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People who don't rate

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So this has been bugging me for a while now, mostly due to noticing the trend from one of my levels, that there are A LOT of people who don't rate a level. It's also obvious on the majority of levels overall due to the total plays vs total yays/nays that's often around the 50% mark.

I'm just curious really, why don't people vote? You''re prompted to do so when you finish the level (or pause) and it's literally clicking a button. I can understand if the level is simply 'meh', but especially on some of the Mm picks - these levels are anything but meh.

Was LBP1 different, did the 5 star system prompt more people to vote? I guess there's a problem having black and white options in that you may want to choose grey.

Do you always vote?		2011-08-10 14:05:00

Author:
Xaif
Posts: 365

People don't rate for many reasons. and it's the best thing ever we don't have to.
my advice is go look at the many bloody topics on this forum that talk about the rating system.

One main reason is a lot of people when they play a level did not hate or love it. so they don't vote.
and focusing people to rate is Evil. the LBP1 rating system was horrible. *mew		2011-08-10 14:12:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

Yeah. In LBP1 I would have killed for the ability to make ratings non mandatory.2011-08-10 14:14:00

Author:
poorjack
Posts: 1806

If I don't like a level, I wont frown it unless its really bad or I have some great feedback to make it better. Even though a level is bad, if I can tell they worked hard on it, I also wont frown it.2011-08-10 14:17:00

Author:
Godzilla
Posts: 224

I like to think that by allowing optional ratings, they would be more accurate to the level. If people have a choice they won't feel pressured into having to choose. For example in lbp1 the default rating was the average rating users were giving it. Those who did not want to rate quickly skipped through this section selecting the default so once it achieved a certain number of plays the rating stuck. The new system gives you far more information breaking down likes / dislikes / no rating, against plays making it easier to see what people really think of the level...

Hopefully that makes sense in some way, overall I think it provides ratings more true to a level and because of this, I try to rate levels as much I can		2011-08-10 14:37:00

Author:
ForgottenEnigma
Posts: 1414

The thing that I find surprising is the sheer number of people who don't rate, it's often more than 50%. Especially regarding levels that are clearly really good. I guess it is subjective what's good though. With the scoreboards down I suppose it also makes it ambiguous whether or not a level was played to completion or not, something regarding my own levels this is something I would like to know. If a lot of people played to completion and didn't vote either way, I'd be a bit concerned.

I agree with what you're all saying though, optional ratings are a good thing, interesting how they were mandatory in LBP1.		2011-08-10 14:47:00

Author:
Xaif
Posts: 365

I like the new way much better. I do wonder why people don't rate something though but i guess its also because there are some people who literaly play hundreds of levels a week so therefore only rate ones they think really stand out. Its good rating isn't mandatory otherwise who knows how many frowns some of our levels would have.

I can see how some people onsider players that didn't rate their levels to have not liked it but i like to see it that they did just not to the point they could really be bothered rating.
Sometimes i do wonder what the majority like though as my most glitchy level Sack Soldiers - S-Day has not yet been rated with a dislike. Seeing as it has more glitches than an IBM laptop i don't understand how it hasn't been disliked yet my new Bioshock demo has. Very strange.		2011-08-10 15:25:00

Author:
Lordwarblade
Posts: 761

I dont care about ratings nearly as much as reviews. If I can 4 or 5 GOOD reviews. And by good I mean detailed... Then I am happy.2011-08-10 15:43:00

Author:
poorjack
Posts: 1806

I do wonder why people don't rate something though but i guess its also because there are some people who literaly play hundreds of levels a week so therefore only rate ones they think really stand out. Its good rating isn't mandatory otherwise who knows how many frowns some of our levels would have.

