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What would happen if Pinocchio said "My nose will now grow"?
If someone says "I always lie", are they lying or telling the truth?
Nothing is better than infinite slices of pizza, but one slice of pizza is better than nothing. Which is better?
If the temperature on SATURDAY is 0 degrees, and the forecast for SUNDAY is three times as hot, what's the temperature for SUNDAY?
"Nobody goes to that restaurant, it's too crowded all the time."
If 1*0=0 and 2*0=0(my bad, Rock), does that mean 1=0?
How can you be "doing nothing" if existing is doing something?
What if you went into the past and accidentally killed your mom? What would happen?
If you tell someone to keep a secret secret, is the secret still a secret if someone knows but is told to keep it secret?
How can you tell water has no taste if you have to taste something to tell?
Little Jimmy says that a car going 100 miles per hour is fast. This is an opinion, but common sense and the definition of "fast" would say that 100 miles per hour is indeed fast, making it a fact. So then what is it that Jimmy said?
L;IJFAIDOAGJ it's all so confusing! Why do people come up with this stuff? HOW do people come up with this stuff?
2012-05-29 19:34:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


What would happen if Pinocchio said "My nose will now grow"?

It would grow. Which would make this a true statement. However the legend of Pinocchio is not that tos ay that it would go back to normal as soon as a lie becomes a truth, so it would stay long.

If someone says "I always lie", are they lying or telling the truth?

Lying, of course. Such a feat is impossible.

Nothing is better than infinite slices of pizza, but one slice of pizza is better than nothing. Which is better?

Nothing > Infinite Pizzas
1 Pizza > Nothing

therefore

1 Pizza > Nothing > Infinite Pizzas.

Which makes sense, as infinite pizzas would be a terror on the economy and those poor cows.

If the temperature on Sunday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Saturday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?

0 * 3 = 0

Therefore, 0 degrees

"Nobody goes to that restaurant, it's too crowded all the time."

It's crowded with people who stay there; aka, no one goes there, they merely live there.

If 1/0=0 and 2/0=0, does that mean 1=0?

YOU CANNOT DIVIDE BY ZERO!

How can you be "doing nothing" if existing is doing something?

By using the phrase doing to refer to sexual intercourse. I.e., you are "doing" nothing at that moment.

What if you went into the past and accidentally killed your mom? What would happen?

Your mom would be dead.

If you tell someone to keep a secret secret, is the secret still a secret if someone knows but is told to keep it secret?

A secret must be known by someone in order to exist. Therefore, two people knowing a secret makes it still a secret.

How can you tell water has no taste if you have to taste something to tell?

Water DOES have a taste. It is delicious. Do you not taste the sweet nectar of life?

Boom. Paradox Buster.
2012-05-29 19:41:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


RockSauron is a paradox.2012-05-29 19:51:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


What would happen if Pinocchio said "My nose will now grow"?

No time limit applied, comes under truth.


Nothing is better than infinite slices of pizza, but one slice of pizza is better than nothing. Which is better?

Different nothings.


If the temperature on Sunday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Saturday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?

Theres more than one measurement system for temperature 0 degrees in one will be something else in another


If 1/0=0 and 2/0=0, does that mean 1=0?

Dividing by 0 is not a legitimate operation.


How can you be "doing nothing" if existing is doing something?

Doing nothing is taken to mean nothing of significance


What if you went into the past and accidentally killed your mom? What would happen?

Arrested for murder.


If you tell someone to keep a secret secret, is the secret still a secret if someone knows but is told to keep it secret?

Still far from being common knowlage.


How can you tell water has no taste if you have to taste something to tell?

I don't think people go through life never drinking water.
2012-05-29 20:03:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


RockSauron is a paradox.

Oh? Is it because something that seeks oblivion exists? That must be a paradox!

Except it isn't. It is merely hypocrisy on my part.
2012-05-29 20:06:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Oh? Is it because something that seeks oblivion exists? That must be a paradox!

Except it isn't. It is merely hypocrisy on my part.
Maybe "sauron" just happens to mean "the previous word is not 'rock'".
2012-05-29 20:08:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


Maybe "sauron" just happens to mean "the previous word is not 'rock'".

Except it doesn't.

You can not make a paradox by twisting words to mean what they do not mean.
2012-05-29 20:09:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


If the temperature on Sunday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Saturday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?


