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The Differences between the US and UK

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I live in the US, but I would like to see what's different between our nation and the United Kingdom. All I know what's different is the spelling and the dialect of the language (i.e. here in America, the word that describes red, green, and blue is spelled c-o-l-o-r while somewhere else it's spelled c-o-l-o-u-r). Is there anything else I can learn about?2012-05-14 01:41:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


You mean besides the fact they are two different countries?

Well, England seems like it is still more class-based than the US, on account for the centuries of the aristocracy. So while dialect in the US is regional based, dialect in England tends to be more based on financial standing, and there is less social mobility. At least, from what I understand.
2012-05-14 01:43:00

Author:
RockSauron
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I know what else is different: The accents.2012-05-14 01:50:00

Author:
Apple2012
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180 hours in Windows Movie Maker.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6079/thetruth.png
2012-05-14 02:07:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


You mean besides the fact they are two different countries?

Well, England seems like it is still more class-based than the US, on account for the centuries of the aristocracy. So while dialect in the US is regional based, dialect in England tends to be more based on financial standing, and there is less social mobility. At least, from what I understand.

Not true. Dialect is largely regional based in the UK too, and a persons accent has little relation to their financial standing. For instance I have what some people would call a "posh" or "middle-english" accent, yet I live on the breadline and rent my small 2 bedroom flat from a wealthy landlord who speaks with the kind of broad rural accent that is typically associated with common farming families.

The UK and the USA aren't that different at all really. America is just another British Isle.
2012-05-14 02:12:00

Author:
Ungreth
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The UK and the USA aren't that different at all really. America is just another British Isle.

Not true. You're thinking the Northeast. A lot of the US has been claimed by the French and Spanish. Besides, we were the first independent nation in the Western Hemisphere.
2012-05-14 02:25:00

Author:
Apple2012
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180 hours in Windows Movie Maker.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6079/thetruth.png

I think this is pretty much the gist of it
2012-05-14 02:29:00

Author:
Night Angel
Posts: 1214


Not true. You're thinking the Northeast. The Piney Woods was under a French/Spanish claim.

Absolute rubbish. You've been listening to French propaganda and Spanish lies. The USA was originally a British peninsula, but it was severed from the coast of Cornwall and cast adrift into the atlantic ocean in 1492 when the British got sick of the smell of corn dogs.
2012-05-14 02:34:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


Absolute rubbish. You've been listening to French propaganda and Spanish lies. The USA was originally a British peninsula, but it was severed from the coast of Cornwall and cast adrift into the atlantic ocean in 1492 when the British got sick of the smell of corn dogs.

I have a hard time thinking on what to say about that.

First, America has always been away from Britain due to continental drift.
Second, even if the English settled colonies on the east coast of America, we declared independence. They didn't kick us out. We tried to get away.
Third, the English only claimed the east.
2012-05-14 02:52:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


LIES, you didn't get sick of our corn dog odor! We got sick of you hogging all of our corn doggy goodness! You had a whole shops and perfume lines dedicated to the scent of said corny dogs. We simply didn't have the means to continue supplying your tremendous demand. So we lasso'd the moon and had it drag us away from your greedy country.2012-05-14 02:57:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


I have a hard time thinking on what to say about that.

First, America has always been away from Britain due to continental drift.
Second, even if the English settled colonies on the east coast of America, we declared independence. They didn't kick us out. We tried to get away.
Third, the English only claimed the east.

Where are you getting your history? sugar packets?

Seriously? "Continental Drift"? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And China's on the other side of the world

Seriously, try laying off the sugar packets and read a history book.

But this is all a moot point anyway. After all, we all know that British people don't exist.

I've never seen a British person. Have you? Therefore, they don't exist.

Look in the English dictionary. The English dictionary. All the words in there are American.

... Team deathmatch. /runs
2012-05-14 03:02:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Some differing word definitions:

UK - US
Chips - Fries
Crisps - Chips
Rubber - Eraser
Nappy - Diaper
Dummy - Pacifier
Spanner - Wrench
Film - Movie
Wardrobe - Closet
Trousers - Pants
Pants - Y fronts
Boot - Trunk
Loft - Attic
Football - Soccer
American Football - Football

We also have a Queen, Prime Minister and Media Molecule.
2012-05-14 03:12:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


Some differing word definitions:

UK - US
Chips - Fries
Crisps - Chips
Rubber - Eraser
Nappy - Diaper
Dummy - Pacifier
Spanner - Wrench
Film - Movie
Wardrobe - Closet
Trousers - Pants
Pants - Y fronts
Boot - Trunk
Loft - Attic
Football - Soccer
American Football - Football

That's the reason why I wouldn't visit the UK. But at least they aren't facing political corruption and economic troubles like the United States.
2012-05-14 03:21:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


That's the reason why I wouldn't visit the UK. But at least they aren't facing political corruption and economic troubles like the United States.

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

Oh! We also have the olympics this year. That's something we're supposed to be excited about.
2012-05-14 03:25:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

Oh! We also have the olympics this year. That's something we're supposed to be excited about.

I already know what is going to happen in 2012 in both US and UK.

UK: The London 2012 olympics
US: The 2012 Election (new president could be elected)

By the way, I really wouldn't visit the UK (no sarcasm intended). I'd stay in my country.
2012-05-14 03:30:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


I have a hard time thinking on what to say about that.

First, America has always been away from Britain due to continental drift.
Second, even if the English settled colonies on the east coast of America, we declared independence. They didn't kick us out. We tried to get away.
Third, the English only claimed the east.

Apple...do you suffer with autism or aspergers syndrome by any chance? I'm really not trying to be rude...it's just that I've noticed how you seem to interpret everything you read so literally and you seem unable to recognise irony, sarcasm, double-entendre and other figurative elements of humour.

Just for the record (and no, I'm not actually recording anything) I was joking with you. The very notion that America was once a British peninsula is quite obviously ridiculous, and I seriously doubt that corn dogs had even been invented in 1492.
2012-05-14 03:33:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


Apple...do you suffer with autism or aspergers syndrome by any chance? I'm really not trying to be rude...it's just that I've noticed how you seem to interpret everything you read so literally and you seem unable to recognise irony, sarcasm, double-entendre and other figurative elements of humour.

Just for the record (and no, I'm not actually recording anything) I was joking with you. The very notion that America was once a British peninsula is quite obviously ridiculous, and I seriously doubt that corn dogs had even been invented in 1492.

I just take things too seriously. That's all.
2012-05-14 03:37:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Hmm... US : UK...

George Washington the hero : George Washington the terrorist
President (hate 'em) : Prime Minister (love 'em)
thick fog in San Francisco : thick fog in London
Mexico... yep : Ireland... yep
college highly unlikely : college guaranteed
American football (rugby with pads) : British rugby (football without pads)
Adele (supposedly fat) : Susan Boyle (supposedly ugly)
everything else owned by Sony : Media Molecule (the only one that matters)
North vs South : Scotland vs England
hated by most of the world : hated by most of their neighbors (especially France)
Empire State Building : Big Ben
MythBusters : Bang Goes the Theory
Battle Bots : Robot Wars

Tbh, I think the UK sounds a lot more promising.
2012-05-14 04:47:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


Hmm... US : UK...

George Washington the hero : George Washington the terrorist
President (hate 'em) : Prime Minister (love 'em)
thick fog in San Francisco : thick fog in London
Mexico... yep : Ireland... yep
college highly unlikely : college guaranteed
American football (rugby with pads) : British rugby (football without pads)
Adele (supposedly fat) : Susan Boyle (supposedly ugly)
everything else owned by Sony : Media Molecule (the only one that matters)
North vs South : Scotland vs England
hated by most of the world : hated by most of their neighbors (especially France)
Empire State Building : Big Ben
MythBusters : Bang Goes the Theory
Battle Bots : Robot Wars

Tbh, I think the UK sounds a lot more promising.

I don't know what's really going on in England, but I do know what America has a problem with. Ever since our current president came in office, the US came from bad to worse. Not only he is bad for the country, but part of society protested against him. He is the reason why America is doing bad. If we have him, what does the UK have?
2012-05-14 05:11:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


I know what else is different: The accents.

Yeah, I kinda think that American accents sound... a bit dumb.
Is it me, or is this thread very entertaining to read?
2012-05-14 05:17:00

Author:
Kaboosh99
Posts: 359


Y'know what's a pretty interesting difference? (And I think I remember this point from a similar thread to this one long ago...)

Circumcision. It seems to be popular in the US, but not in the UK. Got any tips, US residence?

Now, let transatlantic argument, commence!
Tempting fate with this post, I'm filthy.
2012-05-14 05:34:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


Y'know what's a pretty interesting difference? (And I think I remember this point from a similar thread to this one long ago...)

Circumcision. It seems to be popular in the US, but not in the UK. Got any tips, US residence?

Now, let transatlantic argument, commence!
Tempting fate with this post, I'm filthy.

You just had to bring that up didn't you...
2012-05-14 05:37:00

Author:
Kaboosh99
Posts: 359


To me it seems that the British Accent is easier to understand for People with english as second or third language.

And a big Plus for England is "Top Gear"
2012-05-14 05:38:00

Author:
Dhana777
Posts: 122


To me it seems that the British Accent is easier to understand for People with english as second or third language.

And a big Plus for England is "Top Gear"

But the US has Top Gear too... ;_;

Ever since that Obamanation came into office, America has been going the way of the dodo. You guys might have a monarchy and all, but that sounds a lot better than this crap republic we have over here.
2012-05-14 05:51:00

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Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


You just had to bring that up didn't you...

Yup.

Dirty thoughts aside, though, it is a pretty strange cultural thing for it to be popular in one country, but not the other, don'tchathink?. I don't even think it's too much of a religious thing anymore either, more of the social norm for each country.

Also, the US school system is very different to the UK's. High School is at a very different age in each country, for example.
2012-05-14 05:56:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


I know we've already settled this with Ungreth and the assburgers, but:


I have a hard time thinking on what to say about that.

First, America has always been away from Britain due to continental drift.
Second, even if the English settled colonies on the east coast of America, we declared independence. They didn't kick us out. We tried to get away.
Third, the English only claimed the east.

Screencapped and saved. As an American, that made me chuckle.
2012-05-14 06:05:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Screencapped and saved. As an American, that made me chuckle.

I didn't say continental drift pulled the borders apart. The British isles and North America have always been two different landmasses long before history. They used to be part of one big continent, until tectonic plates shifted the land apart. Today, America and Britain are just on two different landmasses. The UK was on one part, and the US was on another.

@Outlaw-Jack: Judging by the post you made, are you conservative? Don't worry if you answer, because I'm one of those guys (conservatives) too. If I was completely independent, I can still tell that we had a bad leader. There's a lot of haters, more than Latin_Player_10 ever had.

Let's get back on topic. And what Mr_T-Shirt said reminded me of something: Drinking age, and driving age. Driving age was adjusted to 18 in MmLand (England) while driving age in the US is either 16 or 17 (depends on where you live). The drinking age, it's somewhere around 13 in parts of Europe, but in the US, it's 21.
2012-05-14 06:31:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Never been to America, but I have heard the cultural difference is starker than I originally thought.

So enlighten me.
2012-05-14 06:52:00

Author:
PygmyOwl
Posts: 1316


Quite a few differences.

Obviously there are words that are spelt differently. Americans can seem to comprehend words like "centre", so have to simplify it to "center" so that folks can read it easier.

Then there's "college" (for the Yanks) and "university" for us lot over here.

Brits have this dry, self deprecating humour which Americans never get. Americans tend to be very patriotic, whilst us Brits couldn't really give a stuff. A lot of Americans seem to think that all Brits love the Queen, and we all have either posh or cockney accents. Look at most Brit characters in American films/TV shows.... especially those characters played by American actors. I don't think I've ever seen a Yank to a decent regional English accent. That's another think - UK is not a darn country!! England is a country, Scotland is a country, Wales is a country, and Northern Ireland is a country!
There is an incredible arrogance of some Americans, they seem to think that the US is the centre of the world. I mean...... "World Series"??? (in reference to Baseball) Come on!

Religion is taken a lot more seriously in the US too. Obviously you have the close minded bigots like the Westboro Baptist Church, you don't really get that over here, but you do have political parties like the EDL. I'm not saying all Americans are like that of course, but you see a lot of religion talk coming in to main stream politics, particulary from the Republicans.... you don't really see that over here.

Anyway.... I've just realised I've listed a bunch of things that annoy me about the US, rather than focusing on the differences. I don't mean offence by any of it, I'm just going on what I see.
2012-05-14 10:08:00

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Ali_Star
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Etinogard/ngbbs48adef8148b06.jpg

I don't think you can get those in the US.
2012-05-14 10:55:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Etinogard/ngbbs48adef8148b06.jpg

I don't think you can get those in the US.

