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LBP2 on the Playstation Vita

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Alright, I am getting the 3G/Wi-fi Playstation Vita on wednesday.

Will I be able to play LittleBigPlanet 1 or 2 on my Vita in another room via remote play?

If I can play LBP2 on my vita via remote play, will I be able to play it online with PS3 players?

Will LBP1 & LBP2 online community made levels be available in LittleBigPlanet Vita?

Will costumes from LBP1 & LBP2 be available in LittleBigPlanet Vita?


If I were to play Battlefield 3 via remote play, will I be able to play it online with and against online PS3 players?

How big is the Hardrive for the PS Vita?

Is there netflix available on the PS Vita? I have a netflix account already.


Thank you
2012-02-19 20:21:00

Author:
Nick930930
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You will not be able to play LBP1 or LBP2 levels on Vita. This counts both the story levels and the community levels. You can play online via wifi with up to 3 other players using Vita. You can also play some minigames two on the same Vita, such as a turn-by-turn board game or a air hockey game. Costumes and, if I'm right, materials (probably including stickers, decorations, music and other DLC stuff EXCEPT levels) will be transfered. Only some PS3 games will include remote play, and how it works may vary. For exemple, if you have wipEout 2048 on Vita, you can play against someone who has wipEout HD on PS3. There is no usable hard disc drive on the Vita, you must buy a memory card (size and price vary, up to 32GB for 100$, which is way too expensive, meh). Some packs come with memory cards, but remember that PSP downloaded games also work on Vita. If your PSP memory stick is 8 GB and full, you might want a 16GB vita card. Netflix will be on Vita.

For more info, look at blog.us.playstation.com
2012-02-19 20:45:00

Author:
Unknown User


What sources do you have to support your claims? I want actual evidence that LBP1 and LBP2 levels will not be accessible to the vita. Also, in a press release back in September with the head of Playstation, the guy was streaming LBP2 using the vita and playing community levels from LBP2. Playing wipeout2048 with a PS3 player is NOT an example of remote play. According to Mninska on LittleBigLand, not ALL of the stickers will be ported over from LBP2...

Thank you for the answers regarding netflix and hardrive space though.
2012-02-19 20:55:00

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Nick930930
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Yoshida presented an additional live gameplay session in which he played LittleBigPlanet 2 on a Vita while a fellow Sony representative played on the PlayStation 3 version. Together, the two cooperatively completed a King Kong-themed level which incorporated the Vita's touch functionality.
According to IGN and many other gaming sites, it is compatible. There was a display. So I'll answer the questions I can.


1. If I can play LBP2 on my vita via remote play, will I be able to play it online with PS3 players?

2. Will LBP1 & LBP2 online community made levels be available in LittleBigPlanet Vita?

3. Will costumes from LBP1 & LBP2 be available in LittleBigPlanet Vita?

1. I'm pretty sure. At the display, one person was playing LBP2 on the Vita while the other was playing it on the PS3. They were playing in the same level simultaneously. However, I'm not certain if it works only local or online.
2. That's a probably too. It showed in the trailer that the LBP2 community was available. I don't know about some of the special DLC levels, though.
3. Also in the trailer. So yeah. However, I'm not sure about the newer DLC (like the Muppets Pack).
If you want even more answers, I'd consider asking one of the people who were invited to the Game Jam. Take note that they cannot answer any questions regarding the hardware or inner workings of the Vita. Hope it helped.
2012-02-19 22:02:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
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Thanks for trying to help answer the questions though with as much information as possible. I really hope I'll be able to at least stream LBP2 and play it on my vita.2012-02-20 02:31:00

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Nick930930
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*Bump* need as much feedback as possible before I spend $300 on this thing.2012-02-20 17:45:00

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Nick930930
Posts: 878


God, don't you know how to read ? I said I know almost nothing about remote play, and that there is cross play between some games. And I said there is no cross play between LBP vita and LBP2. That doesn't mean there's no remote play of LBP2 on vita! But you will not be able to play LBP2 levels directly on the LBP vita game. Source ? PSBlog, as I said. Here are two links for you, first (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/16/ps-vita-the-ultimate-faq/), second is LBPWiki. (http://wiki.lbpcentral.com/LittleBigPlanet_Vita). And there's the official (http://www.littlebigplanet.com/en/vita/) website.2012-02-20 22:36:00

