Archive: 19 posts

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This is totally opinion, but I think I have to agree with this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkG2KCWJvk When you buy a PSVita, you will have to buy a memory card with it to use the system. However, that lovely price tag of $250 is in my opinion, a form of a lie. The smallest memory you can buy to use your vita is 4 GB, and this cost $29.99! So the cheapest you can get a working Vita for is $280, and that's with the cheapest form of memory, that probably isn't ideal. What do you guys think?

2011-12-02 03:28:00 Author: anoken Posts: 1654

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They did the same thing when the original PSP was first released, the price of a memory stick was several times higher than the equivalent SD card, there's normally some value added bundles a few months after release.

2011-12-02 09:21:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Total opinion of mine, what do you guys think? Meh. No more of a scam than any other Sony product. The clear way to win is to wait for the 99? third-party memory card ripoffs to come out before buying a Vita, at which point the price from the Vita itself will probably have dropped too.

2011-12-02 20:10:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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The clear way to win is to wait for the 99? third-party memory card ripoffs to come out before buying a Vita, You'd think Sony would notice that is what people do and to avoid it by making stuff cheaper. in the long run you make much more money by making things cheaper for everyone as far more people will be more willing to buy it, of course you have to cover the cost of whatever it took to create the object and also make money on top of that. but somehow i don't get the feeling it costs them very much to make memory cards. *mew

2011-12-02 20:37:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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You'd think Sony would notice that is what people do and to avoid it by making stuff cheaper. in the long run you make much more money by making things cheaper for everyone as far more people will be more willing to buy it, of course you have to cover the cost of whatever it took to create the object and also make money on top of that. but somehow i don't get the feeling it costs them very much to make memory cards. *mew Sony won't be doing their pricing strategy based on just the memory card. They've got the main hardware as a loss leader and the overpriced memory cards are there to be skimmed for profit because the main hardware won't be profitable.

2011-12-02 20:55:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Sony won't be doing their pricing strategy based on just the memory card. They've got the main hardware as a loss leader and the overpriced memory cards are there to be skimmed for profit because the main hardware won't be profitable. 250$ is not that cheap. just how much does it cost them to make this stuff? and since when are they losing money from selling PS-vitas? was that not PS3s that had that problem? *mew

2011-12-02 20:59:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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250$ is not that cheap. just how much does it cost them to make this stuff? and since when are they losing money from selling PS-vitas? was that not PS3s that had that problem? *mew Its generally every consoles problem (except Nintendo ones). We'll get an estimate for how much the parts cost in a few weeks when someone does the usual tear down of the system plus there's other costs that they'll have to make back like R&D.

2011-12-02 21:08:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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surprising to hear systems cost them so much still to make. but still, they should had added little bit of built in memory. and no matter what, they are charging way to much for the cards. don't matter if they are using it as a tick to make more money back or not. *mew

2011-12-02 21:21:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Sony are too attached to our money. I understand like all businesses they need to make profit but ?30 for a 4GB memory card is ridiculous. Not to mention the huge price that the games will also cost. So if you want a Vita that you can play a game on the day you get it your paying over ?300. Aren't Sony also bringing in Online Passes? Do they not already have enough of our money? That's just my opinion though.

2011-12-02 21:25:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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That's unfortunate...probably won't buy a vita until a couple price drops.

2011-12-02 23:35:00 Author: Unknown User

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I'm surprised you guys are barely catching on to this. Of course Sony over prices their memory cards and hardwares. Consoles and handhelds are eaten up by the public when they first released, so they make sure to have a high price tag. Once the sales drop a bit, Sony then lowers down the prices on their products to persuade people to buy it because it's "cheap" (I use the quotation marks because it really isn't cheap). Also, they're releasing near Christmas, so they're aiming to make a big strategic move here. Ads will most likely show up on TV and other media, and people will want to have it because it's new and and just in time for Christmas. Add this to the fact that some retailers MAY reduce the price or throw in a good deal for the Vita and sales will probably go up. Overall, yes Sony is ripping you off here, but they're timing makes a very great cover-up for this, and retailers will make you believe like you got a good deal with the Vita on Christmas. I'm actually pretty impressed by it in some way or another.

2011-12-03 20:34:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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You'd think Sony would notice that is what people do and to avoid it by making stuff cheaper... That was mostly a joke. In reality they'll have already made the bulk of potential sales before any third-party stuff comes out - they're just taking advantage of the early adopters. If one person is prepared to pay, say, $200 for a product, and another person is only prepared to pay $100, then you make more money by first selling it for $200, waiting for a couple of months, then dropping the price to $100, than if you were to just sell it for $100 from the get-go (assuming there's no compelling competition). It's a fairly common practice, and it seems fair enough to me - there's nothing forcing you to purchase the product at all. If you think $280 is reasonable for what you get, then buy it, else don't.

2011-12-03 20:51:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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It's a fairly common practice, and it seems fair enough to me - there's nothing forcing you to purchase the product at all. If you think $280 is reasonable for what you get, then buy it, else don't. I'm not sure I'd call it fair. more like if they can, of course they'll ask for more money. but anyways. I won't be buying it until LBP-vita comes out. hopefully that'll be enough time for some things to get more cheap. *mew

2011-12-03 21:07:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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I'm not sure I'd call it fair... You might if you were a Sony shareholder. TBH, after having watched that video, the guy was kinda vague as to whether you actually need a memory card or not. From another site (http://psvitacfw.com/ps-vita-nvg-card.html)... Software for the PlayStation Vita will be distributed on NVG Cards, a new proprietary flash card format similar to the Nintendo 3DS Game Cards, rather than on Universal Media Discs (UMDs) used by the original PlayStation Portable. Vita game cards will be available in 2 GB and 4 GB sizes. 5-10% of the writeable space will be reserved for save data, patches, etc. Higher-capacity game cards are planned to be made available for future releases . ...but, of course, seeing as the video is from IGN, they have their own ulterior motive to make it sound as controversial as possible, so as to increase traffic to their site, and thus be able to make more money from advertising revenues.