Taking the double entendre as I assume it's intended, that's frikkin' hilarious
2012-05-14 11:15:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


This thread instantly reminded me of this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw&t=1s

(If video doesn't work, cause it won't for me, I've left the link too)

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

Mr Mitchell sums up some of the finer points of the language difference. All credit goes to him for his pure genius and in-escapable logic

XD

Although come 2014... there may not be a UK anyway so... =p
2012-05-14 12:04:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


A British got sick of the smell of corn dogs.

I sure do like a good corn dog. With mustard YUM!


Brits have this dry, self deprecating humour which Americans never get.

I would say "some" never get.. I quite like it.
2012-05-14 12:36:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


lol great vid dave weird tread tho but still great vid=p2012-05-14 12:50:00

Author:
tjaldex225
Posts: 69


Is it just me or is this rapidly descending into casual racism and Obama bashing?

EDIT:: the level of ignorance Apple.. Just.. Argh. It burns.
2012-05-14 13:03:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Is it just me or is this rapidly descending into casual racism and Obama bashing?

EDIT:: the level of ignorance Apple.. Just.. Argh. It burns.

I like Obama.


The British accent. It's sexy.



Hey, America isn't the only country in trouble. The economic crisis is global, man. EVERYWHERE it's going from bad to worse. Although the US would be doing a lot better now if they weren't spending so much on wars.

Obama just had the bad luck of inheriting the mess Bush made at the same time the recession hit. I don't know what they taught you about the extend of a president's influence over his country, but he doesn't have a "make eveything right" button.

Ahhh, now. Are you going on the archetypal British accent, spoken by people such as Kate Middleton, or are you saying our accents are sexy in general? Have you ever heard a hard Mancunian (ie someone from Manchester) or hard Liverpudlian accent? Not exactly sexy if you ask me.
2012-05-14 13:25:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Snap, deleted my post by accident when I was editing it. Here's a copy-paste:

The British accent. It's sexy.


I don't know what's really going on in England, but I do know what America has a problem with. Ever since our current president came in office, the US came from bad to worse. Not only he is bad for the country, but part of society protested against him. He is the reason why America is doing bad. If we have him, what does the UK have?

Hey, America isn't the only country in trouble. The economic crisis is global, man. EVERYWHERE it's going from bad to worse. Although the US would be doing a lot better now if they hadn't been spending so much on wars.

Obama just had the bad luck of inheriting the mess Bush made at the same time the recession hit. I don't know what they taught you about the extent of a president's influence over his country, but he doesn't have a "make eveything right" button.


@Ali_Star I dunno exactly, just the British accent in general. Ever listened to a Youtube celebrity called TotalBiscuit? I'd kill to have his voice.
2012-05-14 13:28:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


English accents are sexy in general..though, I cant take you seriously when you speak no matter how tough you are because of it. An angry Englishman would be like a teddy bear trying to throw cotton candy at you as an attack; too cute to be menacing.

Irishmen on the other hand...
2012-05-14 15:03:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


English accents are sexy in general..though, I cant take you seriously when you speak no matter how tough you are because of it. An angry Englishman would be like a teddy bear trying to throw cotton candy at you as an attack; too cute to be menacing.

Irishmen on the other hand...

Maybe for a Brummie (Birmingham), Geordie (Newcastle) or perhaps someone from Bristol, but are you telling me you wouldn't brick your pants if some angry East End Londoner threatened you?

I fear some folk have got the wrong impression of Englishmen. Perhaps you've been watching too much Family Guy.
2012-05-14 15:20:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Apple...do you suffer with autism or aspergers syndrome by any chance? I'm really not trying to be rude...it's just that I've noticed how you seem to interpret everything you read so literally and you seem unable to recognise irony, sarcasm, double-entendre and other figurative elements of humour.

Just for the record (and no, I'm not actually recording anything) I was joking with you. The very notion that America was once a British peninsula is quite obviously ridiculous, and I seriously doubt that corn dogs had even been invented in 1492.

I have Aspergers but am able to understand sarcasm. Go me! Woot!


I know we've already settled this with Ungreth and the assburgers, but:

;-;


... Anyway... Well, I guess you could say that Religion in America is important whereas in England, or pretty much any other 1st world country, it's not big at all.
2012-05-14 15:22:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Come on guys, tell me you wouldn't want to have this voice:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUXw86Vn8ko

This is the kind of voice that makes people listen.
2012-05-14 15:36:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
London here. Herbs is pronounced 'erbs. I ain't never pronounced the letter h in my life.
2012-05-14 15:38:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Come on guys, tell me you wouldn't want to have this voice:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUXw86Vn8ko

This is the kind of voice that makes people listen.

That's just one man, one incredibly sexy man. Also, he's ours now ALL OURS MWAHAHAHAHAHAA.
2012-05-14 15:51:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


That's just one man, one incredibly sexy man. Also, he's ours now ALL OURS MWAHAHAHAHAHAA.

He almost wouldn't be if it depended on your Immigration department! He's been married to an american since 2008 and even then it took him years to get a permanent visa.

It's weird. For a country that has so many immigrants, the US's immigration policy sure is a ****** to deal with. Maybe it's just easier to move to Canada. Apparently it's just like America, just colder and without all the controversy.
2012-05-14 15:57:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Maybe for a Brummie (Birmingham), Geordie (Newcastle) or perhaps someone from Bristol, but are you telling me you wouldn't brick your pants if some angry East End Londoner threatened you?

I fear some folk have got the wrong impression of Englishmen. Perhaps you've been watching too much Family Guy.

Cockney Londoners are only scary when they start being polite.


London here. Herbs is pronounced 'erbs. I ain't never pronounced the letter h in my life.

Traitor!
2012-05-14 16:06:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Burgers and tea.2012-05-14 16:25:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


Prime Minister (love 'em)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL what

Seriously though, in my experience Americans generally lack any kind of understanding of the rest of the world. I once asked an American if he knew which countries made up the UK, he said England, Scotland, Ireland, and Canada.
2012-05-14 16:59:00

Author:
ARD
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http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4296/10pound10dollar.jpg2012-05-14 17:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL what

Seriously though, in my experience Americans generally lack any kind of understanding of the rest of the world. I once asked an American if he knew which countries made up the UK, he said England, Scotland, Ireland, and Canada.

Well.. considering that England by itself is about the size of Texas which is just one of 50 states, we really can't be bothered.

Ooops! ...correction, make that Louisiana.
2012-05-14 17:11:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Well.. considering that England by itself is about the size of Texas which is just one of 50 states, we really can't be bothered.

*whispers* Texas is 5 times bigger than England

wait was that sarcasm? D:
2012-05-14 17:13:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


*whispers* Texas is 5 times bigger than England

wait was that sarcasm? D:

Oh yeah... make that Louisiana.
2012-05-14 17:22:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Why the hell don't you guys have the same set of laws for the whole country? It doesn't make sense, especially when some states have such crazy laws.2012-05-14 17:36:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Maybe for a Brummie (Birmingham), Geordie (Newcastle) or perhaps someone from Bristol, but are you telling me you wouldn't brick your pants if some angry East End Londoner threatened you?

I fear some folk have got the wrong impression of Englishmen. Perhaps you've been watching too much Family Guy.

Nope, too cute.


Well.. considering that England by itself is about the size of Texas which is just one of 50 states, we really can't be bothered.

Ooops! ...correction, make that Louisiana.

Probably why noone cares about Louisiana either. :'(


words

loool
Its funny watching people try to understand politics
2012-05-14 17:50:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


Why the hell don't you guys have the same set of laws for the whole country? It doesn't make sense, especially when some states have such crazy laws.

Each State can adopt its own laws based upon the people of that region as the US is really quite huge. Just for a comparison of size, Portugal is just a bit larger than the State I live in (Indiana). I think the result is much more fair rather than assuming folks in New Mexico feel exactly the same way as folks in Maine about all the laws that govern them.


Probably why noone cares about Louisiana either. :'(

Nah.. I had a great time down there last time I went. Wonderful people, wonderful food... humidity and heat sucked, but if you drink enough alcohol you hardly notice it.. well, except for the falling down here or there. lol
2012-05-14 17:50:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


He actually did a bad job, even on the first year. In fact, people didn't approve of him being president since the election. On the second year, he tried to get the health care reform passed, which was the worst thing he's done. Britain, France, Australia, and Canada had the same thing before his presidency. The only difference - it worked in those countries. In America, it doesn't work well. 27 states filed a lawsuit to get rid of this thing. On the third year, although he did something good on May 1st, as the invasion of Libya has already taken out another bad guy, he tried to get America to abandon Israel, leaving them in danger with the locals. And finally, by this year, when the Supreme Court is about to strike down the health care reform, he won't let them. He thinks the president has all the power to America, but no. We have three different branches, and they all should have equal power and no absolute federalism.

I'm not trying to bash on Obama, but this is what he actually did.

Wow. You're blaming a massive economic crisis and debt in trillions of dollars on a healthcare reform?

Wow.
2012-05-14 17:56:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


What this thread has turned into:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/03/release-the-kraken-template-500js031710.jpg
2012-05-14 18:02:00

Author:
Night Angel
Posts: 1214


This is a very interesting thread. Never would I have guessed that our members would stoop so low to the point of actually hating one side and glorifying their own. This is getting fun!


He actually did a bad job, even on the first year. In fact, people didn't approve of him being president since the election. On the second year, he tried to get the health care reform passed, which was the worst thing he's done. Britain, France, Australia, and Canada had the same thing before his presidency. The only difference - it worked in those countries. In America, it doesn't work well. 27 states filed a lawsuit to get rid of this thing. On the third year, although he did something good on May 1st, as the invasion of Libya has already taken out another bad guy, he tried to get America to abandon Israel, leaving them in danger with the locals. And finally, by this year, when the Supreme Court is about to strike down the health care reform, he won't let them. He thinks the president has all the power to America, but no. We have three different branches, and they all should have equal power and no absolute federalism.

I'm not trying to bash on Obama, but this is what he actually did.

....

And. Here. We. Go!
2012-05-14 18:02:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


First, America has always been away from Britain due to continental drift.


Uh, Pangea? Remember? Wait, you're too young too remember those days... *cough*

Also, if you never plan on going to england... Why do you need to know differences and stuff?

Also again. Time zones.
Oh, and the UK is next to the most awesome Island ever.... *Cough*
2012-05-14 18:05:00

Author:
Valeview
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Uh, Pangea? Remember? Wait, you're too young too remember those days... *cough*

Oh yeah... those were the days!
2012-05-14 18:07:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Politics today is merely a manifestation of the age-old doctrine of humanity's "Us vs them" psychology. So basically, all politics is nowadays in the US at least is two sides trying to do whatever they can to make the other side look worse. Like sports team rivalries, but with real consequences for the entire nation.

So yeah, I really just don't care about politics anymore. Personally, I think we should be like Canada. Everyone should be like Canada. Why can't we be Canada?
2012-05-14 18:08:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


*whispers* Texas is 5 times bigger than England

wait was that sarcasm? D:

It has to be 5 times bigger to fit all the fat Americans in!

*Ohhhhhhhhh nooooooo he di'int"

And now an obligitory smiley to show I'm only being semi-serious.
2012-05-14 18:09:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Why the hell don't you guys have the same set of laws for the whole country? It doesn't make sense, especially when some states have such crazy laws.

Caps bypass. Why not?

CUZ ITS UMMERIKA AND WE LIVE IN AN DEMOCURRENCY!

USA! USA!


Politics today is merely a manifestation of the age-old doctrine of humanity's "Us vs them" psychology. So basically, all politics is nowadays in the US at least is two sides trying to do whatever they can to make the other side look worse. Like sports team rivalries, but with real consequences for the entire nation.

So yeah, I really just don't care about politics anymore. Personally, I think we should be like Canada. Everyone should be like Canada. Why can't we be Canada?

Because Canada hasn't been relevant for the past few years. Face it, we're America, and we're attention whores.
2012-05-14 18:10:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Come on guys, tell me you wouldn't want to have this voice:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUXw86Vn8ko

This is the kind of voice that makes people listen.

I hear no accent.

0_0
2012-05-14 18:13:00

Author:
PygmyOwl
Posts: 1316


And. Here. We. Go!

What do you mean?

@Night Angel: I just realized that this topic has became our new Mm Picks are starting to go downhill topic, but only this time, it's not about Mm Picks.
2012-05-14 18:14:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Because Canada hasn't been relevant for the past few years. Face it, we're America, and we're attention whores.

That's what I like about Canada. They don't try and make themselves out to be the "Greatest Nation on Earth", or live off all their great accomplishments done by people not saying that it's the Greatest Country on Earth.

But rather, they're all mellow and accepting of the fact that they're just Canada. I can dig that.
2012-05-14 18:14:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


What do you mean?

