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Hazbell's...Gone?

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:kz: I strolled through LBP.Me & found this (http://lbp.me/u/Hazbell). I, too, will no longer Create for the Community for as long as Hazbell is away.

EDIT: Hazbell seems to be back, but with blue eyes, instead. Hmm...

EDIT2: Thread will be Locked.
2011-07-24 22:57:00

Author:
IronSkullKid99
Posts: 515


Why won't YOU create?2011-07-24 23:00:00

Author:
Unknown User


Kinda sad to see the Haz guy profile comments be full of so much hate.
I mean i know he did some not cool things... but it's no reason for people to act like they do.
*mew
2011-07-24 23:05:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Why won't YOU create?
:kz: Because he's right, the Community is terrible & I really don't feel like making a level that took me 6 months to polish just to be played by such a Community.
2011-07-24 23:09:00

Author:
IronSkullKid99
Posts: 515


:kz: Because he's right, the Community is terrible & I really don't feel like making a level that took me 6 months to polish just to be played by such a Community.

But your forgetting~ All big Communities of any type are like this, online or offline.
Not everyone is a jerk in a Community. but a lot are, sad but true. just have to live on man.
and ignore all the bull that comes your way if possible.
2011-07-24 23:21:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I don't make things for other, I do it to show myself I can.2011-07-24 23:22:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


I don't make things for other, I do it to show myself I can.

Agreed.
i find it's best if you make something for yourself first.
then you can upload it for others to enjoy if you wish second.
but maybe that's just me. *mew
2011-07-24 23:37:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I don't make things for other, I do it to show myself I can.

Indeed. I create for myself as well, and if I think others might like it, I'll publish it. Quitting because you don't like how a handful of community members act is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of, but, to be honest, if you're willing to quit so easily over something as meaningless as that, then you probably weren't the type who would've been publishing anything I'll miss, so good riddance and good luck to you in whatever future endeavors you engage in.
2011-07-24 23:51:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


If people stop creating because their friends/favourite creators also stop, the community won't get any better.

Edit: Do you know why there has been such a growing in the number of trolls and haters? Because people actually let these idiots get to them. That's exactly what they want. They want to harass people to madness. Knowing that you're getting affected, that's just fuel to their futility.

People, if your profile gets overtaken by haters, just shut them out. Don't delete them, don't reply, just pretend you're back in LBP1 when a Profile page doesn't even exist. Trolls are sad creatures that just want attention, may it be positive or negative. Don't give them the satisfaction of aknowleding their existence and they'll just give up in time.
2011-07-25 00:13:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I heard that he made the overlord glitch and it's because of him if the scoreboard is not working anymore because Mm are trying to fix it. If it's true well i'm happy his gone and hope he never come back, if i'm wrong well it's sad to lose a good creator and the people offending him need to get outside find some friends.
( I hate dangerous glitcher )

Between i don't understand why that would make him quit. I think he only look at the bad comments because he got more positive comments then negative. He signor his supporter and that's sad.
Not everyone can like you and you have to live with it without acting like a child.

Example: If someone don't like i level that i have published, do you think i care? Unless he give constructive feedback which will help me make the level better i don't care much, i only make my stuff for me and the part of the community that enjoy it.
2011-07-25 00:54:00

Author:
Sport_dude
Posts: 622


Just because Haz found a glitch and let people know how to do it.
don't mean it makes it OK to hate him for it.
Going around hating people even if they did something little wrong,
Is not cool. People should not be so negative.
2011-07-25 01:01:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Yea but didn't that glitch destroy the scoreboard and stoped us from enjoying something that made us buy the game? When i bought lbp it was of course for creating, but some people don't create and only play community levels and try to get the n1 score on the scoreboard. What if they buy lbp2 and they found out the scoreboard isn't working and it's because of someone called Hazbell, of course they will hate him and they have the right to hate him because the reason is good enought2011-07-25 01:16:00

Author:
Sport_dude
Posts: 622


Just because Haz found a glitch and let people know how to do it.
don't mean it makes it OK to hate him for it.
Going around hating people even if they did something little wrong,
Is not cool. People should not be so negative.

