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It is codenamed the Orbis.

http://kotaku.com/5896996/the-next-playstation-is-called-orbis-sources-say-here-are-the-details



The Next PlayStation is Called Orbis, Sources Say. Here are the Details.

Read Later (http://www.readability.com/articles/axck7rdh#) http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hsuo9tvfunijpg/xlarge.jpg (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hsuo9tvfunijpg/original.jpg)While the official reveal of Sony's next home console could still be months away, if not longer, Kotaku has today learned some important details concerning the PlayStation 3's successor.
For one, the console's name—or at least its codename/working title—is apparently Orbis. And it's being planned for release in time for the 2013 holiday season.
The details in this story come from a reliable source who is not authorized to talk publicly about next-gen hardware but has shared correct information with us before. What they're telling us in specifics matches much of what we've heard and reported in generalities in recent weeks.
A Sony spokesperson declined to comment about these details, citing the company's policy not to comment on "rumors or speculation."
WHAT'S IN A NAME

Orbis. Say it out loud. Sounds a little like the word "four", doesn't it? Only it doesn't make the next PlayStation sound like a bad horror movie sequel.
It's also a name loaded with meaning. The word "Orbis" itself, from Latin, means circle, or ring, or even orbit. Not terribly helpful. Combine it with the name of Sony's new handheld system, though, and you have the common term Orbis Vita (or, in strict Latin, Orbis Vitae). Which means "The circle of life". Could the Vita be playing a very important role in the development and use of the next PlayStation home console? Maybe!
Such symbolism also suggests that rather than being a codename, like most companies employ when still developing a console (think NGP, or Durango (http://kotaku.com/5885539/the-next-xbox-is-code+nameddurango)), this might actually be the machine's final name. We don't know that, though, so keep an open mind about things.
THE NEXT PLAYSTATION, AT A GLANCE


Is called, or at least carries the working codename, "Orbis".
Is scheduled for a Holiday 2013 release.
Won't be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
Will lock new games to a PSN account as an anti-used games measure.
New games can be bought either on Blu-Ray or downloaded.
Current specs are an AMD x64 CPU and AMD Southern Islands GPU

CURRENT SPECS

Our main source supplied some basic specs for the console, but as the future is always in motion, bear in mind these could easily change between now and the Orbis' retail release. Still, if you'd like to know what developers are being told to plan for now, here you go.


AMD x64 CPU
AMD Southern Islands GPU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Islands_%28GPU_family%29)

The former, that's largely something we've heard before (http://kotaku.com/5889410/playstation-4-ditching-the-cell-processor-sources-say-which-leads-to-some-wild-theories), but the latter is interesting. That's the name given to many of AMD's 2012 roster of high-end PC cards. The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160, which is far in excess of the needs of most current HDTV sets. It'll also be capable of playing 3D games in 1080p (the PS3 could only safely manage 3D at 720p).

NEXT YEAR



Our main source tell us that "select developers" have been receiving dev kits for the new console since the beginning of this year. Revised and improved versions of these kits were sent out around GDC, while more finalised beta units will be shipped to developers towards the end of 2012.



That should hopefully give developers plenty of time to have launch games ready for the Orbis' retail release, which will be in time for the 2013 holiday season. If you can remember the PS3 launch—it's OK if you can't, it was a while ago—that too was in time for the holiday shopping season (November 2006 for Japan and North America).

SO LONG, PS3 GAMES

Remember how the PlayStation 3 swiftly dropped the ability to play PS2 games? Well, our main source tell us the Orbis won't even bother, and that Sony has no plans to offer backwards compatibility for its existing catalogue of PS3 games.SO LONG, USED GAMES

BACK IN DECEMBER...

A post left on Pastebin back in December (http://pastebin.com/j4jVaUv0) also referred to the PlayStation 4 as Orbis, calling it a codename in the same vein as Microsoft's Durango. The system specs in that post differ significantly from what Kotaku has heard, and the lack of a hard drive by default goes against the idea of downloading full games to the system.

The Pastebin post also mentions that big name developers like EA were disappointed by an Orbis much less powerful than Microsoft's next machine, so there's a chance that it's the story of an earlier prototype that didn't make the grade. We've reached out to EA for comment.