I was referring to how people were going to reply to your terribly constructed argument and will now see you as a the least credible person on this site for any information regarding the US in general.


That's what I like about Canada. They don't try and make themselves out to be the "Greatest Nation on Earth", or live off all their great accomplishments done by people not saying that it's the Greatest Country on Earth.

But rather, they're all mellow and accepting of the fact that they're just Canada. I can dig that.

Same here. Although our attention gave us some good things: we helped popularized entertainment like games and music, so we didn't mess up that bad.
2012-05-14 18:19:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


@Night Angel: I just realized that this topic has became our new Mm Picks are starting to go downhill topic, but only this time, it's not about Mm Picks.

You only just realised it's not about mm picks?
2012-05-14 18:24:00

Author:
Valeview
Posts: 1581


Same here. Although our attention gave us some good things: we helped popularized entertainment like games and music, so we didn't mess up that bad.

Yeah, pretty much 90% of popular culture consists of media from the US... For better or for worse. That's a degree of influence that no one can ignore.
2012-05-14 18:26:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Yeah, pretty much 90% of popular culture consists of media from the US... For better or for worse. That's a degree of influence that no one can ignore.

That a challenge?
2012-05-14 18:33:00

Author:
Valeview
Posts: 1581


I was referring to how people were going to reply to your terribly constructed argument and will now see you as a the least credible person on this site for any information regarding the US in general.

It's actually true. Are people really going to hate me for my conservatism?
2012-05-14 18:34:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


It's actually true. Are people really going to hate me for my conservatism?

Is this the equivalent of the Race card?

You're making unsubstantiated claims based entirely on your opinions, we can respect your right to have opinions, we don't have to respect your opinion.
2012-05-14 18:36:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Adventure two: The search for sarcasm2012-05-14 18:40:00

Author:
Valeview
Posts: 1581


You only just realised it's not about mm picks?

I meant we were on track on the first few posts, but we were going off topic, changing it to a different topic. This is what the other thread was about.
2012-05-14 18:43:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


I don't know about America. But in England we use facts to prove things.2012-05-14 18:47:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Is this the equivalent of the Race card?

You're making unsubstantiated claims based entirely on your opinions, we can respect your right to have opinions, we don't have to respect your opinion.

Everybody in politics does this. You don't have to believe my opinion, but do not hate me. The whole Obama thing is only an opinion, but whatever I talked about on my blog (which got deleted) are all facts.
2012-05-14 18:54:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Everybody in politics does this. You don't have to believe my opinion, but do not hate me. The whole Obama thing is only an opinion, but whatever I talked about on my blog (which got deleted) are all facts.

You just talked about stating your opinion, then stating facts.
Make your mind up, or I'll begin to believe you less and less.
2012-05-14 18:57:00

Author:
Valeview
Posts: 1581


but whatever I talked about on my blog (which got deleted) are all facts.

well you had a bunch of wrong information on there too, like stating that Mm is rubbish at moderation despite the fact that Sony is in charge of that... so its not that credible either... stating some sources would be a good way to improve if you want to have a greater effect in the debate/future debates.

Anyway this thread is getting derailed very quickly and is turning into an argument between two parties about credibility over anything else. Political opinion is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with the comparison between UK and US as only one side is being discussed here (US ^^).

What about stability, for example, I live in Scotland and we (not all of us) want independance from England. Any similiar situations over the Atlantic?
2012-05-14 19:01:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


You just talked about stating your opinion, then stating facts.
Make your mind up, or I'll begin to believe you less and less.

I kinda went too far this time. I should've never mentioned our president.
2012-05-14 19:06:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


I, for one, thank the British for colonizing North America. Secondly, I thank the colonists for winning the revolution against the British. Thirdly, I thank the North for winning the Civil War against the South and ending slavery. Fourthly, I thank the Presidents of the US for buying a bunch of land and expanding westward. And fifthly, I thank the great folks at Media Molecule in the United Kingdom for making LittleBigPlanet and being kind enough to share it with the world. Thank you, and have a nice day!

2012-05-14 19:56:00

Author:
Night Angel
Posts: 1214


I hope this isn't turning into an argument over which one is "better". No country is better than the other, and no people is better than the other. We all have our differences, and we should respect them. They aren't advantages or disadvantages, just ways of life. There are some people that are seriously offended by stuff like this, and I don't think starting an argument would do them any good. It's people like that that turn into those serious anti-country nuts, even on LBP if you've seen them.
And to answer Dav1d0's question (unless it was rhetorical, but I'm horrible at determining that), no. Not that I know of. I wonder what's going on in Canada. Nothing seems to happen there that us Americans know about.

I, for one, thank the British for colonizing North America. Secondly, I thank the colonists for winning the revolution against the British. Thirdly, I thank the North for winning the Civil War against the South and ending slavery. Fourthly, I thank the Presidents of the US for buying a bunch of land and expanding westward. And fifthly, I thank the great folks at Media Molecule in the United Kingdom for making LittleBigPlanet and being kind enough to share it with the world. Thank you, and have a nice day!


I totally agree with him. In lots of ways before and even some ways now we've helped each other, so why the hate now? I doubt it's some hundred year old grudge or xenophobia. UK was a huge contribution to the melting pot that is the US. In fact it wouldn't even have existed, unless the French or something decided to claim it.
2012-05-14 19:56:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


I already know what the conflict with North and South are, but what's the conflict with England and Scotland?2012-05-14 20:11:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


What about stability, for example, I live in Scotland and we (not all of us) want independance from England. Any similiar situations over the Atlantic?
The states you often read about becoming independent are Texas and California.

Many in England also favour Scotland becoming independent. I would be surprised if this issue was analogous to the ones in the US, though.
2012-05-14 20:13:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


I already know what the conflict with North and South are, but what's the conflict with England and Scotland?

An ancient one that requires a campfire and an old man that we can all gather round
2012-05-14 20:13:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


I already know what the conflict with North and South are, but what's the conflict with England and Scotland?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URSRa8zf_LU
2012-05-14 20:17:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


I already know what the conflict with North and South are, but what's the conflict with England and Scotland?

Warning may contain Mistakes

But you can find Situations like between Scotland and England all over Europe (or other countrys with long colonization).
Due the Hundreds of years of European History there were very much small Kingdoms which were often in War with each other,
some of them fell appart, got conquered, got sold etc.
but the People of this small Kingdoms keept their traditions and Pride and often want to be independent from the country they belong to nowadays.
2012-05-14 20:55:00

Author:
Dhana777
Posts: 122


I already know what the conflict with North and South are, but what's the conflict with England and Scotland?
There are many dimensions to it, historical, modern, and ethnic. It's worth remembering that England is an ex-superpower and has many leftovers from its imperialist days even now.

The modern issues for England are primarily about the assets it holds in the North Sea and the military assets it has in Scotland, along with the distribution of taxation and spending - I don't think the bailout of the Royal Bank of Scotland helped much either. Many feel the central Westminster government is damaging and that a free Scotland would make Westminster more irrelevant, thereby promoting local government in England. The benefits to Scotland are obvious.

There are similar sentiments in Wales and Cornwall. As you can see this is broadly along ethnic lines down the western half of the UK.
2012-05-14 21:01:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Where is Macnme when you need him?

(This is quite interesting.)
2012-05-14 21:06:00

Author:
PygmyOwl
Posts: 1316


well... my attempt to steer this thread back to the US vs UK topic failed miserable... not that I'm complaining, I'm all for talking about Scotland ^^2012-05-14 21:10:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414


The U.S equivalent to Scotland/Ireland wanting independence would be Puerto Rico. Their IRA equivalent would be the Macheteros(BPA).

The difference is people know who the IRA are and Puerto Rico/BPA never gets/got talked about in the U.S.
2012-05-14 21:29:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


Where is Macnme when you need him?

(This is quite interesting.)

Actually, I haven't seen him in a while. Did he quit LBPC?
2012-05-14 21:30:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Where is Macnme when you need him?

(This is quite interesting.)

As soon as they brought up Scotland I immediately thought Macnme. Sucks he isn't active anymore (or at least that I know of).


The U.S equivalent to Scotland/Ireland wanting independence would be Puerto Rico. Their IRA equivalent would be the Macheteros(BPA).

The difference is people know who the IRA are and Puerto Rico/BPA never gets/got talked about in the U.S.

Well, you know the US: if it doesn't have a YouTube concerning about it, nobody would care. Case in point, Kony.
2012-05-14 22:28:00

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CyberSora
Posts: 5551


He almost wouldn't be if it depended on your Immigration department! He's been married to an american since 2008 and even then it took him years to get a permanent visa.

It's weird. For a country that has so many immigrants, the US's immigration policy sure is a ****** to deal with. Maybe it's just easier to move to Canada. Apparently it's just like America, just colder and without all the controversy.

I find it impossible to follow your logic. The more immigrants, the tighter the security. There are a lot of people trying to get in and as always there will be good and bad people. We don't need more bad people in our country. In Mr. Banes situation it seemed to be a case of mistaken identity, they obviously had someone in mind who he happened to fit the description of. His popularity on YT doesn't change that.

As for controversy and Canada, you only know what you hear. If you put a little effort in you'll find they have plenty of problems of their own. The only good thing I've heard in a while is that they've gotten rid of their penny, YAY.


Quite a few differences.

Obviously there are words that are spelt differently. Americans can seem to comprehend words like "centre", so have to simplify it to "center" so that folks can read it easier.

Then there's "college" (for the Yanks) and "university" for us lot over here.

Brits have this dry, self deprecating humour which Americans never get. Americans tend to be very patriotic, whilst us Brits couldn't really give a stuff. A lot of Americans seem to think that all Brits love the Queen, and we all have either posh or cockney accents. Look at most Brit characters in American films/TV shows.... especially those characters played by American actors. I don't think I've ever seen a Yank to a decent regional English accent. That's another think - UK is not a darn country!! England is a country, Scotland is a country, Wales is a country, and Northern Ireland is a country!
There is an incredible arrogance of some Americans, they seem to think that the US is the centre of the world. I mean...... "World Series"??? (in reference to Baseball) Come on!

Religion is taken a lot more seriously in the US too. Obviously you have the close minded bigots like the Westboro Baptist Church, you don't really get that over here, but you do have political parties like the EDL. I'm not saying all Americans are like that of course, but you see a lot of religion talk coming in to main stream politics, particulary from the Republicans.... you don't really see that over here.

Anyway.... I've just realised I've listed a bunch of things that annoy me about the US, rather than focusing on the differences. I don't mean offence by any of it, I'm just going on what I see.

I can't find one thing right in this quote, sorry. Maybe the religion thing in some areas. Oh and if you want to talk about the center of the world, check a map. I can tell you the prime meridian isn't where it is just by chance.
2012-05-14 22:38:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


I can't find one thing right in this quote, sorry. Maybe the religion thing in some areas. Oh and if you want to talk about the center of the world, check a map. I can tell you the prime meridian isn't where it is just by chance.

Errrrrrm.... first of all, I didn't mean the literal centre of the world.

What do you mean there isn't one thing right in this quote? How about the references to spelling differences, the World Series, the awful portrayal of English accents by Americans in mainstream American media. It's all right.

Of course, we all know that if Aliens ever invade the earth, the only country that can save us is America, right?
2012-05-15 09:07:00

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Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Still, from what I hear the screening process seems very selective at times and almost nonexistant at others. I know of a woman that studied in the US, has been married to an American and teaches at the NYU. Sounds like a good candidate, right? But it took her eight years and a lot of bureaucracy to get a green card.

On the other hand, some people apply to the Diversity Immigrant Visa program each year and they're chosen completely at random. They could be letting in upstanding citizens or criminals, who knows?
2012-05-15 09:13:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Pfft. Who cares about the US or the UK? Only thing I know about both: The US looks like a deformed cat and the UK looks like the Grinch's foot.

So Im rooting for Brazil.
2012-05-15 14:33:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


Pfft. Who cares about the US or the UK? Only thing I know about both: The US looks like a deformed cat and the UK looks like the Grinch's foot.

So Im rooting for Brazil.

Brazil looks like a deformed fetus.
2012-05-15 14:58:00

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RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Errrrrrm.... first of all, I didn't mean the literal centre of the world.

What do you mean there isn't one thing right in this quote? How about the references to spelling differences, the World Series, the awful portrayal of English accents by Americans in mainstream American media. It's all right.

Of course, we all know that if Aliens ever invade the earth, the only country that can save us is America, right?

Right, but the alien invasion will never be happen.
2012-05-15 15:07:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


The humour is very different between UK and US. Apparently Two and a Half Men, and How I Met Your Mother are supposed to be funny? Who knew. Obviously doesn't go for all US comedies, some stuff is very good. There's also a lot of crap comedy on over here.... Little Britain *shudders*.