If the temperature on Saturday is -6 degrees celsius, and Sunday is 3 times as hot..... how hot (in degrees celsius) would it be on Sunday? Hmmmmmm.
2012-05-29 20:21:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


If the temperature on Saturday is -6 degrees celsius, and Sunday is 3 times as hot..... how hot (in degrees celsius) would it be on Sunday? Hmmmmmm.

17.5 celsius
2012-05-29 20:28:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


If you can solve a paradox, does that make it a paradox at all? Of course, assuming one didn't consider every single other situation that could occur in a paradox to come up with an answer.
A statement or proposition that, despite sound (or apparently sound) reasoning from acceptable premises, leads to a conclusion that seems senseless, logically unacceptable, or self-contradictory.
Because wouldn't failing to answer the question directly or exactly as was asked answering the question incorrectly?
2012-05-29 20:37:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


The next statement is false.The previous statement is true.2012-05-29 23:17:00

Author:
Speedynutty68
Posts: 1614


The next statement is false.The previous statement is true.

You took mine -_-

How about:

The fourth statement is true. The previous statement is false. The following statement is true. The first statement is false.

0_o
2012-05-29 23:40:00

Author:
Night Angel
Posts: 1214


You took mine -_-

How about:

The previous statement is false. The following statement is true.

0_o

So "How bout" is false?

And "0_o" is true?

That's not really a paradox, boy.

that's just horrible writing skills.
2012-05-29 23:41:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Again, this reminds me of the Labyrinth where there are two doors, one leadds to the center of the labyrinth and the other to the dungeons.
To find out which is which, you can ask questions, but one always lies and the other tells the truth.
In the end it doesn't matter which is which because they can change their destinations at will even if you guess correctly.
There's a lesson in there somewhere.
2012-05-29 23:56:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


Again, this reminds me of the Labyrinth where there are two doors, one leadds to the center of the labyrinth and the other to the dungeons.
To find out which is which, you can ask questions, but one always lies and the other tells the truth.
In the end it doesn't matter which is which because they can change their destinations at will even if you guess correctly.
There's a lesson in there somewhere.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/labyrinth_puzzle.png

Little Jimmy says that a car going 100 miles per hour is fast. This is an opinion, but common sense and the definition of "fast" would say that 100 miles per hour is indeed fast, making it a fact. So then what is it that Jimmy said?

Just because it's a common opinion doesn't make it fact.
2012-05-30 00:27:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Everything is a paradox (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=55533-The-Paradox-Thread).

When you think about it.
2012-05-30 00:40:00

Author:
comishguy67
Posts: 849


Just because it's a common opinion doesn't make it fact.
So can we say that about other "common opinions" then? I've had a conversation about this with a friend once. Can we disprove things with this? Like if someone says it's cold out, and it's fourty degrees and breezy. Another person thinks it's warm. How do we know what or who to believe if it's based on opinion? The hot/cold one isn't really a great example, but it's nearly the same as speed. So if something going 100 mph going fast is common opinion, does that mean we can disprove it? That it's NOT going fast? Or is common opinion different? It's just one of those things that confuse me. And if it's not a fact, than what is it other than common opinion? Is it just one of those inbetween little boogers that can only be described as one certain thing?
2012-05-30 17:28:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


So can we say that about other "common opinions" then? I've had a conversation about this with a friend once. Can we disprove things with this? Like if someone says it's cold out, and it's fourty degrees and breezy. Another person thinks it's warm. How do we know what or who to believe if it's based on opinion? The hot/cold one isn't really a great example, but it's nearly the same as speed. So if something going 100 mph going fast is common opinion, does that mean we can disprove it? That it's NOT going fast? Or is common opinion different? It's just one of those things that confuse me. And if it's not a fact, than what is it other than common opinion? Is it just one of those inbetween little boogers that can only be described as one certain thing?

Something we can demonstrate repeatedly is fact, Personally i think 100mph is a fairly slow speed when compared to say the Speed of Light.

You can't say "The sky is blue" because it's an ambiguous answer that assumes everyone sees the same colors
2012-05-30 18:13:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


(1) If Pinocchio said that his nose will now grow, it would grow because he lied, but then it would be true, so it'll shrink again. It'll go back and forth, back and forth until he says another lie or another truth.

(2) If you answer <lying> then you're saying that he never lies, which is a lie itself. If you answer <telling the truth> you're saying that he never lies, which is also a lie itself.

(3) Infinite slices of pizza will eventually cause you to die because your body will start to reject all the pizza you consume. One slice will kill you slowly due to starvation. I'd go with starvation (I'm assuming pizza is the only thing you have to eat).