Just like the next Xbox/Durango (http://kotaku.com/5879202/sources-the-next-xbox-will-play-blu+ray-may-not-play-used-games-and-will-introduce-kinect-2?popular=true), we've heard from multiple sources that the Orbis will likewise have some kind of anti-used games measures built into the console. Here's how our main source says it's currently shaping up: new games for the system will be available one of two ways, either on a Blu-Ray disc or as a PSN download (yes, even full retail titles). If you buy the disc, it must be locked to a single PSN account, after which you can play the game, save the whole thing to your HDD, or peg it as "downloaded" in your account history and be free to download it at a later date.

Don't think you can simply buy the disc and stay offline, though; like many PC games these days, you'll need to have a PSN account and be online to even get the thing started.

If you then decide to trade that disc in, the pre-owned customer picking it up will be limited in what they can do. While our sources were unclear on how exactly the pre-owned customer side of things would work, it's believed used games will be limited to a trial mode or some other form of content restriction, with consumers having to pay a fee to unlock/register the full game.

This would allow used games to continue to be sold at outlets such as GameStop, while also appeasing major publishers who would no longer have to implement their own haphazard approaches to "online passes" (http://kotaku.com/5879439/why-an-xbox-with-anti+used-games-tech-makes-perfect-sense).

That's all we've got for you at the moment. Remember, none of this information is confirmed, and even the information that is locked down in March 2012 may change before the console's eventual release. This is just what we've been told Sony is working on and planning for as of today. That being the case, how do you think it's shaping up?

Given the timing on this, and Media Molecule's abrupt departure earlier this year, I foretell that a Media Molecule game will be counted within the launch titles for this platform. What do you guys think?

Discuss.		2012-03-29 19:42:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

I was reading it here and...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2012/mar/28/playstation-4-rumours


The site's source says that game purchases via Blu-ray disc or PSN will be locked to a specific console which will need to remain online while playing; those who buy second-hand titles may only be able to access a trial version of the content, with the option of paying for a full registration.

I'm gonna be very upset if this is true. What if i wanna play my games offline like i normally do? or my internet goes out? 0_0 *mew		2012-03-29 19:49:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

This has got to be an april fools joke, right?2012-03-29 20:51:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

This has got to be an april fools joke, right?

I sure hope so, some of the changes they listed sound terrible.		2012-03-29 20:56:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208

That would also mean my brother and I would have to buy 2 copies of every game we want just so we could each play them. I mean, if that part is exactly true, which I doubt, but... I dunno. Seems like Sony's been really going against used game sales lately...

If this is true, I guess I'll just save up for a decent PC. Not gonna just be basically punished because people buy used games...

This has to be some sort of April Fools joke. Sony's not that stupid are they?

And I thought it was bad when they restricted "gamesharing" to 2 systems (When my family had 3 PSPs that we shared a PSN account on), or when PSN passes were added. (Which aren't that bad, since they at least let multiple user profiles play, but still)

Do not want.		2012-03-29 21:10:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106

There's plenty of time for things to be changed but its always good to be vocal about things that you don't wan't to help the process.2012-03-29 21:11:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

? Won't be backwards compatible with PS3 games.

Ahahaha! This has to be an April Fool's joke. Even Sony won't be stupid enough to do that....

Right?		2012-03-29 23:11:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I can imagine Sony having a meeting where they list everything gamers dont want and one person saying, "People would be alright with this, right?" then everyone else in the room going "Yea, sure, why not?".

The only way they would be able to make up for doing all of that is if they made it to where you can mod the games.		2012-03-29 23:23:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

Okay. So the locked games thing does sound slightly plausable as used games have been a hot subject for quite a while now.

But Sony, or any company for that matter, isn't stupid enough to sell us a product thats as sucky as that.
"No PS3 game compatability"
"No used games (Possibly even online requirement)"
'Orbis' matching perfectly with Vita, doesn't even make sense.

This is either an early April fools joke from Sony or some idiot spreading lies.

