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Is LBP2 dying? (Mm ditched it?)

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I know that Mm is working on a mysterious new game, and if it's a kinda adult version of LBP but in full 3D or something like that it would be truly amazing. But Mm hasn't done anything related to LBP2 for.. like a really long time. Maybe like a month or two...

It mainly affects the Mm pick system.. I knew the Mm pick system was never good to begin with, but now they're picking nothing at all. I know i'm saying this because personally i published my level around that time, i do strongly believe that it is Mm pick worthy, but quite alot of awesome stuff was released ever since they left aswell.

There is rarely ever a good level on the "cool" pages, and the Mm pick system is stuck with the same levels on the top. There is nothing to do community-wise in the game, the only reason to still play is the create mode. Even well known creators most of the time barely get plays on their publishings anymore.

Personally, i'm working on a project, and i will continue to work on it (probably). But i think it's just tragic that the community has downgraded so much. Mm always had problems managing the community, ever since LBP1, they have no real "community vision" and randomly abandon the game for a year, as they did in LBP1.

LBP1 started to die only about 2,5 years after it's release, the community was reduced by 50%, Mm didn't pick any level for over a year and stopped focusing on it while they made LBP2.
But LBP2 has come out only 7 months ago and the exact same thing is about to happen.

Since MM is working on this sooo much superior game, they don't consider it neccessary to go back and check what is going on in LBP2. It would be like asking you, an LBP2 player, to go play LBP1.It would be just so outdated and inferiour in comparision, and you just wouldn't want to waste time with it.
But as for the community itself, we don't have the reach of that game, nor even know it's identity. LBP2 is still the newest we have, but the creators simply abandoned it.

Personally i was really striving for an Mm pick, and i know other people who do aswell, but Mm doesn't seem to pay attention to anything LBP-related. I'm not trying to whine or anything but i just estimate, in a kinda mature way, that my level is worthy of an Mm pick and deserves the recognition and the honour of having one.

I do still play LBP almost every day and so, but it just isn't the same, and 99% of the time i spend it in create mode, because there just isn't anything to do, and the community is just horrible.		2011-08-09 02:26:00

Author:
thi766
Posts: 135

Oh thi, still crying over no MM Pick? Nah, I kid I kid.

But anyways, I'd rather think of it as more and more immature brats are jumping the train as the mature, dedicated ones are left behind, until you have relatively less nubs and more useful/skilled/respectful creators, and even if trolls like... well I'm not gonna point fingers, but if they stay it's more likely that the remaining people are smart enough to rebel or ignore

My friend Jet lost hope for the community (even he considered as if MM left us for dead... tsk, I know MM won't forget us, but he's faithless now...), but I hardly gave a crud 'bout it ever since the Cool Pages had bomb survival spam. (Though the beta cool pages were actually awesome, maybe LBP2 will eventually become that way again. Dunno.)		2011-08-09 02:37:00

Author:
Fang
Posts: 578

Not to mention the level got modded for the worst reason ever.
I'm still going to play lbp everyday even without MM. Its super fun to play, create, and share.
I think what fang said is right. I mean back when the scoreboard worked and I played story levels and MM picks I could see at least 8 of my psn friends had played that level. Nowadays, only one of them still plays lbp. Good thing I made some new friends lol. But the talent of the people that stayed with the game is super high. I mean you are making rpg's. And at least we have this website spotlighting great levels and there are creators doing their best to highlight great levels, so even without the MM picks or cool levels we still have resources to find fun levels.

So Idk if I'd say lbp is dying, but even if it was dead, I'd still play it every day.		2011-08-09 03:03:00

Author:
CardboardBoxMan
Posts: 60

I was wondering what's been going on with the MM pick situation, as well as the Cool Pages. I try to steer clear of that section because it's usually just the same bomb survival/costume levels. Occasionally i will find a real gem on the Cool Pages, but that's a rarity. There's also not as many people online anymore. When I first got this game, it peaked well over 20,000 players, but now the most I ever see at one time is maybe 16,000. It's just really frustrating even trying to create a new level, knowing full well that it's going to get next to no plays, while these total junk levels are getting play after play. I just hope this all gets better, and quick!2011-08-09 03:20:00

Author:
InfiniteTwilight
Posts: 159

First of all MM didn't left us and won't leave us, you guys takes things too suiriesly yes they said that they working on new game.... but as a reaminder they worked on LBP2 when you enjoyed LBP1 and people been saying how sequel would be useless. 2nd MM working hard on Move pack that coming this september (did we just talk about MM abending LBP? lol) which will bering huge update even for free

Now community condition, we currently on vacation session and people spending more time for real life then masteing time sitting on TV, there activity downfall not only in LBP but whole game industry, gaming sites on my coutry call this period a cucumber session. Next look on google trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=littlebigplanet

As you can see LBP popularaty is on good condition as it always been

again, i wish MM could stay shut about there new project and that they supposedly "leaveing away" LBP, because as always over-reactive over-emotional impulsive LBP community turn this to mythological stories about apocalypse disaster where (here best quote about this topic i heared) "MM drop balls over IP".... which is nothing more then overall BS		2011-08-09 04:20:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

Mm has everything but abandoned LBP2. They said it themselves. They won't just drop it and reach for the newer game. They're just very busy. Sure, the community went down a bit faster than in the first game, but that's because it's a sequel. People will run faster to the second game. Don't worry, LBP2 still has hope. It's the funnest game ever.
2011-08-09 04:28:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195

Ok seresly think if they really leave LBP2, what poor Spaff gonna do which he only do PR stuff in MM if he can't talk about new game? ;p he gonna be bored to death2011-08-09 04:34:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

They haven't ditched it...less than 2 weeks ago they flew spaff and johnee to the LBP Community Meetup and showed off the Move Pack which still ISN'T out, so therfore they could be hidden away working on that as we speak!2011-08-09 05:02:00

Author:
fodawim
Posts: 363

I don't know.. LBP2 does somehow feel "less alive" than LBP did.

It's difficult to put my finger on - I have no evidence to support my theory - it's just an over-all 'feeling' I get from LBP2.

They have diverged the community into LBP1 & LBP2. And LBP2 seems to be less popular than LBP.

I still think they should have just UBER patched LBP1; after all - LBP2 did start as DLC.

I guess I'm just feeling a bit fatigued myself, that I've been working on a level since the BETA, and no matter how much work I put into it - I always seem to be "about 3/4's" finished... but never 'quite' there. (also add that I've had to rebuild it from scratch 3 times due to YolD's/Beta etc).

And seeing the amount of plays, that levels far better than my own, get... I'm wondering wether it's worth the effort(of course it is!).
I mean, I still love LBP - but i think the General Malaise is starting to set in.		2011-08-09 05:02:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Oh great, another butthurt conspiracy thread. Well, instead letting this horrible idea for a thread die, I think I'll contribute to it with my own opinions so that we can finally have something to go on, more than likely you guys flaming me.


I know that Mm is working on a mysterious new game, and if it's a kinda adult version of LBP but in full 3D or something like that it would be truly amazing. But Mm hasn't done anything related to LBP2 for.. like a really long time. Maybe like a month or two...

They're busy; they have lives of their own; they can't please everyone.