(4) 0 because 0x3=0

(5) Maybe nobody goes there because it's too crowded with GHOSTS. IT'S HAUNTED!!!!

(6) Umm... I'm going to skip this one.

(7) Then change your profile so it looks as if you don't exist anymore. If you make other people think that you don't exist, then they'll think that you can't be doing anything because you would have no fleshy body to do something.

(8) If you went back to the past and killed your mom, you (and sibling if you have any) would disappear along with your mom.

(9) Wouldn't EVERYTHING be a secret? There's ALWAYS something that would be best if a certain somebody doesn't know right?

(10) Water has a taste! It tastes like water.

(11) Skipping this one too.

My thoughts on the paradoxes.
2012-06-02 03:56:00

Author:
FEAR
Posts: 337


I can debunk that water one pretty quickly. Have you ever been to someone else's house, asked for water, drank some, and then thought.....wth? That is water that tastes different than the water that you usually drink. Yeah that's water for ya. It most definetly has a taste. It tastes like nothing. People always give me wierd looks when I say that I love the taste of water. 2012-06-04 05:01:00

Author:
Amigps
Posts: 564


It most definetly has a taste. It tastes like nothing.

Water does not taste like nothing. It tastes like water. Nobody can say something tastes like nothing because they haven't tasted it. It's impossible to taste nothing because you're always tasting something.
2012-06-04 08:38:00

Author:
Speedynutty68
Posts: 1614


Ok ok I admit it doesn't taste like nothing EXACTLY, but it nearly does. At least most of the time
There is some really nasty water out there in the world >.>
(Have you ever tried Arrowhead? I hate that water! Now THAT tastes like nothing. I think swallowing air would taste better.....at least in my opinion.)
2012-06-04 14:17:00

Author:
Amigps
Posts: 564


If 1*0=0 and 2*0=0(my bad, Rock), does that mean 1=0?

Just realized you changed this. And the answer is no, i doesn't.

Math time!

1 * 0 = 0

divide 1 by both sides

0 = 0

2 * 0 = 0

divide 2 by both sides

0 = 0

1* 0 = 0

Divide 0 by- Oh, wait, you can't divide by 0.

Hence, your math is still wrong. This is not a paradox.
2012-06-04 18:56:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Water does not taste like nothing. It tastes like water. Nobody can say something tastes like nothing because they haven't tasted it. It's impossible to taste nothing because you're always tasting something.
I can debunk that water one pretty quickly. Have you ever been to someone else's house, asked for water, drank some, and then thought.....wth? That is water that tastes different than the water that you usually drink. Yeah that's water for ya. It most definetly has a taste. It tastes like nothing. People always give me wierd looks when I say that I love the taste of water.

Chemistry time!

Water, the one you probably drink, has lots of ions in it, like Ca2+, Mg2+, and Na+. Your taste buds are accustomed to the minerals that your water has. So, if you try water from different sources, they might have different tastes because of difference in minerals. Also, about distilled water:

Taste is the number one reason consumers buy bottled water. Many consumers are led to believe that you need minerals in water to give it its taste. In actuality, it is oxygen that gives water its taste.
2012-06-05 01:07:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


What if you went into the past and accidentally killed your mom? What would happen?

Not only would your mother cease to exist, but also yourself, for killing off your mother would essentially eliminate the chance of you being born. And it'd completely screw over the space-time-continuum and thus cause an alternate reality. Don't do it.

If you tell someone to keep a secret secret, is the secret still a secret if someone knows but is told to keep it secret?

A secret is a personal matter that is sensitive to your self-being. However, just because it's a secret does not mean that you cannot share it. If you look it up in the dictionary, there is no specification that says that a secret cannot be shared.

How can you tell water has no taste if you have to taste something to tell?

Water will always have a taste, for all items edible have a specific taste corresponding to the molecular make-up and ph content present within the product. For example, if you were to "taste" water filtered, the taste is different than that from the tap. The misconception of water having no taste comes from people not knowing the science and believing popular opinion.

Little Jimmy says that a car going 100 miles per hour is fast. This is an opinion, but common sense and the definition of "fast" would say that 100 miles per hour is indeed fast, making it a fact. So then what is it that Jimmy said?