EDIT: @Apple above...... how would you know that? Eh?
2012-05-15 15:08:00

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Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Right, but the alien invasion will never be happen.

Based on fact or your opinion?

And that's another thing.

In America Pedophilia and Paedophilia are spelt the same way, one is acceptable the other is horrible!
2012-05-15 15:11:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Based on fact or your opinion?

And that's another thing.

In America Pedophilia and Paedophilia are spelt the same way, one is acceptable the other is horrible!

Don't you mean 'pronounced'? Because I know Americans pronounce 'paed' as 'ped' (as in 'bed&apos whereas we pronounce it with an ee (as in 'pee&apos sound.

EDIT: Vale's on the rampage in this thread!
2012-05-15 15:43:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Don't you mean 'pronounced'? Because I know Americans pronounce 'paed' as 'ped' (as in 'bed&apos whereas we pronounce it with an ee (as in 'pee&apos sound.

EDIT: Vale's on the rampage in this thread!

Yes I mean spelt, the majority spell Paedophile as Pedophile.

Although a few people do it here..
2012-05-15 15:46:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


The humour is very different between UK and US. Apparently Two and a Half Men, and How I Met Your Mother are supposed to be funny? Who knew. Obviously doesn't go for all US comedies, some stuff is very good. There's also a lot of crap comedy on over here.... Little Britain *shudders*.

EDIT: @Apple above...... how would you know that? Eh?

Because that's science-fiction. But if aliens do invade, we'll save Britain. Anyway, I agree that Little Britain is a stupid show.

@Kern: Not everything I say is based on an opinion. A lot of people believe me. I'm actually smart, and whatever I am saying is usually true. Now're you're saying that everything I say is an opinion?

@Valeview: I've now calmed down since yesterday, but you're still showing hate.
2012-05-15 16:09:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


Because that's science-fiction. But if aliens do invade, we'll save Britain. Anyway, I agree that Little Britain is a stupid show.

@Kern: Not everything I say is based on an opinion. A lot of people believe me. I'm actually smart, and whatever I am saying is usually true. Now're you're saying that everything I say is an opinion?

@Valeview: I've now calmed down since yesterday, but you're still showing hate.

Oh, didn't realise I came across as hateful. Sorreh.
2012-05-15 16:19:00

Author:
Valeview
Posts: 1581


In response to apple, I think a lot of this is turning simply into opinion. Not saying your posts are, just generally. Either it's meant just to poke fun or it seriously is "fact" backed up by opinion. I think it's called bias. I don't blame you for some telling you to lighten up, most of the time stuff like this is very hard to determine, especially in something like text, where tone is hard to identify. In fact, I may or may not be wrong about the bias part. Although you only wanted to know the differences, didn't you? :hero:2012-05-15 16:20:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


In response to apple, I think a lot of this is turning simply into opinion. Not saying your posts are, just generally. Either it's meant just to poke fun or it seriously is "fact" backed up by opinion. I think it's called bias. I don't blame you for some telling you to lighten up, most of the time stuff like this is very hard to determine, especially in something like text, where tone is hard to identify. In fact, I may or may not be wrong about the bias part. Although you only wanted to know the differences, didn't you? :hero:

It's all my fault. Ever since I brought up that whole "Obama" thing, this topic is starting to be a war from all against one. I created this to find out what Britain has different to America (like government system, units of measurement etc.) I mentioned Obama to show one flaw about America, but this caused people to be mad at me. I'll not talk about that on this topic again.
2012-05-15 16:28:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


The humour is very different between UK and US. Apparently Two and a Half Men, and How I Met Your Mother are supposed to be funny? Who knew. Obviously doesn't go for all US comedies, some stuff is very good. There's also a lot of crap comedy on over here.... Little Britain *shudders*.

EDIT: @Apple above...... how would you know that? Eh?

I quite like How I Met Your Mother, it's not awful. Two and a Half Men is just dull, and neither are anything on Red Dwarf (that was opinion by the way) :3

Ooh, I know something that's different in the UK and the US! Keyboard layouts! My friend has a server that's stuck on the American keyboard layout and it's very annoying. Could anyone tell me where the '#' is, I quite need it.
2012-05-15 16:31:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


Yes I mean spelt, the majority spell Paedophile as Pedophile.

Although a few people do it here..

Why do the Americans keep removing our vowels! 'Colour' becomes 'color', 'honour' becomes 'honor'. What next.... 'hour' becomes 'hor'?
2012-05-15 16:36:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Ooh, I know something that's different in the UK and the US! Keyboard layouts! My friend has a server that's stuck on the American keyboard layout and it's very annoying. Could anyone tell me where the '#' is, I quite need it.
It's where the ? sign is normally, shift+3. The most annoying one for me is trying to type an @ when using the American layout, it always catches me out.
2012-05-15 16:46:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


I found another difference: The weather.

It rains a lot in the UK. It also has warmer weather.
The US has colder winters and drier climates, especially near the border.
2012-05-15 16:54:00

Author:
Apple2012
Posts: 1408


It's where the ? sign is normally, shift+3. The most annoying one for me is trying to type an @ when using the American layout, it always catches me out.

So THAT's why that happens sometimes. I never realized there was a difference in keyboards. This thread actually is interesting!
Erm... another difference...
I suppose the topics we learn in school. Particularly history. I never learnt anything about the US civil war, but I suppose the US don't teach much about some aspect of British history. Possibly our civil war (Royalists v Parliamentarians). Though you probably know of something that came from it (Or at least heavily inspired)... Humpty Dumpty (Which was a cannon in Colchester that got destroyed).
2012-05-15 17:00:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


It's where the ? sign is normally, shift+3. The most annoying one for me is trying to type an @ when using the American layout, it always catches me out.

really? Then what do you have for Shift+4? (Here it's $, which would be the equivalent of your British pound, which is apparently a 3 :/


So THAT's why that happens sometimes. I never realized there was a difference in keyboards. This thread actually is interesting!
Erm... another difference...
I suppose the topics we learn in school. Particularly history. I never learnt anything about the US civil war, but I suppose the US don't teach much about some aspect of British history. Possibly our civil war (Royalists v Parliamentarians). Though you probably know of something that came from it (Or at least heavily inspired)... Humpty Dumpty (Which was a cannon in Colchester that got destroyed).

Well, we learned quite a bit about European history due to the fact that American history is derived from European history. That, and I took AP Euro, but I also did it back in 9th grade as a regular class.
2012-05-15 17:05:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


really? Then what do you have for Shift+4? (Here it's $, which would be the equivalent of your British pound, which is apparently a 3 :/


1!
2"
3?
4$
5%
6^
7&
8*
9(
0)

ctrl alt 4 or alt gr 4 €
2012-05-15 17:08:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


really? Then what do you have for Shift+4? (Here it's $, which would be the equivalent of your British pound, which is apparently a 3 :/

Well, we learned quite a bit about European history due to the fact that American history is derived from European history. That, and I took AP Euro, but I also did it back in 9th grade as a regular class.

Shift 4 is still $ here.
Good point about the history, I suppose its more of a 'We didn't learn about your history' than the other way around. Then again, maybe it was my school.

Going back to keyboards, I found these pictures on wiki:
UK:
39735

US:
39736

Edit: Need to check how to do images since the change...
2012-05-15 17:13:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


The US's history is very recent so I guess americans learn global history in general until they get to the part where the British colonize America, and then focus more on the national history?2012-05-15 18:30:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


The US's history is very recent so I guess americans learn global history in general until they get to the part where the British colonize America, and then focus more on the national history?

Well, we learn a lot about the French Revolution and all that stuff, then the Industrial Revolution.

However, most of the past 200 years we shared our history. For instance, we talk a lot about World War I and II, but those were more European Wars despite us taking a part in them. Also, America has dabbled in pretty much every other country for the past 70 years, so while we learn "America's" history, a lot of that is just about us in Vietnam and against the Soviets and all of our foreign relations.
2012-05-15 18:33:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Yes I remember in high school there a required world history and then in U.S history, the first semester was all European again.

By the way, I think someone already mentions this but I don't feel like looking to quote.
How is the American Revolution taught in England? George Washington has got to be right up there with Gandhi as the biggest jerk ever right?

Ok Ok, the Gandhi part was stupid but I am legitimately curious about the Revolution and American founding fathers and such.

As I recall, in elementary school we learn about nothing but the greatness of the Revolutionaries. Also, Benedict Arnold is sucks poop. It's not until much later that the idea that there were people who didn't want to separate from England even came up.
2012-05-15 18:56:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787


I don't think there is anyone whose ancestors weren't opressive jerks, no matter which nationality they have.2012-05-15 19:40:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I don't think there is anyone whose ancestors weren't opressive jerks, no matter which nationality they have.
Indeed. But the point is, are we taught about their oppressive jerkiness, not just whether or not they actually were.
2012-05-15 19:47:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
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Why do the Americans keep removing our vowels! 'Colour' becomes 'color', 'honour' becomes 'honor'. What next.... 'hour' becomes 'hor'?

I personally think American spellings are an improvement on the originals since they're more streamlined. Color still says colour without the "U", so the "U" is an unnecessary letter. (Hour would not say hour without a "U", so in this case the U has a purpose). The nature of language is that it evolves over time and I would consider American spellings to be simply an evolution of the English language. Mankind evolved when nature decided to cut out the crap and dock our tails which were no longer needed. English evolved when the Americans decided to cut out the crap and dock letters which were no longer needed.

...and just for the record I'm English, so I have no nationalistic bias towards American spellings.
2012-05-15 19:54:00

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Ungreth
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Indeed. But the point is, are we taught about their oppressive jerkiness, not just whether or not they actually were.

I don't know about how british and american schools teach history, but I was taught about how my country opressed Brazil, Angola and other colonies. National history shouldn't be all about the parts people are proud of.
2012-05-15 20:00:00

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SnipySev
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Indeed. But the point is, are we taught about their oppressive jerkiness, not just whether or not they actually were.

Yes... at least I was. Maybe you didn't pay attention in class? lol
2012-05-15 20:12:00

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jwwphotos
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I personally think American spellings are an improvement on the originals since they're more streamlined. Color still says colour without the "U", so the "U" is an unnecessary letter. (Hour would not say hour without a "U", so in this case the U has a purpose). The nature of language is that it evolves over time and I would consider American spellings to be simply an evolution of the English language. Mankind evolved when nature decided to cut out the crap and dock our tails which were no longer needed. English evolved when the Americans decided to cut out the crap and dock letters which were no longer needed.

...and just for the record I'm English, so I have no nationalistic bias towards American spellings.

Wow. Don't know if I've ever seen a British person say that American ways of doing tiny things are not inherently inferior to British ways. I'm speechless. Hm :/
2012-05-15 20:23:00

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RockSauron
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Americans tend to do TV dramas a lot better than we do over here. Probably slightly ahead with regards to movies, but mainstream British cinema is very much on the rise.2012-05-15 20:33:00

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Ali_Star
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Is there a UK equivalent of Jersey Shore?2012-05-15 21:08:00

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Bremnen
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I like 'u's. They are pretty. Like 'z's and 'y's. 'Y's are classy. 'x's are more of a faux bad-*** letter. 'K's are okay, as consonants go. But 'u' is definitely the best vowel, I mean...

*babbles incoherently*
2012-05-15 21:12:00

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PygmyOwl
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Is there a UK equivalent of Jersey Shore?

Geordie shore I think maybe The Only Way Is Essex we would need an expert to verify that.
2012-05-15 21:15:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Geordie shore I think maybe The Only Way Is Essex we would need an expert to verify that.

Wow, they actually made a show called Geordie Shore.

Wait, why am I surprised? Of course they would.

So... Ge or die? Yeah, that should be General Electrics new motto.
2012-05-15 21:19:00

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RockSauron
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What Americans call fanny packs, we call bum bags.

I guess to an American a "bum bag" must sound like something hobos sleep in at night.

As an Englishman I would never ask a woman if I could put my lunch in her fanny pack without getting her extremely drunk first.
2012-05-15 22:26:00

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Ungreth
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National history shouldn't be all about the parts people are proud of.

Yes... at least I was. Maybe you didn't pay attention in class? lol

Yes, I agree with this. What I meant was we aren't taught both sides of the story at younger ages. When you learn about the revolution early on, you spend more time learning about patriotic songs and sayings, how the British were unfair, and everyone wanted to separate from them. Also think of say, the Gold Rush, Thanksgiving, Columbus. In the end, history is glorified, that's how it is.

Yes, later you learn that a fair amount of people actually liked being British subjects, the Gold Rush involved lots of land grabbing and slave (or practically so) labor. And let's not forget how well it went for Native Americans. But this is well after the schools specifically teach every other way. Believe me, I love living in the US, but I don't go around thinking its history holds the moral standard for which all goodness is measured.