If this is for real though. All I haz to say is

SONY, Y U BEIN SO STOOPID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

In all seriousness though, I don't believe a bit this is for real. Especially so soon after the release of the Vita. And all the crap features (If you can even call them that) make for one terrible marketing plan.		2012-03-30 02:54:00

Author:
TradeMarkSG
Posts: 65

If you guys wanna play PS3 games after the PS4 is released then keep your PS3. It's not nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.2012-03-30 03:28:00

Author:
jalr2d2
Posts: 256

Im not getting this if it DOES come out.... And I bet millions are the same as me. No one wants to buy a complete new console that cant play games youve spent hundreds of dollars on, and its a waste getting a new console in the first place when the PS3 is epic as it is.2012-03-30 04:59:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840

From what I have seen these still fall under rumors but I can see them happening. Well, the no backwards compatibility would not be a surprise, though it would still suck. The game to account lock might be a deal breaker if that stays though. Either way it's a little early to say what's really going to happen. Here's hoping though.2012-03-30 05:49:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787

Orbis. Say it out loud. Sounds a little like the word "four", doesn't it?

Wat.

Have I been pronouncing the word "four" wrong?		2012-03-30 06:13:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

I'm preparing the new Playstation during my sleepless nights down in my basement.
Sony doesn't know anything about it, it's a surprise, so keep it mum.		2012-03-30 12:22:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Yeah, so regarding the DRM rumors regarding the new platform...

I am not surprised by the draconic DRM they are suggesting at all. Game developers and the profit-hungry corporations behind them have always been looking for more ways to suck more money from our wallets. First it was DLC, then it was subscription-based content delivery, and now it's "go online to activate the game you bought and nobody else can use it". Not surprising. Not welcome, either... but this is all just a rumor right now.

As far as not having backwards compatibility, that's fine with me. I'm not buying a new system so I can play games on my PS3. I am buying a new system to play next-gen games. I'll keep my old system and play those games on it if need be.

I'm more concerned to find out what kind of specs we'll be looking at, and more importantly, when the official announcement will be.		2012-03-30 14:50:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

As far as not having backwards compatibility, that's fine with me. I'm not buying a new system so I can play games on my PS3. I am buying a new system to play next-gen games. I'll keep my old system and play those games on it if need be.



While I agree with you... I think it annoys people because when the hardware eventually fails and replacments become hard to find, they find themselves unable to play their games. Having backwards compatibility is not only more convinient... but also a kind of back up feature.

As for locking games to accounts... it's a sad day for gaming if this is the route it takes		2012-03-30 14:55:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414

if they include that you have to remain online to play thing. then to be honest i can't see myself buying PS4. that part alone would be a deal killer for me. *mew2012-03-30 15:33:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

So some of the first things we know is that it isn't backwards compatible and locks games to PSN accounts? How is that making me want to buy it?2012-03-30 16:19:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893

What about downloadable games? Will those work on the PS4, err, Orbis? Can I redownload Infamous onto the Orbis?

This just smells fishy.

Here's my problem. Why change the name? Everyone's just gonna call it "PS4".		2012-03-30 16:59:00

Author:
flyinhawaiian
Posts: 357

What about downloadable games? Will those work on the PS4, err, Orbis? Can I redownload Infamous onto the Orbis?

This just smells fishy.

Here's my problem. Why change the name? Everyone's just gonna call it "PS4".

nobody calls the vita a psp2 XD

All they need to do now is announce compulsory ps+ if you want to play...
Thankfully orbis claims are nothing more than rumours at the moment... hopefully many stay that way.		2012-03-30 17:05:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414

So some of the first things we know is that it isn't backwards compatible and locks games to PSN accounts? How is that making me want to buy it?
That's actually something in my eyes makes this a possible truth based on non-denial.
Yes these are just rumors at this point, Sony will release the actual information whenever they do.
The problem is, why aren't they denying these claims. It's not as if it makes them look good, who would get excited about these changes? Either people will not care, like for the backwards compatibility, or they will dislike it.
On the one hand, not answering rumors seems like it would be a normal policy, but for something like this, you'd think they would want to nip it in the bud...that is unless there's some truth to it. Gah! Now I feel paranoid!		2012-03-30 18:31:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx
Posts: 1787

Good time I bought a bad-as laptop.2012-03-30 21:08:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

Wat.

