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Don't you just fancy those techy acronyms? Umm.. another cute name I was thought of was M.I.S.T.E.R. (Music Instrument Sequencer Thermo Expence Reference) lol Well, i was bored last night and, beside making fancy techy names, I sat down and wrote what thermo a music instrument spends inside the music sequencer, since you can't put it outside. Ok you can, but you won't have any outcome. Values are approximate and represent bars of thermo out of the 16 maximum it has, just in case you haven’t already counted. Actually also approximate is the way they added to thermo so, this chart is not useful to really count on simple addition math’s to predict what exactly thermo your instruments will spend, but rather just having a rough idea about it. There goes: Honkey Tonk piano 5 Piano 5 8bit drum kit 2 Acoustic kit 5 Bayion kit 1 2 Beatbox kit 1 3 Beatbox kit 2 1,5 Synth kit 1 3,5 Synth percussion kit 1 Bass guitar 0,5 Col legno* 0,5 Double bass pizzicato* 0,5 Ektara* 1 Electric guitar muted 0 Electric guitar distorted 0 Electric guitar powerchords 0,5 Harp 0,5 Koto* 1 Nylon string guitar* 2 Strings legato* 2 Strings pizzicato* 1 Bayion Guildford 4,5 Bayion Kyoto 5 Record static 1 Bayion bass 1 2,5 Bayion bass 2 2,5 Bayion shiny 2,5 Bayion tinkle 2,5 Bell 0 E-piano 0 Ghost 0 Harpsichord 0 Mime artist 1 Mosquito 0 Noise 1 Pulse wave 0 Ray gun 1 Robot 0 Saw wave 0 Sine wave 0 Space piano 5 Square wave 0 Strings 0 Tennis 0 Triangle wave 0 Woodpecker 0 Worm 0 Glass harmonica* 3 Glocken spiel 0 Kalimba* 1 Marimba* 0 Music box* 1 Tubular bells* 2 Vibraphone* 0 Ahhh’s * 2 Bassoon* 0,5 Brass* 2 Clarinet* 0,5 Concertina 0 *References to Move pack instruments in case you could’t find them on your popit. It’s worth noting, if not completely useless at all because why on earth someone will use them all at once, the behavior of the 3 Piano instruments, Piano, Honkey tonk and Space piano. Although those 3 instruments take up 5 bars of thermo each, putting them all in an empty sequencer won’t raise the thermo a single inch, umm.. no, that’s too much, lets say a single millimeter above 5! Possibly this happens because those instruments use the same samples and the game applies either some DSP effect (chorus?) or amplifying or filter envelope (ADSR?) on them independently to just vary the sound. Many instruments use zero thermo and that should be because they either use very,very,very,very (ok enough) short samples (square wave, saw wave, sine wave etc), or use playstations DSP-Synth or whatever engine, some sounds really sound like FM synthesis anyway (Worm, Woodpecker, tennis etc.) or the PS3’s built in General Midi instruments. I think every machine those days that respects itself, though not the musicians, from your very powerful, gaming dedicated, souped up, desktop PC, to the tabletop wired home phone, has a GM set just in case something goes wrong. Finally as previously said somewhere else on LBPC, any other LBP related forum or just the internet, each instrument uses a single or multiple samples that are either short or lengthy enough to produce different impact on thermo. Well its not a tutorial, just a reference. I don’t think this chart will be really helpful to many, especially musicians. Ohh, and I am not a musician. UPDATE: Mmm.. i may look a little paranoid lol but for the few interested i uploaded a downloadable 2 page pdf on scribd, ordered in both appearance in popit and ascending thermo consumption. Downloadable pdf version (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/70387628?access_key=key-p0aigicjo44vtasxne0) PS: In the fourth line of the web preview, the text format looks a character off but the downloaded pdf is ok. Just press the Download button on the bottom.

2011-10-21 12:02:00 Author: zupaton Posts: 167

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Explained and presented well. Very helpful. Thanks

2011-10-21 18:18:00 Author: DaSpoony Posts: 191

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this could be useful i suppose, if you were planning out a song on paper before going on LBP, but the way i make music is basically just experimentation most of the time, and thermo is rarely an issue in those situations. thanks for taking the time to do this though, im sure people will find this useful

2011-10-24 20:45:00 Author: Skalio- Posts: 920

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.... im sure people will find this useful Well... i dont. lol Glad if helped. No problem. Wasn't much of hassle. Just wrote on paper and type in word. But, if anyone finds any strange conflicts, like pianos behavior, please post to let others know.

2011-10-24 22:34:00 Author: zupaton Posts: 167

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@ zupaton...thanks for the MISTER Mister.

2011-10-24 23:18:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Possibly useful to know. Certainly interesting to note.

2011-10-25 02:19:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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@ zupaton...thanks for the MISTER Mister. You just broke my wings, take them.

2011-10-26 06:30:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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@ Mr_Fusion...you are Mr. Mr...which no one can deny.

2011-10-26 14:03:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Thank you so much for this, Mr_Fusion! This will become very useful. =)

2011-10-26 15:08:00 Author: Rapidkirby3k Posts: 121

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You break my wings...err.. i mean my heart... lol j/k

2011-10-26 16:20:00 Author: zupaton Posts: 167

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