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I know this may not seem like a big deal to most, but i recently got a new ps3 (for a bigger hard drive) and have had to re-update all my games to play online. this is not what bugs me though, its the fact that most game developers are starting to have a habit of including non essential things, mostly DLC in these updates. this is very annoying since it vastly increases the amount of stuff you have to download just so that in the off chance you buy DLC, all you have to do is unlock it. In my opinion this type of thing should be regulated by sony and should not be allowed. Not only does it make it harder on my internet and max downloads per month (which are already ridiculous as it is), but makes updates take a lot longer. i mean, its ridiculous, it would be like if i went to buy a house, and they included an AC unit with it, but only let me turn it on if i paid extra...

what do you guys think??

2011-11-29 06:46:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

I don't know exactly how it works. But I always thought you have to download it in case someone else uses the DLC. So you can see it. Or something along those lines.. it made sense in my mind, I swear! Well in a game like LBP anyway, because it's possible to see other sackpeople wearing DLC costumes. And it's also possible to play DLC levels if the host has the pack. If you hadn't downloaded that content it just wouldn't render or the game would implode. Not sure

2011-11-29 09:17:00

Author:
OneEyedBanshee

Posts: 1370

Pretty sure it would implode. I mean... LBP isn't LBP without the DLC!

But yea. What OEB said... But... In my words. Meaning that I thought of it first and OEB stole my idea... How dare you!?

2011-11-29 09:22:00

Author:
Speedynutty68

Posts: 1614

I know this may not seem like a big deal to most, but i recently got a new ps3 (for a bigger hard drive)
You're kidding, right? You can replace the HDD yourself for much less dosh than a new console. You literally just slot it in after screwing it to a bracket.

2011-11-29 11:51:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

You're kidding, right? You can replace the HDD yourself for much less dosh than a new console. You literally just slot it in after screwing it to a bracket.
Or even better, if you still have the old PS3 and didn't format it, you can transfer all your data to the new one. Or you can use an HD-to-USB device.

Or, if you are insane like my dad, you can plug the PS3 HD on the PC as a secondary HD and backup everything to your primary HD.

2011-11-29 15:38:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

I know this may not seem like a big deal to most, but i recently got a new ps3 (for a bigger hard drive)

Sorry to break this to you, but...:

You're kidding, right? You can replace the HDD yourself for much less dosh than a new console. You literally just slot it in after screwing it to a bracket.

Or even better, if you still have the old PS3 and didn't format it, you can transfer all your data to the new one. Or you can use an HD-to-USB device.

Or, if you are insane like my dad, you can plug the PS3 HD on the PC as a secondary HD and backup everything to your primary HD.

That was pretty much your mistake, but let's continue on.

and have had to re-update all my games to play online. this is not what bugs me though, its the fact that most game developers are starting to have a habit of including non essential things, mostly DLC in these updates. this is very annoying since it vastly increases the amount of stuff you have to download just so that in the off chance you buy DLC, all you have to do is unlock it.

Well of course you need to update it. The game NEEDS to be updated so it can implement the DLC. If the game gave you an option like "You finished purchasing DLC. Do you want to update?" then the people who play the game will experience difficulties when playing online together. If someone would to own, say, the Metal Gear Solid DLC Pack for LittleBigPlanet, and they updated their game to implement it, BUT his/her friend didn't buy the DLC and didn't update it, then the person who didn't update won't be able to play with the other person because their game wont recognize the new content.

In my opinion this type of thing should be regulated by sony and should not be allowed. Not only does it make it harder on my internet and max downloads per month (which are already ridiculous as it is), but makes updates take a lot longer.

That's not Sony's fault, it's the developers'. If a developer decides they want to add more content to their game, regardless of it being free or not, then they can. The wait people need to endure for the game to update so they can have more content in their game to enjoy is the price we pay as gamers.

i mean, its ridiculous, it would be like if i went to buy a house, and they included an AC unit with it, but only let me turn it on if i paid extra...

what do you guys think??

