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http://news.yahoo.com/steve-jobs-dies--apple-chief-created-personal-computer--ipad--ipod--iphone.html Didn't know he had cancer, explains why he gave up his CEO position though. I'm no Apple fanatic but it is sorrowful that such a man has died.

2011-10-06 01:57:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193

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Common knowledge that he had cancer surely? Just goes to show it doesn't matter how rich you are, cancer is the great leveler. I think it's funny that yesterday, the papers were speculating that he had stolen all of his good ideas (court case pending) - and today they are lauding him as a creative genius. How long before the sick jokes start appearing then? I bet they already are

2011-10-06 02:07:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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http://news.yahoo.com/steve-jobs-dies--apple-chief-created-personal-computer--ipad--ipod--iphone.html 1) Didn't know he had cancer, explains why he gave up his CEO position though. 2) I'm no Apple fanatic but it is sorrowful that such a man has died. 1) This was old news, although I can see how no one would care about a person having cancer unless they're a celebrity. 2) I'm not an Apple consumer. In fact, I hate Apple products and always thought Apple kept milking their products too much. Nonetheless, I will miss him; a shame someone with so much intelligence and contribution to this world has passed away.

2011-10-06 02:09:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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I apologize that I don't keep up to date with news on popular (or famous?) people; I'm just out of the loop...I seldom visit Yahoo (or any publication of "real-world" news) anyways, I only learned of his death when someone actually told me directly. I live under a rock.

2011-10-06 02:18:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193

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R.I.P. Steve Jobs! You were truly the greatest CEO and technological visionary of our time Steve Jobs dies: Apple chief created personal computer, iPad, iPod, iPhone The homepage of Apple's website this evening switched to a full-page image of Jobs with the text, "Steve Jobs 1955-2011." Clicking on the image revealed the additional text: "Apple has lost a visionary and creative genius, and the world has lost an amazing human being. Those of us who have been fortunate enough to know and work with Steve have lost a dear friend and an inspiring mentor. Steve leaves behind a company that only he could have built, and his spirit will forever be the foundation of Apple." apple.com (http://www.apple.com/) http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n575/Butaneflame/steve.png Steve Jobs, the mastermind behind Apple's iPhone, iPad, iPod, iMac and iTunes, has died, Apple said. Jobs was 56. Enigmatic and charismatic, Jobs said little about himself. But then his body began to fail him. In 2004, he was forced to say publicly he had a rare form of pancreatic cancer. In 2009, it was revealed that he had quietly gone to a Memphis hospital for a liver transplant. He took three medical leaves from Apple. He did not share details. In 2009, sources said, members of Apple's board of directors had to persuade him to disclose more about his health as "a fiduciary issue," interwoven with the health of the company.

2011-10-06 02:33:00 Author: Butaneflame Posts: 64

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I think people are overstating things slighty. He made over priced PC's and MP3 players... it's not like he cured cancer or anything. This tasteless, tactless joke brought to you from the sick mind of macnme

2011-10-06 02:53:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1824/theytookourjobs.jpg

2011-10-06 02:54:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Gosh, you could at least show some respect to the guy... He changed a lot of stuff, he may not have invented most of his things, but the way he put it out there, really only he could do. Aye, of all the places some of you could have left a rude comment it had to be here.

2011-10-06 04:30:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Gosh, you could at least show some respect to the guy... He changed a lot of stuff, he may not have invented most of his things, but the way he put it out there, really only he could do. Aye, of all the places some of you could have left a rude comment it had to be here. Everyone and everything exists purely for my amusement If I didn't respect or admire him when he was alive, why would I start once he's dead? Yeah, "only Steve Jobs could've done that".... only he didn't invent touchscreen technology, he stole the chip design from HTC, and stole his Apple theme from the Beatles. What he did do well was marketing... making people pay over the odds for anything with an apple logo on it.... yup, he was indeed a genius

2011-10-06 04:47:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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R.I.P Steve Jobs, You're a awesome Man who revolution the Gadget market. <3