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Unknown User


I didn't specifically ask for YOU to answer again. I'm looking for as many answers as possible from DIFFERENT users. Clearly you don't have all the information that I need, some information, but not all. The remote play feature is one of the bigger selling points for me.2012-02-20 22:56:00

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Nick930930
Posts: 878


I found this that proves that a Vita is playing LBP2 WITH a PS3 player who is also playing LBP2 in the same level, utilizing Vita functions in order to get through the level together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8B-GDgJ9Xw

This is NOT LittleBigPlanet Vita game. This is LBP2...will there be LBP2 dlc that allows Vita functions to work????!?!

at the end, the terrible translator says "This kind of functionality is under development and will a...be released to developers very soooon"

So that explains that.
2012-02-20 23:28:00

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Nick930930
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According to Mninska on LittleBigLand, not ALL of the stickers will be ported over from LBP2...

It's not LBP2 for the Vita - LBP Vita is a new sperate entity in the LBP series. 99% of the assets in the game will be new ones unique to LBP Vita (With Sticker Panel and Hologram being examples of the old ones)



God, don't you know how to read ?

To be honest, you didn't properly answer his question in your first post...
I never owned a PSP, but it is my understanding that a fair share of games ended up supporting Remote Play? I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same situation on Vita, but I honestly do not know anything more than you guys




If I were to play Battlefield 3 via remote play, will I be able to play it online with and against online PS3 players?


Even if it's possible, I'm not sure you want to play online FPS via Remote Play. There is bound to be additional latency due to the added communication steps between the Vita and the PS3...
2012-02-21 09:15:00

Author:
Slaeden-Bob
Posts: 605


I never owned a PSP, but it is my understanding that a fair share of games ended up supporting Remote Play? I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same situation on Vita, but I honestly do not know anything more than you guys

nah, there are only a small handfull of psn titles that support remote play via psp, and those are currently the onle games that work via remote play via the Vita.
there are vids online of people remote playing other games on vita with a hacked ps3, but not with official ps3 firmware.
It has been stated by sony that they have no info at this time to share regarding remote play of other games via Vita.
Although they know it is a good selling point and the second analog stick is there now, and there is proof that it can work well so i dont see it taking long b4 it's supported, but it may only be added to future ps3 titles and not existing ones.
2012-02-21 09:55:00

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evret
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i don't see how it could only be added to future titles when they're advertisement clearly shows Killzone 3 and the ability to pause it on a PS3 and continue playing on the Vita. Also, the fact that the demonstration and software was created by Media Molecule in order to perform crossplatform play of LittleBigPlanet 2 shows significant evidence pointing in the direction that MM is most likely working on a new update/dlc that allows some sort of Vita functionality. Perhaps even full LBP2 remote play support.

Whether or not BF3 or Red Dead Redemption will be officially supported is not that great a concern to be honest considering I doubt it would be comfortable to play first person shooters or any shooter for that matter ont he vita. But LBP2 would be absolutely GREAT to be able to play on the go. I really hope there will be firmware updates that enable full functionality of remote play features.

It's not like the hardware restricts the vita from palying PS3 titles in anyway. Technically remote play is just using the internet to stream the image and controls of the ps3 to the vita, kinda like having a second monitor with much lower screen resolution. In retrospect, the Vita SHOULD support all PS3 titles. Whether or not they will be better on vita or PS3 depends on preference... here's hoping my assumptions are correct.
2012-02-21 15:14:00

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Nick930930
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where is this advertisement? i have only seen it in tech demos and tech demos are never a guarantee of features that will make it through to release.
it may be a case of developers having a choice to allow their existing games to use it or not, as playing their game via remote play may not live up to the experience they wanted players to have.
I'm not saying either way, just that there is no solid info available at this time.
2012-02-21 19:49:00