I think that's an inaccurate analogy. Then how would the AC be paid for? Oh yeah, with electricity bills. Then there's the fact that some games include free DLC, mainly when the game wins GOTY. Overall, if you are willing to pay for DLC then good for you, enjoy the new content you've been waiting for. If not, then ignore it and let someone else enjoy their content. You complaining about something that is necessary for developers to strive and distribute content for their games in order to grow is pointless, so please, with all due respect:

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/CyberSora/dealwithit.gif

2011-11-29 23:22:00

Author:
CyberSora

Posts: 5551

On an unrelated note, that's a really nice "Deal With it" gif.

But yeah @OP, most of the times you download patches to be able to play with others using the DLC, now if you don't wanna play with anyone, just solo and no DLC you could always just not update at all, sure you may miss some patches that fix things, but since you seem to have so much trouble with any and all patches at all, it may work for you.

2011-11-29 23:44:00

Author:
Silverleon

Posts: 6707

Lol... The "Deal With It" GIF was dancing in time with my song... xD

Anyways... You did kind of screw yourself over by not transferring/backing up your stuff first...

2011-11-29 23:56:00

Author:
Speedynutty68

Posts: 1614

OK, i have read all of the replies and i was kind of surprised.... HOWEVER when i wrote this post i wasn't really thinking about LBP. obviously for LBP most updates are necessary for playing things online that was made with DLC, and/or viewing costumes etc... but for other games that i was thinking of it isn't necessary. for example, im probably a minority here but i play the mx vs atv games and in those you have to download new tracks as part of updates, even though you will NEVER play them at all unless you unlock them (even online). Also im pretty sure COD does the same with the map packs they put out, so even though you cannot play them at all or even view them on your console without paying for them, you still have to download them.

Also, i got a new ps3 instead of just a bigger hard drive because they had a special on where you get 2 free games so it was worth it... and also i don't have a portable hard drive and copying all of my stuff from my old ps3 (which was full and 120gb) would have taken a long time with a 4gb usb stick lol.

2011-11-30 02:59:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

Also, i got a new ps3 instead of just a bigger hard drive because they had a special on where you get 2 free games so it was worth it... and also i don't have a portable hard drive and copying all of my stuff from my old ps3 (which was full and 120gb) would have taken a long time with a 4gb usb stick lol.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822334016 for External

And

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MK5059GSX-NDW-NP&cat=HDD for internal

I have also seen External HD's at Costco for $50 that have enough space, easily.

You could have saved yourself about $50, because (I assume) you already had LBP2, and well... A4One isn't that good.

So... yeah.

Speaking of HDD's, I might need to upgrade my own eventually!

2011-11-30 06:38:00

Author:
theswweet

Posts: 2468

Cod does real updates when map packs come out. That's why a map pack still takes 1-1.5gb to download.

2011-11-30 08:09:00

Author:
Speedynutty68

Posts: 1614

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822334016 for External

And

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MK5059GSX-NDW-NP&cat=HDD for internal

I have also seen External HD's at Costco for $50 that have enough space, easily.

You could have saved yourself about $50, because (I assume) you already had LBP2, and well... A4One isn't that good.

So... yeah.

Speaking of HDD's, I might need to upgrade my own eventually!

Yes i already had LBP2 obvioulsy, but it was 2 new games at 60$ each, so i saved over 120 bucks this way.

Also, i just had to update BF3 and the update was almost 800Mb, which i seriously doubt is all patches and updates. considering most games are between 5 and 15gb, they would have to alter around 10% of the game which seems unlikely.

Anyways, im surprised about the general response in this thread, i mean i didn't think i would be a minority considering the fact that download usage and bandwidth costs money, but i guess no one cares... I feel i should only have to download something if i have to or intend to use it.

2011-11-30 11:36:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

Anyways, im surprised about the general response in this thread, i mean i didn't think i would be a minority considering the fact that download usage and bandwidth costs money, but i guess no one cares... I feel i should only have to download something if i have to or intend to use it.
I agree with you since I can hit my download limit very easily, not to mention fair usage.

