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(Please wait for poll to appear if it isn't there) So if anyone here isn't familiar with the DC universe: The Joker is a manic criminal mastermind - he has killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people and terrorized countless more. He is not in it for the money or the power, he is in it for the pleasure he gets from breaking people mentally. Terrorism is all just games and show for him. The Joker is always caught and sentenced to confinement in Arkham Asylum - a mental instutition. But he always gets out. All things about target audience and comic shelf life aside - Is this sensible? Can the Joker be rehabilitated? Should we just lock the Joker up for life? Or should we just execute him? IT might be the most humane way. No more victims, and he will not have to suffer with his illness. What would you do?

2011-08-22 17:18:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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No the joker cannot be rehabilitated. I believe in extreme hard labor. Chain his silly, clown makeup wearing self to a big rock and give him a hammer. His sole job is to make little rocks outta big rocks. Then every 2 hours he gets a 10 minute water hose beating break. 5 guards on a wall, all pointing assault weapons at him. He gets off the chain, headshot, he stops working, tear gas.

2011-08-22 18:17:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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If it was up to me, he'd get the lethal injection within the hour of his capture. Those who have read at least a few comics involving him know he's way beyond redemption. DC will never kill, cure or get rid of him though. I don't know why but the eternal Batman vs Joker fight still makes money somehow, even when there's nothing the Joker can do to surprise the readers anymore. It's what makes me mad about comic book writers, they almost invariably end a story the same way it begun: with the criminals in jail or missing, presumed dead. So that in the very next story those villans can break out or show they weren't dead after all and go on their 18974th rampage thorugh the city. Comic book superheroes don't learn, ever. In time they just become a plot device enabling the readers to see multiple flavours of baddies getting knocked out. No the joker cannot be rehabilitated. I believe in extreme hard labor. Chain his silly, clown makeup wearing self to a big rock and give him a hammer. His sole job is to make little rocks outta big rocks. Then every 2 hours he gets a 10 minute water hose beating break. 5 guards on a wall, all pointing assault weapons at him. He gets off the chain, headshot, he stops working, tear gas. Nope. I believe he has escaped in worse conditions Give him as much as a straw and the little ******* uses it to open the locks and kill the guards with it

2011-08-22 18:19:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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We have seen The Joker escape countless times from jail. He has done things as bad as the devil. Off with his head.

2011-08-22 18:20:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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Why so serious everybody? http://zombierobots.net/wp-content/main/2011_03/Why-so-serious-Joker-cat.jpg I believe Wayne Industries would be fully capable of creating a Virtual Reality machine they can hook the Joker up to, and let him simulate his own mental madness over completely virtual people. Hopefully he has not watched The Matrix...

2011-08-22 19:29:00 Author: moonwire Posts: 1627

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You can't go taking out (questionably) Batman's greatest villian. The Riddler can't do it all by himself!

2011-08-22 21:03:00 Author: Nurolight Posts: 918

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Death is only ever a minor setback in comics you might as well kill him as a publicity stunt and bring him back next year as another publicity stunt.

2011-08-22 21:24:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Rapid-Coot is right. While I am of the belief that Joker is an incurably murderous psychopath and irredeemably evil, the fact is that simply killing him would never stick in the context of the universe he comes from and from a more meta perspective he is simply too "good" of a character to not be used by writers. In fact, in a display of my closet comicbook fanboy-ism I can tell you that there was an "Elseworlds" comic book series that actually showed this happening as one of its plot points and it does not really go well; in the series when Joker does manage to drive Batman to kill him he does in fact die and goes to Hell and comes back with demonic powers making him even more dangerous then before. The closest thing to a true solution would be to give him a lobotomy to leave him a permanent vegetable, but DC won't ever do that for real.