It mainly affects the Mm pick system.. I knew the Mm pick system was never good to begin with, but now they're picking nothing at all. I know i'm saying this because personally i published my level around that time, i do strongly believe that it is Mm pick worthy, but quite alot of awesome stuff was released ever since they left aswell.

It's a luxury, so while it's sad it a dying feature, at least they happy enough to start it, where as other game developers could care less what people make with their game unless it hurts their wallets.


There is rarely ever a good level on the "cool" pages, and the Mm pick system is stuck with the same levels on the top. There is nothing to do community-wise in the game, the only reason to still play is the create mode. Even well known creators most of the time barely get plays on their publishings anymore.

And that is why we have fansites: to help creators get more plays and the credit they deserve. Cool pages was made to show the trending levels at the given moment. It's a friendly way to tell you what everybody is playing. And no, all LBPs in general is not for you to get a bunch of hearts to brag to your friends about; it's about getting a bunch of hearts to brag to your friends about WHILE having fun with them on the game, hence the "Play" in "Play. Create. Share".


Personally, i'm working on a project, and i will continue to work on it (probably). But i think it's just tragic that the community has downgraded so much. Mm always had problems managing the community, ever since LBP1, they have no real "community vision" and randomly abandon the game for a year, as they did in LBP1.

No, they decided to work on a new game because people kept complaining (like how you're complaining right now) how they needed a new, organized community with better tools and thermometer because LBP1 couldn't handle it. LBP2 is an upgraded version of the community, but you're right: it's still not perfect. However, instead of wasting your time blaming Mm for our faulted community, you should actually try contribute and help make the community better. Mm didn't make the community how it is, we did.


LBP1 started to die only about 2,5 years after it's release, the community was reduced by 50%, Mm didn't pick any level for over a year and stopped focusing on it while they made LBP2.
But LBP2 has come out only 7 months ago and the exact same thing is about to happen.

I assume you mean 2.5 years? Learn to use decimals correctly; if you're going to make a thread "attacking" a community and/or a game, make sure you have proper grammar and no spelling mistakes, because not only no one will take you seriously but they will also use it against you.


Since MM is working on this sooo much superior game, they don't consider it neccessary to go back and check what is going on in LBP2. It would be like asking you, an LBP2 player, to go play LBP1.It would be just so outdated and inferiour in comparision, and you just wouldn't want to waste time with it.
But as for the community itself, we don't have the reach of that game, nor even know it's identity. LBP2 is still the newest we have, but the creators simply abandoned it.

Well consider this: Mm didn't even want to make LBP2, yet they still did. You should at least be thankful of that instead of criticizing them for not sticking to it. It's like me asking you to make a drawing, and while you like making drawings, you're getting tired of making the EXACT same drawing over and over again for me, so of course you're going to want to "abandon" me.


Personally i was really striving for an Mm pick, and i know other people who do aswell, but Mm doesn't seem to pay attention to anything LBP-related. I'm not trying to whine or anything but i just estimate, in a kinda mature way, that my level is worthy of an Mm pick and deserves the recognition and the honour of having one.


http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/876/ohboyherewego.jpg

And just when it couldn't get any better, another reason why I left the PS3 side and why I love ranting in these stupid threads....

Instead of sticking with the cold hard facts you made up, you decided to slip in your level and opinion together, a deadly combination. At this point, I disregard your excuse-for-no-lock pleas of "I'm just saying" statements because I can already tell you really are complaining that Mm didn't pick your level, and you're mad that they won't even consider playing it.

While I would love to tell you how clumsy you were revealing your real purpose of this thread, this quote is more fun to ridicule:


I do still play LBP almost every day and so, but it just isn't the same, and 99% of the time i spend it in create mode, because there just isn't anything to do, and the community is just horrible.

So, you strike out Play to make room for Create and Share, just to reach your fame, but when Mm finally decides to move on with their lives, you get angry because you lost your shot at your goal. I applaud you for coming in here and claiming how you worry about the community when you just admitted you hate it, you find it boring, and what you really want is an answer to your fail attempt to become known in it. My best advice to you will be to stop moaning and actually talk to the people who play the game instead of Creating majority of the time and try-hard your way into popularity. If you're going to be stubborn and still try to blame Mm, the community, or even me for your fail status, then I lose all hope in your redemption after this thread's abused message.

I'm glad we had this chat. Have fun. <3		2011-08-09 05:05:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I'll try to explain the current situation to the best of my understanding.

Mm is shifting development focus to a new title, so obviously they can't devote as many resources to LBP as they have in the past. This includes their community team (and Mm Picks, and other community-ish things). However, that doesn't mean they're abandoning it. After the Move Pack, I doubt we'll see any more LBP2 DLC developed by Mm themselves, but I can guarantee you there are some sort of plans to continue supporting the LBP community. Considering Sony owns the IP, I'd say it's very likely that Mm will pass the ball to them, but at this point there's no way to know for sure. One thing we do know: LBP is a highly successful franchise for Sony. One way or another, they'll make sure it continues to exist and be supported.

(Keep in mind, this is all just educated guesswork, so take it with a grain of salt.)		2011-08-09 05:10:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

First of all MM didn't left us and won't leave us.

...

i wish MM could stay shut about there new project and that they supposedly "leaveing away" LBP, because as always over-reactive over-emotional impulsive LBP community turn this to mythological stories about apocalypse disaster where (here best quote about this topic i heared) "MM drop balls over IP".... which is nothing more then overall BS

Exactly!

Posting that they were "stepping away" on the Media Molecule blog only created superficial panic and speculation.

As for no longer having the opportunity to be Picked, just because the judges walk away from the beauty pageant doesn't mean you're not pretty. So to speak. Don't let their very infrequent and subjective hand-of-god touch style list be the reason you publish a level. But that really needn't be spelled out, right?

As Shadowriver and then ConfusedCartman said, the game is nowhere near dying. And whatever Mm decides, Sony makes the real decisions. They invested in it, they want to see it continue, and so do Mm. It's just going to get help from other folks now. The servers aren't getting shut down, moderation isn't going soft, and DLC is continuously being released. When those three are no longer true, then it's time to start wondering if the game has been abandoned. And EVEN STILL, there's all the people who enjoy it and who keep the community alive. We can find other servers and share levels in other ways. It's a game built for exactly that.		2011-08-09 05:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

Exactly.
So after the Move Pack (which I'm quite looking forward to by the way); We won't see any more innovative or original features be added to the game.
From then on it'll just be a steady stream of cash-cow costume bundles made by Tarsier 		2011-08-09 05:23:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Exactly.
So after the Move Pack (which I'm quite looking forward to by the way); We won't see any more innovative or original features be added to the game.
From then on it'll just be a steady stream of cash-cow costume bundles made by Tarsier
Not exactly. Look, Mm is amazing, but they're not crucial to quality LBP content. Did you know almost all of the DLC developed for LBP1 (level packs included) was produced by developers other than Mm? You don't need Mm to produce great LBP content - you just need a talented group of people who understand LBP's vision and is willing to meet certain standards. Sony and Mm are smart. One way or another, they'll make sure LBP has the lifespan it deserves.		2011-08-09 06:12:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

If you really want to know more, there's bound to be info on this somewhere around the forums. I've seen around ten different threads about this subject. Good luck

I LOVE USING THAT.		2011-08-09 06:14:00

Author:
Sackpapoi
Posts: 1195

Not exactly. Look, Mm is amazing, but they're not crucial to quality LBP content. Did you know almost all of the DLC developed for LBP1 (level packs included) was produced by developers other than Mm? You don't need Mm to produce great LBP content - you just need a talented group of people who understand LBP's vision and is willing to meet certain standards. Sony and Mm are smart. One way or another, they'll make sure LBP has the lifespan it deserves.