In the case of BF3 it doesn't make sense to have to download that content, since if you haven't paid for it you wouldn't be able to access it anyway. I think the idea is to present less of an obstacle to those who buy DLC - since they make the company more money they're the priority - so their experience is they buy something and only have to download a 1MB key instead of an 800MB map pack. The more convenient it is for them to buy stuff the more likely it is they'll buy stuff.

I transfered everything to a new console recently and had to download a bunch of updates for both the console and for a few games and according to my account I used 1.5GB that day, which is the same as a movie.

2011-11-30 13:06:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

Also, i just had to update BF3 and the update was almost 800Mb, which i seriously doubt is all patches and updates.

Isn't there a free karkland dlc for certain users releasing soon.

2011-11-30 13:08:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot

Posts: 6728

I agree with you since I can hit my download limit very easily, not to mention fair usage.

In the case of BF3 it doesn't make sense to have to download that content, since if you haven't paid for it you wouldn't be able to access it anyway. I think the idea is to present less of an obstacle to those who buy DLC - since they make the company more money they're the priority - so their experience is they buy something and only have to download a 1MB key instead of an 800MB map pack. The more convenient it is for them to buy stuff the more likely it is they'll buy stuff.

I transfered everything to a new console recently and had to download a bunch of updates for both the console and for a few games and according to my account I used 1.5GB that day, which is the same as a movie.

yes i suspect that is why they make you download it, for ease of use. but it is still kind of dirty and unnecessary. i remember playing bad company 2 and having over 2gb of nothing but maps, that only "VIP" players could play, so if you where not a "VIP" player you still had to download it to play online, even if you could not access those maps...

Isn't there a free karkland dlc for certain users releasing soon.

this is the same thing, only certain players get it for free and many players may not even want it at all, but if they want to play online they still have to download it... :/

2011-12-01 06:31:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

See the main thing is, if you want to play online at all, you NEED to update for your game to ve in the same version as the server, since playing without the update would make your game incompatible, nit to mention if the update fixes some bugs, it'd allow players to keep some bugs while others have them patched, you'd think that'd be worse for the unpatched, but various games have bugs that give advantages to certain players or can be abused for breaking the game rules, like LBP2 did, not to mention the server is updated along the game, and since one can only connect to a server the same version as the game, not updating would make it impossible to to connect.

In short, its not "just to play with players online with the content" but to play online at all.
That's why you can't play online with unpatched games, your game is another version than that of the server, therefor cannot connect, and it'd make no sense to make a new server everytime a new patch is out.
There are just various reasons to why its not possible, or efficient to patch individually.

2011-12-01 08:28:00

Author:
Silverleon

Posts: 6707

2011-12-01 10:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot

Posts: 6728

It may also be to keep the game to one set of data for ease of testing.

Lets use a FPS for an example and lets say it gets 4 map packs in its lifetime all being installed after purchase and not patched in.

Base game 1 configuration.
first map pack is released now there's 2 configurations
second map pack takes us to 4 potential configurations
third map pack would bring it to 8 configurations
and finally the fourth map pack would be 16 different configurations that could exist on the user end that all have to be tested to ensure they work.

However by forcing the data on users in updates they can constantly keep the game as having a single configuration.

I understand what you are saying here but maps are not necessary to the game engine, you can add a map without altering the game engine at all they are completely separate. that is my whole point, updates should not include code that is not necessary for online play such as maps and content that many players will never use.

A few days ago they had a patch for battlefield that included 4 new maps but even though i can't play the maps (since i haven't payed for them) i still have to use up my internet bandwidth and downloading limits to download the unnecessary files that i will never use just so that i can play online. if they had made the patch and the maps seperate, the patch would have been 50 times smaller instead of almost 1gb which i have to pay for....

seriously, how can you guys be ok with paying more because they can't keep updates and content seperate??