While I agree about the negativity thing, you left out the part where he went and abused the glitch for the number 1 spot on multiple scoreboards. That, in turn, led to all scoreboards being shut down. That effected the entire LBP community. Had he done the right thing and not abused it, he might not be receiving so much flak.

Yes, he later worked with MM and reported the issue, but only after abusing the glitch. I wouldn't be surprised if he were facing an action from Sony that would brick his PS3 and prevent him from logging on to the PSN due to the havoc he wrought.

I don't condone the negative comments on his profile/levels/whatever but I'm not surprised (and neither should he be) that it happened. It is what it is, and I even here the overlord glitch is alive and well, which means this bad ride ain't over yet.
2011-07-25 01:47:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Yea but didn't that glitch destroy the scoreboard and stoped us from enjoying something that made us buy the game? When i bought lbp it was of course for creating, but some people don't create and only play community levels and try to get the n1 score on the scoreboard. What if they buy lbp2 and they found out the scoreboard isn't working and it's because of someone called Hazbell, of course they will hate him and they have the right to hate him because the reason is good enought

He didn't break the scoreboard, Mm took it down to stop others from getting an absurdly high score with the glitch. Hazbell also made a level with a few objects to stop people from using the glitch in people's levels.

There's really no reason to be mad at him about that as he helped the community when he found the glitch out.
2011-07-25 01:49:00

Author:
Retro
Posts: 104


There's really no reason to be mad at him about that as he helped the community when he found the glitch out.

He didn't help anyone he only "helped" after letting it loose. He should have helped by reporting it when he found it.
2011-07-25 01:53:00

Author:
Zero10100
Posts: 385


He didn't break the scoreboard, Mm took it down to stop others from getting an absurdly high score with the glitch. Hazbell also made a level with a few objects to stop people from using the glitch in people's levels.

There's really no reason to be mad at him about that as he helped the community when he found the glitch out.

He created (http://lbp.me/v/1n1vh8) the glitch. He abused (http://lbp.me/v/zwhr7g/scores) the glitch. How does removing the scoreboards for over a month help the community?

Again: I'm not condoning the negative comments on his profile, but I don't think you can pretend that the guy is innocent. If anything, he's a scapegoat for people who are upset about the scoreboards being down. Most of that is due to the way he chose to deal with the glitch after discovering it.
2011-07-25 02:00:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Should I make a series called 'the_negativitron stol mah babby'?

And he's right about the community.
2011-07-25 02:12:00

Author:
RJA00000
Posts: 387


Yea i think he kinda deserve it, a ''good'' person would have reported it right away when he first found it and specially NOT abuse of it, he ruined the scoreboard. like schm0 said, idk if the comment on his profile are that bad but i won't be surprised after what he done.

i think the same way with schm0 on this situation.
2011-07-25 02:21:00

Author:
Sport_dude
Posts: 622


RJA00000 said -
Should I make a series called 'the_negativitron stol mah babby'? How random.
Anyways, Iron, don't stop creating. You make epic things and I don't wanna see you quit
2011-07-25 02:25:00

Author:
Unknown User


RJA00000 said - How random.
Anyways, Iron, don't stop creating. You make epic things and I don't wanna see you quit
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Ehh...not random.

I said that because someone name The_Negativitron made levels about Haz stealing his baby.

Gotta agree with schm on this though.
2011-07-25 02:40:00

Author:
RJA00000
Posts: 387


Oh. How clever, RJA00000
I just hope the community gets at least a little better
2011-07-25 02:46:00

Author:
Unknown User


SARCASM! Anyway, I doubt anything will get better. All communities are like this, TBH. Always gotta be teh newbz. 2011-07-25 02:59:00

Author:
RJA00000
Posts: 387


Kinda sad to see him go. I was pretty fond of him, despite his constant bragging and some wrong things he did like making LBP2 even more of a wreck.