In my case, it's this, and only this. I've easily played 300 levels in the past two weeks - and after a while, you get sort of disillusioned. Yes, it's only a button click - but tell me this:

Out of those 300 levels, say I boo'd 100, because I hated them or found them dull or they were pointless or whatever reason - what if say, half of those people came back at me, demanding a reason why I boo'd? (300-200/5 = 1/6 = 50 people)

Now take into account that I only played 300 levels in the past forntight. Between spotlighting and my own personal playtime, I've easily played over a thousand in the past two months. So I could potentially have hundreds of people asking me why I boo'd their level? (1000/6= 166 people)

Say what you will about not fearing people's reaction to a boo rating - but personally, I'd rather have a bit of peace. If I like a level at all, I will yay it - anything meh or below is without a rating for me, unless it's REALLY disasterous.

I don't speak for the majority here, but wanted to show that side of things too.		2011-08-10 15:56:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

Also, I often forget, even if I really liked it. :blush:2011-08-10 16:07:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284

I usually don't rate. It's like the middle ground for me. When a level wasn't bad per se but still wasn't worth my time, I prefer to remain neutral. At least I gave that level a play. Plays can be an indicator of quality too, though in many cases they're most certainly not.2011-08-10 17:10:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

I often don't rate levels that I don't feel qualified to judge (movies: cause I don't care for them, music: cause I don't anything about it). Levels I didn't complete also never get a rating from me.2011-08-10 18:14:00

Author:
silmedriel
Posts: 64

I used to,

Does it seem like a lose lose situation to anyone else? Its like you play a level you think is just ok, you dont rate it a yay, because it didnt really satisfy you that much, but you dont boo it because there was some effort that went into it, so you dont do neither and they still get mad lol Just wait till you encounter people that actually stalk you and ask why you didnt rate your level, and when you tell them why, they get even more upset.

Its really hard to give constructive criticism in LBP, so i just dont give any at all anymore.		2011-08-10 18:59:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877

Just wait till you encounter people that actually stalk you and ask why you didnt rate your level

Well i've not seen them do for that reason xD... what? do you play levels that don't got many plays?
so they notice everytime someone plays their levels and stalk them?

anyways just ignore and never reply to people that ask you why you rated their levels like you did.
just ignore them, and they'll go away. *mew		2011-08-10 19:05:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

I like the new way much better. I do wonder why people don't rate something though but i guess its also because there are some people who literaly play hundreds of levels a week so therefore only rate ones they think really stand out. Its good rating isn't mandatory otherwise who knows how many frowns some of our levels would have.

I can see how some people onsider players that didn't rate their levels to have not liked it but i like to see it that they did just not to the point they could really be bothered rating.
Sometimes i do wonder what the majority like though as my most glitchy level Sack Soldiers - S-Day has not yet been rated with a dislike. Seeing as it has more glitches than an IBM laptop i don't understand how it hasn't been disliked yet my new Bioshock demo has. Very strange.

I heard a lot of Complaints about People who rate your Level bad if you rate theirs with a boo.
Even if their Level surely deserved it and the other one ist quite good.

So I can undestand People that don't rate, if they didn't like the Level.

I only rate Levels bad if they are only a few squares and some sponge stuck together
I don't want a new creator to feel discouraged, just because I didn't like the Theme/was to bad for the Level to finish/ or have seen better stuff from experienced creators.		2011-08-10 19:46:00

Author:
Dhana777
Posts: 122

the majority of the time I will "like" a level, even if it was bad, but you could tell they put effort into it. Maybe they're just not good at creating. Like me. I try like heck, but they just don't turn out the way I want them to. I rarely "boo" a level unless it is just junk, zero effort, or you just running across the blank level floor. I always leave kind words in the review or comments section unless they're are just too many comments already. Like the other day I played someone's level that I really, really liked, but there were already 281 reviews. What could I have said that hadn't already been said? So, I just said I really enjoyed the level and thank you.2011-08-10 20:15:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424

Well i've not seen them do for that reason xD... what? do you play levels that don't got many plays?
so they notice everytime someone plays their levels and stalk them?

anyways just ignore and never reply to people that ask you why you rated their levels like you did.
just ignore them, and they'll go away. *mew