Yup, Sony and Mm are Smart - in that they know people are stupid.
If they can just keep adding another ?5 costume pack every 2nd week - they will see that as "Community Support".

But I think the core community wants a bit more than just more costumes.

If you look at the game LBP was when it started - and what it is now - they are nearly two different games; they fixed/added ALOT of stuff.
I can't really see them adding anything to LBP2 if it doesn't come with a price tag - especially now that Sony are in charge

It's not impossible that they'll do just as good a job of it - if not better. But I'm a natural cynic/skeptic		2011-08-09 06:30:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

No matter what Mm is doing, or what everyone thinks, my opinion is that LBP2 is not dying. As Shadowriver said, they have started work on a new IP, so not as much time can be directed towards LBP. When the time does come that Mm stop supporting LBP, that still doesn't mean it's dead. LBP2 will only die if we, the community, let it, and with quality creators still publishing levels, I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.

Edit: Also, let's stop posting these "LBP2 is dying oh noes" threads, shall we?		2011-08-09 07:26:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631

i want to voice an annoying inacurate oppinion/end of the world prophecy as well!!!11!! jk, no, but really. something has changed, in that the comunity that started it all with the most amazing ideas etc. have begun to move away from lbp and onto there real life. also the huge influx of younger audiences. MM had no power over cool levels, they just kind of let the comunity run it. and having a comunity of kids who are more interested in CALL OF DUTYZ and violence, but forced to play a peacefull game about creating and be fun and fair, they are naturaly try to just get some quick fame (ie h4h and copy pubbing) then to enjoy the fruitful endeavors of creating your own genuinly intricate level. that being said, those levels "highlighting" other comunity levels? they add to the spam sadly, i like what there doing, but its an equivlent of ANTI H4H CLAN GIVE MEH HEARTS TO PREVENT THEM IF YOU DONT LIKE THEM, and plus the random comunity like levels sadly are biased, because seeing as how one person on his own usually only plays friends levels. now people will say, that spotlight is biased, but as far as im concerned. its rather nice to see an MM pick approach, and to be true. i would rather have MM transfer control of mm picks to the spotlight crew 2011-08-09 07:57:00

Author:
dragonights
Posts: 209

Yup, Sony and Mm are Smart - in that they know people are stupid.
If they can just keep adding another ?5 costume pack every 2nd week - they will see that as "Community Support".

But I think the core community wants a bit more than just more costumes.

You're dead on the money there.


If you look at the game LBP was when it started - and what it is now - they are nearly two different games; they fixed/added ALOT of stuff.
I can't really see them adding anything to LBP2 if it doesn't come with a price tag - especially now that Sony are in charge

But they know that'll kill the community, so they'll visit LBP once in a while to update it if needed. Warhawk's developers visit the game once in a while as well, and it was released in 07!


It's not impossible that they'll do just as good a job of it - if not better. But I'm a natural cynic/skeptic

And that's why I love you. <3		2011-08-09 08:25:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Wow... most I repeat myself again a 3th time about this subject? xD

Stepping away does not = no longer supporting LBP.
where do some of you people learn to read? MM already said
they won't be stopping support for LBP.
they are just not putting as much attention as they were before on it.
and you guys do know that It's not even the main MM group themselves
most of the time who fixes the bugs and makes most of our DLC right?
that's a different sub-team that do it from what i heard.
basically LBP will be supported mainly by all the
different sub-teams from now on. So you guys need to stop your worrying so much.
*mew

And ConfusedCartman~ Everything you said makes the most sense. I 100% agree with ya.

really people? MM never said they'll stop support for LBP....
What is with always wanting to think the worse and take something they say as far
the wrong way as possible? :S

All of these LBP is dieing topics are getting old fast. no, they are already old.
they are always built on poor rumors and even more poor guess work.
it's getting really annoying.

As long as we the community stay with LBP. then LBP will stay alive.
LBP is a community based game after all~

Plus even If LBP ended up never being made By MM ever again. New LBP games And DLC
will always be made because Sony who now owns it Won't let it die.
*mew		2011-08-09 09:18:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

I assume you mean 2.5 years? Learn to use decimals correctly; if you're going to make a thread "attacking" a community and/or a game, make sure you have proper grammar and no spelling mistakes, because not only no one will take you seriously but they will also use it against you.

Actually, in most European countries they replace a full stop in a decimal with a comma. As with money (you often see prices being set out like 3,50?). And seeing as his timezone is GMT+1 I'm guessing he's somewhere in Europe.


As for my views on the topic at hand, I don't think Mm will truly 'ditch' us. A few of the team have gone away to work on another game, but people like Spaff and Johnee (once he gets back from his extrepedations of course!) whose job it is to work with the community (I think they're the ones who d the Picks, correct?) will stay.		2011-08-09 09:35:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

This includes their community team (and Mm Picks, and other community-ish things).

So you telling that unannounced game got some community.... How?		2011-08-09 15:37:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

people tend to forget that MM is a small team so they need all the help they can get from tarsier,sony,etc.
MM is really small compared to other devs.
also ,Thi it does feel like you only care about YOUR levels getting mmpicks.		2011-08-09 15:43:00

Author:
majormel84
Posts: 398

Okay... I didn't except this thread to get so many replies so quickly. I'l try my best to reply to most, but i want to reply particulary to the Cyber Sora one, since it kinda offended me.

Also i know that there are still quite alot people playing the game, and that Mm will obviously come back to it from time to time. But some of the most important community features that Mm implemented in the game requires the developpers themselves to be actually active within the game itself, and they abandoning it just leaves them broken and incomplete.
If they want to abandon the Mm pick system, they may aswell remove it from the game, because there is no point in keeping a system that is broken and unfair to the community.

(Ps: English isn't my first language so please forgive me for that)





It's a luxury, so while it's sad it a dying feature, at least they happy enough to start it, where as other game developers could care less what people make with their game unless it hurts their wallets.

Yeah, but they started it, and if they truly care about it, then they would do either two things: continue it, or just delete it. Again it's just broken and just kinda harms the game now unless they continue it. Keeping it there just makes people think that they still care for it when they don't, or don't have the time or good enough organisation.


And that is why we have fansites: to help creators get more plays and the credit they deserve. Cool pages was made to show the trending levels at the given moment. It's a friendly way to tell you what everybody is playing. And no, all LBPs in general is not for you to get a bunch of hearts to brag to your friends about; it's about getting a bunch of hearts to brag to your friends about WHILE having fun with them on the game, hence the "Play" in "Play. Create. Share".

Who said anything about bragging about hearts?????
I'm not trying to center this thread too much around me, but I did state that i was upset that Mm doesn't pick levels anymore, under wich is also mine that i consider Mm pick worthy (mainly because i spent over 5 months on it and pretty much everyone loved it). So while i was straving for it, it's not because of the hearts, or at leasts not them as a currency in number or anything, because i don't view them as such. I view them more as a form of respect, and i think my levels deserves it. I did see how Mm reacted, and loved creations in the game that were really similar to mine, but less good, and i think that they would, well, pretty much love mine, and i would be extrememly happy and honoured if they would..
If they played it that is..


