Archive: 19 posts

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you all know about them. We see so many people asking for Hearts for Hearts. Yet, I don't think I fully understand their concept. they are supposed to be given to a level which you thoroughly enjoyed. Or a creator with many great levels. Yet, If this is the case, why H4H? Unless I am mistaken, you are not rewarded for getting a set number of Hearts? You are frowned upon if you do H4H...so why do they do this? I for one do not care about creator hearts. I also don't care about level hearts.I do however enjoy seeing nice comments, and reviews. I lso like the feeling of accomplishment when I've created a level that I (And most likely I alone) Am Proud to have created! So if you please would you either state your views on hearts, and what you strive to achieve when you create a level.

2011-11-02 15:34:00 Author: Valeview Posts: 1581

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Unless I am mistaken, you are not rewarded for getting a set number of Hearts? There are trophies for them in LBP1 and pins for them in LBP2.

2011-11-02 15:41:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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And how many would be required to recieve that pin then?^^

2011-11-02 15:48:00 Author: Valeview Posts: 1581

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From the wiki: People Love you! (3, 75) You have been "Hearted" by 3 unique players. Level "Hearted" by (5, 50) Get a level you have published Hearted by 5 unique players. Total Hearts (100) All of your levels were hearted by 100 unique players combined. I think some of the pins have different ribbons at each increment or something. I don't know what the maximum is.

2011-11-02 16:00:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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H4Hing isn't fair. People work their butt off trying to get them because of their amazing levels meanwhile people can just ask for them, and GET THEM! It isn't fair. That's why they are frowned upon and they deserve to be frowned upon. My brother was an H4Her until I found out and I lectured him and he finally stopped. My view on hearts is that they should be awarded by how great of a creator you are, not because you want them.

2011-11-03 02:48:00 Author: Wolffy123 Posts: 406

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I heart levels that I know I'll want to play again, and/or I want to recommend to other players. I heart other players if they make multiple levels that I've hearted, or if they're someone I've met in person and got on with. I'm against H4H because I think it takes all the meaning out of hearts. I don't really appreciate hearts when they come from someone who never even bothered to try my levels. I really enjoy getting a heart from someone who played a bunch of my levels.

2011-11-04 03:32:00 Author: Pookachoo Posts: 838

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The sad part of H4H is...what do you even get for "earning" these pins? Pins do no make you a better player. Pins do not make you a better creator. Pins do not make your levels better or more popular. I think maybe you get a crown of some sort if you collect them all? If you want to "collect them all", play Pokemon!

2011-11-04 18:31:00 Author: Brannayen Posts: 438

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Nah, to get the Crown, you must win a competition on a known LBP website (such as here or on LBPlanetarium) or get chosen by the creators of the game themselves. It gives you a crown and the Royalty pin. The crown is there to show that you are a good creator/player. People respect those with crowns. You can choose up to 3 pins to place on your online profile for others to see. So if the user has the pin "Master of the Internets", "Royalty" and "Winner of the LBPC contest", well I guess he's a true LBP hero. It will make you want to try the level. Hearts also make the level easier to find in the cool levels or other pages. And people want to be famous. So they ask for hearts, and since LBP attracts two groups of players (mature players/creators and immature kids who publish empty levels). Because of that, the cool pages on LBP1 are full of H4H empty or bad levels. Well, it was a lot worse just before LBP2 was out, because everyone wanted to get platinum before LBP2. I only need 3 trophies to get it, and they are all about having plays and hearts. My friend made one good level and he has 200 hearts on it. Or more. It depends on the popularity of the theme. He made a Wipeout level when the water pack came out. A system is only good when the vast majority agrees to it. LBP's system doesn't work at all because of this. I laughed the other day when a friend of mine hit me cause he saw I hearted my own levels. I don't systematically heart myself, I only do it when the result is as great as I expected, when I'm proud. I heart all my friends except if they are immature (but I usually delete them from my friends when that happens) or if they are bad creators. Seriously, don't heart your own level if it is bad, because people will know you hearted it yourself. And 1/2 people think self-hearting is bad. Lol, I'd say 1/2 people H4H, and it's not the same half !

2011-11-05 03:48:00 Author: Unknown User

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Yeah, I also heart my own levels that I'm proud of. I'm not doing to make it look like I have more hearts, but as Rupaul says: If you can't love yourself, how the heck are you gonna love somebody else?

