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http://www.gamesaktuell.de/PlayStation-4-Misc-Hardware-220102/News/Playstation-4-Angeblich-Datenblatt-mit-PS4-Release-aufgetaucht-sind-das-die-Spezifikationen-der-Next-Gen-Konsole-886090/galerie/1672484/?fullsize Seems a beast http://www.gamesaktuell.de/PlayStation-4-Misc-Hardware-220102/News/Playstation-4-Angeblich-Datenblatt-mit-PS4-Release-aufgetaucht-sind-das-die-Spezifikationen-der-Next-Gen-Konsole-886090/galerie/1672484/?fullsize

2012-05-25 15:46:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Is it mentioned where they got the developer sheet?

2012-05-25 15:52:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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Probably fake.

2012-05-25 15:58:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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No, but I examined the sheet with what I know. The layout is very very very Sony. From the look of the questionaires I got from Sony and the Beta Invites. Every TM and Copyright mark is placed, logos are real, no definition of devices is wrong and the actual text is pretty much Sony's way to promote stuff. This is data about the graphic card http://semiaccurate.com/2012/03/05/nvidia-will-launch-gk104keplergtx680-in-a-week/ if you check the dates of the documents it's seems pretty likely

2012-05-25 16:00:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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No, but I examined the sheet with what I know. The layout is very very very Sony. From the look of the questionaires I got from Sony and the Beta Invites. Every TM and Copyright mark is placed, logos are real, no definition of devices is wrong and the actual text is pretty much Sony's way to promote stuff. This is data about the graphic card http://semiaccurate.com/2012/03/05/nvidia-will-launch-gk104keplergtx680-in-a-week/ if you check the dates of the documents it's seems pretty likely Yeah but by leaking it surely you're giving the people they are trying to beat ammo?

2012-05-25 16:17:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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So its a good quality fake. We go through this with every new piece of hardware, the games media will post all sorts of rumours in the run up to a new console being revealed.

2012-05-25 16:18:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Although if that is the actual specs i'm quite happy.

2012-05-25 16:20:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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Either I'm missing a decimal point or they're saying it'll have a combined total of 20gbs of RAM.

2012-05-25 16:22:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Thing that bothers me is for the hdd: "Varies according to the model" It just sounds unprofessionally worded... surely something like "250GB Minimum, 350GB maximum, (Upgradable)" would be better and yeah... 20GB of RAM seems a bit far fetched Finally... why bother using the code name for the product if the real name is at the top anyway? I'm gonna go with fake on this one.

2012-05-25 16:31:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414

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full backwards compatibility it says?? :0 ...well that would be a big surprise. *mew

2012-05-25 16:37:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Today the product would cost 100$ for the whole RAM 700$ GPU 45 $ BluRay 250 $ Cell Processor That would be price at the shops though...let's say that assembling in shop a PS4 today would cost 1200$ We know how prices drops fast in a year and a half and that manufacturers costs are way cheaper. I bet it would cost to Sony max 650-700$ But...I think that Sony will start to use Microsoft's new smart plan http://content.microsoftstore.com/store/xblive2yr-offer/ I also found this http://www.technology.scee.net/

2012-05-25 16:44:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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When it says "x2" does that mean there are two GPUs in SLI?

2012-05-25 16:47:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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Today the product would cost 100$ for the whole RAM Where the hell do you buy 20 GBs of RAM for only $100?

2012-05-25 19:38:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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Where the hell do you buy 20 GBs of RAM for only $100? eBay. For all your cheap-because-its-probably-broken needs.

2012-05-26 02:23:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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Where the hell do you buy 20 GBs of RAM for only $100? If I tell you the name of the Italian store, would it change aything? yeah Ayneh, 2x means 2 graphic cards. many say it's fake, or complete bull. For a console released end of 2013-beginning of 2014 it COULD be and it would be reasonable to have all that horsepower.

2012-05-26 11:36:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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If I tell you the name of the Italian store, would it change aything? yeah Ayneh, 2x means 2 graphic cards. many say it's fake, or complete bull. For a console released end of 2013-beginning of 2014 it COULD be and it would be reasonable to have all that horsepower. That doesn't mean it is good RAM...

2012-05-26 14:55:00 Author: Unknown User

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I call fake. For that price, people would rather buy a good PC and wait until the console has a good price and a worthwhile catalogue of games. If Sony has learned anything, they won't launch a console that's as expensive and complex to program for as the PS3 was during its launch. The system's complexity scares off devs and the price scares off clients. It's a terrible combination for a console and the PS3's first years prove it. Bad sales and bad game ports.

2012-05-26 15:45:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Absolute bull. 10gb RAM? SLI GPU's? Sony are looking to make money, not put themselves in even more debt. And anyone with basic knowledge of graphics cards knows single GPU set-up's are the best way to go, unless you run 3 monitors or massive res screens. And that's not considering that a console would never cope with the heat of 2 GPU's. Ofcourse even if it is true, the GPU listed won't be the one that someone linked to. That's a gtx 680, and costs a fortune. They will be a much lower spec Kepler card, with a far more affordable price. The specs are complete overkill, and out of the question for next gen console specs. The 'leaked' Xbox 3 specs are far more close to the mark, though a little underpowered for what Sony would go with.