No, they decided to work on a new game because people kept complaining (like how you're complaining right now) how they needed a new, organized community with better tools and thermometer because LBP1 couldn't handle it. LBP2 is an upgraded version of the community, but you're right: it's still not perfect. However, instead of wasting your time blaming Mm for our faulted community, you should actually try contribute and help make the community better. Mm didn't make the community how it is, we did.

People weren't really complaining (or did they?), but yeah Mm made LBP2 because LBP1 was dying out and becoming repetitive. The quality of the community levels have pretty much reached it's limits and everything has been done before. Poeple found abuse on the cool pages and they became the worst spam-fest in any game ever.
Most people quit the game, and people needed something fresh, and new, and Mm made LBP2. But even before that, they had in mind to make LBP2. And i wouldn't say they forced themeselves out of business reasons, in my opinion it looks like they had ALOT of fun making the game.
They did abandon LBP1 for over a year, and this is where everything started going downhill. LBP was a game that required the developpers to interact with the game regularily, new glitches are found every months and so that need to be fixed, spammers took over the game and it started to suck. ALOT.
And the same "symtoms" are now starting to happen in LBP2..

Also Mm IS partly responsible, if i was apart of Mm i would suggest these ideas only to mention them:
- Making the like/dislike ratio aswell as the heart/play ratio the most important thing to rise up cool pages, makes sure only quality are on top and prevents spam and poor quality levels
- If you're keeping the Mm pick system, ant least have a couple people come back at least for an hour or so every once in a week to check on it sometimes. (EVEN if you're making another game)

You say instead of complaining we should start "making the community better". But the cause it sucks is the system itself, and unless we're Mm, we can't fix it. I'm trying to send a message, so that people can understand. Maybe then, maybe, Mm will see it too. I thought it was worth a try. What do you suggest?


I assume you mean 2.5 years? Learn to use decimals correctly; if you're going to make a thread "attacking" a community and/or a game, make sure you have proper grammar and no spelling mistakes, because not only no one will take you seriously but they will also use it against you.

Okay, this obviously has no relevance to anything in the topic, and is your first failed cruel attempt in this post to "own" me.
But in Germany aswell as probably most of Europe you actually use commas for decimal numbers. And not everyone in this site is from USA or UK, most people are actually from other countries aswell. English isn't even my first language, it's more something like my 3rd language... (i'm still learning it in school), but i guess that gives me less right to open my opinions and to be taken seriously... -_-


Well consider this: Mm didn't even want to make LBP2, yet they still did. You should at least be thankful of that instead of criticizing them for not sticking to it. It's like me asking you to make a drawing, and while you like making drawings, you're getting tired of making the EXACT same drawing over and over again for me, so of course you're going to want to "abandon" me.

I can see little assimilation to the drawing part with LBP2. LBP2 is NOT the exact same thing as LBP1, it is for the most part like LBP2, but the tools are completely different and new. If Mm "didn't want" to make LBP2, then what else would they have wanted to make?? LBP was the only franchise they had until the mysterious one from recently.



http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/876/ohboyherewego.jpg

And just when it couldn't get any better, another reason why I left the PS3 side and why I love ranting in these stupid threads....

Instead of sticking with the cold hard facts you made up, you decided to slip in your level and opinion together, a deadly combination. At this point, I disregard your excuse-for-no-lock pleas of "I'm just saying" statements because I can already tell you really are complaining that Mm didn't pick your level, and you're mad that they won't even consider playing it.



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...... Okay.

Wait.

Okay.. As soon as i saw that picture i knew there was something wrong.
So you "left the PS3 side".. and the only reason you read this was because you wanted to attempt to cruely attack me, "own" me, and ridiculise my ideas for your "entertainement".
Im really dissapointed that i spent about an hour replying to you and your failed attempts, especially because i wanted this thread to be taken seriously. But i guess there's no avoiding this, especially since if i wouldn't reply you'd probably think that i was crying from your post, and that i am like speechless or something.

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Okay...
It's quite obvious that my dissapointement of my level not being played/picked by Mm was one of the main inspirations encouraging me to write this. I didn't try to hide this somewhere in the end of the post nor keep it secret, i already wrote about all that in the introduction of the post itself. But i also didn't want to center the thread too much around myself, i just wanted to use myself as an example to many people who are in the same situation, and to focus on presenting my "problems" with the current state of the game.
I don't see how it supposed to be unnatural, or even embarressing to be dissapointed about that. I mean Mm has picked RPG levels in the past, and in my humble opinion (and most who played it), mine is much greater and more unique, and Mm would love to see it and how it used LBP2's editor..

Anyway just take that smiling dude somewhere else, because he has no point, and it's actually pretty sad that you enjoy dissing innocent people so much using pretextes.


So, you strike out Play to make room for Create and Share, just to reach your fame, but when Mm finally decides to move on with their lives, you get angry because you lost your shot at your goal. I applaud you for coming in here and claiming how you worry about the community when you just admitted you hate it, you find it boring, and what you really want is an answer to your fail attempt to become known in it. My best advice to you will be to stop moaning and actually talk to the people who play the game instead of Creating majority of the time and try-hard your way into popularity. If you're going to be stubborn and still try to blame Mm, the community, or even me for your fail status, then I lose all hope in your redemption after this thread's abused message.

I stroke out (for the most part) Play, because there just isn't barely anything to play. I really don't care for "fame" anymore, but i spent ridiculously much time, effort and thoughts into my work, and i feel like it deserves to be recognised by Mm, and the community. If they would actually play it, and not even pick it because they wouldn't think it's worthy, then i would still be happy. I just feel like people's (great and passionate creators)' hard work deserves to be.. well.. payed off, but in this community it doesn't anymore.

The community has never been perfect, there has always been people one may consider "nuubs" or "spammers", but now they've basically become the "image" of the community, while many great creations remain unknown. So of course i can not "love" the community, as much as i wish to be able to do.

I don't create because i want to become famous in the game and stuff, i create most stuff in LBP2 because it is a hobby of mine and i'm really passionate. Maybe that's also why i'm so sad at the community's current status.
While i used to spend more time back in LBP1 to also play levels apart from creating, there just is barely anything likewise to do anymore.

And i'd hardly consider my status "fail" as you say. I'm proud an compassionate about what i have created, i just feel like it deserves... more recognition. That's all.

I just want to say that i have high hopes for that new Mm game, and i hope it's a creative community game like LBP but.. more adult. But i'm also a tad worried what will happen to LBP..		2011-08-09 15:58:00

Author:
thi766
Posts: 135

Just curious. If ya''ll were builders or carpenters and bought all your tools from Mm. Seeing how we have virtual, unending amounts of material for our creations, what else do you need from Mm to create your own amazing buildings and homes?

When I was a kid, I had one large can of Lincoln Logs and aside from the cars or other stuff I would add to my creations from my toy collection, I didn't need ANY DLC to keep building and having tons of fun.

You seriously don't need anything else to keep pushing the envelope. We did it in LBP1 with much less. Time and patience is really the only thing you are missing. So in the words of a former boss.. Sit down, shut up and create. 		2011-08-09 16:09:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Ok, first... @Cyber... seriously? Like, seriously? Do you really have to be that dickish? I mean, really?