I think you would have to be stalked by a lot of these people to not look bad for saying this. Unless it was a zero effort level, if someone asks you why you booed I think it would be quite rude to refuse to tell them.		2011-08-10 22:45:00

Author:
silmedriel
Posts: 64

Meh , occasionly i'll vote,usually the level are alright, so i just leave it blank,but if i really like it i'll give it a yay. and if I don't like it,i probably won't but maybe.i'll nay it.2011-08-11 02:24:00

Author:
Unknown User

For me when it comes to levels I rate by yaying or booing. If the level is good, I'll yay it, If it's just terrible, It will be booed. But Only at a time where the level is at a "meh" where it's not bad but it's not really good. I don't rate. It just goes between them and I really hate choosing. The only thing that really ticks me off are people who boo levels for just dumb reasons, like if they want something as a prize and dont get it, or if it's too hard. Sometimes the ratings get annoying. I say leave the non voters be, I'd rather have no yay/boo rating than a straight up boo rating. but that's just me..2011-08-11 04:08:00

Author:
ishotthesherrif
Posts: 101

I would like a (:|) face for neutral rating option.
That way I would "rate" a lot more levels.

But heck, the fact that MM gave us an option to vote this time is worth something.
That should have been in the game from the start (like a lot of things) though. Basic interface design imo!		2011-08-11 06:04:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513

Like others have said, I use "no rating" as a kind of middle ground between yay and boo. It didn't suck but it wasn't great either. There's been some mention of being harrassed for a rating but I haven't encountered much of that. I think once I got a message politely asking why I gave a level a boo--because it was polite and sincere, I replied, but if it hadn't been, I would have simply ignored it and blocked them if they persisted.2011-08-11 20:57:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188

Mm gave you 3 choices. Yay, Boo, or Neutral. Sometimes levels just aren't Yay or Boo worthy. I don't rate if the creator put forth effort but made a lackluster of a level. When those levels come about, I give a blank stare and move along.2011-08-11 23:14:00

Author:
Shadowstarkirby
Posts: 205

I dont boo new creaters levels because it hurts the friendly comunity MM has been trying to create, dispite all of the awful H4H levels.

Also, if you think about it, the rateing system for a level is alot like the moderation system in place. You can never tell why someone booed or yeyed, unless they review. I think they should add some more tags like "too hard" "too easy" "no effort" "lack of detail" Or for the yeys "origanal" "Fun" "Addicting"		2011-08-11 23:35:00

Author:
Unknown User

It always seems like people who vote things down do so without any explanation or reasoning whatsoever. I equate this to LBP2 rage quitting.2011-08-12 00:18:00

Author:
Nightshade_games
Posts: 76

I always rate every time. I only don't vote if I can't tell if I enjoyed the level or not, or the level's not very good but there's at least a sign that the creator actually tried.2011-08-12 14:03:00

Author:
lemurboy12
Posts: 842

It always seems like people who vote things down do so without any explanation or reasoning whatsoever. I equate this to LBP2 rage quitting.

Thats the thing i hate most about ratings--not saying 5 stars were much better either. Maybe if they only allow you the option to rate if you complete the level or something. I dont think most of these guys finish levels before they rate it down. Its like you get booed for making poor levels, and you get booed for making great ones.		2011-08-12 14:16:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877

I used to rate every level but I have stopped doing that for quite a while now. Mostly because of the people that can't handle the rating system if I boo their level, it isn't worth the trouble of sifting through five to ten daily messages about booing levels.2011-08-12 17:00:00

Author:
tanrockstan34
Posts: 1076

Having worked on a level for a long time. I can appreciate the levels that obviously had alot of time put into the. Even if they aren't as fun as they could be. I yay based on merit, and heart If I personally love it. People don't fully understand that yaying and booing is 'vote up' and 'vote down'. It's contributing to the community by pushing levels that YOU think others would like further up on the stack.2011-08-12 18:50:00

Author:
Nightshade_games
Posts: 76

One main reason is a lot of people when they play a level did not hate or love it. so they don't vote.
Simple as this ^		2011-08-13 15:36:00

Author:
Masseyf
Posts: 226

Or simply don't care to rate :>2011-08-13 17:21:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

It's a tricky balance. For me, I'm afraid to Boo since 100% of the time the person will revenge Boo. I mean every danged time. Learned this lesson fairly early and just stopped giving Boos. And this fear influences actions and warps the voting system.