2011-08-23 03:26:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512

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Rapid-Coot is right. While I am of the belief that Joker is an incurably murderous psychopath and irredeemably evil, the fact is that simply killing him would never stick in the context of the universe he comes from and from a more meta perspective he is simply too "good" of a character to not be used by writers. In fact, in a display of my closet comicbook fanboy-ism I can tell you that there was an "Elseworlds" comic book series that actually showed this happening as one of its plot points and it does not really go well; in the series when Joker does manage to drive Batman to kill him he does in fact die and goes to Hell and comes back with demonic powers making him even more dangerous then before. The closest thing to a true solution would be to give him a lobotomy to leave him a permanent vegetable, but DC won't ever do that for real. Very true. No to mention comic books are the one and only medium where one or various authors can screw up the continuity as much as they want and no one will care. Hypothetical discussion there was in DC's headquarters around 2008: "Batman: Rip has the Black Glove organization killing Bruce Wayne in a helicopter crash?!? What the hell will I do now with this epic artwork of Superman carrying Batman's dead body in the aftermath of the upcoming "Final Crisis" series?" "Oh well, we'll retcon that and tell he survived the crash after all to immediately join the Final Crisis battle afterwards without even warning his close friends, making them deal with a big crime wave in Gotham on their own. And then we'll kill him off." "Great idea! But check this out: in Final Crisis he isn't really killed but just transported back in time, and the dead body Superman finds is in reality a clone of him. This way we can resurrect Bruce Wayne after a year or so when enough shenanigans have ensued."" So yeah, comic book writers can't make a character state a fact without retconning/contradicting other 5 that were established decades ago

2011-08-23 06:27:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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As true as those statements that Coot and Daipek stated are, I'd still want to kill the Joker. I mean, he has killed various people in the DC Universe, Robin (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2715467772_fc851a03fe.jpg) and even Batman (http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/joker-kills-batman-in-front-of-disabled-kids.jpg) himself at one point. Though they'd probably come up with a synopsis explaining that he didn't die (and probably got sucked into a void or something), it'd be refreshing to just see the Joker die for once. Oh, and... technically, he did die (http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/Joker_4.jpg) at one point (even further proof that he won't be down for long).

2011-08-23 07:50:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack Posts: 5757

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The Joker is a tricky b*stard but i dont agree he should die...it's a comic/Game and he?s the perfect villain...it wouldn?t be the same without him...who?s gonna take his place? The Penguin?? QUACK!!

2011-08-23 11:12:00 Author: Hellobob5 Posts: 382

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I like biorogues idea. But in replace of the hammer, I'd give him a Popsicle stick.

2011-08-23 11:20:00 Author: illuminationx Posts: 860

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Fact of the matter is - The Joker is clinically insane - and suffers from severe Borderline Personality Disorder and a total lack of Empathy - indicating a deep rooted psychosis. The only option for a prosecutor or defense is to play the "Insanity Card"; The fact that The Joker keeps escaping is more the fault of the authorities (obviously not keeping him "secure" enough). But then again - Gotham is in America isn't it? They have not ratified their Human Rights Convention - so they don't mind murdering people (sorry "Executing" people) who have mental disabilities .... Ooooh - Political!

2011-08-23 13:34:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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In my world, Batman would have been a brief five to six issue or so, basically showing Batman's rise and how he refuses to kill. The Joker would appear for the explicit purpose of trying to get Batman to kill. The series would end with Batman finally breaking his promise and killing the Joker... albeit finally giving in to his own rage and insanity. But no, it goes on forever, and thus I am disappoint, son. But yeah, the Joker is sane enough to know why he's killing people. In reality he would have been put to death long ago, but meh. Also, Outlaw, that thing of the Joker dying was from the Dark Knight Returns (... I think, anyway), a futuristic "What-If?" ending to Batman. Hence, it never technically happened in the continuity, and thus Joker didn't die. Which is his only real superpower. Being impervious to death. :/

2011-08-23 13:43:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Thanks for all the replies. Yeah guys, I agree about death being a pointless venture in the comics. That's why I said : All things about target audience and comic shelf life aside - Is this sensible? Like imagine you were actually living in Gotham City. Or that there actually was a person like The Joker in YOUR city. (Which there very well could be - even if he doesn't dress like a clown)

2011-08-23 14:08:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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Rated R soultion, couldn't work in a comic

2011-08-23 14:21:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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