However, I just hate when people leave because of the community. Hazbell needs to man up and accept the community the way it is, because life has haters and haters are going to hate. As cliche as I sound, it's the truth.

Funny...people called him a "Hero" for partially destroying part of the game...marvelous...

As for you Iron, you better not stop creating. I do hate to pity you know.
2011-07-25 03:17:00

Author:
Shadowstarkirby
Posts: 205


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qLZZGprcVk&feature=player_detailpage

He evidently used this machine to alter the scoreboards, among other things.
2011-07-25 03:33:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qLZZGprcVk&feature=player_detailpage

He evidently used this machine to alter the scoreboards, among other things.

Yes and now everyone has it and is doing a lot more.
2011-07-25 03:37:00

Author:
Zero10100
Posts: 385


Yeah I know he abused the glitch and like i was saying, that was very wrong of a thing to do.
but i feel like as always people are going over-bored with the hating, not that it surprises me any.
I just wish people could be little more calm about it. even if he did not show the glitch,
someone else would have sooner or later. and it all still happen. the game just needs fixed.
it's buggy... really buggy. people will find the bugs and glitches after a while...
some will do the right thing and report it. but some will sooner or later show them off to other people,
and problems like this will happen again and again. *mew
2011-07-25 03:39:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


The thing about it is, he realized what he did wrong and is sorry for it. You have a right to be mad, but eventually grudges have to end. That may not be now, but when the scoreboards are fixed it might be time to move on.2011-07-25 03:42:00

Author:
GameRoom
Posts: 200


I think Hazbell is leaving for a job. Or had an issue in his home.2011-07-25 03:43:00

Author:
StaticLinuxpro
Posts: 482


Yeah I know he abused the glitch and like i was saying, that was very wrong of a thing to do.
but i feel like as always people are going over-bored with the hating, not that it surprises me any.
I just wish people could be little more calm about it. even if he did not show the glitch,
someone else would have sooner or later. and it all still happen. the game just needs fixed.
it's buggy... really buggy. people will find the bugs and glitches after a while...
some will do the right thing and report it. but some will sooner or later show them off to other people,
and problems like this will happen again and again. *mew

You still don't understand do you? Hazbell had decision, raport this to MM quietly or make it public.... well he not just make it public he came but he come to story mode with Steph (which you also thing that shes haten too much) and make 4.000.000 toghether, then he start showing off how cool he is in breaking the game and make videos with other guys showing his awesome ship, then he meet up with Spaff make picture with him and post it everywhere releted to the glitch to show what he achived, glitch leaked because he start show it to everybody to make himself special

He was thinking that he is cool and everybody loves him for this showing off this glitch.... but sadly this glitch had destractive side-effects that he was 100% aware of, MM locked scores for protection which effected whole community and people got annoyed.

In total bilans few glitches got happy the rest suffered from it, now tell me do people if those people gonna come and hug him? No, defently they gonna hate him now he realize it and cry, and this is not first situation in community like that Steph also taken cool pages for herself and got hated, on difference is Steph didn't actually cared that shes hated. Now he got lesson and i hope hates wont get soft hearted of his cry and cute sad profile picture he made, so he can learn more

Fodawim also discovered destructive glitch but he didnt told anybody about it and got fixed, lvg_msg also knew about RFOM hole and got leaked by accedent, but he didnt tell anybody in the past i also keep few secrets, since im aware that they might be bad, they might ruin game (templery at least) and if something would happen i would be one who is blamed and hated. So Hazbell if you reading this, protip here: don't make public something that might hurt somebody, since defiantly they won't love you for that.

Acutally he might not care about hate too and just trolling
2011-07-25 04:23:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


^More like you did not read what I said very well did you? as you missed my point.