I think it would be much, much better if they just remove the Boo. That still leaves us with no less than six ways to express ourselves (Yay, Level Heart, Creator Heart, Comment, Review, and Good Grief). If someone liked a level, they can take the extra 0.2 seconds at the end to Yay it, or go more in depth. If they didn't like it, they would be forced to AT LEAST write something spammy... which you could remove, or use as evidence of Good Grief behavior, fixing another system I feel is broken. (Good Grief is all too powerful and works like an endgame Boo, easily abused by precisely the a**hole kids who go around sprinkling Boos in the community like Johnny Ecoterrorist Appleseed). Heh heh.		2011-08-16 04:43:00

Author:
Unknown User

Personally I think its ridiculous how many people don't rate. It seems like tons of people play tons of levels but only rate a few... I don't know about anyone else but I only play levels that interest me or ones that people ask me to check out. If its obvious that they tried or the level was pretty good, Il always yay. The only reason Il boo is if the level contains something stolen, and even then I will leave a neutral review stating to give credit for the music. If they put credit, then I go change my neutral to a yay but if they boo or delete my review, then I go boo it with a big STOLEN in the review. Now I am guilty of chasing people down that boo or neutral but its player dependant. I generally assume if you don't rate up then you are just new to the game. (several neutral raters and booers have < 3 hearts and no levels) I never bother asking them but if its an experianced creator that I would think would like it... I go ask them why they didnt. Its ridiculous to me that people forget to or dont care to rate. That just sounds rude. It shouldn't be that hard to get hearts in this game and especially just a yay. It would be nice if more of you "experianced" players rated to counter the booers and neutral raters. To me its like this.. You boo if you hate the level or it has something stolen or copied, you neutral if you didn't like it, you yay if you liked it and you heart if you really liked it. Il yay 95% of the levels I play and probably heart 80%. If its absolutely amazing and/or I think it needs promoting.. I'l heart it and yay with Bad_Dortr.2011-08-16 16:26:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548

I agree with what a lot of people say here, there's very petty people around on LBP. If you boo their level, they'll come back and boo your entire collection. What ever rating system is available it's always going to get abused, but like others I've held off on rating a level because I was worried they'd come and return the 'favour'. The pins however make me feel compelled to rate every level I play. I even remember ages ago I left a constructive review on someone's level and he came and posted on my profile going nuts saying "UR A CRAP CREATOR" etc etc. That was me being helpful, as far as I'm aware I didn't rate either way and actually LIKED one of his other levels. Once I pointed this out to him and told him he was being immature, he apologised. You never know what type of person the creator is or how old they are, so if you boo an 11 year old kid, he's gonna come and boo you.

A possible solution to this could be to show a person's yay/boo ratio, if the player has a high booing ratio it's likely that they'll come and boo you back. It could deter people from booing so often too as giving out lots of boos has an impact on your profile, where as booing at the minute only affects the creater who's level it is.		2011-08-17 16:48:00

Author:
Xaif
Posts: 365

Is it that common getting revenge boos? Until now I never published a level so it was never a problem for me. I mean, if we just published a decent level and boo a terrible one... the creator of that terrible level is obviously a kid, so the first thing he'll do is boo our level, putting it wwith 1 boo and 0 yays. And who wants to play a level with that ratio?