2011-10-06 04:49:00 Author: CodemanPSX Posts: 147

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Gosh, you could at least show some respect to the guy... He changed a lot of stuff, he may not have invented most of his things, but the way he put it out there, really only he could do. Aye, of all the places some of you could have left a rude comment it had to be here. Apple-natic detected. And just how are we rude? Are we not allowed to give our opinions on the guy? Funny how when Michael Jackson passed away people would joke about him being a molester; what's even funnier is that people can make jokes about other people dying, but it's such a sin to make a joke about a marketer. If you're easily offended by our comments then I sure as hell pray to whatever God you worship that you don't see all the "jokes" people are making about him outside this site. Everyone and everything exists purely for my amusement If I didn't respect or admire him when he was alive, why would I start once he's dead? Yeah, "only Steve Jobs could've done that".... only he didn't invent touchscreen technology, he stole the chip design from HTC, and stole his Apple theme from the Beatles. What he did do well was marketing... making people pay over the odds for anything with an apple logo on it.... yup, he was indeed a genius I'm starting to like you more....

2011-10-06 04:59:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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This is a big loss, a creative mind once again consumed by cancer. R.I.P. Steve Jobs.

2011-10-06 05:00:00 Author: JspOt Posts: 3607

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Apple-natic detected. And just how are we rude? Are we not allowed to give our opinions on the guy? Funny how when Michael Jackson passed away people would joke about him being a molester; what's even funnier is that people can make jokes about other people dying, but it's such a sin to make a joke about a marketer. If you're easily offended by our comments then I sure as hell pray to whatever God you worship that you don't see all the "jokes" people are making about him outside this site. I'm starting to like you more.... This, Though I've always had no problems with Macnme. He can be a bit over-zealous with his opinions at times, but sometimes you just need a swift kick in the pants to listen to the facts.

2011-10-06 05:10:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468

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Even if you don't like Apple's products, you've got to have respect for the man. He was a fantastic human being with amazing spirit & dedication for what he loved to do. The thing I will remember him for most though, is this profound speech he gave in 2005. Seriously, it's awe inspiring & amazingly well written & read. I implore you to watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc I'd known about his health troubles for a while, a lot of people did. It's not exactly a shock to see him pass away, but it's still immensely sad nonetheless. R.I.P. Steve Jobs, you changed the world.

2011-10-06 05:19:00 Author: Mr_T-Shirt Posts: 1477

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Weird... in my work, everyones iPhone lost connectivity all at once - no email, no network connectivity... no nothing. So far, only iPhone users have been affected. It's like that scene at the end of E.T when the flower dies. 100% true story. We're still trying to fix it. (and you wonder why I hate Steve Jobs? - well, hate is strong word... it's more like "despise" )

2011-10-06 05:28:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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Weird... in my work, everyones iPhone lost connectivity all at once - no email, no network connectivity... no nothing. So far, only iPhone users have been affected. It's like that scene at the end of E.T when the flower dies. 100% true story. We're still trying to fix it. (and you wonder why I hate Steve Jobs? - well, hate is strong word... it's more like "despise" ) You don't have to praise him. You don't have to feel sad about this death. You're allowed to express your opinion. But making multiple posts about it is just a bit too much. Look, he had flaws. We all do. Can we not just set them aside for a minute, show some respect, then move on? Also, just because other people are making jokes about it doesn't make it right.

2011-10-06 05:49:00 Author: Testudini Posts: 3262

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No, that last post wasn't an opinion piece..it is actually something that is happening to me right now. As of right now, we are still clueless as to what's causing the outage It's just a weird coincidence that Jobs dies, and then so does everyone's iPhone?! (& I latch on to whatever thread has activity - beats doing actual work )

2011-10-06 05:56:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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R.I.P, Jobs. You were great visionary, inventor and good fellow chief executive of Pixar Animation Studios.