2011-11-05 19:22:00 Author: Pookachoo Posts: 838

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I consider hearts more of a "bookmarking" mechanic than a way to reward a player. I enjoy and adore many levels but only those that have that "oh, I'm so going to want to replay this stuff in the future" feel get hearts from me. Only kids do H4H by the way, so there's hardly any logic or reason behind it. They see other kids bragging about their hearts and they unconsciously feel like their status in the community will be inferior if they don't have a big number of hearts they can show off. But creating good levels is too much effort for them so they do it the easy, meaningless way. One of the first impressions newbies get when introduced to the vast community is that a person with many hearts is more valued as a member than a person who created good levels. Because many players are oblivious kids and because the ratio of H4Hers to fair players is so big, the newbies just don't get that H4H is frowned upon and that's why H4H never gets any less popular even though comparing creators based on their hearts is as stupid and juvenile as boys comparing the size of their genitals.

2011-11-05 19:49:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I found It rather Enjoyable getting all of your views on hearts. (Side-Note of unimportance: i've been Un-hearted since i posted the thread! coincidence? Probably)

2011-11-05 19:58:00 Author: Valeview Posts: 1581

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I totally agree with Valeview. Anyway, sometimes people enjoy levels and forget to heart... maybe they just don't know that hearts exist... or maybe not... I don't know. Some of the people that tried my Geometry Wars Beta said: "I really enjoyed this level" but didn't heart it.

2011-11-06 01:19:00 Author: SebasSBM Posts: 159

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Hey, don't mix up YAYs and <3s Yays are or levels you like, hearts are for levels you want to share with others. The other day I looked at my heart list, came back in it and replayed almost all of them (a good day lol) and unhearted loads of them, because loads of them were bad and at the time, I didn't know what were great levels (I didn't know comphermc, duh) Hearts are indeed bookmarks. See, my level got 100 plays, 30 yays and around 20 hearts. It's a good Yay-heart ratio, so I guess my level has a very precise public. Normal, it's a tutorial about logic. Oh, and a H4Her bood it. Idiot. Nah, just kidding.

2011-11-06 17:35:00 Author: Unknown User

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It seems as though several people compare levels to each other on the same generic scale. Should a epic level made by a group of Mm picks be compared to a level that someone made entirely by themselves? Should a music gallery be compared to a bomb survival level? Should a top down level be compared to a costume gallery? Should a sophisticated logical level be compared to an artistic casual platformer? To only heart levels you feel are absolutely amazing or want to play again would mean you rarely heart levels and judge them on the above generic "level" scale. People don't seem to do research and find that several great levels were made by groups, they will only heart the creator of the published level. Without giving any credit to the others that made it heart worthy and amazing. This seems to happen to so many great music writers for levels unfortunately as well as a few great logicians. A levels current status when played seems to have an interesting factor in judging the level as well. As much as people would deny, it seems as though the tendency to heart a popular level is actually higher than if it were not. I think at times people feel that they almost must agree, since the level is well praised and well known or the praise helps build a better opinion on the level before or after playing it. In the case of bookmarking, it is essentially redundant to heart a creator and their multiple levels that the player enjoyed since it is several "bookmarks" to the same "page" . It is also essentially redundant to heart Mm picked levels because they have their own system of "bookmarking" called the Mm picks filter as well as even your friends since they also have their own filter in "my friends". The interface that LBP2 uses is way too good to even need to bookmark anything, considering every comment or review is a link and the abundance of filters. I'm not in any way discouraging hearting Mm picks or your friends of course, just explaining how easy it is to find creators and levels without even needing your hearted lists. It is strange that everyone sees creator hearts as creator hearts. They are actually called "player hearts" on LBP.me O.o I actually see it a neither and say "hearted people" I will heart any level I really like but not the person unless they are a active and positive member of the community. As a player, hearted lists are the 2nd best filter in quality levels. I don't know about anyone else but I find about 90% of the levels I play from hearted lists. They are usually up to date and include new Mm picks, the best of cool pages. and maybe some great gems. So it's several mini filters of all kinds of stuff that everyone has. As a creator, having hearts is very important in deciding how much exposure you will get, where your levels show up on cool pages and how long stay after they are initially published, as well as the frequency of plays on your levels. Also pins are just really fun to collect since there are so many rare ones and several have to be given as a reward. There are some that have only been given a handfull of times and it's cool that you can show a few of your achievements. I personally want Awesome Sauce! lol.