Now I'm worried, I've been making a level for a while. The wise thing would be avoiding possibly bad levels until our level has a steady rating. Jesus, this is just as bad as H4H. Boo 4 Boo, but you don't need to beg for it 		2011-08-17 17:35:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

I wouldn't say revenge booing is that common but i don't see why people just HAVE to boo. If I check out a creator and see that most of their reviews are boos, it makes them look like a total jerk. If you want to help someone with feedback a neutral rate and review on problems or tips is the best option. It pretty much takes 2 boos out of the equation, one being yours and the other being the revenge booer. A lot of the time the creator will listen to the feedback and fix something about the level but the player that booed and reviewed most likely wont come back to change their review to be applicable. This makes the level look worse than it is.2011-08-17 18:39:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548

I gave up caring about getting boo-ed after my first LBP2 level got one because someone was angry my stormtrooper was carrying a frying pan. At least he justified it I suppose. And there's going to be a frying pan in every single level I do from now on.2011-08-17 19:35:00

Author:
julesyjules
Posts: 1156

I don't know if I've ever received revenge boos, but I've certainly gotten the unexplained ones from people who don't have anything published. You are bound to get some boos either way and as long as you aren't booing tons of levels it really shouldn't be an issue. The revenge boo rate can't be anywhere near 100%.

@Dortr: I suppose I would be considered one of the "experienced players" you mention who doesn't rate often enough for your taste. I think it is essential to have people like you and people like me (and in-between) or every level would be hovering around 95% yay and 80% hearts, which sounds terribly inflated to me. We need the variation so that truly fantastic levels can stand out. Most people don't have time to play through a list of levels that everyone just thought took effort. Plus if you were guaranteed a good rating just for trying, would you strive to make your level perfect? There are certainly great creators out there who are self-motivated who would continue to create without special recognition, but fewer than we'd like to believe, I'd wager.		2011-08-17 19:47:00

Author:
silmedriel
Posts: 64

I don't rate levels that aren't even worth rating. It's better doing that than disliking a level, unless you want to upset an 9 year old child who will haunt you and ruin your level ratings for a long time. This is my reason for not rating sometimes (I rate levels most of the time).

Why do other people do it. There are many reasons and one of then is that some people simply don't care about rating. They just find it pointless. Some people even dislike a level, but they heart it, lol (happened to me).		2011-08-17 20:34:00

Author:
NeonSudagatz
Posts: 75

I've actually found myself booing more levels lately. Maybe it's because the community and the cool levels are becoming more retarded. :/2011-08-17 20:44:00

Author:
tanrockstan34
Posts: 1076

Yeah I would likely boo a lot if I played "cool" levels too.2011-08-17 21:06:00

Author:
silmedriel
Posts: 64

I don't know if I've ever received revenge boos, but I've certainly gotten the unexplained ones from people who don't have anything published. You are bound to get some boos either way and as long as you aren't booing tons of levels it really shouldn't be an issue. The revenge boo rate can't be anywhere near 100%.

@Dortr: I suppose I would be considered one of the "experienced players" you mention who doesn't rate often enough for your taste. I think it is essential to have people like you and people like me (and in-between) or every level would be hovering around 95% yay and 80% hearts, which sounds terribly inflated to me. We need the variation so that truly fantastic levels can stand out. Most people don't have time to play through a list of levels that everyone just thought took effort. Plus if you were guaranteed a good rating just for trying, would you strive to make your level perfect? There are certainly great creators out there who are self-motivated who would continue to create without special recognition, but fewer than we'd like to believe, I'd wager.

Granted i never Dive-in or play any level without checking out reviews, pics if there are any, and/or comments... Or unless i am asked.. So i don't really even play that much anyway. I'm just saying I think its kinda stupid when people hardly rate or often boo but play a lot. Its just like really? You hate everything or cant find anything you like?		2011-08-18 03:04:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548

In my honest opinion, people should refrain from publishing anything if they are going to make a level just for the heck of publishing it, not caring if it'll be enjoyed or not. And I don't mean the levels that are flawed because of the creator's inexperience. I don't boo levels where I see there was an effort in creating. I mean the kind of level where there isn't background, music, floor, basic layout and all the objects are from the story or randomly pulled off the inventory. If someone want to make a level at the very least put some effort in it instead of making something in 5 minutes.