2011-10-06 07:01:00 Author: Coconuts Posts: 384

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Well everyone is entitled to an opinion. My opinion is that the world is a better place for having Steve Jobs in it. I know I've enjoyed many of the products he helped bring to the market. Hate the company if you like, but is it too much to respect the man as another human being? Don't bother anwering that, it's mostly rhetorical. What I think people seem to be missing today is he leaves behind four children and a wife. My thoughts are with them today.

2011-10-06 09:29:00 Author: Morgana25 Posts: 5983

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I thought an Apple a day was surposed to keep the doctors away.

2011-10-06 09:33:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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My thoughts will always go to the invisibles that sweat all the days without praise and work for for their families, not to the richs.

2011-10-06 10:11:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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I'm always saddened when someone dies, especially those that leave behind spouses and children. I'm wondering what will happen with Apple now? I'm not a fan of their computers but I love the Ipods. I still have my Ipod classic 160GB and watch movies on it all the time. Steve Jobs was the final say with their products, I wonder how Tim Cook will fill that role and what direction Apple is heading in. Also, Steve Jobs was the biggest individual shareholder of Disney and sat on the board of directors after selling Pixar to them. Disney owns ABC and ESPN. Hmm. Seems he may have had some influence as to what we watched as entertainment. While at the helm of Pixar, they made great movies such as Toy Story 1 & 2, A Bugs Life, Monsters Inc., The Incredibles, and Cars His legacy is more than just Apple Anyway, R.I.P. Steve. Prayers go out to your family

2011-10-06 13:01:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/steve-jobs-death oh god hours after his death and they already stared a meme, nice one internet ಠ_ಠ

2011-10-06 13:27:00 Author: wait wtf Posts: 853

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ok im not a fanboy, but when a guy dies, since when is it funny to make fun of him? and i actually dont use most of their products, but really, some of you just cant keep from making a rude comment. its not funny here.

2011-10-06 15:18:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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when a guy dies, since when is it funny to make fun of him? Always has been, we've just got better technology now so it happens faster and is more noticable.

2011-10-06 16:04:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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ok im not a fanboy, but when a guy dies, since when is it funny to make fun of him? and i actually dont use most of their products, but really, some of you just cant keep from making a rude comment. its not funny here. Its sad yes but its our way as humans. People didnt stop making fun of Hitler when he died. Why is it different when they are dead than alive e.g "Lol Hitlers moustache" after he died "OMG How could you make fun of him, he is dead" Its silly. Same with Michael Jackson. R.I.P My thoughts go out to the family. I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING STEVE JOBS TO HITLER, IT WAS AN EXAMPLE.

2011-10-06 17:28:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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Its sad yes but its our way as humans. People didnt stop making fun of Hitler when he died. Why is it different when they are dead than alive e.g "Lol Hitlers moustache" after he died "OMG How could you make fun of him, he is dead" Its silly. Same with Michael Jackson. R.I.P My thoughts go out to the family. I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING STEVE JOBS TO HITLER, IT WAS AN EXAMPLE. Yeah, thats sort of how I am thinking right now...

2011-10-06 17:56:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Oh lawl, look what I got via PM: Subject: *Devious face* Ha ha ha, you're very funny... NOT! You are a disgrace to the LBPC Community. Not happy. And just how am I a disgrace to the community? Is it because I merely posted an image related to his death that caused no harm, or is it because you were too easily offended? If I'm such a disgrace, then why are you scared of saying it publicly on this thread? True that talking ill of the dead is rude, but where in this entire thread did I wish this man any harm? All I have done in here was defend Macme on his opinions, and nowhere did I read that he was glad Steve Jobs was dead or that Macme was mocking him. He was pointing out facts and giving his opinion on the matter. Is the thread called "Praise Steve Jobs" or "NO OPINIONS"? The point is the thread is giving us a topic to discuss about: Steve Jobs passing away. Our opinions so far are related to the content and we are being respectful enough not to ridicule a dead man; in fact, OP is a mod and he hasn't even said our posts were rude. If anything, you should start learning more about people having different perspectives and how you should deal with them; just because I don't like something you like doesn't give you any right to force me to agree with you, otherwise it's your fanism talking on your behalf, not your actual morals.