But anyway, I digress. The original question was to compare how the American Revolution is taught in the UK, specifically England, versus the United States. How do other history books portray George Washington and everyone else? Are we a bunch of upstarts who threw a tantrum over a little thing like taxes?

Also to get with the rest of he conversation...wait, Jersey Shore?
2012-05-15 22:42:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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I think there's a saying that's something like:
'History is written by the victors.'
(Googled it, apparently that is the saying and supposedly Winston Churchill said it)

I wouldn't say US films are better, the Harry Potter films were produced by a British company. And Aardman films are good. Not to mention Monty Python and Shaun of the dead.

Edit: I should really say that UK films aren't better either. I think they're both great. Well, unless it's a bad film when being made elsewhere won't save it.
2012-05-15 22:52:00

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Jedi_1993
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Let's not forget size, the UK only occupies about the same space as one of our average sized states. Think Oregon or Washington. Quite the difference considering Oregon not being a country, and the UK being four.2012-05-15 23:25:00

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Littlebigdude805
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@Anyone from the UK: What does the c-word mean in the United Kingdom?2012-05-15 23:48:00

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Apple2012
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Let's not forget size, the UK only occupies about the same space as one of our average sized states. Think Oregon or Washington. Quite the difference considering Oregon not being a country, and the UK being four.

But look how much power we have..

*maniacal laugh*


@Anyone from the UK: What does the c-word mean in your country?

A woman's under parts.. Or a man's.. I'm not sure which c word you're referring to
2012-05-15 23:49:00

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Kern
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@Anyone from the UK: What does the c-word mean in your country?

Second, third, fourth and fifth letters of Scunthorpe.
2012-05-15 23:55:00

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Rabid-Coot
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@Anyone from the UK: What does the c-word mean in the United Kingdom?

French Fries.

I know, it's odd, right?
2012-05-15 23:57:00

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RockSauron
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Second, third, fourth and fith letters of Scunthorpe.

Yes. Here in America, it is considered hate speech towards anyone who's a female. Or it means "a very bad woman", but only in the US.
2012-05-15 23:57:00

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Apple2012
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Yes. Here in America, it is considered hate speech towards anyone who's a female. Or it means "a very bad woman", but only in the US.

England is also very politically correct FYI
2012-05-16 00:00:00

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Kern
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Yes. Here in America, it is considered hate speech towards anyone who's a female. Or it means "a very bad woman", but only in the US.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Etinogard/tumblr_ln3lrqmhar1qjuha7o1_400.gif
2012-05-16 00:01:00

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Rabid-Coot
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So it means a guy?2012-05-16 00:02:00

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Apple2012
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So it means a guy?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Etinogard/741k.gif
2012-05-16 00:04:00

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Rabid-Coot
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But look how much power we have..

*maniacal laugh*


Idk how you measure power. So I can't really say " Yes look at all that power, good job.".

EDIT:@Rabbid-Coot What in the world is that animal and how many can I buy?
2012-05-16 00:04:00

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Littlebigdude805
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Idk how you measure power. So I can't really say " Yes look at all that power, good job.".

Power = Intensity * Area

And we're pretty intense and it's all crammed into a small area... So not very
2012-05-16 00:05:00

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Kern
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What I meant was we aren't taught both sides of the story at younger ages.

I was.. both in grade school and in high school, but maybe they taught more back then..
2012-05-16 00:20:00

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jwwphotos
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I was.. both in grade school and in high school, but maybe they taught more back then..
True that. Or maybe not so much when but where. Some school districts or even teachers will have obviously different teaching styles, even if the overall curriculum is more or less the same.

Also, an alternative definition

Power: the ability to get your way despite resistance.
2012-05-16 01:00:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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True that. Or maybe not so much when but where. Some school districts or even teachers will have obviously different teaching styles, even if the overall curriculum is more or less the same.

Or my teachers were alive during that time period? lol Some of them were pretty darn old! Most here would say I am pretty darn old too!
2012-05-16 01:15:00

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jwwphotos
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When I saw this thread I thought here comes the racism. Lol I looked 2 posts later and already it happened. Man its such an idiocy. How could a American hate a Brittian? If he didn't excist you probably didn't born.

What I am trying to say as nor brittian nor American keep it nice ok?
2012-05-16 01:57:00

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dutch
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When I saw this thread I thought here comes the racism. Lol I looked 2 posts later and already it happened. Man its such an idiocy. How could a American hate a Brittian? If he didn't excist you probably didn't born.

What I am trying to say as nor brittian nor American keep it nice ok?

The whole conflict is over. I'm not fighting.
2012-05-16 02:33:00

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Apple2012
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When I saw this thread I thought here comes the racism. Lol I looked 2 posts later and already it happened. Man its such an idiocy. How could a American hate a Brittian? If he didn't excist you probably didn't born.

What I am trying to say as nor brittian nor American keep it nice ok?

Racism? lulwut?
2012-05-16 02:41:00

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RockSauron
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When I saw this thread I thought here comes the racism. Lol I looked 2 posts later and already it happened. Man its such an idiocy. How could a American hate a Brittian? If he didn't excist you probably didn't born.

What I am trying to say as nor brittian nor American keep it nice ok?

Not sure if I would go far as to say that.
2012-05-16 02:44:00

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xxMATEOSxx
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Yeah, I wouldn't say that either. Mostly because I have decent grammar, but I also have half a brain. We're getting along fine.2012-05-16 02:46:00

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Littlebigdude805
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When I saw this thread I thought here comes the racism. Lol I looked 2 posts later and already it happened. Man its such an idiocy. How could a American hate a Brittian? If he didn't excist you probably didn't born.

What I am trying to say as nor brittian nor American keep it nice ok?

I don't see any racism in this thread. I see only good natured ribbing and playful teasing between friends.

I think the ability to have a laugh about our differences without becoming over sensitive and falling out with each other is an attribute that folk on both sides of the Atlantic share.
2012-05-16 07:41:00

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Ungreth
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Yup.
It's an interesting point.
The fine line between playfull teasing between friends and outright bullying.
It's classic male bonding to insult friends - but if the insult is too accurate it can cause offense instead of laughter.

What's funny about the Brit/US relationship is that you have a clearly superior nation in terms of monetary wealth, military strength and land mass (US), but the Brits still have a superior attitude. Maybe it's because of our emperial past, the brits have more history (written history obviously)- and I would argue a greater impact on global culture (There's a reason that "English" is considered the global universal trading language).

But what right do any of us have to claim any credit for any acheivement from any historical figure that just happened to have been born within the same country as ourselves, simply through an accident of birth?
2012-05-16 10:24:00

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Macnme
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We missed you, man!2012-05-16 10:47:00

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SnipySev
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But what right do any of us have to claim any credit for any acheivement from any historical figure that just happened to have been born within the same country as ourselves, simply through an accident of birth?

I was an accident? D:
2012-05-16 16:06:00

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Littlebigdude805
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Apple: Guys, mind saying a few of the differences between the US and UK? :-D
"Everyone": Okie, the accent, the size....
"Someone": No, it must be political and full of teh hate!
everyone: Yuss.
/thread.
2012-05-16 16:26:00

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Valeview
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I was an accident? D:

No. Well, maybe. Ask your parents.

But where you were born was an accident. And we shouldn't take pride because some guy completely unrelated to us in our country did something cool years ago.

that's why I like Canada. They don't try to say they're the greatest cause of Bioware or Justin Bieber. They're just "Eh, we're Canada, eh?"

And that's awesome. Eh?
2012-05-16 16:30:00

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RockSauron
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No. Well, maybe. Ask your parents.

But where you were born was an accident. And we shouldn't take pride because some guy completely unrelated to us in our country did something cool years ago.

that's why I like Canada. They don't try to say they're the greatest cause of Bioware or Justin Bieber. They're just "Eh, we're Canada, eh?"

And that's awesome. Eh?

That's a reason to be shameful of Canada... no wonder they don't mention it!
2012-05-16 16:39:00

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Ali_Star
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Well I wouldn't be proud of either of those things to begin with. I agree, we can't credit or pride in the work of others no matter their nationality. We should be more concerned with our species as a whole.

Back on topic, there seems to be some misinterpretation of what's going on in the thread. There is neither fighting nor hate in this thread at this time. So please don't come stumbling in claiming otherwise.

Let's talk food Over here we put sugar in just about everything. You don't even notice once your tastes acclimate to it. I was laughing when I saw TB (context: A Brit who recently moved to the US.) tweet about how our normal bread tastes like cake XD . I wonder what cake tastes like then. It's just funny how what is bland to me is sweet to someone else.
2012-05-16 16:48:00

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Littlebigdude805
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It's where the ? sign is normally, shift+3. The most annoying one for me is trying to type an @ when using the American layout, it always catches me out.

Thanks!

I know nothing about US history.


Let's talk food Over here we put sugar in just about everything. You don't even notice once your tastes acclimate to it. I was laughing when I saw TB (context: A Brit who recently moved to the US.) tweet about how our normal bread tastes like cake XD . I wonder what cake tastes like then. It's just funny how what is bland to me is sweet to someone else.

As for food, when I was on holiday in the US, I particularly noticed there was cinnamon and peanut butter everywhere. Which is a shame, because they're both delicious and they're harder to find in the UK.

We also found some shop, and in "Ethnic foods" there was Cadbury's (at a very high price). That made me laugh.

I'd say overall we do chocolate and tea better, whereas you do things like biscuits and cereal (I can't remember the name of the cereal I had, but it was amazing) better.

Also, while I remember, I found American TV awful. Not the programs, the actual channels themselves. So many ad breaks. For us, 1 half-an-hour program has one ad break, in the middle at 15 minutes. There were at least 3 in the US (you can see it in the UK on things like The Simpsons, where things go black and then the thing you just watched repeats itself). I remember one program going to an ad break and coming back for the credits. News programs had an ad break, came back for another 5 minute story, then off to another ad break.

Oh, and some channel that showed the weather on every 9th minute of the hour, then ads, then weather. That was perhaps the most pointless thing I've watched ever.
2012-05-16 16:59:00

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kirbyman62
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We also found some shop, and in "Ethnic foods" there was Cadbury's (at a very high price). That made me laugh.


We've got a few specialist sweet shops that do imports of the American stuff also at a very high price.
2012-05-16 17:09:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Cadbury? Ethnic? That seems a bit odd. I can find Cadbury anywhere. I'm not big on peanut butter, but cinnamon is great. As for tea I would sure hope you are better at it. The only tea here I have had answers any questions as to why most drink coffee. Although, I don't drink coffee either. As for cereals, my guilty pleasure is cinnamon toast crunch . A lot of cereals here are closer to dessert than breakfast.

EDIT: Yeah the TV is pretty much unbearable for everyone. I watch my few shows on Hulu, even then I have to endure a few ads.
2012-05-16 17:11:00

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Littlebigdude805
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Well I wouldn't be proud of either of those things to begin with. I agree, we can't credit or pride in the work of others no matter their nationality. We should be more concerned with our species as a whole.

Back on topic, there seems to be some misinterpretation of what's going on in the thread. There is neither fighting nor hate in this thread at this time. So please don't come stumbling in claiming otherwise.

Let's talk food Over here we put sugar in just about everything. You don't even notice once your tastes acclimate to it. I was laughing when I saw TB (context: A Brit who recently moved to the US.) tweet about how our normal bread tastes like cake XD . I wonder what cake tastes like then. It's just funny how what is bland to me is sweet to someone else.

Our chocolate is a lot nicer, as is our beer.... in my opinion anyway. A lot more fatty food in America from what I've seen.

I won a competition on another forum, that was run by someone from America, and the prize was some American goodies. Cherry Twizzlers were one thing (I believe they're Walter Bishop's favourite). They tasted ok, kinda soapy. Ho ho's, which were like a crap version of Cadbury's Mini Rolls, some weird fish shaped sweets that I can't remember the name of, and finally some Twinkies. My goodness! You don't know sweet until you've had your first bite of a Twinkie! Go on youtube and search for babies tasting lemons, and you'll get the idea of the type of face I pulled! My word, they were filling! I don't think I could manage more than 2 at a time, getting through 1 was enough of a struggle!!
2012-05-16 18:30:00

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Ali_Star
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We've got a few specialist sweet shops that do imports of the American stuff also at a very high price.

Only one I remember went out of business, which is a shame. They had hot sauce with funny and slightly inappropriate names
2012-05-16 19:06:00

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kirbyman62
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Also, while I remember, I found American TV awful. Not the programs, the actual channels themselves. So many ad breaks. For us, 1 half-an-hour program has one ad break, in the middle at 15 minutes. There were at least 3 in the US (you can see it in the UK on things like The Simpsons, where things go black and then the thing you just watched repeats itself). I remember one program going to an ad break and coming back for the credits. News programs had an ad break, came back for another 5 minute story, then off to another ad break.