Maybe the trophies are part of the problem. If there wasn't any trophy about creating a level or getting plays, people wouldn't publish crap and engage in H4H this much.		2011-08-18 05:31:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

Very true Snipy, create trophies are a likely cause imo.

I also don't boo levels made with effort, I just don't necessarily "like" a level because of it. I'm just saying I'm glad the non-rating is there.		2011-08-18 18:34:00

Author:
silmedriel
Posts: 64

there's going to be a frying pan in every single level I do from now on.

There are so many reasons that that statement is funny. The most annoying think I have come across was someone boo-ed a comment on my Community Fonts stage. The comment was from one of the creators of a substantial amount of the fonts.

I was well unimpressed. Especially considering there are only 6 boos out of 400+ plays I mean c'mon!		2011-08-31 11:54:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799

Maybe people don't rate to avoid the drama and *****ing that inevitably ensues. 2011-08-31 12:27:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

I will not rate if I didn't like it, not out of fear of revenge because I choose what I play pretty carefully and if the stage 'works', as in I can get from one end to the other, but it just isn't that good I would't feel right booing it.

I mean, effort was made. It's discouraging not getting ANY recognition, I think to myself "Your stuff isn't as good as the Mm picks but I can see you tried, and the more you create the better you will be. So I am recognising that you weny to some effort"

Sometimes I like to spend time in 'newly created' giving low play levels a chance.

If effort was made I will at least tag it and try to leave a short comment or review about what I did like, but never a boo. I think the harshest thing I can do is quit before the end, not rate comment or review, and that's for trap levels that are misrepresented.		2011-08-31 12:58:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799

I don't mind if someone doesn't rate and at times, wish some would never rate at all.

What's that!?!?!?

Seriously! For example.. I have one level that has quite a few yays and hardly any boos. To be honest, I can't imagine anyone not liking the thing and getting a chuckle out of it even if they suck terribly at playing it. Anyway.. I got curious and just happened to do a bit of searching on one such naysayer and found a pic of them they recently took with their PS3eye.


http://i0.lbp.me/img/ft/040bd77dcee60054883577b909f790805e501aa3.jpg


I got a good laugh out of that and hopefully puts things more in perspective that possibly those that don't rate or give you a frowny face, might just need their diaper changed or a nap. So like I say, those that are not rating might be a blessing in disguise. ..and always keep in mind that very young people are playing levels online and anything hard, regardless of your warnings, might play it and give it a boo. or a boo hoo hoo... 		2011-08-31 14:47:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

With the yay-to-play ratios on my levels currently being a little higher than 50%, I actually don't mind the frowny/neutral faces as much as I used to. Unless those ratings are accompanied with rude, demoralizing criticism, I usually just blow them off as them saying "Ehh...It just wasn't my thing." Of course, I'll continue to fix any bugs people find, but I've come to understand that you just can't please everyone no matter how hard you try; as long as there are a group of people who like my stuff, regardless of how small it is, then I'm fine.

I honestly cannot remember the last time I had booed a level. I just can't bring myself to do it nowadays no matter how terrible, offensive, and/or disgusting the level is. However, that may have stemmed from the knowledge that the message a boo sends to others is often misinterpreted and labeled as an "act of a troll." Plus, I don't like discouraging new creators from expressing their creativity with a mere sad face anyway. I fully agree with Arbiekko in the belief that the "boo" option should be removed, seeing as it does nothing but cause trouble to others... :/


I got a good laugh out of that and hopefully puts things more in perspective that possibly those that don't rate or give you a frowny face, might just need their diaper changed or a nap. So like I say, those that are not rating might be a blessing in disguise. ..and always keep in mind that very young people are playing levels online and anything hard, regardless of your warnings, might play it and give it a boo. or a boo hoo hoo...