Author:
evret
Posts: 612


Here's the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGUlTwi7Bs
2012-02-22 03:42:00

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Nick930930
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that trailer talks about remote play briefly but says nothing about what games will support it, so i still ask where is the advertisement you mentioned earlier that shows killzone 3 using it?2012-02-22 07:06:00

Author:
evret
Posts: 612


Oh wait woops, that's the wrong video my bad.

hang on a sec:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjryOlVXbDk
2012-02-22 18:10:00

Author:
Nick930930
Posts: 878


Found this today:
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/remoteplay/about.html

It states clearly that only SOME games are compatible with remote play. Therefore NOT EVERY PS3 GAME WILL WORK WITH REMOTE PLAY.

Here's hoping LBP2 is one of those games that WILL work with remote play.
2012-02-22 23:33:00

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Nick930930
Posts: 878


I have the vita now. Remote play is virtually useless. Can't even get it to work because the Wifi is so terrible.

Remote play worked great back home, but that's no use to me at home... wanted to be able to play Crash Team Racing outside of my dorm room....fail.
2012-02-25 22:40:00

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Nick930930
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So when you are online outside so does it fail? ;/2012-02-27 16:13:00

Author:
Seveni_7
Posts: 109


cross platform play: games that can be installed on both systems and then share the stats/info through a cloud server

remote play: games that can be played via your Vita from the PS3 using the Vita as the controller and TV.

what i heard somewhere... don't ask me where, is something slightly different:

compatibility: levels from LBP2 will be compatible with the Vita. clearly you can't have MOVE games, but from what i recall, all other levels are playable. i'll try to find it. note: it hasn't been mentioned for a very long time so maybe it has been removed

edit: i'm beginning to wonder whether the source of the article i saw was confusing remote play with compatibility.

mmmmmm...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6N9fN9yt04
2012-02-28 23:47:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


Oh dear. Lots of confusion in this thread.

Let's see if I can help Slaeden-Bob out.




cross platform play: games that can be installed on both systems and then share the stats/info through a cloud serverYes, this is correct. I have also heard the term "cross platform play" refer to games that will allow PSV players to play online against/with PS3 players.




remote play: games that can be played via your Vita from the PS3 using the Vita as the controller and TV.Exactly. This core functionality has existed since 2005 when the PSP was originally released, and it has changed very little since then. The remote play features of the Vita are identical to that of the PSP.

The exact functions available in remote play are dependent on what the PS3 allows, not what a given handheld is capable of. Keep in mind that if the core functions of remote play were altered to take better advantage of what the Vita can handle, all of the PSPs in existence (of which there are millions) would cease to work with remote play. Sony is equally unlikely to develop and publish a "Vita version" of remote play, because that would over-complicate cross system functionality beyond its already too-complicated arrangement.

My point here is that remote play is extremely unlikely to change anytime soon, so don't get your hopes up. It has its limitations, yes, but I've been a fan of remote play for years and I'll continue to use it and be happy.




what i heard somewhere... don't ask me where, is something slightly different:

compatibility: levels from LBP2 will be compatible with the Vita. clearly you can't have MOVE games, but from what i recall, all other levels are playable. i'll try to find it. note: it hasn't been mentioned for a very long time so maybe it has been removedLBP2 levels will in no way be available or compatible for play on the Vita, period.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6N9fN9yt04Sorry if I come off the wrong way here, but I literally have no idea what people see in this video. It is clearly a demo of LBP Vita being played on a big screen at the Tokyo Game Show last September. Notice the touch controls and other touch-related features in the level itself. Definitely NOT LBP2!
2012-02-29 00:49:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187


well the 'mmmm's' where for the fact that the Vita WAS being played on the big screen

the compatibility article i read a while back was clearly a mistake though
2012-02-29 01:05:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


Incorrect, the video demo above is NOT from LittleBigPlanet Vita. In fact, that game wasn't even officially announced till later in the show. THe beginning of this section of the PS Vita demo showed in giant letters "LittleBigPlanet 2" and it was being played on the PS3. This video is clearly demonstrating cross platform play between a Vita and a PS3 on LittleBigPlanet 2.