2011-10-06 17:58:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Well i can say I havent sent any PMs in a long time so it wasnt me. and you dont have to agree to anything anybody says

2011-10-06 17:59:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Well i can say I havent sent any PMs in a long time so it wasnt me. and you dont have to agree to anything anybody says I know it wasn't you, and the guy who sent it was someone I never met before, so I assume he's new. I just thought I'd share that information just tell everybody how some people are being too sensitive on the matter.

2011-10-06 18:19:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Yeah... also i was just giving my opinion, so sorry if i was too harsh. *insert sad face here*

2011-10-06 18:21:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Love him or hate him, unless you live under a rock somewhere, the guy has probably changed all of your lives in some way...not many people can claim as much.

2011-10-06 18:41:00 Author: Chazprime Posts: 587

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Yes and no. But dont reply anybody to this, as i would not like to start an argument.

2011-10-06 19:14:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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While I've never been a fan of Apple hugely, I use my iPod Shuffle (Gen II, oh yeah) every day, and it is a shame he's gone now.

2011-10-06 20:49:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893

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While I've never been a fan of Apple hugely, I use my iPod Shuffle (Gen II, oh yeah) every day, and it is a shame he's gone now. Yeah, but he had cancer and was suffering from it.

2011-10-06 21:32:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Love him or hate him, unless you live under a rock somewhere, the guy has probably changed all of your lives in some way...not many people can claim as much. True, although I never said I hated him. I find it odd someone would accuse me of ridiculing a guy when I already posted that I will miss Steve Jobs. I guess people don't take the time to read. For those of you who are going to go back and read my first post, yes I said I hate Apple; however, hating a company is a different matter than hating a person. I did not say nor do I currently hate Steve Jobs. On that note, I only defending Macme because Steve Jobs did in fact "steal" technology. In fact, Steve openly admitted that he was not an inventor and considered himself an artist because he just redesigned things that already existed. All he ever did was popularize technology, not invent them, and people on here who decided to go against Macme and calling him heartless were jumping the gun on things, that's all. I'll stop posting here now. It's clear that it is too early to have a serious discussion here of any sort when people are still saddened about this news. Perhaps after a month or so after this event we can look back, forget these silly arguments, and go back to loving/hating Apple products without dragging in any emotional drama into it.

2011-10-06 23:00:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Steve Jobs did in fact "steal" technology. In fact, Steve openly admitted that he was not an inventor and considered himself an artist because he just redesigned things that already existed. All he ever did was popularize technology, not invent them, and people on here who decided to go against Macme and calling him heartless were jumping the gun on things, that's all. Not specifically directed at you Cyber, you were just the last post so you got quoted These are 2 posts from another forum, I think they sum up the whole stealing/inventing/innovator/genius thing pretty well. I think your mis informed.. Bill Gates Stole the operating system and GUI from Steve Jobs and Apple as Steve Jobs had the rights to use the GUI from Xerox, not the other way around. Gates bought the DOS system from Seattle Computer company for around $50,000, and they then used that system in conjunction with ibm to create their computers. Then Apple and Microsoft got together and made the macintosh and this is when Bill Gates backstabbed Apple by using the code that they had exclusively designed in conjunction with apple and then used it in the NEC computers. So really Bill Gates stole from Apple first. As for innovation, again I'll admit: I don't think Apple really 'invented' much. What they did do however, and still do, is identify, research and understand new and emerging technologies, and took the complexity out of it and put it in a package that is easy and fun to use whilst being affordable. Here's a simple, fun example: Setup a Wi Fi network (home router or whatever). Join your Windows computer to it. Then join a Mac to it. Compare the effort and time involved for each. Tell me which one starts throwing profiles and warnings and prompts at you, and which one is online and ready to go. Did Apple invent Wi Fi? No. But they found it, learnt it, implemented it, and only then did everyone see its potential. iMacs were the first major implementor of USB. iBooks I believe had the first widespread implementation of 802.11b WiFi. iPods brought a simple, attractive, intuitive way for people to listen to music whereever they are. iPhones gave us touch screens and user interfaces that were, shock horror, actually worth using. PDA's and Smart phones have been around for a long time - including Apple's own previous efforts (the Newton). What happened, tell me, did everyone go "Meh, same old" or did everyone flip out and lose their ****? Sure, maybe the technology wasn't new, or the idea wasn't new, but it was delivered in a new, drastically improved way. Whatever dude, I guess it's warm and comfortable under your rock. Me, I like Apple products, not all of them and not everything about them but I like 'em. And I do think Steve was a pretty amazing person, if nothing else for his business skills alone. I'm not particularly sad that he died, I've some sympathy for his family/friends but that's about it, it's not as if I knew him personally. I don't really care if people make jokes, it's bound to happen, as long as you're not mailing them to his family/friends I can't really see the harm. What really gets me though is the people who can't seem to discern the difference between Apple products and the man behind them. Seeing people say they hate Steve Jobs when what they really don't like are his products is ridiculous, seems they just can't pass up another opportunity to bash on Apple.