It is an opinion. Common sense differentiates from each person (some even lacking such senses), so that factor is an uncontrollable variable that cannot be monitored and thus is incoherent to the situation. What you may think is fast, I may think its slow. I actually think that, compared to other forms of transportation and recreation (airplanes, supercars, roller coasters), 100 m.p.h. is quite slow. Also, a fact/theory is a result that has been replicated several times over in various tests and experiments. So unless there are several surveys that prove that the general consensus accepts the fact that 100 m.p.h. is fast, it is still an opinion.

L;IJFAIDOAGJ it's all so confusing! Why do people come up with this stuff? HOW do people come up with this stuff?

As long as there has been riddles and figurative language, people have always found ways to make situations that may otherwise be impossible to comprehend. If they've managed to confuse you or make you paranoid, they've done their job. A paradox has been and always will be a hypothetical situation worded in a sophisticated manner. If you apply science, then it becomes much easier to decipher and, ultimately, answer.

Man, you've gotta love the scientific method.
2012-06-05 04:11:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


(8) If you went back to the past and killed your mom, you (and sibling if you have any) would disappear along with your mom.
My thoughts on the paradoxes.

While your Back To The Future theory is popular and nostalgic...

Most physicists would disagree with you. First of all, they would look at each other with a knowing smile, then tell you that time is a one way street. After which they'd tell you that in the unlikely event you could open a portal to the past, the feedback radiation loop would destroy the portal. Then they'd tell you even if your unobtanium powered time machine could defeat this roadblock, your accidental matricide would possibly put you on a divergent dimensional path, because you could be in a parallel alternate universe.

or maybe I've been watching too much Big Bang Theory...

(But seriously, physics can be some pretty trippy stuff. like theoretical ten and 11 dimensional space, 6-7 of which we can't detect, but work out mathematically on paper when calculating modified string theory.)
2012-06-05 10:13:00

Author:
DreadRandal
Posts: 434


I FIGURED out what Jimmy's statement truly was.
A factual opinion. Yes, really.
You may clap now.
2012-06-05 16:23:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


I FIGURED out what Jimmy's statement truly was.
A factual opinion. Yes, really.
You may clap now.

No, that's not it.

It's a relative fact.

To us on our mortal plane, it is a fact that 100 mph is fast. However, on a galactic scale, such a speed is slow. Thus, it is a fact relative to his own standing in the universe.
2012-06-05 16:40:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


No, that's not it.

It's a relative fact.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/okay-guy-meme.jpg
Balls.
Well, I'm out of ideas. Most of this stuff depends on views and perspective anyway.
2012-06-05 16:53:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


time is a one way street.

We have one way streets. People frequently go the wrong way on them.
2012-06-05 17:16:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


In all my years of working with Pinocchio, I can safely tell you that that if he were to say "my nose will now grow", his head would promptly burst into flames.2012-06-05 17:35:00

Author:
Ironface
Posts: 432


I think the title should be "Teasers" I'll add a few l8er2012-06-05 17:37:00

Author:
Frenzie
Posts: 308


What would happen if someone played Civ 2 for ten years?

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/uxpil/ive_been_playing_the_same_game_of_civilization_ii/
2012-06-12 16:47:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


Could an omnipotent god create an object so heavy that even he wouldn't be able to lift it?2012-06-21 13:14:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Could an omnipotent god create an object so heavy that even he wouldn't be able to lift it?

Absolutely.
2012-06-21 15:14:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Absolutely.

But if he can't lift it, he's not omnipotent.
2012-06-21 16:05:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


You can't go back into the past and change something (if we are assuming time is a single path)
as by changing it would cease the need for it to be changed - therefore going into the past stops you from going into the past, causing you to go into the past. Don't do it.
Another eternal loop is if you kill your parent, as they would be dead and so you would be dead therefore they wouldn't have been dead making you still live to kill them... Don't do it.
2012-06-21 16:54:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Another eternal loop is if you kill your parent, as they would be dead and so you would be dead therefore they wouldn't have been dead making you still live to kill them... Don't do it.

You just need to get the timing right.
2012-06-21 17:06:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


If the temperature on Saturday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Sunday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?

I can actually answer this one properly. It is much easier to measure temperature in kelvin, the divisions between each kelvin is the same as the divisions between each degree celsius (so if you add 1K, it's the same as adding 1?C). The difference is that 0K means no heat energy, you cannot have negative values of kelvin. 0K is -273?C. So:

Saturday:
temp=0?C=273k

Sunday:
temp=(273x3)k=819k=546?C

So basically everyone will burn to death on Sunday.
2012-06-21 17:49:00

Author:
PGdafrog
Posts: 277


If the temperature on Saturday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Sunday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?