And yes, I would agree that MM jumping to another game already is abandoning LBP2. LBP is not a game that can just be over and done with... Ideally, it shouldn't even be a game at all. It should be thought of more as an engine of sorts, and the developers should keep supporting it. You can say they're "Busy" or whatever... but they have freaking community managers for a reason. They can afford to go on and check the MM Picks. I mean, what the **** are their jobs if not to interact with the community?

Maybe it has something to do with MM selling out to Sony. Probably does. But a game like this shouldn't be something where the creators can just move on and expect the community to take care of itself. Maybe having a game that would require this must effort by the development staff would never work on a console and by a big company only interested in profits. But seriously, if you're actually saying that MM should be excused from picking MM Picks just because they are creating an entire new game already... This thread is really just sickening.		2011-08-09 16:36:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

this thread makes me wonder if hardcore fans of rag doll kung fu were freaking out over the fact MM is making a different game.
like what i said before,MM is a small team.
and i understand cyber soras frustration simply because well,the lbp community is kinda....on life support???
idk how to describe it but whatever.		2011-08-09 17:06:00

Author:
majormel84
Posts: 398

If MM is really ditching us or just on a difficult transition phase that converged with the "down season" and the discovery of nasty glitches, only time will tell. They could give a sign of life though. "Hey guys, we know the community is going through hard times but rest assured,we're taking care of everything, don't give up on us now". We haven't seen a MM pick in two months and a meaningful update in ages, the "news" section of the recent activity has had only two news since LBP2 started...

There's no communication here. It's like mommy and daddy divorcing all over again 		2011-08-09 18:25:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

LBP2?! DYING?!?! MM DITCHED IT?!?!?! PARENTHESIS?!?!?! IS?!?!?!?

No but seriously guys, don't worry too much about it. I just saw Spaff playing some levels after a month of not playing anything.

http://lbp.me/u/Spaff_Molecule

I think they were just on vacation or maybe just involved with some other stuff. But I think MM are keeping quiet because if they were busy, they know people will just go around and bug them about everything they're doing. They have a lot going on right now if you think about it and it best they just try to focus on getting things done rather than spend time trying to calm "the riots" down. I'd rather them speak with content than with words.

2011-08-09 18:57:00

Author:
comishguy67
Posts: 849

Toy Story just came out.. Move pack as well as a few freebie DLC's coming soon. I just saw Spaff a few weeks ago after him and johnee traveled across the pond just to be with us in St Louis. Serious talk about an upcoming meet in UK ..and on top of all that we should have a patch here in a few weeks to again shut down some glitches running around here.

So seriously, what part of all that says they abandoned us? Do you all need daily counseling or something? I dunno anymore.. maybe parents should hug their children more these days or something. Just seems everyone has to have everything NOW!! lol

Maybe y'all need a cookie!
http://www.thefoodsection.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/09/cookie.jpg		2011-08-09 19:02:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

This topic will end up "like why we need sequel to LBP" topic.... looking on the thread and wondering what you guys been talking about back then ;p2011-08-09 19:25:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

Ok i'm sorry.. maybe i was a bit too hard on Mm.
I'm glad to see that Spaff has been on LBP recently, and i hope they will continue to do so from time to time..

I know they are busy working on that new game, and i do expect it to be awesome (they're Media Molecule after all), but maybe in the future they shoud consider having at least a few people checking on their active games from time to time (maybe like 1 hour once a week to check on LBP is all that is needed)...

Maybe "dying" wasn't the right word.
But the community is definitely.. well.. degrading.		2011-08-09 20:59:00

Author:
thi766
Posts: 135

I'd say 5 partner companies looking after us is better than 1.2011-08-09 22:10:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918

They arn't leaving, they're just taking time off 2011-08-10 00:46:00

Author:
zzmorg82
Posts: 948

I'm trying to remember the old saying: It'll get worse before it gets better. But I'm starting to lose hope. some of the....(moments like these i wish i could swear on here)er, crappier levels on the cool pages, especially the crown and dlc glitch levels, it's just crushing us. What must the big name creators be thinking right now? What must MM be thinking? Did they abandon us until the community becomes better?

Wish us luck,
flyinhawaiian 		2011-08-10 01:39:00

Author:
flyinhawaiian
Posts: 357

I'm trying to remember the old saying: It'll get worse before it gets better. But I'm starting to lose hope. some of the....(moments like these i wish i could swear on here)er, crappier levels on the cool pages, especially the crown and dlc glitch levels, it's just crushing us. What must the big name creators be thinking right now? What must MM be thinking? Did they abandon us until the community becomes better?

Wish us luck,
flyinhawaiian

ROFL!! Oh now... don't you think that is a bit too much drama? Read my above post (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=61431-Is-LBP2-dying-%28Mm-ditched-it-%29&p=905885&viewfull=1#post905885) and have a cookie. 		2011-08-10 02:06:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

crappier levels on the cool pages, especially the crown and dlc glitch levels, it's just crushing us. What must the big name creators be thinking right now? What must MM be thinking?

I'd guess they're thinking it's business as usual... Look for forum discussions from 1 year ago about the cool pages. Look back 2 years... It's always been crappy and people have always been complaining about them being crappy. Amazing how it's always taken as a sign of the end times. Surely if the end times were upon us for the last two years, they'd have had the decency to actually end by now, right? 		2011-08-10 06:37:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Yes, Mm ditched LBP. It's all over. There will never be another Mm pick Spaff and Tom have been locked in the stationary cupboard. If you're making a level now don't bother there won't be anyone to play it by next week, we're all doomed HAPPY NOW?!2011-08-10 07:53:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

These types of threads simply remind me of all of those silly theories of the world coming to the end, which always turns out to be false. I wonder if this related somehow?

LBP isn't dying, alright? Just wait til' Move is out, and we'll all see what the community looks like then. I guarantee it'll be much more lively.		2011-08-10 08:07:00

Author:
Shadowstarkirby
Posts: 205

Yes, Mm ditched LBP. It's all over. There will never be another Mm pick Spaff and Tom have been locked in the stationary cupboard. If you're making a level now don't bother there won't be anyone to play it by next week, we're all doomed HAPPY NOW?!
Oh, thank you. You've released me from the stress of making an awesome new level, regardless of whether MM makes dlc I never buy, or picks levels I never pay attention to.

Thank you for saving me from the incredible task of making a new game, within a game full of creativity and endless possibilities.

Thank you, even though the servers are likely going to stay up for a very long time, and Sony would never fully abandon one of their most successful new IPs, I can now rest easy knowing I need never play this game again.		2011-08-10 08:08:00

Author:
SSTAGG1
Posts: 1136

Oh, thank you. You've released me from the stress of making an awesome new level, regardless of whether MM makes dlc I never buy, or picks levels I never pay attention to.

Thank you for saving me from the incredible task of making a new game, within a game full of creativity and endless possibilities.

Thank you, even though the servers are likely going to stay up for a very long time, and Sony would never fully abandon one of their most successful new IPs, I can now rest easy knowing I need never play this game again.
You're welcome. 		2011-08-10 08:15:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

You seriously don't need anything else to keep pushing the envelope. We did it in LBP1 with much less. Time and patience is really the only thing you are missing. So in the words of a former boss.. Sit down, shut up and create.