Now this demo was "Specially designed by Mm" for this purpose and is still in development. Meaning that Mm either has a sneaky vita based project in the making (allowing remote/crossplay of LBP2), or they just used this to demonstrate what a vita CAN do. In which case they scrapped the concept and are concentrating completely on LBP Vita.

I have a feeling they will not allow remote play of LBP2 only because it would cause their LBP Vita game sales to go down. Why bother getting the same game when you can stream the PS3 version onto the same device.

Also, they WILL change remote play. Just because a PSP is limited to only PS1 games does NOT mean that they won't change it to be working with PSVitas. The remote play is one of their biggest selling points and they won't just let it sit like they did on the PSP. The Vita has enough buttons to play basically every PS3 game. There's a massive PS update coming on thursday so we'll see what happens then. Nice 14 hours of downtime = something good hopefully.
2012-02-29 17:01:00

Author:
Nick930930
Posts: 878


This video is clearly demonstrating cross platform play between a Vita and a PS3 on LittleBigPlanet 2.

So the 8 second clip shows touch controls. You're saying then that touch functionality will be added to LBP2? By what means, a 42" plasma touch screen? I'd think that would be a little awkward to use.

But I digress. It seems neither of us will be able to convince the other on this subject, so I'll be quiet now.
2012-02-29 18:39:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187




So the 8 second clip shows touch controls. You're saying then that touch functionality will be added to LBP2? By what means, a 42" plasma touch screen? I'd think that would be a little awkward to use.

Windows 8 on a 82'' screen (http://www.viddler.com/v/31e909f5) though feels like home. lol
2012-03-01 13:46:00

Author:
zupaton
Posts: 167




So the 8 second clip shows touch controls. You're saying then that touch functionality will be added to LBP2? By what means, a 42" plasma touch screen? I'd think that would be a little awkward to use.

But I digress. It seems neither of us will be able to convince the other on this subject, so I'll be quiet now.

i think what he is saying is that the level you see in that video was from the LBP2 version of the game but that the Vita was being used as the controller (thus enabling touch control)

this is something i've been suggesting for quite some time now. it seems obvious that Sony should allow for this given their new 'cross play' mantra. of course this would require the PS3 version of the game to have most of the functionality of the Vita version too... so i wouldn't expect those features on LBP2 any time soon... they gotta sell those Vitas
2012-03-01 13:57:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


cross platform play:
what i heard somewhere... don't ask me where, is something slightly different:

compatibility: levels from LBP2 will be compatible with the Vita. clearly you can't have MOVE games, but from what i recall, all other levels are playable. i'll try to find it. note: it hasn't been mentioned for a very long time so maybe it has been removed

edit: i'm beginning to wonder whether the source of the article i saw was confusing remote play with compatibility.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6N9fN9yt04

I seem to remember also that there was some ambiguity around this point in the LBP Vita announcement (that LBP2 levels might be playable on Vita). It's probably for the best that levels won't be compatible...it probably would have limited the LBP Vita feature set.
2012-03-01 14:12:00

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Chazprime
Posts: 587


To clear things up 100%, that demo is played on a PS3, with the vita being player twos controller 2012-03-01 20:38:00

Author:
GruntosUK
Posts: 1754


To clear things up 100%, that demo is played on a PS3, with the vita being player twos controller

On the other side, to me, that sentence initially sounded like it messes things 100% lol (no offence
On a second thought.... unless this wasn't a tech demo to convince press and lure future buyers to cash out for the console, can really make sense only as a DLC, that will make use of the Vita as a touch controller (Wii U anyone?), and released at the likes of the move pack.
Just a wiiiiiild guess....
2012-03-01 21:17:00

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zupaton
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Oh by the way I just wanted to add something to this old thread. HA!!! I was 100% right! EAT IT TAFFEY2012-09-20 20:33:00

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Nick930930
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Oh by the way I just wanted to add something to this old thread. HA!!! I was 100% right! EAT IT TAFFEYEat my locked thread. 2012-09-20 21:06:00

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Taffey
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