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Opaque hologram and false walls

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Opaque hologram is simply hologram that you can't see through. False wall is a material that is non-solid,but it can take on the appearance of any material you already have.useful for secrets or traps.2011-10-18 00:25:00

Author:
Marioparty7
Posts: 14


you haven't seen/ gotten the move pack have you? :/2011-10-18 01:32:00

Author:
a_mailbox
Posts: 416


no,i haven't2011-10-18 02:28:00

Author:
Marioparty7
Posts: 14


well then:

sticker panel is basicly all you need to make all those things
2011-10-18 02:46:00

Author:
a_mailbox
Posts: 416


yep you are describing the sticker panel there2011-10-18 16:44:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


The "false wall" material you described is pretty much identical to the walk-through-walls material. To obtain some, destroy a material using a destroyer/creature brain set to the "Fall Apart" animation, then copy the material before it disappears. Only sackpeople and sackbots can go through it, but from what you said about it, it sounds like that's what you want it for.2011-10-18 20:59:00

Author:
Blue Helmet
Posts: 306


I like this idea!2011-10-21 01:57:00

Author:
zzmorg82
Posts: 948


Yer get the Move pack, the levels are amazing and the new tools are sooo helpfull2011-10-22 01:08:00

Author:
artise
Posts: 353


For everybody who is on about the move pack, 9.99 for false walls is not worth it. The pack is worthless without the already $100 move set up, which wastes one of your two USB ports.

As much as I'd love to have access to some of the stuff it offers, it is over priced and a blatant scam.

Thank you and good night.
2011-10-24 07:09:00

Author:
Eternal_Rise
Posts: 113


i bought mine second hand for ?25. that was including the PSEye. and you really don't just buy the MOVE pack for false walls.

if you are happy with what you have already got then great, but why try and persuade others not the buy the MOVE? i find that disingenuous
2011-10-25 05:20:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


For everybody who is on about the move pack, 9.99 for false walls is not worth it. The pack is worthless without the already $100 move set up, which wastes one of your two USB ports.

As much as I'd love to have access to some of the stuff it offers, it is over priced and a blatant scam.

Thank you and good night.

If you already have move, the total cost of the pack is $9.99. The pack is worth $9.99.
2011-10-25 06:08:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419


Who ever said I was happy with what I've got. This pack is little more than the creator pack 1 with some levels tossed in to justify an unreasonable price. Look at the real DLC. Do you see them at 9.99 for the same thing (Above and beyond the tools they use to scam your 9.99) No. if it was the same price as the other packs then I'd be fine with it, and if it could be played sans move, I would be fine, but it isn't

Move functionality could have been added the same way the two+ player challenges are in the real story levels. Also, with not having to pay for additional rights.. there is no reason it even costs as much as the real DLCs.

I'm not saying don't buy the move, though for about the same price you can pick up a Wii (you know, what our mo-cap stick and wasted USB port camera are poorly imitating). I am simply saying, Don't wast $100 on the device just for a pack you're already going to have to over pay for.

Also, my voicing my opinion that it is a negative is no worse than your attempts to market it to others. Opposite sides of the same coin man.


If you already have move, the total cost of the pack is $9.99. The pack is worth $9.99.Xero.. pleas, go on the PS store, take a look at the DLC they actually have to pay royalties on. You're paying 9.99 for a set of tools that should have already been in n release date and a typical level pack that is little more than the FREE prehistoric moves with the new tools tossed in. 9.99 is not justifiable. unless of course you can think of something viable that drives this price hike?
2011-10-25 06:09:00

Author:
Eternal_Rise
Posts: 113


Xero.. pleas, go on the PS store, take a look at the DLC they actually have to pay royalties on. You're paying 9.99 for a set of tools that should have already been in n release date and a typical level pack that is little more than the FREE prehistoric moves with the new tools tossed in. 9.99 is not justifiable. unless of course you can think of something viable that drives this price hike?

The move pack takes time to develop. Who develops it? The people who work at Mm, of course. And those people need to make a living. The people are paid to develop content, and so the content must therefore have a price.

True, the tools could have been released with the game, but you logic is flawed. If you play Call of Duty or Battlefield (or any other game with map packs), by your logic you could easily say "the maps should've been included on release! We shouldn't have to pay for them!! OMGWTFBBQ".

I would also like to add that if you have a single creative bone in your body, then the move pack tools are an extremely valuable asset. Hell, I'd go as far as to say I'd spend $9.99 just for the sticker panel, but I get move paint, allowing transparent stickers (which has never been possible before without an extremely rare and hard to reproduce glitch), tons of gameplay tools to utilize move functionality, and a new story mode to boot (which you can't even compare to the crappy Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves levels )?

Sign me up.