And do it for yourself, not for MM's approval or that of the thousands of bomb survival playing teenage brats. Hearts, plays and picks do not put food on your table, make you any friends or give you any status outside of this game (which is an illusion of importance, like a schoolyard). All of us will eventually abandon this hobby and some of us wil realize: "What was I thinking taking this game so serious?".

http://twitter.com/#!/antikris77/status/100927446563557376

To anyone who thinks there is nothing left in this game: there may be nothing left in you. This community, however, has only just started to scratch the surface of what can be done. And anyone who believes that as well I want to make an appeal to: do not associate yourself with the negative forces in the community, the naysayers, the haters or the downers. Surround yourself with people who support you and who you can support. Give and be given to. And take all the time you think you need; worst case scenario: the old community is gone and we can start anew.		2011-08-10 12:54:00

Author:
Antikris
Posts: 1340

Yeah if we are lucky,and don't give up...
sooner or later we'll out last the COD-Kids, Fake-Emos and some of the Trolls..
when they start to get bored and move on to darken other people's games~
even if we lose some good people along the way... hopefully the community will start to get little more fun maybe...
at least until LBP for PS4 is out and all them people come back~ xD		2011-08-10 13:13:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

Yeah if we are lucky,and don't give up...
sooner or later we'll out last the Trolls..


You will never outlast me!!!		2011-08-10 13:27:00

Author:
poorjack
Posts: 1806

even i knew that trolls,kids,and other peeps would be moving on from lbp.
just wait till christmas...then we're good.		2011-08-10 13:59:00

Author:
majormel84
Posts: 398

Is it really THAT hard to MM pick though? I mean seriously, they had the same picks up for like 2 months now; this is absolutely ridiculous! In a way they are abandoning the community if they cant do something as simple as updating MM picks. I mean sure, we get new DLC-- thats cool, but that only shows a small margin of support for the game and not the diminishing community of LBP2. The cool pages are garbage, MM picks havent been updated and its really hard and tedious to search for good levels. MM picks are the most looked at levels on LittleBigPlanet 1 and 2, and even new creators like me always wondered if one day our levels would be graced with the honor of MM picks.

MM picks are a large part of LBP, whether we like it or not. And the fact that MM cant even update at least a month of their favorite stages--ONE LEVEL, seriously?. I mean common, they must not even be looking at levels at all! Or atleast, MM isnt looking at the community as much as they should be. They are responsible for forming this community, and the least they can do is support it by MM picking.

Sure, this week we get to run around a Buzz lightyear and Woody, but DLC is just DLC. LittleBigPlanet is driven by its User Created Content, and if MM isnt even looking at that content--after like what, 6 months of release? That doesnt look well for the future of LBP2. People will start leaving because there just arent enough cool levels to play, and good creators will stop creating because their levels are not getting the attention they deserve.

In a way i can see where Thi is coming from, and i suppose noone else would truly understand unless you have invested 5 or so months into one stage, an RPG at that--one project with the sole dream of it becoming popular; theres nothing wrong with wanting that. I believe that thats one of the things that create or encourage innovation in gaming in the first place.

Without MM picks, the community will die imo.		2011-08-10 15:12:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877

^From what I understand only about 3 MM guys do MM picks.
and they all been away for different reasons for the past 2 months.
*mew		2011-08-10 15:16:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

Welll i guess Spaff and Tom been too busy or taken a break or something they didn't touch LBP2 all this time and they are the one who picks the most

Also cool pages, yes there some crap levels but there also good levels can be find there, not enoth? go deeper to cool pages, because there ton of good levels that need a boost to get higher, lot of good levels stuck on 2nd and 3rd page of cool pages 		2011-08-10 15:25:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

OMG i think MM just read my post because we got new MM picks! lol jk, but yea i played a a few good levels on the cool pages--but MM picks usually are always good levels. So im glad they started picking again.2011-08-10 15:37:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877

OMG i think MM just read my post because we got new MM picks! lol jk, but yea i played a a few good levels on the cool pages--but MM picks usually are always good levels. So im glad they started picking again.

Yaay new MM picks~
see? they were just busy~

Also My friend Luos is gonna be happy to see his level got MM picked 		2011-08-10 15:43:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

i suppose noone else would truly understand unless you have invested 5 or so months into one stage, an RPG at that--one project with the sole dream of it becoming popular; theres nothing wrong with wanting that. I believe that thats one of the things that create or encourage innovation in gaming in the first place. Without MM picks, the community will die imo.

So far I have investe that time into one of my own levels and what I understand is that you are taking one hell of a risk to get butthurt if you did it to gain popularity. There are less timeconsuming concepts to get a MM Pick with. So, if you decide to go the long route, you better have an alternative reason to do it. Don't take my word for it; just read back some of the threads here where people almost claim they are entitled the hearts, plays and picks for the effort they put in.

If this desire for popularity is all that drives a community then it is already doomed.

This community doesn't need MM Picks to survive. It needs common sense, modesty, decency, courtesy and a thicker skin. All generally considered adult characteristics. This community needs to grow up.		2011-08-10 16:04:00

Author:
Antikris
Posts: 1340

So far I have investe that time into one of my own levels and what I understand is that you are taking one hell of a risk to get butthurt if you did it to gain popularity. There are less timeconsuming concepts to get a MM Pick with. So, if you decide to go the long route, you better have an alternative reason to do it. Don't take my word for it; just read back some of the threads here where people almost claim they are entitled the hearts, plays and picks for the effort they put in.

If this desire for popularity is all that drives a community then it is already doomed.

This community doesn't need MM Picks to survive. It needs common sense, modesty, decency, courtesy and a thicker skin. All generally considered adult characteristics. This community needs to grow up.

I was referring to similarity to the gaming business in general; not anyone specific or the LBP community. If i created only for popularity, i would not have chosen a turnbased rpg in a game largely populated by platformers; im saying theres nothing wrong with wanting your level to get popular, especially after invested that much time into it--and if that mindset does motivate creators to produce better levels in LBP2, then whats wrong with that? Theres no wrong reason for creating. Additionally, asking for more adult characteristics from a community that is largely populated by adolescence is pretty idealistic and very unrealistic.

Its not what MM picks are; its more about what they represent. A vast majority of the community felt that MM left LBP because they were no longer MM picking; 2 months is still a very long time. Its morale support or whatever you want to call it and without that, the community will die--happened to tons of games already; If the developers stop showing support or interest in the community, it will diminish and thats what i was implying. Of course, now with the MM picks back up, theres really no point to this argument or thread anymore.

So...yea im talking too much, cheers MM picks are back! 		2011-08-10 17:10:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877

If i created only for popularity, i would not have chosen a turnbased rpg in a game largely populated by platformers.

Exactly my point. It would be foolish. Yet, I see evidence all around me of the wrong mindset.


im saying theres nothing wrong with wanting your level to get popular, especially after invested that much time into it--and if that mindset does motivate creators to produce better levels in LBP2, then whats wrong with that?

Getting plays on it is a nice bonus. Wanting plays so badly that one grows bitter and gives up creating altogether, not so much. I want my level to be playable and enjoyable by others, sure, and popularity can underline my success in reaching that goal. But I don't need it as proof of anything, last of all self-worth.


Theres no wrong reason for creating.

I will never discourage someone from creating. I just hope they won't disappoint themselves.