2011-10-07 00:38:00 Author: SR20DETDOG Posts: 2431

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Eurgh, what a train wreck of a thread. Anyway, RIP Steve Jobs. He was one of the greatest innovators of our time. While he didn't invent stuff, he knew what to push forward and what to hold back. He knew when a product was good, and he even knew what we wanted before we even knew we wanted it. It takes a special kind of genius to know that, and he helped pave the way we use technology today. While I'm not a massive apple fan (Will never buy a mac prob - i'll take PC any day, but do have an iphone) you cannot deny how impressive his life accomplishments were. Not many people could get fired from a CEO position, only to make a new company, and have that bought by your previous company to once again become CEO of it. All the while investing in a graphics company for $5 million, to later sell it to disney for $7.4 billion, becoming the largest single shareholder of disney. About the above convo - at the end of the day it's not about who invents them, but who perfects them.

2011-10-07 01:33:00 Author: ryryryan Posts: 3767

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As a musician, I can at least say Jobs helped the music industry grow. I don't think music sales would be as great without the Ipods. Regardless of what the man did, he's dead and gone now. Dead or alive we should really look at the good in people rather than the bad. I believe he was a good man, and he wanted us all to think the same of him.

2011-10-07 07:46:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849

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He changed the way modern technology was used. RIP...

2011-10-07 08:06:00 Author: sheepysean13 Posts: 27

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http://technorati.com/lifestyle/article/the-cure-for-cancer-has-been/ 'Nuff said.

2011-10-08 15:38:00 Author: Nurolight Posts: 918

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I say keep the jokes coming. "When Reagan was president, we had Bob Hope, Johnny Cash and Steve Jobs. Now, with Barack Obama, we have no Hope, no Cash and no Jobs."

2011-10-09 09:12:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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Prominent internet figure dies > Internet behaves as it has always done > People are surprised. I'm surprised that people are still surprised The more prominent and famous someone is, the bigger target they are for ridicule. Death does not change this fact . In fact, comedy itself is based on saying the unsayable, subverting expectations and ridiculing that which should not be ridiculed. Steve Jobs the public figure was probably very different to Steve Jobs - husband and father. None if us knew Steve Jobs in his "husband and father" role... we all knew him in his public "I invented the Internet" role. It's Steve Jobs the public figure we are ridiculing... not Steve Jobs, the private individual. Get a sense of humour - I'm sure there's an app for it

2011-10-09 09:59:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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^^^The three post above me made me lol. @Macnme IMO, When someone dies, it's disrespectful to make fun AT ALL. Steve jobs the public icon or steve jobs as himself. It's still all steve jobs. He was a human being just like us all. Just because he's famous doesn't mean he deserves critisism. I don't really find it too funny. But to be fair, I don't have much of a dark sense of humor. But really, would you ridicule your own mother if she was famous and died? Well...I hope not...

