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Is it a Rip-off (voting game)

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Hello everyone! Welcome to our game Is it a Rip-off! In this game, there are situations where you get to decide whether the second use is a rip-off of the first use or not. One side has the original idea while the other side uses the same idea and defends their work. There will be arguments in the game. Who's ready to play?2012-06-19 20:34:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


What you mean?2012-06-19 20:38:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


What you mean?

You'll understand when you play the game.
2012-06-19 21:52:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Then why haven't you started it!?2012-06-19 22:18:00

Author:
Xtrahuman
Posts: 431


Ok, I'll start it. Please note this is all fictional. There are no such shows as Kids of the Club or The Animated Comedy Adventures.

Situation 1: Two Halloween Specials and One Haunted House

Background:

A long time ago (like 10-20 years), there was a cartoon called Kids of the Club, which only lasted eight seasons (one season per year). During Season 5, there was a Halloween special titled The Haunted House Journey. It's about the adventure through the haunted house in the desert. It contained scenes such as the lab scene where one of the kids turns into an animal, the library scene where people pop out of the spellbooks, and the scene where the kids run into the cellar, which caused to summon an undead skeleton. 20 years later (which was 10 years after the retirement of the creator of Kids of the Club), there was another cartoon with a Halloween special similar to The Haunted House Journey, but a few scenes are different. The show was titled The Animated Comedy Adventures, as the Halloween special was named Scary Houses and Silly Things. The special had the exact same plot and some of the scenes are identical. Instead, the haunted house takes place in a forest, and when the kids run into the cellar where the skeleton was summoned, it danced with the Can-Can tune rather than doing nothing. Another thing different between The Haunted House Journey and Scary Houses and Silly Things was the vampire as soon as the kids got to the front door. In the first one (The Haunted House Journey), the vampire chased after the kids, making them find an alternative exit. In contrast, the second one (Scary Houses and Silly Things) had the same scene too, but instead, the vampire passed gas, which forced the kids to find a cleaner and alternative exit.

The Lawsuit:

The creator of The Animated Comedy Adventures admitted that he saw the Season 5 Halloween special of Kids of the Club and meant to make a reference to it, but the creator of Kids of the Club took offense when he saw Scary Houses and Silly Things. Even if he's in retirement, he still claims the right to his show, including the plotlines. He sues the creator of The Animated Comedy Adventures for blasphemy (farting vampire and dancing skeleton) and stealing the idea of one of his show's Halloween specials for his show. They both argue about the Halloween specials.

Creator's argument (Kids of the Club):

The second creator has seen The Haunted House Journey when he was younger. Once one person owns the rights to a show he/she makes, nobody can take the show. The writer of The Haunted House Journey had the original idea, and the Halloween Special that premiered 20 years later for another show unrelated had a plot that is very similar. The lab scene, the library scene, and the escape were very identical. Even some of the quotes were identical. And changing some parts of it doesn't mean the idea is his (Creator of The Animated Comedy Adventures).

Creator's argument (The Animated Comedy Adventures):

Kids of the Club has ended a long time ago. It's no longer popular, and the creator has retired. Not only that, but having a similar idea of only one episode is fine. People who watch The Animated Comedy Adventures don't really know anything about Kids of the Club. The plot is similar, but not everything is identical. The Animated Comedy Adventures is completely unrelated to Kids of the Club, and there were only four kids in Scary Houses and Silly Things compared to the six kids in The Haunted House Journey.

The Question: Is Scary Houses and Silly Things a rip-off of The Haunted House Journey?

[A] - It is a rip-off! Just because a show has ended and is no longer popular doesn't mean you can't take ideas from what you seen from the shows.

[B] - It is not a rip-off. Just because one idea was used a long time ago doesn't mean people can't take parts of the idea today.

[C] - The situation cannot be resolved because the the second creator stole the idea, but the show is dead.

It's a long post, but I hope you understand what I mean.
2012-06-19 23:32:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


obviously A? If you take parts from someone's show you are, by definition plagarising wether the show dates back 2 or 20 years (until you get to the point of the validity of copyright which is a whole 'nother mess) so yes, rip off.2012-06-20 08:24:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I can tell this game is not popular, but after one vote, it appears Scary Houses and Silly Things is a rip-off of The Haunted House Journey. Even if you are creative and want to return your favorite plotline from the past and convert it to your style, you still shouldn't do it.

Please note there is no such company called Brain Food, and the book mentioned in this upcoming situation isn't even a real book. This is all fictional.