2012-05-26 15:46:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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I call fake. For that price, people would rather buy a good PC and wait until the console has a good price and a worthwhile catalogue of games. If Sony has learned anything, they won't launch a console that's as expensive and complex to program for as the PS3 was during its launch. The system's complexity scares off devs and the price scares off clients. It's a terrible combination for a console and the PS3's first years prove it. Bad sales and bad game ports. Absolute bull. 10gb RAM? SLI GPU's? Sony are looking to make money, not put themselves in even more debt. And anyone with basic knowledge of graphics cards knows single GPU set-up's are the best way to go, unless you run 3 monitors or massive res screens. And that's not considering that a console would never cope with the heat of 2 GPU's. Ofcourse even if it is true, the GPU listed won't be the one that someone linked to. That's a gtx 680, and costs a fortune. They will be a much lower spec Kepler card, with a far more affordable price. The specs are complete overkill, and out of the question for next gen console specs. The 'leaked' Xbox 3 specs are far more close to the mark, though a little underpowered for what Sony would go with. Both of these. That's just way TOO much "Horsepower" for a console. And did you say $600 dollars? That's insane. I'm not going to fork over over half a grand for a console, Sony should not be repeating what happened on launch of the PS3. If this was true, Sony must think that stronger consoles = more money.

2012-05-26 20:34:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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I work as a apprentice at a pc shop, we just sold a laptop with 16 gbs of ram, a gtx 670 with 3 gbs of gfx ram and it was as thin as a mac. Technology is advancing fast. I believe it.

2012-06-03 16:54:00 Author: Unknown User

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Such a laptop would cost a ton of money. Like I said before, I have no doubt that the spec is possible, but it certainly wouldn't be the spec for a home console that they want to sell in the millions. It really is utter bull. The fact that it has 10GB of RAM (which a console would never need), and 5GB VRAM (again, way overkill) gives it away that it's nonsense. You have much to learn apprentice

2012-06-03 17:48:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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I know I forked over $600 for a launch PS3, a to be honest, that wasn't that bad for what it packed at the time. This would easily cost $1200 - $1500+. No person would pay that much for a console. I don't see in what world these would be true, and even if they were it is still overkill. (There is no point in over 1GB of GDDR unless you are using multiple 2560 x 1600 monitors.)

2012-06-04 00:04:00 Author: tanrockstan34 Posts: 1076

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firstly, sony are going for future proof, so going over the top with power at the start will ensure a long lifespan. secondly, people guessing at prices need to realize that once the hardware manufacturers get a massive contract to produce millions of their product they can afford to greatly reduce the price per unit. usually prices are high to begin with to make sure they cover R&D expenses, but if they are guaranteed to move a massive number of units there is no need for the high price. not saying i believe this, just that noone has made a decent case against it

2012-06-08 08:53:00 Author: evret Posts: 612

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Another day another set of rumoured specs http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2012/06/08/rumour-ps4-specs-leaked-apu-codenamed-liverpool/

2012-06-08 10:03:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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firstly, sony are going for future proof, so going over the top with power at the start will ensure a long lifespan. secondly, people guessing at prices need to realize that once the hardware manufacturers get a massive contract to produce millions of their product they can afford to greatly reduce the price per unit. usually prices are high to begin with to make sure they cover R&D expenses, but if they are guaranteed to move a massive number of units there is no need for the high price. not saying i believe this, just that noone has made a decent case against it No one made a decent case against it? Umm, Playstation 3.

2012-06-08 10:04:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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firstly, sony are going for future proof, so going over the top with power at the start will ensure a long lifespan. secondly, people guessing at prices need to realize that once the hardware manufacturers get a massive contract to produce millions of their product they can afford to greatly reduce the price per unit. usually prices are high to begin with to make sure they cover R&D expenses, but if they are guaranteed to move a massive number of units there is no need for the high price. not saying i believe this, just that noone has made a decent case against it You don't need a decent case against it, the specs are genuinely stupid. You don't need 10GBs of RAM on your PC when you're running tons of programs + a couple games at once, let alone just to run the OS + 1 game on the PS4. 4 - 6GBs of RAM would be about right. Futureproof without being too overkill. A basic knowledge of technology tells you the specs are bull. The specs that Rabid-Coot posted seem far more likely, even if there wasn't much there. I agree with the article that it wouldn't be a 7970 in there, a console has never [and will never] put in the top end single GPU card currently out. Far too expensive for a home console.