2011-12-07 01:14:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

A few days ago they had a patch for battlefield that included 4 new maps but even though i can't play the maps (since i haven't payed for them) i still have to use up my internet bandwidth and downloading limits to download the unnecessary files that i will never use just so that i can play online. if they had made the patch and the maps seperate, the patch would have been 50 times smaller instead of almost 1gb which i have to pay for....

The update also added more destruction, physics fixes, and weapon patches outside the usual server updates. This was for the SPC since they can't update that at all without an real downloadable update. Meaning that if you didn't download it, the only way for you to be compatible with everybody else (theoretically) is for a separate server update for the weapons updates. Oh and of course you wouldn't be able to see the new destruction. You could walk (and see others) right through a wall that was really blown up but your version doesn't realize it.

I know that's not possible, that's why it was a theoretical idea.

2011-12-07 01:18:00

Author:
Speedynutty68

Posts: 1614

The update also added more destruction, physics fixes, and weapon patches outside the usual server updates. This was for the SPC since they can't update that at all without an real downloadable update. Meaning that if you didn't download it, the only way for you to be compatible with everybody else (theoretically) is for a separate server update for the weapons updates. Oh and of course you wouldn't be able to see the new destruction. You could walk (and see others) right through a wall that was really blown up but your version doesn't realize it.

I know that's not possible, that's why it was a theoretical idea.

this is getting ridiculous... WHY DOES EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD ASSUME THAT UPDATES MUST INCLUDE MAPS AND NON NECESSARY CONTENT BECAUSE THEY REALLY REALLY DON'T!!!!

EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND...

geez.... its one thing to patch a gun and an entirely different thing to add maps as a necessary download that you will never even play... internet usage costs money and they are making me spend more for nothing....

2011-12-08 00:48:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

this is getting ridiculous... WHY DOES EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD ASSUME THAT UPDATES MUST INCLUDE MAPS AND NON NECESSARY CONTENT BECAUSE THEY REALLY REALLY DON'T!!!!

EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!
EXTRA CONTENT AND UPDATES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME PATCH!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND...

geez.... its one thing to patch a gun and an entirely different thing to add maps as a necessary download that you will never even play... internet usage costs money and they are making me spend more for nothing....

This is getting ridiculous. Why can't people understand that some things need to be included in a patch and others don't? Why can't people stop complaining and deal with how the world works? Why can't people just enjoy what they have? Why can't people figure out that not everything is going to work how they want it and that if they can't accept that, they need to just get out?

LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!

THIS IS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND...

Geez... It's one thing to bring up an issue... But to keep arguing the same point over and over after being given reasons just erks me...

2011-12-09 01:10:00

Author:
Speedynutty68

Posts: 1614

This is getting ridiculous. Why can't people understand that some things need to be included in a patch and others don't? Why can't people stop complaining and deal with how the world works? Why can't people just enjoy what they have? Why can't people figure out that not everything is going to work how they want it and that if they can't accept that, they need to just get out?

LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!

THIS IS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND...

Geez... It's one thing to bring up an issue... But to keep arguing the same point over and over after being given reasons just erks me...

OK, listen jerk, adding maps and other DLC withing patches was not always done, this is a recent trend and to say that they have to it is just ridiculous. i remember back in older shooters like Cod 5 where if you wanted more maps YOU DOWNLOADED THEM SEPARATELY!!!

why do you guys think it is necessary that they do this, thats not the reason they do it, its so they don't have to deal with the extra energy it takes to separate them. i must say, im kind of dissapointed with the ignorance in this thread, it seems like most people posting in this thread either a) didn't read the original post, or b) do not understand how game patches work and are trying to come in here and be all smug and try to look cool

weak...

2011-12-09 15:42:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

All I can say is: If you have an internet connection that is good enough to play games online with no issues, then updates should be a minor problem. And if your internet connection is too slow (and I mean something like downloading 100MB in more than 30 minutes) then you probably wouldn't be able to play online either, and updates shouldn't be a problem.