That's the first thing that comes to mind whenever I see someone boo my level too

By the way, keep in mind that some of these people who "didnt rate the level" could have had other plans or maybe something had happened to them, prompting them to suddenly leave the game mid-level. I've noticed that to happen much more with levels which are entered by level links; players who have gone through an unexpected level link would most likely leave at the very beginning, resulting in giving an unintentional (or maybe intentional) "neutral" rating to the following level.

I still find it funny that people boo a level and then heart it afterwards. XD It puzzles me but I mostly assume it's accidental booing...		2011-08-31 15:47:00

Author:
Qrii_Nakari
Posts: 204

I don't mind if someone doesn't rate and at times, wish some would never rate at all.

What's that!?!?!?

Seriously! For example.. I have one level that has quite a few yays and hardly any boos. To be honest, I can't imagine anyone not liking the thing and getting a chuckle out of it even if they suck terribly at playing it. Anyway.. I got curious and just happened to do a bit of searching on one such naysayer and found a pic of them they recently took with their PS3eye.


http://i0.lbp.me/img/ft/040bd77dcee60054883577b909f790805e501aa3.jpg


I got a good laugh out of that and hopefully puts things more in perspective that possibly those that don't rate or give you a frowny face, might just need their diaper changed or a nap. So like I say, those that are not rating might be a blessing in disguise. ..and always keep in mind that very young people are playing levels online and anything hard, regardless of your warnings, might play it and give it a boo. or a boo hoo hoo...

lol who's that on the computer in the background?

I have had to deal with 4 trolls recently, one booed all of my levels and commented "loading" on them. JUST because i booed one of his levels. Another one decided to rate my level down AND get 2 of his friends to do so with unconstructive reviews SIMPLY because I booed one of his levels that was simlar, yet inferior to mine. :I
ANOTHER decided to once again boo and review most of my levels, because i beat him in a create mode battle when we were friends. He called me a jerk, a cheat and took out some object that crashed my game :/ Sorry if I sounded like I was ranting, but I REALLY had to get that off of my chest.

There should be an option to make your review anonymous, so that they can't come looking for you. Though I'm afraid that could be used very irresponsibly...		2011-08-31 15:56:00

Author:
Unknown User

By the way, keep in mind that some of these people who "didnt rate the level" could have had other plans or maybe something had happened to them, prompting them to suddenly leave the game mid-level. I've noticed that to happen much more with levels which are entered by level links; players who have gone through an unexpected level link would most likely leave at the very beginning, resulting in giving an unintentional (or maybe intentional) "neutral" rating to the following level.

Ooo, I hate it when in stead of a scoreboard they force you through a level link to another of their levels, it's so cheap! If I'm in a bit of a foul mood already that'll get them a boo right there.

This is probably my main reason for booing levels: when I feel I'm just being manipulated for more plays/yays/hearts.		2011-09-01 10:02:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284

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Behold, sackfolk, the new generation that will inherit Craftworld from us! This is the future of LBP! 		2011-09-01 15:08:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

I rate most of the levels I go on. But it takes a lot to impress me, but if the level's still nice, I just don't rate it at all.
I think if we had a middle ground rating, levels would get more ratings.		2011-09-01 18:32:00

Author:
Chdonga
Posts: 388

I don't rate a lot of levels. Usually if a level makes me chuckle, or does something different or fun I give it a yay. If it is put together well and polished, and meets the yay criteria, it will probably get a heart.

Most of the levels just don't do it for me though. They're not bad, but not good either. They're just like the other 8000 levels out there.

I'm a little more generous if I feel like it is a level that has been unfairly rated, and I can see some effort went into it. I hate when I see levels where there is obvious potential there with a lot of negative comments on them. That has to be so discouraging, so on those a lot of times I'll go ahead and heart it even if it isn't anything special.

