22:45:00 Author: tanrockstan34 Posts: 1076

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