Saturday:
temp=0?C=273k

Sunday:
temp=(273x3)k=819k=546?C

So basically everyone will burn to death on Sunday.

You read it wrong:


If the temperature on Saturday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Sunday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?

The answer is 0?.

I r smrt.
2012-06-21 22:15:00

Author:
alex-10798
Posts: 23


You read it wrong:



The answer is 0?.

I r smrt.
I DIDN'T DO IT.
That wasn't my typo.
Yo.
Just putting that out there. Cause I know some people find so much joy in correcting.
2012-06-21 22:32:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


One of my favorites is the Barber's Paradox.

If the barber shaves everyone in town who doesn't shave himself, then who shaves the barber?

Though my favorite paradox ever is the Dichotomy Paradox.
It basically requires one to complete an infinite number of tasks (impossible) but then you totally do it.

Take two points in space:
A-----------B
Directly in the middle is point C
A-----C-----B
Between A and C is point D
A--D--C-----B
Between A and D is point E
" "E is point F, G....AA, BB, CC... AAA, BBB, CCC...
Ad infinitum.
So, then we can reasonably assume that before we go from A to B, we have to first reach points Ax10^(BIG NUMBER) which are infinite in number. That's an infinite number of distances in every step we take.

The next time you walk, remember you are paradoxing the jimmies right the pus out of the world.
If you want to learn more about paradices, talk to your local barber!
2012-06-22 13:57:00

Author:
Valgee
Posts: 105


Give me a truthful yes or no answer to the following question... will the next word you say be "no"?2012-06-22 14:29:00

Author:
Ironface
Posts: 432


Give me a truthful yes or no answer to the following question... will the next word you say be "no"?

It is a distinct possibility.
2012-06-22 16:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


You read it wrong:



The answer is 0?.

I r smrt.


I DIDN'T DO IT.
That wasn't my typo.
Yo.
Just putting that out there. Cause I know some people find so much joy in correcting.

Yeah that wasn't your typo, Sackpapoi, but I made my typo trying to fix your typo. You said:
If the temperature on Sunday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Saturday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?
Which would mean you were asking us to give the weather for a day that had already passed, pretty easy.

So I tried to amend the typo but forgot to switch the final Saturday for a Sunday, making the solution just as easy, as alex pointed out.

Update the original post so that it says:
If the temperature on Saturday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Sunday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Sunday?
And then we'll all be happy.
2012-06-22 19:22:00

Author:
PGdafrog
Posts: 277


Yeah that wasn't your typo, Sackpapoi, but I made my typo trying to fix your typo. You said:
If the temperature on Sunday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Saturday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Saturday?
Which would mean you were asking us to give the weather for a day that had already passed, pretty easy.

So I tried to amend the typo but forgot to switch the final Saturday for a Sunday, making the solution just as easy, as alex pointed out.

Update the original post so that it says:
If the temperature on Saturday is 0 degrees, and the forecast for Sunday is three times as hot, what's the temperature for Sunday?
And then we'll all be happy.
It could be NEXT Saturday.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvb36xewnT1qfau2c.png
But okay, I'll fix it. :T
2012-06-22 19:32:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


One of my favorites is the Barber's Paradox.

If the barber shaves everyone in town who doesn't shave himself, then who shaves the barber?

He does. You said he shaves people who don't shave themselves.
That doesn't mean that he doesn't ALSO shave people who DO shave themselves.
2012-06-22 19:34:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


He does. You said he shaves people who don't shave themselves.
That doesn't mean that he doesn't ALSO shave people who DO shave themselves.

Why would he re-shave people that shave themselves? That would be silly.
2012-06-22 22:23:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Why would he re-shave people that shave themselves? That would be silly.

I didn't say that. Well, not what I meant.

The "paradox" says that he shaves people who don't shave themselves. It says NOTHING about him shaving people who DO shave themselves.

Thus, he could shave himself and that statement would still be accurate. Thus, it is not a paradox.
2012-06-22 23:01:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


I would have to disagree.
By saying the barber shaves people who don't shave themselves, implies that this is the only shaving the barber does (otherwise why specify a niche group)

For example, if I said I eat chicken that doesn't go mouldy - thereby implies I don't eat chicken that does go mouldy, otherwise why would I specify?

:kz:
2012-06-22 23:09:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I would have to disagree.
By saying the barber shaves people who don't shave themselves, implies that this is the only shaving the barber does (otherwise why specify a niche group)

For example, if I said I eat chicken that doesn't go mouldy - thereby implies I don't eat chicken that does go mouldy, otherwise why would I specify?