I don't like the amount of ads we have, I don't think I could watch TV in America if it's really as bad as you say. Do they have a channel like BBC One where there are no ads? I think ABC is the equivalent in America, does that have ads?
2012-05-16 19:11:00

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Doopz
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My goodness! You don't know sweet until you've had your first bite of a Twinkie! Go on youtube and search for babies tasting lemons, and you'll get the idea of the type of face I pulled! My word, they were filling! I don't think I could manage more than 2 at a time, getting through 1 was enough of a struggle!!



Oh, I would so much want to try a Twinkie, especially after seeing Zombieland.

There's quite a lot of stuff I'd like to try, both products and various food, which I pledged to attain one time in my life.
I went to LA near Hollywood once, and we had a walk along Venice Beach. It was pretty packed, and there were a lot of carts and shops and stuff. I remember seeing a Big Bang Theory shirt, which was quite funny, seeing as I find myself watching The Big Bang Theory at least once a day.

Speaking of which, what about TV? Excluding the ad break frequency.
From what I've gathered, soap operas do look quite a bit dramatic more often than British soaps. Like Emmerdale and Eastenders, which I think would be kind of lame for Americans. They only rarely have scenes with sad/dramatic music in them. Plus they're in places like Yorkshire, which is basically a big range of rocks, grass and mud. Residentail areas seem to be a lot bigger in the US too, especially in suburbs. I think the majority of houses in Britain are terraces, chains of attached houses, or semi-detached houses, with one half of the building one house and the second half another, instead of seperate houses with full area around their house. There's like 10 metre's worth of lawn on the front of the suburbian house in America.
2012-05-16 19:18:00

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Denim360
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I don't like the amount of ads we have, I don't think I could watch TV in America if it's really as bad as you say. Do they have a channel like BBC One where there are no ads? I think ABC is the equivalent in America, does that have ads?

That was the other thing, I couldn't locate any of the channels. In the end I just knew the channel I liked as '9', so no, I've no idea. We did manage to locate BBC America, maybe that didn't? I don't particularly know.

Also, on food (sorry, these things pop in my head at awkward times), restaurants in America are so much better. The amount of food compared to the price is ridiculous, to the point where I feel most UK restaurants just rip you off, and for the most part, so much better quality.
2012-05-16 19:21:00

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kirbyman62
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We did manage to locate BBC America, maybe that didn't? I don't particularly know.

Hm, according to this (http://www.bbcamerica.com/faq/) it does have adverts.
2012-05-16 19:27:00

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Doopz
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Only one I remember went out of business, which is a shame. They had hot sauce with funny and slightly inappropriate names

That was "Let's Eat," wasn't it? I remember that all the American products looked very garish and colourful. Much unlike our products, actually. Ours are more straight-to-the-point!
2012-05-16 19:43:00

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FlipMeister
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I don't like the amount of ads we have, I don't think I could watch TV in America if it's really as bad as you say. Do they have a channel like BBC One where there are no ads? I think ABC is the equivalent in America, does that have ads?

I think HBO has no ads.
2012-05-16 19:55:00

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Rabid-Coot
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yep, the PREMIUM cable channels have no ads, well besides the 30 minutes of "Here's movies and shows you should see" that come on in between movies. I don't have the premium channels any longer. Too expensive to watch movies that most of the time are old, talking TBS old. I know I know. On some nights they show the new movies but during the day and other nights, it's movies like, "A Fish called Wanda" or "Uncle Buck." Uncle Buck? Really. I can watch that on TBS or TNT like 4 or 5 times a month! Anyway, I have a DVR so any shows that I like I just record for later viewing and never watch commercials. So I'm not subjected to their subliminal messages. I will NOT bow down to corporate America! Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go take some tylenol (The pain reliever hospitals use most) because I ate too many skittles (Taste the rainbow) while driving down the road listening to my Sirius Satellite (The Best Radio on Radio) in my Chevy truck (Like a Rock!) with it's Goodyear tires (We discover, you explore) and an engine that runs on Pennzoil Motor oil (not just oil, Pennzoil).2012-05-16 20:53:00

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biorogue
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When I saw this thread I thought here comes the racism. Lol I looked 2 posts later and already it happened. Man its such an idiocy. How could a American hate a Brittian? If he didn't excist you probably didn't born.

What I am trying to say as nor brittian nor American keep it nice ok?

Nvm I am new here
2012-05-16 21:13:00

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dutch
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I don't know if it's as common in the UK, but here we treat some foods as more of a novelty than anything else. The most common being Twinkies, I don't know anyone who actually buys Twinkies or any other Hostess product as if it was normal. Then there's the ridiculous burgers and sandwich experiments that some restaurant chains will come up with and advertise to gain attention. It works really well and in the end it isn't about whether it is good for you or if it tasted super amazing, it's just the novelty of trying a ridiculous and possibly genius culinary creation.2012-05-16 22:23:00

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Littlebigdude805
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In a relatively dramatic attempt to make something from gourmetgaming (http://www.gourmetgaming.co.uk/), I found that us Americans don't have some foods that those in the UK do.. When I saw 'digestive biscuits' on the list, I immediately imagined some sort of Bob-Evan's biscuits n' gravy like substance being partially digested and regurgitated back onto a plate. After googling, I was pleased to find they are simply a cookie/cracker like thing that I would indeed eat:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Digestive_biscuits.jpg
2012-05-17 02:55:00

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anoken
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In a relatively dramatic attempt to make something from gourmetgaming (http://www.gourmetgaming.co.uk/), I found that us Americans don't have some foods that those in the UK do.. When I saw 'digestive biscuits' on the list, I immediately imagined some sort of Bob-Evan's biscuits n' gravy like substance being partially digested and regurgitated back onto a plate. After googling, I was pleased to find they are simply a cookie/cracker like thing that I would indeed eat:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Digestive_biscuits.jpg

Digestives are awesome. We also have milk chocolate Digestives, dark chocolate Digestives, and even chocolate caramel Digestives (which are a gift from the gods!). Hobnobs are nice too, don't know if you have them over there?
2012-05-17 09:12:00

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Ali_Star
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Digestives are awesome. We also have milk chocolate Digestives, dark chocolate Digestives, and even chocolate caramel Digestives (which are a gift from the gods!). Hobnobs are nice too, don't know if you have them over there?

You can usually find them in the International section at some grocery stores. We have tried Digestives. Pretty yummy and reminded me of a bit drier style of animal crackers or this one kind of Girl Scout cookie they sell. Not sure we tried Hobnobs. I will have to add that to the list.

I heard that sausage (bangers) are quite a bit different over there than here. Like maybe more bread and filler in the UK version? So if you have a taste for one or the other, you might not like the counterpart that much. From doing a bit of searching what we have over here is more like bratwursts. I guess you can find more authentic bangers here or there, but it would be from a butcher that knew the difference.

I heard the same with hamburgers.. someone used to a burger here in the states, might not like the UK version. Maybe mad cow tastes better? lol I could be mistaken, but I don't think the UK imports US beef due to that very issue.
2012-05-17 12:07:00

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jwwphotos
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You can usually find them in the International section at some grocery stores. We have tried Digestives. Pretty yummy and reminded me of a bit drier style of animal crackers or this one kind of Girl Scout cookie they sell. Not sure we tried Hobnobs. I will have to add that to the list.

I heard that sausage (bangers) are quite a bit different over there than here. Like maybe more bread and filler in the UK version? So if you have a taste for one or the other, you might not like the counterpart that much. From doing a bit of searching what we have over here is more like bratwursts. I guess you can find more authentic bangers here or there, but it would be from a butcher that knew the difference.

I heard the same with hamburgers.. someone used to a burger here in the states, might not like the UK version. Maybe mad cow tastes better? lol I could be mistaken, but I don't think the UK imports US beef due to that very issue.

Hobnobs have a slightly salty/sweet taste I'd say. They are good. Similar to digestives, you can get chocolate hobnobs. Another gift from the biscuit gods!

It could be that the differences betweeen our sausages/burgers and yours, could be down to the farming methods, and perhaps the animals themselves? I don't eat many burgers, but if I do, I usually make sure it's a proper burger, and not like that rubbish you get in MacDonals or Burger King!
2012-05-17 12:30:00

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I heard that sausage (bangers) are quite a bit different over there than here. Like maybe more bread and filler in the UK version? So if you have a taste for one or the other, you might not like the counterpart that much. From doing a bit of searching what we have over here is more like bratwursts. I guess you can find more authentic bangers here or there, but it would be from a butcher that knew the difference.

I heard the same with hamburgers.. someone used to a burger here in the states, might not like the UK version. Maybe mad cow tastes better? lol I could be mistaken, but I don't think the UK imports US beef due to that very issue.

You get what you pay for with sausages, you can buy a pack of 20 sausages for ?1.50 and their pork content will be around 30% or something like cumberland or lincolnshire sausage in a pack of 6 for ?2-3 with a pork content of around 85% with better quality meat being used and some herbs and black pepper in them too.

The name bangers for sausages has largely died off now.
2012-05-17 12:37:00

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That was "Let's Eat," wasn't it? I remember that all the American products looked very garish and colourful. Much unlike our products, actually. Ours are more straight-to-the-point!

That was it!


Digestives are awesome. We also have milk chocolate Digestives, dark chocolate Digestives, and even chocolate caramel Digestives (which are a gift from the gods!). Hobnobs are nice too, don't know if you have them over there?

Digestives are amazing full stop (which is another thing, to my knowledge, Americans say "period" to emphasise a point, I'm really sure what we say (not "full stop", I don't hear that around much)).


yep, the PREMIUM cable channels have no ads, well besides the 30 minutes of "Here's movies and shows you should see" that come on in between movies. I don't have the premium channels any longer. Too expensive to watch movies that most of the time are old, talking TBS old. I know I know. On some nights they show the new movies but during the day and other nights, it's movies like, "A Fish called Wanda" or "Uncle Buck." Uncle Buck? Really. I can watch that on TBS or TNT like 4 or 5 times a month! Anyway, I have a DVR so any shows that I like I just record for later viewing and never watch commercials. So I'm not subjected to their subliminal messages. I will NOT bow down to corporate America! Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go take some tylenol (The pain reliever hospitals use most) because I ate too many skittles (Taste the rainbow) while driving down the road listening to my Sirius Satellite (The Best Radio on Radio) in my Chevy truck (Like a Rock!) with it's Goodyear tires (We discover, you explore) and an engine that runs on Pennzoil Motor oil (not just oil, Pennzoil).

Yeah, we have satellite TV which most people know as "Sky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_%28UK_and_Ireland%29)" (I think there are others that do satellite, but they might be cable). You can record shows on that, so even without our huge amounts of adverts we still skip them. Oddly enough, despite you guys not having Sky, the channels owned by them show pretty much exclusively American stuff. It's where I watch The Simpsons (which is where most of my US knowledge comes from).
2012-05-17 17:53:00

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cumberland or lincolnshire sausage in a pack of 6 for ?2-3 with a pork content of around 85% with better quality meat being used and some herbs and black pepper in them too.

A good quality, properly seasoned, cumberland or linconshire sausage beats the rest of the world's sausages hands down.
2012-05-17 18:10:00

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In a relatively dramatic attempt to make something from gourmetgaming (http://www.gourmetgaming.co.uk/), I found that us Americans don't have some foods that those in the UK do.. When I saw 'digestive biscuits' on the list, I immediately imagined some sort of Bob-Evan's biscuits n' gravy like substance being partially digested and regurgitated back onto a plate. After googling, I was pleased to find they are simply a cookie/cracker like thing that I would indeed eat:


You just broke my brain. I had gone through life thinking digestives were a universal constant.

Milk chocolate are the best. >‿>

Any other foods that weirdly vanish across the border? I remember these awesome biscuits from Germany and France I couldn't find anywhere else. Also they seem to have a strange lack of Walkers.
2012-05-17 18:22:00

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Walkers.

See Lays.

http://www.fritolay.com/assets/images/blue/lays-classic.gif
2012-05-17 19:00:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Why do they often change brand names across different countries? Another one is Lynx, which is Axe in the US. And Where's Wally, which is Where's Waldo in the US. I'm sure there's loads more, but those are two off the top of my head.2012-05-17 20:05:00

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Why do they often change brand names across different countries? Another one is Lynx, which is Axe in the US. And Where's Wally, which is Where's Waldo in the US. I'm sure there's loads more, but those are two off the top of my head.

Its often similar products that are seperate entities initially being bought up by larger multi-nationals who then distribute their product under the name of the acquired brand.
2012-05-17 20:22:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Its often similar products that are seperate entities initially being bought up by larger multi-nationals who then distribute their product under the name of the acquired brand.