Have I been pronouncing the word "four" wrong?

I believe you've been spelling it wrong too..... its for right?		2012-03-31 04:13:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840

About the backwards compatibility thing, if i remember, PS3 uses Cell PPE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)) as its main processor, while the rumored PS4 ( or whatever you want to call it) uses an AMD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#History_of_AMD64). I for one, could not see Sony going with an AMD or intel, when they could get a semi - custom made processor like they have been doing since the PS2, if i remember. Oh and Nintendo and Msft are doing the same, aren't they? Also, why would they want to change architectures, that would drive away devs as they would (probably) have to relearn the basics, when it would be much easier to just go develop for another platform. Sony would be insane in my logic to do this, but its their console, and if they do not care about the consumer, then I am going to get an xBox. Thats my 2 cents. 2012-03-31 04:36:00

Author:
StaticLinuxpro
Posts: 482

About the backwards compatibility thing, if i remember, PS3 uses Cell PPE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_%28microprocessor%29) as its main processor, while the rumored PS4 ( or whatever you want to call it) uses an AMD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#History_of_AMD64). I for one, could not see Sony going with an AMD or intel, when they could get a semi - custom made processor like they have been doing since the PS2, if i remember. Oh and Nintendo and Msft are doing the same, aren't they? Also, why would they want to change architectures, that would drive away devs as they would (probably) have to relearn the basics, when it would be much easier to just go develop for another platform. Sony would be insane in my logic to do this, but its their console, and if they do not care about the consumer, then I am going to get an xBox. Thats my 2 cents.
You must have missed the last five years of devs complaining about how hard the cell is to code for.		2012-03-31 09:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I think this rumor is all a Microsoft mock up to generate disappointment in the PS fanbase in advance.
And NO. I'm not joking.		2012-03-31 09:20:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

I misread this thread as "Patapon 4".
And I got SUPER excited for no reason...
And after looking at the terrible specs I feel even more silly 		2012-03-31 09:21:00

Author:
sackboy7789
Posts: 280

I think most of this is just rumors. Sony just finished with the VITA, and so i expect to wait a bit longer than next x-mas. If Sony still isn't releasing info about it yet, than that generally means that there isn't enough to say about it. Personally, I want them to hold off. The increase in power for the new Xbox isn't very high, because technology hasn't had time to expand that much further. I think it will be a waste of time to work on a new console right now. We're getting close to entering the nanotechnology stage in engineering, and if we start production of a new console now, the PS4 might be left behind. Microsoft is stupid, by the way, for making consoles that only have slightly updated graphics, and their systems are usually rushed and break easily.Many people don't remember, but the original Xbox broke a lot too. I trust Sony, but I think they're just starting to make a new system because Microsoft already announced the new Xbox.2012-03-31 16:38:00

Author:
nk827
Posts: 193

Just rumors, and I have a hard time giving a **** about rumors.2012-03-31 19:04:00

Author:
VenemoX
Posts: 197

You must have missed the last five years of devs complaining about how hard the cell is to code for.

Well I mean, the more time they have with it the more used to it they would get, but yeah they have complained...		2012-04-02 12:23:00

Author:
StaticLinuxpro
Posts: 482

Well I mean, the more time they have with it the more used to it they would get, but yeah they have complained...

But no one wants a console whose first 2 or 3 years are plagued by bad ports and lack of third-party support like the PS3 was. Not only have devs complained a lot about the programming difficulty of the PS3, they can't be arsed to make equal versions of a multiplatform game. Even with the developers getting more used to the PS3 with time, there's still plenty of inferior ports these days. Bayonetta, RDR, ME3, Skyrim, to name a few. Only Sony's first-party devs seem to be able to subdue the challenges of programming for the PS3.

They better make a dev-friendly console this time. The "it's going to get better in the long run" excuse doesn't work anymore.		2012-04-02 13:38:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

Hmm. Orbis. Sounds a helluva lot like Vorbis.
Small Gods? Anyone? Please?		2012-04-02 16:45:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


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