2011-11-07 06:27:00 Author: Dortr Posts: 548

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Hey, don't mix up YAYs and <3s Yays are or levels you like, hearts are for levels you want to share with others. The other day I looked at my heart list, came back in it and replayed almost all of them (a good day lol) and unhearted loads of them, because loads of them were bad and at the time, I didn't know what were great levels (I didn't know comphermc, duh) Hearts are indeed bookmarks. See, my level got 100 plays, 30 yays and around 20 hearts. It's a good Yay-heart ratio, so I guess my level has a very precise public. Normal, it's a tutorial about logic. Oh, and a H4Her bood it. Idiot. Nah, just kidding. Nice reply. I already knew that about hearts anyway. To only heart levels you feel are absolutely amazing or want to play again would mean you rarely heart levels and judge them on the above generic "level" scale. I've got an huge list of hearted levels. Most of them are levels that I really enjoyed, or levels that I consider that they are a great work. So, I don't heart so rarely. Just check it out. Anyway, I should unheart some of them to tidy up the whole list. People don't seem to do research and find that several great levels were made by groups, they will only heart the creator of the published level. Without giving any credit to the others that made it heart worthy and amazing. This seems to happen to so many great music writers for levels unfortunately as well as a few great logicians. I totally agree at this point. Until now, I've made all my levels by myself. But maybe I'd like to make joint projects with someone, and, of course, I'd give credit to those that participated on it. It would be hard anyway because my internet connection sucks! Great reflection at all. I don't regrait to have participated in this thread.

2011-11-07 07:02:00 Author: SebasSBM Posts: 159

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Self hearting is healthy and I promote self hearting. I left LbP 1 cause it was nothing but bombs sharks and check out my mansion.

2011-11-15 22:01:00 Author: L-I-M-I Posts: 611

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When I first started playing LBP a couple of months ago, and after finishing the story levels, decided to go online. I hadn't been on a forum and had no idea what H4H was, but saw it everywhere. I also picked some Levels to try by choosing "most hearted", thinking that they'd be really great levels. How wrong I was! They were rubbish, plus I ended up with awful stuff in the community objects as well. I basically heart levels I want to play again, or ones I think my kids would enjoy. If I see H4H in the description I won't even play the level. Amazes me how my one and only level has one play, and only because some random person joined me, and I actually made an effort with my level, yet these kids make rubbish levels and get tons of plays solely because it says H4H.

2011-11-15 23:10:00 Author: Unknown User

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Unfortunately, most level hearts and creator hearts come mostly from exposure. If you are lucky enough to get your level on Cool Pages, you will get level hearts and creator hearts, no matter what. If someone has tons of creator hearts, its most likely because they had a few successful runs on Cool Pages. I've been quite lucky in LBP2, and had three levels go to page 1, and two of those went to the number one spot. But I know what you are thinking, "But CYMBOL, sure you were on cool pages, but certainly you received those creator hearts for being one of the best creators ever!". Haha, its fun to think like that, until you see all the spammers, with their copied junk levels getting plenty of creator hearts too. In fact, most of those spammers have tens of thousands more creator hearts then some of the biggest creators out there. It can also be tempting to let reviews give you a big head. I had someone leave a review, Best level I've ever played! But I see those same reviews on copied levels too. Sooo... Haha. Does that mean that all level and creator hearts aren't worthy? Of course not, but a cool page run tends to hyper inflate them. So, where does that leave us? Well, a high heart count means that they had Cool Pages success, or an MM Pick. Do they deserve that many? Who knows. Only thing that really matters is what you think of that creator. I do want to point one thing out to everyone with a small amount of creator hearts, or those who feel thiers should be higher. If you've never been lucky and had your level hit Cool Pages, you should be proud of the hearts you have. They weren't given by some kid who doesn't know the difference between real creativity and a copied level, they were given ny someone who found your level one day, and give your level or you a heart out of respect for your work. Those hearts and great reviews you get when your not in the Cool pages... those are honest and earned every time and you should be proud of every single one of them.

2011-11-15 23:37:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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I use them as favorite bookmark

2011-11-21 22:17:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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