As far as boos, I rarely do it. It's not fear of retaliation really. It's just that something has to be obviously haphazardly thrown together, incomplete, or full of obvious flaws for me to do something that effectively tells someone "this was a waste of time".

I would love to say that I don't care what my levels get but I would be lying. When I finally got my first boo on my last level, I was a little sad to see the streak end. I went to check who boo'd it, and found it was some guy that had played about 40 levels that day without booing a single one except mine, and some of the ones he played were pretty bad. I think he did it just to kill the streak. But then, what do you expect from someone with around 20 levels published with three plays each, and all but one of them named "Torture".		2011-09-01 20:06:00

Author:
tdarb
Posts: 689

I remember that some of my first boos i was actually quite curious about why the player didn't like them and left a comment on their profile asking if they would mind leaving feedback. I did it to try and make my stuff better, but never got a response. I also try to play any stage be someone that leaves a review on my levels.

So I got over it. If someone does boo me I. Usually look at their profile to see what they make and play and do actually like... So maybe I can alter something more to their liking. But usually they either have a locked LBP.me page, no levels with a profile written in 13 year old 'cool' speak and only seem to heart utter garbage like 10 different vending machine give away stages.		2011-09-02 04:01:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799

Seriously! For example.. I have one level that has quite a few yays and hardly any boos. To be honest, I can't imagine anyone not liking the thing and getting a chuckle out of it even if they suck terribly at playing it. Anyway.. I got curious and just happened to do a bit of searching on one such naysayer and found a pic of them they recently took with their PS3eye.


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Is that CountessZ? So...she finally grew up, huh? 		2011-09-02 13:44:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

Yeah, I have a pretty simple formula:

Yay + Heart + Review = Wow! One of my favorite levels of all time!
Yay + Heart = Loved it, 'nuff said
Yay + Review = Liked it, felt the need to comment
Yay = Liked it
Nothing = Not moved either way
Nothing + Review = Would have liked it, except for what I wrote in the review
Boo = Didn't like it at all
Boo + Review = Didn't like it and this is why (always constructive)

And that's pretty much it. My music level actually had some early boos (why, I have no idea) which kinda irked me, I can only assume some people stroll across my music level thinking it's going to be FFVII covers or something. I'm just thankful for the plays I get and it's given me the opportunity to do some work for other creators, which so far I've really enjoyed.		2011-09-02 14:10:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

Is that CountessZ? So...she finally grew up, huh?

Oh now... you know she is not a blonde!! Silly Ungreth!		2011-09-02 14:15:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Yeah, I have a pretty simple formula:

Yay + Heart + Review = Wow! One of my favorite levels of all time!
Yay + Heart = Loved it, 'nuff said
Yay + Review = Liked it, felt the need to comment
Yay = Liked it
Nothing = Not moved either way
Nothing + Review = Would have liked it, except for what I wrote in the review
Boo = Didn't like it at all
Boo + Review = Didn't like it and this is why (always constructive)

And that's pretty much it. My music level actually had some early boos (why, I have no idea) which kinda irked me, I can only assume some people stroll across my music level thinking it's going to be FFVII covers or something. I'm just thankful for the plays I get and it's given me the opportunity to do some work for other creators, which so far I've really enjoyed.

What do you make of Boo + Heart ?

I only give comments when I think something was amazing or when I think something could do with some improvements. I don't leave reviews, but maybe heart those I agree with. Again, only when I liked the level enough to look at other peoples comments/reviews.
I heart those levels I feel like I might want to play them again at some point. I don't think I've ever given a Boo, but that's because I only play levels that I see being recommended on Twitter and are thus naturally already good. If I would use the Dive In feature I might give a frowny if I end up in a trophy level or something like that.
More often than not I simply forget to give a smily when I enjoyed a level.		2011-09-02 14:53:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

What do you make of Boo + Heart ?


Boo + Heart = I've been drinking

2011-09-02 15:20:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


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