They probably do that so the act of purchasing is quicker and their customers feel inclined to buy more. My internet is just beyond crappy and I have no problems with downloading updates from some server all the way over who-knows-where.

2011-12-09 15:53:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Ok you clearly don't know how this works and not willing to listen, we tried explaining it to you, you simply wanna deny it and want to feel cheated or whatever, I don't care anymore.

Don't wanna understand it?
Just want to deny what everyone says, to feel YOU are right and just wanna listen to people that say you are right, while denying everything else?
Then don't post a thread asking about it and of others view on the matter.

That's how things work, just because you THINK its not, doesn't mean it isn't, just because you don't like it, does not make the others wrong.

Now go post your "problem" over here http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/first-world-problems seems more fitting really...

2011-12-09 17:17:00

Author:
Silverleon

Posts: 6707

All I can say is: If you have an internet connection that is good enough to play games online with no issues, then updates should be a minor problem.
The problem horwitzer is writing about is more to do with bandwidth and fair usage than speed.

And if your internet connection is too slow (and I mean something like downloading 100MB in more than 30 minutes) then you probably wouldn't be able to play online either,
Online games, even shooters with tens of players, don't use nearly that amount of bandwidth per hour let alone 30 minutes...

This is getting ridiculous. Why can't people understand that some things need to be included in a patch and others don't? Why can't people stop complaining and deal with how the world works? Why can't people just enjoy what they have? Why can't people figure out that not everything is going to work how they want it and that if they can't accept that, they need to just get out?

LIFE IS HARD JUST DEAL WITH IT OR STOP COMPLAINING!
I don't get why you'd defend inefficiency? There's no reason to suck it up.

It used to be patches meant patches and individual servers ran their own content...

2011-12-09 18:46:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

The problem horwitzer is writing about is more to do with bandwidth and fair usage than speed.

Online games, even shooters with tens of players, don't use nearly that amount of bandwidth per hour let alone 30 minutes...

I don't get why you'd defend inefficiency? There's no reason to suck it up.

It used to be patches meant patches and individual servers ran their own content...

thanks for backing me up, im really getting annoyed by the ignorance in this thread, especially from Silverlean. to say i don't know what im talking about and that im just being ignorant is ignorance on your part. i think i know what im talking about and i don't know how long you have been playing games online but i got my ps3 when it came out and i know for a fact that they did not always include content in patches.

there are many games which used to (and still do) separate extra content from updates so to say that they have to include them is simply ridiculous.

here are a few examples if you are still not convinced:

Cod 4, cod 5, GTA 4, Red dead redemption, LBP1 (certain content), farcry 2, skate, warhawk, and the list goes on...

also, to say that even with poor internet it isn't an issue is insane. my download limit per month is only 50 gigs (and thats a lot where i live) so if i have to patch 5 games once a month at 2gigs per patch (which they can be sometimes), thats like 25% of my downloading limit that could have been avoided if game developers weren't so lazy.

to say that we should just "suck it up and deal with it" is crazy, if we never fight for better service and fair usage we will never get it...

2011-12-10 02:26:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

Silverlean.

Silverleon*

my download limit per month is only 50 gigs (and thats a lot where i live) so if i have to patch 5 games once a month at 2gigs per patch (which they can be sometimes), thats like 25% of my downloading limit that could have been avoided if game developers weren't so lazy.

Since when is 1/5 25%?
50gb = Total.
2gb x 5 patches = 10gb.
10/50 reduces to 1/5. Or 10%.

And it's not inefficiency as you say, Ayneh. I would rather download a low memory key than a high memory add-on. This is from a personal view though. But when I sit down and there's a large game update, I let it download while I'm doing something else. I'll see there's a download and go do some procrastinated homework or something. But for me, it's more efficient than not. And I think I speak for all us 'addicted-to-video-game' high schoolers.

Jerk

Hey, at least I listen and acknowledge that this is how things work. And I'm not a jerk. I'm just fed up after seeing this repeatedly on so many different forums. It's such a simple thing that I don't get why people diss it so much.