That makes sense, I suppose renaming the product in one country to match the name in another country would just cause more confusion in that case.
2012-05-17 20:43:00

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http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4296/10pound10dollar.jpg

Mankind evolved when nature decided to cut out the crap and dock our tails which were no longer needed.

I had no idea Darwin is on your money - that's so cool!

A nice segue into evolution. It reminds me of the article On Darwin's Birthday, Only 4 out of 10 Americans Believe in Evolution (http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/darwin-birthday-believe-evolution.aspx). It's a great read: sad, but interesting. Not surprisingly, the people with the least belief in evolution were the most churchgoing, and the most churchgoing had the least knowledge of what theory Darwin actually described.

I know mentioning evolution might seem out of place in a comparison between the US and the UK but it's such a fundamental unifying theory of science that it's disappointing to consider how the US feels about it. President Bush (I forgot which one - probably Bush the younger - but then again, does it really matter?) publicly expressed doubts about evolution, one of the reasons I can't stand him.

I think the government needs to take a more active stance in ensuring our intellectual integrity, for lack of a better term. Free speech and freedom of religion is dandy but not when you have a country that believes in 9/11 conspiracies, psychics, ESP, aliens (the little bug-eyed men kind), Bigfoot, ghosts, and so on, but gives evolution the cold shoulder. America seems to me a lot more superstitious than the UK.

Thoughts?


I don't like the amount of ads we have, I don't think I could watch TV in America if it's really as bad as you say.

US Comercials are an abomination, an absolute horror. It's true. Most channels have a 3-5 minute commercial break every 6-10 minutes. Oftentimes a particular network keeps the same commercials on hand for a number of weeks and if you're watching a marathon you'll see the same commercials over and over. /rant

The commercials use the most annoying tricks imaginable. On one hand I can understand it's good for the market to encourage consumerism and all that but on the other hand I wonder if exaggerated or deceptive advertisements should even be legal. Seriously. Take Dove moisturizer, for example. If you watch two hours of TV you're bound to see this commercial two or three times. The tagline is "Dove penetrates deeper," which is actually a recycled concept from commercials aired by Dove just a few years ago.

http://tprofet.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dovemoisture.jpg?w=300

I can't help wondering how many people take this seriously. According to the test Dove is just more viscous (assuming they didn't use water with blue food coloring, or something, which is equally plausible), and viscosity has nothing to do with quality. Speaking of quality, another of their favorite strategies is advertising their pH-optimized formula, because supposedly shampoo with a neutral pH works better than the basic stuff. It's clever of them to target pH, a subject too scientific and too foreign to so many Americans. Lo and behold, tests show a 7-pH soap doesn't clean as well as the alternatives.

I could go on. For example, another shampoo commercial condemned the high water concentrations of traditional shampoos and bragged how theirs had more cleaning agents... or something. So many things are wrong with this. One, it's not gonna matter what percent composition of water your shampoo has when you're standing underneath a shower head. Two, water serves a very viable purpose in shampoo, to dissolve the other components.

Diamond commercials are the worst IMO. You can't have true love without big fat diamonds, these commercials say. Fast food is another pet peeve of mine. See here (http://www.everydayminimalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fast-food-vs-reality-big-mac.jpg), for example.

Besides being less frequent, how are commercials in the UK?
2012-05-20 18:19:00

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Incinerator22
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Besides being less frequent, how are commercials in the UK?
Politically correct, science-abusing, attempt-to-be-meme-y, intellect-bashing.

But sometimes they are so good people stop focusing on the product being offered and go "I want that orange thing from the advert"

I love this little guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BwOMBlato
2012-05-20 19:00:00

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Besides being less frequent, how are commercials in the UK?

A Meerkat from a price comparison website advert has a best selling book.
2012-05-20 19:20:00

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Rabid-Coot
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I'm guessing it's the same in the US, but perfume adverts over here don't make a single bit of sense.

Also, in response to Kern's post, particularly where he mentions political correctness - almost every DFS (or whatever) advert features an interracial couple and/or a mixed-race couple. Every time one of those adverts comes on, I'm always looking out for the (what I call) "Mixed-race sofa girl".
2012-05-20 19:45:00

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The U.S does fat better.2012-05-20 19:53:00

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Oh geez, the perfume adverts at Christmas...And also sofas.
...
Who wants a sofa for Christmas anyway?

Hm, some ads are just awesome though. Can't remember if they originated exactly from the UK though...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DrFY3H-u8w

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What? I can only post 1 video?
http://i1040.photobucket.com/albums/b408/DizzyZebra/_.jpg
2012-05-20 20:23:00

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The U.S does fat better.

I could resemble that remark... lol
2012-05-20 20:24:00

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jwwphotos
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Oh good,
BANZAI.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0JCc2ugTLQ
All the Bravia ones to be honest. I also liked the Twinings Gets Back to You advert. The animation was really nice.
2012-05-20 20:27:00

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PygmyOwl
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Politically correct, science-abusing, attempt-to-be-meme-y, intellect-bashing.

But sometimes they are so good people stop focusing on the product being offered and go "I want that orange thing from the advert"

I love this little guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BwOMBlato

I LOVE THAT LITTLE ORANGE THING! Whenever he comes on the tv I keep bopping my head in time with him. WANT.

Regarding perfume adverts, I love how lee mack puts it:

(Was going to embed but remembered there's a naughty word at the end. Click at your own risk! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHwnBKEixFs )
2012-05-21 02:32:00

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rialrees
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Haha. I was actually thinking about that Lee Mack thing when I was typing my post above. 2012-05-21 09:13:00

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Ali_Star
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Politically correct, science-abusing, attempt-to-be-meme-y, intellect-bashing.

But sometimes they are so good people stop focusing on the product being offered and go "I want that orange thing from the advert"

I love this little guy [awesome video]

So do I, he is amazing. As you said, though, most adverts aren't as good.


I'm guessing it's the same in the US, but perfume adverts over here don't make a single bit of sense.

The rule is, if it makes no sense whatsoever, it's a car or perfume advert.

However, English medicine adverts don't have to put side effects. I laughed so much first time I saw one in the US. It was going on about how amazing it was, then some dude came on and said as quickly as he can: "Common side effects may include irritation of skin, coughing and vomiting, in rare cases may cause death. Do not take if you are pregnant. Always read the label."

That Mitchell and Webb Look particularly enjoy taking the mic out of various adverts, like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1KUWf5erk
2012-05-21 16:12:00

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According to Tom Baker... Britain is a country. Britain is called Britain. And finally, Britain. Not sure if this applies to America though.2012-05-21 16:30:00

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However, English medicine adverts don't have to put side effects. I laughed so much first time I saw one in the US. It was going on about how amazing it was, then some dude came on and said as quickly as he can: "Common side effects may include irritation of skin, coughing and vomiting, in rare cases may cause death. Do not take if you are pregnant. Always read the label."


They always seem to mimic the fast talking disclaimer guy in The Simpsons.
2012-05-21 16:35:00

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I laughed so much first time I saw one in the US. It was going on about how amazing it was, then some dude came on and said as quickly as he can: "Common side effects may include irritation of skin, coughing and vomiting, in rare cases may cause death. Do not take if you are pregnant. Always read the label."

Oh yeah... totally idiotic. All the goodness at the front and then at the end all the bad news. I really like the ones that say things like.. Discontinue use if continued bleeding from the nose, mouth or ears, unexpected blindness, you feel faint, or suffer sudden unconsciousness.

SAY WHAT!? Like it did it during testing or something!?!?!? Wouldn't that be a problem!!?
2012-05-21 16:38:00

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Oh geez, the perfume adverts at Christmas...And also sofas.
...
Who wants a sofa for Christmas anyway?

Hm, some ads are just awesome though. Can't remember if they originated exactly from the UK though...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DrFY3H-u8w

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What? I can only post 1 video?
http://i1040.photobucket.com/albums/b408/DizzyZebra/_.jpg

I believe the balls commercial was filmed in the US (San Fransisco to be precise).
2012-05-21 17:32:00

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According to Wikipedia it was shot in the Indian states of Rajastan and Uttar Pradesh, health and safety laws were too strict elsewhere. o: Hm, I only know it aired here.

What are we counting as a British or American commercial?
2012-05-21 19:18:00

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PygmyOwl
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I love how this went from differences, to an argument over the history, to differences again.2012-05-21 21:29:00

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I love how this went from differences, to an argument over the history, to differences again.

You must be new to the internet, this happens all the time.
2012-05-21 22:48:00

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I love how this went from differences, to an argument over the history, to differences again.
Aw, I love when things happen too fellah

It's a bit concerning that they DON'T tell you the side effects honestly.



They always seem to mimic the fast talking disclaimer guy in The Simpsons.

Yes and every bird seems to mimic a mocking bird.
2012-05-21 22:51:00

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It's a bit concerning that they DON'T tell you the side effects honestly.

We never had side effects in the advert. They have to tell you somewhere, I'm not sure on specifics (defiantly label, maybe website), but not in the TV ads. I also notice you're adverts sometimes directly mention competition, some dog food picture put a picture of their opponents product to say how there's were better. We only ever really get that with Tesco and Asda.


According to Wikipedia it was shot in the Indian states of Rajastan and Uttar Pradesh, health and safety laws were too strict elsewhere. o: Hm, I only know it aired here.

I saw on some program that it was filmed in San Francisco and it smashed everyone's cars and stuff so they weren't allowed to do it again, and had to film it somewhere else. Pretty cool they actually did it in the first place though, instead of CGI-ing it.
2012-05-22 16:55:00

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We never had side effects in the advert. They have to tell you somewhere, I'm not sure on specifics (defiantly label, maybe website)

Allways read the label is the normal text on our adverts.
2012-05-22 20:48:00

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Rabid-Coot
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I bet this land isn't British: New England2012-05-25 18:12:00

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Apple2012
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I bet this land isn't British: New England

Guess who colonized it?
2012-05-27 15:36:00

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Testudini
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Guess who colonized it?

I dunno, penguins?
2012-05-27 15:40:00

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Valeview
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Oh! Oh! I know the major difference now!

UK primarily comprises of three separate states (England/Britain, Scotland and Northern Ireland). Everyone hates England/Britain.

US primarily comprises of fifty states and a capitol district (won't list them 'cuz that'd just get repetitive). Everyone hates D.C. and each other.

I'm so smart.
http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/19493000/ngbbs4a4e260d9b874.jpg
2012-05-28 00:13:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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UK has a K in it.2012-05-28 08:29:00

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UK has a K in it.

That's very obvious. This thread is more than that.

Here's another difference. First floor means the first floor above ground floor, but in the United States, first floor means ground floor. First floor above ground floor is second floor if living in the US.
2012-05-29 01:46:00

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Zed...they say zed....zed? yes zed.

Isn't that just the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard ever?
2012-05-29 02:03:00

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Zed...they say zed....zed? yes zed.

Isn't that just the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard ever?

Nope, that would be 'zee'
2012-05-29 02:10:00

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Zee is correct, because I said so.

EDIT: You can thank Jedi_1993 for aggravating me and consequently making me impose this upon you. From now on everyone shall pronounce it "zee" not only when speaking but even when thinking it. It's all for the better and I promise you will understand when you're older.
2012-05-29 02:14:00

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Personally I prefer Zed.2012-05-29 08:11:00

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Oh! Oh! I know the major difference now!

UK primarily comprises of three separate states (England/Britain, Scotland and Northern Ireland). Everyone hates England/Britain.

US primarily comprises of fifty states and a capitol district (won't list them 'cuz that'd just get repetitive). Everyone hates D.C. and each other.

I'm so smart.
http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/19493000/ngbbs4a4e260d9b874.jpg

O_O

I'm hoping this was sarcasm... I may have missed the boat. But thought it might be worth stating, as a sort of geography lesson:

Great Britain = England, Wales & Scotland (The big messy Island)

United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland = England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland.

?ire/Ireland = the southern region of Ireland, independent from Northern Ireland.

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39933&d=1338326386

EDIT: Oh, I actually failed to add. Each area in the UK is not a state, they are countries in their own right Yet another difference!
2012-05-29 22:23:00

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rialrees
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I just don't know how anyone could live on a Whale.. Wouldn't that get a bit slippery at times? 2012-05-29 22:37:00

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jwwphotos
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Yeah, it rains enough. I always wonder if there's a blowhole somewhere up Mount Snowdon... 2012-05-29 22:39:00

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rialrees
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Zed...they say zed....zed? yes zed.

Isn't that just the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard ever?
You won't like how people pronounce beta in the UK.
2012-05-30 05:20:00

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I'm already aware, I enjoy er- ENDURE a healthy amount of entertainment from certain British youtubers. Beta is a war to be waged on another day. Right now it is zee dawn of zee new era of zee.2012-05-30 05:25:00

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Are there many americans playing as british characters in british cinema or television? It really took me by surprise when I realized Hugh Laurie from House M.D. and Andrew Lincoln from The Walking Dead are actually english. Then there's also Lena Heady from The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And Christian Bale from Batman is Irish. And Kiefer Sutherland from 24 is british-canadian.