Situation 2: A Skateboarding Escapade

Background:

Brain Food, an educational game-making company, released their first game in stores five years ago. It's a computer game where people can go to school by playing on their computer. The player picks what grade level he/she is in, and can learn more from the game. It was very popular until two years after the release. Five years after the release, a writer named Osman published his first book called A Skateboarding Escapade. It was about a skateboarder who joins a skateboarding contest, and it was written as a children's book. However, there was already a book called A Skateboard Escapade, which was exclusive in one part of the virtual books section from the first game made by Brain Food. It was originally written by a worker from Brain Food, and it was for the virtual books section in the fourth grade part of their first game.

The Lawsuit:

The company Brain Food sued Osman for stealing the work from one of the virtual books and putting it into his own words. Osman admitted playing every part from the first game made by Brain Food. He even read A Skateboarding Escapade. However, he extended the story's length to avoid plagiarism, which still created a rip-off. The title is the same, the plot is the same, and even some of the lines were stolen from the virtual book. They both made an argument about the book.

Brain Food company's argument:

Osman read A Skateboarding Escapade. He even meant to write a book based on that. The characters are the same, the plot is the same, and it even had the same title and some of the same words. He may think extending the story will help give him credit, but he still loses. The learning game company written the book before. They didn't write it for the public, but they did write it for the game. He did a good job writing an actual book rather than a virtual book, but it doesn't mean he can take one of the virtual books and turn it into an actual book.

Osman's argument:

Some books used as virtual books are common everywhere, but the original story of A Skateboarding Escapade was a minor part of a game that is no longer popular. The game is no longer in stores, and people aren't crazy about it anymore. They're arguing about a tiny part of the game. It's like two rich peope fighting over a piece of gum. I written the book because nobody actually written the book before. Virtual books don't count. Osman was given the credit to the book while Brain Food was given the credit to their game.

The Question: Is Osman's book a rip-off of Brain Food's virtual book?

[A] - It is a rip-off! Books made exclusively for games count as actual works too.

[B] - It is not a rip-off. Brain Food's game isn't popular, and nobody really heard about A Skateboarding Escapade.

[C] - The situation cannot be resolved because it's rediculous to fight over a virtual book.
2012-06-20 22:20:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


A quick question, did these things happen? If so where did you find them, If not you are awesome at creating stories! Also I vote A for obvious reasons.2012-06-20 22:26:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I actually made this up. There's no real story about this, so yeah, I am creative with stories.

As of last vote, even if nobody cares about Brain Food's first game, the book Osman written is a rip-off. Time for the third situation. Please note that there are no such games as Studio Quest I or The Mega Ghost's Revenge. This is all fictional.

Situation 3: Same music?

Background:

The first game of the Studio Quest franchise has been released a long time ago. It's about a TV studio where all of the main characters from every show on the specific channel came to life, and you have to fix the shows that were damaged. There are unlockable levels, mini-games, playable characters and their moves, two-player games, and even a bonus movie for every level. However, fifteen years later, another game has been released. It was titled The Mega Ghost's Revenge. In one level of The Mega Ghost's Revenge (which was made by an entirely different company), the background music was similar to the background music from one of the mini-games from Studio Quest I. Although some parts were different, the developers of The Mega Ghost's Revenge played Studio Quest I, and they thought one music piece was good.

The Lawsuit:

The company that made the Studio Quest franchise sued the company that made The Mega Ghost's Revenge for "stealing" one of their musics and ruining it. The producers of The Mega Ghost's Revenge actually played Studio Quest I before, including the mini-game that had the music, but they aren't trying to steal the song. They're trying to use parts of the song. They both argue over the music.

Producers' argument (Studio Quest I):

Some musics were made for one game only (or some games from the same company). The music for the acorn toss game (the mini-game that had the same music) was made for Studio Quest I only. The second company played it before, and they're trying to take some of the first company's musics. Studio Quest I is no longer popular, but the franchise still is. The first company even is working on Studio Quest V.

Producer's argument (The Mega Ghost's Revenge):

The second company actually played the game, and one of the musics does sound similar, but the second company isn't trying to steal it. It's just only a coinsidence that a level from the second game had music similar to the music in the acorn toss mini-game. Since it sounded identical (on accident), they tried to change some parts of it. Not only that, the acorn toss mini-game was considered minor to the Studio Quest franchise, so why is it a big deal to use the same music? The game is old, the mini-game was minor, and the musics don't really matter.

The Question: Are the developers trying to steal the music from a previous game?

[A] - It is a rip-off! Two games with the same music isn't a good idea, as the producers of the first game were the original composers.

[B] - It is not a rip-off. Two games with the same music isn't a bad idea, especially since they aren't trying to steal the music.

[C] - The situation cannot be resolved because it's rediculous to fight over something minor.
2012-06-21 01:56:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


I think the main issue with this game is that it requires a tonne of reading2012-06-25 21:04:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


I think the main issue with this game is that it requires a tonne of reading

You're right. I guess I have to cancel this game and make it into a DVD game, so people can play "Is it a Rip-off?" without even going here.
2012-06-26 19:40:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


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