I know all about what he did and his story. Don’t take me for a fool man.
All your saying is people should hate if they want to and find reason to.
But I say while they do have a right to be mad/upset
But hating is wrong no matter what. Yes it’s easy to hate things and we all do it.
But it’s to Negative… life should not have to be so negative if you ask me.
Your thinking is so black or white. Your not getting it whatsoever.
The whole they should be hated thing because they did some not so cool things
Is a not nice way to think. Yes when someone does something wrong they should get in trouble.
But that’s it. The whole everyone lets hate them game is just sad.
i was not asking people to feel sorry for him. that would make no sense.
but they don't need to act like kids and go I hate you, you ruined our game!
hating anyone and playing the blame game won't fix anything.
*mew
2011-07-25 04:38:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Hate is bad, cool, but it won't change the fact that this world is not made out of hippies and fact that people have opinions on eachother. Consequence of this actions is that he got bad opinion in other people minds and now he should drink beer that he made and not cry. I really don't believe that guy who had got balls to break hi-scores and showoff liek that now is sad on options of other people, or else there something wrong with him or he is inmature. You sound like you don;'t understand that people have opinions on some people and they don't need to be good, again world is not made of hippies that will love you if you fart them in the face.2011-07-25 05:03:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Yes i know but people are acting like he haven't done anything and his some kinda hero like Shadowstarkirby said above me and that he doesn't deserve anything that's happening to him atm. I don't say he deserve to get flamed or whatever people are doing to him but he must accept it because he isn't innocent neither. He nearly destroyed a part of the game and i accepted it and still live with it! And he won't accept the fact that people post bad comments on his page?2011-07-25 05:04:00

Author:
Sport_dude
Posts: 622


.

Umm... Again you make it sound like I'm telling people to feel bad for him?
I'm not, I am saying people need to calm down and stop attacking/hating people so much,
as it won't fix anything. he is indeed paying for trouble he started already.
I also do find it odd he did not see this would come back and bite him in the butt.
but there's no point in keep wanting to attack him. it's not helping and makes whoever
is doing it look like a troll just as bad as the person they dislike in their own way.

I don't play LBP and come here to see/deal with Drama, Trolls, People trolling trolls.
Random hating, Emos, Whateverz. I Play LBP and come here to have fun and relax...
it's a hobby, not life or death. guess if that's true I should say away from topics like this...
But seems this is the main kind of things people like to talk about...
Ghah~ people and their drama. but sometimes i just can't leave something left unsaid
and ignore everything around me. Err whatever, I'm done in this topic~ *mew
2011-07-25 06:48:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


He didn't help anyone he only "helped" after letting it loose. He should have helped by reporting it when he found it.

He did.

What? More characters? I a OUTRAGED!
2011-07-25 09:49:00

Author:
Tecnoguy1
Posts: 206


Umm... Again you make it sound like I'm telling people to feel bad for him?
I'm not, I am saying people need to calm down and stop attacking/hating people so much,
as it won't fix anything. he is indeed paying for trouble he started already.
I also do find it odd he did not see this would come back and bite him in the butt.
but there's no point in keep wanting to attack him. it's not helping and makes whoever
is doing it look like a troll just as bad as the person they dislike in their own way.

I don't play LBP and come here to see/deal with Drama, Trolls, People trolling trolls.
Random hating, Emos, Whateverz. I Play LBP and come here to have fun and relax...
it's a hobby, not life or death. guess if that's true I should say away from topics like this...
But seems this is the main kind of things people like to talk about...
Ghah~ people and their drama. but sometimes i just can't leave something left unsaid
and ignore everything around me. Err whatever, I'm done in this topic~ *mew

But most of those hate is from kids and should not be take seriously, lbp community is simply emotional like that, fact somethimes is too emotional just give it time, making good levels should also change there mind
2011-07-25 15:37:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Is it wrong that people are still hating on him? Probably.

Does he bare responsibility for bringing this on himself through destructive and arrogant actions? Probably.

Either way, I have no intention of basing my gameplay/creating on whether Hazbell stays or goes.
2011-07-25 17:53:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230


Should I make a series called 'the_negativitron stol mah babby'?