Additionally, asking for more adult characteristics from a community that is largely populated by adolescence is pretty idealistic and very unrealistic.

I took a risk with this remark, the risk of being taken literally. I have seen grownups act like spoiled 5 year olds and teens act like they have walked the earth for decades. What is inevitable is that this the size of this community will decline rapidly after the kid demographic finds another toy. Who will remain will depend largely on the learnings of the dedicated few.


Its not what MM picks are; its more about what they represent. A vast majority of the community felt that MM left LBP because they were no longer MM picking; 2 months is still a very long time. Its morale support or whatever you want to call it and without that, the community will die--happened to tons of games already; If the developers stop showing support or interest in the community, it will diminish and thats what i was implying. Of course, now with the MM picks back up, theres really no point to this argument or thread anymore.

I hope that MM Picks are not the only MM effort that people see as evidence for community support. We have been having plenty of updates (and there will be another big one soon) and (free) DLC, MM turning up at grassroots events and their presence on forums like these. As explained before in the thread, it is the summer season, MM employees are also taking a break. I think this general feeling of impending dread that some here display is a self-fulfilling prophecy fueled by pessimism.

Picks were never a contest with set rules or deadlines. It is exactly what the name implies: whenever MM feels like it, they pick a level to spotlight. We may not see a pick for months, we may see it happen three weeks in a row. We don't know what type of stuff MM is looking for either, so if one is hell bend on "winning" one better join a community contest, like the one on LBPC.

Congratulations on the pick, Luos.		2011-08-10 18:11:00

Author:
Antikris
Posts: 1340

If they really actually don't have the time to just check out a few levels a week then that shows no dedication towards LBP. I think a good idea would to hire some people from the community eg. The spotlight group... to do the mm picks for them, hell i would do it for free

I agree with thi766 though... Mm haven't shown much dedication with LBP2, not nearly as much as LBP1 and it does concern me...
I honestly don't think its that hard to pick the game up, pop it in a ps3, check out some cool levels and just pick a few. I know they are making a new game and all but come on guys... is it really THAT hard to do this routine only once a week?		2011-08-10 18:33:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457

BTW... There are new Mm picks.2011-08-10 19:25:00

Author:
poorjack
Posts: 1806

A cookie! Now my life is complete 2011-08-10 21:30:00

Author:
damaz10
Posts: 771

I don't know.. LBP2 does somehow feel "less alive" than LBP did.

It's difficult to put my finger on - I have no evidence to support my theory - it's just an over-all 'feeling' I get from LBP2.

Gotta agree with you there. Although, I think that when LBP Vita comes out, the community will spark back to life.		2011-08-10 22:01:00

Author:
Unknown User

If we talk about community being alive or not, thats 200% fault of vacation for current down2011-08-10 22:49:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

"What's happening with video games is the same thing that happens with anything new and interesting. At the beginning, everybody wants to see what it is. They gather around and check it out. But gradually, people start to lose interest.
"The people who don't lose interest become more and more involved...And the medium starts to be influenced by only those people. It becomes something exclusive to the people who've stuck with it for a long time. And when the people who were interested in it at first look back at it, it's no longer the thing that interested them."
? Shigeru Miyamoto		2011-08-11 06:09:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

"What's happening with video games is the same thing that happens with anything new and interesting. At the beginning, everybody wants to see what it is. They gather around and check it out. But gradually, people start to lose interest.
"The people who don't lose interest become more and more involved...And the medium starts to be influenced by only those people. It becomes something exclusive to the people who've stuck with it for a long time. And when the people who were interested in it at first look back at it, it's no longer the thing that interested them."
? Shigeru Miyamoto

i love you now.		2011-08-11 06:12:00

Author:
majormel84
Posts: 398

I agree with thi766 though... Mm haven't shown much dedication with LBP2, not nearly as much as LBP1 and it does concern me...

For LBP1 they didn't spotlight any levels except a few at the start, for LBP2 they've kept up the Mm picks so far, except for a few gaps. So, how do you draw that conclusion from these facts? 		2011-08-11 11:15:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284

Guys, the MM Picks were literally updated today (with Island of Beh'Ta and LittleBigRussia). They can't have ditched it if they're still there. 2011-08-11 11:21:00

Author:
Vector-Espio-Fan
Posts: 119

yes, i believe they were on vacation, i think they deserved it... do you? 2011-08-11 11:22:00

Author:
dragonights
Posts: 209

For LBP1 they didn't spotlight any levels except a few at the start, for LBP2 they've kept up the Mm picks so far, except for a few gaps. So, how do you draw that conclusion from these facts?

Well now im suddenly seeing a bunch of Mm picks... But what i mean is with dlc packs and all that.		2011-08-11 13:27:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457

... But what i mean is with dlc packs and all that.

I say ridiculously impatient.

LBP2 has been out almost 7 months? Toy Story was last week.. and a new freebie costume this week. Move pack on the way with some amazing additions. What the heck do you want? New DLC every 3 seconds or something? I sometimes think even that would not be enough. It's like some of you need an Mm DLC pacifier to keep you calm or maybe an Mm cozy blanket?

Just go build something amazing and not worry about new stuff. Sorry, but this thread is really really silly.		2011-08-11 13:38:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

What the heck do you want? New DLC every 3 seconds or something?

...Sure 		2011-08-11 13:40:00

Author:
poorjack
Posts: 1806

I say ridiculously impatient.

LBP2 has been out almost 7 months? Toy Story was last week.. and a new freebie costume this week. Move pack on the way with some amazing additions. What the heck do you want? New DLC every 3 seconds or something? I sometimes think even that would not be enough. It's like some of you need an Mm DLC pacifier to keep you calm or maybe an Mm cozy blanket?

Just go build something amazing and not worry about new stuff. Sorry, but this thread is really really silly.

Ok! ok, ill shut up lol your right.		2011-08-11 14:08:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457

Aww.. so my most awesome Jak & Daxter series will never be played my a Molecule!!??? I have no will to continue, my life is over... cool pages are back to the back clutter... waaaaahhhhhh!!!!!2011-08-11 18:18:00

Author:
damaz10
Posts: 771

LittleBigPlanet 2 isn't even close to dying. Mm is contesntly doing matinence, add on designs and updates. I've heard that they're working on LBP Vita. MAybe that's why you think is dying. IF you wanna keep up to date with LittleBigPlanet just go the Mm website or look at the news in LBP/LBP2! It's easy-peasy!2011-08-11 18:45:00

Author:
Unknown User

I've heard that they're working on LBP Vita.!

MM are not the ones who are making it~		2011-08-11 19:09:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

I say ridiculously impatient.

LBP2 has been out almost 7 months? Toy Story was last week.. and a new freebie costume this week. Move pack on the way with some amazing additions. What the heck do you want? New DLC every 3 seconds or something? I sometimes think even that would not be enough. It's like some of you need an Mm DLC pacifier to keep you calm or maybe an Mm cozy blanket?

Just go build something amazing and not worry about new stuff. Sorry, but this thread is really really silly.