Are these guys pros or is the american accent really easy to fake?
2012-05-30 10:55:00

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SnipySev
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Americans obviously think it's too difficult to say "zed" so they simplify it to "zee".


Are there many americans playing as british characters in british cinema or television? It really took me by surprise when I realized Hugh Laurie from House M.D. and Andrew Lincoln from The Walking Dead are actually english. Then there's also Lena Heady from The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And Christian Bale from Batman is Irish. And Kiefer Sutherland from 24 is british-canadian.

Are these guys pros or is the american accent really easy to fake?

Also Jason Isaacs in Awake (which was a very good show by the way).
2012-05-30 11:17:00

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Ali_Star
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You won't like how people pronounce beta in the UK.

Wait... How do other people pronounce it?
2012-05-30 11:30:00

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Kern
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Bee-tah, bey-tah or beh-tah?

Maybe we should ask the greeks. It's a letter of their alphabet after all.
2012-05-30 11:55:00

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SnipySev
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Bee-tah, bey-tah or beh-tah?

Maybe we should ask the greeks. It's a letter of their alphabet after all.

It's Bey-tah.
2012-05-30 12:36:00

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Kern
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I don't know about anyone else, but I say "bee-tah".2012-05-30 12:37:00

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Ali_Star
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I've always pronounced it beh-tah, but I'm portuguese.


It's Bey-tah.

Is that how the greeks say it?
2012-05-30 12:42:00

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SnipySev
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I've always pronounced it beh-tah.



Is that how the greeks say it?

Yeah, my Physics Teacher pronounces it like that, and he is Greek. So that's how i pronounce it.
2012-05-30 12:46:00

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Kern
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Are there many americans playing as british characters in british cinema or television? It really took me by surprise when I realized Hugh Laurie from House M.D. and Andrew Lincoln from The Walking Dead are actually english. Then there's also Lena Heady from The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And Christian Bale from Batman is Irish. And Kiefer Sutherland from 24 is british-canadian.

Are these guys pros or is the american accent really easy to fake?

Peter Dinklage is an American doing an English accent in Game ot Thrones.

Also Christian Bale is Welsh.
2012-05-30 13:08:00

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Rabid-Coot
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Also Christian Bale is Welsh.

Take him! We don't want him!!
2012-05-30 13:43:00

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rialrees
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Take him! We don't want him!!

But... He's BATMAN
2012-05-30 13:44:00

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Kern
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Peter Dinklage is an American doing an English accent in Game ot Thrones.

Also Christian Bale is Welsh.

This is weird. I swear I read somewhere he's Irish, you say he's Welsh, Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bale) says he's English, but it also says he's born in Haverfordwest which is in Wales. The hell?
2012-05-30 13:48:00

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SnipySev
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James Marsters does a blinkin good English accent as Spike, actually. There's probably loads of american actors who do such a good job that you just never knew they weren't British! (I always figured Marsters was, until i looked it up!)2012-05-30 13:57:00

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rialrees
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This is weird. I swear I read somewhere he's Irish, you say he's Welsh, Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bale) says he's English, but it also says he's born in Haverfordwest which is in Wales. The hell?

I used to live a few doors down from Christian Bale in Bournemouth, it was around the same time he was filming Empire of the Sun. He also went to the boys school right next to mine and snogged my mate Emma lol.
2012-05-30 15:07:00

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Kiminski
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Americans obviously think it's too difficult to say "zed" so they simplify it to "zee".

And that folks, is how you achieve the perfectly blended attitude of ignorance and arrogance. Seriously? I see this multiple times a day on the good old web.

US does something in a simpler fashion: "LOL yeah they have to dumb it down for those stupid Americans."

US does something in a more complicated fashion: "What!? Why are those stupid Americans over complicating it?"

I mean the only explanation for someone doing something different from your own way MUST be because they are stupid.
2012-05-30 15:50:00

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Littlebigdude805
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And that folks, is how you achieve the perfectly blended attitude of ignorance and arrogance. Seriously? I see this multiple times a day on the good old web.

US does something in a simpler fashion: "LOL yeah they have to dumb it down for those stupid Americans."

US does something in a more complicated fashion: "What!? Why are those stupid Americans over complicating it?"

I mean the only explanation for someone doing something different from your own way MUST be because they are stupid.

To be fair, the Americans mainly simplify language, which whilst some bits are annoying (IE. Paedo to Pedo (Thus changing the meaning completely)), Other bits (IE Colour to Color) are absolutely fine.

Could you give an example of them over complicating something?
2012-05-30 16:03:00

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Kern
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And that folks, is how you achieve the perfectly blended attitude of ignorance and arrogance. Seriously? I see this multiple times a day on the good old web.

US does something in a simpler fashion: "LOL yeah they have to dumb it down for those stupid Americans."

US does something in a more complicated fashion: "What!? Why are those stupid Americans over complicating it?"

I mean the only explanation for someone doing something different from your own way MUST be because they are stupid.

If the smiley face in his post is of any indication, I think he was kidding.
2012-05-30 16:29:00

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SnipySev
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Could you give an example of them over complicating something?

Remakes of british shows. Almost always overdone, from those that I've seen.
2012-05-30 16:31:00

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rialrees
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Remakes of british shows. Almost always overdone, from those that I've seen.

..and usually terrible, at least in the case of Top Gear.
2012-05-30 17:12:00

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jwwphotos
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And that folks, is how you achieve the perfectly blended attitude of ignorance and arrogance. Seriously? I see this multiple times a day on the good old web.

US does something in a simpler fashion: "LOL yeah they have to dumb it down for those stupid Americans."

US does something in a more complicated fashion: "What!? Why are those stupid Americans over complicating it?"

I mean the only explanation for someone doing something different from your own way MUST be because they are stupid.

Christ! Do you have it in for me or something? Lighten up, it's only some good natured p***-taking.


To be fair, the Americans mainly simplify language, which whilst some bits are annoying (IE. Paedo to Pedo (Thus changing the meaning completely)), Other bits (IE Colour to Color) are absolutely fine.

Could you give an example of them over complicating something?

To be fair, they use "elevator", whereas we say "lift", so that's one example of us using a simplified word.

Oh, and to add to the list of Brits playing Yanks in TV, there is the chap who plays Gary in Alphas, who is actually from Birmingham.

EDIT: A prime example of Americans taking remakes too far, is the remake of Sherlock, which replaces the male Sherlock.... with Lucy Liu. That's bound to fail!
2012-05-30 17:39:00

Author:
Ali_Star
Posts: 4085


Which version of "The Office" do you guys like best, the american or the british?2012-05-30 17:40:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


The word yank makes baby jesus want to strangle puppies.2012-05-30 17:44:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


And that folks, is how you achieve the perfectly blended attitude of ignorance and arrogance. Seriously? I see this multiple times a day on the good old web.

US does something in a simpler fashion: "LOL yeah they have to dumb it down for those stupid Americans."

US does something in a more complicated fashion: "What!? Why are those stupid Americans over complicating it?"

I mean the only explanation for someone doing something different from your own way MUST be because they are stupid.
I kind of agree. Not saying that the UK is filled with people like this, that'd just be ignorant and arrogant of MYSELF, but there are some people like this--worldwide even. They just can't accept or respect differences. It's not "simplifications" or "modifications", it's just how it adapted to fit the culture. I was talking with someone who said that the Americans "butchered" the English language and that they were using it wrong. He also said that if others were going to use it like the Americans did, no one deserves to use the language that belongs to the Englishman.
Never in my life have I heard such ignorant and selfish words about a language. First of all, sharing is caring man. And second of all, language is something that is created by branching off of others' and making changes. It's not something you can steal or ruin.
As for "simplifying" things, just because a word has two less syllables doesn't mean the users are too stupid to pronounce it. So what if "color" is missing the "u" or something? That's like saying UK is stupid for saying "lift" instead of "elevator". It's seriously not a big deal.
This is what I meant when I said differences should be respected (not saying Ali_Star was being mean, I'm pretty sure it was just a joke ) but I'm talking about when I see it elsewhere. A whole country should not be bashed for their cultural differences or preferences. For a statement as ignorant as claiming everyone in the country is "stupid" or "fat" or "pale" to be ratified would take meeting the whole population of that country give-or-take. I just wished those kinds of rude people would have a better attitude towards the rest of the globe. Some seriously sound like they want to do something terrible.
I mean seriously. In some places, the name of a country is actually an insulting adjective. Harsh.
SPREAD THE LOVE BUTTER MAN.
2012-05-30 17:47:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


I kind of agree. Not saying that the UK is filled with people like this, that'd just be ignorant and arrogant of MYSELF, but there are some people like this--worldwide even. They just can't accept or respect differences. It's not "simplifications" or "modifications", it's just how it adapted to fit the culture.

adapted past participle, past tense of a?dapt (Verb)
Verb:
Make (something) suitable for a new use or purpose; modify.
Become adjusted to new conditions

Just saying.
2012-05-30 18:08:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


I kind of agree. Not saying that the UK is filled with people like this, that'd just be ignorant and arrogant of MYSELF, but there are some people like this--worldwide even. They just can't accept or respect differences. It's not "simplifications" or "modifications", it's just how it adapted to fit the culture. I was talking with someone who said that the Americans "butchered" the English language and that they were using it wrong. He also said that if others were going to use it like the Americans did, no one deserves to use the language that belongs to the Englishman.
Never in my life have I heard such ignorant and selfish words about a language. First of all, sharing is caring man. And second of all, language is something that is created by branching off of others' and making changes. It's not something you can steal or ruin.
As for "simplifying" things, just because a word has two less syllables doesn't mean the users are too stupid to pronounce it. So what if "color" is missing the "u" or something? That's like saying UK is stupid for saying "lift" instead of "elevator". It's seriously not a big deal.
This is what I meant when I said differences should be respected (not saying Ali_Star was being mean, I'm pretty sure it was just a joke ) but I'm talking about when I see it elsewhere. A whole country should not be bashed for their cultural differences or preferences. For a statement as ignorant as claiming everyone in the country is "stupid" or "fat" or "pale" to be ratified would take meeting the whole population of that country give-or-take. I just wished those kinds of rude people would have a better attitude towards the rest of the globe. Some seriously sound like they want to do something terrible.
I mean seriously. In some places, the name of a country is actually an insulting adjective. Harsh.
SPREAD THE LOVE BUTTER MAN.

So you're wanting world peace then? lol

We're all victims of prejudice (we get told we have bad teeth 24/7 lol), just like we're all guilty of making rash judgements. It has nothing to do with being American, British, Muslim, *** or whatever, people in general just aren't that tolerant of each other.
2012-05-30 19:07:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545


The mean the whole reason that there is a possible hostile feeling between the US and UK is because citizens of both are drip fed steriotypical images of the other, for example, I am from the UK and I once saw an episode of one Family american animation show which suggested that people from England are either Upper-class, Homosexual or Both. I mean how is that supposed to make us feel? We also often watch shows which sometimes show Americans as dribbling fools?

It has always been like this due to the conflict hundreds of years ago where the Americans won their independance....
2012-05-30 19:48:00

Author:
butter-kicker
Posts: 1061


I don't think the demeaning stereotypes are only between the US and UK.

According to the media the brits are snobs, americans are fat and stupid, the french surrender in every war, south americans all belong to drug cartels, mexicans are illegal immigrants, italians are mobsters, middle-easterners are terrorists, arabians are desert nomads, germans are nazis, the dutch are potheads or sex workers, africans are poor, irishmen are drunks, eastern european are farmers, chinese are cheap labor, japanese are weird perverts, and so on. Are these stereotypes true? Of course not, they're all false or ridiculously exaggerated.

I never heard a stereotype for portugal. Maybe people think we're a province of Spain or the place for the brit's summer vacations. We feel left out, man.
2012-05-30 20:28:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


So you're wanting world peace then? lol
Don't we all? :hero:
Unless some buzzkill doesn't. Like Bill O' Reilly's evil twin.
But I'm sure there's more to chaos than petty name-calling. Power, resources, and hatred and all that junk.
2012-05-30 20:37:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195


petty name-calling. Power, resources, and hatred and all that junk.

Didn't you just sum up humanity?
2012-05-30 20:38:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


I never heard a stereotype for portugal. Maybe people think we're a province of Spain or the place for the brit's summer vacations. We feel left out, man.
Sssh... Between you and me (and everyone else that's viewing this thread)... In Brazil the Portuguese have a stereotype of being stupid... Just a stereotype, no hard feelings, right? <3
2012-05-30 20:44:00

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gdn001
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