It's cool if you're not a huge fan of the Move pack, that's your opinion... but most folks I've come across would agree with me when I say "The move pack is the best DLC ever released for LBP2". Mm could've gotten away with charging even more for it...because people (like me) would've still bought it.
2011-10-25 06:37:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419


Responding in order of your statements;

No, your argument is not valid. Are you honestly so stupid as to think that the other DLCs just magically make themselves? Same people doing that. Why can defenders never field a good argument.. Oh yeah.. that's right, because there is nothing worth defending.

Yes, The BS Map packs and such released within months of the game's original release (Or is more often, "DLC" that is already on disk and thus you have already paid for) Needs to end.

You are confusing "having a single creative bone in your body" with "Being too lazy to look for work arounds" and still listing nothing that justifies the price hike.

And finally, This is likely because you ignore anyone with a shred of common sense and instead lurk in the defender's communities, Screaming how EA, gods of the pay pass, are the best thing ever and how Capcom can do no wrong. (Yes, it is the exact same as defending the price of this pack.)

People like you are just fuel for the fire that is slowly destroying the real gaming community. Defending lazy programmers and greedy corporations. Don't you puppets ever wish you could be real boys (or girls)

Just to clarify a little, I am not anti-paid-DLC if the DLC is on the scale of expansion packs. This does not include Map packs for online play, Skins, DLC only weapons or other such nonsensical things that do not extend the longevity of a game, but rather are solely purposed as money grabs. Also, if it takes you less than 4 months to develop, it should likely have been a part of the base release.
2011-10-25 09:15:00

Author:
Eternal_Rise
Posts: 113


Responding in order of your statements;

No, your argument is not valid. Are you honestly so stupid as to think that the other DLCs just magically make themselves? Same people doing that. Why can defenders never field a good argument.. Oh yeah.. that's right, because there is nothing worth defending.Funny, I don't recall every saying other DLCs magically appeared. Are you so naive as to think that I could be so ignorant?

And make no mistake, questioning my intelligence will be the worst mistake you could ever make.


Yes, The BS Map packs and such released within months of the game's original release (Or is more often, "DLC" that is already on disk and thus you have already paid for) Needs to end.Even though they could make a map pack within that period of time? In this particular case, they have two options; they could delay the game a few months just to include these maps in the release of the game (ticking off a lot of people in the process), or they could release the game on time, then work on a map pack after.

You also seem to ignore the fact that DLC takes up space. That's right kiddies, data requires storage space! 3 GB of maps might not even fit on the disc, hence the need for DLC.


You are confusing "having a single creative bone in your body" with "Being too lazy to look for work arounds" and still listing nothing that justifies the price hike.
So you're saying if you're not lazy, you can use Move with LBP without the pack? Good luck with that. The Move pack allows you to do things you could never find a work around for. I challenge you to make a sackbot that responds to movement gestures, without Move. The closest thing you could do would be to try and utilize the Dualshock's Sixaxis... and that in itself is a joke.


And finally, This is likely because you ignore anyone with a shred of common sense and instead lurk in the defender's communities, Screaming how EA, gods of the pay pass, are the best thing ever and how Capcom can do no wrong. (Yes, it is the exact same as defending the price of this pack.)

People like you are just fuel for the fire that is slowly destroying the real gaming community. Defending lazy programmers and greedy corporations. Don't you puppets ever wish you could be real boys (or girls)My opinion is my own, and is a product of an open mind. I do not blindly defend anything. If I'm defending something, I have a valid reason. Maybe you should open your mind and stop hating on everything so blindly.

I'm not here to start an argument with you. I post valid points an opinions only. If you can't respect that, and post without trying to offend people or throwing around countless blind assumptions as you've already proved you can, then you shouldn't post at all.

/thread
2011-10-25 21:08:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419


Actually, I was simply responding to what you blatantly implied. Your attempt to defend it with such an empty and pointless statement, would seem to indicate the lack of intelligence common among the general populace. I stand corrected on your intelligence, however, I do not feel that any change ought to be made to the statement of your blind defending and sheepism. (yes, I know that is not technically a legitimate term, it is, however, fitting.)

As for the space required for said packs. Very few, if any, PS3 games are released with anything resembling their full space used. I regret to inform you that you have been duped into thinking that an Xbox is a PS3. Beyond this, That does not justify any additional cost for content which should have been on the disk. A download? perhaps.

Now, As you are likely going to blast your defense hole about server space for the content, Should it not be the responsibility of the corporation, who is at fault for the lack of inclusion of the content in the initial release of the product? Should it not be their responsibility to release the complete product?

Additionally, if the content is on disk and must be unlocked via paying on top of additional pricing, that could, logically, be construed as data theft, as the disk is bought with the understanding that it is a licensing of all content there within. Thus, by withholding a portion of the product, for said ransom, they are in fact committing theft.