I'd be fairly content with level links working properly and local cameras working.		2011-08-11 19:28:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230

Camera are fixed, i dont know what they waiting for considering they already updated store ui2011-08-11 19:46:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

I don't think the community of this game is as bad as some might think. If any other game kept as many unchecked glitches as LBP2 and remained in a "crisis" like this for so long, it'd be dead already. The community is the thing keeping LBP2 alive. If LBP doesn't come to us, we'll come to LBP.2011-08-11 21:04:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452

This may be an ignorant assumption but I would think a majority of the hardcore fans of LBP2 are creators, and several hard core creators are usually creating and not playing. As for the players though... Tons of players probably want to get high scores and since scores have been off forever, I'm sure tons of them have left. When scores are fixed and since Mm picks are back I'm sure we will have the same fanbase. The new level pack, costumes and eventual additional instuments an move pack makes it hard to believe the game really is dying, but the community isn't really getting better. Thats not really Mm's fault though.2011-08-12 00:09:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548

UPDATE... More Mm picks today2011-08-12 00:49:00

Author:
poorjack
Posts: 1806

mm are not the ones who are making it~
Noooooo!!!

Oh wait, I'm not buying the Vita.

*whew*		2011-08-13 04:17:00

Author:
49er Nation
Posts: 429

This community has only just started to scratch the surface of what can be done. And anyone who believes that as well I want to make an appeal to: do not associate yourself with the negative forces in the community, the naysayers, the haters or the downers. Surround yourself with people who support you and who you can support. Give and be given to. And take all the time you think you need; worst case scenario: the old community is gone and we can start anew.

Best. LBP statement. Ever!

Round of applause for Antikris, please...		2011-08-13 18:29:00

Author:
Protoraptor
Posts: 960

Hold on, hold on... This was started by Thi766 and he was upset about not having Mm pick.. Yet he has over 8,000 hearts and over 16,000 plays! Thats more than several Mm picks! How can you complain about anything! XD Levels look great though. I'm about to check them out.2011-08-13 21:19:00

Author:
Dortr
Posts: 548

I see what you mean. Although, I seriously doubt Mm would leave us comminity members to rot. There are so many potential creators out there and i think Mm knows that. Besides, without Mm I don't think the LBP comminity would die. (To be honest, I probably would die without DLC and Mm picks. ) I wouldn't worry too much. Just have fun, and enjoy LBP for what its is. 2011-08-22 05:14:00

Author:
Unknown User

Most of the Original Post was a repetitive call for help and stuff that everyone already knows. They do have a life, a̶n̶d̶ ̶e̶a̶c̶h̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶m̶i̶l̶l̶i̶o̶n̶a̶i̶r̶e̶ and they have not quit. 20% of LittleBIGPlanet™ players must treat the game like their best friend, where if the community is gone, you're d̶e̶a̶d̶ gone. All these "sentimental" levels as if you were going to war, a loved one passed away. The thing is, you don't make a level when a loved one passes away, but you make a level when C̶o̶m̶p̶h̶e̶r̶m̶c̶ your w̶o̶r̶s̶t̶ best friend quits.

My video to conclude this post:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs

All joking aside. Please keep your thoughts to yourself.*

P.S. LBP™2 is a game. It can't die, sorry to spoil that. But if it did, you could post a level for it(!!1!!one!!11!!eleven!!).
* No, I do not desperately wish to become a C̶o̶m̶p̶h̶e̶r̶m̶c̶ moderator as this person wishes for an Mm Pick.† However, if I am chosen, my actions will not be the same and I will use more constructive constructive criticism. This is constructive criticism, what I have said, but it isn't as constructive as construction paper.
† I see that you have displayed yourself male. Males are not persons who tend to like the colour pink. Mm and Mm Pick Ribbons are pink.		2011-08-25 22:47:00

Author:
Cronos Dage
Posts: 396

No offense, but the main problem is people advertizeing on story levels and level copys. I rarely check the cool levels page 1 due to spam levels. But if you think MM abondoned LBP 2, you'd be wrong. IF you look at the release date of the DLC you'd see that it is about a month or two apart PER pack. Consdir it the same with MM picks. Sure they don't update often, but when they do, it is usually with 5 or 6 levels at a time. I guess what I'm saying is don't judge the comunity by playiong with yourself. Thats not what it is ment for.2011-08-26 01:16:00

Author:
Undarivik
Posts: 442

Is this because you didn't get mm pick? Share the your levels on the level showcase and hopefully you'll get constructive feedback. Who cares if your level don't get Mm pick? Your having fun creating so what do you need more?

I personally think your saying ''Mm left us'' because they didn't mm pick you level.
I also remember seeing on your profile description: ''I want Mm pick or i'll kill myself....Lol joking''
Something similar to that, levels that deserve mm pick are levels that weren't made to get mm pick but simply for fun.

I played your RPG and yea it's great and it probably deserve mm pick but after seeing this...		2011-08-26 01:40:00

Author:
Sport_dude
Posts: 622

Is this because you didn't get mm pick? Share the your levels on the level showcase and hopefully you'll get constructive feedback. Who cares if your level don't get Mm pick? Your having fun creating so what do you need more?

I personally think your saying ''Mm left us'' because they didn't mm pick you level.
I also remember seeing on your profile description: ''I want Mm pick or i'll kill myself....Lol joking''
Something similar to that, levels that deserve mm pick are levels that weren't made to get mm pick but simply for fun.

I played your RPG and yea it's great and it probably deserve mm pick but after seeing this...

... Seriously? The mere fact that he makes a topic saying that MM isn't supporting their own game should be irrelevant merely because he made a level that should have been MM picked... when the point of the topic is that they haven't been MM picking enough? Just because he has a good level, he can't complain about no levels being picked? Despite him saying that it is not the case, and there being a larger point beyond it? Are you ALWAYS this stupid, or was this just a bad day? >_>

Sigh. It's **** like this that makes me glad I canceled Chains of Time when I Hopefully I'll be able to have it each the attention it deserves without a bunch of apologists saying that a game company should be excused from supporting their game like they promised when they ahve two "Community managers" who could easily do more then just pop up every few months.

Meh, screw it. Your post just killed my faith in humanity. Again.		2011-08-26 03:06:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Wow Rock.. why so hard on him and why call him names? I should ask the same of you... bad day?

Now to the thread in general.. and no, not at Rock.
The topic has been proven wrong many times by several members in this thread and quite unsure why it even keeps being bumped. Mm has not left us and not sure what they have to do to prove themselves to anyone.		2011-08-26 05:12:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Summary of Thread Title's Questions:
No, and no.		2011-08-26 05:20:00

Author:
49er Nation
Posts: 429

@RockSauron
If you want to prove something do it right and appropriate.		2011-08-26 07:52:00

Author:
Sport_dude
Posts: 622

I'm sorry but this topic is really stupid. Can someone please close it?2011-08-28 06:15:00

Author:
Julianotis1
Posts: 110

This topic gave me another great chance to t̶r̶o̶l̶l̶ prove good points in a way that makes people feel bad while being literate. But yes, please close it, I have earned my rep and now it is stupid.

This topic needs to be :20percentcooler:.		2011-08-30 16:25:00

Author:
Cronos Dage
Posts: 396

I also vote for this topic to be closed~
and any that may come later that's like it to be closed too. 		2011-08-30 16:34:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

I also vote for this topic to be closed~
and any that may come later that's like it to be closed too.

This being, after I prove good points in a way that makes people feel bad while being literate again in the incumbent threads.		2011-08-30 16:41:00

Author:
Cronos Dage
Posts: 396


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