:kz:

But it leaves open the possibility, so it is not a paradox. That statement can be true, mathematically speaking, so it isn't a paradox.

Your example implies that it is a stupid thing to say, and I agree. But that's not what we're discussing, at all. We're discussing paradoxes.
2012-06-22 23:21:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


One of my favorites is the Barber's Paradox.

If the barber shaves everyone in town who doesn't shave himself, then who shaves the barber?

Shaving eveveryone that doesn't shave themselves does not exclude those that do shave themselves having the barber shave them as a treat or the barber shaving himself.

The wording provided does not say that his only customers are those that do not shave them selves. Impling just isn't good enough.
2012-06-22 23:22:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


If the barber shaves everyone in town who doesn't shave himself.The barber doesn't shave people who do shave themselves either, as this would be a rediculous practice of little income. Who shaves the barber?2012-06-22 23:24:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Alopecia areata barbae http://www.alopeciaworld.com/forum/topics/alopecia-areata-barbae-beard2012-06-22 23:26:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Maybe the barber likes to have a ridiculous amount of facial hair so he doesn't shave at all?2012-06-23 22:31:00

Author:
PGdafrog
Posts: 277


Maybe the barber likes to have a ridiculous amount of facial hair so he doesn't shave at all?

But then he doesn't shave himself, and he shaves everyone who doesn't shave themselves.
2012-06-23 23:29:00

Author:
RockSauron
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Omnis cellula e cellula2012-06-23 23:42:00

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Kern
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But it leaves open the possibility, so it is not a paradox.

Good to know that something that has been commonly accepted as a paradox is no longer a paradox because you said so.
Years of thinking have been wasted before you came along.

But! Okey. That may not even be the exact wording of the actual paradox but I did it from memory and it was good enough. In fact, all I pretty much did was forgot an "only."
2012-07-02 00:17:00

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Valgee
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Good to know that something that has been commonly accepted as a paradox is no longer a paradox because you said so.
Years of thinking have been wasted before you came along.

But! Okey. That may not even be the exact wording of the actual paradox but I did it from memory and it was good enough. In fact, all I pretty much did was forgot an "only."

But the way it is worded here makes the answer simple to understand. AS well as one understands math and the p implies r thingamajig.

This is not a paradox, it is a logical fallacy.

But if it included the "only", THEN it would have been the paradox. However, it did not, so it wasn't.

And honestly? You think I said it wasn't a paradox because I said so? I gave reasons that it wasn't so. You said that it was a paradox because other people said so.

So who is it that says something only because someone says so, again?
2012-07-02 00:21:00

Author:
RockSauron
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But the way it is worded here makes the answer simple to understand. AS well as one understands math and the p implies r thingamajig.

This is not a paradox, it is a logical fallacy.

But if it included the "only", THEN it would have been the paradox. However, it did not, so it wasn't.

And honestly? You think I said it wasn't a paradox because I said so? I gave reasons that it wasn't so. You said that it was a paradox because other people said so.

So who is it that says something only because someone says so, again?

The "only" was pretty much implied. If you can't see that, then I'm sorry.
It seems like all this "disproving" paradoxes in this thread seem to be the work of purposefully omitting obvious thinking. I mean, try to think beyond what's written there, eh? Obviously it was written to be a paradox as evidenced by being in a thread about Paradoxes. So, some typos have ostensibly "ruined" their status as a paradox. Oh well, dude, the whole point of a paradox is that fact we can think it and understand it and have fun thinking of the impossible.

I gave reasons why it WAS a paradox, in that, I only forgot the word only. Which, again, was pretty OBVIOUSLY implied. It has a name. The Barber's Paradox. I said that. Did you not think to Google that when you suddenly stumbled upon it "not being" a paradox?
All I know is that The Barber's Paradox is definitely a paradox. Definitely.

ALTHOUGH:

If 1*0=0 and 2*0=0(my bad, Rock), does that mean 1=0

I would like to point out that this is a severely distilled version of another thing that is not a paradox.
It's actually a watered-down instance of an awesome prank played on entering Calculus students. The original is a lot trickier but fallacious for the same reasons that Rocksauron said. It's just harder to catch.
2012-07-02 08:02:00

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Valgee
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My....Head.....Hurts..... Thanks Guys 2012-07-09 03:19:00

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My....Head.....Hurts..... Thanks Guys
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