2011-12-03 21:23:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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You might if you were a Sony shareholder. TBH, after having watched that video, the guy was kinda vague as to whether you actually need a memory card or not. From another site (http://psvitacfw.com/ps-vita-nvg-card.html)... You don't need a card to play all games. However, they have announced that some of the major titles, like uncharted and ridge racer, will be requiring a card (http://www.geek.com/articles/games/some-ps-vita-launch-titles-require-a-memory-card-for-saves-20111021/). You're also gonna need a card if you'd rather DL games from PSN than have physical media Much as I think the cards are overpriced, I must say I'm more annoyed by the guy in the OP's video. He had 2 points to raise (cards expensive, cards required for some games). Somehow he's managed to take that tiny piece of info, that's been in the public domain for over a month, twist it to be misleading, then repeat himself for 3 minutes and call that "news"....

2011-12-04 13:25:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Much as I think the cards are overpriced, I must say I'm more annoyed by the guy in the OP's video. He had 2 points to raise (cards expensive, cards required for some games). Somehow he's managed to take that tiny piece of info, that's been in the public domain for over a month, twist it to be misleading, then repeat himself for 3 minutes and call that "news".... Just what I was thinking. On a related note, man that guy on the video annoyed me to heck...

2011-12-04 14:57:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Somehow he's managed to take that tiny piece of info ... twist it to be misleading, then repeat himself for 3 minutes and call that "news".... Sounds like pretty much every 'story' on Fox News to me.

2011-12-04 22:39:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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He seems to be a bit of an idiot if you ask me. He acknowledged that the Xbox had a similarly over priced memory during it's release period "but you can get them cheaper now" (years after the consoles release). I remember when my first xbox died (I'm now onto my 8th Xbox - they really are possibly the worst made console in history, I think they are made of sugar glass) - I was forced to buy a memory card which cost ?10 for 218mb. It's not like expensive memory (for consoles) is a new thing. What's the betting that similarly (years after the consoles release) PSVita memory becomes cheaper? It's called "pricing strategy".... he may not care about it, but a company like Sony definately do. Or would he rather see Sony go bust - or never release the PSVita - because it would be unprofitable? If that's the quality of journalism from IGN - then I think we can safely ignore them.

2011-12-04 22:53:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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The cards are expensive, thats how it was with the PSP. Heck, before the GO came out, sony was practically forced to have new releases on the store be half-off, or they wouldn't sell squat. From some other reports, they have said that dl'ed games will cost less. Whether thats $10 less, or only $5... we don't know, from what I've seen on some PSV websites, the overall price is up to the Publishers. Katamari Damacy Vita Price : ?4,980 (64 USD, 46 EUR) for the retailer version, ?4,480 (58 USD, 42 EUR) for the download version Additional Information : The download version will be discounted to ?3,980 (51 USD, 37 EUR) until March 31, 2011. Ridge Racer Price : ?3,980 (51 USD, 37 EUR) for the retailer version, ?3,580 (46 USD, 34 EUR) for the download version Additional Information : The download version will be discounted to ?2,980 (39 USD, 28 EUR) until March 31, 2011. Uncharted : Golden Abyss Price : ?5,980 (77 USD, 56 EUR) for the retailer version, ?4,900 (63 USD, 46 EUR) for the download version Hot Shots Golf 6 : Price : This week’s issue of Dengeki PlayStation lists the price of the game but it’s still unofficial. The magazine claims that the retailer version is priced at ?4,980 (64 USD, 46 EUR). The download version will cost ?3,980 (51 USD, 37 EUR). Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Price : ?4,800 (62 USD, 45 EUR) in retail form and ?4,300 (57 USD, 40 EUR) in download form. So it seems the change in the Japanese prices are there, but we won't know how big a difference it is for the US/EU prices. After all, Japans games are usually $70/80 USD when they release, so I would imagine the common price for these games to be $40-50 Retail, and $40 and below DL Of course, this is still speculation... but seeing as the games are supposed to be ~4 gigs, if you get a 32GB card, you would save only about -$30 due to the price of the card itself... and thats assuming there is a $10 gap in DL and Retail price, and they are all ~$40 for DL. the only true use for the cards is the convenience, and for other storage. So... yeah. Sadly the cards are about the size of a microSD length-wise... so we probably won't be seeing any adapter like this (http://www.amazon.com/TOPRAM-microSD-Memory-Stick-Adapter/dp/B003C2UKJY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1323039523&sr=8-5) or this. (http://www.amazon.com/MicroSD-MicroSDHC-Adapter-Converts-Cards/dp/B001RPEJA4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1323039523&sr=8-4) Its annoying, thats for sure... and well, I can't justify it. They could have just used SD cards that support this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-based_full_disk_encryption), if this is for piracy-prevention (http://www.destructoid.com/oh-those-pricey-vita-memory-cards-are-for-security-217081.phtml)... heck, it doesn't matter anyways - the PSV is ALREADY (http://streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2011/11/ps-vita-firmware-xtractor-200.html) compromised. It doesn't use an exploit, but it gives hackers the ability to search for holes in the security. I... bluh. Atleast the Go cards dropped in price almost immediately to $20 for a 16GB card...

2011-12-04 23:17:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468

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