2011-10-09 13:01:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849

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Obviously I wouldn't ridicule my own mother if she had died of cancer... because it's my own mother. But if she was a prominent, world renowned figure - then I would expect tasteless jokes within minutes of her passing. Such is the nature of jokes. Now, If I were to post a "Haters Gonna Hate" poster here... would it be me hating Steve Jobs? Or you guys hating me for hating Steve Jobs?

2011-10-09 14:08:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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Obviously I wouldn't ridicule my own mother if she had died of cancer... because it's my own mother. But if she was a prominent, world renowned figure - then I would expect tasteless jokes within minutes of her passing. Such is the nature of jokes. Now, If I were to post a "Haters Gonna Hate" poster here... would it be me hating Steve Jobs? Or you guys hating me for hating Steve Jobs? You gotta learn how to empathize man. That's all I'm gonna say.

2011-10-09 15:41:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Etinogard/10446931.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Etinogard/tumblr_lqd4chIY4l1qc1jg4o1_r1_500.gif

2011-10-09 16:22:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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You gotta learn how to empathize man. That's all I'm gonna say. & do you think Steve Jobs empathised with the people working in the sweatshops that he set up in order to make his I-brand goods? No, he was too busy laughing all the way to the bank. He's not the messiah - he's a very naughty boy

2011-10-09 17:46:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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You know, there's a difference between actually being insightful and simply being an unbearable ********. Really, you aren't being idiosyncratic, witty or edgy. You aren't bringing up anything relevant to the topic at hand. You aren't even being funny. You're just being a jerk. One who constantly misses the point at that. To be honest, you constantly act like a closed-minded jerk who tries to pass it off as "creative thinking" and everyone else being a bunch of lowly morons who can't handle the "truth". You're entitled to your own opinions, but don't be an *** about them. Leave your opinions at appropriate places, and better yet, improve the way you present your opinions. I'm not particularly saddened by Job's death (don't get me wrong, he was a great person and his passing is unfortunate), but I realize that other people are. Are there issues with how the company was run? Probably. Do these issues warrant discussion? Of course, but not in this thread. This thread is about mourning the loss of someone. Maybe I'm just a stupid, fat, condescending moron who misses the point. Maybe I'm just taking things too seriously. Quite frankly, I don't care. As comishguy said, try for some empathy; empathy for the people in this thread who are upset by his death. Save the callous jokes for later, or better yet, somewhere else. Same goes for the "controversial" opinions. I have a pretty dark sense of humour as well. I won't go into details about it but I know when to restrain myself when necessary, even if I don't want to. TL;DR: There's a time and place for everything If this makes me a hater, then so be it.

2011-10-10 06:23:00 Author: bonner123 Posts: 1487

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Well, Thanks for calling me a jerk and everything - that instantly wins me over to your side of thinking This thread was never a "Lay a flower at his coffin" thread... it was a "Have you heard the news" thread. And you coming on here to bad-mouth me directly, where other people have also posted jokes aside from me (so it's already not the most respectful thread) - and complaining about peoples sense of humour and how you don't share it - does make you come across as "a stupid, fat, condescending moron who misses the point" (your words not mine). But as you said - you don't care... so ummm, why should I? There are plenty more appropriate, more respectful; places where you can post about your grief than on a LBP forum. Aside from his close friends and family - who is actually in a "state of mourning" over his passing? I take it it's the same people who we see whooping and cheering and queuing overnight for the latest i-Brand product? Those people annoy me aswell. Actually this thread is now for posting jokes about Steve Jobs - and so far I haven;t posted any - so I don't even know what you're getting all skirty about. Latest one to make me smirk; I'm a PC .. Pancreatic cancer was my idea

2011-10-10 13:05:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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