I do not blindly hate good sir/madame, I simply bring forth the truth, something very few people have the courage to do in this capitalist state of North America. Sure, there are issues which on the grand scale are of far greater importance, However, as far as the gaming community is concerned, this is a prime concern.

In closing, Though you would no doubt reject the whole bit of this, I am simply presenting data and observations in a blunt and unfiltered manner. It will, undoubtedly come across as opinion, However, these are factual observations and legitimate points strong in basis, if not in backing and directly presented data.
2011-10-26 07:46:00

Author:
Eternal_Rise
Posts: 113


Actually, I was simply responding to what you blatantly implied. Your attempt to defend it with such an empty and pointless statement, would seem to indicate the lack of intelligence common among the general populace. I stand corrected on your intelligence, however, I do not feel that any change ought to be made to the statement of your blind defending and sheepism. (yes, I know that is not technically a legitimate term, it is, however, fitting.)Like I said; if you can't respond intelligently and without attempting to insult others, get out. I voiced my opinion. You forced yours upon others and foolishly mistook it for facts. All you've given is opinions. Your opinions are not fact. They are not law. Get over yourself. I have never followed anything blindly, and assuming otherwise (and that's exactly what you're doing), shows a lack of intelligence common among the general populace.


As for the space required for said packs. Very few, if any, PS3 games are released with anything resembling their full space used. I regret to inform you that you have been duped into thinking that an Xbox is a PS3. Beyond this, That does not justify any additional cost for content which should have been on the disk. A download? perhaps.
And I regret to inform you that you don't know the first thing about me. Don't tell me what I've been "duped" into thinking. I am well educated in the topics I choose to speak freely of.


Now, As you are likely going to blast your defense hole about server space for the content, Should it not be the responsibility of the corporation, who is at fault for the lack of inclusion of the content in the initial release of the product? Should it not be their responsibility to release the complete product?

You completely avoided my point on unhappy fans. If you lose fans, you lose sales. Delaying a game just to make some whiny kids like you happy will lose the company money.


Additionally, if the content is on disk and must be unlocked via paying on top of additional pricing, that could, logically, be construed as data theft, as the disk is bought with the understanding that it is a licensing of all content there within. Thus, by withholding a portion of the product, for said ransom, they are in fact committing theft.
They're developing a product, building it from the ground up, and charging a fee accordingly. They have the right to charge for their product however they see fit. You're a fool if you think that's theft. There is no law stating that just because you buy a disc you automatically have licence for all of the content therein.


I do not blindly hate good sir/madame, I simply bring forth the truth, something very few people have the courage to do in this capitalist state of North America. Sure, there are issues which on the grand scale are of far greater importance, However, as far as the gaming community is concerned, this is a prime concern. You're the only one I've heard complaining about it. Perhaps you're just too egotistical.


In closing, Though you would no doubt reject the whole bit of this, I am simply presenting data and observations in a blunt and unfiltered manner. It will, undoubtedly come across as opinion, However, these are factual observations and legitimate points strong in basis, if not in backing and directly presented data.
Also, my voicing my opinion that it is a negative is no worse than your attempts to market it to others.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of self-contradiction. 99% of everything you've said is your opinion, coupled with your assumptions. I hate to break it to you, but you're not better than everyone else. You're a fool if you think you can blindly throw assumptions about me around and think you're right about everything. I regret to inform you that you've been duped into thinking you're god.

In closing, neither you, nor I, have contributed anything useful to this thread for quite some time. With that in mind, I'm going to vacate the thread, and I suggest you do the same (unless of course you wish to further prove your immaturity and satisfy your thirst to get the last word in [as I am confident that you will]).
2011-10-26 08:30:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419


flipping heck! Eternal, i would respect you if you simply said you hate the MOVE pack, but you decided to advise people not to buy it. I personally dislike the MOVE, but i was more than happy to buy the DLC. i got so much for my money. all those lovely new stickers, decorations and materials was enough to persuade me and of course the sticker panel, which is absolutely fantastic. i can't use the MOVE very well, so my art so far has been pitiful, but what of those people that CAN use it? could you do this without the MOVE?


http://i7.lbp.me/img/ft/807fae9a75a8c9d0ab8c4c07dcc710b2a7333059.jpg
http://i5.lbp.me/img/ft/9358295ac343d3411f1565f188b587be10558a19.jpg
http://i9.lbp.me/img/ft/d896a2b1c86f33f02470be224b5d3f212af16502.jpg

they're a compelling argument for the MOVE if you ask me. whether this pack should have been included in the game is neither here nor there. we are where we are and 99% of people seem happy with their purchase
2011-10-27 05:08:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


I'm not saying you can do the paint function and such without the move pack, but you can easily make up for the sticker panel (which is what this whole thing was ultimately about) with a few work arounds.

Also.. My advising agiasnt is really no different from your advising for. We both have adequate points.
2011-10-31 05:19:00

Author:
Eternal_Rise
Posts: 113


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