2012-06-08 12:03:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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You don't need a decent case against it, the specs are genuinely stupid. You don't need 10GBs of RAM on your PC when you're running tons of programs + a couple games at once, let alone just to run the OS + 1 game on the PS4. 4 - 6GBs of RAM would be about right. Futureproof without being too overkill. A basic knowledge of technology tells you the specs are bull. i dont pretend to know much about the specs, but you shouldn't either (unless your a tech guy that works for one of the best game devs in the industry). basing a ps4 on current gaming needs would ensure a short lifespan, and i'm sure they will want to allow more than just OS and a game at once. not to mention any Peripheral they may have planed for it. The specs that Rabid-Coot posted seem far more likely, even if there wasn't much there. I agree with the article that it wouldn't be a 7970 in there, a console has never [and will never] put in the top end single GPU card currently out. Far too expensive for a home console. mass produce any tech and the cost drops dramaticaly these specs probably are fake, but as I said noone should pretend to know what specs games will require for the next 10-15 years. the only ones in a position to make a valid guesstimate are the people at the forefront of the gaming industry

2012-06-08 14:13:00 Author: evret Posts: 612

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mass produce any tech and the cost drops dramaticaly Sony was losing money on their Playstation 3 for the first 2 years (If I'm not mistaken.) The cost of the console was too high, it was mass produced. Still didn't help.

2012-06-09 02:14:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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It would be cool if the ps4 is not called ps4 like when we thought the name for the vita was called psp2 when we first heard of it that was not called ngp at first. anyway i think the ps3 should stay for about 3 or 4 years before we hear about the ps4 cause one of the best things about psvita is the cross-play with ps3. which there is not alot of them considering the vita is about 4 months old...ps3 shoudn't worry about the wii u considering i felt the wii u controls stange (yes i've been in e3...last year) and graphics are something like xbox360. (which is close to ps3)

2012-06-09 03:45:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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i dont pretend to know much about the specs, but you shouldn't either (unless your a tech guy that works for one of the best game devs in the industry). basing a ps4 on current gaming needs would ensure a short lifespan, and i'm sure they will want to allow more than just OS and a game at once. not to mention any Peripheral they may have planed for it. mass produce any tech and the cost drops dramaticaly these specs probably are fake, but as I said noone should pretend to know what specs games will require for the next 10-15 years. the only ones in a position to make a valid guesstimate are the people at the forefront of the gaming industry I don't pretend to know and understand much about the specs. I do understand the specs listed. I have built my own top end PC (Proof: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18342881 ), and my GPU is the same one that's rumoured here to be in the PS4. Keeping up to date with the latest tech is a hobby of mine, and you don't need to be one of the best game dev's in the industry to understand it. Noone pretends to know what specs games will require for the next gen, but educated guesses are made. I can tell you now, and I'm willing to put my left nut on the line, those specs would never happen next gen. Like I said before, the giveaway is 10GB RAM, but more so the 10GB VRAM (with 2 GPU's, making it 5GB effective VRAM). Not even the top end graphics cards have that atm, and the only time you need more than 2GB is when you're running more than 3 monitors.

2012-06-09 15:49:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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and the only time you need more than 2GB is when you're running more than 3 monitors. so what makes you think they wont do that with the ps4? the Wii U supports 3 screens, but takes a hit to performance to do so. as i said you dont know what possible peripherals sony might add to the ps4, therefore PRETENDING to know is pointless

2012-06-10 06:06:00 Author: evret Posts: 612

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Maybe so, but my point is it's 2x 5GB graphics cards. Dual GPU's are inefficient compared to single GPU set ups, and would be a terrible design for a console cost wise. Let alone there are currently no GPU's on the market with over 4GB VRAM! Like I said before, I'm not pretending to know anything, I'm making educated guesses. Which is more than you seem to be doing. To put it in perspective, look what the PS3 puts out with only 256MB VRAM. With 8 times that amount (so @ 2GB) you would have more than enough to last you next gen and support multiple monitors or 3D comfortably. I'm not claiming to know what the next console is, I'm claiming as a fact what would be enough for next gen. (the only way I could be wrong with this is if they decide to make it some crazy future holographic console. Somehow I don't think that's next gen stuff ) In conclusion, those listed specs are still complete bull.

2012-06-10 15:25:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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im expecting ps4 to be futurisic if that's even a word. the back of the controller would have the rear touch like the one on the vita which that would be cool if they did that. (BTW i know the ps4 leaked is fake)

2012-06-11 02:01:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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This PS4 stuff is all so dumb. They just made a Vita that is cross-compatible with PS3 not PS4. They would have too make a whole new portable AGAIN! Or don't and be nooby like xbox without a portable.

2012-06-11 03:48:00 Author: unc92sax Posts: 928

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They would have too make a whole new portable AGAIN! Or a firmware update for the Vita.

2012-06-11 09:06:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Or a firmware update for the Vita. This. As if the Vita won't be compatible with PS4.

2012-06-11 13:03:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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This. As if the Vita won't be compatible with PS4. well the 3ds is having crossplay with wii u for super smash bros if my memory serves me correct. but that game would take 4 or 5 years. so if the 3ds can cross play with wii u then you should cross play with ps vita and ps4.

2012-06-11 23:06:00 Author: Sunbunny23 Posts: 995

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Bear in mind that when the ps3 was launched it lacked vita (and maybe psp but I can remember) compatibility but these were added later through firmware updates. If Sony can make a non compatible product compatible now, they will certainly not forget how to do this in the future... chances are they already factored the vita in, behind the scenes in Sony's hardware development centers, while designing the ps4... so chances that they will interact with each other are pretty high.

2012-06-11 23:11:00 Author: ForgottenEnigma Posts: 1414

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