And he's right about the community.

He is. The community sucks, but a good author refusing to create because of the lack of good authors is always a stupid thing to do. No matter the circumstances. So what if people are sending him hate messages? He should have thought about that when he created the overlord glitch.

Leaving the community because it's bad isn't the right way to go. You need to make the community a better place.
And you should be starting with the man in the mirror.
2011-07-25 18:15:00

Author:
Chdonga
Posts: 388


Oh hello, it's Hazbell.

Like the name on here? Aparently, finding a glitch on a video game which let's you bring create mode into play, is equally as awful as causing mass genocide of over 4 million people, aswell as trying to take control over Europe, and eventually the world.
Somebody did the comparision in that hater thread on here. It was funny, it's completly inaccurate, and it's somewhat racist. I am the NaziBell. LOL

Anyway, this was a stunt for something. Long story. I would never give up LBP though. I love it to much. Anyway, why did someone make a thread about it on here? I appreciate the gesture, so thank you. However, this site is awful. Full of hypocritcal children and adults who have nothing better to do than hate a 16 year old over a glitch which he found and did not create for the lulz.

And as I have gone over and over and over and over and over again, I said I was sorry for my 1 hour of stupidity. I sent in a detailed report to Mm soon after discovering the glitch.

I did not tell anyone how to do Overlord. I gave demonstrations of what it could do, but never passed on actually how to do it. JimmyJ75 figured it out himself and spread it round.

And the person who said "It's like murdering someone. You can't just do it, apologise and everything will be alright." it has NOTHING to do with muders. It's not even a real life situation. It's on a game. And game events can easily be undone. The reason it hasn't is because Overlord is still around. No point fixing it, if it can be started again.

But I was speaking the truth of the community. It is awful. the fact it is so awful was a motivation to get my own back on it. Was wrong I know, but i'm a stupid teen. We're all silly in our own ways lol.

Now please, drop this thing about Overlord. I also helped Mm with the 1.05 Overlord method.

Also reminds me; when I help Mm out, why do you accuse me of trying to get rid of a 'great' glitch? What do you exactly want me to do!? lol

But yeah, Communityis awful, I'm awful, though I'm trying to make mends, so enough with the hating. This fansite is hypcritcally awful.

Thank you,
Hazbell
2011-07-25 19:46:00

Author:
Unknown User


Also reminds me; when I help Mm out, why do you accuse me of trying to get rid of a 'great' glitch? What do you exactly want me to do!? lol

Warring opinions I guess. Some people like the glitch, others don't.
2011-07-25 19:57:00

Author:
Chdonga
Posts: 388


So, I'm wondering if the overlord glitch is still about, do Mm know about it and how it's being reproduced? Because last time I checked, they were announcing that it had been fixed.2011-07-25 20:07:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


It's been partly fixed, not there that key trick that allows to place danger tweaker on sackboy templary. Also theres RFOM hack which makes story levels in danger. This is why hiscores are still not open2011-07-25 20:40:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


It's been partly fixed, not there that key trick that allows to place danger tweaker on sackboy templary. Also theres RFOM hack which makes story levels in danger. This is why hiscores are still not open

What's the RFOM hack?
2011-07-25 21:27:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


Just wish this whole thing would go away already. Bring back the scoreboards.

Ban the cheaters and move on.
2011-07-26 00:17:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230


What's the RFOM hack?

http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/topics/rfom_hack_allows_to_play_1_00_version_online_which _means_story_mode_scores_can_be_effected_by_overlo rd_glitch
2011-07-26 03:20:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


So this guy screwed us over, huh?
Be that as it may, I really don't see the neccesity to have a discussion about it...

Let this be the last post of this thread, but then again, knowing the internet and this community it probably won't be.
Prove me wrong.
2011-07-26 04:04:00

Author:
Crazed Creator
Posts: 177


:kz: So be it. [MODS], please Lock this Thread.2011-07-26 05:00:00

Author:
IronSkullKid99
Posts: 515


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