2011-12-10 03:17:00

Author:
Speedynutty68

Posts: 1614

And it's not inefficiency as you say, Ayneh. I would rather download a low memory key than a high memory add-on. This is from a personal view though. But when I sit down and there's a large game update, I let it download while I'm doing something else. I'll see there's a download and go do some procrastinated homework or something. But for me, it's more efficient than not.
I appreciate that. What you're describing is convenience rather than efficiency, though.

It isn't an efficient use of your bandwidth (or your neighbours connection speed who you affect) if you're downloading something you don't intend to, or can't, use.

2011-12-10 15:16:00

Author:
Ayneh

Posts: 2454

2011-12-10 15:46:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot

Posts: 6728

Might also be a cost cutting exercise on QA/Certification, by bundling the dlc in with the patch they'll only have to pay Sony/Microsoft for one set of final testing.

Also Sony charge 16 cents per gb on stuff downloaded from the store http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/03/20/sony-now-charging-publishers-for-ps3-downloadable-content/ putting the dlc in with the patch may be a way of avoiding those fees.

They usually bundle this files with updates in games like LBP that make other users view the content but not use it until they buy it (which is just a key that is downloaded), other games like Fallout that are purely single player have all their content online and must be entirely downloaded independently from the updates (which are just patches), also horwitzer, calm down no need for rude answers

2011-12-10 17:12:00

Author:
Ragnarok

Posts: 898

They usually bundle this files with updates in games like LBP that make other users view the content but not use it until they buy it (which is just a key that is downloaded), other games like Fallout that are purely single player have all their content online and must be entirely downloaded independently from the updates (which are just patches), also horwitzer, calm down no need for rude answers

sorry but i got kind of irritated lol...

and also, speednutty68 im sorry but 10gb out of 50gd does not reduce to 10%

10/50 = 1/5 = 0.20 = 20% which is a significant chunk if half of it is not necessary.

2011-12-14 00:06:00

Author:
horwitzer

Posts: 255

If you have PS Plus you could use the auto update feature during the night, Saving having to do it every time you boot up the game

Mine download during the night, Its very handy

2011-12-14 00:14:00

Author:
IrishSackBoy

Posts: 50

If you have PS Plus you could use the auto update feature during the night, Saving having to do it every time you boot up the game

Mine download during the night, Its very handy

It helps if you read the thread before you jump in with a reply.

2011-12-14 00:21:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot

Posts: 6728

It helps if you read the thread before you jump in with a reply.

Did read it :/

He does mention PS3 updates so thats why I suggested/mentioned it thats all

2011-12-14 00:29:00

Author:
IrishSackBoy

Posts: 50

Did read it :/

He does mention PS3 updates so thats why I suggested/mentioned it thats all

Yes i know you can have it auto update (which is a good feature), but i am more annoyed by the fact that game developers are starting to include non necessary content such as maps and missions as patches and not seperate downloads. games such as BFBC2 for example make you download ALL of the extra maps as a patch (which you need to download to play online) even if you do not and cannot play those extra maps.

that is whats annoying, that they are forcing you do download extra stuff just so that they don't have to separate it and have you download it seperately (keep in mind most of these things such as extra maps many players will not even buy). when internet usage (atleast where i live) is fairly expensive and slow with low downloading limits it gets annoying, and even expensive.

if 5 games come out with 2gb worth of DLC that they force you to download (in the form of a patch that you need to get to play online) then it adds up pretty quick, especially when your downloading limit is only 50gb and downloading speed is only 10mb/s.

anyways, im kind of starting to ramble on in this thread, i just hope developers change this trend in the future because it affects all gamers negatively, especially those with poor internet service. for example i live in canada and there is no such thing as unlimited downloading, you litterally cannot get it anywhere and the biggest plan you can get is only like 120gb per month and its like over 100$/month....

...so yeah... :/

2011-12-14 04:50:00

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